1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: So I know when you originally recruited the Penn State 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: they want to use a defensive end, but there was 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: that struggle to put weight on to play that position 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: for you, um, and what was that like for you 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: and be Um, what do you think you can bring 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: to this Giant's defense that really doesn't have a pass 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: rusher other than Marcus Golden is not even on the team, 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: who has had deble digit sex the last couple of years. Honestly, 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: the struggle growing well, coming to Penn State and trying 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: to put on some weight, it wasn't too much of 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: a struggle. Is just something that is for what fit 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: at the time. You know, at the time I was 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: about to twenty n even to twenty two, and they 14 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: figured it out be more effective at linebacker at the 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: time than than a defensive end. So I mean, of course, 16 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: if I grew into the spot, so the open moving 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: me to d end and for me, luckily it wasn't necessary. 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it worked out well for me to be 19 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: a linebacker of Penn State. But uh, going into the Giants, 20 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: I really do hope to just play my role, play 21 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: whatever road that is as a linebacker outside, inside, whatever 22 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: the cousin want to do. I was gonna. I was 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: wanna make plays, honestly, to get my name out there, 24 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: start to make place. Thanks, aren't you can go ahead 25 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: with your question? Hey, camp, congratulations, thank you, thank you. Uh, 26 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: just curious, I mean, obviously, mus We'll get it out 27 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: of the way. We know your Penn State connections and giants. 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Some curious how many of those guys have you been 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: in contact with? And I think it's probably pretty obvious 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: that Sean Spencer gave you a high vote of recommendation 31 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: for you to land here. What's your relationship with him 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: from the start? Honestly, h I talked to Grant am 33 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,279 Speaker 1: stay Quan of course spends everybody on draft there. Everybody 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: congratulated me just reconnecting with them a little bit and 35 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: say and uh and Grant. It was more so I 36 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: was just asking them for a little bit of ice, 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: just just bouncing a little quick ideas off of them, 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: real quick. But I'm pretty sure more communication will go 39 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: on as long as this goes on, as long as 40 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: we're away from each other. But honestly, spend my guy, 41 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: like I said, I was gonna be recruited as a 42 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: d N. So we had a we had a relationship. 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: It came to give me all the time on during 44 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: recruiting in high school, and it's growing in blossoms. I 45 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: feel like I became one of the guys who could 46 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: trust on the defense and the guys that I trusted 47 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: him to go to problems and things like that. So 48 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: our relationship is growing and I hope he continues the blossom. Rocky, 49 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: go ahead with your question, Hey, Cam, what kind of 50 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: background you have in the UH special team? Did you? 51 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: Did you play much in college? Yeah, Freshman sophomore year 52 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: was how I made my money, honestly, is how I 53 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: got on the field. So freshman year I played every 54 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: special team's kickoff, kick return, part part return, made some 55 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: plays on kickoff and part return UH. But the sophomore 56 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: year moved into I still was playing a lot of 57 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: special teams. That was more so kickoff, punt a little 58 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: bit punt returned there. But that that year, all those 59 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: two years was just that's where I was getting my 60 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: feet wet, trying to get the experience, understand the flow 61 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: of the game, just going against different players. I mean 62 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: every game could kick off. You really get the size 63 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: people up the game. Where he starts and ends with 64 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: a kick. So that's kind of what it what I 65 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: got used to, and I kind of how I started 66 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: my progressing in college. Do you expect your NFL career 67 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: to cut to follow that same path? Ah? Yeah, I do. 68 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: I definitely understand that as a rookie coming in and 69 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do play and play all the 70 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: special teams. I mean it's at three million roster. You 71 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: gotta play your role, and that role might be in 72 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: multiple places. So I'm really I'm willing and ready to play. 73 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, you guys have any other questions, please 74 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: raise you? Okay, how do you can go ahead with 75 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: your questions? Okay, hey Cam, how are you doing doing well? 76 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: Are you doing I'm doing well? Thanks? Did you work 77 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: a whole lot with Coach Spencer? I know you know 78 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: he cross trains a lot of guys. Can you just 79 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: talk about working with him and what he teaches and 80 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: what you think that's going to translate to when you 81 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: get to this level. Yeah. Coach Spence, we used to 82 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: call him the ultimate motivator. He's gonna get guys riled 83 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: up the way he his coaching style is really energetic. 84 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: He's out there which he's gonna run around, he's gonna 85 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: crack jokes, he's gonna yell at you get on hard, 86 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: but you know it's coming from a loving place. So 87 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: with coach Spence, I mean going through different drills, like 88 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: certain days we had hunger drills. What we cause Like 89 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: each day it's pretty much you're working out on things 90 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: that coaches feel that we need this week, like maybe tackling, 91 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: maybe a handwork for their pass rush. And with coach Spence, 92 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: he was always there to correct with pass rush moves 93 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: and things like that. So I mean, I I hope 94 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: and and pray we can get some more cross training 95 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: there and and just so I can keep that relationship 96 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: with them. Hey Kim, huh. Just in terms of your 97 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: skill set, I mean, the Giants seemed to embrace the 98 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: idea of versatility. Um, was there a time in your 99 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: college career where you said, you know what, as much 100 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: as I'm versatile, maybe focusing on one thing might kind 101 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: of raise my profile a little bit. And do you 102 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: feel like maybe you were what what? What kind of 103 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: lead people to maybe overlook you in college might be 104 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: something that when you get to this defense and the 105 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: way they want to use you might expand your profile 106 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. Honestly, in college, I wasn't too concerned 107 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: about focusing on one thing. I was doing whatever the 108 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: team needed, whatever coach probably asked me, honestly, and that 109 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: was from jumping from positions, from Will to Sam go 110 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: back to Mike. Honestly, for me, it I feel like 111 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: that versatility and that diversity and positions I played has 112 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: only helped me. I feel like, I don't mind. Maybe 113 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: people may have overlooked me. It's fine. I made my 114 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: way to the NFL and I'm I'm ready to show 115 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: what I could do there and whatever the coaches want 116 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: me to do, their past restaurant coverage, whatever it may be, 117 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm ready to do. When you watch the game now 118 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: that is being played in the NFL, do you see 119 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: yourself as someone who could thrive in doing that variety 120 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: of things? Yes, I do. I feel like I feel like, 121 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: like I said, the versatility and all the positions I 122 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: played helped me a tremendous amountain because middle linebackers sometimes 123 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: you gotta guard running backs. You got a guard tight 124 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: ends the outside. Sometimes you got you got stayed over 125 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: the slot, whatever it may be. And I feel like 126 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: with this spread offense that's coming to the NFL, and 127 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: there's all these multiple weapons and big old tight ends 128 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: that everybody's using. I feel like I'll be able to 129 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: match up very well against it. Thanks right, you can 130 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: go ahead with your question. Can you hear me? Camp? Yes? 131 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: I can. All right. I'm not great at this zoom thing, 132 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: as we learned this weekend. Um, you became kind of 133 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: a Giants fan favorite on Draft night with your tweet 134 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: about the Cowboys. What uh where did that come from? 135 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Did you grow up a Giant's or Eagles fan? Why 136 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: did you grow up not like in the Cowboys? Honestly, 137 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: I can't tell you. I couldn't tell you probably watching 138 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: the game when that tweet came up, But honestly, I 139 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: rather not talk about something that went on seven years ago. 140 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: You know, did you grow up a Giants fan? Honestly, no, 141 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: I did not. I jumped around teams for a while 142 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: and then grew up a Patriots fan. So okay, And 143 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: how does being six five as a linebacker help you? 144 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's big for a line The Giants 145 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: have another one in Lorenzo Carter who's tall like that, 146 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: But how does six five linebacker that you you expect 147 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: a size on the defensive end. Honestly, it helped get 148 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: on windows. When you're six five on the second level 149 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks trying throw a gig, it's kind of hard. 150 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: And when you got it clear about seven eight feet 151 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: of height and length and arms, so you know, it's 152 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: kind of it's for me. It's been getting into windows. 153 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: It helps with the ranging. It's just even when you're 154 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: diving for tackles that that length allows you to get 155 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: a little bit further than most. Now you with your question, Hey, Cam, 156 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm back to that initial phone call with Joe Judge. 157 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of talk about how he was 158 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: pretty serious with the other players who were drafted, you know, 159 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: not to go on the and talk to us about, 160 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, super Bowl expectations or anything like that. I'm 161 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: curious kind of what that call was like. And playing 162 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: in a program like Penn State, where they've had I 163 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: think it's general evan players draft for the last two years. 164 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: How does playing in a program like that get you 165 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: ready for the job to the NFL. Honestly, I think, 166 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: especially with the Giants, is a great organization, very professional organization. 167 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: I feel like with us Penn State is known to 168 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: be high standard, high character, and I feel like that 169 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: transition is gonna be very smooth from me. And even 170 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: because Judge he's a humble guy, he wants us to 171 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: have a humble but ambitious goals, honestly, So from from there, 172 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: he wants us to focus on what we gotta do now, 173 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: and that's that's honestly getting through this Corona thing. Thanks man, Yeah, 174 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: how do you go ahead with your question? Thank you? 175 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: Dian Hey Cam, I just want to go back. You 176 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: mentioned you you feel you're very versatile, and I want 177 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: to get a better idea, And I apologize I I 178 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: didn't really follow Penn State a whole lot, but I 179 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: want to get a better idea as to how versatile 180 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: you are. Are you? Are you primarily a stand up guy? 181 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: Have you ever played much with your hand in the germ? 182 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: Are you more of a five? If you have played 183 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: the defensive line? And do you play nine? Why can 184 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: you just kind of feel that in those gaps? For me? Yeah, 185 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: I know for sure. My freshman year I played with 186 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: Will boundary backer for US, which gets a lot of action. 187 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: Then sophomore year, I moved to the sam position. While 188 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: playing will still and the SAM for us is almost 189 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: like an NFL nickel. We sit on top of two, 190 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: we're rerouting receivers, We're not really in the run game. 191 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: Junior year, I moved, I stayed at SAM and played 192 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Mike on third downs. Mike for us on third downs. 193 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: It's our past corverages, that's us our dollars. When we 194 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: were mixing stuff up, blitzing whatever it may be, and 195 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: that that's when I played that in the senior year 196 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: of the same combination. Honestly, so I bounced around and 197 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: even at the SAM position. Sometimes when there's no two wide, 198 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: I was playing a wide. I don't so honestly, I 199 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: played a little bit of everything. I haven't put my 200 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: hand in the earth, so but out the side of 201 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: that everything on the second Okay, thank you, prob. What's 202 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: your question? The last question, hey, Cap and graduations appreciate that. 203 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm just curious. Joe Judge talked about their being, uh 204 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, the way he they go about talking to players, 205 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: and they used it as an opportunity at times to 206 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: sort of pick your brain on other players. So I 207 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: was wondering, how different was your interaction with them as 208 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: a team maybe than with other organizations in general. Honestly, UM, 209 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't say it was too too different 210 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: because a lot of teams want to see how you react, 211 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: how you respond to teams, like questions about other guys 212 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: who if you're negative or positive. But I feel like 213 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: with them it was honestly, it was more so just 214 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: they want to get more of a well rounded uh 215 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: view on me and as how I looked at the game. Honestly, 216 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: I feel like that's how they what they took out 217 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: of it, just like player when they asked questions like 218 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: who's the best player you win against? Like I I 219 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: answered the question of j K. Dobbins uh this year, 220 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: who's just an amazing player. But like things like that, 221 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: I feel like he wanted to just see your deeper 222 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: understanding of football. I feel like that's what they were 223 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: getting out of that. Appreciate and also did they give 224 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: you an idea of where they're gonna start you at? 225 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: At least positionwise? Honestly, at linebacker, I can tell you 226 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: that outside or inside of it, that's up for the 227 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: big foot, that's linebacker.