1 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Mr garbutschaf teared down this wall. Either you're with us 2 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: or you were with the terrorists. If you got healthcare already, 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: then you can keep your plan. If you are satisfied 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: with Trump is not president of the United States, take 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: it to a bank. Together. We will make America great again. 6 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: You'll never sharender. It's what you've been waiting for all day. 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: The Buck Sexton Show joined the conversation called Buck Toll 8 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Free at eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight 9 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: four four nine hundred to eight to five the future 10 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: of talk radio buck Sexton. The Trump administration has been 11 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: accused I heard over the weekend of being vindictive and 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: mean spirited, and that seems horribly unfair. I think it 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: was horrible day for democracy. This attack on McCabe really 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: reminds me of something from a movie. It seems sort 15 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: of tragic and unfair on the surface. So it does 16 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: look vindictive. Should we not take it that way? It 17 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: feels vindictive just because it was the timing of it 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: which leads one to believe that this is authoritarian behavior 19 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: or the making of one. Welcome to the Buck section Show. Everybody. 20 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: Oh Man media was in a meltdown over the weekend 21 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: about that, weren't they? They're just also upset about McCabe 22 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: getting fired. There's so much to say here, folks. We're 23 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: gonna have some fun with this one. We're gonna really 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: air this one out, you know, so you can take 25 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: a moment, take a deep breath, stretch out, because we're 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: gonna lean into this. Oh my, here, let's let's start 27 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: with this. Trump didn't fire McCabe. Does that seem to 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,919 Speaker 1: matter to anybody here? Did do any of these folks 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: who were saying that, you know, oh my gosh, our 30 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: institutions are all gonna just collapse? The President United States 31 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: did not fire McCabe. In fact, President United States had 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: no direct involvement whatsoever in the firing of McCabe. McCabe 33 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: got fired because of an inspector General report from within 34 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: the FBID. Now that's very significant, folks, That really matters, 35 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: because I can tell you this, a federal bureaucracy is 36 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: going to protect its own until it can't, you know, 37 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: until they decide you have to be voted off the island. 38 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: They're usually gonna treat you like one of their own, 39 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: and they're gonna protect you at the senior levels Oh no, no, 40 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. Let's not get this twisted. If 41 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: you're some average Joe Schmoe one of these places, they 42 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: may they may decide to feed your career into the 43 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: wood chipper, so to speak. They may decide that you're 44 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: you're done because it will send a message to the rest. 45 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: But at the McCabe level, been there for decades, close 46 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: with everybody, close with Comey. This was Comey's deputy, this 47 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: was Comey's right hand man, Mr. Six ft nine, sanctimony himself, 48 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: James Comey. He of tweeting out Placid Lake scenes while 49 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: writing anti Trump screeds fame. Uh, this is what we 50 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: see here that the Inspector General was the one that 51 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: decided that McCabe has be fired. Now, I don't want 52 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: to go too far down the road of what McCabe 53 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: did was so terrible. He leaked this inform, He leaked 54 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: information and lined about it. That's all we know right now. 55 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that if we were to see, if we 56 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: were to see what was contained in the report in total, 57 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: we would we would then understand how does the FBI 58 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: would get rid of one of its own in this way? 59 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: But oh my gosh, the media were in a tizzy 60 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: over the weekend based on this. He got fired late 61 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Friday night. You'll you'll call I told you here on 62 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: the show. I thought he was gonna fire. We were 63 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: on firing Watch. I even said on Outnumbered on Friday, 64 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna get fired, and he did. So, 65 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, always bet on Buck. That's what I like 66 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: to say, Always bet on Buck. But you know, it 67 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: doesn't really change all that much here until we get 68 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: more information, you know, And do I think that this 69 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: was the right thing. Sure, it makes sense to me. 70 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Oh oh, one more thing before we bust out the 71 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: world's smallest violin for Andy McCabe. Here, let's understand a 72 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: few things. He's somebody who no doubt jammed up, which 73 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: is the law enforcement term of art for blanking somebody 74 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: over jammed up. Uh, tons of people, for lying to 75 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: probably him as an FBI agent in his day, as 76 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: well as lots of other FBI folks, and for just that. 77 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: That's really one of the one of the favorite charges 78 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: of the federal government is lying to the federal government. 79 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: They love to get you on that one. I'm not 80 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: even saying lying under oath in a court proceeding. I'm 81 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: just saying, lying to a federal agent. Love that one, 82 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: and it's actually something I think should be revisited in 83 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: the context of if you didn't actually do anything wrong 84 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: but lied about something unimportant, should you really should you 85 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: get the Flynn treatment? Oh yeah, that's right. Flynn had 86 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: to sell his house to pay his legal bills. General Flynn, 87 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: he served decades in the military. Does anyone anyone crying 88 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: for him in the media. No, all, they think that's 89 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: totally fair. They are exposing themselves. We are seeing how 90 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: deep the deep state really goes. I would note that 91 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,559 Speaker 1: some polls came out of the weekend. I think actually 92 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: CNN might even published one of them about how most 93 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: people believe there is a deep state. So so we 94 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: can have academics, right, Snyde pieces about how the deep 95 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: state in Turkey is a very specific Yet we got 96 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: an American deep state here, folks, And we already know 97 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: who some of the compos of this crime family are. Camy, Brannon. Ah, 98 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: we'll get to Brandon in a second. Don't think he's 99 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: gonna escape this one. McCabe call me Brennan McCabe, Sally Yates, 100 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: we're just getting started. There's a whole squad of folks 101 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: that are click clapper, Oh gosh, be here all day. 102 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: You know, struck you can get some of the lower 103 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: level ones to bruce or there was a clear anti 104 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: Trump effort at the top level of d J. It's 105 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: being more exposed with all these revelations. But I just 106 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: on the plane the smallest violent for McCabe ever. Understand, 107 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: he's sent people to prison. We're lying him many times. 108 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: He's not getting sent to prison. Other people lie and 109 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: lose their freedom. He's just getting his pension delayed, which 110 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: brings me to the oh, pull over the we ambulance 111 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: retiring at fifty full bench and benefits. That's a good deal. 112 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: That is a good deal. He's not losing his entire 113 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: pension everyone. That's not true. He might have to wait now, 114 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: he might not qualify under the current civil service rules 115 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: until he's I don't know, uh, sixty two or sixty 116 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, like normal person retirement age. He might have 117 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: to do that. Oh no, but you're already seeing a 118 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: lot of Democrats come out and say that they are 119 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: willing to hire him. That's how clearly political this is. 120 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: Right from the beginning. That's how obvious it is that 121 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: this is just my team, their team. McCabe is anti Trump. 122 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: Therefore he is embraced by the left. So the Democrats, 123 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: what do I tell you? Time and again here on 124 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: the show. The left takes care of its own. The 125 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: Democrats make sure that anyone who does bad deeds for 126 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: them has good things come with it. That sends a 127 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: very important message, right you, some of you are a 128 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones fans. I'm sure you know. Lanisters always 129 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: pay their debts. The left always takes care of its own. 130 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: You get book deals, you get media contracts, You get 131 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, chancellorships at universities, board seats on companies. James Comey, 132 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: who is going to write the most sanctimonious giant pile 133 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: of Tyrannosaurus Pooh? I think imaginable is now the number 134 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: one selling author on Amazon in pre sales. Why because 135 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: everyone assumes that he's gonna, you know, slam Trump. There's 136 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: gonna be more of what we already know. But getting 137 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: getting really excited for you know, the the early comy 138 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: years reas a hall monitors like do you have a 139 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: pass attention for you? Sanctimonious people don't change. They if 140 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: they're if they're that annoying, now, trust me, they're annoying 141 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: in high school too. And I think Comy is he? 142 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: Is he a New Yorker? I forget is he? I 143 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: forget where he's Far's in New York or Philly? I 144 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm putting him on 145 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: your doorstep. Quinn, he's a Philly producer. Mike is looking 146 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: at me all a k A. Quinn. He's a Philly 147 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: guy if I ever saw one. I'm thinking there's some 148 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: filling with Comy. And I'm just trying to make him 149 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: not a New York ais. I'm gonna feel bad about 150 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: it anyway. So you get this, You get this, uh 151 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: sense that something terrible has happened because McCay has been fired. 152 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: Big deal. He's gonna get speaking, big deal, gonna get 153 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: a big book deal. And what oh he's call me. 154 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: He's a Catholic school boy from New York like me. 155 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: I thought, so, oh, dude, some of the worst, some 156 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: of the best, but some of the worst are from 157 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: my same my same general you know, pumpkin Patch, so 158 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: to speak. Right, we're the same me and Comey and 159 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: uh you know, you know who else Fitzgerald, the special 160 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case. Whatever, he not only 161 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: went to my high school, went to my college. I 162 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: think he's he's also he's also a New York Catholic schoolboy, 163 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: and he's a super hall monitor and a and a 164 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: head hunter at the d o J. Who else falls 165 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: in that, But we got some of the best to 166 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 1: Scalia actually went to my rival high school here in 167 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: New York City, Xavier. We all like to say he 168 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: didn't get into regions, but then people blew us, so 169 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: we try not to say that too much publicly. Um, 170 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: but may he rest in peace. One of the great minds, 171 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: one of the great legal minds of of all time. 172 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: Uh So, comey McCabe. We've seen so much of it exposed, 173 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: but it gets worse, it gets worse. It's not just 174 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: at the d o J, in the FBI, where they 175 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: were clear senior officials appointees of the Obama administration, no 176 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: less President Obama in some cases very close to these 177 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: individuals who are obviously anti Trump and took actions against 178 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign. There's some other folks too who have 179 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: exposed themselves on social media recently. We will get in 180 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: to that, including a former director of my own agency. 181 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm throwing my my own, my pedigree, so to speak, 182 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: getting thrown to the bus. We got Catholic school guys 183 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: from New York City like comey being sanctimonious. Then we 184 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: got Brennan, former CIA director, who went on a do 185 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: we say tirade or tirade? Do we go both? People? 186 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: I feel like people go both the tirade? Right, I 187 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: say tirade, Some people say tarade, I think, or maybe 188 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: it's a sharade. I don't know, sharade, sharade, tomato tomato. 189 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: What did Brennan say? And what does it tell us 190 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: about this whole Russia collusion fiasco? And oh, by the way, 191 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: Vladimir Puttin on one reelection, we got that, We got 192 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: a lot more. We're gonna talk about China's theft of 193 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: intellectual property from the US. Here's what he's there. You go, 194 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: thank you perfectly. Time dropped. We got China talking about that. 195 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: We're also gonna get into some discussion of trade and 196 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: how all this trade war tours or you know, speaking 197 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: on home monitors some of my conservative buddies on this 198 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: or throwing a fit. Uh, it doesn't add up, folks, 199 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: you look at the numbers, it's not that big a deal, 200 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: no matter how you slice it. It's literally not that 201 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: big a deal aluminum steel. I'll give you the details 202 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: in the numbers. When somebody says it's just gonna start 203 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: a trade war and be like, yeah, this is a 204 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: tempest in a teapot, not what people are pretending it is. 205 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: We will also talk a bit about this Cambridge Analytica situation. Um, 206 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: I can't give you too much of a preview next 207 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: running the next break, but just all of a sudden, 208 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: now Facebook and Data are coming under all this scrutiny 209 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: when well, let's just say that this is this is 210 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: very very much a partisan narrative that is emerging about 211 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: all this. Keep in mind that it wasn't long ago 212 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: that the Obama administration was all about minding everything they 213 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: could online. Obama's digital team was the best in the business. 214 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: They're so amazing, the the digital whiz kids that he's 215 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: got and all that stuff. Now it's like, oh my gosh, 216 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: they're looking at social media profile and information and making 217 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: political determinations about it. Good heavens, yeah, of course they are. 218 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: This is this is a surprise there should be a 219 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: surprise to no one. But because Trump did it, you 220 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: know it must be bad. That's the idea. Because Trump's 221 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: team did it, Now it's evil. Now all of a sudden, 222 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: the incredible surveillance machine that is the Internet is scary. 223 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: Wasn't scary for eight years of Obama, who, by the way, 224 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: I actually did spy on journalists and do all kinds 225 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: of super shady bad stuff. But you know, it wasn't 226 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: a problem that now it's a problem. It's almost like 227 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: journalists were all at sleepaway camp for eight years and 228 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: now they've now they've come back and they actually want 229 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: to do their jobs. In fact, that's exactly what it's like. Um, 230 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna head a quick break eight four 231 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: eight to five eight four f buck, we have much 232 00:13:51,320 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: more show. Stay with You don't get to decide when 233 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: to tell the truth and when not to. I'm gonna 234 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,119 Speaker 1: withhold judgment until Horowitz's report comes out because I don't 235 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: say what he found, just say, Harowitz is the inspector general. 236 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: Let's wait and see what he found. Let's wait and 237 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: see what that lack of candor was, and then we 238 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: could judge the fact pattern and the proportionality of the 239 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: penalty of his losing his pension. We can judge all 240 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: that once we understand exactly what he's alleged to a 241 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: vain but but make no mistake, the FBI is who 242 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: recommended that he be fired. It wasn't crazy House Republicans, 243 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: and it wasn't a Trump administration. It was his own 244 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: fellow bureau agents. The facts with regard to McCabe are 245 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: very important. They basically have said that McCabe leaked classified documents. 246 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: That's illegal, but then he also lied about leaking classified documents, 247 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: and so you know the fbire sticklers on this, and 248 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: they don't tolerate lying from their agents. And so if 249 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: all that's true, I see no way that he could 250 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: continue in his office, and that punishment is appropriate. Does 251 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: anyone have an argument against what was said there by 252 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: Trey Gaudy and then Rand Paul. You know, I think 253 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: those are two of them, two of the Republicans that 254 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: you can count on to to call bs when they 255 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: see it either way. You know, I think that Rampaul 256 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: is an honest and ethical guy. I don't think he's 257 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: always right, but I think he's honest and ethical. I 258 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: don't think that he is too clouded with partisanship to 259 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: see things for what they are. Um and I feel 260 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: the same way about Very Gaudy, although I don't know. 261 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: I think because Gouty's not run anymore, I start to 262 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: feel like he's he's lost his edge, or maybe I'm 263 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: just seeing it more. It seems to me like he's 264 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: a little too like, well, you know, i'd like the 265 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: New York Times right, nice things about me. Sometimes it's 266 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: very dangerous for Republicans. They write nice things about you 267 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: for a day and then they trash you, and your 268 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: own people think you're a sellout. You don't want to 269 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: go down that path. But I mentioned before we went 270 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: into the break that it's not just d Oh, It's 271 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: not just McCabe and Comy and all these other senior 272 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: FBI folks who are a problem. There's a lot more 273 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: when you look at this, including John Brennan, close confidante 274 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: of President Obama's and the former director of the Central 275 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: Intelligence Agents. And keep in mind, folks, that being the 276 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: director of the CIA, it's not like rising to be 277 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: the CEO of a company where like the best person 278 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: gets the job or somebody with a proven track record. 279 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: A lot of the time. These jobs, I'm just gonna 280 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: say it, go to somebody who the president likes and wants. 281 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: That person in the role was Leon Panetta, some intel genius. 282 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: No Obama liked him. He had some background. They put 283 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: him in these places, right, I mean any number And 284 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: there have been some really Panetta was actually okay as 285 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: directors go. I'm from what I'm told from people who 286 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: were there, and no, uh, there have been some really crap, 287 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: lousy CIA directors over the years. But Brennan was o 288 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: Amas Aids the director, and he was known to be 289 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: very chummy with the press and reputed to want to 290 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: get certain narratives out there into the media. And he 291 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: tweeted out in response to the McCabe firing the following. 292 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: This is a quote from the former CI director of 293 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: the obaministration. By the way, the same CI director who 294 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: was very much pushing the Russia collusion narrative with the 295 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: Trump campaign in full swing during the election. You know, 296 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: Brennan was one who was waiving the flags and screaming about, 297 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: oh look at all the Russia. You know, he was 298 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: the one, right, or one of a few. Now we 299 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: find out what he thinks of Trump and oh gosh, 300 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: you're not going to be surprised by this at all, 301 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: are you? Folks? Quote when the full this is in 302 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: response to President Trump directly on Twitter, this is blue 303 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: check warfare, blue check to blue check. When the full 304 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes 305 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: no own, you will take your rightful place as a 306 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: disgrace demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat 307 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America. America will 308 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: triumph over you. I ask you, my friends, at all honesty. 309 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: Does that not seem like a slightly unhinged thing for 310 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: a former CI director to write about the current commander 311 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: in chief? You will not destroy America. America will triumph 312 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: over you. So we only have a few options here. 313 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: Are the former CI director in Obama's buddy is losing 314 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: it or he thinks that Trump is a clear in 315 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: present danger of the United States. And if that were 316 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: the case, what would the former CI director have been 317 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: willing to do against Trump? While still director? He's holding 318 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: the line for America. Buck Sexton is tex laugh. I 319 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, at this point, it does feel 320 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: as if you know it's one you talked to one 321 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: set of people and they think the wheels are coming 322 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: off this administration, and you talked to another set and 323 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: it's exactly the presidency that they wanted. So but the 324 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, I don't know if our 325 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: institutions can handle what Trump is doing. We can't seem 326 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: to see if our institutions are going to survive the 327 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: emotional spasms of Twitter. The great line, what does that 328 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: say about our institutions? By the way, if if Trump's 329 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: Twitter account can bring them tumbling down, they're not very durable, 330 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: are they. Now that's also crazy because Trump's Twitter is 331 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: not going to bring anything telling down, which is when 332 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: when you look at what's being said some of the 333 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: narratives that have gained traction on the left, you know 334 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: that these anti Trump stories, they're almost like bedtime stories 335 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: now the Democrats tell each other so they can sleep 336 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: at night. They're just nonsensical. They don't add up their 337 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: self contradictory. Did you get Chuck Todd there saying, you know, 338 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: I just don't know if our institutions can just I 339 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: don't know if they can survive. Well, if an institution 340 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: like the FBI is going to survive the Inspector General 341 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: has to be able to look for misconduct and when 342 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: it finds it has to be able to punish it. Right, 343 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: So this is this is not the least bit surprising 344 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: from that respect. So I just look at this and 345 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: I say to myself, what are they even talking about 346 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: with this? It was an institution operating exactly as it 347 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: should that fired Andrew McCabe from his job at the FBI. 348 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: I would notice that what rand Paul said. I'm not 349 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: sure if that has been verified or not yet. I 350 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: think that he was my impression from what I've read, 351 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: and I'm admitting that I haven't read the IG report. 352 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: Nobody is talking about this has read the IG report yet. Um, 353 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: but we don't know if it was classified information or not. 354 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: That he it was classified information, then he has to 355 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: be fired. And also then there's the issue of why 356 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: why doesn't he have criminal charges? But if we're just 357 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: talking about even uh internal information given to the press 358 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: that he then lied about that, why would he not 359 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: get fired for that? It just doesn't it again, it 360 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: doesn't add up, but it does not make sense. But 361 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: they are completely as you know, in the tank and 362 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: devoted to doing everything they can to make the president 363 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: look bad, up to including embarrassing themselves. They will be embarrassed. 364 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: They will be embarrassed if and when we ever find 365 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: out exactly what the allegations were in that Inspector General report. 366 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: That much I can tell you because they just see, 367 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Oh someone was fired who was working against Trump. It 368 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: must be Trump's fault. That's not true. That's not the 369 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: way that this works. Are We got a bunch of calls, 370 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: so let's take some of them before we move on. 371 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: I want to get into some calls before we switch topics. 372 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: We'll start with Dean in Boston. What's up, Dean doing good? 373 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: Track by Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey, So I'll be quick. 374 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: So this is funny. I'm listening to our own Seth 375 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: Moulton from Massachusetts who says that he would hire this 376 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: guy for three days so he can reach his pension. 377 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: And I stiled, thinking, who retires att with a full pension? 378 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: And why would someone who has that higher level job 379 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: decide all of a sudden, you know what I need 380 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: to put in from my retirement, and I need to 381 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: get out, and this is the earliest date that I 382 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: can get out. I don't know what the did he 383 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: just put that in and said I gotta get out 384 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: of gain. Well, it might have been his planning all along, 385 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: because let me think about if you can get your 386 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: full retirement at fifty, right, wuldn't you do? What did 387 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: you take it? I don't know if this was the 388 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: plan all along. He obviously went early because he was 389 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: gonna run out, you know, he was trying to run 390 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: out the clock and and had come under a lot 391 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: of scrutiny. The thing is, people ask me like, oh, Buck, 392 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? I was in the 393 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: c I A. I obviously wasn't a career officer who 394 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: spent twenty years there because then I would have had 395 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: to start when I was like five. So I don't. 396 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how the vesting process works and all that. 397 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: What I can tell you, uh, is that one it 398 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: is very hard to get fired from these places. You 399 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: have to do something usually illegal. That's what I always 400 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: tell everybody. If you show up on time, if you 401 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: are where you are supposed to be for your job 402 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: in the federal government, when you're supposed to be there, 403 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: and you don't actively break the law, it's still and 404 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: but you refuse to do any work of any kind. 405 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: It still takes a long time to fire you. So 406 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: that's the way the civil service procedures work. And I 407 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: know that for some of these gigs. Look, some people 408 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: have great deals. I could sit here and talk to 409 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: you about, like UH fireman's pensions in UH California, for example, 410 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: and some of the major cities California. They are lucrative. 411 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: They ever, that's the deal, that's what they saw it 412 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: up for. But they've got great deals. The FBI think 413 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: has a pretty good deal. I would note that I've 414 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: read this today and we haven't checked on this, so 415 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: Mike got a fact check me on this one, Producer, Mike, 416 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm off. I read today that Anthony Weener, 417 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: who is currently serving I believe a federal prison sentence. 418 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: He's in prison now right. Anthony Weiner, who is a 419 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: convicted sex offender, will get a million what is the 420 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: equivalent of a million dollars worth of benefits for his 421 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: pension as a former member of Congress, despite being a 422 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: convicted felon sex offender. So there are some places where 423 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: you get great It's a great gig, Dean, if you 424 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: can get it in terms of the pension. Yeah, worth 425 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: one point two millions, worth one point to million. Do 426 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: we lose Dean or it is Dean just in awe 427 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: of all the knowledge bombs, I'm dropping you there, Oh, 428 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: there you go. Sorry, now I've done it. What do 429 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: I say to the American public that a House of 430 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: Representatives member who were thinking math has kind of hidden 431 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: agenda to try and get his name out for the 432 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: presidency sometime in the near future. But what does it 433 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 1: say that they step up after the Federal Bureau of 434 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: Investigation kind of internal affairs department and an inspector general, 435 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: a completely separate agency, decide that this person should be terminated, 436 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: and he then steps up and says, you know what, 437 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: I'll hire him from three days so he can get 438 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: his pension, right exactly? What what are we supposed to 439 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: think of our trusted institutions then? And this is this 440 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: is like the equivalent of saying, well, the FBI's processes 441 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: don't matter anymore. What matters is getting Trump and what 442 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: manages supporting people who tried to get Trump. That's what 443 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 1: they're saying. Yeah, yeah, alright, Dean shields him and thank 444 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: you very much for the call. Dean isn't a stute fellow. 445 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: Charlie in Ocean City, Maryland. Hey, Charlie, Hey Buck, I'm 446 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: glad you call and shields high brother. How do you sir? Hey? 447 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: I was just listening earlier to day on some talk 448 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: shows and they pointed out there's a report out that 449 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: McCabe is actually net worst about eleven mill And I'm 450 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: trying to think I was just a simple bricklayer. If 451 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: he made a hundred thousand a year in twenty years, 452 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: that's only two mills. How do you get eleven? Well, 453 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: his wife is a doctor, right, uh huh, So, I 454 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: mean she might be making I don't know, I don't 455 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: know what. I don't know what doctors in Virginia. She 456 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: was a primary care physician. I believe she could probably 457 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: make a half million dollars a year. Yeah, So I 458 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: mean the man, okay, his pench is what fifty six 459 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: thousand a year. If you're asking me, how are they 460 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: gonna have a networthy of eleven million, Charlie, the answer is, 461 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: I I don't know, um, but it's worth looking into. 462 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: But you know, they could have family, you know, she 463 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: could have family money. There's a lot of ways that 464 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: people can have money that don't necessarily you know. I 465 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: but I see this with who is the guy um 466 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: senator from Arizona who was the majority Harry Reid. How 467 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: is it that Harry Reid was what could afford living 468 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: in an in an apartment in the Ritz Carlton, which 469 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: is like the most expensive place in all of d C. 470 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: That was where he lived when he was in d C. 471 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: Where in Harry Reagan that kind of cash? I don't know. 472 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: Look at their friend Nancy, I mean she well she 473 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: married a rich guy. Yeah, that's the old fashioned way 474 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: marry somebody a lot of money. That's a good way 475 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: to do it. Charlie Shields simment, thank you for calling in. 476 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: I'll look a little more into whether or not McCabe. 477 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, but that's there's always the option of your 478 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: family money. Uh maybe maybe Dr McCabe writes novels under 479 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: a pen name and it's done very well. You know. 480 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of ways that people make money you 481 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: woun't know about, but it's it's worth looking, worth looking 482 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: to do. I would say this, I'm guessing FBI has 483 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: financial disclosures and so they probably know a whole lot 484 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: about how McCabe did or did not make money. Um, 485 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: so I'm not seeing that is a big issue, but 486 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: I'll keep an eye on it. I'll make that promise 487 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: to you. I want to switch gears because Cambridge Analytica 488 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: is getting a lot of attention. Facebook lost billions of 489 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: dollars in value today. It was down about five scent 490 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: something like that. In trading. I don't pay that close 491 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: attention to the markets, but Facebook had a very bad day. 492 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: Everyone's freaking out about this thing, and to me, well 493 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: a few things. One is that they're freaking out because 494 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: it involves Trump, so that always automatically, when Trump's arrangement 495 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: syndrome kicks in, everything is oh my gosh. Uh. But 496 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: they're acting like it's a huge surprise that people will 497 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: use the data they can glean from social media and 498 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: uh use that for the purposes of constructing political messaging 499 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: and memes and campaigns and everything else. Social media makes. 500 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: The reason these places are are so lucrative, and the 501 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: reason they offer you a service for free is to 502 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: aggregate your data to then capitalize off of that data. 503 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: That that is what social media does. That is how 504 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: Facebook is essentially a giant printing press. Of money, They 505 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: take the information about you, they take your activities, and 506 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: then they tailor advertising to you. And Facebook, by the way, 507 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: has clamped down hard on just you know, the way 508 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: that they are doing things these days. And it's their 509 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: way or the highway. As I've been saying for a 510 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: long time, we are in these progressive left wing mega 511 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: platforms and there's been no choice for a lot of folks. 512 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: You know. People now are well, I'm gonna I'm gonna 513 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: go in a whole rand here about something else. Cambridge 514 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: Analytica involved at the Trump campaign. People are freaking out why. 515 00:29:50,640 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: I'll answer the question after the break. Cambridge Analytic UH 516 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: was birthed out of a company called scl Group, which 517 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: is a military contractor based in London. It UH this 518 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: this data was used to create profiling algorithms that would 519 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: allow us to explore mental vulnerabilities of people UM and 520 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: then map out wigs to UH inject information into different 521 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: different streams or channels of content online so that people 522 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: started to see things all over the place that that 523 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: may or may not have been true. This is a 524 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: company that that really took fake news to to the 525 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: next level by powering it with algorithms So that's Christopher Wiley, 526 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: who helped found the data firm Cambridge Analytica. It's getting 527 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: so much news media attention right now and people are 528 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: talking about how it has well. He said that it 529 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: has an arsenal of weapons in a culture war as 530 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: I understand it. Here's what's happened. You have different companies 531 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: that are always trying to find ways to aggregate the 532 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: stuff that we're all doing online all the times. These 533 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: social media platforms, my friends, are like intel collectors on you. 534 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: Every click, every look, every like, all the stuff we're 535 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: doing all the time. We just think it goes into 536 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: some you know, vast cloud and who cares? And sure 537 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: that's somewhat true. Although I've been saying for a while, 538 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: just wait until one of these social media companies decides 539 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: to release the you know, private chat that some guy 540 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: had on Facebook with his mistress twenty years ago when 541 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: he's running for president, Because that's gonna happen. Guaranteed that's 542 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: gonna happen, just a question of when. And people say, oh, well, 543 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, they're private company, they can do whatever they want. 544 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? They violated their terms of 545 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: service and they can say they changed their terms of 546 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: service the private company. Unless Congress passes laws to protect 547 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: people from the exploitation of their private information on these 548 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: social on these third party platforms, then that's the way. 549 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: That's the way it's gonna be. But so, here's what 550 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: happened with Camera gen Analytical. They are a group that's 551 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: looking at all this different social media data and they're 552 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: trying to find ways to create the most well to 553 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: understand the psyche of the masses really and then they 554 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: exploit that information. They exploit exploit that information advantage for 555 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: the purposes of politics. In this case, it seems that 556 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: they may have hired a company Cambridge Analytica, and their 557 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: ties to the Mercers and Benning and this is all, 558 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know there you mind, you know, 559 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: the the Obama team back in twelve and uh two 560 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, they were doing stuff that people thought, 561 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know, they're look at how great 562 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: their digital team is looking at all this Facebook information 563 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: and data, and everyone's crunching all these numbers all the time. 564 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: The problem that, well, there's a few things going on 565 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: here with the Camera Generalytic. One of them is they 566 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: may have hired another company to be kind of a 567 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: front that would have you take a personality quiz and 568 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: then you answer all these questions about yourself. And I 569 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: think it might have also given you might have also 570 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: given that app uh access to your data, your friend lists, 571 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: your likes, all that stuff. And this is standard. A 572 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: lot of these apps say you know, can I have 573 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: access to? And it lists all the different things. This 574 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: is the brave new world we live in now. And 575 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: if you say yes, then guess what that means that 576 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: that service has access to sure enough all that stuff, 577 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: which is why a lot of these things that we 578 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: think are free are free for us. But they do 579 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: come at a cost. And the cost is your information 580 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: and your privacy. And that information is now out there. 581 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: And if you think it's protected, just start reading about 582 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 1: some of the major cyber breaches that have happened, and 583 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: including places like the government and and others that their 584 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: whole reason for existing is to prevent cyber breaches. Right there. 585 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: They're doing a lot of work, a lot of effort 586 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: to try and make sure that does not happen, and 587 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: they get breached. So don't think that all Facebook has 588 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: it. It It must be safe. But they you heard that 589 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: guy wildy when we started the segment here saying that 590 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: they're like weaponizing people's ideas, exploding psychological vulnerabilities. Another way 591 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: of saying it is, yeah, they're figuring out what's on 592 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: people's minds, what's popular, and then they're constructing narratives and stories, 593 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: and maybe that includes fake news, maybe it doesn't. Probably 594 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: does that will get the most clicks and shares and 595 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: everything else. By the way, every media entity I know 596 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: is doing this in one way or another. This is 597 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: the game now, folks. This is what is going on. 598 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: It's only being treated as so nefarious now because it 599 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: involves Trump and some of the Trump or Trump's associates, 600 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: people like Bannon and Mercer, who is bankrolling Trump. She's 601 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: the daughter of the billionaire Robert Mercer. And this is 602 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: going on in all kinds of ways. I have seen 603 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: this coming for a while. I've been trying to sound 604 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: the alarm as much as possible that the Internet in 605 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: particularly with the advent of the social media platforms and 606 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: their dominance in our discourse. I mean, I know people 607 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: now who are like, well, you know, I'm just gonna 608 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: build my business. I'm just gonna sell directly over Facebook 609 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, you can do that for a while. 610 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: But guess what happens when Facebook realizes that your company 611 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: is deriving a vast majority of its revenue from them? 612 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: Do you do you think that they can know that 613 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: and then decide that they're gonna use the leverage they 614 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: have over you to demand even higher rates and more. 615 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: You know, we're giving so much power to these things. 616 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: Facebook is the biggest example, but you know, Twitter, um, Instagram, Snapchat, 617 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: which I've always thought was kind of garbage, um, but 618 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: these are collecting information on millions and millions of people 619 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: and they're using that. Make no mistake about it. They 620 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: are using the information they get from your day to 621 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: day activities, every like, every click, every digital thought that 622 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: you leave online, and that may not be used against 623 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: you personally, but it will be used by these companies 624 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: to get an information advantage. And in the massive digital 625 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: propaganda wars that are going on right now, social media 626 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: platforms are the front line. Um more on camera. Ge 627 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: Atletic a for you tomorrow, promise he's holding the line 628 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: for America. Buck sex in his back. This neighborhood is 629 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: still being locked down right now for safety. Again, we're 630 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: doing this in over abundance of caution so that we 631 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: can keep this neighborhood safe. What we process the scene. 632 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: What I can tell you is based on the preliminary 633 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 1: review we have done at this time. We have seen 634 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: similarities in the device that exploded here last night and 635 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: the other three devices that have exploded in Austin starting 636 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: on March two. Again, this is preliminary information, but we 637 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: have seen similarities. The big difference in this device again 638 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: is we believe that a trip wire was used in 639 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: this device. Welcome to our to of the Buck Sexton Show, 640 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: Tough News out of Austin, Texas, where you have a 641 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: fourth a fourth bomb exploding this time, as you heard 642 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: from the Austin Police Chief, there as a result of 643 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: a trip wire, so a more sophisticated device. And now 644 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: the narrative from law enforcement down in Austin when we're 645 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: hearing it has shifted away from what was initially it 646 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: seemed like some perhaps even hate crime based attacks. So 647 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: now they just have a madman, a serial bomber on 648 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: the loose, and they have very little to work with. 649 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: From what we've been told so far, you've got four bombings. 650 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: There have been fatalities, there have also been some people 651 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: wounded as a result of it, and they're looking for 652 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: help right now down in Austin. They're looking for someone 653 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: to come forward from the public, because the analysis of 654 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: an actual bomb after it's gone off is a painstaking process. 655 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: It's not something that happens very quickly. You need to 656 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: find the pieces of it, that shrapnel has to be analyzed. 657 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: You're looking for any signature that you can find on 658 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: any of this, looking for d n A, looking for 659 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: the components. Using devices, can you reverse engineer the device 660 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: in such a way it might give you clues about 661 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: how someone put it together and where they got that information. 662 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: Maybe if you might get lucky and have some unique 663 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: component to it that is traceable, right, that's um, that 664 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: is what I believe. That's actually how the Oklahoma City 665 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: bombing of the of the Federal building there by Timothy McVeigh. 666 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: I think they found a VIN number among the UH 667 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: in the debris and that was the big break in 668 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: that case. You see, sometimes when you're looking for a bomber, 669 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: they make it much easier. I remember during the Fisal 670 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: Shazad case in two ten, the would be Times Square bomber. 671 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: He left the car that he tried to blow up, 672 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: make into a vehicle board and provides explosive device. He 673 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: left the car in times square, so you trace the 674 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: car and then you're able to trace the able to 675 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: find a whole bunch of information on they're able to 676 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: trace the phone that he had used. He had a 677 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: I believe he had a burner phone. He had a 678 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: pay as he goes cell phone. Um. And then he 679 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: got to the airport and almost got back to Pakistan. 680 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: They had to catch him on the plane at the airport. 681 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: He almost got out of the country, but he did 682 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: leave clues. He left information that law enforcem could work with, 683 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: including me. I remember being called in that weekend after 684 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: the bomb almost went off. Um, he did not. He 685 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: was not a skilled bomb maker. Otherwise you would have 686 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: had a high casualty count that day. But this time 687 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: around with Austin, it doesn't look like police have have 688 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 1: much to go on so far. UM. Here's the Austin 689 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: Police Chief on on where the investigation stands. There has 690 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: already been a significant presence from our federal partners since 691 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: these events began, and as we reported yesterday, we have 692 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: over five hundred agents and their teams working on Austin 693 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: cases alone, and we have additional resources being brought in 694 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 1: again by both of those agencies, And as has already 695 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,959 Speaker 1: been broadcast, there is a hundred thousand dollar reward out 696 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: there for someone who can give us a tip leading 697 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: to the identification of the suspect or suspects in this incident. 698 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: So they're looking to law enforcems looking to get lucky. 699 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: Here someone will come forward and say, you know what 700 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: I've I've got something for you. Or maybe it's someone 701 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: who just wants the hundred k who was trying to 702 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: keep silent before mind their own business, so to speak, 703 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: and now they're gonna step forward, and who knows, we'll 704 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: have to see. You have five agents working on this case. 705 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: In the Austin area. Four bombings as I As I mentioned, 706 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: and the addition of a trigger device to this one 707 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: means that this is now something that could have I 708 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: could have gone off and killed anyone, children, anybody. I mean, 709 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it is. Target of the first 710 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: three bombings were package bombs that were opened by individuals. 711 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: They were left on there I believe, left on their porches, 712 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: and they were left in what was a predominantly minority 713 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: area of Austin. So there was also initially put out 714 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 1: there by I don't know if it was the media 715 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: or and law enforcement or just the media, but the 716 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,479 Speaker 1: notion this might have been a hate crime. Now it's 717 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: looking like there's a greater randomness to all of this. 718 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: The most recent bombing, I believe two people injured, neither 719 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: of them killed. But the most recent bombing was a 720 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: uh more well off part of the city and was 721 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: triggered by a trip wire. So that's just anybody in 722 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: the area. People are asking the question about is this 723 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: terrorism or not. That's a discussion that I've gotten involved 724 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 1: in at the national media level and a whole bunch 725 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: of cases in the past. There's just not enough to 726 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: go on right now. We just don't know um and 727 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 1: anything put out there right now about motive feels like speculation. 728 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, this, this could be uh this could be 729 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: domestic terrorism. Absolutely. It also just could be a completely 730 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: sick and deranged individual who wants to send bombs or 731 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: or plant bombs and kill people just because you know, 732 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: we we don't know. So I don't have much on 733 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: the analytics side to give you on why I think 734 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: this person maybe this person is doing this. As to 735 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: how they find him, this is where you hope that 736 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: all these different ages. You've got a t F down there, FBI, 737 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: Austin City Police, I'm sure you get state police. I'm 738 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: sure Texas Marshals are all the men. Everyone's FBI. Ever, 739 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: everyone's in on this one as they should be, um 740 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: because this is now a city under siege in a sense. 741 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,280 Speaker 1: You've got people that are concerned about and and rightfully 742 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 1: so concerned about just walking around the streets. Right these 743 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: are essentially I e. D. S going off in Austin, 744 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: and they have no real leads that we know of, 745 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: and there's no sense that they're gonna be able to 746 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: catch this person anytime imminently unless they get some sort 747 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: of a break. Now we're hoping that maybe, uh, they'll 748 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: be able to reverse kind of the surveillance footage from 749 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: different cameras, maybe street cameras or um in different buildings nearby. 750 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: You know, this is where they try to piece together 751 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: whatever they can to just get that one break in 752 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: the case, because right now it is bleak. It's terrible. 753 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: I've read the stories of a young man who was killed, 754 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: you know, opening this. He's with his mother, and mother 755 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: was severely injured. They brought this package into their into 756 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: their kitchen, and just this is it's so the whole 757 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 1: thing is so evil and so senseless. So I really 758 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: hope that they managed to track down whoever is responsible 759 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: and hold them to account and prosecute them the fullest 760 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: extent of the law. I'm assuming this was to me 761 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: on right on his face, this is a death penalty case. Um, 762 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: just based on what's going on already, and we'll have 763 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: to see if there's some kind of a manifesto, possible 764 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: political motivation behind this, you know, war against the government. 765 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned Timothy with baby before. Someone who's you know, 766 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: who knows, could be any idea, you know, could be 767 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: any terrorist or extremist ideology. We just don't know right now. 768 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: We don't have much to go on. So if we 769 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: have anything that breaks during the show, I will bring 770 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: it to you. We're watching the case very close, Lee, 771 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: and our thoughts and prayers are with those in the 772 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: city of Austin tonight. We're we're thinking about you also, um, 773 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, stay safe down there, and let's let law 774 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: enforce and do their work and hope they come up 775 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: with some solutions. Quickly, we'll hit a quick break. We'll 776 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: be right back. Trump and trade and of course China, China. 777 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 1: Trump talking about what he is going to do with tariffs. 778 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: But I've been trying to look at this from as 779 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: many perspectives as we possibly can here in the Freedom Hup. 780 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: We have somebody who is an actual expert on trade 781 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: will join us now here were the peace it's up 782 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: on the hill. How much does trade impact Americans? Not 783 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: all that much. We have Derek Scissors on the line. 784 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: He is an international coonymous at the American Enterprise Institute. Derek, 785 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I'm glad to be here. So 786 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: I really like your piece because you're saying, look, the 787 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: people that are saying that this is a huge deal, 788 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: and if Trump does this thing he says you're gonna do, 789 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: the economy is gonna come tumbling down. It's a little 790 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: bit of chicken little going on. Yeah, It's the basic 791 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: story here on trade is if you have very strong, 792 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: paid trade policies for a long period of time, that 793 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: can matter even to a really big country like the 794 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: United States. But our economy, if you use gross domestic products, 795 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: is eighteen trillion dollars. Every steal on aluminum product. We 796 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: import everyone, no exceptions, all countries billion um. You do 797 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: the math. It's just not a big deal. It's hard 798 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: for trade to matter to the U. S can have 799 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,399 Speaker 1: to matter the US over time. Sure can really big 800 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: sanctions against China matter. Sure the steel tariffs are not 801 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: gonna matter. What do you say to people who say, oh, 802 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 1: but Derek, if maybe it's only about fifty billions at 803 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: forty eight billions for stealing aluminium, but there will be 804 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 1: all of these reprisals and retaliation. Well, I mean the 805 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: rest of the world's We have the biggest coconomy in 806 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: the world, but the rest of the world's economy is 807 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: bigger than ours. If we're importing forty eight billion dollars 808 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 1: from everybody and everybody's economy put together as bigger than ours, 809 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: why do they care so much about the forty eight 810 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: billion dollars? There could be retaliation. I agree that the 811 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: retaliation will probably be worth about forty billion dollars um. 812 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: So this is not I think the way to attack 813 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: the stealing aluminum terraces. What are we trying to accomplish? 814 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: And and that's where I would push the President of 815 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: the administration, like what are we trying to accomplish here? 816 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: Tell me exactly where you're going with this. But the 817 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: idea that what we did is really going to hurt 818 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: us or them or both of us, and then they're 819 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: gonna do this, They're gonna have this huge retaliation. Why 820 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: would they have huge retaliation against what really is a 821 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: small trade step by the United States. They're gonna talk 822 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: a lot about it because they want to look like 823 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: they're they're being tough for their own people, just like 824 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 1: President Trump does. But again, their retaliation is going to 825 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: be small, just like our and was small. And in 826 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: terms of what China is doing, that is uh that 827 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: that would go in the category of unfair. Just for 828 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: everybody listening, Well, what does China do from a trade 829 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: perspective that gives them an advantage over rivals? That would 830 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: rufflesome feathers in the Trans Pacific partnership side of the aisle? Right, 831 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: the people that believe that if we all just got 832 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: together and did more trading, everything would be great, Well, 833 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: we do two things, one of which the administration is 834 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: looking into and we may hear what they're gonna do 835 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 1: about it as soon as this week, and the other one, 836 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: which I'll talk about a second, but the first one 837 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: that the aministrat is looking into is they they steal 838 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: or or try to push companies into transferring technology or 839 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,280 Speaker 1: intellectual property. And basically the problem there is American firms 840 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: are the most innovative in the world. Not in every field, 841 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 1: but overall, we have the most innovative companies, We have 842 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: the most innovative workers, we have the most innovative people. Well, 843 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: if we innovate on the Chinese say hey, thanks for 844 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: the innovation, we're just gonna steal it, or we're gonna 845 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: push your companies saying you can't do any business in 846 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: China unless turn over this technology. Um. They we don't 847 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: get the benefits from that that we should are are 848 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: Our companies can't sell as many goods because the Chinese 849 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: are competing with them, which means fewer jobs for American workers. 850 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: So that's what the administration is looking at right now. 851 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: It's it's China taking the thing that we do best 852 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 1: and trying to steal the advantages of it. Um. The 853 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: other thing that they do is they heavily subsidize their 854 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,240 Speaker 1: their Some of their firms stayed on enterprises in China 855 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: and those firms don't export because even heavily subsidized, they're 856 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: not competitive. But it basically means that Chinese market is 857 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 1: closed to a lot of American goods because Chinese standard 858 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: enterprises never lose. You can't outcompete them, you can't drive 859 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: them into bankruptcy because you have better products, you're a 860 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: better company, you're better workers, doesn't matter. They don't lose. 861 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: So that's the block on the Chinese market that they 862 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 1: don't let their stated on enterprises lose, and then if 863 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: that weren't enough, they go out and they take American 864 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: and other countries innovation. Now, the issue of technology is 865 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 1: actually something I'm going to address later from a national 866 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: security perspective. But when the president and everyone we're speaking 867 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 1: to Derek Scissors from the American Enterprise Institute, he's an 868 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: international economist. When the President says that we're getting killed 869 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: on trade, China is doing all this bad stuff on trade. Uh, 870 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: he's speaking in very general terms. But what is he 871 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: really trying to get at? Yeah, I mean that's that's 872 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: a good question. During the campaign and and sometimes as 873 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: president of President President Trump has really emphasized cutting into 874 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: the bilateral trade deficit. So if you can if you 875 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: include goods and services. The US has about a three 876 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: billion dollar bilateral trade deficit with China last year, and 877 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 1: President Trump just you know, that really bothers him, and 878 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: he'd like that to come down to, you know, a 879 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars. He knows he's not going to go away, 880 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: but he wants an improvement. He wants it to stop 881 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: rising and start dropping. But does he have a point? 882 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 1: Is that a problem because people tell us it's not 883 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: a problem. I don't think that's the problem. This is 884 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 1: the way I would put in. The US and China 885 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: have really big economies. You know, you put them together 886 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,280 Speaker 1: in terms of gross domestic products GDP, it's thirty trillion dollars. 887 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 1: If the Chinese were good trade partners. If you had 888 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: asked me a question, you said, you know, what do 889 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: the Chinese do that that upsets people who you know, 890 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: have a very positive view of the world, um like 891 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,399 Speaker 1: our tv P partners. And I said, I I don't know, 892 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: and none of my friends know. And we've been working 893 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,320 Speaker 1: at this for years and they're great trade partners. I 894 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't care about the trade deficits. What bothers me is 895 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: what they do the trade deficit is an outcome. So 896 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, three forty million do sounds like a lot 897 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,240 Speaker 1: of money. But if China was a great trade partner 898 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: that was open to American products, that didn't steal American technology, 899 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: I would say, I know that that's just the way 900 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: it is. The story I think the President is getting 901 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 1: at is they have that trade surplus because they're not 902 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: good trade partners, um and and you know what I 903 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 1: want is to change their practices. I think the President 904 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: would just be happy if the trade deficit fell for 905 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, for whatever reason, the Chinese just buy a 906 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: bunch of US soybeans, um. So there's a little bit 907 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: of a split there. I don't think the trade deficit 908 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: is a problem. I think what China does is the problem. 909 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: I think the President really just wants the trade deficit 910 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: to shrink. And on the issue of UH steel specifically, 911 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: are we going to be able to see some improvement 912 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: in you know, US industry and steel output. But I 913 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: would assume then if it's only fifty billion dollars or importing, 914 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: there are limitations on how much of an impact this 915 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,720 Speaker 1: will have in the economy apart from the national security 916 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: aspect of it. Right, and so yeah, I mean, if 917 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: if you apply tear after everyone, you didn't grant any exceptions, 918 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 1: you and you've got all steel allans, the limited paris 919 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: only ten percent. You're not gonna stop importing forty eight 920 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: billion dollars, which is the total last year. It's gonna drop. 921 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna drop to like thirty five billion because those 922 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: products got more expensive. So we're talking about thirteen billion 923 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,840 Speaker 1: dollars more production in the United States. That's not nothing. 924 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: But for people who are familiar with this industry, even 925 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: steel is heavily automated. It's a lot of capital spending 926 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: to set up a steel mill. They're not as many 927 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,959 Speaker 1: workers as there used to be. Would it create some jobs? Yeah? 928 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: How many jobs will it create? I'm afraid not very many. 929 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 1: It's also not going to cause the cost of your 930 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: car or your plane fly to your house to go 931 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: staring through the roof. That's my point about. You know, 932 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: both sides are exaggerating how important this is. But cutting 933 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: steel imports by ten fifteen billion dollars, it's it's just 934 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,959 Speaker 1: not going to create very many jobs. Let me ask 935 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: you what we got you on the phone here. One 936 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: more about about NAFTA, You've said before that you've had 937 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: it on my show that NAFTA it is time for 938 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: it to be renegotiated. So people that kind of roll 939 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: their eyes look skyward and all that when Trump says 940 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: we got to renegotiate NAFTA, it does need some some updating. 941 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: What would be the best way for Trump to go 942 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 1: about that? Right, So, it absolutely needs some updating. It's 943 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: a twenty three year old agreement. It was path breaking 944 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: at the time. You know, whether you think it's terrible 945 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 1: or great, people tend to agree that it was path breaking. Um, 946 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: it does need some updating. The world has changed a 947 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: lot since then. You know, we didn't have digital trade then, 948 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 1: we didn't have trade through the internet. We didn't have 949 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: people buying things online and anything like the quantities that 950 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: we have now. So, I mean there's another situation where 951 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: I think the President is right that it needs updated. 952 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: I think what the administration is negotiating with to try 953 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 1: to modernize the agreement and to say to Mexican Canada, look, 954 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: the US is very good at services. You need to 955 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 1: allow us to be able to sell our stuff digitally 956 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 1: and not have taxes or restrictions or planning games. So 957 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,319 Speaker 1: that those are good things to try to do. The 958 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: President also really wants our bilateral trade deficit with Mexico 959 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: to fall, and that's going to be really hard because 960 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: the Mexican economy is basically not growing. So if you're 961 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: just trying to upgrade and improve nafter, you can do it. 962 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 1: And if you in the Mexicans and the Canadians don't 963 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: go along, it's their fault. But if you're trying to 964 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: get the trade deficit the fall, that's gonna be a 965 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: tough sell. Because we're growing faster than Mexico. It's gonna 966 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: be really hard for them to buy more products from 967 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: the United States when they're not buying more of their 968 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: own products. Derek Scissors of AI. Everybody go to a 969 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: EI dot org to read their latest research. Derek, thank 970 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: you so much for joining. Thanks to your peace. Thank you. 971 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Say we're gonna roll into a quick break, 972 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: will be back in just a few minutes. We're gonna 973 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: have Jesse Kelly joining later this hour. Talk about raising 974 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: young men because he's got a couple of young men 975 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: that he's raising kids. I don't, so he's an expert 976 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: on that. I'm not. You'll be joining. We'll talk about that. 977 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: Stay with me. He's back with you now, because when 978 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 1: it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. 979 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: As a millennial, I've heard a lot of the stories 980 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 1: out there from those of you who are boomers gen xers. 981 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: Is Jen why a thing too about how you know, well, 982 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 1: when I was going to college, I I was a 983 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: bar back and I you know, worked as a golf 984 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: golf caddy over the summer, and you know, you have 985 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: you have all these stories about how you're saving money 986 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,320 Speaker 1: for college or or raising money for your college tuition 987 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: when you're in it, and they make great stories to 988 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: tell your kids. And one of the get off my 989 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: lawn things you often hear from the boomer generation is, 990 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 1: you know, kids these days, they're just they expect someone 991 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 1: else to pay for it, or it's all it's all 992 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 1: taking out debt, and then they're hoping the debt will 993 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: just be wiped away. I would note that that is 994 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 1: a major major platform for the sander Nista left wing 995 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party going forward. You got a trillion 996 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 1: dollar student loan bubble out there, people are just gonna 997 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: say that, yeah, just we should just have debt forgiveness 998 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: of it, just forgive the debt. What do they think 999 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: about what that would mean? No, they don't. But it's 1000 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,479 Speaker 1: gonna get bigger because there's no way people are gonna 1001 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: be able to pay off a lot of those loans um. 1002 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: But there's a great piece in the New York Time, 1003 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 1: you know, in the Wall Street Journal at the New 1004 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,760 Speaker 1: York Times, you can't work your way through college anymore, 1005 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: and it just talks about how different the situation is 1006 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 1: now when you're talking about a particularly a four year 1007 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: private college, but even a lot of these states schools. 1008 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 1: The difference between what it used to be to go 1009 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: to a place like Yale, for example, very fancy, very 1010 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: elite school, versus what it would be to go to 1011 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: Yale today. And this is then filters down all the 1012 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: way across the spectrum. So the notion that you could 1013 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: wait tables, you know, you could have some job as 1014 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 1: a lifeguard at the beach, save money and pay off 1015 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: a semester at college that's gone, you would have to 1016 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: be making well. He gives you this, gives you the 1017 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: numbers here, and I'll walk you through someone numbers. Here's 1018 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 1: what he writes. This is by Richard West the Wall 1019 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: Street Journal. That's right for all you get off my 1020 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 1: law types. You guys, when it when it came to 1021 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: college tuition, I'm gonna say it, you had it easy. 1022 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: You had it easy compared to what's going on today. 1023 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 1: It is out of control now. And I would also 1024 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: know that you're supposed to get an advanced degree now, 1025 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: just to have one, even if you don't use it. 1026 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: And I know so many people that have j d s. 1027 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, went to law school, and it's like, oh, 1028 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 1: what do you do? I work in marketing? What do 1029 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 1: you Why do you have a j d? Heh? You know? 1030 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 1: Is you know? I gotta gotta be competitive three years 1031 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: of law school anyway. Here's what Richard West writes in 1032 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,959 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty six as a freshman at year Yil. Here's 1033 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: a Yale man, he's a yearly. I waited tables in 1034 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: a student dorm for about one dollar an hour, ten 1035 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 1: hours a week. I received a full scholarship. But even 1036 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: if it had ended, I recall that Yale's all in 1037 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 1: price is amazing. Yale is all in price, including tuition, 1038 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 1: room and board, was eighteen hundred dollars a year. And 1039 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: my work while in school during the term ten hours 1040 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: a week would have covered a sixth of that, So 1041 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,919 Speaker 1: you would while you're in school. This is not even 1042 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: paying it off after you get out of school. While 1043 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: you were in school in six you could pay off 1044 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: a chunk of your Yale tuition, and then when you 1045 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: graduate you have even lesson. As everyone knows, you've gotta 1046 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 1: pay interest on the debt and everything else on the loan. 1047 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: He goes on. Today, tuition room and board of Yale 1048 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: run sixty six thousand, nine hundred dollars. Now for a 1049 00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 1: lot of people, I know they're gonna say a book 1050 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: eighteen hundred dollars and nineteen fifty six was a lot 1051 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: more than than it is today. Uh, it wasn't sixty 1052 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars. Might have been I don't know. We 1053 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: could actually look at what the uh what the inflation 1054 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 1: calculator would say for it. I don't know, maybe maybe 1055 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: five ten x, you know, maybe something like that. It was. 1056 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't almost seventy grand now eighteen hundred bucks and 1057 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty six wasn't seventy thousand dollars? Okay, so that 1058 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 1: much I know, no false, And we're not talking about 1059 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 1: eighteen fifty six. This is nineteen fifty six. So he 1060 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 1: goes into some of the number crunching here. This is 1061 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 1: just before we all, you know, hear all the stories. 1062 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: You know, order order trojure my university classes and four 1063 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: fut or snow. And I was carrying on my back 1064 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: the lumber for my job as a campus lumberjack. You know, 1065 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: I was carrying around paying her off the hard waree 1066 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: splinters in my hands when I was doing multi variable calculus. 1067 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: You know, we hear all these stories. You know, people, 1068 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, are you finished with the sawmill at nine am? 1069 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And I was on campus at ten am paying it off. 1070 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Now that's all great, but it doesn't really work that 1071 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: way anymore. Here's what he writes. Quote today, tuition, room 1072 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: and board at Yale run sixty six dollars working the 1073 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 1: same amount as I did even at twelve dollars an hour. 1074 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 1: An increase of roughly one third after inflation, produces income 1075 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: of thirty six dollars, or slightly more than five of 1076 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: the total to earn enough to pay for one sixth 1077 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 1: of a Yale education, which require an hourly wage of 1078 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: more than thirty seven dollars. Yeah, not a lot of 1079 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 1: college kids are getting thirty seven dollars an hour for 1080 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: their job unless they're an s A T hooter maybe um. 1081 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know what that markets like these days either, 1082 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 1: but this is where we start to look at how 1083 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,959 Speaker 1: higher education is just completely out of control in terms 1084 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: of costs right now. I also think the quality has 1085 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 1: gone down dramatically. You look at what was required curriculum 1086 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of these schools back in the fifties 1087 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,439 Speaker 1: and sixty So for the get off my law types 1088 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 1: out there, you've got some you've got some stuff, you've 1089 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 1: got some likes to stand on. Uh. But now you know, 1090 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: you get everyone coming out of school with women in 1091 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: gender studies degree thirty forty fifty, sometimes a hundred thousand 1092 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 1: dollars in debt, and this has become the norm. This 1093 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 1: is now the expectation for a lot of well, this 1094 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 1: is the expectation, and society is is pushing people into this. 1095 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 1: It's just assumed that you shouldn't do trade school. You know, 1096 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: it's just and I want to say, assumed a lot 1097 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 1: of you are like Buck, I went to trade school. 1098 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: I didn't assume that. I'm talking about, you know, the 1099 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: the general cultural thrust right, the uh, the media, the 1100 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,919 Speaker 1: institutions around us. How do here's a good example, how 1101 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 1: do high schools generally measure the success of their graduates? 1102 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: What percentage go to college? It's not what percentage get 1103 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 1: a good paying job right away and start saving for 1104 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 1: a down payment on a house and creating skills and 1105 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 1: financial security for themselves. That's not how they measure success. 1106 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 1: And maybe they should change that a little bit. You know, 1107 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 1: they should probably have a what yeah, okay, what level 1108 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 1: of people are uh coming out here? What percentage of 1109 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: people are coming out and going to college? But it 1110 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: would also be worthwhile to have what percentage of students 1111 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: leave this high school and have gainful employment within the first, 1112 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, twelve months of graduating. If that's what they 1113 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: choose to do, we really need to change this. If 1114 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: if I knew now, or if I knew them what 1115 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 1: I know now about what it would mean to go 1116 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: away for four years and be told to just study 1117 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 1: and better myself and read. Oh my gosh. And I 1118 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 1: think even spending a year to working or serving your 1119 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 1: country the military is an obvious choice, but there are 1120 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: other capacities in which I think service would even be 1121 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 1: very illuminate eating. This needs to be a much bigger 1122 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 1: national conversation along with school choice. Uh. There are so 1123 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 1: many places here where conservatives are actually on you know, 1124 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: the conservatives are on the side of innovation and improvement. 1125 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: It is the liberals who are part of these sclerotic, 1126 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 1: stubborn bureaucracy that refuses to change, that excuses failure, in fact, 1127 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 1: always finds a way to transfer the responsibility to failure 1128 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 1: onto someone else's shoulders. And it's just unwilling to look 1129 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: at what's really happening in education in this country despite 1130 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: all the spending. You know, they're so quick to make 1131 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 1: fun of Betsy Devas, who's at least trying to do 1132 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 1: something to help kids in particularly inner city schools, in 1133 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: in minority uh minority areas with low average incomes. You know, 1134 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 1: she's trying to help those students, and people want to 1135 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: mock her. I know she's mocked on SNL over the weekend. 1136 01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,439 Speaker 1: When I look at this now and I see top 1137 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 1: to bottom education has become too expensive. It is not better. 1138 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: It is focusing on less applicable skills, and it's inexcusable 1139 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 1: because technology and the availability of information has never been 1140 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 1: better than it is right now. So we've just got 1141 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 1: to catch up with some of the ideas and policies 1142 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: and use the technologies we have so that everybody's finding 1143 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: their best path, whatever that may be. I gotta roll, 1144 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: no break team, I'll be back. Welcome back everyone. We 1145 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 1: are gonna switch gears here for a moment and uh 1146 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 1: get into some some man time. We've got Jesse Kelly 1147 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 1: with us. He is a former Marine. He is also 1148 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: former Congressional Kennedy. He writes, he does TV appearances. He's 1149 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 1: all around pundit and uh opinionated fellow. He's got a 1150 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: great piece up on the federal list. Why a good 1151 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 1: father prepares his sons for war, and we have Jesse 1152 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 1: now to tell us why that is. Jesse, thank you 1153 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 1: so much for joining Good talk to Are you down 1154 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: in Texas? Where are you right now? Coming to us Fry, 1155 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm down in Texas. I'm down in Houston. So I 1156 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 1: hope you Northeast people are freezing at tests up there 1157 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 1: because it's eighty degrees down here and follow me. Oh 1158 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 1: my gosh, I am refusing to believe that we are 1159 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 1: about to get hit. Almost I think to the day 1160 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: the first day of spring with the North easter. That 1161 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 1: just seems like it's too cruel. But enjoy, enjoy your 1162 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: your warmth down in Texas while we freeze up here. 1163 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: So Jesse, tell me about why good good son prepared, sorry, 1164 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,919 Speaker 1: a good father prepares his son for war, because that's 1165 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 1: why that's part of the reason why men were created 1166 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: on the men are the protectors of society, not of 1167 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 1: just this society, of any society, and power never disappears, 1168 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 1: it just changed his hands. So if we don't have 1169 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: strong men, then you get bullies and jerks who pick 1170 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: on the week. And that's why you're seeing a lot 1171 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 1: more of that in this society today because we're rating 1172 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 1: and raising a connald generation of boys, and we've told 1173 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 1: them they need to be sensitive and all these other 1174 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: things instead of telling them you need to be a man, 1175 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 1: you need to protect those weaker than you. And Jesse, 1176 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 1: you mentioned in your piece a journalist by the name 1177 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 1: of will likech I believe, who wrote about his experience 1178 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: shooting a twenty gauge, not even a twelve gauge, a 1179 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 1: twenty gage shotgun. Can you just give us a little 1180 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: bit of the backstory there, because this is quite this 1181 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 1: is quite a tale. Somebody sent me the tale. Apparently 1182 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 1: this Will has a series. I mean, he has an 1183 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 1: actual series about raising boys. He's got a couple of songs, 1184 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 1: and he tells the story about how horrible guns are 1185 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: and how scared he was. I guess when he was 1186 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 1: a boy, just a young boy. His dad just hand 1187 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 1: him at twenty gauge with no instructions, no help, no 1188 01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,920 Speaker 1: safety classes. The kid holds it up, a from his body, 1189 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 1: shoots off around into a field. The gun goes flying, 1190 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 1: the kids scared to death. That's good. It was the 1191 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 1: most embarrassing thing I have ever read in my life. 1192 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 1: As far as a fatherhood thing. That's not Will's problem. 1193 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 1: That's Will's father's problem. Every man should teach his son 1194 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: how to handle a weapon comfortably. You don't have to 1195 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,439 Speaker 1: raise the Navy seal. Teach your son how to handle 1196 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 1: himself with a weapon, hand with safely, make sure he 1197 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 1: respects it, make sure he knows how deadly it is, 1198 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 1: and that teach him to be fast and deadly with it, 1199 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: because he may have to do one that. I also 1200 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 1: had to note that in in this piece. And by 1201 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 1: the way, so Jesse, you now realize that it is 1202 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 1: incumbent upon you to write how to How to Raise 1203 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: a Son properly series, right, because we've got the progressive 1204 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,240 Speaker 1: left wing version from this fellow Mr Leitch, but now 1205 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,919 Speaker 1: we need the Jesse Kelly version in in total, I can't. 1206 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this piece is a great start, So I'm 1207 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: gonna I'm just gonna put some more work on your plate, Jesse, 1208 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 1: along with the podcast, and we're gonna keep hearing the 1209 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 1: freedom of demanding you launch in the next six months. 1210 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: But tell me, tell me more about will Light and 1211 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 1: this notion that he's upset that his children are sick 1212 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: or that his his boy specifically because they're white males, 1213 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: are succeeding, and how that's not good. He gets a 1214 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,320 Speaker 1: call into his teacher, to his son's teacher. Uh, and 1215 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 1: his wife's go in and sit down in front of 1216 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: his son's teacher and finds out that his kid is 1217 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 1: doing great in school, that his kid is brilliant and 1218 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 1: personable and his grades are great, and the teacher specifically 1219 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 1: said his son was a golden child, and was Will happy. Yes, 1220 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 1: But also, and he writes us down in the piece, 1221 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 1: a part of him was really concerned, does his son 1222 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 1: only have that success at the expense of the others. 1223 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 1: Haven't and I quote this, haven't white men already succeeded enough? 1224 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I cannot imagine how twisted up and tormented 1225 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,720 Speaker 1: you have to be as a father to get a 1226 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: glowing report about your son and be uneasy about it. 1227 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 1: That is a mixed up person in science, and he's 1228 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 1: gonna mixed up as boys if you pass down to 1229 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 1: we're speaking of Jesse Kelly's former marine and uh you 1230 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,719 Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter at Jesse Kelly d C Jesse. I. 1231 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 1: I really liked the part of your article in The 1232 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,719 Speaker 1: Federalist here where you went into it's not just about 1233 01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 1: don't allow yourself to be bullied. It's also teaching your 1234 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 1: kids don't allow anyone to bully somebody else. That that bullying. 1235 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,680 Speaker 1: You know, there's all these national anti bullying campaigns, and 1236 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 1: that's all fine and good. I think sometimes totally they're 1237 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 1: a little off as to how to prevent bullying. But 1238 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 1: bullying is very bad. But the real way to get 1239 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: it to stop is one, as you said, as a father, 1240 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 1: tell your kids, I better never hear about you bullying 1241 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,679 Speaker 1: somebody else who's weaker than you, because I will ring 1242 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 1: down the fury. Uh and too if you see, if 1243 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 1: you see anyone else who is being bullied you, as 1244 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 1: an honorable young man, it is incumbent upon you to 1245 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 1: step in and stop that bullying. It is everything that 1246 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 1: the people praying on the week are the worst people 1247 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 1: in the world, and part of every man's duty is 1248 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: to stop that, put a stop to that. And you're right. 1249 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,760 Speaker 1: My sons have been told several times you will never 1250 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 1: bully somebody, or you will not enjoy it, but you 1251 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 1: will stop a bully. And if you get in trouble 1252 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: in school or you get sent home, you get suspended 1253 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 1: for a couple of days. Guess what that's gonna be 1254 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: an enjoy a couple of enjoyable couple of days for you, 1255 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 1: because you're gonna be in no trouble in my household. 1256 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 1: A few months ago, my nine year old stop the 1257 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 1: bully in school was taken on another small kid. As 1258 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,639 Speaker 1: you can imagine, I'm huge and my son is huge, 1259 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: and he put a stop to it. I've never been 1260 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,320 Speaker 1: so proud of my dad on life, and that extends 1261 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 1: into adulthood too. That's not just the schoolyard camp campaign. 1262 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 1: The reason you see so much of this disgusting harassment 1263 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,000 Speaker 1: in Hollywood is because there were Matt No meds to 1264 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 1: stand there, no man to step in and tell Harvey 1265 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 1: Weinstein to sit down or he's gonna get touched in 1266 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 1: his face. Because all the anti bullying programs in the 1267 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 1: world are fine, that's good, but there is still no 1268 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 1: substitute for balling up your fists and smashing it into 1269 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,200 Speaker 1: somebody's nose. Jesse, what are the two or three most 1270 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 1: important things that you think that right now, every uh 1271 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 1: young man in America should hear from either father, older brother, guardian, 1272 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 1: whoever it is that is the the the prominent male 1273 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 1: figure in his life. What what are the two or 1274 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: three things you think everyone should be told now, given 1275 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,759 Speaker 1: the direction of the culture, which is obviously not really 1276 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:31,400 Speaker 1: handling this the way that it should. No whining life 1277 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 1: is unfair, and it is your duty to protect those 1278 01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 1: who are weaker than you. All right, I like it. 1279 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,600 Speaker 1: We can put that on a we just put that 1280 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 1: on a T shirt. Actually, Jesse Kelly was I'm with it, 1281 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 1: my friend, Jesse. Your piece and the Federalist is great. 1282 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: Everybody should check it out. It is all about how 1283 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 1: to raise a son who is quote prepared for war, 1284 01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 1: not just in the military sense, but in the being 1285 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: a good person who defends other sense. Jesse, anywhere you 1286 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 1: want to direct the folks listening to find your stuff 1287 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 1: for more what you're up to. Come find everything I 1288 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 1: do on Twitter at Jesse Kelly d C. Every article 1289 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 1: I do, everything I talk about everybody'll hit. Everything I 1290 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 1: do is all on there at Jesse Kelly DC. And 1291 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 1: I also have a Facebook page Jesse Kelly. If you 1292 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 1: start it should pop right up. All right. Fantastic, Jesse. 1293 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, sir for your service, for your time, 1294 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,599 Speaker 1: and for the drinks you're gonna buy me the next 1295 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 1: time you're New York City. I appreciate it. I got 1296 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 1: your brother. I'll be there all right, talk to you 1297 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 1: to Jesse. Thanks man. Alright, team, we are going to 1298 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 1: roll into a break here for the third hour of 1299 01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 1: the Box Sexton Show, which is going to talk a 1300 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 1: bit about China and how they're stealing our technology. You 1301 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:50,679 Speaker 1: want to hear it. He's back with you now because 1302 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck 1303 01:12:53,520 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 1: never stops. You are now entering the Tle Operations Center. 1304 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:06,280 Speaker 1: A programs must be kept strictly need to know Team 1305 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 1: Bucket is cleared and ready for the buck Brief. How 1306 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 1: China pushes the limits on military technology transfer is the 1307 01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,080 Speaker 1: title of the article in the Wall Street Journal. It 1308 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 1: should be how China is stealing us blind when it 1309 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 1: comes to our most critical national security technology are most 1310 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 1: critical commercial proprietary technology, and how this is not only 1311 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 1: being done on a scale that would infuriate most Americans 1312 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 1: if they actually knew what the heck was going on, 1313 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 1: but it's largely being done out in the open. Let 1314 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,640 Speaker 1: me explain. This was a piece by a memory of 1315 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,759 Speaker 1: Congress Bob Pittinger where he's talking about some of these 1316 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,120 Speaker 1: joint projects that are out there. I mentioned this to 1317 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:06,559 Speaker 1: you last week, how uh broad Colm was not allowed 1318 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 1: to take over quaal Calm. These are very high tech 1319 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 1: chip manufacturers and telecommunication companies because President Trump was just like, Nope, 1320 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:20,400 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. There are important national security implications for 1321 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 1: this technology. We can't let China be in control of 1322 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,719 Speaker 1: one of our most important, one of our most important 1323 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,679 Speaker 1: companies in that area. Technically, the company would have been 1324 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,679 Speaker 1: owned in Singapore, would have been acquired by a Singapore 1325 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 1: based company, but Singapore has deep ties to China. The 1326 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 1: Chinese have a lot of influence to bring to bear 1327 01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,600 Speaker 1: in Singapore, and if they had slowed things down or 1328 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:51,559 Speaker 1: Garne in another direction, that Chinese could indirectly get a 1329 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:56,640 Speaker 1: major advantage in the race for five G telecommunication technology. 1330 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,519 Speaker 1: This is important stuff, folks, and we think about it 1331 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,680 Speaker 1: in the data day as well. This would mean you 1332 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 1: could download an entire high definition movie in a second 1333 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 1: instead of twenty minutes on your WiFi. Think about what 1334 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,480 Speaker 1: that also means though, for the transfer of military technology 1335 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: and for just communication across the board. This is critical stuff, 1336 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,639 Speaker 1: and yet this somehow he's into major story. We also 1337 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 1: don't hear much about what the Chinese are really up 1338 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,599 Speaker 1: to in the open. Recently, we've gotten a better sense 1339 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 1: of what they're hacking. UH efforts have led to. We're 1340 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,759 Speaker 1: getting we're starting to learn more from our own government 1341 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 1: about just how intrusive Chinese hacking efforts have been into 1342 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,759 Speaker 1: our systems. But what about the things that are happening 1343 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 1: out in the open. This is from this Wall Street 1344 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,599 Speaker 1: journal piece. I wanted to share some of it with 1345 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,360 Speaker 1: you and then tell you that it's even worse than 1346 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Congressman Pittinger is saying here. But here's how he starts 1347 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: the piece. Quote, for years, the Chinese government has evaded 1348 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:06,720 Speaker 1: America's technology transfer safeguards and been allowed to vacuum up 1349 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 1: military applicable technologies from US companies. The Chinese have perfected 1350 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 1: the weaponization of investment as a legal means to achieve 1351 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:23,040 Speaker 1: this massive transfer of dual use technology, bolstering China's military modernization. 1352 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 1: If the US loses its military technology advantage over China 1353 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:33,879 Speaker 1: and other adversaries, it will one day cost American lives. 1354 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:39,759 Speaker 1: And he cites specifically the effort by Broadcom, Singapore based 1355 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:44,640 Speaker 1: company to take over Qualcom, which Trump shot down. But 1356 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 1: when you look at what has already happened, what is 1357 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 1: already going on here, you see that there are US 1358 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:58,840 Speaker 1: companies that are lobbying against any restrictions on their very 1359 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:04,879 Speaker 1: cozy relationships with Chinese based companies because they want access 1360 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,760 Speaker 1: to the markets. This is about the bottom line for 1361 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:13,959 Speaker 1: those companies. But in order to get access to the markets, 1362 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:19,480 Speaker 1: guess what, the Chinese Communist Party, which runs the economy 1363 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:24,640 Speaker 1: as well as the government, will insist on US companies 1364 01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 1: sharing some very sensitive dual use technology. This has happened 1365 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 1: in many cases as cited in this piece in the 1366 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,680 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. Here are just a few of them. 1367 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 1: Quote in general, Electric formed a joint venture with Aviation 1368 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,559 Speaker 1: Industry Corporation of China, one of China's premier state owned 1369 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 1: enterprises and the primary supplier of aircraft for China's military. 1370 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 1: Sharing cutting edge avionics technology, a v i C now 1371 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:59,000 Speaker 1: has an enhanced capability to produce high performance aircraft cockpit 1372 01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 1: controls and displays, as well as communications and navigation systems 1373 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:08,640 Speaker 1: which it can adapt for Chinese warplanes. So thanks to 1374 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 1: JEEZ venture in China, Chinese war fighters, specifically in this case, 1375 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:21,560 Speaker 1: aviators might have an advantage in the future. This is 1376 01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 1: very serious stuff, and I think part of the problem 1377 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,520 Speaker 1: here is that the left and academia in this country 1378 01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,240 Speaker 1: do not want us to know. They do not want 1379 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:36,040 Speaker 1: you to be familiar with the full extent of the 1380 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:41,720 Speaker 1: Soviet penetration of sensitive US government agencies. They're basically was 1381 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,200 Speaker 1: a Soviet agent in every single major US government agency 1382 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,320 Speaker 1: at the start of the Cold War and all the 1383 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 1: way up to those with direct access to the President. 1384 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,760 Speaker 1: The Soviet theft of nuclear technology because of the Rosenbergs 1385 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,880 Speaker 1: is somewhat well known, but how many Americans know that 1386 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 1: the penetrations of US avionics technology, for example, led to 1387 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 1: us to miscalculate what kind of advantage we would have 1388 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,840 Speaker 1: in the air. During the Korean War. We figured that 1389 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,640 Speaker 1: our first generation of jets, never mind even on some 1390 01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:20,639 Speaker 1: of our propeller planes, would dominate the skies in our 1391 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,919 Speaker 1: fight with North Korea. But guess what. The MiG fighters 1392 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,360 Speaker 1: they came up against were flying circles around the stuff 1393 01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,760 Speaker 1: we put up in the air. Because the Soviets had 1394 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:33,760 Speaker 1: stolen our best stuff and used it for their own purposes, 1395 01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:37,800 Speaker 1: they actually had an advantage. And therefore Soviet planes that 1396 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:42,479 Speaker 1: we went up against in the Korean War had an advantage. 1397 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 1: This is how the great game of nation states and 1398 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:50,719 Speaker 1: civilizations has played out for millennia, and we in this country, 1399 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:57,000 Speaker 1: I think, are blithely unbothered by what's going on here. 1400 01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 1: Let's time for all of us to wake up on 1401 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 1: this one. This is where the important I've got more 1402 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 1: for you from this Wall Street Journal piece quote in 1403 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:09,040 Speaker 1: ten Ge formed a joint venture with another Chinese company 1404 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 1: handing over advanced battery technology that could have battlefield applications 1405 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,320 Speaker 1: such as powering heavy ground vehicles. The same year, General 1406 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,680 Speaker 1: Electric formed a partnership with Chinese government affiliated Huawei to 1407 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 1: develop cloud based industrial applications for the Internet of Things. 1408 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,360 Speaker 1: This arrangement could result in long term cyber vulnerabilities for 1409 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,639 Speaker 1: the US, in part because, like so many so called 1410 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,599 Speaker 1: private companies in China, Huawei is beholden to the Chinese 1411 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 1: Communist Party and is functionally an arm of the Chinese government. 1412 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 1: Just like I said. Likewise, IBM has systematically transferred high 1413 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:52,320 Speaker 1: and computing technology to China. By according to a working 1414 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,599 Speaker 1: group of experts in the National Security Agency and Energy Department, 1415 01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,799 Speaker 1: China had attained a near peer status with the US 1416 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:05,759 Speaker 1: in high performance computing. Without a doubt, IBMS technology transfers 1417 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:10,880 Speaker 1: have contributed to China's enhanced high performance computing capabilities. This 1418 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:15,520 Speaker 1: will lead to a severe compromise of our national security 1419 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,959 Speaker 1: as we have a loss of leadership and high performance 1420 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:22,280 Speaker 1: computing end quote I mean, and there's even more in 1421 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,400 Speaker 1: IBM formed a joint venture with a Chinese company in spur, 1422 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,719 Speaker 1: handing over the capability to manufacture its own computer servers. 1423 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 1: That same year, IBM established a partnership with the state 1424 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 1: owned China Telecom, agreeing to hand over cloud computing technology. Folks, 1425 01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,519 Speaker 1: We have US based companies that are handing over the 1426 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,800 Speaker 1: keys to the store, and yeah, they're doing it because 1427 01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 1: they want access to the Chinese markets. They're just looking 1428 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 1: at their bottom line. But there are clear dual use 1429 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,519 Speaker 1: applications here, and this is the kind of technology that 1430 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,839 Speaker 1: if we actually go to war with China in the future, 1431 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 1: could be a major problem for us. Think about a 1432 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,160 Speaker 1: world in which China actually has the technological advantage over 1433 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 1: us militarily. What if they have the best, the fastest, 1434 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 1: the smartest in planes, submarines, technology of all kinds that's 1435 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,200 Speaker 1: applicable in the battlefield. That's what we are heading toward 1436 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 1: right now. If we don't get a handle on this, 1437 01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 1: there's only so much our R and D can do 1438 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 1: to keep us ahead of China if China can keep 1439 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:37,040 Speaker 1: stealing our research and development. And yet everyone's kind of 1440 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,760 Speaker 1: asleep on this one for the most part. We all 1441 01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:44,559 Speaker 1: just want cheap flat screen televisions and all kinds of 1442 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 1: junks sent over in huge quantities for us to purchase 1443 01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 1: at the cheapest possible price, and companies like General Electric 1444 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:56,679 Speaker 1: and IBM are just happy to pad their bottom line. 1445 01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,679 Speaker 1: They don't see or don't care to see the national 1446 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,960 Speaker 1: secure the implications of this. But when we faced off 1447 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:09,559 Speaker 1: against our most recent near peer global competitor, the Soviet Union, 1448 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,519 Speaker 1: it was our technological advantage that was among the most 1449 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 1: important things We had to keep them in check. Eventually, 1450 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,439 Speaker 1: our economy ran them into the ground, but they were 1451 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,240 Speaker 1: much closer to us militarily than they should have been 1452 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,080 Speaker 1: at numerous points in the Cold War. Because of all 1453 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:31,479 Speaker 1: this stuff. The Soviets stole Chinese how the second biggest 1454 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 1: economy in the world, and it's growing very rapidly. They 1455 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:38,040 Speaker 1: have embraced a market mentality for the purposes of wealth 1456 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:42,240 Speaker 1: creation and production. It's just state controlled, but their economy 1457 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,920 Speaker 1: is not going to creater and collapse into nothing. They 1458 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,599 Speaker 1: are looking to supplant us as the most powerful nation 1459 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:53,360 Speaker 1: on earth, and they're stealing some of our most valuable 1460 01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,920 Speaker 1: intellectual property in that pursuit. And not only that, we 1461 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 1: have US companies that are handing it over to them. 1462 01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 1: The Trump administration needs to take action here. I'll follow 1463 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 1: up more on there's a bill making its way through 1464 01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,760 Speaker 1: Congress that will discuss In fact, I'll try to see 1465 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:10,320 Speaker 1: if you get one of the co authors, maybe even 1466 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,559 Speaker 1: the author of this piece in the Wall Street Journalill 1467 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 1: come on and talk. I've got more team, stay with me. 1468 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,360 Speaker 1: It was only a matter of time before it was 1469 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:35,439 Speaker 1: gonna happen, and now it has. The first person on 1470 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:41,799 Speaker 1: record has been killed by a self driving or autonomous vehicle. 1471 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:46,679 Speaker 1: This happened in Arizona, and it is the first time. 1472 01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 1: It will not be the last time. But it does 1473 01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:54,200 Speaker 1: have some implications I think for where all this is heading, 1474 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,040 Speaker 1: where all this self driving phenomenon is gonna go. Uh. 1475 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,320 Speaker 1: And first of all, it's just it's tragic, you imagine. 1476 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there was somebody behind the wheel of this 1477 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 1: uber self driving car in Arizona, but they put it 1478 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:12,280 Speaker 1: on autopilot essentially, and it struck a woman in a crosswalk. 1479 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Now here's what I've known all along about this. People 1480 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,920 Speaker 1: say that there are roughly what, gosh, I don't even know, 1481 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,719 Speaker 1: thirty thousand. I think auto fatality is a year something 1482 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:30,559 Speaker 1: like that, something in that neighborhood. Maybe it's less now 1483 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,400 Speaker 1: I think that might have been the all time high. Um. 1484 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:38,120 Speaker 1: But the thing about those fatalities is that they are 1485 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 1: spread out among Oh wow, forty forty thousand people died 1486 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,160 Speaker 1: in motorbile vehicle accidents. I thought it was thirty thousands. 1487 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 1: It's even more than I thought. But a vast majority 1488 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:55,400 Speaker 1: people don't often talk about this vast majority of vehicular 1489 01:25:55,439 --> 01:26:01,719 Speaker 1: fatalities involve driver error, which is not surprising. Um In 1490 01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,720 Speaker 1: in many cases I should actually check and see what 1491 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,360 Speaker 1: the stats are. I think it's just people that make 1492 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,519 Speaker 1: a mistake, much more so than it is people who 1493 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,800 Speaker 1: are impaired or who are doing anything illegal necessarily during 1494 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, people forget to look one way and you 1495 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,479 Speaker 1: know they go through the light or things like that 1496 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,720 Speaker 1: are are obviously a large portion I don't know what 1497 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,800 Speaker 1: the what the percentages are, but a large portion of 1498 01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 1: auti fatalities. But anytime a person dies in a car crash. 1499 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:28,880 Speaker 1: And it's one thing that here in New York City 1500 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,559 Speaker 1: growing up was was different than it was in other 1501 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 1: places around the country. I remember when I got to college, 1502 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,479 Speaker 1: I noticed how friends of mine, all of my friends, 1503 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 1: pretty much to a person, had at least one of 1504 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,599 Speaker 1: their friends died in a car accident in high school. 1505 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,559 Speaker 1: I mean a high school aged person that they knew 1506 01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,120 Speaker 1: had died in a car accident. At worst. Because I'm 1507 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,439 Speaker 1: from New York City, none of us even were driving. 1508 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 1: Really maybe some of us. I drove senior year of 1509 01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,479 Speaker 1: high school, but that just wasn't a problem for for 1510 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 1: us to be worried about. We had we had other 1511 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:06,400 Speaker 1: things to worry about. But anyway, the overwhelming number of 1512 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:10,920 Speaker 1: cases of a driver of fatalities a driver air but 1513 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,920 Speaker 1: in all those forty thousand or so deaths, the liability 1514 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:19,920 Speaker 1: for it is spread around to the individuals involved in 1515 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,479 Speaker 1: the crash, not the car company. Al Right, So if 1516 01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 1: you're in a a Ford Fiesta and you crash into 1517 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,920 Speaker 1: somebody who's in a Prius and there's a fatality in 1518 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,639 Speaker 1: that other car, that's something that you and your insurance 1519 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,719 Speaker 1: companies are dealing with, but it's not something that falls 1520 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:43,000 Speaker 1: squarely on the shoulders of the manufacturer. I don't know 1521 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,760 Speaker 1: how they're going to handle this from an insurance standpoint. 1522 01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure there probably are ways, which is why they're 1523 01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:53,080 Speaker 1: pursuing this. But if any time there's a autonomous vehicular 1524 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:57,479 Speaker 1: accident that ends in a fatality, it ends up being 1525 01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,360 Speaker 1: the company's fault, the company can be sued. I don't 1526 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,519 Speaker 1: see how you have a situation that doesn't essentially turn 1527 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,599 Speaker 1: into the equivalent of one long running class action lawsuit 1528 01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:10,400 Speaker 1: against Uber or against whichever company wins this race for 1529 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,920 Speaker 1: autonomous driving dominance. And I also know that there are 1530 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:15,559 Speaker 1: a lot of people that are gonna that are gonna 1531 01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,639 Speaker 1: push back against having all of the different vehicles out 1532 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:25,000 Speaker 1: there that are machine driven, that are run by algorithms, 1533 01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,639 Speaker 1: that are run by artificial intelligence. People like to drive. 1534 01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,639 Speaker 1: Everyone in my family, all the males in my family, 1535 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:39,600 Speaker 1: I should say, really like driving a lot. I do not. 1536 01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it, but I don't enjoy it. Like 1537 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,120 Speaker 1: whenever someone says, hey, I'll drive you, I'm always like, yeah, 1538 01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,639 Speaker 1: that sounds good, go ahead. You know. I'm not somebody 1539 01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,559 Speaker 1: who fights for the steering row. I just don't really care. 1540 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,799 Speaker 1: I'm also someone who now has avoided I haven't rented 1541 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 1: a car in in years because I would just prefer 1542 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,559 Speaker 1: to Uber wherever I am, I have no entry. I've 1543 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,880 Speaker 1: had some of the most negative consumer experiences of my 1544 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 1: life have involved car companies. I hate the whole thing. 1545 01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,040 Speaker 1: I hate the hard sell for the bogus additional insurance, 1546 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,960 Speaker 1: all the little extras they try to throw on. You know, 1547 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,720 Speaker 1: here's your little garment GPS, and if you lose it, 1548 01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,439 Speaker 1: it's like a thousand dollars or some I mean the 1549 01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 1: whole thing, right, I hate all that stuff. So I'm 1550 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,639 Speaker 1: a big Uber proponent. I just don't know how Google Uber. 1551 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,280 Speaker 1: This is a massive technology race that's going on right now. 1552 01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how they deal with the issue of 1553 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,960 Speaker 1: the liability of if you are relying on computers to 1554 01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,840 Speaker 1: do this, you know, if you're relying on computers to 1555 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:41,639 Speaker 1: be driving vehicles, unless you can dramatically drop down the number, 1556 01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:43,519 Speaker 1: which is part of the argument. I mean, there's a 1557 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,440 Speaker 1: lot of interesting philosophical components here, but unless you dramatically 1558 01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:52,880 Speaker 1: drive down the number of overall fatalities, it seems to 1559 01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,280 Speaker 1: me that you have a big problem of how do 1560 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,360 Speaker 1: we pay for all of the liability that we have 1561 01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,800 Speaker 1: as a result of this? You know, computers are gonna fail, 1562 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:03,840 Speaker 1: and then there's just another And this is not a 1563 01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:08,680 Speaker 1: technology based argument, um, And we're gonna be switching here 1564 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:12,240 Speaker 1: into a discussion of a movie that I saw over 1565 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,920 Speaker 1: the weekend in a few minutes, The Shape of Water. 1566 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,840 Speaker 1: It was terrible, but I'll give you more than that. 1567 01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:24,439 Speaker 1: But uh, I get a little nervous even with things 1568 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:28,960 Speaker 1: like elevators. Having been stuck in my fair share of elevators, 1569 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,160 Speaker 1: and I just hate that sense of loss of control. 1570 01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Even if someone shows me the statistics about driving a 1571 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,800 Speaker 1: car or someone else driving me in a car, that 1572 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,519 Speaker 1: it's much less safe than what the autonomous vehicles will 1573 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,920 Speaker 1: be able to to accomplish in in a few short years. 1574 01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:46,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a part of all of us, that 1575 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,040 Speaker 1: there's a part of us as human beings that just 1576 01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,920 Speaker 1: want to be able to have some say, some control 1577 01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:56,280 Speaker 1: over are well, whether we live or die in this case. 1578 01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:58,800 Speaker 1: And even if the technology is better, it's gonna take 1579 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,599 Speaker 1: a while for us to switch about anyways. Autonomous vehicle 1580 01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,479 Speaker 1: as a subject. We'll get into more going forward, but 1581 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,080 Speaker 1: first fatality and uh, it's gonna slow this whole process 1582 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,160 Speaker 1: down a bit, and very sad. We're gonna run to 1583 01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:23,000 Speaker 1: a quick break team. We'll be right back. He's back 1584 01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,439 Speaker 1: with you now, because when it comes to the fight 1585 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:29,360 Speaker 1: for truth, the fuck never stops. This may very well 1586 01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,880 Speaker 1: be the most sensitive asset ever to be housed in 1587 01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:39,160 Speaker 1: this facility. You may think that thing looks human, stands 1588 01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,040 Speaker 1: on two legs, right, but we're created in the Lord. 1589 01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,360 Speaker 1: J You don't think that's what the Lord looks like. 1590 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:52,560 Speaker 1: This creature is intelligent, capable of language, of understanding emotions. 1591 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,479 Speaker 1: When he looks at me, he doesn't know how I 1592 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:13,320 Speaker 1: am incomplete he sees me. I. That was from the 1593 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 1: trailer for the Shape of Water, which won the Oscar 1594 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:22,240 Speaker 1: for Best Picture. I felt like I was obligated on 1595 01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,920 Speaker 1: Friday to watch this movie. Plus MS Molly wanted to 1596 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,320 Speaker 1: check it out, and I said, okay, fine, And I 1597 01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:32,200 Speaker 1: remember thinking to myself, how bad could it really be? 1598 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:38,000 Speaker 1: It won the best Picture for the entire year. Oh boy, 1599 01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,760 Speaker 1: I was wrong. It was even worse than I expected. 1600 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:47,240 Speaker 1: The Shape of Water is about a woman who has 1601 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:53,599 Speaker 1: a sexual relationship with an aquarium pet. I'm not even 1602 01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,559 Speaker 1: going to get too far into a criticism of the 1603 01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:01,280 Speaker 1: movie being kind of slow, the dialogue being lackluster, and 1604 01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,559 Speaker 1: all the rest of it, the whole thing being trite. 1605 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:08,679 Speaker 1: I'm actually more annoyed about the messaging in this film 1606 01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:15,320 Speaker 1: and also the completely predictable lens that it looks at 1607 01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:21,200 Speaker 1: this situation that has created this this fantasy. But on 1608 01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 1: the the biggest charge what I just said that this 1609 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:29,320 Speaker 1: is about a woman who has a romantic relationship, has 1610 01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:34,640 Speaker 1: a love affair with an aquarium pet. For those who 1611 01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,680 Speaker 1: would say, oh, Buck, that's not fair. I say, at 1612 01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,840 Speaker 1: what point does it become clear? In this movie, which 1613 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:45,719 Speaker 1: is about essentially the creature from the Blue Lagoon or whatever, 1614 01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:49,200 Speaker 1: or the Deep Lagoon, whatever, that monster creature is gets 1615 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:53,880 Speaker 1: captured by some government scientists and then the experiment on it. 1616 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:57,640 Speaker 1: And this woman is cleaning up the room where they 1617 01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,320 Speaker 1: keep the monster, not exactly the tightest secure early in 1618 01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,200 Speaker 1: the world, and then she decides that she really likes 1619 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:07,400 Speaker 1: the sea monster, and they start getting kind of playful. 1620 01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,760 Speaker 1: Then she brings it home, plops it in her bathtub, 1621 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:16,360 Speaker 1: and proceeds to get amorous. I will say, and by 1622 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,599 Speaker 1: the way, you see a good bit of that in 1623 01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:23,120 Speaker 1: this movie that won the Academy Award for Best Picture. Now, 1624 01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:27,559 Speaker 1: I've seen a couple of different methods of trying to 1625 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:33,040 Speaker 1: explain this away. I think it is bizarro on many levels, 1626 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:37,679 Speaker 1: and and I think it is quite weird. Um, I'm 1627 01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,960 Speaker 1: not okay with the whole thing. But people say, Buck, 1628 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,439 Speaker 1: look at other fairy tales, even the great fairy tales 1629 01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,320 Speaker 1: we were told as children, right, the princess who kisses 1630 01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:51,519 Speaker 1: the frog. Yeah, but the frog turns into a human being. 1631 01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,639 Speaker 1: That's the whole point. It's actually supposed to be a human. 1632 01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,439 Speaker 1: People say, oh buck, what about Beauty and the beast. 1633 01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's like she's with some kind of a 1634 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:05,160 Speaker 1: large wolf like creature. It's actually human who has a 1635 01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:09,320 Speaker 1: spell on him. All right, that's different. This sea monster 1636 01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:13,120 Speaker 1: that the woman in the shape the shape of water 1637 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:18,160 Speaker 1: falls in love with, at no point becomes a human being, 1638 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:22,639 Speaker 1: is actually a human being, is even partially a human being. 1639 01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:26,559 Speaker 1: It's a fish from what we can tell. And then 1640 01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,320 Speaker 1: I know the response would be well backed. But it 1641 01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:35,400 Speaker 1: does sign language and it understands her, the protagonist, so well. 1642 01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:39,919 Speaker 1: And to that, I would say, chimpanzees can do sign language, 1643 01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:44,360 Speaker 1: in fact, can do it quite well. And yes, dogs 1644 01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:49,240 Speaker 1: can understand emotion quite well. And while you know, I'm 1645 01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:54,479 Speaker 1: quite fond of dogs, they are not human beings. And 1646 01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:58,639 Speaker 1: I think that the messaging in this movie is lame 1647 01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,559 Speaker 1: as well as a bit creepy. Never mind the fact 1648 01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:05,960 Speaker 1: that who who's the bad guy? Oh, of course a 1649 01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,719 Speaker 1: they might as well have had him. He's this white, 1650 01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,840 Speaker 1: square jawed government guy. He might as well have had 1651 01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,599 Speaker 1: a big maga hat on. For the entirety of the movie, 1652 01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,919 Speaker 1: even though it takes place, I guess in the late fifties. 1653 01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,759 Speaker 1: But he's all about you know, the government and God 1654 01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:30,440 Speaker 1: and America at and he's the worst. He is an unfeeling, sadistic, 1655 01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,479 Speaker 1: terrible piece of trash. And everyone else in the movie 1656 01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:37,400 Speaker 1: that you might identify as being somewhat of a liberal, 1657 01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:43,040 Speaker 1: even the communist traitor, the guy who's a double agent 1658 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:48,720 Speaker 1: for the Soviets, right, he betrays his American colleagues. He's 1659 01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:53,360 Speaker 1: pretending to be someone he's not. Even he has some 1660 01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,639 Speaker 1: salvation the movie because well, I don't want to give 1661 01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,720 Speaker 1: it all away in case you want to watch it, 1662 01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:05,400 Speaker 1: but every one has redeeming characteristics and qualities except for 1663 01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:11,800 Speaker 1: the white male Christian government you know FBI guy. Basically, 1664 01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:14,120 Speaker 1: this is what I always have to laugh about. The 1665 01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:18,040 Speaker 1: media hates white males and the FBI by and large, 1666 01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, they really are against them for a whole 1667 01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,760 Speaker 1: bunch of reasons, except for any white males of the 1668 01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,519 Speaker 1: FBI that are useful in bashing Trump or or who 1669 01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,840 Speaker 1: are trying to take the Trump presidency down. But but 1670 01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:34,320 Speaker 1: the Shape of Water is just it was a really 1671 01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,599 Speaker 1: bad movie. I mean, they should rename it the Shape 1672 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,360 Speaker 1: of Goose Turd, because that's what it was that at one. 1673 01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,720 Speaker 1: Best picture is just more evidence of what I've been 1674 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,880 Speaker 1: saying for some time, which is that the movie industry 1675 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,680 Speaker 1: is in a really weak spot these days. TV is 1676 01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:54,879 Speaker 1: doing well overall, and I think it's going to continue 1677 01:37:54,880 --> 01:38:00,960 Speaker 1: on this path. But the Shape of Water, it's just hollow. 1678 01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:07,840 Speaker 1: The whole thing. It is unredeeming in in every way. Uh. 1679 01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,800 Speaker 1: And I just couldn't believe it that that this is 1680 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,240 Speaker 1: what This is not just a movie that I'm trashing, folks. 1681 01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,040 Speaker 1: This is supposed to be the collective wisdom of Hollywood 1682 01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:18,639 Speaker 1: is what is the best movie of Like I said, 1683 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:38,439 Speaker 1: Big Goose, Turt, We'll be right back. I like to 1684 01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:42,679 Speaker 1: think of myself as an innovator. Team there are times 1685 01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,320 Speaker 1: when I have to stop and give myself a little 1686 01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:50,960 Speaker 1: bit of credit for being a trendsetter or perhaps a 1687 01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:56,040 Speaker 1: pioneer of style, at least when it comes to food 1688 01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:01,320 Speaker 1: and eating of meat. So I realized this because I 1689 01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:05,440 Speaker 1: made a ribby for Ms. Molly and I on Friday, 1690 01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:07,720 Speaker 1: and I will tell you that it was seared perfectly 1691 01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:13,160 Speaker 1: and it was amazing. The dollar cast iron pan that 1692 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,920 Speaker 1: I got myself was one of the better investments I 1693 01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:21,240 Speaker 1: can remember making in recent years. But the next day, 1694 01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,400 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, you know, what is one to 1695 01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:29,960 Speaker 1: do with leftover ribby? Oh, that's right, I'm going to 1696 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:34,400 Speaker 1: make steak and eggs. That was also amazing, by the way, 1697 01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,680 Speaker 1: But then I thought to myself, what am I going 1698 01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:40,479 Speaker 1: to do with some of that delicious thick cut bacon 1699 01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,080 Speaker 1: that I have in my fridge that I specifically got 1700 01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,080 Speaker 1: so that I could cook it to absolute perfection on 1701 01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:51,479 Speaker 1: Saturday and have a hashtag Buck brunch. Why is it 1702 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:55,080 Speaker 1: just steaking eggs, my friends, when it could be steak 1703 01:39:55,840 --> 01:40:02,479 Speaker 1: and eggs and bacon. Ah. Indeed, so I went with 1704 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:06,799 Speaker 1: all three the trifecta steak, eggs, and bacon for brunch 1705 01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:10,280 Speaker 1: on Saturday. And this is what everyone should do going forward. 1706 01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:12,479 Speaker 1: There's no need to cut out the bacon just because 1707 01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:15,920 Speaker 1: you're having the steak. Maybe just limit yourself to a 1708 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:20,120 Speaker 1: pounder sew. And with that, I would like to get 1709 01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:33,479 Speaker 1: into some roll call. Team Buck. It's time for roll call, 1710 01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:40,320 Speaker 1: and remember, if you want to be a part of 1711 01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:43,840 Speaker 1: roll call, you can send us a message on Facebook 1712 01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:48,000 Speaker 1: at facebook dot com, slash Buck Sexton or official Team 1713 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,759 Speaker 1: Buck at gmail dot com. If you'd like to send 1714 01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,559 Speaker 1: an email We are also thinking about setting up a 1715 01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:58,360 Speaker 1: special voicemail that we would be able to have recording 1716 01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,559 Speaker 1: when we're not on air, and then those of you 1717 01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,760 Speaker 1: who have a voice message you'd like to leave so 1718 01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:05,760 Speaker 1: that the rest of the team can hear it, we 1719 01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,559 Speaker 1: could do that. So if you couldn't listen live, for example, 1720 01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:12,960 Speaker 1: if you happen to be one of our wonderful podcast listeners, 1721 01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:17,360 Speaker 1: well then we very much could put your audio on 1722 01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:21,160 Speaker 1: air when we do our next live show. First up 1723 01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:26,920 Speaker 1: on roll Call is Roger. He writes, Buck just heard 1724 01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:32,080 Speaker 1: the podcast uh from the Friday show about Bob Dylan 1725 01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:35,360 Speaker 1: and gurgling with Gergen. It made me laugh out loud. 1726 01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:39,479 Speaker 1: No easy task, shields Hie. Thank you very much. Roger 1727 01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:45,160 Speaker 1: with Gergan and Bob Dylan also make me laugh. Monica 1728 01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:48,599 Speaker 1: next up here, she writes, Uh, this is the husband 1729 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:53,360 Speaker 1: of Monica and I ate these in Belfast. You asked 1730 01:41:53,800 --> 01:42:00,880 Speaker 1: was their Irish ethnic food? Here it is Shepherd's pie. Okay, 1731 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,400 Speaker 1: that's I'll take it. Not exactly something that's gonna get 1732 01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,559 Speaker 1: me too excited in the world of culinary excellence, but 1733 01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:12,040 Speaker 1: Shepherd's pie is indeed. Is it Irish thrower? Is it English? Oh? 1734 01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:13,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to get the middle of that one. 1735 01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:19,040 Speaker 1: Let's get to Erica, and she writes, I really listened 1736 01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,600 Speaker 1: to Thursday's program to get the name of the Progressive 1737 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:25,400 Speaker 1: Hostility study. Since none of my Google searches found it, 1738 01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,880 Speaker 1: I tried again to conduct the exact title and nothing. 1739 01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:34,840 Speaker 1: Tried Duck duck go, and voila, there was the study. Well, Erica, 1740 01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:36,559 Speaker 1: I don't know about this duck duck go, but maybe 1741 01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,080 Speaker 1: it's better for some thing than Google. I'll have to 1742 01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,760 Speaker 1: check it out. But the piece that I mentioned was 1743 01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:45,320 Speaker 1: on quillette dot com and it was or I went 1744 01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,559 Speaker 1: into some depth about it and just mentioned it, and 1745 01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:54,439 Speaker 1: it was the Psychology of Progressive Hostility. Next up here, 1746 01:42:54,800 --> 01:43:00,479 Speaker 1: Joey Annette, wow Buck, you're right, Sessions did fire me, Cabe. 1747 01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:03,439 Speaker 1: Jeff is a little late to the party, but he 1748 01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:06,720 Speaker 1: finally showed up with a haymaker. Now he'll just un 1749 01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:10,519 Speaker 1: recuse himself and fire Muller and stop this stupid waste 1750 01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,479 Speaker 1: of taxpayer money masquerading as an investigation. Shields high and 1751 01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,360 Speaker 1: keep up the good work. Well, Joey in Annette, I 1752 01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,639 Speaker 1: will say that I not only called the firing on radio, 1753 01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:24,639 Speaker 1: I also went out there on Outnumbered on Fox News 1754 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:28,000 Speaker 1: on Friday and said, Hey, guess what, there's gonna be 1755 01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:32,439 Speaker 1: a firing of McCabe And uh, I was correct, So 1756 01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,879 Speaker 1: thank you for noting that I was in fact correct. 1757 01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:43,920 Speaker 1: Next up here, hold on one second, is Philip, and 1758 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:48,200 Speaker 1: he writes, Hey, man, I'm sure you've probably been told already, 1759 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:54,519 Speaker 1: but producer Mike was incorrect about the population of Russia. Yes, Philip, Uh, 1760 01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,559 Speaker 1: I was in fact basically correct. I said a hundred 1761 01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,719 Speaker 1: and twenty million. The population of Russia's actually a hundred 1762 01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,640 Speaker 1: and forty million. Producer Mike on Friday told me it 1763 01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,000 Speaker 1: was seventy million based on a quick Google search. Do 1764 01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:12,240 Speaker 1: not worry. We will shortly assign him a code read Dick. 1765 01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,680 Speaker 1: Once again, this goes to my theory that even when 1766 01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:20,640 Speaker 1: I think I might be wrong, I'm usually right. Uh 1767 01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:25,280 Speaker 1: let's see, Dale, He writes, really enjoyed your sidebar the 1768 01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,599 Speaker 1: other evening about missed a game series near and dear 1769 01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:31,760 Speaker 1: to my heart, So Buck, which brother did you pick 1770 01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:35,439 Speaker 1: at the end of the original game, Dale, I cannot 1771 01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,639 Speaker 1: tell a lie. I didn't get that far and missed 1772 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:39,360 Speaker 1: because I was really young when I was playing it, 1773 01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:43,200 Speaker 1: and some of those puzzles may have stumped me, but 1774 01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,320 Speaker 1: miss was. I remember going into computer stores in the 1775 01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:51,719 Speaker 1: early days of home PCs, or it is of PCs 1776 01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:55,760 Speaker 1: home PC would be repetitive, and there were missed. There 1777 01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,920 Speaker 1: were copies of missed everywhere. I also remember really not 1778 01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,680 Speaker 1: liking Mac computer uters for a while because all of 1779 01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:06,200 Speaker 1: the video games were for PC windows, and if you 1780 01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:10,360 Speaker 1: wanted good games, Mac was not the choice for you. 1781 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,800 Speaker 1: And then later on people pretty much stopped using their 1782 01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,599 Speaker 1: computers for games. I feel like, in general at all 1783 01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:21,120 Speaker 1: went to PlayStations and these other consoles with the big 1784 01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:24,760 Speaker 1: flat screen TVs. But I did not get very far 1785 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,360 Speaker 1: in missed. I must be honest with you. Now, we've 1786 01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:32,640 Speaker 1: got Pablo who writes listening to your show recently, and 1787 01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:36,040 Speaker 1: you were talking about visiting Vietnam. We're heading there a 1788 01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:39,639 Speaker 1: week from Monday and are super pumped. We're doing Hannoy 1789 01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:43,520 Speaker 1: for a few days in a Cinnamon Cathedral UH hotel 1790 01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,360 Speaker 1: and then onto how Long Bay for a few nights. 1791 01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:49,840 Speaker 1: We're disappointed to miss h some of the stuff, but 1792 01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:53,000 Speaker 1: pumping nonetheless. A Pablo, I think you're gonna have a 1793 01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,280 Speaker 1: great time. I love the food. I think it's I 1794 01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,760 Speaker 1: just think it's a really interesting place and very very 1795 01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:02,000 Speaker 1: different from other cultures and other countries around the world. 1796 01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,160 Speaker 1: But have a great time and let us know what 1797 01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,960 Speaker 1: you think. And for those of you who asked what 1798 01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:11,240 Speaker 1: cuisine I'd recommend to start with, I mentioned Foe, which 1799 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,519 Speaker 1: is the most famous, which you usually spelled p h o, 1800 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,040 Speaker 1: which is sliced beef in a kind of soup slash 1801 01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:21,519 Speaker 1: noodle stew. But the other thing that I really love 1802 01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:25,840 Speaker 1: is a rice pancake called a band saw, So if 1803 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:27,760 Speaker 1: you can get that, I would say that's a very 1804 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:31,000 Speaker 1: good place to start. And Boon Cha, which is a 1805 01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:34,160 Speaker 1: noodle dish, is also really excellent. By the way, one 1806 01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,080 Speaker 1: of the reasons I like this food so much, Vietnamese 1807 01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:38,880 Speaker 1: food is that it doesn't use that much soy sauce, 1808 01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:41,840 Speaker 1: so as a ciliac, I can eat most things on 1809 01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:45,560 Speaker 1: the menu. It uses mostly rice instead of flower noodles, 1810 01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:49,680 Speaker 1: so that's just for full disclosure. It's one of the 1811 01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:54,320 Speaker 1: only cuisines that is a an ethnic cuisine that is 1812 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:58,080 Speaker 1: really easy for people who are gluten intolerant to enjoy. 1813 01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:02,040 Speaker 1: William is up next to here, He writes, quit crying 1814 01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:05,639 Speaker 1: about being old. I started Tae Kwondo at forty four, 1815 01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:08,759 Speaker 1: after twenty years of army service and over a thousand 1816 01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:12,599 Speaker 1: days in Iraq, and five kids. The five kids are 1817 01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:16,960 Speaker 1: much more challenging than convoy security. William, You're right, man, 1818 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:19,880 Speaker 1: I uh, I shouldn't be given any I shouldn't be 1819 01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:22,439 Speaker 1: complained at all. I don't know how all you folks 1820 01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,680 Speaker 1: out there who are parents, I don't know how you 1821 01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:29,920 Speaker 1: do it. Uh. Kimberly is next up here, she writes, Buck, 1822 01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:35,280 Speaker 1: I love your show, O S S Team Buck, North Carolina. Well, 1823 01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:38,439 Speaker 1: thank you very much, Kimberly, I appreciate it. Next one 1824 01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:42,760 Speaker 1: here in roll Call is Christie. She writes, I think 1825 01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:45,880 Speaker 1: there's at least one movie in which Colin Farrell does 1826 01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:49,960 Speaker 1: not suck. He plays a hit man alongside a fellow 1827 01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:55,720 Speaker 1: brilliant actor in uh In in Bruges. Interesting film and 1828 01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,200 Speaker 1: beautiful scenery. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend. 1829 01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,320 Speaker 1: Happy St. Patrick's Day, and yeah us you're allowed to say, 1830 01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:05,320 Speaker 1: y'all we don't mind, Christie, O S S. Member, Well, 1831 01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Christie. Hope y'all have a great 1832 01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's two down in Uh? Where were you? OSS member? 1833 01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:17,320 Speaker 1: From where? I'm not clear she was from the South, 1834 01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:21,040 Speaker 1: between which we know Christie. I haven't seen in Bruges, 1835 01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,479 Speaker 1: but I have heard good things, so maybe I'll add 1836 01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:26,799 Speaker 1: that to my now very rapidly expanding list of shows 1837 01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,679 Speaker 1: that I must check out. So um, with that team, 1838 01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,800 Speaker 1: I am going to close up shop here in the 1839 01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,479 Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt for the day. Thank you always for being 1840 01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,519 Speaker 1: with me. Please uh spread the word about what we 1841 01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:43,120 Speaker 1: do here and see you tomorrow shield Hie