1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to twelve 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: by searching app pass car Boom, What Up America, Doug 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show by. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. How you doing, Welcome in Hope. You're having 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: a great day. That's it that it feels like a 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 2: smattering of applause. My goodness that we did. There we go, 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: There we go. 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: I didn't. Band's been filling in for other shows. Jay 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: Stewo's been pouting because the Dodgers are losing, so we 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: haven't had the full crew together. And you know, I 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: don't usually like to do this, just because the one 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: thing we do a great job of, and when I 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: say we, I mean Jason Stewart does, because he's the 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: one who keeps us on topic, on task, is looking forward. 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: You know. It's like, you know, you go too far 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: behind in the past. It's like what are we what 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: are we doing here? Right? But but I do think 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: yesterday and now we're like twenty four hours into this 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: into our reaction to the death of Hulk Hogan, that 24 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: it's still worthy of discussion because we haven't been together. 25 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: That's the big thing. We haven't been together. So I look, 26 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: there have been people that are critical of my comments. 27 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: There are people that are critical of others who have 28 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: gone completely the other way and act like, you know, 29 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: some some incredible icon has passed away, right, And look, 30 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: my thing is, I've never really been a wrestling guy. 31 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: And once I heard the tape that what wholk Hogan, 32 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know his real name whatever, Terry Terry 33 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: with a V or B with Terry Belea, you drop 34 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: n bomb with a hard R. Several times admit to 35 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: be like, I'm just that doesn't exist in my world. 36 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Those aren't people that I will ever associate with or 37 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: think of on an unfriendly terms. Sorry, And I'm sure 38 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: there are people that I know that, or I'm not sure. 39 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: I'm guessing there there are a person or two that 40 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: I know that may say that I just haven't heard it. 41 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: Once I hear it, I'm like, I'm good here. So no, 42 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: I didn't spend time thinking about it. I'm not super bummed, 43 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: but on the other hand, I do understand the spectacle 44 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties that was Hulk Hogan. But 45 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's lots of things we did in the 46 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties that we don't do now, or we're 47 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: not into now, or we realize it's bad for us. 48 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: Jayce Do. I thought you had great perspective when we 49 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: discussed this, right, because my thing has been I think 50 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: that people and this is I know we joked about, hey, 51 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: when Malcolm Jamal Warner died, you know, whoever dies next, 52 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be death in threes and it has it 53 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: has been, right Ozzie him and Hulk Hogan. But I 54 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: also think that, like, look, what's fascinating to me is 55 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: the eighties come to kind of like real life, like 56 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: what we saw in the eighties on TV Cosby Show, 57 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: what we learned about Bill Cosby since oh yeah, by 58 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: the way, that show really not funny. On the other hand, 59 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: you can't deny what a breakthrough it was in network 60 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: TV at that time slot and what was big then 61 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: is not now and it is so different. Then you 62 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: go to Ozzy Osbourne, who you know was was basically 63 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: seen as a devil worshiper, at least by my parents 64 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and you know later on 65 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: in life. They were kind of the first American or 66 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: non American, but first rock family to let us into 67 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: their home with the Osbourne's, And I thought Ozzy became 68 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: a very likable, likable person if you watch that show. 69 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: And then Hulk Hogan went from kind of an American 70 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: icon too exposed to being something completely different in his 71 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: personal life, and he had a reality show as well. 72 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: But I thought that that people who kind of mourned yesterday, 73 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: they were more mourning the loss of their childhood. I thought, man, 74 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: remember when wrestling was super fun. Now it's like I 75 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: got to keep up with the script. I don't know, 76 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: you know now it now it really now we always 77 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: I always knew it was fake, but it had that 78 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: maybe some of this is real to where now it's 79 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: just a TV show. But Jay Stu, you had a 80 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: different perspective and I thought it was great and I'd 81 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: give you the Florida share it. 82 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that I understand. I understand both. 83 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: I heard what you had to say, and I've seen 84 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: others that were quick to criticize or how about this 85 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: not as uh not as celebratory and embracing of of Hulk, 86 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: And then I understand why there was such a massive 87 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: reaction to it. Part of it is what you said. 88 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: I think part of it is like losing the childhood. 89 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 3: But like Sam just said on the air, his real name, 90 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: and I just found this out today as I was 91 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: googling it. Terry Bolea is a very flawed individual, bordering 92 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: on like a despicable individual. And I blame the entire 93 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: business model of wrestling. As I was growing up through 94 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: the eighties, I didn't watch it. I have never caught on, 95 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: so I come at it from that perspective. But it 96 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: always seemed like an entity that always functioned with a 97 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 3: kind of a wink and a knot, like you know, 98 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: smart people know this is fake, But for all the 99 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: other people that don't know it's fake, let's not tell them. 100 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 3: And we're gonna have this massive fan base of people 101 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: that don't know if it's fake or not, and that'll 102 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: just create this amazing entertainment. And then you have the 103 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: biggest entity, Hulk Hogan in that. So you have this 104 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: entire generation of people that are just like Hulk Hogan. 105 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: He's my hero. 106 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: Whole. 107 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: Hogan the ultimate heel. He's iconic Hulk Hogan. So I 108 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 3: think all of the celebration yesterday in his passing was 109 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,119 Speaker 3: celebrating Hulk. But I think you can and should make 110 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: the differentiation between Terry Bolea and Hulk Hogan. And that 111 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: Terry guy is disturbing. And why do we know that 112 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: Doug because of a lawsuit when he sued that website 113 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 3: for the sex tape. All this discovery came and those 114 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: the N word and all that stuff came with it, 115 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: and then we find out all these less than nice 116 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: things about the guy. And if you watch the Vince 117 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: McMahon documentary that I just did, he did a lot 118 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: of things business wise that were not up to par. 119 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: So it's like that guy that was not the character 120 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: isn't that great. But I thought that's wrestling's fault for 121 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: doing this to us. They've confused us between the character 122 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: and the guy. 123 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: I thought that the one of the parts that you 124 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: brought up when we were discussing this, which is I 125 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: thought brilliant, is when you once you go rest professional wrestler, 126 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: you can never come out of character. Think about that 127 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: for a second. You can never come out of character 128 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: like that would be as if Gene Simmons could would 129 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: always have to walk around with makeup on Okay, that 130 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: would you know? Pick your favorite actor, even the guys 131 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: that are like method acting, you know, and I've heard 132 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: some of these stories of a guy but he's a 133 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: method actor. It's annoying. You go to get coffee and 134 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: he answers you as you know, he talks to you 135 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: as the character he's in the film. Yeah, but once 136 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: the film is shot and edited, the method acting ends. 137 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: And not in pro wrestling, right, Like Dwayne Johnson's been 138 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: able to do a little bit of it, but he's 139 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: still the rock. He still has to carry on some 140 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: of that kind of persona. And yeah, it's one of 141 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: those things where you once you take on this caricature 142 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: and this character, that's who you have to become. So 143 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: we don't No one knows who Terry Pagoula Pagoula actually 144 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: is Terry b Terry Pagola owns the bills, right, does 145 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: he owned the bills? I think he owns the bills? Dan, 146 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: how about you were you were you a pro wrestling 147 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: guy growing up in Wisconsin? 148 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 5: Well, I liked I liked wrestling and I liked hull Cogan, 149 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 5: and that's where I thought all of it was about yesterday. 150 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 5: I don't disagree with some of the things that you said, Doug, 151 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 5: you're not being a wrestling fan. I think it's when 152 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 5: you were a kid, or even now, which I am 153 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 5: not now, but I was when I was a kid. 154 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 5: I think that it's it is different for those that were. 155 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 5: I felt like yesterday was about about our childhood and 156 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 5: about nostalgia. I was talking last night with Mike Harmon 157 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 5: about this because obviously it wasn't on your show yesterday, 158 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 5: and I felt like it was the same thing with 159 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 5: Malcolm Jamal Warner, like I know Bill Cosby was. We 160 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 5: completely looked different on him back in the day. But 161 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: I think we all related to theo because we were 162 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 5: somewhat around that age, and I think that hit home Ozzy. 163 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 5: The same thing with the music in Hulkgan. As you 164 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 5: look at the eighties, it was always about big, enormous superstars, 165 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: whether it be in music, whether it be in acting. 166 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 5: It was the bigger, the better, and there was nothing 167 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 5: bigger than hul Cogan. And so I felt with all 168 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 5: of us as coming from that era, that lived in 169 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 5: that era, that's what yesterday was about. I could be 170 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 5: wrong in that we're going to look at Hulkgan the 171 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 5: rest of the way now until eternity, in however fashion, 172 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 5: you're going to look at him. But I just felt 173 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 5: in that twenty four hour period, it was about us 174 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 5: looking back on our childhood and remembering the excitement and 175 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 5: all the fun that you had, and watching wrestling and 176 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 5: watching him of the ring and do his thing in 177 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 5: the ring. That's what I thought yesterday was about. 178 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: I I again to be fully transparent. Okay, One, no, 179 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: I never I didn't like wrestling. I wasn't a wrestling guy. 180 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: I did watch it, Okay, I did watch it. But 181 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: the two there's a couple of main reasons why I 182 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: wasn't really a wrestling guy. One, not only was it fake, 183 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: but I had my I was like a constant argument 184 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: with my dad, was like, Dad, that's fake. No, it's not, 185 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: yes it is. It's like it was an insane argument 186 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: to have. By the way, It's a lot like some 187 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: of the arguments people are having now. It's like the 188 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: did you guys see the video of Trump yesterday with 189 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: the head of the Fed. It's like, look as three 190 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: point one billion they're like, that's a building that was 191 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: built five years ago. Like what just when you're having 192 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: arguments with people that it doesn't matter what you say, 193 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: they're just it it like it does no traumatic truth 194 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: actually matters. It makes for an awkward conversation. So that's 195 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: part of it. And then I was also a little brother. 196 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: Remember so the role of the little brother and I 197 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: because I was the little brother, I was also basically 198 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: the little brother for all of my brother's friends. So 199 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: you know, whatever Jimmy supervised Snooka did somebody did to me, right, 200 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: that was and and these are moves that every big 201 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: brother did on a little brother, or buddies did on 202 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: each other, and they should not have during that time period. 203 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: So there's a reason that I have a bit of resistance. 204 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: And then again it's just like one of those I 205 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: just ever never kind of got into the storylines or whatever. 206 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: But it is crazy that we created this bigger than 207 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: life figure like Hulk Hogan during his prime. Remember they 208 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: he'd get hit by a chair and they they'd have 209 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: a truck come out and run him over, and they 210 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: about to pin him and they'd hold up his hand 211 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: and it would fall down and they'd hold up his 212 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: hand and it would fall down and they'd hold up 213 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: his hand and all of a sudden then they'd be 214 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: made into a fifth to a number one, and he 215 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: was and and Hulk was back like it was. It was. 216 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: It was so over the top to me that I 217 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: was like, oh, why are we watching this? And yet 218 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: everyone I know was into it. They were all into it. 219 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: But it is interesting on how when somebody dies, like 220 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: we we choose, you know, it's like we're gonna would 221 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: choose to either remember fondly the image and achievements, or 222 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna remember the whole picture, and some will be 223 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: hyper focused on the negative. I try and be in 224 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: the middle on all these things. 225 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 4: Yes, Sammy, So Hulk Hogan died. He died suddenly, like 226 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: this was, you know, not expected. He passed away. That's 227 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 4: not necessarily true, yeah, okay. 228 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, well okay, I mean the rumors and stuff, and 229 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 5: people have talked about how they found out he wasn't 230 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 5: in good health. 231 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 4: Okay, so he wasn't good. But I think this was 232 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 4: a shock to most people, right, would that be fair 233 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: to say, yeah, yeah, he just passed away, Oh, Hulk 234 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 4: Cogan is said, So I think when we talk about 235 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 4: people like if Hulk Hogan was terminally ill and we 236 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 4: had six weeks to have two months to be ready 237 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: to say goodbye to him, then I think people would 238 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: discuss all the good in the bad when someone dies 239 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: kind of like out of the blue. I think people 240 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: tend to look at the positives first. It's almost like 241 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: you go to someone's funeral, you're gonna eulogize him. You're 242 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 4: not gonna get up there and say awful stuff about them. 243 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: You might say that stuff between friends after the fact, 244 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: but I think a lot of people will tend to 245 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: look at the positive things first and then the negative 246 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 4: things after. I think, Doug, maybe people were a little 247 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: resistant to you yesterday just going right at like the 248 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: bad stuff he did in his life, or as you know, 249 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: as Terry Bulea. So I think that it's it's sort 250 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: of a timing thing. Like if we had all the 251 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: time to kind of eulogize and look at his life 252 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: and he was a slow descent towards death, that's something else. 253 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: But he was just gone all of a sudden, Oh 254 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: my gosh. We have to look back at Hulk Hogan's life, 255 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 4: you know, all at once in one show. 256 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: I agree with that, just like this assumed grace period. 257 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: I remember after Pete Rose passed there was a sentiment 258 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: from the media that was like, yeah, sure he had 259 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: a lot of flaws, but today isn't the day to 260 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: bring those up. And it's like, I don't know why 261 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: that's the rule. 262 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't either. 263 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 5: I don't tell you why, because I thought of Pete 264 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 5: Rose as well. Pete Rose lived his life off off 265 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 5: of him betting on base like that. There was for 266 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 5: how many years, thirty five years of his life. I 267 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: feel like it was all about the betting baseball sort 268 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 5: of deal, the autograph signings, all of that stuff, like 269 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 5: it became him. I don't think that this took over 270 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 5: Hulk Hogan's life. I think they try to run from it. 271 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 5: We're finding out stuff like after the fact. But I 272 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 5: think that's why we look at it differently. 273 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: Okay, I Steinbrender to me was the one that jumps out. Obviously, 274 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: Pete Rose happened most. I was working at ESPN Radio 275 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: at the time when Steinbritder died and there were all 276 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: these people like eulogizing Steinbrunner, and I was just again, 277 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: it was the day he died and I just said, like, 278 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: what are we doing, Like, here's the guy who spread 279 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: lies about Dave Winfield. Hey, and you know that trying 280 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: to destroy a guy trying to destroy Dave Winfield. That's 281 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: what because you know, because what was because he was 282 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: he was injured when he signed with the with the 283 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: Yankees or whatever, like whatever your logic behind it was, 284 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: that's what George Seinberg got suspended for. And it was like, well, 285 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: you know they won four World Series. Yeah, but that 286 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: was after like fifteen years of the same thing over 287 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: and over again and hiring and firing, you know, the 288 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: same manager over and over again. It was a circus. 289 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: And you know, just because the baseball department, you know, 290 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: was smart enough to draft Derek Cheater and to develop 291 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Mario Rivera and the players. And the other part was 292 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: it's like they kind of represented this aeroid era as well, 293 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, not Jeet or not Mo, but Roger Clemens 294 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: and others. So I just thought it's a time. You 295 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: never get a chance to circle back two weeks later 296 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: and go like, hey, by the way, Hulk Hogan blatant racist, 297 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: dropped hard r N bombs, you know, like we're not 298 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: circling back to talk about Hulk Hogan after the day 299 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: he died. So I understand there's supposed to be some 300 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: grace period and we're only supposed to say nice things 301 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: and we're supposed to remember them finally, just like you know, 302 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant only remembered fondly. Now again, I think Kobe 303 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: Bryant's complex. I thought Kobe Bryant really ended his when 304 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: his life ended. Unfortunately, it was when he had really 305 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: matured and become way more thoughtful, way more likable. So 306 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, that stuff was sort of buried, but it was. 307 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: It was part of the entire story. And I just 308 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: think when you die, it's part of the entire story. 309 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: And part of the whole Colgan story is we had 310 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: this he was Captain America. That's who he was. He 311 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: was Captain America. And then we find out like, yeah, 312 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: he he said did some things that are terrible. There 313 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: is one other part to hold Coga which should be mentioned. 314 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: You know, he was like early on when he became champion, 315 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: he was like in his mid thirties, and you know 316 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: he was he was bald then, and it's one of 317 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: those if you're gonna go bald, you are almost better 318 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: going bald in your thirties, because then he was seventy one. 319 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean some of the close ups he 320 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: didn't look great, but he definitely didn't look seventy one. 321 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 1: And a lot of it is he went bald. If 322 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna go gray, go gray early. If you're gonna 323 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: go bald, go bald early. Just again. 324 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 5: You know, Oh man, what that was just quite the 325 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 5: left turn. 326 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: It was a left turn. But it's true. It's true. 327 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: I thought he balded gracefully. To be honest, I thought 328 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: it worked for him. Yeah. He was just tan and 329 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: swollen his whole life. Like we're just like you could 330 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 4: be fifty, you could be seventy. 331 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't, right, but I'm telling you had he had 332 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: like a full head of hair when he started and 333 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: then had the look that he had. You know, at 334 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: the end, it would have been like, man, ho Colgan's 335 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: looking older. But you have no idea how old. No 336 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: one had any idea how OLDI it was, you know, 337 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: because he was already bald when he became a star. 338 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 4: He kept the peroxide industry in business for his entire life. 339 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 6: He did be sure to catch the live edition of 340 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 6: the Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon 341 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 6: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 342 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Our good 343 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: friend Mark Dominic stops by. As it is that time 344 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: of year, players are at camp and we're starting to 345 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: get a good sense of what teams look like, and 346 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, Mark, you know you have there's there's 347 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: not a litany of them this year, but there's enough. 348 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: He got some of these hold ins, a couple of 349 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: whole we need the general manager and you have these 350 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: things going on. How do the coaches proceed in terms 351 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: of making their plans in place? I asked that because 352 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: it's like most of us feel like eventually these deals 353 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: are going to get done anyway, but if the guy's 354 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: not at practice, there's going to be some catching up 355 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: to do. How does that all work when you have 356 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: a guy holding in or especially a guy holding out? 357 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean a lot of times, you know, it's 358 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 7: obviously communication as the GM with your coaching staff. What's 359 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 7: going on specific your head coach of where the negotiations 360 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 7: sit and how long do we think this is going 361 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 7: to be? So that way we can make sure we're 362 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 7: getting the reps to the right people in the right spots, 363 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 7: or our swing tackle now is to just focus on 364 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 7: left tackle or right tackle. Or you know, maybe we've 365 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 7: got an outside linebacker who you know can play both 366 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 7: left and right, but now he's going to just focus 367 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 7: on being on the right side. So those are the 368 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 7: things we're talking through. But it's constant communication with your 369 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 7: head coach. It's also a constant communication with ownership. Where 370 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 7: does this stand? What's the hold up? And what are 371 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 7: we fighting for versus what are they fighting for and why? 372 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 7: And so all those things come together, and you know, 373 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 7: you try to create it to be the least amount 374 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 7: of the strategy can be. And so as you handle 375 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 7: it within the media, as you handle it internally, you know, 376 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 7: you don't stress about it, you don't worry about it. 377 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 7: You just keep moving and you try to tell the 378 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 7: young guys, here's a great opportunity for you to get 379 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 7: reps that maybe you wouldn't get before. And you know, 380 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 7: let's take advantage of that while we get them. 381 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's get to a couple other kind of 382 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: issues going on right now. Let's start with the Tampa 383 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Right where you have you have a rookie 384 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: who's who is four hundred and fifty pounds, four hundred 385 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: and fifty pounds. Obviously right now he's he's got he's 386 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: on the injury list due to non football issues. But 387 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: here's one. How do you handle that if you're the 388 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: GM of the Buccaneers back in your old job. 389 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's a unique one, right, and you know 390 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 7: what kind of temperature and what you're going to be 391 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 7: playing in, right, I mean, that's that's the thing that 392 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 7: for Tampa. You know, basically they do most of their 393 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 7: work on the field, right. Sure they'll do some work 394 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 7: off the field and their dome, but usually that's more 395 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 7: of the walkthrough just to keep out of the heat. 396 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 7: But what they like to do is make sure that 397 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 7: they're taking advantage of the heat that they're in. So 398 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 7: that way, when teams come to town and play them 399 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 7: in September and October, what's still hot, that they're conditioned 400 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 7: for it. So you've got to kind of think about 401 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 7: that when you're putting your team together. As talented as 402 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 7: the guy is, you know you're going to put him 403 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 7: through a lot of pain. This way with the you 404 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 7: know the weight that you're going to have to deal with, 405 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 7: and I think that's probably what's going on. And you know, 406 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 7: that's something that they had to decide with Desen Watson. 407 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 7: Did it make sense right the Florida defensive tackle? Does 408 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 7: it make sense to sign him? And if so, what 409 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 7: kind of shit can we get him into? And clearly 410 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 7: he's on the non football injury list, and so, you know, 411 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 7: I think it's just one of those things where he's 412 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 7: still got to get himself in the right type of 413 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 7: shape to be able to handle the floor, to heat. 414 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah well, or or just to handle life like that's 415 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: a he's a big man, but that's that's just too 416 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: much weight, just too much weight. What should our expectations 417 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: be of Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh? 418 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 7: I think they should be good. I think this is 419 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 7: you know, still I still believe in Aaron Rodgers that 420 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 7: he's got another season with him that's going to be 421 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 7: better than what I think most people think, just because 422 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 7: it's been so frustrated in the last two years. I 423 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 7: think that, you know, the one thing that's a little 424 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 7: concerning for them is, uh, you know, obviously, Robert Woods 425 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 7: is a veteran who's you know, really up there now 426 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 7: in terms of age, but good for him that he's around. 427 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 7: I think it's a big piece of them as really 428 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 7: is Roman Wilson come back and kind of fly into 429 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 7: that you know, where Calvinos was a slot, can Roman 430 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 7: Wilson kind of fit into this mold and be the 431 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 7: player they drafted a third round two years ago. They 432 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 7: didn't get to see him last year basically, so that's 433 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 7: a big piece of it. I like the offensive line. 434 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 7: I think they're going to be okay there, but you know, 435 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 7: the tight end position. Johnny Smith's obviously came into his 436 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 7: own the last couple of years and really he's got 437 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 7: a lot of balls that's going to give him a 438 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 7: lot of work with Pat Firemuth and then big Darnell Washington, 439 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 7: so they've got pieces all around them. I think defensively 440 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 7: they're going to stay in every game because I think 441 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 7: they're so good on that side of the ball. But offensively, 442 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 7: I think with an Aaron Rodgers, you're going to see 443 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 7: a guy that's got a lot of confidence back there, 444 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 7: and you know, I think that you're going to see 445 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 7: a lot of deep balls to dk Metcalf and using 446 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 7: his size and strength to be able to you know, 447 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 7: bust things open and then again using Austen and I 448 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 7: think Roman Wilson has really the guys that are working 449 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 7: the middle of the field and working, you know, the 450 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 7: linebackers in that slot position. 451 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone can argue that from general manager 452 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: to head coach to coaching staff, Lions did a great job. 453 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: But what the real challenge is when you start to 454 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: lose coordinators, right, and they've lost a lot. They've lost coordinators, 455 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: so they've also lost coaches and they've lost some players. 456 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: On the other hand, some of those pieces are still 457 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: there in terms of the players. What are your expectations 458 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions this season. 459 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think probably were a lot of people left 460 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 7: off that it's hard to kind of sit there and 461 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 7: look at them and go, boy, I think that they're 462 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 7: really going to take a step back at all. I mean, 463 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 7: you know, with the fact of if they would have 464 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 7: if they would have had a leaning meal down the stretch, 465 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 7: if they'd have certainly had Aiden Hutchinson down the stretch, 466 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 7: could have this whole season been even more special. Yes, 467 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 7: So I think that's kind of the The interesting part 468 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 7: is that you know, hopefully this team can get through 469 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 7: this training camp and stay healthy, because I think that's 470 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 7: really going to be the big piece that is for everybody. 471 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 7: I don't mean to be generalization there, but it really 472 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 7: is critical when you see team like there's a special 473 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 7: star players to get through training camp and kind of 474 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 7: get to week one and be healthy. Because I think 475 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 7: the expectations are at the right spot. You know, I 476 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 7: think that they're certainly contenders for the Super Bowl. Uh 477 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 7: you know, I like Tate Redlers, their second round pick, 478 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 7: who they brought in there to kind of really you know, 479 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 7: he'll be able to step in even you know, when 480 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 7: the unexpected retirement for them maybe somewhat, so they had 481 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 7: the right picks at the right spot. I like this 482 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 7: team a lot. I think it's hard for anybody to 483 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 7: look at them and go I think they overachieved last year. 484 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 7: I think they were who they were were and you know, 485 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 7: they were actually I think achieved even better considering the 486 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 7: amount of injuries they went through. I think they're the 487 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 7: team to be in the NFC North. Where's Chicago. I 488 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 7: want to see a couple of games to say, but 489 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 7: I think the Packers are right on their heels. 490 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about the Packers. You know, what, what 491 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: do you really think of Jordan Love? Like last year 492 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: it was like, ah, he had some good games and 493 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: he was better than we thought coming into last season 494 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking about and then some of the good was 495 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: very good, but there was a high turnover clip there. 496 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: Maybe not in comparison to the Farve days, but obviously 497 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: football has played a much more efficient throwing the football. 498 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: Now what your if you were going to give a 499 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: breakdown of Jordan Love, now you have a couple of 500 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: full bodies of work, what would it be. 501 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's it's actually really good. And I 502 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 7: think what happened towards the end of the season. You know, 503 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 7: the Chicago game wasn't anything to write home about, but 504 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 7: when you went from about halfway through the season to 505 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 7: the end of season, I think he threw one or 506 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 7: two interceptions the entire time. So I mean I think 507 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 7: as the season went on, I think he was like 508 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 7: ten and one the second half of the season with 509 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 7: touchdown interception ratio and his yards per tempt were, you know, 510 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 7: averaging close to nine yards for templary. He took all 511 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 7: those games combined as well, So I think there was 512 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 7: some really good stuff happening during the season towards the 513 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 7: end that said, hey, Jordan Loves, you know, kind of 514 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 7: found his game. I know early on against especially in Minnesotah, 515 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 7: had the three interception performance. But I like it, you know, 516 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 7: I like Matthew Golden. I think that's going to really 517 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 7: even make the offensive weapons more exciting. And I also 518 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 7: think that he's got more options with Luke Musgrave being 519 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 7: back and then hopefully being a full part of this 520 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 7: offense as well. They didn't have him last year really, 521 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 7: and so when you think about adding to Golden, adding 522 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 7: the Luke Musgrave and then taking Jordan Love where he 523 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 7: is with that offensive line where it's set, I don't 524 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 7: see a reason to not believe in Jordan Love. I 525 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 7: think what we're seeing is what we're getting. And I'm 526 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 7: a buyer. I'm a guy that wasn't sure what he 527 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 7: was going to be. But for two years now, once 528 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 7: he's got over fifty fifty touchdowns and something like twenty interceptions, 529 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 7: that's I mean, that's that's a that's a really nice combination. 530 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 7: And he's thrown again last year just twenty five, but 531 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 7: he's thrown for over thirty touchdowns of the season, which 532 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 7: is a huge barometer for quarterback success to me in 533 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 7: this league in terms of long term success. 534 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: Uh uh what what? How do you think Russell Wilson 535 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: does in New York? 536 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 7: I just that one. I'm not sold on. You know, 537 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 7: it's not because it's Russell Wilson. It's just I still 538 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 7: look at that offensive line and I still scratch my 539 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 7: head saying, I just don't know if that line is 540 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 7: going to be good enough. I think they're a good 541 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 7: team that can be strong at the line of scrimmage, 542 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 7: but they're certainly not doing a great job of protecting 543 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 7: the quarterback in my opinion, and I don't I don't 544 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 7: see the difference here. I still see problems in that 545 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 7: offensive line in terms of pass protection, and I think 546 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 7: that spells trouble for for Russell and in a division 547 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 7: where you know, to me, they're the fourth place team 548 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 7: already trying to find a way to get victories and 549 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 7: it's going to be hard to beat the Cowboys and 550 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 7: the certainly the Commanders and obviously the Eagles and let 551 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 7: on the other games. I mean, it just feels like 552 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 7: there's a lot of upshill grinds here. I don't feel 553 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 7: as optimistic about the impact Russell Will having the Giants, 554 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 7: as I do feel like, you know again, I think 555 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers helps the Steelers maintain that you know, nine 556 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 7: and eight, ten and seven. But I still think that 557 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 7: the Aaron Rodgers Pittsburgh Steels aren't better than the Baltimore Ravens. 558 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: Who's the sneaky team, the team that is going to 559 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: sneak out, Let's sneak up on us, and when we 560 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: get to November December, we're going to start kicking ourselves 561 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: for not having discussed them more. 562 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 7: I think the sneaky team is the Aribon the Cardinals. 563 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 7: I think that they're better than people realize. I think 564 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 7: that there was some really good stuff we saw last year, 565 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 7: but I think they've improved at linebacker, and I think 566 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 7: that's a big piece of it. I think that's a 567 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 7: spot where I feel like that's just a better team. 568 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 7: Paris Johnson the tackles, really taking big strides in steps 569 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 7: and what he's done. I think Kyler Murray and all 570 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 7: the quote unquote does he love football has kind of 571 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 7: been thrown out the window, and it's kind of like, Okay, 572 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 7: Tyler's all in, and so I think that's a team 573 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 7: because I think that Cherld Junior is still going to have, 574 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 7: you know, a lot more impact than he had even 575 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 7: his rookie year. So I think the Arizona Cardinals are 576 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 7: the sneaky team in the nation football if I'm allowed 577 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 7: to pick them. 578 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's interesting. You know, Ganna gets a job 579 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: and his opening press conference and some of the video 580 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: stuff not great. But you could say the exact same 581 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: thing in Philadelphia right where, you know, when when he 582 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: got the job. And again I don't love the bravado 583 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: and act or whatever, but I mean it's been a 584 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: one eighty from when we first you know, when we 585 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: first saw now the defending Super Bowl champion coach kind 586 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: of take the podium and you know, there's Yeah, I 587 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: think I'm with you. I think they're they're They're not terrible. 588 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: They're actually pretty darn good and kind of going under 589 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: the radar. Okay, I'm trying to figure out with the 590 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs offensive line seems to be a mess, 591 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: But I like, I'm not dumb enough to say, hey, 592 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes can't figuregured out? But is 593 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: this the league that the AFC figures out the Chiefs. 594 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 7: You know, I hate picking against Kansas City in any capacity, right. 595 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 7: I mean, what they've done in the West, and obviously 596 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 7: what they've done to get the Super Bowls has been 597 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 7: just dramatic, and getting received Rice back is a huge, 598 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 7: huge piece. But I think we solve the problem with 599 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 7: the offensive line in the past and how that really 600 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 7: kind of you know, clipped the Chiefs certainly in the 601 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 7: Super Bowl. And it feels to me like what you're 602 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 7: feeling is what I see, Doug, is that it's a 603 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 7: team that's kind of got a patchwork somewhat offensive line. Obviously, 604 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 7: tracing this got is a huge deal, which is great, 605 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 7: but still at that left side, it makes me very uncomfortable. 606 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 7: I'm sure what they're going to do is they're going 607 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 7: to have to protect on that side a little bit 608 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 7: more with the tight end position or chipping, and that's 609 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 7: what Andy Reid's going to do. I think there's still 610 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 7: like it's them in the Chargers, you know. I like 611 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 7: what Denver's done, and we'll see what the Raiders can do. 612 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 7: But it's then in the Chargers. I think it's neck 613 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 7: and neck, but I still think the Chiefs on But 614 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 7: I don't think the Chiefs make it the Super Bowl 615 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 7: this year. I think that it's going to be more 616 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 7: of a Buffalo Baltimore situation than it's going to be 617 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 7: Candas City. 618 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're kind He's kind of like Jordan, right, and 619 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: you have like Pat Ewing and Never in the East, 620 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: and they've been they've been blocked off by those Chiefs 621 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: for for so many years. Mark. I know you get 622 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: excited this time of year, so do we love having 623 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: you on. Have a great weekend. Thanks for joining us 624 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: on the. 625 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 6: Show, you bet, Doug. 626 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 7: Thanks man. 627 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 628 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 6: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 629 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're 630 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: having a great day. Everybody's having fun today, so let's 631 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: get after it and play a game with Dan Buyer. 632 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 8: Dan, this is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 633 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 8: All Right, Doug, the game today is I got all Right, 634 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 8: I got dibbs. Is the topic or the the game today? 635 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 8: The first topic on the board, we throw it out. 636 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 8: Everybody tries to grab theirs. Topic Number one favorite metal bands. 637 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 8: This on the heels of the passing of Ozzy Osbourne 638 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 8: favorite metal band go. 639 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: I got DIBs. I got DIBs. Iron Maiden one of 640 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: the greatest bands ever. I've seen them live probably two 641 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 3: dozen times. And Bruce Dickinson kicks ass, by the way, 642 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: and that's a commentary among among the Maiden faithful Irons Up. 643 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: If you didn't like prior to Bruce Dickinson, I guess 644 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: you're you're not sophisticated enough. It's kind of like the 645 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: David Lee Roth Sammy Hagar thing. Nothing wrong with liking 646 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: Sammy Hagar. I just want Bruce Dickinson and my Maiden eaters. 647 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: I got on Tool Tool. 648 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 4: It's nice nice a couple of reasons. 649 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: Last night, it's it's Grace's Grace is my metal head 650 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: bassist daughter. It's her favorite band. Uh. My guy, Eric 651 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: Chennawick did get his tickets and we got to meet 652 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: Maynard Nice and despite the fact he's a big Kansas 653 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: basketball fan, I enjoy him and I think they're kind 654 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: of awesome. So bunch to choose from. Because I've seen 655 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: she might say Dream Theater, I'm gonna go with Tool. 656 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 4: I like Dream Theater too, but Tool. I would take Tools. 657 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 4: I got DIBs on Dream Theater, the band that opened 658 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 4: for the comic you saw in. Yeah, oh yes it was, 659 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 4: because that actually happens. 660 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: Nategins. 661 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 4: I got DIBs on Metallica, who I played coming into 662 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 4: the segmentary a little Blitzkreed cover. 663 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: Uh. 664 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: You can't spell Metallica without metal. So they're the goats 665 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 4: in my book. 666 00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take some people off and say Motley Crue. Yes, yeah, 667 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 5: I know it's people. 668 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: They're not metal. They're not metal. I don't mind that. 669 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: I don't mind that. 670 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: Well, it's just it's, you know, they're not metal. But 671 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to me though. 672 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: There it is. 673 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Yeah, No, they're they're a hairband. 674 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 5: It's the controversy the metal. Hey, shout at the devil. 675 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, Doctor feel Good is very heavy. You know, 676 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 5: no nod her a metal band. That that's not that's 677 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 5: without argument. I mean they became a hair band. 678 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm okay with that argument. 679 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 5: Fine, all right, all good picks across the board. Next 680 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 5: one favorite Major League Baseball trade deadline memory. Favorite baseball 681 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 5: trade deadline memory. Iowa Sam is shaking his head. It's 682 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 5: either he doesn't know or he just can't believe that 683 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 5: that trade. 684 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 3: Went down when it did. 685 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 5: I got DIBs when Randy Johnson was dealt to the 686 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 5: Astros in nineteen ninety eight. Oh, I remember it. I 687 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 5: was an Asses fan back then, and I thought it 688 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 5: was going to change the face of the National League. 689 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 5: And then they got beat by the Padres. But oh well, 690 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 5: there it is. What year was that, nineteen nineteen ninety eight? 691 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 5: I believe, yes, I checked that out by my college apartment. 692 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 5: I don't know if like if you how you guys 693 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 5: go back in your like, I remember the apartment that 694 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 5: I was in when he was traded, So that would 695 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 5: have been the summer between my junior and senior year 696 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 5: of college. 697 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: What was your CC Sabbathew was traded to. 698 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 5: The Brewers two thousand and eight. 699 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be that'd be mine. 700 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go with the Many Ramirez two thousand and fifteen, 701 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 3: fourteen many World. 702 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 5: Many would actually was twenty ten maybe, and that was 703 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 5: a deal that was done like after the deadline had passed. Yeah, 704 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 5: and that's game time. 705 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 6: His game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 706 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: Will Nick Saban ever coach college football again? Wait? Till 707 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 1: you hear what he says next