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Speaker 1: The pictures of Keen says that I had grown up

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Speaker 1: with of like my moms, my older cousins, were them

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Speaker 1: in these crazy dresses.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the poof dresses that I thought were mandatory.

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Speaker 3: More Better, More, a little more better More.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to More Better podcast, where we stop pretending to

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Speaker 1: have it all together and embrace the journey of becoming

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Speaker 1: a little more.

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Speaker 4: Better every day, or at least trying to. That's Stephanie

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Speaker 4: Beatrice and that's most for Merril. And here we are, Here,

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Speaker 4: we are, We're doing it again.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, guys, Welcome back. Thanks for listening to us

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Speaker 2: shoot the ship about different things.

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Speaker 4: Week after week. We appreciate you being here feeling vulnerable,

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Speaker 4: feeling like you're feeling and stuff us too. It's a party.

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Speaker 4: How you doing, steph Oh, I'm in Canada. I'm in

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Speaker 4: our neighbor to the north. Yes, you are in Canada,

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Speaker 4: in Toronto, Canada. You don't say Toronto. You say Toronto.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know the first t like it's a ch

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Speaker 4: and and you don't say the second tea. Try it Toronto.

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Speaker 4: There you go, I do it?

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Speaker 2: That was it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Was it that? Some effort? Okay, I know it's

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Speaker 4: hard to get, but once you do it, it's sort

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Speaker 4: of it. It becomes normal. But yeah, it's nice here.

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Speaker 4: People are nice. Everyone's like super super friendly. Canadians are friendly.

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Speaker 4: They really are. Man who gossip? They fucking love to wait.

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Speaker 4: I experienced that too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like in Vancouver.

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Speaker 4: In Vancouver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when I did Blockbuster, I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: the stereotype about Canadians being so nice is so true.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, but yeah, they will drop some gossip.

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Speaker 1: They will be like you know what I heard though,

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Speaker 1: you know why, well, you know.

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Speaker 4: Why, because they're so nice. They have to put it somewhere.

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Speaker 4: They have to put that vitrol. Yeah, that was my

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Speaker 4: feeling as well. You've got to get rid of it,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's got to go somewhere, so

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Speaker 4: And honestly, I appreciate the self control. I really do.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say were we could learn a thing or

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I prefer it. I prefer it. I would love

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Speaker 4: it exactly, So I'm doing good. I'm liking it here.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's I started the second season of Twisted Metal. It's

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Speaker 4: going really well. It's very fun. It's absolutely insanely wild because,

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Speaker 4: So if that's what's been going on, that's more better. Oh,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm just like living it. You know. Our

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Speaker 1: You really have to try to be present and stay

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right. Speaking of jobs and more better, what's

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Speaker 2: I have a job.

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Speaker 1: My pilot, Gross Point Guarden Society got picked up at NBC,

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Speaker 2: So excited. I'm very excited. It is as you were saying.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so.

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Speaker 2: Whenever getting you're getting better at it all the time.

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Speaker 2: It's a drama thing, your girls going back to the drama.

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Speaker 4: and I'm so excited for you, girl. It's really nice.

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Speaker 1: It's really nice to be No, I can like mentally

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Speaker 4: It's great. It's a blessing. Very grateful, very very grateful.

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Speaker 3: More Better.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of years, this week's topic is about years. It's

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Speaker 4: listeners who wrote in Melissa, will you read there? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, actually, before Melissa reads that, if you have

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Speaker 4: a suggestion for a future episode, email us at Morebetter

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Speaker 4: say bad words because we're doing that enough for you.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead. That's true.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this comes from Texas from Lisa and Kristen.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for starting more better.

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Speaker 1: We are fans of you both on the screen and

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Speaker 1: are excited to hear this podcast. We are twin sisters

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Speaker 1: turning forty next month. We're happy we can face this

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Speaker 1: milestone together, but we still have mixed feelings. What were

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Speaker 1: how'd y'all cope with them? Any words of wisdom would

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Speaker 1: be appreciated. Sincerely, Lisa and Kristen. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: Lisa and christ for this wonderful suggestion. Is actually such

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Speaker 1: a fun thing to talk about. And also I might

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Speaker 4: Milestone birthdays, man, they are a big milestone. Birthdays are

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Speaker 4: significant birthdays that mark an important stage in your life,

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Speaker 2: Birth so like they are those birthdays that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with all the people you love. You're important. You

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Speaker 2: like you didn't have a choice, Like if you have

437
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: a keen Say, that's way you have to wear.

438
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 4: And I just was not that girl.

439
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: So but then after I made the decision, then I

440
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: went to a couple keenses and I was like, oh shit,

441
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: this is super dope.

442
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 4: I wish I had done this shit. Oh shit, actually

443
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: can I? Yeah? My parents were like it's too late

444
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 4: to plan one now, Like, no, have you seen those

445
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 4: videos online of those women that are like older, They're

446
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 4: like they never had a keen sick because like when

447
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 4: they're having one in adulthood, no, and they're having one

448
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 4: as adult, they're so beautiful, cried many of them. They're

449
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 4: like really beautiful.

450
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: Well, I know when I'm going to be going what

451
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: rabbit hole I'm going to be going down tonight?

452
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you had a sweet sixteen instead.

453
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: So I had a sweet sixteen instead, and like I think,

454
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: I feel like it was my mom's idea. She was like, well,

455
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: let's have a sweet sixteen and we can do some

456
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: keense things at your sweet sixteen. And so we had

457
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: it at like a you know again, because like my

458
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: parents really couldn't afford much.

459
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 4: They rent.

460
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: They found a really cheap space at like a like

461
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: a va uh huh place.

462
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 2: Like an Elks club or whatever, you know.

463
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it basically was like a wood paneled

464
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: basement room is what it looked like. But it was

465
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: real cheap, and I had my sweet sixteen there and

466
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: I did the candle ceremony and I did, and I

467
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: did something else and maybe like I danced with my

468
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: dad or something like that, like.

469
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 4: Did you feel like Wow, I'm like, did you feel anything?

470
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 4: I did.

471
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: I remember being really excited and I loved my dress

472
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: that I bought. I had this like black long dress

473
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: with these like big flowers on it, and my mom

474
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: did my hair and in like a French twist with

475
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: like pieces hanging down, real ninety style, and.

476
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: It's it is back, I know, And oh god, I'll

477
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 2: try to see if I can find that picture for

478
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 2: the pod.

479
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 4: If you can find them, we have to put them

480
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: on the I feel like I might have one.

481
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was pumped and I did. I felt

482
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: like it was a milestone and it was like it

483
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: was the biggest birthday party I had in my whole life,

484
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: Like that and a slip in side party I had

485
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: when I was like eight were.

486
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 4: Like the two most dope party birthday parties of my

487
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 4: adolescent and.

488
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: It was Yeah, I remember being really.

489
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: Happy and really special and yeah, warm better.

490
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 2: You didn't have a sweet sixteen either, No.

491
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 4: I don't you know. At the time, I was really like,

492
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: I was so into I was really all when I

493
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 4: was in high school, like you rested and all.

494
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, you were clothing you know. I kind of was, yeah,

495
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 5: you know, you were straight edge.

496
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 4: We didn't do drugs or drink or drink and we

497
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 4: would like go see bands downtown and like you're so cool, blessed.

498
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 4: I wasn't. So it's I don't remember what I did.

499
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 4: I did something like silly, it was it was, you know,

500
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 4: I probably I had like some friends over to the

501
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 4: apartment complexes pool and that was it, Like yeah, it

502
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 4: just wasn't like the thing that felt like the more

503
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 4: The big birthday to me was when I turned eighteen,

504
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: because like, and I didn't have a party then either.

505
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: I don't remember having a party, but I remember the

506
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: feeling of like now and I you know, I'm this

507
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: is me being very honest. And I know my mother

508
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 4: would cry if she could hear this. Mom, don't listen

509
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 4: to the podcast. Stop it now, just hit pause now.

510
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 4: But I felt like I was going to be free

511
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 4: for the first time ever. I was like I can

512
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 4: leave here, I can run my own life. I'm gonna

513
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 4: my rules are my own, Like I'm out of here.

514
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: Like yeah, I remember I had got in a scholarship

515
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: to college, you know, so like I was like, I'm out,

516
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 4: I'm done. You can't you can't control me anymore, Like

517
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: you can't make me do what you like as long

518
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: as you're living under my roof. Yeah, like I'm not

519
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 4: going to be Yeah. So I remember that feeling like

520
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: I'm going to be free, Like it was so exciting

521
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: that eighteenth birthday, when I turned eighteen, I was like,

522
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: this is it, Like this is the beginning of the

523
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: rest of my life. That's how it felt. Yeah, yeah, god, ah, youth,

524
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: you I remember. Yeah.

525
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: Twenty one and twenty five also felt like big ones.

526
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: I remember I feel like I was sad during my

527
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: twenty fifth birthday, like because yeah, something about twenty five

528
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: felt like a lot of pressure, even though like looking

529
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: back is like, oh my god, it's so silly, But.

530
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: When you're in your twenties, thirty was heavy. Thirty was

531
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 4: the one for me. I was like, oh my I

532
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 4: think it was like twenty seven. I started to get

533
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: this feeling of like oh my god, oh my god.

534
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 4: And then when thirty hit, I was like, fuck, I

535
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 4: didn't do anything that I wanted to do. Although like

536
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: looking back, it's like all those years going mushed together anyway,

537
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: so yeah, it doesn't really matter, doesn't really matter, it

538
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 4: doesn't really matter.

539
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: And then you see how all of those years, all

540
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: those things you went through, prepared you for everything that

541
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: came in your thirties at least, like so much after, right,

542
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: and you're just like, oh, like, thank god all that

543
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: stuff happened because it made me tougher or it like

544
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: made me smarter or you know, yeah, it's it's yeah,

545
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: there is I think a little bit of right, like

546
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: blind faith you kind of have to have with these

547
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: like bigger birthdays or heavier birthdays of just like whatever

548
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: your feelings are of just like, but I got to

549
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: kind of trust that I'm where I'm supposed to be,

550
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And it's not

551
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: gonna make sense to me now, but hopefully I will

552
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: look back and be like, oh, that was a great

553
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: fucking time and I was so prepared for that moment.

554
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: I like the thing that you said in the beginning, too,

555
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: which is like you you maybe hadn't dealt with some

556
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: of the feelings that you were having about it. You're

557
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: like kind of pushing them down, and like then you

558
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 4: let them out and it was like okay, like that

559
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 4: I just had to move through it. It didn't it

560
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: didn't all come crashing down. No, because I let myself

561
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: feel fucking scared about having this big birthday, like it's scary.

562
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's like shit, I'm like that's how old I am, Like,

563
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: oh my god, like what happened? I especially because I think,

564
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: like now, even now sometimes still I'll like like I'll

565
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: open So when we came to Canada, right, I had

566
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: to like condense my wardrobe. Ugh, so hard for.

567
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: Me for those listening The text messages I received while

568
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: Stephanie was packing where the highlight of my day. I

569
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: basically I wanted to just stop everything I was doing

570
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: and just text with you about what you were choosing

571
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: to pack.

572
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 4: And I was mad that I had to like make

573
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: dinner for myself. Oh my god, I was. I was

574
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: like sending Melissa my my master list. But like I

575
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 4: opened the closet here and I look at my clothes

576
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: and I'm like, this is exactly how I dressed in

577
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 4: high school. Like I still feel sometimes like oh yeah,

578
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen, I still feel sometimes like I'm twenty five.

579
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: I just feel sometimes like I'm thirty three, you know,

580
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: like just because it's all you, all of it is you,

581
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: all of them, and it's all arbitrary, like moments are you.

582
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: If you had asked me in my twenties, like how

583
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 2: I would be in my forties and be like, oh,

584
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have all my shit figured out by then,

585
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: and it's like I don't know what the fuck I'm

586
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: doing still, Like I.

587
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: Know, I don't know.

588
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: I am so bad at adulting and it's.

589
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: Fine, now cut yourself, Okay, you're pretty good at it

590
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: in some areas.

591
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 4: I'm I'm yes, thank you, yes, And you're better than

592
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: you were ten years ago. I am away, Yes, you

593
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: are better than you were. I am so much like

594
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: you're never gonna have all the answers, No, not until

595
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 4: the day you die, you know, like even then it'll

596
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 4: be like.

597
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: And I think like accepting that and being cool with

598
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: that and knowing that, like that's just the ride, man,

599
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: Like that's what it is.

600
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 4: It is.

601
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: More better.

602
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 4: Before we sort of like and this I think I

603
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 4: want to say to the twins, I call them the

604
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 4: twins now. I think like, particularly for forty, there's this

605
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: there's this some something that this psychoanalyst Eric Ericsson talks

606
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 4: about like you're starting this era of your new of

607
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 4: your life that's the generativity versus stagnation era, so like

608
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 4: from forty to sixty five. And it's like he talks

609
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: about how people focus on their legacy and like what

610
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: they can leave behind, and this stage of your life

611
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: can be characterized by a found need to give to others.

612
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: So like in terms of like home, that can mean

613
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: like raising your children, or like being part of your

614
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 4: community and like your your social circle or your community

615
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: in your neighborhood or your city or your state. On

616
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: the workfront, it can mean like about like thinking about

617
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: like finding ways to be more productive at work. But

618
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: like what I think about this is like it does

619
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: make you think about turning forty makes you think about dying, right,

620
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: and like that can be Yeah, that can be fucked up, right,

621
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: but it also can be really freeing because it's like

622
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: not like I have a race against the clock. It's

623
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 4: just like, oh, right, that is inevitable. It comes for

624
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: us all. So what do I want to do and

625
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: how do I want to be? And like like our

626
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: friend Lanes says all the time to me, like how

627
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: do I want to be inside. Yeah, I don't want

628
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: to be inside about things in this part of my life.

629
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: You're so right. I do think I have so much more.

630
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 1: I have so much more appreciation for my time, like

631
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: I have, I put more value on it, do you

632
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And like I'm more conscious of

633
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: like how I spend it and who I spend it with.

634
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: And I think that that only comes with getting older.

635
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. I Like the last thing I'll say before I

636
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: go is like you made it. You made it to forty,

637
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: you made it to forty one, you made it to

638
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: sixty five. If you made it there, you know, it's.

639
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: Like you just reminded me of yes, yes, you just

640
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: reminded me of when I turned thirty and my childhood

641
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: best friend had also turned thirty, and she had been

642
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: through a really really rough year like have you know

643
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: lost her mom and like all this horrible stuff had

644
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: happened or her mom was sick anyway, and I I

645
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: remember I was like trying to think of like something.

646
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: It was her birthday and I was like, Oh, she's

647
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: had like such a rough year and this has been

648
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: so hard and Dad, I don't even know like just

649
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: saying like happy birthdays feels fucking lame, you know. And

650
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: so I started like googling birthdays and researching and it

651
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: was like the whole idea of the birthday party or

652
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: the birthday celebration goes way back to like when people

653
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: when people only lived to like thirty five, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it was and it was like, you celebrated because

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Speaker 1: you survived another year. Ship, that's why you threw a party.

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Speaker 1: You threw a party because when you were fucking caves,

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Speaker 1: you didn't get Ryan didn't eat you. This year, you

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Speaker 1: made it like you didn't get the fucking plague likes,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 4: And so I was like, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I just have to remind her that she survived and

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Speaker 2: that is worthy of a celebration.

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Speaker 4: Is like she survived this year.

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Speaker 1: And I think about that all the time of like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's like, yeah, look

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Speaker 2: at you.

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Speaker 4: You're here. You made it, you did it. That's enough.

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Speaker 4: That's enough to throw a party, son, Kristen, you fucking

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Speaker 4: made it, made it. Throw a party with all your life.

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Speaker 2: If you want, if you want, if you want, if

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 4: If you want, if you want, do whatever you want

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Speaker 4: you do whatever? Do you feel a little a little

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Speaker 4: more better about this? Do you feel more better?

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Speaker 1: I also have a birthday coming up really soon that

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Speaker 1: I was having a little bit of feelings about.

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Speaker 4: But I do I feel better? Yeah? Do you feel

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Speaker 4: more better? I feel a little more better?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think I even like realized how

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Speaker 4: sort of like even keeled I feel about this. I

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Speaker 4: say this now, and then like the next birthday, I

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Speaker 4: have all like text time crying like I don't know

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Speaker 4: what to do. I don't like my life is.

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Speaker 2: So nuts, and I'll be like, let's go get drunk girl.

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Speaker 4: And with that we leave you, audience, dear sweet listeners,

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Speaker 4: see you next time, See you next time. Bye bye.

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Speaker 3: Better.

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Speaker 4: Do you have something you'd like to be more better

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Speaker 4: at that you want us to talk about in a

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Speaker 4: future episodes?

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Speaker 1: Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried

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Speaker 1: one of our tips and tricks?

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Speaker 2: Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at More Better pod at.

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Speaker 4: Gmail dot com and include a voice note if you

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Speaker 4: want to be featured on the pod. Ooh, More Better

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Speaker 4: with Stephanie Melissa is a production from Wvsound and iHeartMedia's

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Speaker 4: Mikultura podcast Network, hosted by Me, Stephanie Beatriz, and Melissa Fumero.

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Speaker 4: More Better is produced by Isis Madrid, Leo Clem, and

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Speaker 4: Sophie Spencer Zabos. Our executive producers are Wilmer Valderrama and

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Speaker 4: Leo Clem at Wvsound. This episode was edited by Isis

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Speaker 4: Madrid and engineered by Sean Tracy and features original music

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Speaker 4: by Madison Davenport and Heylo Boy.

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Speaker 1: Our cover art is by Vincent Remis and photography by

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Speaker 2: Saga Bye,