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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and Getty.

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Speaker 2: And He.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: So the Grammys were last night and Beyonce one Album

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Speaker 3: of the Year for her country album. This is the

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Speaker 3: only song I'd heard from it. We played this back

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Speaker 3: when it came out.

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Speaker 1: I spent some time.

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Speaker 3: Listening to the album last night, way way, way more

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Speaker 3: artsy than I was expecting. It's like a what do

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Speaker 3: you call it when you got a theme through a

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Speaker 3: whole album?

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Speaker 1: Concept album? Concept album? Yeah, concept album with a lot

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Speaker 1: of giant, famous country.

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Speaker 3: Stars and that sort of stuff. I'm and okay, album

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Speaker 3: of the year whatever, whatever that means. You know, the

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Speaker 3: calling something the best art is weird to start with, fine,

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Speaker 3: but best country album.

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Speaker 1: I just I find that interesting. Okay.

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Speaker 2: It was absolutely a clear example the Grammys do this,

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Speaker 2: the Oscars do this, that somebody got snubbed or passed

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Speaker 2: over in the past, and they're a super giant star,

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Speaker 2: and you think, all right, let's give him a like

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Speaker 2: a Beck got Album of the Year for an album

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Speaker 2: I listened to twice and said, I'm never listening to this.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: I listened to it still. I listened to the other day.

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Speaker 3: I loved that album. Yeah, I just didn't scratch you

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Speaker 3: were I.

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Speaker 2: But it's fairly rare that people think that's better than like,

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Speaker 2: oh Delay or what was the second one that was

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Speaker 2: so great?

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Speaker 1: But anyway, they it's like a career.

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Speaker 2: We should have given you something before thinks, hey, she's

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Speaker 2: a great star and singer whatever. I don't know, like

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Speaker 2: you say words for kind of eh. If Noah what's

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Speaker 2: his name hadn't been the host, it had been easier

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Speaker 2: for me to watch.

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Speaker 1: God dang it, that guy rubs me the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: I find him so grating.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's not funny and then his political jokes. Just

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Speaker 3: shut up, dude, Why why?

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Speaker 1: Who likes him? Right? Like kimmels him? But he's funny.

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Speaker 3: Taylor chefs I thought Taylor Swift though clinking glasses with

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Speaker 3: jay Z when Beyonce won Best Album like looking genuinely

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Speaker 3: happy for her. I think that's part of the hole.

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Speaker 3: It's like the way Elon Musk's happy. I mean, you're

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Speaker 3: so rich and so successful, you can't get under my skin.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to do something you think I care

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Speaker 3: whatever good for you, have a good time, have a

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Speaker 3: nice night, enjoy your life.

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Speaker 2: I don't care, right, what are you gonna do if

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Speaker 2: I had her money at burn mine?

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Speaker 3: Exactly as they say, here's what's going on with the

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Speaker 3: whole tariff thing. If you haven't been paying attention, This

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Speaker 3: is at o'keef on CBS News.

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Speaker 4: So starting Tuesday, there will be twenty five percent tariffs

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Speaker 4: on all Mexican exports, twenty five percent tariffs on most

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Speaker 4: Canadian exports, ten percent tariffs on Canadian energy exports, and

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Speaker 4: ten percent tariffs on all goods from China. This morning,

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Speaker 4: the President acknowledged this could lead to higher prices, writing

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Speaker 4: will there be some pain? Yes, maybe and maybe not,

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Speaker 4: he wrote on his social media platform, but we will

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Speaker 4: make America a great again, and it will all be

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Speaker 4: worth the price that must be paid.

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Speaker 1: This is not my lane.

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Speaker 3: Tariff talking economics, but a couple questions I have just

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Speaker 3: from observing this. First of all, I remember when Trump

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Speaker 3: put tariffs on China the first time around first term,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of the hewing and crying of how

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Speaker 3: dom and awful this was from mainstream media. And then

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Speaker 3: the Biden administration came in and left them in place,

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Speaker 3: didn't do anything about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have no problem with with the China tariffs.

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Speaker 2: It's an untenable, ugly relationship with a bitter adversary. On

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Speaker 2: the other hand, Mexico and Canada are not our bitter adversaries.

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Speaker 2: There close allies and huge trading partners. It just I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna hit you with anvila headlines. Then we'll go from there.

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Speaker 2: The dumbest Oh wait a minute, there is the dumbest

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Speaker 2: trade war. Fallout begins the dumbest trade war in history.

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Speaker 2: Tump Trump tariff's Americans will pay a severe price if

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Speaker 2: they remain in effect too long. Trump's move to put

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Speaker 2: tariff hikes ahead of tax Putts's cuts have spooke to

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Speaker 2: almost everyone.

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Speaker 1: Mexico and Canada fireback.

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Speaker 2: Those are all from conservative media, by the way, business

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Speaker 2: friendly conservative media. So there's there's a great deal of

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Speaker 2: angst over these tariffs and whether they're the right move.

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Speaker 2: I think the if I were to boil down the

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Speaker 2: main objection among Trump friendly tending to be Trump friendly media,

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Speaker 2: it's that the tariffs and what they're claiming to be

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Speaker 2: accomplishing are just disconnected. We're gonna stop the illegal immigration

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Speaker 2: and drugs by punishing our neighbors with tariffs until they comply.

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Speaker 2: You know that it might work eventually, I suppose, but

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Speaker 2: it's gonna just hurt consumers in the meantime. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: staunch growth and raise inflation almost certainly.

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Speaker 3: Does this make pretty boy Trudeau unhappy? Because if it

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Speaker 3: makes him unhappy, it makes me happy. Huh that's a

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Speaker 3: good standard, right. They find him annoying.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's terribly annoying. I had one pushback on that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely willing to get to Uh.

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Speaker 2: Robert Leitthheiser, who's been defending Trump policies lately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's mostly around China, which, as you were saying,

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Speaker 3: it's a lot more easily defended because we are in

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Speaker 3: a war for control of the earth with China. Okay,

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Speaker 3: here's the thing about Trump. Okay, go ahead. CEO of

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Speaker 3: Canada's second biggest company defends Trump's tariff demands, slams Trudeau

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Speaker 3: for not stopping the trade war. This is the guy

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Speaker 3: who runs Shopify, which is a very big company you

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Speaker 3: might be familiar with. These are things that every Canadian

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Speaker 3: wants its government to do. These are not crazy demands,

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Speaker 3: even if they come from an unpopular source, said Toby

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Speaker 3: lock Letkey, who co founded Shopify. So uh, it's not

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Speaker 3: all why are you doing this to us.

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Speaker 1: Up in Canada? Just one point.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand his point. But when he

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Speaker 2: gave the guy from Shopify is in favor of it,

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Speaker 2: What was I going to say?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: The thing about Trump, the way he's always done business.

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Speaker 3: When he's in business.

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Speaker 1: He walks up and grabs you by the pward. Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: I don't even have one.

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Speaker 2: No, he will at any point he decides say no,

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Speaker 2: our deal is no longer on, we need to renegotiate it.

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Speaker 2: And he constantly beats up his suppliers and his contractors

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Speaker 2: still profitable enough people do business with him because generally,

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Speaker 2: you know, with a bad run, as the exception at

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Speaker 1: But he's a brutal, brutal negotiator.

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Speaker 2: The problem is doing this with allies and international relations

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Speaker 2: is it's not like your local plumbers union.

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Speaker 3: But man if He's got a theme throughout his adult

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Speaker 3: life whenever he would talk politics, it was about other

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Speaker 3: countries are taking advantage of us, and why do we

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Speaker 3: let this happen? I mean, he's been talking about this

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Speaker 3: for decades before he ever decided to run for president.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well in a lot of cases.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here's this guy, Robert Leethhauser, who's been around Republican

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Speaker 3: economics politics going way back to Reagan. He was on

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Speaker 3: Sixty Minutes last night specifically defending well tariffs in general,

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Speaker 3: but specifically around China. Here's him explaining what a threat

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Speaker 3: China is to the United States.

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Speaker 6: China, to me, is an existential threat to the United States.

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Speaker 6: It is a very, very competent adversary. China views itself

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Speaker 6: as number one in the world and wants to be

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Speaker 6: that way. They view us as in the way they

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Speaker 6: have the biggest army in the world and they're growing it,

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Speaker 6: the biggest navy in the world, and they're growing it.

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Speaker 6: They're spying on us, they're taking our technology. They've been

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Speaker 6: waging an economic war against the United States and winning

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Speaker 6: that war for at least the last three decades.

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Speaker 3: And nobody was saying that out loud before Trump came along,

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Speaker 3: even though it has been going on for a long time.

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Speaker 3: So he's in favor of decoupling in every way from China,

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Speaker 3: and he explains that, So your tariff regime for China

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Speaker 6: I believe in strategic decoupling. I'm not saying no economic

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Speaker 6: relationship with Sean That's not my position at all. I

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Speaker 6: think you want balance trade, and how do you get

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Speaker 6: balance trade. You're going to get balance trade by having

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Speaker 6: large tariffs on most of what they send us.

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Speaker 1: What's large?

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Speaker 6: You know the President has floated numbers fifty sixty percent,

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Speaker 6: but I think there are big numbers like that.

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Speaker 3: Wow, those are big numbers. And then one more explanation

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Speaker 3: of that we can discuss.

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Speaker 6: Wait a minute, you're talking about decoupling from China, what

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Speaker 6: would that look like? So it is strategic decoupling, so

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Speaker 6: we would still have trade.

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Speaker 1: So I would say, we sell.

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Speaker 6: You one hundred and fifty billion, we buy one hundred

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Speaker 6: and fifty billion from you.

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Speaker 4: No more.

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Speaker 6: We don't allow investments in China except in circumstances where

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Speaker 6: we believe that's in the interest of the United States.

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Speaker 6: We don't allow inbound investments. So we begin to disentangle.

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Speaker 6: We disentangle our technology. You could ask yourself, what is

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Speaker 6: China's policy towards us. It is exactly a mere image

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Speaker 6: of what I just said. So what I'm suggesting we

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Speaker 6: do to China is what they.

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Speaker 1: Do to us. That made an impact on me.

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Speaker 3: They've been doing this forever, but we were, well, we've

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Speaker 3: talked about this a lot. We had this fanciful belief

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Speaker 3: going all the way back to Nixon and through every

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Speaker 3: giant economic powerhouse and they're going to be part of

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Speaker 3: our backs the whole time, saying, yeah, make us powerful,

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Speaker 3: then we're going to take over the world and do

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Speaker 3: whatever the hell we want.

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Speaker 2: And just purely economically speaking, even though the deal was

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Speaker 2: tilted strongly in their favor, we were still it was

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Speaker 2: still good for the economy in general, not so much

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Speaker 2: for manufacturers when we're going to talk about that China

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Speaker 2: shock a little bit later. But you know, overall, it

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Speaker 2: was fine to give them a better deal than we

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Speaker 2: my objection to this, and here it is, it's not

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Speaker 2: like I walk around, you know, barking at people about

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Speaker 2: tariff policy all the time.

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Speaker 1: He got Joe get ready to hear tariff talk.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, budget, yeah, I'm finishing up a concept

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Speaker 2: album all about tariffs. I'm working with Beyonce. Anyway, that's

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Speaker 2: that's not it. I mean, I actually have beliefs about it,

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Speaker 2: but I don't feel that strongly about it. Here's what

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Speaker 2: I feel strongly about. I believe, barring some sort of

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Speaker 2: hard turn, and Trump might make one because he is

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Speaker 2: a fan of the giant gesture that gets the small concession,

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Speaker 2: he declares victory and then calls off the dogs. If

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Speaker 2: that's the plan, Okay, that's Trump being Trump.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: But if he goes ahead with the tariffs, especially with

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Speaker 2: a serious, serious consequence for American consumers. Their lives are

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Speaker 2: going to get significantly more expensive. They're going to see

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Speaker 3: From nineteen seventy seven International Emergency Economic Powers Act. All Right,

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Speaker 1: Deep?

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's some crazy stuff going on immigration for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he may and that may be successful. I

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Speaker 3: He's super pissed off about this too. There's this point

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. I hope not.

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Speaker 1: So, but again, not China. China's totally different. If you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and advertising as well, trying to convince people that

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Speaker 3: But aging happens to everybody. All their diseases out there

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Speaker 3: Your aging is a major contributor to death, You're absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And that could make it easier to get drugs

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Speaker 3: what point do you start that? I want to start

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Speaker 3: that as as a two year old? And this is

443
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Speaker 3: this is rare. Why don't we take at least one

444
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Speaker 3: phone call. Let's see on the screen that says, God

445
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Speaker 3: Almighty's on the line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for bringing this up. Here's the story. Yeah,

447
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Speaker 2: you don't want to be immortal, all right? Trust me,

448
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Speaker 2: I've kind of planned the whole thing out, so don't

449
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Speaker 2: go messing with it, all right, love your show, longtime listener,

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Speaker 2: First time call it click.

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Speaker 1: I'll take my answer off the air. Yeah, worry.

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Speaker 2: Calling aging a disease could lead to financial exploitation by

453
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Speaker 2: the anti aging industry, capitalizing on quick fixes to cure aging.

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Speaker 2: For instance, there's this one therapist who said I can

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Speaker 2: have an eighty year old who can still ski dance

456
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Speaker 2: or run a marathon, and I can have a forty

457
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Speaker 2: year old who doesn't move much and can't do any

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Speaker 2: of that age, the number is not at all an

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Speaker 2: indicator of anything.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's very true, and I know people like that myself.

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Speaker 3: Do I have to ask to a weak ass argument?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's I'm sorry, just on a logical that

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Speaker 2: bothers me from a perspective of logic, because that's the

464
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Speaker 2: exact same argument that, well, there are some men who

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Speaker 2: could be beat by some women in sports, therefore transgender

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Speaker 2: people in sports is fine.

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Speaker 3: But I just want to nail this down. Just because

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Speaker 3: I can dance when I'm mighty, do I have to?

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Speaker 3: Or is it still optional unless this chick.

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Speaker 1: Makes you so.

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Speaker 3: The other day, I'm at I'm at the Jim the

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Speaker 3: club thing where I go to a lift weight, and

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Speaker 3: there's some peopeople playing tennis, and they were noticeably on

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Speaker 3: the older end of people playing tennis, like quite a

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Speaker 3: bit older than you generally see out in the tennis court.

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Speaker 1: They looked like old.

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Speaker 3: Men, kind of fat upper bodies, skinny little white legs

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Speaker 3: with their white socks pulled up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they looked like old men. But and I

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Speaker 1: just watched for a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I thought one of those going to look like and man,

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Speaker 3: they were whipping that ball around. I thought they would

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Speaker 3: just crush me. I mean, I've never been really a

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Speaker 3: tennis player, but I am a lot younger than these people.

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Speaker 3: That turned out they would just crush me, and I thought, wow,

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Speaker 3: that's interesting. So I got down lifting weights at the

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Speaker 3: same time that they quit. And I don't know if

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Speaker 3: this guy liked this question or not, but I said,

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Speaker 3: excuse me, I can I ask you?

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Speaker 1: How old are you? He said, how old do you

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Speaker 1: think I am?

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Speaker 3: I said, I don't know, but I watched you playing

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Speaker 3: tennis out there, and you would crush me. He said,

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Speaker 3: I'm eighty five, and he stomped off like I don't

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Speaker 3: know if he was happy.

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Speaker 1: To tell me that or Matt I asked, or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I thought, you're eighty five freaking years old and you're playing.

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Speaker 1: Tennis like that.

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Speaker 3: They didn't three other guys. I mean, it's just it

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Speaker 3: was really quite a yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The final point they make is that sometimes doctors will

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Speaker 2: dismiss a symptom as a sign of aging when it

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Speaker 2: is really something bad going on, and they shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: That's a bad doctor anyway. They're not going to declare

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Speaker 2: aging and disease. Then I thought this was interesting also healthwise.

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Speaker 1: This is a completely.

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Speaker 2: Different topic, but we talked about it briefly off the air,

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Speaker 2: and people seem interested in this.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to quote from an article.

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Speaker 2: A retired psychologist I know who worked for a prominent

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Speaker 2: hospital seeing very complex cases, told me that cluster B

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Speaker 2: personality disorders are the scariest thing to work with. He said,

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Speaker 2: they are the scariest because they're basically untreatable and they

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Speaker 2: do so much damage to the people around them.

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Speaker 3: And I just heard the term, but I'm not familiar with. Okay,

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Speaker 3: for a layman, what is a cluster B personality disorder?

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Speaker 1: Right? Which is all of us? Certainly?

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Speaker 2: The best thing you can do is learn to identify

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Speaker 2: the behavior cluster B personalities display and stare clear of them.

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Speaker 2: They are destructive, deceitful, narcissistic, and grandiose, while at the

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Speaker 2: same time often struggling intense feelings of worthlessness and fear

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Speaker 2: of abandonment. One clue should be that they cause chaos

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Speaker 2: everywhere they go, often dragging other people into their webs

525
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Speaker 2: of destruction.

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Speaker 3: Oh you hate to be drug into the old wod

527
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Speaker 3: right right drama queens?

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Speaker 2: Uh, what was the other professional victims?

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Speaker 1: That sort of thing. And I'll get more into the specifics.

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Speaker 2: But research has found that cluster beat personalities tend to

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Speaker 2: be involved in more litigation. For instance, don't get sucked

532
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Speaker 2: into the web of chaos. They don't love you, they

533
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Speaker 2: use you and then hate you.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, here's the specifics.

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Speaker 3: Can they help it or control it? Are they just

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Speaker 3: built that way? Do they know they're doing it? That's

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Speaker 3: what I was walking about. That's a really interesting question.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know what, let's let's let's go ahead

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Speaker 3: with some of the specifics and then come back to

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Speaker 3: that question.

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Speaker 1: Old web a destruction.

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Speaker 2: People with BPDPD experience wide mood swings, can feel a

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Speaker 2: sense of instability and insecurity. According to the Die Agnostic

544
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Speaker 2: Statistical Manual Diazactic Framework, some key signs and symptoms. They

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Speaker 2: include frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment by

546
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Speaker 2: friends and family, Unstable personal relationships that alternate between idealization

547
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Speaker 2: I'm so in love and devaluation I hate her. This

548
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Speaker 2: is also sometimes known as splitting, distorted and unstable self image,

549
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Speaker 2: which affects, moods, values, opinions, goals and relationships. Impulsive behaviors

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Speaker 2: that can have dangerous outcomes, excess of spending on safe sex,

551
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Speaker 2: reckless driving, misuse or overuse substances, self harming behavior, including

552
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Speaker 2: suicidal thoughts, periods of intense depressed mood, irritability or anxiety,

553
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Speaker 2: chronic feelings of boredom and emptiness, inappropriate, intense or uncontrollable anger,

554
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Speaker 2: often followed by shame and guilt. Wait a minute, that's

555
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Speaker 2: just my Friday night.

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Speaker 3: Well, one of the problems with a lot of your

557
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Speaker 3: psychological problems is everybody's got a little a lot of

558
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Speaker 3: less staff. Sure, it's just the degree, is the problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I was thinking the same thing as I

560
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Speaker 1: was reading.

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Speaker 3: Name me somebody who isn't ever selfish or irritable or

562
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Speaker 3: down or whatever. So yeah, it's all the degree or

563
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Speaker 3: sometimes confident and sometimes in sure. Yeah, yeah, let's see.

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Speaker 3: The antisocial personality disorder is a pattern of disregard for

565
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Speaker 3: in violation of the rights of others. It's a pattern

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Speaker 3: of instability and an interpersonal relationship self image and effects

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Speaker 3: and marked impulsivity. It's you know what, It strikes me

568
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Speaker 3: as having, you know, gone through this whole thing is it's.

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Speaker 1: The professional victim.

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Speaker 2: Drama queen who just has all of our king, who

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Speaker 2: has all of those things we were describing in a

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Speaker 2: way that that damage relationships and make people around them miserable.

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Speaker 2: But the original thing is that they are un they say,

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Speaker 2: they're basically untreatable. Why is that completely Yeah, but I've

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Speaker 2: some people emerged from childhood so damaged. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how much help you can give for.

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Speaker 1: That whole question.

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Speaker 3: I was having this conversation with the doctor the other

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Speaker 3: day when I was there about kids. His kids are

580
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Speaker 3: his daughter is now going to come work in his office.

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Speaker 3: She went to medical school, but she had lots of

582
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Speaker 3: struggles when she was younger with a variety of things.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, he was talking about how we all learn

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Speaker 3: once we start parenting, is we have less say and

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Speaker 3: how they're going to turn out than we thought we

586
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Speaker 3: did at the beginning, And that whole thing is just amazing,

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Speaker 3: you know, to what extent you have. He was using

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Speaker 3: the example of like bumpers on a bowling alley, you

589
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Speaker 3: can be the bumpers on the bowling alley keep from

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Speaker 3: going this far or that far. But that whole part

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Speaker 3: in the middle is them and they're gonna do their thing.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really good metaphor yeah, yeah, try

593
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Speaker 2: not to be one of those people, and if you're

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Speaker 2: one of them, be better.

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Speaker 3: I think this is this is interesting. I know in

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Speaker 3: the world of like addiction stuff, there is tend you

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Speaker 3: tend to be one of two kind of people, although

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Speaker 3: again everybody's a little bit of all these things, but

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Speaker 3: you tend to be one or the other of everything

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Speaker 3: is somebody else's fault or everything is my fault. I

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Speaker 3: tend to be more of the latter, and like everything

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Speaker 3: that's gone wrong is my fault and uh and never

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Speaker 3: you know they did this, you might want to take

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Speaker 3: that in consideration, or that person is a lying jerk

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Speaker 3: or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So people tend to be one of those. In the

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Speaker 1: world of addiction and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Everything is someone else's fault or everything's my fault, and

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Speaker 3: neither one of those is accurate.

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Speaker 1: Obviously. You know, it just popped into my head.

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Speaker 2: Who is the perfect manifestation of a cluster B personality

612
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Speaker 2: disorder from fiction?

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Speaker 1: And that would be Tony Soprano's mom on The Sopranos.

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Speaker 1: She was that.

615
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Speaker 2: Right destructive, deceitful, narcissistic, and grandiose, while at the same

616
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Speaker 2: time struggling with intense feelings of worthlessness and fear of abandonment.

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Speaker 3: And you'd get pulled into her web and uh.

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Speaker 1: You're better off not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. Anyway, we can post this at armstrong

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Speaker 2: and giddy dot com if you want.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got.

622
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Speaker 3: All kinds of people thinking about their sister, or their mom,

623
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Speaker 3: or their gutsin or their brother, their coworker. Oh poor you, exactly,

624
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Speaker 3: Oh poor you. We got more on the way.

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Speaker 7: Punk Satani Phil, the Seer of Sears, was awakened from

626
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Speaker 7: his wintry.

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Speaker 1: Nap at dawn on Gobbler's knob. Phil looked to the skies.

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Speaker 7: And then, speaking in groundhog gies, directed the President to

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Speaker 7: the proper scroll, which reads, It's crowndhog Day and maybe

630
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Speaker 7: life is on a loop. But I missed my burrow,

631
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Speaker 7: I miss my coop, so I'm headed back down.

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Speaker 1: There's a shadow up here.

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Speaker 7: Get ready for six more weeks of winter this year.

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Speaker 3: This might be the silliest things human beings do on Earth.

635
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Speaker 3: I mean, when the English people chase a cheese downhill,

636
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Speaker 3: that's pretty silly too, but this is right up to

637
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Speaker 3: that makes more sense at least to an athletic event. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what the hell and the else uncomfortable with a gobbler's

639
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Speaker 3: nob and mixed company just asking.

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Speaker 1: We have breaking tariff news, breaking tariff news, the news

641
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Speaker 1: breaks the donkey brains. Has Mexico caved? Maybe that's what

642
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Speaker 1: Trump is counting on.

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Speaker 3: The tariffs are supposed to hit tonight, tariff Tuesday tomorrow, China, Mexico,

644
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Speaker 3: Canada under the thumb of the United States, but the

645
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Speaker 3: pause is on for Mexico. The Trump administration has agreed

646
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Speaker 3: to pause the tariffs as the president of Canada whose

647
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Speaker 3: last name I mean Mexico, whose last name does not

648
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Speaker 3: sound Mexican at all, Shinebam.

649
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Speaker 1: President Scheinbaum of.

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Speaker 3: Mexico said in a tweet that she had a conversation

651
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Speaker 3: with Trump and in Mexico agreed to fortify its border

652
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Speaker 3: with ten thousand national troops to try to block the

653
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Speaker 3: flow of drugs, especially fentanel across the border, and the

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Speaker 3: United States are Goua said, We're going to try to

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Speaker 3: hammer out some different details over the next month.

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Speaker 2: I spent my entire life savings trying to corner the

657
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Speaker 2: huacamole market.

658
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Speaker 1: Now it's all wasted. That's great, that's okay.

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Speaker 2: You know, I wondered whether that's was Trump what he

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Speaker 2: was doing all along, you know, gaining momentum for other

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Speaker 2: stuff through the threat of tariffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we all know the story from last weekend

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Speaker 3: when we were sending illegal criminals back to Colombia and

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Speaker 3: President Columbia said, no, you're not, You're not send them here.

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Speaker 3: And Trump said, okay, fine, huge tariffs and they said,

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Speaker 3: I go ahead.

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Speaker 1: And send them.

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Speaker 3: We'll send a plane and pick them up. Took like

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Speaker 3: an hour get Columbia to cave. Mexico has at least

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Speaker 3: agreed to agree to talk about a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: We'll see where Canada is. Trudeau looks pretty tough to me.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh, we'll see how long and now now is

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Speaker 3: Canada and Canada that's true to get to make the

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Speaker 3: decision on his own, like Trump gets to make the

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Speaker 3: decision here on his own.

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Speaker 2: Apparently you're asking me about Canadian trade policies.

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Speaker 3: It's just weird all the way around that one human

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Speaker 3: being in any of these countries would be making these decisions.

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Speaker 3: These are big financial decisions, and they're taxes. That's what

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Speaker 3: we have legislatures for. Here's the thing with me. I

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Speaker 3: thought that Canada's got to be our fifty first state

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Speaker 3: thing was funny, but he doubled down on it over

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Speaker 3: the weekend, like he's serious. Canada is unsustainable on its own.

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Speaker 3: It needs to become our beloved fifty first state.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, come on.

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Speaker 3: National Reviews had some great writing over the last couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks about why that would be a bad idea,

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Speaker 3: because for a number of reasons. First of all, you'd

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Speaker 3: be adding another state the size of California that's to

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Speaker 3: the left of California police by a lot. There's no

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Speaker 3: culture of free speech in Canada going back centuries, or

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Speaker 3: a lot of other things you don't like, uh, universal

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Speaker 3: healthcare and all kinds of other stuff you don't Why

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Speaker 3: would Why would I, as a right leading gentleman, want

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Speaker 3: another to the left of the California giant state that

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Speaker 3: would swing presidential elections?

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Speaker 1: No? Thanks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about y'all figure your crazy ass up out

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Speaker 2: up there and we continue to be trade partners and

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Speaker 2: play hockey together and our friends and that's good enough.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to marry.

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Speaker 3: Them unless you're a progressive or oot of your mind

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Speaker 3: as a conservative. It's just not a good idea right

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Speaker 3: right here here, Jo got a very exciting tease here.

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Speaker 3: You know that movie, the transgender thirteen Oscar nominations musical

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Speaker 3: nightmare movie we've been talking about. I took one for

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Speaker 3: the team over the weekend, folks, and I watched it. Well,

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Speaker 3: that wasn't a fair trade. I watched the Bob Dylan movie,

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Speaker 3: which was awesome. You watch the trans Oscar winner movie.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna need months of counseling. I'll tell you about

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Speaker 2: it next out.

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Speaker 1: I do want to hear about it. That's I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. I didn't watch that beautiful relationship.

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Speaker 3: I watched the music performances on the Grammys, but nothing else.

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Speaker 1: Oscar Night. I'm gonna be watching for the speeches.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna take it so far over the

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Speaker 3: top it's gonna be crazy.

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Speaker 1: Bet your bottom dollar really a lot on the way.

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Speaker 3: If you missed a segment or an hour, get the

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Speaker 3: podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty