1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome in Debate Eve is here. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: Tomorrow chaos unspools across the nation. Potentially we will be 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: talking debate. We have got some good news from as 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: we told you, might well be the case the sixteenth 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: Congressional District of New York where Jamal Bowman was smoked 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: by George Latimer. The first member of the squad goes 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: down Corey Bush in the Saint Louis area. Also decent 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: likelihood that she may lose, so we will talk about that. 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: What is the significance the Congressman Jim Jordan is going 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: to join us at two thirty. Couple of big news 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: stories that came from the House yesterday. We will discuss 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: that with him. And again, as I mentioned, is debate Eve. 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: But we begin with an unfortunate Supreme Court ruling. We 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: are still waiting for the presidential immunity ruling on Donald 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: Trump and how far presidential powers extend. That is likely 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: I believe to come down next week along with the 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: jan sixth related opinion. There are still opinions coming out 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday, but given the fact that the debate 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: is tomorrow, I suppose they could drop them on Friday. 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: After the debate I think it's most likely that they 21 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 2: will drop them into early July, going into the July 22 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: fourth holiday. But big decision. Bucket and I are both 23 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: very fired up about this. The Supreme Court essentially punted 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: on getting involved in what was clear in my opinion, 25 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: first Amendment violations by the Biden administration relating to COVID 26 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: censorship through social media outlets. And I understand some of 27 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: you out there, this is not necessarily your wheelhouse. You're 28 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: not active on social media. So let me just sum 29 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: up the general rule and explain why I think the 30 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: Court got it wrong. The general rule is the government 31 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: cannot itself deputize others to do things that it itself 32 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: could not do. That is, the government cannot restrict your speech, 33 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: but it cannot also use others to restrict your speech. 34 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: It can't basically deputize others. And most of what the 35 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: Supreme Court decides, Supreme Court justices buck are far more 36 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: knowledgeable about the intricacies of the law and their impact than, 37 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: for instance, I would be. This is actually my wheelhouse. 38 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: I got the law degree and I've run a media 39 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: company for over a decade. They got this one wrong. 40 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: I'm disappointed in Amy Cony Barrett. I'm disappointed in John Roberts. 41 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: Of course, I'm disappointed in the three liberals of the Court. 42 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: They have essentially told the government, Hey, everything that the 43 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: Biden administration did is okay during COVID by declining to 44 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: really examine this issue, citing a failure of standing of 45 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: the plaintiffs, and it's basically punting and saying we're just 46 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: going to allow what happened to be allowed to happen. 47 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: So I know you're fired up about this as well, 48 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: because you and I have been really disappointed with government 49 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: response to COVID, and this is just another example of it. 50 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: This is one of the worst Supreme Court decisions of 51 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: the last decade. In my mind. This is, first of all, 52 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: it went against the Fifth Circuit. So, just to be clear, 53 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: not only did three Supreme Court justices see without doubt 54 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: or I read You know, I don't always have time 55 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: to read these full decisions. I read it was like 56 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: eighty eight pages or something, or sixty six or eighty eight, 57 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: I forget. I read it this morning though in its entirety, 58 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: because I was so angry at the outcome. I really 59 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: needed to know exactly how this all went down. It 60 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: makes essentially the First Amendment for the purposes of government 61 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: censorship via third parties. The First Amendment is dead. The 62 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: government now, if it decides to has a free hand 63 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: to use whatever pressure it wants. Remember this was pressure. 64 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: This wasn't just hey, you know, we don't like this 65 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: thing that's popping up on Facebook, or we don't like 66 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: the way they're talking about the vaccine online. This was 67 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: we're going to take action against you unless you take 68 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: action here. So this was threats. It wasn't even just collusion. 69 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: It was threats from the government. But because so many 70 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: government officials did it and it was such a widespread 71 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: and systematic pressure campaign, they said, effectively, no individual has 72 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: standing because we can't prove who the person within the 73 00:04:52,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: government is who is responsible for censoring anyone individual. It's 74 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: a stunningly bad decision. Obviously Gorsic, Alito and Thomas saw 75 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 3: through this. Uh, Kavanaugh, Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett are 76 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: just not are not up for the challenge. I think 77 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: that there are also people who all in their private 78 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: lives supported masking. I would guess, and you know they're 79 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: they're they're institutionalists, their corporatis, they they they believe in 80 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: the institutions that gave them their fancy degrees, and they 81 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: think that the reputation of the Supreme Court, for example, 82 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: in the case of Roberts specifically, is more important than 83 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: whether or not we have a free people in this country, 84 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: whether or not we actually have If you don't have 85 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: free speech, you don't have freedom. So this is a 86 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: really big problem. Uh And and I think unfortunately the 87 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: Biden administration has been not only does it evate accountability 88 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: with this, it is richly rewarded for its grotesque violations 89 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: of the First Amendment. And remember they suppressed things that 90 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: were true. 91 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the part of this that you know, those 92 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: go all suppressing the white National listen, all suppressing racism 93 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: and terrible things. They suppressed any questioning of the vaccine 94 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 4: doing injury to people. 95 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: And as we know, the vaccines did have side effects. 96 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: The vaccines did injure people. That is a fact. Now 97 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: we can argue about to what percentages or what numbers, 98 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 3: but there's no doubt that there. You weren't allowed to 99 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: say that there are any vaccine injuries. It was the 100 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: most horrific propaganda campaign play. And to say if these 101 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: individuals don't have standing, Well, then who would have standing 102 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: in a future case like this? The next White House 103 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: that says you're not a lot of question the results 104 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 3: of a twenty twenty four election, any social media platform, 105 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: including Elon Musk's X. If you don't suppress that stuff, 106 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: we're sending regulators after you. Who has standing to sue? 107 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: This is also, I think a big failure historically. And 108 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: you say, okay, what do you mean by that? We're 109 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: through COVID now, But it just continues the pretend COVID 110 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: never happened world that we are living in. This imaginary Oh, 111 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: doctor Fauci is a hero of science. Oh well, maybe 112 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: it did come out of a Chinese lab COVID, and 113 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: maybe it was partly funded the research by American taxpayer dollars. 114 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: But what does it really matter? Now? 115 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: Look at how this story ended. We saved millions of lives. 116 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: Everything's hunky dory. There are no consequences, And I'm sorry. 117 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: I know that many of you out there feel as 118 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: we do that this was the biggest In my opinion, 119 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: COVID is the biggest failure of the American government in 120 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: my life. Some of you are older and you live 121 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: through Vietnam, and I think you can have an argument 122 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: about the way we handled Vietnam, whether it was better 123 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: or worse. 124 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: The War on Terror, I think was. 125 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: A total disaster in many ways in terms of the 126 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: money we spent and the. 127 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: Wars we fought. 128 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: But I think COVID response is the biggest public policy 129 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: failure of my life. And there is zero consequences, and 130 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: this just continues that. And the thing that's really frustrating 131 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: is maybe there won't be another COVID like situation in 132 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: any of the lives of any of us listening right now. 133 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: That's why this opinion is so important, because they had 134 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: an opportunity to send a clarion call that would stand 135 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: for one hundred or two hundred years, making it readily 136 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: apparent that the United States government cannot restrict, even in 137 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 2: a time of danger, constitutional protections related to the First Amendment. 138 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: That's when I would argue the Constitution matters the most 139 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: when we're in times of peace and tranquility. We don't 140 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: worry about government overreach. In the same time, they fail 141 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: here this is and just make it clear what it is. 142 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: It's a failure, and it was an opportunity to really 143 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: write a strong opinion reinforcing liberty value in the First 144 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: Amendments protections. 145 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: It also strengthens the argument that we live in a 146 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: post constitutional order now that the government can make a 147 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: case as it just decides, yeah, you have that fundamental right. 148 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 3: You have that constitutionally protected right, except we say this 149 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: is really important right now, so you don't actually have 150 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: that right. They did this with freedom of religion and 151 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: the right to worship during COVID. They did this with 152 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 3: freedom of speech during COVID. The courts now we look 153 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: back on this in retrospect, on what basis was the government? 154 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: Was the federal government or even state governments in a 155 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: position to shut down churches exactly while other things were open. Reminder, 156 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: you could go to the weed store, but you couldn't 157 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: go to church. On what basis were they doing that 158 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: because they said so? There was a lot of because 159 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: I say so during COVID. If when things get tough, 160 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: because I say so is enough. You live in a tyranny. 161 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: You do not live in a free republic of citizens. 162 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: So I'm with you. 163 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: I think this. 164 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: I think it's an absolutely atrocious decision. It will come 165 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: back to haunt us and just you see they're just 166 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: the weasily behavior of all these Biden administration officials. Oh 167 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: you need to do this, and you need to do that, 168 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 3: and all this back and forth with Facebook. But this 169 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: is in some ways the worst kind of government censorship 170 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: because it was being done behind closed doors. It's when 171 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: they got bureaucrat lunatic losers trying to exercise their power 172 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: against the free distribution of ideas. You know, if the 173 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: White House says, all right, New York Times, you publish that, 174 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: and we're going to send the DOJ you can send 175 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: you to prison. 176 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: That's wrong. 177 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: But at least you know what's going on and you 178 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: can fight against it. What was going on during COVID 179 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: was you had the White House saying go out and 180 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: they and they did go after people individually. That's the 181 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe that will be something that gets more attention. 182 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: But they did use specific names, they gave specific tweets. Now, 183 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: the people involved in this, there were two states and 184 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: three individuals. Maybe they weren't the best people to be 185 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: bringing this case under the circumstances, although I think Badicharia 186 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: was involved. H Bullendorf. I mean, you know, I don't 187 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: mean the best people is in not no, yeah, y, 188 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: I esteemed enough. But based on the specific the specificity 189 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: of their targeting, I mean, I way, we should probably 190 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: talk to Alex Berenson about what he thinks about this. 191 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 3: He was targeted. But you know, anyone who says, oh, 192 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: I don't care about COVID by the way, that that 193 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: aggravates me, I was gonna say, because they did all 194 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: this terrible stuff, they've gotten away with it, and they've 195 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 3: laid the groundwork to do it again. 196 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: Do any of you. 197 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: Think that these social media companies will hesitate to engage 198 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: in the disinformation war if Trump wins this election and 199 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: the Democrats come up with some bull crap reason why 200 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: he isn't actually the president. Of course they will, and 201 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: now they know they can get away with it legally. 202 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: I'll give you an example of something that's happening still 203 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: right now. If you go try to follow OutKick over 204 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks on Instagram for our stories. 205 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: They say this outlet is not to be trusted because 206 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: they've shared videos that are not accurate representations of what 207 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: really exists, and it's Biden walking aimlessly wandering. They're saying, oh, 208 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: this outlet can't be trusted because it's shared these videos. 209 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: Do you think that pressure might have come from the 210 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: White House? Do you think maybe the White House is 211 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: leaning on Instagram and Facebook to try to restrict video 212 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: of Biden looking like he's lost his marbles. 213 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: And this effectively, you know, this effectively creates a dynamic 214 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: where the Biden White House can almost be the mafia 215 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: don who brings you know, this is the classic mafia thing, 216 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: brings into guys like, hey, you know, Tony's causing a 217 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: problem for us to be you know, maybe somebody's gonna 218 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: fix that problem. 219 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: And then all of a. 220 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: Sudden, some guy is you know, is is killed, that 221 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: is buried out in the woods somewhere, and it's I 222 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: never gave the order to you know, I mean, the ways. 223 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: Particlarly what they're doing is there. It'd be a shame 224 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: if the government really had to get involved in your business. 225 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: Here's some things we'd like for you to address. How 226 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: many people are not going to respond to that? 227 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it is it is a horrifyingly bad decision 228 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: that undermines free speech at its core in an area 229 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: where digital media is the public square. 230 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: That's the part that I think. 231 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: Some of the some of the oh so brilliant jurors here, 232 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: and I'm particularly look so do my kag it. They're 233 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,239 Speaker 3: just like, we need, we need to defend the Triple Maskers. 234 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you know there they've got an anxiety issue 235 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: and they're Democrats, their leftist, they're authoritarians. The ones I'm 236 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: mad at Kavanaugh, Robert Amy Coney Barrett. How could you 237 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: have clowns be such a joke. I mean, maybe Amy 238 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: Cony Barrett's is really not up to this. I don't know, 239 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe she's not, you know, But the 240 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: other two, it's just being they're just weak. They didn't 241 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: they didn't want to, you know, they didn't want to 242 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: upset the system. 243 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: And they had an opportunity to write one of the 244 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: most far reaching First Amendment protective cases in Supreme Court history, 245 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: and they failed. And here's the thing, Buck, and this 246 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 2: is what we come back to. There are no lessons. 247 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: We have done nothing to prevent what happened during COVID 248 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: from happening again, which is the biggest fallacy to me. 249 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: This could turn into with this decision, could be something 250 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: that you know, people look at like the Treaty of 251 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: Versailles after World War One and then World War two. 252 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's going to lead to World War three, 253 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: but this decision could be something that you look back 254 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: on and recognize as a critical and a highly unfortunate 255 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: part of a national constitutional electoral crisis, because they'll do 256 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: this again. 257 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: Now. This demostraps no lessons. 258 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: There's no consequences if you if you don't have to 259 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: pay for your wrongness, you'll do it again. 260 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: You know, if Democrats say that Trump cheated and they 261 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: start some whole campaign about how Trump cheated, and all 262 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: information on all you know and I don't mean just Facebook, Google, YouTube, 263 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: go down the list and Amazon web services, you know 264 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: they can all be they can all be told by 265 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: the Biden White House. Hey, only one narrative is allowed 266 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: right now. Don't make us send our regulators after you. 267 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: And they know thanks to the cowards and idiots that 268 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: are center right on the Supreme Court, they know that 269 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: they will get away with it. They know the Biden 270 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: White House can do this. It is a huge, a 271 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: huge blow to freedom in this country. And I honestly 272 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: it wasn't even my radar before Clay that much because 273 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: I just I just assumed I assume this would be 274 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: six ' three in the other direction. 275 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just totally bungled it. The only thing I 276 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: can say is maybe this is horse trading. I mean, 277 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: maybe this is horse trading for presidential immunity voting. Maybe 278 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: there's I don't know, but it's such a big swing. 279 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: And I do appreciate your optivism because this makes I 280 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: wanted to throw my laptop, you know, through the wall 281 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: when I heard this decision this morning. Anyway, we'll come 282 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: back to more on the upcoming debate obviously here in 283 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: just a second. 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Well, we'll get into the debate here in a bit, 343 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: but we talked about this yesterday and while we were 344 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: angry over the Supreme Court decision, I think rightly there 345 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: is a positive that came out last night. Jamal Bowman 346 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: got absolutely crushed in New York sixteen by George Latimer. 347 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: He's gonna lose by around seventeen to twenty points. That 348 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: appears about ninety percent of the vote is in. We 349 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: told you that that was likely to happen, but I 350 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: do think it's pretty significant. It also makes the crazy 351 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: AOC rally that we played the audio of for all 352 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: of you yesterday seem even more ridiculous and points out 353 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: what we said, which is this was not really a 354 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: rally that was going. 355 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: To play well in Westchester. 356 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: And there's lots of talk about the money that was 357 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: spent by a pro Israel group. But what isn't talked 358 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: about that much is I think Jamal Bowman would have 359 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 2: lost even if they hadn't poured a ton of money 360 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: into this race. I bet you agree. How much significance 361 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: should we take the other I would say somewhat major 362 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: news in terms of Congress people that you would know 363 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: is that Lauren Bobert won in a new congressional district, 364 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: Colorado four. She is going to be comfortably re elected. 365 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: For those of you who have followed her travails, the beetlejuice, 366 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 2: date night, security cam footage, the divorce, all of the 367 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: personal stories that have gotten a lot of attention related 368 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: to her, She's going to be back in Congress. Jamal 369 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: Bowman is out and a somewhat more moderate Democrat has won. 370 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 2: This would seem to me Buck, and I'm curious what 371 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 2: your takeaway would be that Twitter again is not a 372 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: great representation necessarily of voters. Bowman has three hundred and 373 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 2: sixty thousand Twitter followers, George Latimer, who beat him, has 374 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: six thousand Twitter followers, and yet Jamal Bowman out George 375 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: Latimer in this seems to suggest that this hey pro Palestine, 376 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: anti Israel, embrace cease fire gaza. Now that Bowman tried 377 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: to make central to his campaign, at least based on 378 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: the district that he represented, was not a very good 379 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: political strategy. And to lose by almost twenty points as 380 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: the incumbent, it's. 381 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: Tough to do. 382 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: Usually you don't lose a primary by twenty points as 383 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: an incumbent congressperson inside of your own political party. I mean, 384 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: this is a pretty seismic result. 385 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: I think. 386 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: I do think that some of the more activist congressman 387 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 3: congresswomen of the left are going to find that what 388 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: plays well, especially as this is still an ongoing issue 389 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: of Israel and Hamasm or Jamas still has hostages, there's 390 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: still ongoing fighting that what makes you get a lot 391 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: of retweets and clicks and whatever online doesn't necessarily translate 392 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: into support in your district. This is interesting in the 393 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 3: context of New York with Jamal Bowman losing his seat, 394 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: but more to the point, if this is a dynamic 395 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: that plays out in Pennsylvania, which has a substantial Jewish 396 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: population of voters who I think are are well aware 397 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: of what the Democrat Party's betrayal has been on Israel. 398 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: Will they change their votes or not? I don't know. 399 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: We'll have to see, But certainly in Michigan too, there's 400 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: the chance that you may have more people who recognize 401 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: there's been pandering on this. So you know, for one 402 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: New York congressional seat that goes from one Democrat to another, 403 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 3: this isn't this alone is an interesting story. The way 404 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 3: that it has political implications that matter to all of 405 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 3: you is does this play out? Does this act as 406 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: an indicator for what we will see in the presidential 407 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: election in some of the key. 408 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: Key swing states. 409 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 3: And I think that's that's something that's got to have 410 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 3: the Democrats concerned, because what are they going to say, 411 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: just kidding, we actually do support Israel. Well, that's gonna 412 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: you know, all the anti Jewish protesters marching around and 413 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 3: all these people that are wearing cafeas all the time. 414 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: They're not going to like that very much. They can't 415 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: actually play both sides on this issue. Usually Democrats can manage. 416 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: They'll say, just shut up. Once we're in power, we'll 417 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: give you what you want. We'll give the other side 418 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 3: what they want. This coalition is just about power, not 419 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: about any actual principle. But on this issue it's tougher, 420 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? It's tough to straddle 421 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: this Israel Palestine thing for the Democrats than it is 422 00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 3: on a lot of other stuff. 423 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: I also think it's funny. Remember when cultural appropriation was 424 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: a huge thing. Wouldn't dressing up like you're a Palestinian 425 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: be the very definition of cultural appropriation when you're wearing 426 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: what do you call those things? I don't even know 427 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: how to pronounce them, kafias or whatever they are, when 428 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: you're walking around in like Palestinian head dress as if 429 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: you're Palestinian. You can't dress up like a cowboy in 430 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: an Indian anymore, but you're allowed to pretend that you're Palestinian. 431 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: I just the rules on this, like white girls can't 432 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: get their hair braided when they go to Jamaica because 433 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: it's cultural appropriation. But you know, random people walking around 434 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: on college campuses at Columbia can all just decide that 435 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 2: they're gonna wear, you know, Muslim head dress and it's like, 436 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: oh yeah, look, power of the people. Isn't it very 437 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: funny where the cultural appropriation line has drawn? And by 438 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: the way, I'm in favor of cultural appropriation anything that 439 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: is great. It's basically the story of human civilization, which 440 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: a culture is actually appropriation. Yes, all culture is built 441 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: the top and taken from other culture. If you are 442 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: walking around wearing Madras shorts or seersucker this summer, a 443 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 2: lot of you in the South, for example, that comes 444 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: from India. Okay, we think of it as like you know, 445 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: prep e fraternity brothers or you know whatever. We think 446 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: of it as older guys wearing the lightweight suits in 447 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: the summer comes from India. 448 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: Like we have stuff from all over the world. 449 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 3: Coffee was originally from Arab traders who got it from 450 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: the interior of Sub Saharan Africa, basically modern day Kenya 451 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: and Ethiopia. So you know, guess what it all comes 452 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: to us from somewhere. Okay, So if I want to 453 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: if I want to eat, and even if I want 454 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: to make tacos breakfast tacos for example, that is my 455 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: right as a human being. 456 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's actually the whole purpose of humanity and civilization. 457 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 2: We all take the best things that humans create and 458 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 2: make them more popular. And so I just think this 459 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: is funny in the context of really what it represents 460 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: is how broken all and hypocritical all the ideas are. 461 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 2: But I do think that Jamal bow And should be 462 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: setting off alarm bells inside of the Democrat Party because 463 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: I've said and I really do think this election might 464 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: well come down to just who wins Michigan and the 465 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: Biden campaign. I think over the next four months, what 466 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: are we four months in a week remaining in the 467 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: time before the official election date, and a bunch of 468 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: you are going to be voting in two months, and 469 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: we want you to get out early and go ahead 470 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: and get your vote in and encourage other people to 471 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: get their votes out. But many states start allowing early 472 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: voting in September now, so certainly many of you are 473 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: just a couple of months away from actually casting your ballots. 474 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: But you can't balance this. You got to pick a side. 475 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: And if Trump is good tomorrow, I would advise him 476 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: to just I'm curious if you would agree come out 477 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: and say I stand with Israel one hundred percent. If 478 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: you're Jewish and you believe that Israel should have the 479 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: right to defend itself, unlike him who is trying to 480 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: straddle the line and say, well, they can kind of 481 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 2: defend themselves but they kind of can't. Let's build this 482 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: collapsing bridge. Nobody's talking about the Gaza food bridge that 483 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: we tried to spend. We spend three hundred million dollars 484 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: on and it immediately got flooded and collapsed. Biden's trying 485 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: to finagle two different components of his identity politics coalition. 486 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: I think Trump should just come out and say I 487 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: think Israel has the right to defend itself. 488 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: Might win in Michigan by just being on the right 489 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: side morally. 490 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: I also can can tell, can tell anybody who's curious, 491 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: people that I know who have worked on the on 492 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 3: the Arab Israeli issue within the government, and I know 493 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 3: folks who have been doing it for thirty years. Okay, 494 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: it's a There are some areas of international relations, you know, 495 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 3: global affairs, whatever you want to call it, where you 496 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 3: tend to have people that really hyper focus. And this 497 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 3: was true when I was in the CIA, It's true 498 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 3: in the State Department, It's true all across the government. 499 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: Israel Palestine or you know, Arab Israeli conflict is what 500 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: it used to be called. More more generally, that's one 501 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 3: where you have people that this is what they devote 502 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: their lives to and all of them will eventually. If 503 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: they're honest, they'll tell you this comes from this idea 504 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: that we're going to solve this. We're absolutely not going 505 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: to solve this. Meaning America, we are not in a 506 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: position to, nor are we capable of solving this. So 507 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: all this stuff about how we have to do this 508 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: or we have to do that. We support Israel because 509 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: it is an allied state in a region of a 510 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 3: lot of hostility. But this notion that we could do 511 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: something and all of a sudden the Palestinian suffering would 512 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 3: stop or whatever, or the fighting would stop, it's just 513 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: not true, right, And so a lot of the stuff 514 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: you see with these protesters, they're divorced from the realities 515 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: of the region because, if we've talked about so many times, 516 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: they know nothing about what's going on over there. They 517 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: just think oppressed people and it's trendy to support them, 518 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: and they're brown and the other people who are oppressing 519 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: them are white. So put on the cafe and get 520 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: out there and make a lot of noise about it, 521 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 522 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 6: No, I. 523 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: Hope that this will have real consequences. In four months 524 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: and a week I question whether it will because so 525 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: far we're not getting we have not had. 526 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: A con I'm telling you, unfortunately, I think it won't. 527 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: But I hope that I'm wrong, but it probably is 528 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: not going to change it. 529 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: You and I were talking about this off air, and 530 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: maybe you can think of one out there in your 531 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: universe as you listen to us. Name somebody who's had 532 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: consequences for being wrong on COVID. 533 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: On COVID while we're going to COVID now. 534 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that this ties into me 535 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: on if you're not getting consequence at least Jamal Bowman 536 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: is having consequences for being wrong in his in our opinion, 537 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: in his primary. 538 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: But we have had a lot of consequence free elections. 539 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: So who has actually lost their job because they did 540 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: such a crappy job with COVID? Who is lost there? 541 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: I mean this ties in with the Supreme Court case, 542 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: everything else. I hope there's the consequence election cycle coming up, 543 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: but so far we haven't seen very many of them, 544 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: although again in a positive way, Jamal Bowman pull the 545 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: fire alarm. Indeed, his career appears to be over as 546 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: a politician. 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Hope you guys are 574 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: having a fantastic Wednesday so far. Head to think there 575 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: for a sec. It's been crazy time. We've been breaking 576 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: down the latest Spring Court opinions as well as Jamal 577 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: Bowman going down in New York sixteen. 578 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: Take a couple of your calls here. 579 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: And a lot of you want to weigh in a 580 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: variety of different aspects, David and Alabama. You want to 581 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: weigh in on the Supreme Court decision that just came down. 582 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 6: I really do give us. I'm really disappointed. You know 583 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 6: that Justice Roberts, nothing he does anymore surprises me. But 584 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 6: for Barrett and for Cavanaugh, you know, to go that 585 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 6: way because the precedent this is setting for all those 586 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 6: constitution ating attorneys that are out there to want to 587 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 6: chisel away at what at the first Amendment. I mean, 588 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 6: it's scary. 589 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: You're a hund percent right, and this is what we're 590 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: so fired up about. Yeah, I was just gonna say 591 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: that this is the look, the reality and the challenge. 592 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call, David, the reality and the challenge. 593 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: I think that we are rolling into is and this 594 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: where I was kind of hitting as we went to break. 595 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: We would hope, you would hope, at a bare minimum, 596 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: that we would learn from our response to COVID and 597 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: help to put in place protocols to ensure that something 598 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 2: like this could never happen again. Now, I hope it 599 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: doesn't happen in my life, Buck's life, anybody's life listening 600 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: right now. But the likelihood is at some point, your 601 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: kids or grandkids, if you think historically, are going to 602 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: face some form of pandemic virus. We saw it happen 603 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: in the early nineteen hundreds during World War One. We 604 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 2: saw it happen one hundred years later. Your kids are 605 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: grandkids may face it. Heck, we all may face it 606 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: if we don't learn anything from our response and how 607 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: flawed it was, and we don't put in place constitutional 608 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: protections to try to keep it from happening again. We're 609 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: basically saying, yeah, we handled COVID perfectly. We want the 610 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: same thing to happen sixty years from now, eighty years 611 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: from now one hundred years from now. 612 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 3: Another thing that I thought was just completely unacceptable in 613 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 3: the majority opinion. I mean the fact that they weren't 614 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: if they're going to say that there's no standing, I 615 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: think that's wrong. But put that aside, they should at 616 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: least say what the Biden administration did here in principle 617 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: was you know, there's plenty of editorialized and that goes 618 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: on in these decisions was obviously grotesque school opposed to 619 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: the spirit of the First Amendment. It is not what 620 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: a government should be doing. They were wrong on the facts. 621 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 3: They just they just basically, you know, gave them a 622 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: get out of jail free card on the whole thing. 623 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: On the whole thing. 624 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 2: I testified in front of Congress Jim Jordan's committee, and 625 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: Jim Jordan's gonna join us in the third hour, which 626 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: is the first time I met Jim Jordan face to face, 627 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: which I think was three years ago. This is so 628 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: important and I have not heard hardly anybody address it, 629 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: and it's why I'm, in addition to the COVID connection, 630 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 2: so disappointed in what the Supreme Courts decided here. Big 631 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: tech companies have the power to decide whether your media 632 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:48,479 Speaker 2: outlet dies or survives because they can say, hey, we're 633 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: not going to allow your site to get traffic, and 634 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 2: they can basically turn your site into a money losing proposition. 635 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 2: They did this to me, They did this to OutKick. 636 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: I interviewed Trump for the first time, and we had 637 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 2: a ton of super positive stories about Trump. Our traffic 638 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: vanished from Facebook, from Instagram, from the big social media companies. 639 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: They basically just decided, we're not going to allow this 640 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: to be distributed. We don't want people to see it. 641 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: They are the marketplace, and when you give them the 642 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: ability to make decisions based on content what their audience sees, 643 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: they will do it. And they won't do it fairly. 644 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: They're not putting in place content neutral policies. And if 645 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: you believe in the marketplace of ideas, as I do, 646 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: then you should be troubled by the power that we 647 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 2: are giving to these companies to do exactly what they did. 648 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a horrible decision, but I do have 649 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 3: some good news, good news for us, Clay, good news 650 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 3: for all of you, good news for America. And it comes, 651 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 3: of course, as I'm drinking my Crocket coffee Crocketcoffee Dot 652 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: com go subscribe please, the best coffee you'll get anywhere. 653 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: Ten percent of the profit's going to tunnel the towers. 654 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,959 Speaker 3: But that's amazing Crocket Coffee dot com. I did want 655 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 3: to say the number. I really mean this, there is 656 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 3: really good news. Biden has some of the worst data 657 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 3: that I think he could possibly have, just coming out 658 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: of the Washington Post going into this debate, I don't 659 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: have you even seen this one yet on the issue 660 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 3: in swing states of who is the most trusted on democracy, 661 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 3: which is the central premise of Biden's whole reelection campaign. 662 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: The Washington Post is ringing the alarm I need to 663 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 3: ate it campaign. I haven't seen it yet. We're gonna 664 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: dive into this is gonna be good, my friends. You 665 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 3: got a moment a break to, you know, get up, stretch, 666 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 3: drink some Kracket coffee or subscribe to some Cracket coffee when. 667 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: We come back. 668 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 3: Probably the worst data that Biden could have, short of 669 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 3: his disastrous economy in the border, and it has to 670 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: do with democracy.