1 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: But you're a guest in my home. 3 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests, 4 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: you're our presences. Presents enough. I already had too much stuff, 5 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: So how did you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. I 7 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: hope I'm reaching you at a good time. I hope 8 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: this is an okay time for both of us. The 9 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: podcast continue whether I like it or not. Whether you 10 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: like it or not, you can pause it, you can 11 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: do whatever you want. This is your first time listening 12 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: to the show. Good luck following along. I feel like 13 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: I've already lost everyone. I'm reporting live from a new haircut, 14 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: so I'm just all over the place. What else is happening. 15 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: We're not going to get into what the other things 16 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: I've seen today. Let's get into the podcast. Today's guest 17 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: is absolutely incredible. It's Ali Machy Ali. Welcome to. I said, 18 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: no gifts. 19 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: Hello, thank you for saying my name right. 20 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: What do people usually do? Mackie Mackie, Mackie feels so 21 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: feels very Midwest? 22 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: Thank you? 23 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 4: Yes, you're right about that. I would also think Mackie 24 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 4: would be m A c K. 25 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: Right. 26 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's or like rhyming with tacky. The Midwest isn't tacky, 27 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: but saying Mackie does sound a little tacky. 28 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: I mean everyone says MACKI, So the fact that you 29 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: said maki you already get a. 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: Gold star as not a fun vowel ah ah. 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: It doesn't feel great. 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: Right and weirdly though, I frequently do go with an app, 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: like I say Nevada, I say Colorado. Uh right, But 34 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: I feel like the smart default when you don't know 35 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: how to pronounce a word is go with the The 36 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: other one sounds certainly classier. Oh yes, mocky, yeah exactly. 37 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 2: That's like when someone says Halloween. You know they're really 38 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: coming from a fancy place. 39 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 4: You're right about that, You are correct, you seem very fancy. 40 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: Ah. Well, I'm glad I've tricked somebody, finally fooled someone. No, 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm trash. I'm essentially trash. 42 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: How dare you? 43 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: You can't just call yourself trash? You know the cover 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: photo of your Spotify. 45 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: You know of the podcast. 46 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: You look so fancy, like I would want to have 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: drinks with you. 48 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: In a in an old timy mansion. 49 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it wonderful. 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it. 51 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we'll put it on the calendar. I have 52 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: to find a mansion, but I mean that can be done. 53 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: But like old timing, maybe an escape. 54 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: Room and having a drink in an escape room that 55 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: feels dangerous. 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. It's so fun. 57 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: It feels like that should happen in an escape room 58 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: bar where you're getting progressively more drunk and it becomes 59 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: more difficult. 60 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: Yes, why is anyone on this? 61 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean this podcast, the ideas that 62 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: come out of this, Like if listeners are taking advantage, 63 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: they're making a lot of money off of my business concept. 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: That's true. 65 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 4: You probably have a lot of great business concept. I 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: can feel that in you. 67 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: I try to plant these seeds and then when someone 68 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: takes them, I immediately launch into a lawsuit, so I 69 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: don't have to do the work, but I get the money. 70 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's like ip theft. Essentrally, you're a businessman. 71 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: I respect it. 72 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: That's something everybody knows about me. How's life? What's the new? 73 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: It's eighty nine degrees ninety degrees right now? 74 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: It's hot, and I am or I already run hot 75 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: as a person, So even just the faintest sunlight and 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: I'm going to be balmy and a little bit anxious. 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: So I carry around I'm drinking. I'm a big beverage person. Okay, 78 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: So I have my ice water here that you've so 79 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: kindly brought me. And people are always confused about this. 80 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: I want to talk about this. I've never tried this string. 81 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: It's called Zva or maybe it's Xeviah. I don't you know. 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: We want to go fancy. It's a zero calorie soda, 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: all right, So because I'm addicted to diet. 84 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: Coke, Oh my god, you're talking to the right person. Really, 85 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: I've I've I have cancer. I'm gonna. I mean, it's 86 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: it's coming for me. 87 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: But I watched this documentary. Is Aspartame really bad? Or 88 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: is it a myth? 89 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: I mean it does seem like a myth. But I 90 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: even though that it's it's a myth. I've had enough 91 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: diet coke for it to be a problem. Anyway. 92 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: Oh me too. But with the lime, I'm sorry. With 93 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 3: a lemon, Oh you like a lemon? 94 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: I like a lime, although I think it's placebo what 95 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: do you mean? I mean, I don't think limes and 96 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: lemons have that big of a taste. 97 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: Difference, really, right, are you sure taste buds are working. 98 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: I think it's a very different tastes. 99 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: They're kind of interchangeable. 100 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 4: Well, they're definitely both citrus, that's for sure, right, But 101 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: lemon feels more bright, interesting, and lime feels like that 102 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 4: it's like dark enemy or something. 103 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: You're describing colors out, Yeah, exactly. 104 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm talking about. 105 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: I would say limes are a fruitier if I were 106 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: to say it's the taste wise, like if there was a. 107 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: Taste, okay, okay, And obviously I'm preferring a lime in 108 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: the drink. You love lime, you love a lemon. But 109 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 4: back to cia. 110 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: Zeba, this was to help combat my diet coke. Like, 111 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: what's funny is I. 112 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 4: Do all these you know, we're all doing all this 113 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 4: stuff on zoom And a couple of times people have said, 114 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: are you drinking a beer because it's in this blue can. 115 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 4: It looks like I'm drinking like a michelob ultra or something, 116 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: and I was like, no, I'm not. 117 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: I'm not just drinking my way through this business. Meeting. 118 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: I think if you're on zoom, you're absolutely allowed to 119 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: just get hammered. I agree you should. You should start 120 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: the meeting at least medium drunk. 121 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think most people that are 122 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: having the. 123 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: Mug oh yeah, there's some something swishing around in those mugs. 124 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: Definitely. 125 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: What's the flavor of the Zvia blue confuses me? I can't. 126 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: I could never tell you. I would say, like vanilla. 127 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: Well, they do have all kinds of flavors, but this 128 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: is just cola cola, It's just cola, and it's it's fine. 129 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: Here we go, you know, it's totally fine. 130 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: What's the difference between that and diet coke? Like, why 131 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: would you take this over a diet coke? 132 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 4: Well, this has Stevias aspartame, and are there any Coke 133 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: products with Stevia? 134 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: I feel like there was something to work for Coke now, 135 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: and this is a pepsi podcast, so we're gonna blur 136 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: or you know, I guess the audio version of blurring 137 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 2: out the word coke every time you say. 138 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: No. 139 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: I feel like Coke did try Stevia at one point 140 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: and it must have been too expense for them or something. 141 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: On a lisas nodding their head. 142 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 3: Yes, it was Coca Cola Life. It had the green table. Yeah, 143 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: and it was made. 144 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: With cevia and some sugar like fact, oh, interesting, it 145 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: was a mix. 146 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: It was a blend. 147 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: See. So that's the problem because people when they drink 148 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: a diet soda do not want a single calorie. So 149 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: when there are some calories like, well, why am I right? 150 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: I'll just have the real or the diet exactly. Middle 151 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: ground doesn't exist for diet. 152 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: So well, there's no gray area when we're talking about soda. 153 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: And calling it life. I mean, it's it's like, what 154 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: does this say about the rest of your beverage line? 155 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: It's not right? I do you call soda soda or pop? 156 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: This is this is actually well I'm going to say 157 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: this is interesting and people are gonna be like, that's 158 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: deeply uninteresting. But this is what I'm from Utah. From 159 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: when I was a kid until I was probably fourteen, 160 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: everyone said pop and then there was kind of a 161 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: shift to soda. People started saying soda. I don't know 162 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: if it was the Internet influencing people or want and 163 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: people probably still say pop there, but you hear soda 164 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: a lot more often. What do you say, well, I. 165 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: You just said something that made me think is exactly 166 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: the same, because I do remember. 167 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: I think this is why. 168 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 4: I'm having a crisis about it, because when people ask 169 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: me that, I'm like, well, I could have sworn at 170 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 4: one point I was only saying pop and then it 171 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: moved over to soda. 172 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: So maybe it was just this whole right. 173 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: There must have been some like. 174 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: Pop shitt in the culture, right, Yeah. 175 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: Somebody wanted all of us saying soda because when you say, 176 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: when I say pop, now, I feel very small town. 177 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 4: Yes, I am like Riverdale. It's giving Riverdale, right. 178 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: They're a white fences. Although Riverdale, I've recently heard they 179 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: all have superpowers or something, so I don't know that 180 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: that's oh do they? I mean this is the rumor mill. 181 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: I don't know that it's a rumor mill. I think 182 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: it's a fact that someone told me that. 183 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 4: So confused because that would mean like Juughhead and Archie, 184 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: they all have powers. 185 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: I guess, unexplainable. 186 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: I don't like this. 187 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: I don't like it's well to me that it feels 188 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: like that show has now been going for about forty years, 189 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: but I think it's started in probably twenty seventeen. Really, well, 190 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: you're asking. 191 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: You would know better than me. I think I don't 192 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: know why. 193 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that I've ever seen an episode. 194 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: I've seen little clips, and I just I picture Neon. 195 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: I picture hot teens, although they're obviously played by thirty 196 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: five year olds. Yes, and they're in various dramas, and 197 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: I apparently know superpowers. 198 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 4: You know, when I was fifteen or sixteen, well the 199 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: tween to young adult, it was my dream to be 200 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: in a CW. I think it was everyone's dream at 201 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: that time if you were kind of auditioning, was to 202 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 4: be on a CW show. 203 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: Is there a CW show you would have loved to 204 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: be on. 205 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, Oh, well, probably The Vampire Diaries. 206 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, or sure, that feels sexy and exciting. 207 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: It was very exciting. 208 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 4: I auditioned for one of the main characters. I don't 209 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: remember or which one. I was very sad, you know, 210 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 4: all all that stuff, and then they kept bringing me 211 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: back for other roles, and I was like, one day 212 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: I'll be a vampire. 213 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: And then they never cast me. 214 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: A shame. They're lost. You're right, there's a reason that 215 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: show is not on the air anymore. If it's not 216 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: on the air anymore, I assume it's not on the 217 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: air anymore. 218 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 219 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 4: If it was still in the air, that would be incredible, 220 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: that would be amazing. 221 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: But it was kind of a soap opera, right, And 222 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: I feel like soap operas have legs for days because 223 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: you know, they they just they can do whatever they 224 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: want with the storyline. Nobody cares. Right now, this wild 225 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: thing's happening and this person. Yeah, like we've got a 226 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: whole new person. But what I have to. 227 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: Say about soap opera actors is I have such respect 228 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: because I've heard. 229 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: That, like if you're on days of your days of 230 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: your lives, days. 231 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: Of our lives, that might be the sequel days of 232 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 2: your life. It's kind of an interactive series. 233 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can choose the way you want the people 234 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: to go. I've heard that. 235 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 4: I've heard I have no you know idea this is 236 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: true or not that you go and you have to 237 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 4: do you have. 238 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: To learn like forty pages a day or something like that. 239 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: Because it's basically you're doing a live play, right that 240 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: hasn't been done until that day, Right, So. 241 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: Maybe I should go do it just to get better 242 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 4: at memorization. 243 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: Oh, that would crush me totally. That is so much memorization, 244 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 2: so much, and then to be immediately performing it in 245 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: front of a camera, right, I mean, I'm not going 246 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: to say anything else about soap opera. 247 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: That's for your other soap opera podcasts. You're rewatching. 248 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: Tune into my soap Opera Patreon. It's fifty dollars a 249 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: month and I talk NonStop soaps. No I called Days 250 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: of your Life. That's actually good. Maybe I'm going to 251 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: look into that. That could be a big money maker 252 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: for me. If you're I'm looking for a co host. 253 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: If you have any interest, I'm in. How did we 254 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: get to Oh, so you've been acting for quite a 255 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: while then, yeah, as you were a kid. 256 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: Yes, I grew up in Seattle and I started doing 257 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: musical theater when I was six or seven years old. 258 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, it was your first musical. 259 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: It was called Them. I just know it right away. 260 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: The magical Story Circus. This is up my alley, and 261 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: I played a circus troop member. 262 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: But this was okay. 263 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: This is actually a whole traumatic thing for me because 264 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 4: I was actually cast as one of the lead roles okay, 265 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 4: which was very you know exciting. Is my first time 266 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 4: ever doing this, and you know, who would have thought 267 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: because I was very shy. 268 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: So my mom was like, what how did you get 269 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: the lead role? This is so exciting? And the lead 270 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: role they didn't have a name. It was just Asian princess. 271 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 2: That was the lead role was Asian Princess. Yeah. 272 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a lot of thought put into this 273 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: show totally. And there was also the Asian Prince. 274 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: Okay, so I you know, I'm like six or seven, 275 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 4: I don't want to say, I don't know exactly six 276 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 4: between six and seven, and you had to kiss. 277 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: The Asian princess had to kiss the Asian Prince? 278 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: Oh what is? And I was like, who is behind 279 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: this play? 280 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: What feels wrong? Right? 281 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: And so I remember just being there at the you know, rehearsal, 282 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 4: and I just was like, I'm in this, you know, 283 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: Asian garb. 284 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 3: It wasn't really any sort of actual like a catch. 285 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just. 286 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: Like let's put something together, right, And then I'm with 287 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: the Asian Prince was. 288 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: Not Asian. 289 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: A white guy? 290 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 3: It definitely, yes, it did. And how do they explain that? 291 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: Right? I mean, this is a long time ago, but 292 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: still something in my six year old brain was like, 293 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 4: this doesn't feel right for so many reasons that I'll 294 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: never be able to explain until maybe I'm thirty five 295 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: years old, so now I have such clarity on it. 296 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 4: But I actually stood up for myself and I was like, 297 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 4: I'm not kissing the Prince, I'm not wearing this, and 298 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: I quit the role. And you know it was it 299 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 4: was devastating to the family when I tell you the 300 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 4: thirty years of remember when you quit the league plan 301 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 4: and it's only been the last couple of years where 302 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, I stand behind. 303 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: I totally support you. So did you end up being 304 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: something else in the show? 305 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? I was the Circus Troop member. 306 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: Oh, Circus Troop member. 307 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 3: That's I was so happy just being in the back. 308 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 4: It was funny, is there's this picture of me and 309 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: and you know, you have to be kind of a 310 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: utility player, different costumes. Sometimes you have to move the 311 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: set around, and I in this that scene where they kissed, 312 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: I had to be a water buffalo. So I was 313 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: behind with a little water buffalo and just watching these 314 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: two people because they had the TA fill in last 315 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 4: minute because it was. 316 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 3: So last minute. 317 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: Wow, you've dropped out that la. 318 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: It was sort of right before we were gonna go up, 319 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: which is my bad. You know, I'm so sorry. I 320 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 4: should have said it earlier. But I'm just behind them 321 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: in my water buffalo costume and you have these two 322 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: people on stage in Asian garbage right kissing. 323 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: And was the ta a white girl. 324 00:14:54,680 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: Yes, it's very interesting and new on story with many layers. 325 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: Yes, were you singing and dancing? What was the water 326 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: buffalo doing? Oh, the water buffalo was chewing. 327 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, like the kind of like space work kind of 328 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: chew like pretend the grass, you know, all this stuff. 329 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: I loved it because I got to wear, you know, 330 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: all different costumes and dance and be in the background. 331 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: And I was super happy me in the background. 332 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: And then like, where did you go from there? 333 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, how much time do you have? 334 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: This is a nine hour podcast? 335 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: Oh no, Well after that, so then I started doing 336 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: a bunch of stuff in the Seattle area. And there 337 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: was this woman going around at the time when I 338 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: this is now when I'm thirteen almost fourteen, and she 339 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: was a manager and she would go around all you know, 340 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: this is very much that John Robert Powers era, you know, 341 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 4: the modeling. 342 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: School, right discovered. 343 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: Exactly very common to have these kind of workshops be 344 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: a star kind of thing. And so there was a 345 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 4: manager and my friend told us about my friend told 346 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: my mom about it. 347 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: Try to take this acting class. So I enrolled in 348 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: this acting class. 349 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: And then the manager was like, you're it, you know 350 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: which I'm sure said to everyone, come out to my 351 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: acting boot camp in California in Hollywood, and it was 352 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: supposed to be like a summer camp experience. And I 353 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: was like, I'm going. I'm going. There's no stopping me. 354 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: And so I went and then I am still here. 355 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 356 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: I never went back home and did your. 357 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: Mom come out with you or anything? Oh this feels 358 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: like something from the eighteen hundredths. 359 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: Well it's very early two thousands, don't you think. 360 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there was kind of a just not realizing 361 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: what the world. 362 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: Was, Oh totally. 363 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: I mean, so I lived in this condo farm or 364 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 4: barn basically. I mean we lived in a condo in 365 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: Santa Clarita, which you know, was not right what we 366 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: thought it was going to be, like come to Hollywood. 367 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: It was like this condo in Santa Clorica. No shade 368 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 4: to Santa Clorida. I mean it's just very far away 369 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 4: from anything. And yeah, and I stayed in this condo 370 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: with all these other kids for a bunch of fears. 371 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: Who was watching over you? 372 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean she lived there. 373 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: Okay, she lived there. 374 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: She lived there. 375 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: Wow. 376 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: She also loved diet coke. Maybe that's where Yeah. 377 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: Wow, that's so. How long were you in the condo 378 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: before you moved out of the condo? 379 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 4: So I would say until I was like maybe like 380 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 4: three or four years. This is like kind of hazy, 381 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 4: But eventually my mom did move out here. Okay, she 382 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 4: got a teaching job and then right and we stayed 383 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: in Valencia and I went to high school there. 384 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible. I mean that's almost all of her twist. 385 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: It's very Deckenzian, just a bunch of essential orphans in 386 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: one space with this leader. Yes, she didn't have you stealing, 387 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: did she? Nothing like that. 388 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 3: No, no stealing. 389 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 4: But you know, it was very interesting the way it 390 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: all was, like there'd be other moms and then the 391 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: older kids would drive around the younger kids, and you know, 392 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: it was a whole web. 393 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: Wow. 394 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 395 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: And was there a point where you're like, oh, this 396 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: is gonna work, this is actually working out for me. 397 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: Oh from day one, I was like I'm committed. 398 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 4: To this, you know, I because I think I was 399 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: so naive. 400 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 3: And then when I walked into the house, I was like, Okay. 401 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 4: I had a moment where I was like, this doesn't 402 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 4: feel right again, you know my little. 403 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: Intuition right, right, maybe this isn't right. 404 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 4: And I remember she immediately said like, well, this is 405 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 4: what it's like to be a grown up. 406 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 3: So wow, get you. And so in my mind I 407 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 3: was like, oh, this would have liked to be a 408 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: grown up. This would like to be a grown up. 409 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: And that kind of just carried me through. And when 410 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: you're a kid, you want to be a grown up. 411 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: So right, I was like, she was my big chance. 412 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah this makes sense. 413 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember walking through malls in like the nineties 414 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: early thousands, thinking maybe you'll be discovered, maybe there will 415 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: be somebody here. If I was in the middle of Utah, 416 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: what what could have possibly happened? But that did like 417 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: a big trap during that period, just people floating around 418 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: malls looking for the. 419 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: Youth, right, and they want to give us your money. 420 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 4: We'll take pictures of you. 421 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: What it's all. 422 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 4: It was definitely a cultural moment in time right. 423 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: That I think we hopefully have moved past. But you'll 424 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: never know. You never know. There are some stage parents 425 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: out there that will do whatever it takes get their 426 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: kids on television. That kind of thing. 427 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 4: I'm going to come back in a year and you're 428 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 4: gonna have a whole acting boot camps. 429 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: Of teens running everywhere or getting their head shots and 430 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: putting people on tape. Oh gosh, that's my way out 431 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: of this business. I mean, I guess my way slightly 432 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: to the side of this business is what it would be. Well, 433 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: you never know, Bridgers boot Camp coming twenty twenty four. 434 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: I would sign up. 435 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: I'm looking for starlits, I'm looking for stars whatever. I'll 436 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 2: take whatever open call. I mean, look, I feel like 437 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: we've been dancing around this long enough. This podcast is 438 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: called I said no gifts. You came today. I was 439 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: very excited to have you here. You know, it was hot, 440 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: but I thought we'll have a nice time anyway, it'll 441 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: be a nice day in the backyard. And then I 442 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 2: spot you on my porch holding a pink gift bag. Ali, 443 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 2: clearly this is a gift for me, what could you 444 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: possibly have been thinking? 445 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: Well, I have to just say something in that. I 446 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: it's not just specific to you. Oh, interesting, it's thoughtless 447 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: pretty much. It's more of a stress thing and a 448 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 4: people pleasing thing because I was taught in my family 449 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 4: like you do not show up empty handed. 450 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 3: Oh, it's actually very bad. 451 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 4: I mean, and even just culturally in Japan, it's actually 452 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 4: very important the gift giving process. 453 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: So if you actually don't accept this, then I would 454 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: it would be very offensive. 455 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 2: Actually, well, I'm not above being completely rude. So well, 456 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: I'll have to see what happens here. Oh, we've got 457 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: a helicopter overhead. They're excited about the gift. Everyone's excited 458 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: about this. 459 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: Big you're flying over your property. Try to see what 460 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: it is. 461 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 2: This is kind of a Madonna's wedding situation. Should I 462 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: open it here on the podcast? 463 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: Well, I would just be so sad if you didn't. 464 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: I don't want you walking away in tears. We'll get 465 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: into it. It's a cute little pink bang. 466 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: I just have to say really quick that I spent 467 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: a lot of time on this, like, no, truly, because 468 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: I'm sort of a crafts woman. 469 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: Oh, I love doing crafts. 470 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 4: Okay, so it's it's one of my crafts in creations. 471 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: Are you kind of an all? I mean, should I 472 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: open it? Or can we talk about crafts for a minute. 473 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: You can open it and then. 474 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: We can talk about crafts after. 475 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: We can talk about crafts anytime every day. 476 00:21:49,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm reaching in. We have tissue, throwing the 477 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: tissue around the mic, of course, yeah, of course, okay, 478 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: I mean right now, I mean you've told me it's 479 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: a craft thing. So but as I'm touching it almost 480 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 2: feels like an avocado. I'm gonna pull it at Oh, 481 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: it is an avocado with a little dog head taped 482 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: to us? 483 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: A dog head that is my child, my son? What 484 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 3: the prince of my heart? 485 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: What's his name? 486 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 4: Jesse? 487 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: Oh? 488 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: This is so cute. And now I don't know that 489 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 2: it's taped or glued. Is it glued? 490 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: Oh it's a sticker. 491 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: Oh it's a sticker. 492 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: What? 493 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Well then I don't even know where to begin here. 494 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about the dog. First of all, 495 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 2: his name's Jesse. What kind of dog is he? To me? 496 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: Looks kind of like a terrier or something. 497 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 3: He's a Tibetan terrier. 498 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: Wow, good for me, A good job. 499 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 4: Now he is a Tibetan terrier and his job, you 500 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: know where his lineage came from, is that he would 501 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 4: guard the temples for the monks. 502 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, this is a small dog. No, no, they're 503 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 2: not small. 504 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 3: Well he's thirty pounds. 505 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: Oh so he's a medium size. He's medium, but I 506 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: feel like you would want to breed a slightly larger 507 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: animal for guardianship. 508 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: No, because this is his superpower. He barks and you're scared. 509 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 4: But then he's quiet and he just watches and he 510 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 4: makes sure everyone's good. 511 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: What does he bark at anything? 512 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 3: Everything? 513 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 4: You know, anyone that walks by. Okay, we have this 514 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 4: sweet like Grandma and Grandpa to live by us, and 515 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 4: he goes crazy on them, you know. 516 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: But he is an angel. He is a prince. 517 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 4: He is incredible, And I'm trying to make this whole 518 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: thing work where we don't have pet rocks anymore. 519 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 3: But it's your pet avocado. 520 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's very nice until you're cutting into 521 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: it and making it dinner. 522 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, you just have to preserve it. 523 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: Put in the freezer. 524 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: Oh, interesting, in the freezer. 525 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: And see, this is one of those things where now 526 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 4: I can come back and check on it and make 527 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: sure that you have not let the pet avocado die. 528 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: You have now trapped me into freezing an avocado. There's 529 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: nothing I can do at this point. 530 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: We have a child together. 531 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 2: Now. I always wanted to be a dad. It finally 532 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: came to me. Okay, and avocados do keep in the 533 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: freezer for a while. I think that's exactly right. So 534 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: I was going to make some sort of toast or 535 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: guakam oly. 536 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: But out of your pet avocado, you must name it. 537 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: Well, but it's got Jesse on it. 538 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: Right, Well, so what do I do? He's sort of 539 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 3: like the ethos of it. 540 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's like his his vibe is that it But. 541 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: You your Ethanan? 542 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: This is my pet Ethan? Because that that feels good. 543 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: That's classy, it's timeless. 544 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 3: Why did you go with that name? 545 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: It just popped in my head. It felt like an 546 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: Ethan to me. Wow, what can I say? 547 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: That's so cool? 548 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: That was Jesse j E S s E or Ice 549 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: j E S. S. The male. My brother is named 550 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: Jesse with an E. 551 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: But Jesse as a as a girl is real cute. 552 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: Too, Yes, but it doesn't. Don't girls usually have an 553 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: I E. 554 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: True. I was thinking of Jesse and toy story. Yeah, 555 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: it's I E right. 556 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: I like the I E yeah something. I mean you 557 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: say the cowgirl and there is kind of a lasso 558 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: quality to it. There's like a interesting I don't know, 559 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: there's something very old fashioned cowboy boots about I E. 560 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh, put cowboy boots on ething. 561 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 2: So you're causing a lot of problems. You're giving me 562 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: all of these tasks to do, I know, and I'm 563 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: not going to not be able to do them. Where 564 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: do I find a small pair of cowboy boots anywhere? 565 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: You could literally go to build a bear right now 566 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 4: and create a whole thing, and then you could turn 567 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: Ethan into an influencer and create an Instagram. 568 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: I'm telling you people would love it. 569 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: Does build a Bear sell individual accessories or do you 570 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: have to go whole hog and get the toy. 571 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 572 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I asked a lot of interesting questions on this pod. 573 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: I feel like they must write because they get you 574 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: into the bear and then they want you to come 575 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: back to. 576 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 4: But that feels a bit gatekeepy if you come in 577 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 4: and they're like, do you already own a bear? 578 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 3: Oh, that's interesting, right, Like if you. 579 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 4: Don't own a bear, you can't buy the socks or whatever. Right, 580 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: wouldn't they just want any business? Yes, any They'll take 581 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 4: any dime they can get. The struggling really struggling as 582 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 4: a business. Yeah, I have to assume they sell all 583 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: the accessories on the side. 584 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never been well, I bet i've 585 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: been in one before. I had a coworker at a 586 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: bakery once. She and her husband were they must have 587 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 2: been mid to late thirties, and they were very dedicated 588 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: to build a bear culture. It was startling. 589 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: Tell me more. 590 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: I mean their home was full of stuffed creatures. They 591 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 2: were their their children until they had a child. 592 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 3: Wait, they were their children. 593 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: They treated these things like children. The build a bear, 594 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: the build of bears. They were very into it was. 595 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 2: I think they had every one of these things. 596 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 4: They were all actual build of bears. I think they 597 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 4: owned every type of build a bear. 598 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 2: Right. I can't imagine how many they've got or especially 599 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: at the time, but then they had of course other 600 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is in the community. Is 601 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 2: its stuffed or plush? And I think they probably call 602 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: them plush toys, right, I would call them stuffed animals. 603 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say stuff. 604 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 4: But their home, I believe, was just filled with these things. 605 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: And wait, how have you heard of Zillow Gone Wild? 606 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 3: No, this is my new thing. 607 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I immediately have an idea in my head, 608 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: but going on, it's an. 609 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: Instagram account where they do real Zillow listing. 610 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: Oh I love this sort of thing. 611 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 4: And there was this one that was so frightening. There 612 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: was just dolls everywhere, like porcelain dolls, and then there 613 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 4: was like a rocking chair in the middle of the 614 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 4: room with a like a sort of a clown sort 615 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 4: of thing on it, like it was riding the thing. 616 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: And there was just dolls all sorts all over the house. 617 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: And the rocking chair was just kind of in the room, unmoored. 618 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: It was like placed in the middle of the room 619 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 4: like sort of as when you walk in, that would 620 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 4: be the centerpiece of. 621 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: Very unsettling, even beyond all of the dolls. If I 622 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: walk into a room that just has a rocking chair 623 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: directly in the middle of it, I don't know what 624 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: I would do. It's got to be close to something. 625 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: It has to be in a corner. 626 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: Right. Otherwise it's a little like I don't even know. 627 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: You're there entirely by yourself. No one ever else enters 628 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: the room. You're just kind of rocking looking at the wall. 629 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: Right. Yes, it's very scary movie. 630 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: Right. And did this feel like they were trying to 631 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: make it intentionally scary or this person was a scary person? 632 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 4: That is just what I wonder every day. I think 633 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: about it all day and all night of kind of 634 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: if this was a strategy or if it was just 635 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 4: sort of like, yeah, take the pictures were on vac 636 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 4: you know what. 637 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: That person's not on a vacation. That person doesn't leave 638 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: the house. 639 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: What do you mean maybe they got to go find 640 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: more dolls. 641 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: Oh, that's true, they're on a well they call that 642 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: a doll hunt. 643 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: That's not a vacation, right, that's true. 644 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: That's all safari or not. 645 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: All of the dolls are located in you know the valley. 646 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: Wow? And that was that a California residence? 647 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: I actually don't know. 648 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: Interesting. I mean, it is an interesting strategy to just 649 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: go full freak in the Zillow thing because a lot 650 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: of people aren't going to buy the house. But there 651 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: will be one special person who will pay even more. 652 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: Well, maybe they. 653 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: Just you know, because I think selling a home is 654 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 4: sort of bittersweet, right, because you're you've made all these 655 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 4: memories there and you want hopefully the next person to 656 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 4: take did you create more memories there? 657 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: Right? 658 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: So maybe they're just. 659 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: Like, we want to find someone that has the same 660 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: kind of interests as we do, so we know they 661 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: will take care of the property. 662 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, I guess it's a strategy. It 663 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: probably takes ten times as long. 664 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: But in the end, quality over quantity, right. 665 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: Quality over quantity. You don't want a lot of people 666 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: bidding on your home. That's a first rule of real estate. 667 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: You don't want a lot of interest in all. 668 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: Oh never, you want. 669 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 2: One scary person approaching and offering to pay in cash. 670 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: Actually that's not a bad thing. 671 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: But that's I mean, you know they got money, that's fine. 672 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: If they love the dolls. I wonder if they know 673 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: they're taking all the dolls with them, right. 674 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, that's a good question. 675 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: Are they're in the photo when you get to keep them? 676 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: Right? It's false advertising on their wise. Yeah, when I 677 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: put the bid in, i'd say all dolls are nothing, right, 678 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: That is like a contingency, right, that sort of house, 679 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: and I think like renting an apartment or buying a 680 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: house or anything, when they have horrible pictures, it is 681 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: a good I mean, it's excellent for the renter or 682 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: the buyer because nobody wants those things. They look terrible 683 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: in the pictures. Then you go and it's like, oh, 684 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: this person's just bad at photographing or didn't quite know 685 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: what they were doing, and you get a good deal. 686 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: Well, I agreed, it's all about the pictures. 687 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: It's all about that. 688 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 4: I actually thought that I would, as you know, as 689 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: a side gig, that I could be so good at 690 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 4: taking the home photos. 691 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's stopping staging? 692 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: Oh, so much fun it would be. I mean I 693 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 4: would be bad at it, but it would be fun. 694 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 4: I feel like you'd be great at it. 695 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: It feels like weirdly low pressure because you don't you 696 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: have a little budget to work with the stage. Yes, 697 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: and you don't have to live with it, so you 698 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: can kind of experiment and do new things, and that 699 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: could be fun. It's like a giant dollhouse exactly. Well, 700 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: I mean I feel like that's a career opportunity for 701 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: you maybe. I mean it's you can just have a 702 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: you know, that could be like your fun job outside 703 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: of hector. 704 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: I love a fun job. 705 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: Back to crafting, I mean, oh dear, what sort of 706 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: crafting are you doing in your free time? 707 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: I really actually am not good at crafting at all. 708 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: Just starting off with a huge lot. 709 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I wanted you to think this gift 710 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: is really special, because it is. 711 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: It is special. It is certainly special. 712 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 4: I went to the market, I picked out the perfect avocado. 713 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: Let me, let's see. Yeah it's not uh like, in 714 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: two days it'll be ripe, but it will never be 715 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 2: right because it's going in the freezer. 716 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: Thank you exactly. I wanted you to put on a 717 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: little stand I've got. 718 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm a stunt. Its growth and uh. 719 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah crafts. I like puzzles. Is that a craft? 720 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely not a crap. I just completed a real journey 721 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: with a puzzle from this podcast. It took me fifteen 722 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: weeks to complete the puzzle. What was the picture of 723 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: horrible picture of all of the Republican presidents or quite 724 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: a few of them outside of the most recent horrible one. 725 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: He wasn't on there for some reason. But it was 726 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: me just completing this thing that I didn't want to 727 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: look at. 728 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 3: Wait, that was a gift from someone. 729 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: Yes, it was a gift from Chris Thay or a 730 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: guest of I don't know at this point, twenty weeks 731 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: ago or something. 732 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: I listened to all of your episodes. 733 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: I know all of the so certainly you've heard yeah, 734 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: he I mean I was just kind of staring at Bush, 735 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: Senior and Junior, Nixon, all of them four weeks at 736 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: a time, and it was it was kind of my 737 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: first puzzle. It was a thousand pieces. It was your 738 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: first puzzle, yeah, basically outside of elementary school. 739 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 740 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: And it was I mean, it was weirdly satisfying. When 741 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: it started working, It's like, wow, I'm doing it. Yeah, 742 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: But I knew we were headed in a direction to 743 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: a picture I had no interest in keeping. 744 00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 3: I know what. 745 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I appreciate your dedication to finishing it. So 746 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 4: what is your sort of strategy with puzzles? Do you 747 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: start with the out the corners? 748 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I kind of use the strategy that I've just 749 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 2: heard through the years of doing the edges the border, 750 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: which was easy enough, and then separating into different color piles. 751 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: This one had a lot of like peach tones and 752 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: just solid black, which really became a challenge because it's 753 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: just like, I don't know where any of this goes. 754 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: They're all the exact same color, right, I mean literally 755 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 2: no textural difference or anything. It was just solid colors. 756 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 2: So but I separated into piles and then just dragged 757 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 2: myself through it for weeks and weeks and weeks. 758 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 3: How did you get anything done? 759 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: Because I don't have anything to do. My life's completely empty. Autoly. 760 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: This is vigorously nodding and flipping me off. Oh wow, 761 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: this is the abuse that happens on this podcast. 762 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: I do feel bad for you. 763 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: My producer is giving me the bird and telling me 764 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 2: my life is nothing. I mean, I'm sure you know. 765 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: When you're doing a puzzle, you start getting into it 766 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: and time slips away. Oh that is loose track of things. 767 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: That is how I got through the pandemic. 768 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: Of course, my boyfriend did a puzzle during the pandemic 769 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: of a picture we actually wanted of our dog. Oh 770 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: what yes, Oh yeah, of course, I mean we can 771 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: talk dogs. I'll take Oh my god, I want to 772 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: know what puzzles you were doing. 773 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: Well, I did a SpongeBob SquarePants one really tiny, so 774 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 4: many little creatures in that one. 775 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: Oh, very hard, very hard. 776 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: How many pieces? 777 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 3: I think a thousand? 778 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: Okay? Is that kind of like the average? Would you say, 779 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 2: for like a regular puzzle, you're looking at a thousand 780 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: or is it five hundred? 781 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 4: Well, I think a thousand is if you five hundred 782 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 4: is if you're like I want to feel like about 783 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 4: us today. 784 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 2: Oh, interesting, it's kind of a day long activity. Yeah. 785 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 4: And if you're just like I need anyone or just 786 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 4: a thing to tell me that I'm doing okay, right, 787 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 4: you know, because you could finish it. But the thousand 788 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 4: is sort of like, yeah, if you want to challenge yourself. 789 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: And okay, and how long on average would it take 790 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 2: you to complete a puzzle? I'm trying to see where 791 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: I stand with my It's gonna make me feel bad 792 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: no matter what you say. 793 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 3: Definitely faster than you. 794 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 4: If you're spending fifty did you say you're spending fifteen 795 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 4: hours a day? 796 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: No, fifteen weeks, fifteen weeks, and. 797 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: That's not great, not in the world of puzzles. 798 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 2: In my defense, it was a picture I had no 799 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: interest in looking at, but still. 800 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 4: Well, not really an excuse. You can't just choose what 801 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 4: you want to make. 802 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you're absolutely you can not in this scenario 803 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: given to me, and I was forced. I had a 804 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: gun to my head and I had to finish this puzzle. 805 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 3: Was your friend appreciative that you did the puzzle? 806 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: I think he was happy. I would send him updates 807 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 2: and he would shame me. But you know it was 808 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 2: a he kind of on the podcast said you have 809 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 2: to do this, and then there was like kind of 810 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: a call to arms to the listeners to demand I 811 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 2: do it. So, I mean there was literally nothing I 812 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: could do. 813 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 4: When you get all these gifts, do people kind of 814 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 4: require you to do things? Are they checking up on 815 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 4: the gifts? Like sort of like I'm just wanting for 816 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 4: my own kind of. 817 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 2: You will be I mean, let's be honest, You're going 818 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: to be calling me day and night. I'm definitely because 819 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna want to like wish it sweet dreams every night. 820 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 3: I'm the godmother. 821 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 4: Yes, I wouldn't just give this to you and then 822 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 4: if it died, I. 823 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: I would feel a great deal of guilt. 824 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 3: That would me. 825 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 2: Yes, No, I would feel nothing. 826 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 3: You would feel nothing. Oh my goodness. 827 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 2: You're talking to a psychopath. No, I'm gonna I'm going 828 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: to put this in the freezer and we'll figure out 829 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 2: what we do because the listener, of course, is going 830 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: to want to see this on Instagram. 831 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 3: I think they're kind and the progress right. 832 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 2: But to answer your question, most people don't check in. 833 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 2: On occasion, they will, but another helicopter that may be 834 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 2: they're checking in. Yeah, they've got a giant telescope or 835 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: binoculars they're looking at us. No, they don't check in. 836 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 2: They kind of just swing by the house, dump something 837 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 2: on me, and then I'm I have to live with 838 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,959 Speaker 2: it for the rest of my life. 839 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've really set yourself up here. 840 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 4: When you give a gift and it's a close friend, 841 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 4: are you someone that when you go back to their house, 842 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 4: are you like checking this interesting so there? 843 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,959 Speaker 2: Or I don't. I wouldn't say that I'm I'm checking in, 844 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 2: but I would say I'm a noticer. I'm an observer. 845 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: I'm not actively looking because do whatever you want. But 846 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 2: if I observer notice that the item is never used, right, 847 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 2: I have to kind of assume they're either doing it 848 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: in private, which means they're embarrassed of whatever I gave them, 849 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: or they haven't used it, So how am I supposed 850 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: to feel? 851 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 3: Right? It doesn't feel good? 852 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 2: Do you are? 853 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: You? 854 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 2: Like? Why aren't you wearing the shirt I gave you? 855 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 3: I'm a noticer. I mean you know you already knew that. 856 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 2: I think what we're both trying to say is we're 857 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 2: deeply petty, and definitely we will seek revenge this kind 858 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 2: of thing. I mean, if somebody doesn't use the gift, 859 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: the next time I give them something, it's there's gonna 860 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: be a down grade. Oh yeah, it's like, no. 861 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 3: I get it because I'm an aunt. I'm an aunt. 862 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: How many kids? 863 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 3: Well three? 864 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 4: One of them is twenty two though, so I still 865 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,959 Speaker 4: give him gifts all the time. 866 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 3: He just needs money. 867 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean, when they get to the 868 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 2: age where you can just give them money, what a dream? 869 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 3: I don't like that. 870 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 4: No. 871 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 3: I like going to five and under. Have you heard 872 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 3: a store? 873 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 4: No, It's like it's a story where everything's five dollars 874 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 4: an under. 875 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was for children five and under. 876 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 2: That's another business idea is still lower. 877 00:39:53,960 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 4: It's getting interesting your business ideas. I like going there 878 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 4: and I like spending one hundred dollars on nothing. 879 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: Wow, you know what are you getting a one hundred dollars? 880 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 4: No that I are contributing to a global problem? No, okay, 881 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 4: maybe forty five dollars okay? 882 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 2: And what sort of stuff do they have there? 883 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 3: They have great stuff? 884 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: Really? 885 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. I just bought a birthday gift for my niece 886 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 4: and it was just all these coloring books, books, stuffed animals. 887 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 4: Okay for your collection, just all kinds of stuff. It's 888 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 4: all fine, But you would also buy like furniture there. 889 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 4: Furniture I'm serious for under five dollars, like a lawn chair. 890 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 3: What is it like? 891 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 4: Like shoe racks and oh, little cabinets and dog beds. 892 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 3: And they have games, they have puzzles. 893 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 2: Is this a chain? 894 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 3: Yes? 895 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 2: Okay? Interesting? How have I never heard of five an under? 896 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 3: I just recently discovered it. 897 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 2: My I'll go to the dollar store. You know, you're 898 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: you're making some compromises when you're buying at the dollars 899 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 2: so or occasionally they have, you know, great deals. I'm 900 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 2: also going to Dice Dio Diso is like the place 901 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 2: where you go the things that when I buy there, 902 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this is something I want to own. 903 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 2: Oh and they're like affordable, not five and under, but 904 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 2: under twenty. 905 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 4: Would you say, yeah, well, is there something that's twenty 906 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 4: dollars there? 907 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: There are things that look like they should cost twenty 908 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 2: dollars and that's two dice OF's credit exactly. 909 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 4: You can get some great dishware there, dishware stuff animal 910 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 4: and Harry, really beautiful soft stuffed animals. One year, I 911 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 4: had a little party and I just bought a bunch 912 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 4: of like Christmas socks there so everyone could have a 913 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 4: pair of socks. 914 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: I should get socks there. 915 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 4: But then you seem like you are so amazing and thoughtful. 916 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 4: You're like, wow, this person bought forty socks. 917 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 3: Like for us. Little do they know? Diso? 918 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's because DISO, I think has some level of 919 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: control of their brand. So it's like it's not just 920 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 2: random crap. It looks like someone's taken some level of care. 921 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah right, I'm so impressed that you knew about Diceo. 922 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: The first time I went in a Diceo was like, 923 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: where did this come from? What is this? 924 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 3: What is I love? Like holes? 925 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 2: I think I bought some sort of some shower caddy. 926 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 2: You know they have things like that. I did buy 927 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: my niece is one of these stuffed animals. Cute, it 928 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 2: was adorable. It wasn't like a crummy looking stuffed animal. 929 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 2: It was cute. 930 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you a bad uncle? 931 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 2: No? No, I'm not a bad uncle. That's I mean, 932 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: that's why I have a problem with why I'm waiting 933 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 2: for my nieces to just accept money, because when I 934 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 2: need to give them a gift, I panic, I freak 935 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 2: out because I don't. I want them to get good gifts. 936 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 4: Wait, did you start this whole podcast as sort of 937 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 4: your own like to help you in a way. 938 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: I think subconsciously, I must have right, you must have everything. 939 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 2: There's a reason for everything. I mean, maybe someone visited 940 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 2: me in a dream and gave me the idea. It's 941 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: hard to say, but I think. I mean, it has 942 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 2: helped me accept things. I'm not kidding. I can, like 943 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 2: get a gift a little easier. Now, off the podcast. 944 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 3: What about compliments? 945 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 2: Compliments? I will never be able to take same. It's 946 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 2: a very difficult thing. And it's you should take a compliment. 947 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,479 Speaker 3: You should realistically, but we can't. 948 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: It's very difficult for me to do, and it's for 949 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 2: me somewhere between self hatred and I don't even know 950 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 2: what the like why I can't take compliments same? I 951 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 2: know what weird, person's just trying to be nice to you. 952 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 2: When were we taught that right? 953 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 3: And what do you what is your reaction? 954 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 4: Because when someone says something nice about me, I instantly 955 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 4: kind of do this, like like. 956 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 3: Like I curl inside of myself. 957 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 4: I kind of hunch my shoulders and I like hide 958 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 4: my face. 959 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 2: Not attractive really because you immediately what a you're trying 960 00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 2: to deflect by becoming not the thing right you do? 961 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll say something that immediately diminishes whatever 962 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: compliment I've been given. 963 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 3: So if I was like, you're really nice, you'd be like. 964 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 2: No, I'm not about jass whole I will say. I 965 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 2: think with shirts, if someone compliments a shirt I have, 966 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 2: I've gotten a little bit better of being like yeah, 967 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 2: I'll be like oh, because I used to be like, 968 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 2: oh I got it on sale, or oh this is 969 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 2: forty years old. I still do that on occasion, but 970 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 2: for the most part, I think I can now just say, oh, 971 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 2: thank you, that's great, but ow any other coroud of you, thank. 972 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 3: You, I love you. Specifically to shirts shirts as if 973 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 3: the only compliment you get is about your shirts. 974 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest. I guess I've got an incredible 975 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: library of shirts, do you. I mean, if I'm getting 976 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 2: compliments on shirts, shirt is really cool? Oh thank you. 977 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 2: But this I did get on sale was five dollars 978 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: at the Bearded Beagle Vintage placed down on York and 979 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 2: then I died it at sways Soo Shop, which is 980 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 2: a place I absolutely love. Oh my god, You've got 981 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 2: to go to Sway Soap Shop. They have a community 982 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 2: die bath and every month they have four different colors. 983 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 2: I'm addicted to it. I go there and just drop 984 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 2: off things and then like six weeks later the clothes 985 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 2: are new. This was white, Now it's a yellow shirt. 986 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 3: Well, most people would want the opposite. 987 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: Well, when you start off with the used white shirt, 988 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 2: you've got to there got one of the things you 989 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: got to do with it. 990 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 3: It's already halfway there, right, You've. 991 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 2: Got to get it to the full yellow. So now 992 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: it's kind of a yellow shirt and it's from the 993 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 2: Tosa East Athletic staff. I assume a high school or 994 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 2: college or something, right, right, how did we get to hear? 995 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 2: Oh compliments? 996 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 3: The heat is so blaring, I my brain is melting. 997 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 2: There was a time on this podcast when we were 998 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 2: recording during the pandemic in my back office, and we 999 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 2: didn't know that I could have the air conditioning on 1000 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 2: during recording because we thought it wouldn't interfere with sound. 1001 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 2: It was ninety degrees outside. It was the Julie c 1002 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 2: was Inner episode. If listeners want to go back and 1003 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 2: see if there's any evidence of this. Towards the end, 1004 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 2: I was blacking out. I was delirious. I did not 1005 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 2: know what to do. 1006 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 4: Wait, I vote that you should move it back in 1007 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 4: that room as sort of like this is your own 1008 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 4: hot wings type thing. Do you know. 1009 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 2: Oh that's a good idea. 1010 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. It's like I've given you so much today. 1011 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 3: I probably won't get any commission giving. That would be 1012 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 3: so funny though. 1013 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, two people just sweating their brains out, and like 1014 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 2: you start saying things when you're delirious. 1015 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 3: Oh, I already feel like I've said you must certain. 1016 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 2: Truths come out, and we've still got we have two 1017 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 2: other things to do, so maybe we should get into 1018 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 2: two other things. First of all, we're going to play 1019 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 2: a game. We're gonna play a game called Gift Master. 1020 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you. 1021 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 3: Six. 1022 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do some light calculating in order 1023 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 2: to get our game pieces. Listener, by the way, I'm 1024 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 2: telling you, the Gift Master game is available somewhere online. 1025 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 2: Go buy it to play it at home. Okay, I 1026 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 2: have to do some like calculating. I've done some promotion. 1027 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 2: Now you can do some promotion recommending. Do whatever you 1028 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 2: want with the microphone right now. 1029 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 4: Hi everyone, Well, the Big Door Prize is out on 1030 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 4: Apple TV Plus. Please go watch that. It's a very 1031 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 4: fun show. And yeah, I'm just hanging out in the backyard. 1032 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 4: He's doing something very intensely. There's a lot of moving 1033 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 4: around the mouse. 1034 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 2: It's a very complicated process. 1035 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 4: Oh. Also, Shortcomings is coming out August fourth. 1036 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 3: August fourth in theaters near you. 1037 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 2: Okay, well, see that's great promotion. 1038 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 3: Please go to the theaters. 1039 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,280 Speaker 2: Park yes directed movie. 1040 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 3: Yes, it is. 1041 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 4: Randall Park's directorial debut. Sorrying Justin Eichman, myself, Sherry Kohla. 1042 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 4: It's incredible, it's delightful. It it went to Sundance and 1043 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 4: it was just one of those dream projects you make 1044 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 4: with your friends and then somehow it just you know, 1045 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 4: it becomes this amazing little. 1046 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 2: Film and this laser accuracy. With the promotion. We're landing 1047 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 2: on a Thursday tomorrow. The listeners like, what am I 1048 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 2: doing this weekend? 1049 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 3: It's like it was meant to be. 1050 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank somebody had some idea of the release schedule. 1051 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 2: It's hard to say. We have to play the game. 1052 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm so excited. 1053 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 2: This is called Gift Master. I'm gonna name three celebrities, 1054 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 2: three people, and then I'm gonna name three gifts, three 1055 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 2: things you can give away. You're gonna tell me which 1056 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 2: gift you would give which person and why does that 1057 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 2: make crystal clear sense? 1058 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 3: Yes? 1059 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 2: Okay. The celebrities you'll be giving gifts to today are 1060 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 2: Number one, Bruce Dern, father of Laura Dern. He's probably 1061 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 2: mid eighties to early nineties at this point. Okay, just 1062 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,919 Speaker 2: imagine an older man who's been acting for decades. Number 1063 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 2: two Olivia Coleman. Okay, excellent, I love Olivia, We love 1064 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 2: Olivia Coleman. Number three is John Cougar Mellencamp. Do you 1065 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 2: have any idea who that is? He sings one of 1066 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 2: my least favorite songs of all time, which one it's 1067 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 2: called Jack can Diane it's horrible. 1068 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I've heard that. 1069 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 4: Okay, sure, I don't know much about him personally. 1070 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 2: You've got very little information about. 1071 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 3: Olivia. 1072 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 2: Yes, you know that Bruce den is an old man, okay, 1073 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 2: and aging you know he's he's getting up there. And 1074 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 2: John Cougar sings a song that I just think sucks. 1075 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 2: The gifts you're going to be giving today are Number one, 1076 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 2: chronic migraines. So that's an interesting little gift you'll be 1077 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 2: handing out. 1078 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 3: You give the gift of chronic migraines. 1079 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 2: Oh alas, give the gift of chronic. 1080 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 3: Micro statistic Okay, got it. 1081 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 2: Number two is a deep understanding of the American text system. 1082 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 2: So that's a nice little. 1083 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 3: Gift that would be wonderful. 1084 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 2: Nobody has it. One mysterious, it's complicated, it's difficult. Number 1085 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 2: three is their own brand of tequila. So that's a 1086 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 2: nice kind of celebrity gift, you know you've got. I 1087 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 2: think George Clooney's doing it. I'm sure other celebrities. I 1088 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 2: know one of the real house Wives of Salt Lake 1089 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 2: Cities got hers. So those, uh, take all that information, 1090 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 2: wash it around in your brain. 1091 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,399 Speaker 3: Alrighty, here we go. 1092 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 4: I think that right out the gate, I would say, 1093 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 4: Olivia gets the tequila company. 1094 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,240 Speaker 3: Oh did you say tequila specifically? 1095 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 2: Yes, her own brand of. 1096 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 4: Can you imagine how amazing that marketing will be? 1097 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 2: Yet? How do you market this respected British actresses foray 1098 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 2: into tequila? 1099 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 4: It would be perfect. I think they could do so 1100 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,240 Speaker 4: many funny things, so many little spoofs, or just even 1101 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 4: her in like a really like a floor length gown. 1102 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 3: Like because because who says that tequila has to be anything? 1103 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 3: It could be anything. Maybe she can thank you. That's 1104 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 3: how I've always felt about tequila. 1105 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 2: You have been terrified to say it until this podcast, 1106 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 2: and you're so hot that you had to. 1107 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 3: Say it, to say it's coming to Olivia. Definitely with 1108 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 3: the tequila campaign, just because I want to see. 1109 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 2: That billboard right right and we all want to see 1110 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 2: that experiment? Will the brand tank? Do people trust Olivia 1111 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 2: with tequila? 1112 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they? 1113 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,800 Speaker 2: Because I don't really associate tequila with the British isles. 1114 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,240 Speaker 3: But that's what's fun about. 1115 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 2: It, right? But fun or risky or risky, but sometimes 1116 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 2: risky can be fun. 1117 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 4: Wow, we learned a lesson all good things come with 1118 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 4: a little bit of risk, right sort of. Okay, so 1119 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 4: that's that. John Cougar Mellencamp. I'm such a big fan 1120 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 4: of his library. I think that, okay, music is therapy. 1121 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 4: So I would give him the chronic migraines because he 1122 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 4: already has this sort of like therapeutic hobby, how interesting. 1123 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 3: And career that he can help combat that, right. 1124 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 2: And I mean and for me speaking personally, I mean, 1125 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,720 Speaker 2: I don't have chronic migraines, but I do have migraines, 1126 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 2: and there's a good chance they come from Jack and 1127 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 2: Diane maybe causing it because song is so bad that 1128 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 2: it's done something to my brain that occasionally I can't 1129 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 2: look at bright light right. 1130 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 4: Well, okay, And then also what if he can have 1131 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,240 Speaker 4: he can sort of get at one of those commercials 1132 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 4: about migrain medicines. 1133 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, and they can use the song become the 1134 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 2: face and voice of chronic micro. 1135 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 4: Exactly, so he can flip it, you know, turn all 1136 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,839 Speaker 4: of just like you turned your ability not to give 1137 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 4: good gifts into this podcast. 1138 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 2: Well and John CM, John Chronic Migraine, John Cougar Melank, 1139 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 2: I think this makes perfect. 1140 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yes, JCM. 1141 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 4: And then they can play the infomercial like in between 1142 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 4: the prices, right, like commercial breaks and stuff. 1143 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 3: I feel like it's perfect. 1144 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 2: This is perfect for John Coucker. 1145 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 4: Okay, and then Bruce Bruce can have the tax stuff so. 1146 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 2: Late in life to have that gift, what a waste. 1147 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,320 Speaker 4: Well, he can pass it on to his children, that's true. 1148 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 4: Imagine you gather around by the fire, kids. Grandpa Bruce 1149 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 4: is gonna, is he grandpa? 1150 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 2: He's got he must be a grandpa, right, Grandpa. 1151 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 4: Bruce is going to tell you exactly how that or 1152 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 4: maybe he could leave it in his will. 1153 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 2: Interesting, or so to write a book right. 1154 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 4: About breaking down the American tax system. He'd be a legend. Yeah, 1155 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 4: that's the legacy he leaves behind. Yes, finally somebody understands 1156 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 4: what's going on with the American tax system. Yes, and 1157 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 4: then everybody gets to do or one of his children. 1158 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 4: Does he have more children than Laura or is it 1159 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 4: just her? 1160 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 3: Oh you looked not at it. 1161 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 2: I was looking at anse because I just feel like 1162 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 2: Analis has got the answer. Do you have any idea 1163 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 2: to children? 1164 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:41,919 Speaker 1: Laura? 1165 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 3: Interesting? 1166 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 2: The other remain. 1167 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, we do love Laura though, Oh we gotta love her. 1168 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 4: Wouldn't you want Laura to understand the tax system I have. 1169 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 2: I need her to understand it. 1170 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 4: Maybe then she would start like a new uh like 1171 00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 4: H and R block, but she becomes like a CPA. 1172 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 2: She should play a CPA. I feel like that's right 1173 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 2: up her ally. 1174 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 4: That would be a great show in a session, but 1175 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,879 Speaker 4: interesting at a local tax office. Oh and then her dad, 1176 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 4: Bruce can play her dad in the show. And he 1177 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 4: has an understanding of the tax system. This is perfect, 1178 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 4: and he passes that legacy onto Laura, and she's a 1179 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 4: urgeoning CPA. 1180 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,720 Speaker 2: When the writers' strike ends, we're going to take meetings, 1181 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 2: We're going to pitch the show. There we go, Laura 1182 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 2: reached out, Is it Laura? Laura? I never understand with 1183 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 2: Laura's you are saying Laura, Laura Dern, Laura Dern. I 1184 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 2: would I love her so much, and I don't know 1185 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 2: how to pronounce her name. That's so embarrassing. I better 1186 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 2: Laura Dern. It's Laura Dern. Laura, Yeah, Laura Dern. What 1187 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 2: am I thinking? 1188 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 4: I thought it sounded questionable. I didn't want to embarrass you. 1189 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 2: Laura Dern. I can't believe what I've done to you. Okay, 1190 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 2: we've you played the game in a very interesting way 1191 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: and I really appreciated it. 1192 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 3: Wait, what's the right way to play? 1193 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 2: There's no right way to play the game. Okay, it's 1194 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 2: more it's a thought exercise. But nobody wants to have 1195 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 2: a thought exercise. They want to have a game in 1196 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 2: today's culture. They don't want a game. 1197 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 4: The only thing I'll say about the word interesting is 1198 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 4: it it's definitely giving more negative than positive. 1199 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 3: But maybe that's my own trauma. 1200 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 2: I didn't mean that. 1201 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 3: Sometimes my mom will be like, that's interesting, and I'm like, 1202 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 3: what does that mean? What do you mean? A lot 1203 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,240 Speaker 3: of people do that that's interesting. 1204 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, people will say, oh, it was interesting, but it's 1205 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 2: not a compliment. We need to get interesting back into 1206 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 2: the compliment category. Well, speaking of interesting, this is the 1207 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 2: final segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails. 1208 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 2: The listener writes into I said no gifts at gmail 1209 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 2: dot com. And they're interesting questions. They're interesting questions, and I, listener, 1210 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 2: I want to open this, really, open this up, ask 1211 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 2: it whatever you want. At this point, I don't even 1212 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 2: care anymore. Usually they're problems in their lives, social problems. 1213 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 2: This kind of thing. But I don't really care anymore. 1214 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 2: I'll take any question. I've already assued. You're gonna help me? 1215 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 2: Are you gonna help me? Yeah? 1216 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,240 Speaker 3: Sure, dull, but I think I remember what you said. 1217 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 2: We had to pull you off the ground. Your body 1218 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 2: is limp. This is Highbridger, and whoever your guest is, 1219 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 2: that feels rude, That feels a little there's no compliment there, whatever, 1220 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 2: but whatever, this is the letter, Yeah, Highbridger, and whoever 1221 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:21,919 Speaker 2: your guest is. Oh, my mom's sixtieth is two days 1222 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,919 Speaker 2: apart from my thirtieth this year. Obviously, I want all 1223 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 2: eyes on my birthday. But all that seems unfair, Okay, 1224 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 2: So I want to get her something nice. She likes 1225 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 2: wine but drinks a bit too much and likes reading, 1226 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 2: and honestly that's all she seems to like. Her and 1227 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 2: my dad do keep bees, but it's more of my 1228 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,359 Speaker 2: dad's thing. So maybe something to get her excited about that. 1229 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea. Thank you, Leoni, She her Leoni. 1230 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 2: The big question is what is this relationship between mother 1231 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 2: and daughter? This daughter is writing in and is you know, 1232 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 2: kind of pointing the finger about the drinking. It is 1233 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 2: obviously wants all of the birthday attention, knows next to 1234 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,800 Speaker 2: nothing about the mom. She knows she has maybe a 1235 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 2: drinking problem in like story, Oh and be keeping, be keeping, 1236 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 2: And that's more of the dance thing, right, So it 1237 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 2: feels like Leone first of all, just wanted to announce 1238 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 2: it's her thirtieth. Happy birthday, Leone, we love a birthday. 1239 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 2: You're getting all of this attention, but also happy sixtieth 1240 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 2: to your mom. We don't want to leave her out, 1241 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 2: But how do we answer the question? 1242 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,959 Speaker 4: You know what's hard about this is they're both big years. 1243 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,439 Speaker 4: It's not like someone's like I'm turning twenty eight, I'm 1244 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 4: turning thirty seven, right, or fifty seven big. They're milestones 1245 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 4: thirty and sixty. So I kind of understand why she's like, well, 1246 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 4: thirty is big too, thirty thirty you want to give 1247 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 4: that up, right, I understand, But I mean the thing is, 1248 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 4: why does one diminish the other? 1249 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 3: Can it just be on a different day? Like one? 1250 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 2: Zioni's very competitive. She wants to beat her mom. She 1251 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 2: wants to beat her at this game. You know, it's 1252 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 2: a she is. 1253 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 3: The question what should she get her? 1254 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, she wants what do I get her that's basically drinking, 1255 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 2: reading or bees? Is there a book about drinking and bees? Probably? 1256 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 2: What do you buy a beekeeper? Maybe a cute bee 1257 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 2: keeping suit? 1258 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 4: See, I'm all about when I here's my philosophy on gifts. 1259 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 3: Mine is all about experiences. 1260 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 4: Oh sure, I'm not like, here's a you know, a 1261 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 4: designer bag or whatever, like that's crazy as again first 1262 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 4: of all, but I'm more about I'd love to take 1263 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 4: you to, like, let's do a beekeeping class together. 1264 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 3: How make a memory? 1265 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 4: You know, so maybe they can go and have wine 1266 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 4: at the bee society. 1267 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 2: To me is what I would imagine. There's some sort 1268 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 2: of bee society. 1269 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 3: I mean, how fun would that be? 1270 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's she's because it sounds seems like it's 1271 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 2: kind of the dad's thing, and this makes it kind 1272 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 2: of fun for her her, it makes the mom kind 1273 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 2: of enjoy it. I'm just beyond baffled why the thirtieth 1274 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 2: birthday was even brought up here. It should not have 1275 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 2: been brought up. She's confused us. 1276 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 3: What do you mean? 1277 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 2: Why is centering it on herself? She's trying to get 1278 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 2: the mamma gift poke a hole in the best suit 1279 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 2: and see what happens. That's an experience. 1280 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 3: The truth comes the real measure comes out. 1281 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 4: No, but I agree with you because that's why I'm 1282 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 4: confused as to what is she asking? 1283 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 2: Right? 1284 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,919 Speaker 4: Is she asking what to get her? She asking why 1285 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 4: she has to do anything for her at all? 1286 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 2: She's asking why are we so distant from each other? 1287 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 2: Why do I not get along with mom? 1288 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 3: You know what? 1289 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 4: The mother daughter experience is a mystical creature. 1290 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 2: It seems mystical to me. 1291 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 4: It is so mystical, and I don't think I'll ever 1292 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 4: understand it until I have a daughter. 1293 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 2: It feels more fraught than other parent child relationships. I'd 1294 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 2: say one. Is that true? 1295 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 3: Oh yes, most. 1296 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:02,959 Speaker 2: Of the daughters I know, their relationship with their mother 1297 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 2: is never just smooth sailing. 1298 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 4: It's interesting, is what it is. It's kind of like, 1299 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 4: it's not negative, it's not positive. It's just sort of 1300 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 4: its own interesting thing. 1301 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 2: Right right, I'll never be able to speak to it. 1302 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 2: My mom and I get along perfectly? Oh jealous? 1303 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 3: What is that like? 1304 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 2: No? 1305 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 3: I mean, my mom and I are great, but you know. 1306 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 2: Today, don't count on that forever? Yeah? What are I mean? Leone? 1307 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 2: The bee drink drink at the bee Society. There's got 1308 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 2: to be a book about drinking and bees. Give her 1309 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 2: a day off at the bee farm. I don't know. 1310 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 4: But also, I mean, just you got to respect your 1311 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 4: elders at this point in the game and just make 1312 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 4: it all about your mom. 1313 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 2: I think, what do you think is more a bigger 1314 01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 2: milestone thirtieth or sixtieth? I think sixty okay, interesting. 1315 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 4: Well, I haven't made it there yet, so I'm not sure, 1316 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 4: but it feels like it was big. 1317 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 3: But then fifty fifty is kind of big. 1318 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 2: Right, Fifty is a big one. 1319 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 4: I would say maybe thirty and fifty are pretty big ones, right, Yeah, 1320 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 4: I would say. 1321 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 2: So, it's a good question. Sixty you've been around longer, 1322 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 2: but I think at that point you've kind of figured 1323 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 2: it out. Thirty you're just about to have to figure 1324 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 2: it out. 1325 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 3: When you're sixty. I'm gonna call you and be like, 1326 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:24,959 Speaker 3: did you figure it out? 1327 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 2: No? Will I make it to sixty? It's anyone's guess. Oh, 1328 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that on the podcasts. 1329 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 3: Gonna be very mad at me that your mom will 1330 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 3: be mad. 1331 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 2: No, my boyfriend, whenever I talk about dying, he gets 1332 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 2: very sensitive. 1333 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,919 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, can you imagine he's like, cool, cool, cool, 1334 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 4: I don't care. Maybe leave it in the podcast how much? Well, 1335 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 4: never mind, Well, I'm know. I was gonna say podcasting 1336 01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 4: is interesting because how many people say things and they're. 1337 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 2: Like, oh, that's a good question. Not that many. I 1338 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 2: mean I think that the medium does make people slightly 1339 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 2: more comfortable because they're like, well, if I do say 1340 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 2: something stupid, I can say after, oh I didn't mean 1341 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 2: to say that, cut it out. It's not like live. 1342 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 2: If we were going straight to an audience, I would 1343 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 2: be freaking out right now. Yeah, but I've said heinous 1344 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 2: things every episode on this podcast. I say horrible things, 1345 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 2: just the worst, and you taking you cut it out 1346 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 2: out to keep you know, to keep people on my side. 1347 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 2: But every episode I say something that's just despicable. Wow, 1348 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 2: And I've said, you know, listener doesn't know what I 1349 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 2: said on this episode because I got cut out right. 1350 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 2: But you agree it was the worst thing you had 1351 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 2: ever heard. 1352 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 3: It was pretty bad, you guys. 1353 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 4: I am stressed that you've been asking to leave for 1354 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 4: quite a while, Stressed. 1355 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 3: That I'm in this person's backyard. 1356 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 4: There's some sort of gait, there's a gate in loud garbage. 1357 01:02:59,760 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 2: Try. 1358 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 3: I don't know where I am. I'm delirious. 1359 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:04,479 Speaker 2: This goes back to the heat. 1360 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 3: I think, Oh no, he's offered me water. I drank it. 1361 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 3: Who knows what you didn't see. 1362 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 2: Where the water came from. That's sewage. Okay, we answered 1363 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 2: the question. I have my avocado. We've got to get 1364 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 2: out of the heat. I want to get you out 1365 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 2: of the heat. Thank you, thank you for being here. 1366 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 2: This was such a wonderful time. 1367 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 3: Thank you. You're a wonderful person. Aside from all the 1368 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 3: things you said, no. 1369 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 2: One will ever know. They'll be deleted and sent to 1370 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 2: a digital graveyard. So no one came to me. 1371 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 3: Nothing's ever deleted. 1372 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 2: This is on some sort of server somewhere. The nssay's 1373 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 2: got it. Uh yes, thank you for being here. Listener. 1374 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 2: The episode's over. I'm dripping with sweat. I have to 1375 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 2: assume that Onalise Analise is probably I mean, has been 1376 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 2: basically sitting in the sun. My apologies to Analise. We're 1377 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna end the podcast. We have to get 1378 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 2: out of the heat. It's summer. Go do something nice 1379 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 2: for yourself. I love you. I said, no gifts is 1380 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 2: an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend 1381 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 2: Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by John Brandley. And 1382 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 2: we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. 1383 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 2: The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle 1384 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 2: worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram. 1385 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 2: At I said, no gifts. I don't want to hear 1386 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 2: any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of 1387 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 2: all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want 1388 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 2: to see pictures of the gifts? 1389 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 3: Li invit? Did you hear. 1390 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 1: Fun a man myself perfectly clear? When you're a guest 1391 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 1: to you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, 1392 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 1: your presences presents enough and I'm already too much stuff. 1393 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 1: So how do you dad disobey me