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Speaker 1: Before listening, ask a doctor if your heart is healthy

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Speaker 1: enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and

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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. No, sir, we do not have a full

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Speaker 1: line up today, No, we don't. Kurt did not dress

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Speaker 1: for today's show. Yeah, he's inactive. He's inactive. For Kurt.

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Speaker 1: That cough that he tried to spread all. Let me

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Speaker 1: get this microphone away from me. Kurt's microphone, that coff

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Speaker 1: he had yesterday and that I guess he had a cough.

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Speaker 1: He just had that froggy voice got the best of him.

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Speaker 1: Not able to make it today, So you're stuck with

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Speaker 1: me and Nate, and I'm sure Douglas will step up

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Speaker 1: and take more than his share of the show today,

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Speaker 1: like it or not like it? And how you doing today, Nate?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great and I'm been doing fabulous man by

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Speaker 1: Kurt not being here me and you have to be

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Speaker 1: kind of statistical type guys today and bring a little

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Speaker 1: bit more to the show than just you. Tommy Johns

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Speaker 1: bro I didn't even I didn't even bring a computer

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Speaker 1: to do any stats. I hear you, but you gotta

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Speaker 1: get a while The papers that he printed out there,

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Speaker 1: the the outlook for the Cowboys Redskins game. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: outlooking it. It got the history of wild up printing

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Speaker 1: out a little bit too much. I just hit print

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Speaker 1: It's like one hundred and twelve pages. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna get a little notice on you notice

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Speaker 1: on your email here in a minute. Please don't use

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Speaker 1: more than five sheets of paper at the time. Killing, killing,

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Speaker 1: trees killing. Yes, you got a little baby baby pine

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Speaker 1: tree right there, Aby pine Tree. Well, we have a

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Speaker 1: I confirmed yesterday afternoon. We have a special guest on

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Speaker 1: the show tomorrow. Okay, okay, he's actually put together a

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Speaker 1: couple of good games. One of our training camp guests,

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Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford. Yeah, man, I holiday at him yesterday morning,

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Speaker 1: did you. Yeah, at lunch, I'm like, man, hey, Rob,

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Speaker 1: I've been bragging on you. I've been getting on you.

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Speaker 1: Now you've been playing. Well, I'm back on you on

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Speaker 1: your good side. Yeah, man, he's gonna he's gonna come

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Speaker 1: on with us tomorrow. So hopefully we can kick the

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Speaker 1: show off with our favorite Canadian, sorry LP, our favorite

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Speaker 1: Canadian on the team, Tyrone Crawford. So run into Uh

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Speaker 1: got a little got a little stat here, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: And I'll give you a little background to this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: give us the stat, little background, Jeff Heath. This is

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Speaker 1: from the game on Sunday. This is in our in

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Speaker 1: our pr notes. Jeff Heath added the role of kicker

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Speaker 1: and kickoff specialist to his resume, handling five kickoffs and

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Speaker 1: hitting two of three point after attempts for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: at San Francisco. The last time the Cowboys had a

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Speaker 1: non kicker punter handled kickoff duties was against Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, when safety Pat Watkins had

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Speaker 1: one kickoff for sixty one yards. The last time the

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Speaker 1: goal or a point after attempt was in nineteen sixty one.

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Speaker 1: Tight end Dick Bill Billski went ten of ten on

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Speaker 1: tries for Dallas. A little trivia there, Yeah, you went

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Speaker 1: back on an I did, and I actually ran into so,

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Speaker 1: to be a trainer. She got her training certificate and

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Speaker 1: as a trainer over at Cowboys Fit, and we just

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Speaker 1: So his coaches were last second sending out film to

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Speaker 1: NFL route. So little trivia you don't get on these

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Speaker 1: other shows. How Nate boy you you you really brought

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Speaker 1: some thunders, then you brought some unknown way to go.

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Speaker 1: You did some research, you with some dining, some digging

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Speaker 1: the Dallas game. They got some players man Preston Smith,

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Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty five yards a game. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: but you can't score them. You can score on them

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Speaker 1: You know what does that mean? The safety may you know,

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Speaker 1: So uh, it's a lot of things that the defense

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Speaker 1: can do. Man most importantly, most defensive coordinators, but all

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Speaker 1: the ones, I know, the smart ones, the good ones.

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Speaker 1: to create turnovers. So on the road, you know, you

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Speaker 1: You don't want to get behind the more three points,

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Speaker 1: told y'all this before. And boy, you know, Michael Irvin

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Speaker 1: had told me how Jimmy was, you know, because I

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Speaker 1: was like, my man, you know, what's up with this boy? Man,

427
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Speaker 1: what's up with Jimmy? You know? He said, Nate, if

428
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Speaker 1: you can play, you ain't got nothing word about it.

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Speaker 1: You can't play, You're gonna be out of here, all right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, I ain't word. I can beat all

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Speaker 1: these I mean, can't beat the rest of the league,

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Speaker 1: but I can beat these guys here and this team.

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Speaker 1: You know. So we're on a flight, man, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what game we had post and uh, we always

435
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Speaker 1: would be looking through the curtains, you know, because they

436
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Speaker 1: had the curtains club, So we always be looking through

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Speaker 1: the curtain. He just be in the back of the plane,

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Speaker 1: you know. So we'll be looking through the curtains. Were

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Speaker 1: back the cutting up and we're not lost and see

440
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Speaker 1: if Jimmy has Jimmy coming, everybody get quiet, straightened up. Well,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy counter somehow got halfway down the past the media,

442
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Speaker 1: and I saw him, and I think Eric so everybody

443
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: trying to tap everybody, and Frank Cornie had his back.

444
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Speaker 1: He was on his knees and he had his back.

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Speaker 1: Turn he was just oh, Frank was clowning on somebody.

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Speaker 1: He was talking about somebody bad. And uh, he realized,

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Speaker 1: I don't nobody to laughing. Everybody went from you know,

448
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Speaker 1: cracking up, falling all over themselves to just straight face.

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Speaker 1: And so he finally turn around and uh, jimmyssay, turn

450
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Speaker 1: around and sit you down like that. And Frank looked

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Speaker 1: at him. He said, you heard me, and Frank looked

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Speaker 1: at him, and so Jimmy went on to the back.

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Speaker 1: Frank said, ain't man, don't talk to me like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna grown man. I'm gonna go handle him. I say, Frank, Frank,

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Speaker 1: lead that man along. I say, just hey, we all

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Speaker 1: understand we could have you know what I'm sound saying,

457
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Speaker 1: we all unders saying he could have gotten me too.

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Speaker 1: I say, hey, just lead that man hunter. So jim

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Speaker 1: was back there just you know, looking around, you know,

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Speaker 1: talking to the stewards. I say, Frank, don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Frank got up. Frank, I'm a man, you know, man

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to me this way. I'm gonna let him

463
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Speaker 1: know at least he gotta let him know those He

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Speaker 1: went back there and told Jimmy, man, I don't appreciate

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Speaker 1: what he's Jimmy stopped. You got two choices here. You

466
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Speaker 1: can go back and sit down, or you can force

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Speaker 1: me to cut you. Frank like he's at two choices,

468
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Speaker 1: came backside. Oh, I mean, Frank is no longer when

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Speaker 1: as he's passed. But I looked at I said, Frank,

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Speaker 1: what it man? You threw? I told you because if

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Speaker 1: you if you hadn't let it pass. The next day

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Speaker 1: he could have went in Jimmy's office and say, hey, coach,

473
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Speaker 1: you know, but Jimmy told us, and Frank wasn't there

474
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Speaker 1: when we first got to Frank came the second year.

475
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Speaker 1: Jimmy told us. He said, when he comes to this team,

476
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Speaker 1: certain things I'm expect and and and losing ain't one

477
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Speaker 1: of them. He said, So if you don't, if it

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Speaker 1: don't hurt you to your core, and it don't burn

479
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Speaker 1: every bone in your body when you lose and you

480
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Speaker 1: can't sleep at night. You maybe not need you know,

481
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Speaker 1: you may not need to be on this team, because

482
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Speaker 1: those are the guys I'm looking for. And he said,

483
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Speaker 1: if you want to push me in a corner like

484
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Speaker 1: you're gonna handle me or something, you won't be here

485
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Speaker 1: very long. Because as soon as I find somebody half

486
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Speaker 1: as good as you, not as good as you, but

487
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Speaker 1: half as good as you, you gone. We all sit

488
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Speaker 1: back there and I'm kind of like, I'm kind of

489
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: like that clown, you know, always clowning, and uh, but

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Speaker 1: he kind of hit me. I said to myself, Wow,

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Speaker 1: you know, he want to win. You know, he wanted

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Speaker 1: to win, and he didn't care what you looked like,

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Speaker 1: what the media said, what nobody else thought. If he

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Speaker 1: saw that you was willing to work and sacrifice and

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Speaker 1: do and more important, if you had the ability and

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Speaker 1: you do it, he was gonna he was gonna ride

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Speaker 1: with you. He was gonna ride with you. So because

498
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Speaker 1: a lot of people wanted Mark to any me, Kevin

499
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Speaker 1: Gogan gone. They said it was nowhere in the world

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Speaker 1: we could win anything with this offensive line. They wanted

501
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Speaker 1: us gone. Jimmy. Jimmy like, Nah, the dudes can play.

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Speaker 1: Let me go find our office a coordinator that can

503
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Speaker 1: put these guys in a position to win, and we'll

504
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Speaker 1: see from now. We ain't gonna just cut them off

505
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Speaker 1: of what the media think and what happened three Super

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Speaker 1: Bowls later. Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: forget stuff like that because you know, I get in

508
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Speaker 1: about is analytics, stats, basketball, baseball. That's that's what everybody

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Speaker 1: care about. You give me a guy that want to

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Speaker 1: win with the ability of a troit, I'll take him

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Speaker 1: over Westbrook any day. Westbrook has proven to me every week,

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Speaker 1: year in a year out, weekend and week out that

515
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Speaker 1: he's not about winning, not in a team way. He's

516
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Speaker 1: about winning if it all about him. Guys like that

517
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Speaker 1: can't win. Kamala Anthony, they can't win. They're on the

518
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Speaker 1: same team. Let's see what they break down and become

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Speaker 1: team players. You know, people you hating, Nah, I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that's why Kevin Durant is where he had

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Speaker 1: we need to take a break. You know what. We

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Speaker 1: How are you doing good? Good? Good? My question is, guys,

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's actually good accountability as far as

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Speaker 1: everybody accountable for their positions? And like Nate talks about

603
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607
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Speaker 1: go out there every week. That brotherhood that they all

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Speaker 1: talk about. Where's that accountability coming from? You guys think

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Speaker 1: it's coming from within? You know. Jeff he has enough

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Speaker 1: pride to you don't. You don't have to go to him.

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Speaker 1: He knows when he takes a bad angle. Uh, he's

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Speaker 1: trying to catch up, Jeff. He Jeff he is a

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Speaker 1: package guy. And uh, you give him twenty five plays,

614
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Speaker 1: maybe thirty plays. He knows his package plays to his strength.

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Speaker 1: That's who he is. He's a great special teams guy,

616
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: does whatever it takes. But he was the next guy

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Speaker 1: up to see could he he could have shocked us

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Speaker 1: and been you know, and been that been a better safety?

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Speaker 1: Whose nos? Who knows? But uh, believe me now, some

620
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Speaker 1: guys and I don't know who these guys. Is because

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Speaker 1: I don't get get that close to the team. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's some guys that will speak up, you know that

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Speaker 1: lets you know what you're doing. Ain't cool. Uh. But

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Speaker 1: like even even even with this situation with Zeke, it's

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Speaker 1: some guys and spoke to Zeke. But uh, you still

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627
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Speaker 1: you and and and I hear you and I understand it,

635
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Totlin and I'm with you. Two days later, Oh that,

636
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: Uh well, I thought we talked about it, yell. But

637
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: uh and see, uh, I don't make excuses for NFL players.

638
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: Only excuse I got for you is they human? And

639
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: if you try to use the money factor, really, what

640
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: money's got to do with it? What you like to do?

641
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 1: Only time money's gonna be a factor if they try

642
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: to take it away from them. As long as the

643
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: money ain'tmen taking away and as long as they playing,

644
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna do what they do. May ask you this

645
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: when it comes to having those conversations and on the team, say,

646
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: if you're you wanted to go to a guy and

647
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: talk to him about his business, whether it's on the

648
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: field off the field, is it something you just you

649
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: make a comment kind of a you know, side eye comment.

650
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: Is it something where you go say, hey, man, let's

651
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: go to dinner, or is it something you just Each

652
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: person is very different, so it's just like the real

653
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: world the way yeah you handle that, you know, like

654
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: something like sometimes okay, man, hey curt ain't the end

655
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: of the day, Hey I need you to do this

656
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: for me and do this for me. I'm gonna try

657
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: to do this, you know. Now some guys I'll be like, okay, man,

658
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: did we get okay? Is it okay? If you do that,

659
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, you got to plead with him. You gotta

660
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: beg with him. And then some guys you just tell

661
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: them I was that guy like I was telling you

662
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: about Frank Cornish, I was that guy. Well, you can

663
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: just about say anything and it wasn't gonna phase me.

664
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna think about it more than you know,

665
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: but it wasn't gonna phaze me what you saw in

666
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: my face. I may laugh at you, but but when

667
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: it when it all breaks down, if you correct, if

668
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: you correct, I'll think about it and I correct it,

669
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: you know, but it's something. It's some guys. I don't

670
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: care what you say or what you do. You ain't

671
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: gonna change them. You know, you're not gonna make them

672
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: think different, do different. And then that's when a coach

673
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: have to make a decisions. He value enough to keep

674
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: on his team, but what he want to do that's

675
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: totally a libit libit are totally different than what I

676
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: how I want things to be done. That's when you're

677
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: you know, so zeke uh. You know, I don't make

678
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: the excuse that he's young. He's a man. That's why

679
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: I don't make the excuse for money. That's why I

680
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: don't make the excuse for nothing. You do what you

681
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: like to do, and only time you're gonna change is

682
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: your is your basic uh livelihood or your world is

683
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: gonna come crashing down. And that's by the only way

684
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: a person gonna change. Yeah, Now that's that's off the

685
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: field is you don't have to say anything for a

686
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: guy to be accountable on the field, do you or

687
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: do you some guys you do? You know? Uh, you know,

688
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: I had a bad habit of jumping off side, and

689
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: Troy used to be on me. You know, he used

690
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: to be on me, you know together. Yeah, but jumping

691
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: off side, man is inexcusable. Yeah, you know, but I

692
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: get hyped at the player in front of me. You know,

693
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm thinking about what to do and

694
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: you know, so, but did him getting on you? Did

695
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: that help? You know, because I didn't want to know

696
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: them down right? Yeah? You got real? You got when

697
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: you see, This is what I tell people when I

698
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: when I got gut, when I got guys around me

699
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: that talk to you, and you see they really care.

700
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: Everything they do shows you they care, you know, and uh,

701
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: the way they work what they do. And then we

702
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: got some I was kind of like wit and I

703
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: was kind of older guy by the time we got

704
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: some of the young guys. And then you saw Eric

705
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: William the way he cared about the game and the

706
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 1: way he wanted to hurt folks. I had never seen

707
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: that like that, even in college. The way he wanted

708
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: to hurt people. I mean, he wanted to crack your skull.

709
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: You know, if he get him serious, he could take

710
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: you and just beat you on the ground like a club.

711
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: He would. And so when you saw that right there,

712
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: you didn't want to go into film and all of

713
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: a sudden, some dude punking you, you know, and that's

714
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: why not a very good word, or some dude trying

715
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: to you know, dumbing you down. He'll talk about you.

716
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: You let this dude, Oh my god, you know what

717
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: I used to sitting next to Eric Eric. I used

718
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: to be right here as you walk in the door,

719
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: the door over here. I used to be right here

720
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: and eric us right And if you he'll look at

721
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: you like man, man, I should look up to you,

722
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: look at this dude beating you like that. You know,

723
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: for those of you that have never been around football,

724
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: especially I've never been around other sports. But when you

725
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: were in the locker room and you're in those meeting rooms,

726
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: like it is a safe place amongst other guys. But

727
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: it's not safe with your teammates because they it's not

728
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: a normal workplace. They don't if they got an opinion

729
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: or they have something they want to say, they say

730
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: in front of the whole group. I tell my wife

731
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: all the time. You know, she would say this, this

732
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: and this. I said, well say this, she say, no,

733
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: I worked there, so just tell them how you feel.

734
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: She's like, I won't have a job, you know, and

735
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people, and what I found

736
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: out by working here with it that as cowboys, by

737
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: working in other areas, by watching my wife and my

738
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: brothers and my sisters, because they all have these kind

739
00:40:54,360 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: of good jobs. If and I mean this, if seventy

740
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: five percent of the people in the jobs that the

741
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: real world working were hell accountable the way they expect

742
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: athletes to be hell account of all, it'll be firings

743
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: every day. Yes, So that's why you know, people I do.

744
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: He kind of worked up when people say he needed

745
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: to be hell accountable. And the first thing I want

746
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: to ask a person is what type of job do

747
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: you have? And how many people in your job are

748
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: truly being held accountable? And people said, well, this ain't

749
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: the regular work. Y'all make all this money? Well, I know,

750
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: I know plenty of guys that make two, three and

751
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: four million dollars. They walk around this place here, right,

752
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: so you know, but I ain't gonna say that because

753
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: they happened to be the people that's paying man be called.

754
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, speaking of calls, Terry in Florida,

755
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: what's happening to Terry? And what's going on? Man? It

756
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: was good man? Alright, alright, I'm about to go off

757
00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: the wall. Man, I'm gonna go off the wall. When playing,

758
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: when players transition from one position to another, you know,

759
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: is that like a normal thing? And I was thinking,

760
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 1: if it is, what do you guys think about baby

761
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: Rod Smith being a safety? He's got hands, he's fast.

762
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: If he played specialty, I'll hang up. I don't think

763
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: now Rod Smith ain't got to do that because they

764
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: are woozy A and um and um what Woodson? Because

765
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 1: I know where you're going to Xavier would see Rod

766
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: played Linebarker. I was gonna say in high school, be

767
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: a big safety. Yeah, he probably could play safety. But

768
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: see a lot of people I'm saying, can you cover right?

769
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: And can you tackle what? Because if Rod Smith is

770
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: hard to tackle, can he turn around and tackle himself? Right?

771
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: That's why I tell people each each thing requires a

772
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: little bit of learning. Now, when he get beat deep,

773
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: he get beat short. When somebody run him over while

774
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: he's learning how to be this safety. Are you gonna

775
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: be his patience like man, he'd be he'd be a

776
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: good running back man when we moved back to running

777
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: see see. And most people that call in played football.

778
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: But the problem is a lot of people that call

779
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: in was the best on these team, so they played everything,

780
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: and they think it's just easy to switch to this

781
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: position that like Lyo Collins never played on the right

782
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: side of the line. Is a left tackle and he

783
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: got to pros left guard. He had to literally learn

784
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: how to use his right hand as his dominant punching hand.

785
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: He had to literally learn. So his training camp was ugly.

786
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: Doing some of the preseason games wasn't real nice. But

787
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: he's getting better and better. Are you willing to be patient?

788
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: You know while guys going through this, through this process.

789
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: That's why I say, are you will never hear me

790
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: not one of these young players about if they physically

791
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: get beat or something for God doing move on them

792
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: or something and beat them, you know, But now you

793
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: hit me say why you can't line up right? You

794
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: can at least line up right, you know, and then

795
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: go and then fight from that point by the time

796
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: you get to the pros, you know, high school, college,

797
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: they'll try you out at different positions and move you around.

798
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: But I would imagine when you get to the pros,

799
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: you're about nine. This is your spot, this is where

800
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: you're playing. But there are you know, exceptions Keith Smith

801
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: moving from linebacker to running back. And when you do

802
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: want to try a guy a different position, how does

803
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: that work out on the field? Do you just do

804
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: you pull? Or you have an idea because he played lineback,

805
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: he played running back, so you have an idea of

806
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: what's happening because he went against it. But the techniques

807
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: are a little bit different. Uh, some guys are just

808
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: natural athletes. A better athlete you are, the smarter you

809
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: the smarter you are above the neck, it's easier transition.

810
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: But some guys are are what they are. Like I

811
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: was just offensive line by the time I got to

812
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: the NFL, I was just offensive line. When I was

813
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: a guard, I was a tackle. Uh you know, not

814
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: a very good tackle, but an exception of well good guard.

815
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: You know, well, I'm gonna snap no ball. It just

816
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: it was two and a who switched right switch? What

817
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: from the densie? Yeah, Depen's line from college. I did

818
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: the same thing Deepen's line too, but I did it

819
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: earlier in college. I played my senior year at offense.

820
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: So if they want to do it at a pro level,

821
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: how do you they did it? The guy from Seattle,

822
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: he's with somebody else nam named Sweeney or Swint Swinson

823
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: or whatever. He came from the NFL. He came from

824
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: college as a defensive tackle and went to guard. But say,

825
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: all right, say like Heth Smith, he was a fullback.

826
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean he was a linebacker, right, and they said, hey,

827
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: we want to try you out at fullback. Do they

828
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: just throw you into practice at a fullback or do

829
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: they pull you to the side and let you run drills?

830
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 1: And well, you're gonna run drills. You know you're gonna

831
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: get You're gonna get a chance. But like I say,

832
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: football is football, and he probably plays some type of running,

833
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: or he probably had some type of blocking, or he

834
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: plays some type of special teams where he had a block.

835
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: The only difference is you look, I'm looking at you,

836
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: You're looking at me. I'm coming to get you. You

837
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: coming to get me as a shorter distance, and it's

838
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: a little more impactful so now you're either gonna thank

839
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: you a line back and try to run him more

840
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: as a lineback into moving, or you're gonna try to

841
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: thank you a running back and thank you both to

842
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: catch this guy and let him knock you out. You know,

843
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: back in the day, you'd hear stories. I mean, like

844
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: guys would get moved and they'd become you know, superstars

845
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: at their new position. Like Todd Christian said, I didn't

846
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Speaker 1: want to play tight end with the Cowboys. Landry he said,

847
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Speaker 1: He wouldn't do it. He got cut. I don't know

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Speaker 1: They're just good enough athletes that you want to keep

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones. John and Houston. What's

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Speaker 1: happening John? Hey, not much so? How do here, get

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Speaker 1: Where you're walking at now here in Houston? Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: just walking around the golf course here. Ah oh you

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Speaker 1: heart attack or anything. But yeah, the comple things. Yesterday

865
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Speaker 1: you mentioned that if the Cowboys went out, that the

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Speaker 1: Eagles are still gonna be up on them. But you know,

867
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Speaker 1: technically it's not gonna be right because they're gonna play

868
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869
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Speaker 1: thirteen and three and the Eagles will be thirteen and three,

870
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Speaker 1: So the Cowboys will win the division by the top

871
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Speaker 1: top record. Well, I'm so glad you figured out out

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Speaker 1: why you was walking. You know what I'm saying. You

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879
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Speaker 1: from winning. Way to go, sir. Thanks for college. John, Yeah,

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927
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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross or Old Kurts filing down and out not

928
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Speaker 1: here today. That's looks lonely. That looks sad with the

929
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Speaker 1: headset just hanging off his microphone. A cue card over

930
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Speaker 1: the couple of cute car John's card. Fourth thing, Another

931
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: interesting stat here, Nate. The Cowboys offense posted three rushing

932
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: touchdowns and three passing touchdowns against the forty nine ers

933
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: on Sunday. It was the first time a Dallas offense

934
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Speaker 1: posted three plus rushing scores and three plus passing scores

935
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Speaker 1: since they played Seattle in nineteen eighty. Wow, the nighttime

936
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 1: overall that has happened in team history. It's a pretty

937
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: it's a pretty cool stat. Here's another cool one about Zeke.

938
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Speaker 1: Zeke needs one and this is after one season and

939
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: not even a half yet. Zeke needs one one hundred

940
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Speaker 1: yard game to break a tie with Don Perkins for

941
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: sole possession of fifth all time in team history, currently

942
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: at ten one hundred yard games. It's kind of impressive

943
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: after a year and one season in six games, twenty

944
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: two games. Yeah, I mean, yeah, man. He You know,

945
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: like I tell people, when you break a record, our

946
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: records is not it's Cowboys, It's not what the word is.

947
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to do much to break records of

948
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys because we had so many stars over

949
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: the years that he lapsed on top of each other.

950
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: That coach Landrews just kept he was ahead of his time.

951
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: He kept the ball spread around like you'd be hard

952
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: pressed to find Doris that ran more than twenty four

953
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: times a game. He'd be hard press Kevin Hill run

954
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Speaker 1: more than eighteen nineteen times a game. You'd be hard

955
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Speaker 1: pressed to see Drew, Drew Pearson or somebody to catch

956
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Speaker 1: for eight ninety passes in a year. It just didn't happen.

957
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Speaker 1: Because they had Billy Joe Dupree, they had Tony Hill,

958
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: they had just so many golden riches, and all these

959
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: guys were rolling together, one with lead, they're bringing another one.

960
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: You know, what's the guy? Butch Johnson? I mean all

961
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Speaker 1: the And these guys played anywhere from seven to ten

962
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Speaker 1: twelve years, so over a long period of time, they

963
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: just kept you guessing who was gonna be it, you know,

964
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: and um Roger Don Meredith, I mean somebody. When guys

965
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Speaker 1: break ruggers, you'd be like wow, you know. And the

966
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: way they passed today, the way they run, the way

967
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: offense is a multi uh talented with just players all

968
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: over the place. If you can get a guy like

969
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: Zeke and we keep this offensive blind in tack, he

970
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: gonna come get a whole lot of ruggers real quick.

971
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: You think that? Do you think there's more talent these

972
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: days in the NFL? Not quarterback wise? Everywhere else it

973
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: is so quarterbacks You think quarterbacks were Yeah, back in

974
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 1: no I'm talking my way back I'm the eighties, everybody

975
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: had a quarterback that was capable of winning. Now could

976
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: you build a team around to help them? Now it's

977
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: the other way around, right, you know, can you get

978
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback at all? Right? I mean you when you

979
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: go get Jay, cut out the booth and when and when?

980
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: Come on, man, why do you think that is? Why

981
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: do you think it's so different? Well, they didn't mind

982
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: putting guys on the bench and letting them learn for

983
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: a couple of years, and then they would bring them in,

984
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: bring them along like that, and they really got to

985
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: know the offense. And then that take them a year

986
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: to get the speed of the game. And then you know,

987
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: but if they didn't have to want to, you know,

988
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: once it clicked in, they knew the offense. Because you

989
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of changing other quarterbacks, I mean,

990
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: changing the coordinators, changing other head coach. Things were more

991
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: stable at the top. So he gave your quarterback a

992
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: chance to be more stable. What does it do to

993
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: a young Why is it so hard for a young

994
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: quarterback to come in and be successful? Why is it

995
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: better sometimes or seems like most of the time for

996
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: him to sit for a couple of years. And what

997
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: does it do to him systems once he gets in

998
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: too soon? Systems? Man, you know systems. I mean some

999
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: guys are just dropped back quarterbacks. Well, you can't have

1000
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: him rolling out sprint and doing all this. You gotta

1001
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: go get a offensive line, I can stand in front

1002
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: give him a chance. You gotta have a running game

1003
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: that can give him a chance. All the quarterbacks that

1004
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: are being successful now had one thing in coming now,

1005
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: and they had one thing coming back. Then they all

1006
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: had a running game. They all had a running game.

1007
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: And then it gets even better when you have a defense.

1008
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: Now he you know, like Big Ben when he first

1009
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: came to the Steelers, they had a running game and

1010
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: they had a defense. All he had to do was

1011
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: not mess up. He read just a quarter of the

1012
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: field for over half the season, you know, and then

1013
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: he learned half of the field, and he learned the

1014
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: whole field. So yeah, his first Super Bowl he had

1015
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: like the worst statistics of any winning quarterback in Super

1016
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: Bowl history. Yeah, but the rest of the team was

1017
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: so dominant, so he got a chance to grow. Now

1018
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: he's all his offensively, And when you give a quarterback

1019
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: a chance, that's why, you know, I look at the coordinator.

1020
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: You know, when you have a guy man, this quarterback man,

1021
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: we don't know about him. Then then following into the

1022
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: deep end of the game, this is the sixth offensive

1023
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: coordinator in four years. What what what is he supposed

1024
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: to learn? Each guy got. That's why Cutler coach. That's

1025
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Miami Dolphins. He had his

1026
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: best year when he was with the Bars, so he

1027
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: went back and got him. What you think was wrong

1028
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Matt Ryan's offensive coordinator. Yeah, it's his man

1029
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: is sitting somewhere else now, you know. And they when

1030
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: they got some dude Sakesian or somebody he liked. Man,

1031
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: what does happened? Well, just to switch your coordinators the rhythm.

1032
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 1: He's annoying your coach, like McCarthy, he turned he turned

1033
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: it over to his backup guy to call plays, and

1034
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, my man going to a prolonged swamp.

1035
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: Ross going to a prolonged swamp. You know, Hey, it's

1036
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: about clicking, man, you know, like like Kurt done have

1037
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: me and you missed the beat? Now we missed the beak.

1038
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: We worked together in training camp. It's not that curt

1039
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: ain't good right and what he does, but me and

1040
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: you were together in training camp. That's what I say.

1041
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: I said, we were together in training camp. We're gonna

1042
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: never miss a beat. I can't believe we made it

1043
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: out of training camp. And what the thing about it

1044
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: is we had players standing between m R. Yeah we didn't. Hey,

1045
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: we didn't have Sir Douglas. Yeah, he couldn't. He couldn't,

1046
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: Sir Douglas, paraclaw, he couldn't talk on the show. Yeah, Hey,

1047
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: Sir Douglas. He used to be on you. I used

1048
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, man, we get back, Sir Douglas,

1049
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: gonna do this, man, Sir Douglas, he claimed he's back

1050
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: there working. I promise called it breakdown. He's not back

1051
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: there work out like he's working bad. Tell them what

1052
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: you do during the summer, Sarah Douglas during the watch

1053
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: during the summer months when we y gosh, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: my busiest time of year. Enlightness expand on that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well okay, so like Shannon recorded a commercial with me

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Speaker 1: the other day, right, I record and produce almost all

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Speaker 1: of those commercials during training camp that we use for

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Speaker 1: the entire season. So all that production work comes in

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Speaker 1: at that time, and then there's other that's on top

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Speaker 1: of everything else that's happening. So yeah, it's it's a

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Speaker 1: busy time. And Nate, you know how long it took

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Speaker 1: us to cut that commercial Hello, about a minute and

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Speaker 1: a half. But let me ask you, So you have

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Speaker 1: to send a lot of these commercials out to other

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Speaker 1: stations around the country that carries the Dallas cop broadcast. Right.

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Speaker 1: But here's the other thing that the commercial we cut

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Speaker 1: with Shannon. You know, the expectations weren't that that I

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Speaker 1: could for a slap of music bed under equs voice.

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Speaker 1: He just impressed that I can actually read it. No, no,

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Speaker 1: I was. It was a good it's a good spot.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to sell it short but due to YO,

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Speaker 1: due to YO. But it wasn't tease. It wasn't the

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Speaker 1: most uh uh do you have it back there, Douglas,

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Speaker 1: I don't have it. Uh, you know, we'll we'll get

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Speaker 1: that one. Let's do it when Kurt's here so he

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Speaker 1: can fully appreciate it. But uh, it wasn't the most

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Speaker 1: work intensive spot that I've ever produced. Okay, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: uh we're gonna have what we're gonna call you a

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Speaker 1: deal where we we got everybody. It ain't a follies

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Speaker 1: type deal. Oh yeah, well it couldn't out take could

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Speaker 1: be out takes U Allies is a good word. I

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00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: haven't heard that word since Sports Illustrated used to put

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Speaker 1: out those follies tapes. Yeah. Now, look Douglas Douglas Follies

1084
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Speaker 1: talked us into this. Don't don't oversell this like this,

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Speaker 1: better be good, better be funny. Dude, I've got the

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Speaker 1: stuff I've got. Sometimes it's just a question of can

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Speaker 1: we get away with putting it on the air. Oh

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Speaker 1: on this show? Yeah, the other shows maybe not us. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's always it's gonna be good stuff. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll get stuff you used. We can't lose. We'll get

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Speaker 1: together and figure out what days are best and how

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Speaker 1: we roll that out. So that should be fun tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford her favorite Canadian on the team. You're join

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Speaker 1: the show. He's bringing home the bacon baby and putting

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Speaker 1: it in a pan. Finally starting to uh, finally starting

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Speaker 1: to get after the quarterback this year, we'll we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to him little football and uh oh wow, we just wow, man,

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Speaker 1: it's too just knocked to a cut out man old,

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Speaker 1: Uh some hockey a guy just superman for real? Hit

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Speaker 1: or dude not not No. They was trading like thousand

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Speaker 1: punches into two seconds. Yeah, he hit him twice and

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Speaker 1: laid him out. On Sports Nation on ESPN, sting each

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Speaker 1: other in the pads. That was fist to cheek. Yeah man, wow, Nate,

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Speaker 1: thanks for bringing it. We made it through a show. Douglas,

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Speaker 1: thanks for doing what you do. Kn't thanks putting out

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Speaker 1: a signature sauce and then pouring it on his hands. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's a cold Beasley Drew Yeah wow, U KNT. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for doing what you do. Tyrone Crawford tomorrow on the show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Hanging with the Boys. This has

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