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Speaker 1: You're listening to Dracking Network, the John Nick and Kenny

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Speaker 1: Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 2: John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 1: I love him.

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Speaker 2: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: Big job there, Cook, Duffian Brett Beers.

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Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not twenty fifteen. Kenny Florian just looks that good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my goodness. Did you come right off the

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Speaker 2: grease set with your amazing jean shirt and your hair

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Speaker 2: slicked back? Obviously there's been a haircut since we last convened.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, John, I'm kind of rocking the denim today.

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Speaker 3: I don't have denhim jeans on with a little dis

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Speaker 3: pointed about just all denim on my little Canadian tuxedo.

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Speaker 3: I don't have that going on. But the hair's getting

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Speaker 3: a little fin on top. I may have to make

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Speaker 3: a little trip to Turkey. They need Nick six number,

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Speaker 3: so let me know.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, there's a follow up question journalist in me,

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Speaker 2: would you consider a hair transplant? I do see summer

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Speaker 3: Little bit, why four hits looking like a five head?

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit it's a little bit concerning for

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Speaker 3: my wife, I'll be honest. So yeah, I wouldn't rule

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Speaker 3: it out at this stage. John, Yeah, so we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I don't know they would get Their technology is amazing,

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Speaker 2: but even without it. At anti Florian pod scale of

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Speaker 2: one to ten, just how good is Kenny Florian look today?

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Speaker 2: I would give about a nine for a guy born

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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy six. You look fucking fantastic. Good to

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Speaker 2: have you all back with us. It is Monday, March

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Speaker 2: twenty fifth, twenty twenty four, right after eleven am Eastern

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Speaker 2: Standard time. It is episode four seven six of the

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Speaker 2: Anakin Florian Podcast. How is your weekend?

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Speaker 3: Kid?

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Speaker 2: Anything exciting or no, let's.

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Speaker 3: See anything exciting? Not really man, you know watch those fights.

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Speaker 3: Uh and uh, I'm sure we got a lot to

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Speaker 3: Any pistol training, always pistol trap. I've been on I've

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Speaker 3: been doing a lot of dry fire, you know that stuff,

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Speaker 3: well just kind of like drawing and you know, no

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Speaker 3: If anyone's interested in that. But uh, yeah, man did

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Speaker 2: Get in the yard work, get in the yadwork thereon Charlotte,

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Speaker 2: North Carolina. We got a lot to get to today.

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Speaker 2: We will talk briefly here off the top about Connor

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Speaker 2: McGregor's rumored potential return. We will also recap the heck

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Speaker 2: out of UFC fight night nom a Unis versus Heboss.

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Speaker 2: We are also scheduled to be joined by Yusef Zillau.

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Speaker 2: What a weekend it was for him back in the

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Speaker 2: UFC and uh get to finish over Billy Corntello to Boots,

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Speaker 2: So we're excited to talk to him, and uh, I'll

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Speaker 2: a lot of different things coming up later this week

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Speaker 2: as well. Scheduled to be joined by annattol Moikano in

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Speaker 2: advance of his appearance at UFC three hundred, and of

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Speaker 2: course we will have predictions for the upcoming jaunt to

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Speaker 2: Atlantic City for the Combat Sports Leader so Ken Flow

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Speaker 2: and Brian Petrie actually scheduled to go seven fights deep

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Speaker 2: later this week. And thanks to everybody who has found

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: So Connor McGregor had this Roadhouse obligation, or I guess

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Speaker 2: that should be plural, Kenny, seems like a lot of

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Speaker 2: For me, when I look at a movie that's longer

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Speaker 3: So whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Wait, isn't John

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Speaker 3: Anakin Roadhouse? Am I wrong about that?

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's just that I'm almost

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Speaker 3: Again, Connor has so much going on, so many different opportunities,

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Speaker 2: So, Dana White pointed to these obligations that are now

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Speaker 2: That would seem to make a lot of sense, and

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Speaker 2: it would put Connor on a potential schedule to fight

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Speaker 2: You have to also get through a training camp healthy,

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Speaker 3: I think he had to get surgery again. But you know,

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Speaker 3: it's amazing. It's amazing what determined, strong human beings like

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Speaker 3: Chris Widman can do. You know. Definitely has my interest

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Speaker 3: a high note. All right, So I just need a lean.

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Speaker 3: I just need one word, essentially, quick answer. If you

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Speaker 3: whose direction are you leaning to have their hand raised

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: My god?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Sorry, that's not a rundown today, Kenny, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Ah, you love surprising me. Listen. I would say this Connor.

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Speaker 3: Talent wise, he's the better fighter. Skill Wise, he's the

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Speaker 3: better fighter. Okay, he's the better fighter, there's no question

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Speaker 3: about it. If Connor is at his best, Connor wins

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Speaker 2: Some people suggest that International Fight Week is so robust

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I think that's the way I saw John.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll listen. I think that's very accurate. And some

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Speaker 2: They will complete their trilogy, but I guess in this nature,

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Speaker 2: Maybe that would be as soon as September. Not cha UFC,

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Speaker 2: Fair point. To be sure, we congratulate Rose nam Unis

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he sure did. There was a scare. Though there

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Speaker 3: You know, no, no, it isn't. You need consistency if

433
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Speaker 3: you're trying to get to the belt number one, and

434
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Speaker 3: of course holding onto the belt takes a tremendous amount

435
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 3: of consistency as well. So you can be a very

436
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 3: exciting fighter, you could maybe even make a lot of

437
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 3: money doing that. But if you're trying to move up

438
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 3: the ladder and have a killer be killed mentality, then

439
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 3: you can't expect consistent results with that. Yeah, maybe there's

440
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 3: certain fights out there that are kind of like that,

441
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Speaker 3: but to have that general idea or have that general

442
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 3: methodology for your fight career probably isn't going to be

443
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Speaker 3: the most long lasting.

444
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Speaker 2: All right, So I want to talk about Carl Williams

445
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: in the comain event. I certainly want to get to

446
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: Peyton Talbot because it looks like Canflow might be hopping

447
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: aboard the band wagon wagon at this point in time.

448
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: I'd kind of like to table the biting incident for

449
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: the Largo minutes. So let's get to Peyton Talbot over

450
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Speaker 2: Cameron Simon if we could. The TKO comes at the

451
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: twenty one second mark of round two, and Kenny, you

452
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: and I are both high on both of these individuals,

453
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Speaker 2: but certainly we were more familiar with Cameron Simon coming

454
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Speaker 2: in and yeah, we're Peyton Talbot fans. To be short,

455
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Speaker 2: what a performance? Your thoughts on that?

456
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, listen. I think sometimes we can play into

457
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: someone's last performance a little bit too much. I know

458
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 3: I certainly did that and ate a lot of Crow

459
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Speaker 3: because of it. I thought that Simon was a live dog.

460
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 3: I thought that certainly Talbot has the more potential, but

461
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: I thought the way that they were matching up and

462
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 3: maybe showing some you know, chicks in the armor in

463
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: his last fight, I thought that Simon could maybe expose

464
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: some of that. Now he did land some good shots,

465
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 3: landed some hard shots on Talbot. But there's no question

466
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 3: about it that there's certain guys. When you see them perform,

467
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 3: you can see that not only are they good, like

468
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: Simon is good, Talbot is special. What makes them special,

469
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Speaker 3: It's that ability to pick the right shots at the

470
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: right time and show a high level of execution, understanding,

471
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 3: speed and precision. Talbot has that. He's got that, and

472
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Speaker 3: I know he hates this comparison, but he does have

473
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Speaker 3: that certain Sean O'Malley type quality where he can put

474
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Speaker 3: your lights out in a variety of ways at a

475
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 3: high level, whether it's moving forward, whether it's countering you,

476
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: whether it's getting you off balance because of his movement.

477
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 3: Not a whole lot of strikers have that. Talbot has that,

478
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Speaker 3: And it was clear for me after that fight against Simon,

479
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 3: an experienced dude, a pretty skilled dude, that Talbot is

480
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Speaker 3: going to be someone to watch.

481
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Speaker 1: Man.

482
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Speaker 3: He's a problem.

483
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 2: So would you give him someone in the top fifteen.

484
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: He was asked about that after the fight, and the

485
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: name on the tip of his tongue was Domina Cruz,

486
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: largely because he couldn't even name a lot of the

487
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: other bantamweights who are occupying that top fifteen right now.

488
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: I mean, would you like to see a more deliberate

489
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: approach or do you think he's ready to fight somebody

490
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 2: in that absolutely ruthless bandam way tough fifteen dude.

491
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Speaker 3: I mean it shows where his confidence is at, where

492
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, let me face one of the greatest

493
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: phantom weights of all time, prehaps the greatest bandway of

494
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: all time, with Dominica Cruz. That says a lot to

495
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,239
Speaker 3: me that this kid is very, very confident. I'm not

496
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Speaker 3: sure I would go that route at this stage of

497
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 3: the game, and I'm not sure Dominic Cruz is going

498
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 3: to give him that opportunity this stage of the game.

499
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: And you know, I always say this, and we were

500
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 3: just talking about this, take that slow approach to the belt.

501
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: Get that experience first, don't just you know, maybe he

502
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 3: could and maybe he could have he could win. I

503
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: don't no, you know, but I would say, get some

504
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 3: other guys, you know, get that experience. You only have

505
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: what eight fights now at this stage of the game.

506
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 3: Face some other tough guys so that when you do

507
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: face one of the legends in Dominica Cruz, you can

508
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 3: win that fight and look impressive. Or when you do

509
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 3: eventually get that number one ranking or when you get that,

510
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 3: you know, title shot, you can go out there and

511
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 3: and and do damage and prove why you're so damn good.

512
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: So that all comes with experience, and I always use

513
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 3: Sean O'Malley as that measuring stick. He took the right

514
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: fights at the right time, and it's not just the

515
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 3: fighter that makes a lot of these decisions. Credit goes

516
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: out to his coaches, his management for taking those right

517
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 3: fights at the right time. Not an easy thing to

518
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: do in this sport because so many times we lead

519
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 3: with our toughness and our courage and it's like, yeah,

520
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: give me that guy, whoever it is, and let you know,

521
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 3: let me eat. But maybe that's not the best idea

522
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: to do at that stage of the game.

523
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Speaker 2: And one guy, ironically who talks a lot about that

524
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: is Domina Cruz about careers, building methodically and accepting the

525
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: right challenges and promotionally, the UFC doing the right thing

526
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: by the fighters and giving you certain stylistic challenges en

527
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: route to building yourself. And part of the reason I

528
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: didn't book Domina Cruz is because he's not going to

529
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: give us anything fruitful, at least when it comes to

530
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: his actual fighting career and anything potentially when it comes

531
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Speaker 2: to Jose Oudo UFC three to OHO one. It's interesting though,

532
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: because I do know that that Joseado fight did appeal

533
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: to Dom, and I don't know the extent to which

534
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: it really came out of left field. I think it

535
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: kind of did. Like I feel like if Dom was

536
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: approached about UFC three to OHO one Rio Joseado, he

537
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: would have been like, wait a second, what that dude's

538
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: coming out? I wish I had known a couple of

539
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: weeks prior. But Way and Talbot go ahead, Kim Flow.

540
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, well, Dom's a guy who has

541
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: done everything you know, with a certain method, and he

542
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 3: thinks about He deeply thinks about the change, the choices

543
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: he makes, how he goes about things. This is what

544
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 3: a professional does, right, And Tom is approached and went

545
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: through He's not going to just take a fight because

546
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: oh it's interesting. It also needs to make sense for

547
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: him from a training perspective, from a preparation standpoint, everything

548
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: he does, he's thinking about it. That is clear with

549
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: Dom Cruise.

550
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: And I think for Peyton Talbot there's a lot to

551
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: lean into there and usufs Allow, who were scheduled to

552
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: talk to later, talked about after this UFC fight that

553
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: when he was in the UFC prior, he fought like

554
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: five times in a calendar year and he wants to

555
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: take a slower approach. Now, sometimes that can be challenging

556
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: when short notice opportunities, even as a credentialed, rostered UFC

557
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: fighters surface, But I do think that for usufs Allow,

558
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: for a lot of athletes, to slow things down. Still

559
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 2: try to get your three fights a year, two point

560
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: six fights a year, whatever it ends up being. But

561
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 2: you know, to not try to fast play things and

562
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: just jump at opportunities because it seems like the upside

563
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: is there. Peyton Talbots eight, No, we congratulate him on

564
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: the win over the South African he gets a bonus.

565
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: Dads did Fernando Padia for his Bravo choke? What'd you

566
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: think of Carl?

567
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: What's up?

568
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: Williams? Over Sintafa and the comain event Ken Flow.

569
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 3: He fought smart. He fought smart. He didn't just stand

570
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: there and trade in front of Tafa. He did a

571
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: great job of disguising his clinch entries, of disguising his takedowns.

572
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: I thought it was very efficient. It was smart and

573
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: he escaped some danger, you know, instead of just kind

574
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: of trading which I've seen him do in the past.

575
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: He was mixing up his levels, he was hitting the

576
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: takedowns at the right time, he was getting good position,

577
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: he was draining Tafa of his energy, and when Tafa

578
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: did get back to his feet, Toper really didn't have

579
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: a whole lot of power in his shot. So I

580
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: thought it was a really smart game plan and excellent

581
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: execution as well.

582
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: Other big winners Juliani Rosa by submission. Nice guillotine for

583
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Speaker 2: him on the prelim portion. Trey Ogden, who you might

584
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: have heard on the Antiki Flora podcast last week thirty

585
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: twenty sevens across the Board can Flow against Kurt Hollibow.

586
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: Pretty impressive performance by Trey.

587
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 3: Dude. Looked great, looked fantastic. It really reminded me as

588
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: far as his ground control and what he was doing

589
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: to take his opponent out of the fight. I really

590
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: reminded me of George Saint Pierre. It was the exact

591
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: same kind of playbook methodology approach. Completely took Kurt out

592
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: of his game. And again, Kurt isn't just some other dude.

593
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: He's a very dangerous guy with knockout power who also

594
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 3: happens to have a black belt and Brazilian shit too.

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00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: And Ogden, you know, maybe there was one scare where

596
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: he ate kind of. I think it was a shot

597
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,120
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00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: Other than that, he kind of made it look easy.

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00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: Man Ogden looked fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's good to see you, guys. Hey, good to

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's good to see you. Can we put last

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Speaker 1: What was last week?

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Speaker 2: Last week? I guess there was some miscommunication when it

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Speaker 1: Very unprofessional. Yeah, I mean, Kenny, after five thousand episodes,

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Speaker 6: No, I know, right, five thousand, oh man, five thousand

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Speaker 6: sick of this exercise or something.

649
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: We're only on like four to seventy six.

650
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, for seventy six.

651
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: You know we got planned for episode five hundred.

652
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, I don't know what do we have?

653
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, Probably a hair transplant for someone. We

654
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: might shut your fucking head, I don't know.

655
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's any sponsors out there looking at my forehead?

656
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: Let me here, right, yeah, yeah, right, what is.

657
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: Pretty that's pretty damn good at your your age.

658
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: Shit, I want the Turkish heap plans.

659
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about that a little bit earlier.

660
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: I think Kenny is uh, or it seems like maybe

661
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: Kenny's wife is pushing that initiative.

662
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah she is.

663
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Ray, So I do want to talk

664
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: to you briefly about the UFC Fight Night that was.

665
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: But what a huge weekend coming up for you in

666
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: Atlantic City? To what extent are you nervous?

667
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm always nervous. Yeah, I'm very nervous. You know, Bazook

668
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: is looking for his first win, Wideman wants to get

669
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: back on track. So it's, uh, it's nerve wracked.

670
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: So it goes beyond just going Atlantic City because it

671
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: makes Atlantic City makes me nervous just walking, all.

672
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: Right, they keep us in the hotels. It's all good,

673
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: all right.

674
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: So before we get to Dennis Bozukia and Chris Wyban,

675
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: you also got the kid Charlie Campbell coming up April six,

676
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: So a lot of big time fights coming up for

677
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: Ray Longo. But uh, andy thoughts for us on UFC

678
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: Fight Night on Rosenama Unis has went over Amanda heboss,

679
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: what was your Saturday night?

680
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: Like, uh yeah, watch the fights. I tell you. The

681
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: kid that really impressed me as that Peyton Talbot. I

682
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: just love his attitude. You know, it's funny. He looks

683
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: like he's got some gaps in there, but he don't

684
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: give his ship man. It's it's not even his style.

685
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: It's his attitude. The way he walks you down and

686
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: just almost breaks you, just by his nonchalant list and

687
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: nonchalant this, and the way he just doesn't give a

688
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: ship man. And he's precise, he's accurate. He looks like

689
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: he's got great awareness. The way he was timing those

690
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: knees Kenny, you know, like again his head's up in

691
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: the air, but it just doesn't look like it matters

692
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: at this stage, which is good. I think it was.

693
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: And he's fighting like it was crazy like to have

694
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: that level of like he's been there before. He seemed

695
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: ship like.

696
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: And that kid was no joke, saman I think his

697
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: name was, Yes, I think it's it's not even its attitude.

698
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: His attitude is unreal and the way he did just

699
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: it's another day in the park for that kid.

700
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: It really is, really and I love it.

701
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: I love watching that and that, to me, he's the

702
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: standout guy. But uh, getting back to Rose, I thought

703
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: Rose looked phenomenal. I thought Rose was phenomenal. I thought

704
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: she you know, even in the you know, the scrambles

705
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: and the wrestling exchanges. Man, she's she's good, you know,

706
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: especially fighting up a weight cliss from where she was

707
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: a plus the Rose on that, I think she's going

708
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: to get some big fights and she deserves it. I

709
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: thought she looked great, you know.

710
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, and I did enjoy some of those mid

711
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: round grappling exchanges and flow. I mean, certainly we can

712
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: poke at some of the technique, or Kenny could, but no,

713
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: I liked ross urgency in those moments when it seemed

714
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: like he lost, was scoring, so to speak. So yeah, no,

715
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 2: I think there was definitely more good than bad for Rose,

716
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: even if this wasn't you know, a title shot stamping performance.

717
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: So you're not wrong.

718
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: No, No, Reabus is tough being you know, she's she's

719
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: hard to get out of there. So but even once

720
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: she hit it with that, I think ahead and on throw,

721
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, dude, she the way she scrambled

722
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: back on top, I thought, you know, the kid's good.

723
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: In judo, right, she's she's you've seen her on the ground,

724
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: She's good, and she got out scrambled. I think every

725
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: one of those exchanges. So I think there was a

726
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: lot of positives to take away, and I thought I

727
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: thought it was a really good performance. I might be

728
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: by myself on that, but I don't know. I liked it.

729
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: No, I thought there was upside to the fight for sure.

730
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: I was a little bit critical earlier of the fifth

731
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: round because it just felt like we were not running clock.

732
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: I mean, the numbers suggest that both athletes landed like

733
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: twenty five twenty eight strikes in the round, but it

734
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: just didn't feel like if I went to take a piss,

735
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: that I was going to miss a finish and in

736
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: the fifth round of the UFC main event. I want

737
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: that feeling. I want keeping me up on the East coast, right, Yeah, yeah,

738
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: you care for the Europeans. Right, Like we asked you

739
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: about the fight, you immediately start talking about Payton Telp.

740
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I listen. I thought that kid was the state.

741
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: He was the refreshing star. There was a lot of

742
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: really there was a lot of really good fights, but

743
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: that kid, to me stood out And again I'm always

744
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: pulling for the guys that come from a small camp

745
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: and stuff. You don't even never even heard of them.

746
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: They're in Reno, Nevada, you know. Yeah, unbelievable, unbelievable, I

747
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: thought anyway. But no, Rose, I just thought was consistent, right, No,

748
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't that type of fight. But you know, I think,

749
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think Rose is just that girl that

750
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: you really want to get behind for some reason, and

751
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: she's a sweetheart. You know, Pat's a nice guy, and

752
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: you just you want to see nice people do good.

753
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm going more on that, but I thought overall, she

754
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: had a good performance against a tough girl at a

755
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: heavier weight.

756
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's well put. And Rose and Pat have

757
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: just been such great people to so many of us

758
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: in the MMA space over the years, so certainly nice

759
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: for them to be able to celebrate this pretty significant win.

760
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: All right.

761
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: So, when Connor McGregor was doing his media leading up

762
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: to Roadhouse, and I hope you don't roll your eyes necessarily,

763
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: Ray when I ask you about Connor McGregor, But when

764
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: he's doing all of this media, he talks a lot

765
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: about having more to accomplish in MMA and in the UFC,

766
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 2: and every time he has said that over the years,

767
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: maybe to my detriment, I have taken him at his work.

768
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: So what is your relative appetite to see Connor McGregor

769
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: back in the UFC potentially twice here in twenty two

770
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: twenty four, But to see him back and see him

771
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: against Michael Chandler maybec come June twenty nine.

772
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: Well, you know, John, you learn when you're around this

773
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: game for a long time that you get to a point.

774
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: Some guys get to a point where you know their

775
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: brain is still talking but their body isn't backing it

776
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: up or whatever. But am I excited to see him fight? No? What?

777
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: Let me let me compliment him first. I did see

778
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: Roadhouse this weekend, okay, nice, I thought the guy was phenomenal.

779
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: I thought he did a great job. So let me

780
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: start off with that mean complimenting. I thought he did

781
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: a great job. He was the Condor McGregor, I think

782
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna like in that. And I thought he had

783
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: great screen presence, and I thought he did a great job.

784
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: I don't think you could do everything at the same time.

785
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: And I think that's probably where his problems are, is

786
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: that he's got so much stuff being thrown at him.

787
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: That fighting if full of fightings in that guy's blood.

788
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: You know, he was a fighter. I love the way

789
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: he handled the defeats and the victories, you know, but

790
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: you know, the clock's running out. I don't think he's

791
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: been doing good lately since the Mayweather fight. Was he

792
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: got one win against Cowboy Cowboy, which you know, like again.

793
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 3: Bad.

794
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I was looking at there,

795
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: but he's got a long way to come back. And

796
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: what ways they're fighting at fifty five?

797
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: No, we don't know any of that. We don't know

798
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: the weight class, we don't know the date necessarily. I

799
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: know Connor did maybe mention June twenty ninth, right, but

800
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: we know people don't fast forward the Ray Longo minute.

801
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: But a lot of people when I probe about Connor McGregor,

802
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: they don't even want to hear that noise. And I'm

803
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: just suggesting that Connor is not going to want to like,

804
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: he's not going to enjoy his retirement if he doesn't

805
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: get back in there. A couple of times, I'm telling

806
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: you that is a hill upon which I'm willing to die.

807
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: Right right. Well, it's like the boy that cried wolf.

808
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: We hear a lot of stuff I'm fighting. I'm not fighting.

809
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: He's dictating everything. I don't blame the people having that

810
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: that sentiment, but you know, I think he's got a

811
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: long way back to compete at that level. I'm excited

812
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: to see Michael Chandler get a big fight that. I'm

813
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: excited for it, but I just hope. Look, at this point,

814
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: we thought they were fighting a three hundred. We thought

815
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: they were fighting before they did the show. Normally you

816
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: fight what twelve weeks after you've done the show. You know,

817
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: they run the show and then they build up for

818
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: the fight that that never happened. So you know, you

819
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: start losing people at that point. You know it's it's

820
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: too long. So the longer he stays out, the longer

821
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: those people are going to complain and not give me ship.

822
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: So after al Jamain Sterling fights Calvin Cater at UFC

823
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: three hundred, what is the rest of your night in tale?

824
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: Do you need a ticket? We got to git a ticket.

825
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: If you got me a ticket, man, that would be outstanding,

826
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, especially since I think Algie was the first

827
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: fight of the night.

828
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: But no, you're not the first night of that night.

829
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm joking around, but you know.

830
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: Well, but you can't sit with the uh the lay

831
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: men and women, right, I mean, my seats aren't on

832
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: the floor in the VIP section like Rogan's, right, so

833
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: you'd have to go sit with the fans. Would that

834
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: be okay?

835
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: Gross?

836
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: Don't you know I'm a primate dotter at this point.

837
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I know you got the hip to

838
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: go all the way up to.

839
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: The and based on that, I'll take it.

840
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: Ray, we have two ladies that are going to be

841
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: throwing rose petals as you walk. Yeah, that's perfect. You're

842
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: gonna light it up.

843
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that'll be awesome if you could do it. Yeah,

844
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: because that's a great.

845
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: No, I can't do it. I'm gonna see what I

846
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 2: can do. But I think at this point I promised

847
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: out more tickets that I'm actually set to receive. Cody

848
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: Merrow says there is going to be a seat next

849
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: to him at Ron Pelgrino's Paradise Cantina. If, oh, if

850
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: you're interested.

851
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: That's good too. I mean because I tell you right

852
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: after the fight, they basically throw you right the hell

853
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: out right? Right? Yeah? Good? Yeah? Odd, for sure.

854
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: Get an escort for ray Long go to the loading

855
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: dock so he doesn't try to sneak again.

856
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: Go ahead, we bring back the green room. John, Come on,

857
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: it's a simple fix. Bring back the green room.

858
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: So what was the green room? Just where all the

859
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: athletes used to be able.

860
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: To go, go get some to eat, chit chat, ketch

861
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: up on people you haven't seen in the wild.

862
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: I still love it, just to put things to the perspective.

863
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: Back when I was fighting right in like nineteen eighties,

864
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 3: you know, they had they had seats for all the fighters.

865
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: We'd all go in, we'd sit down. We have like

866
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: seats for me, like the team. We all go into

867
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: totally different environment. Now those seats are so damn in demand.

868
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy. It's just a different different sport.

869
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny. I remember me and me and

870
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: Sarah would I mean I saw I think we were

871
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: front and row literally front row, Yeah, for silver against

872
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: Dan Henderson. I guess I think he fought on that

873
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: card and we came out like like Kenny says, yeah,

874
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: it was Look, those are the perks that I think

875
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: go a long way, you know, because now it's the

876
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: complete opposite. Nobody could get a ticket in the home

877
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: state or who the hell knows who could get a ticket. Yeah,

878
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: not that I've ask for one, but.

879
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: Well, it's a really difficult thing. That is a really

880
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: difficult thing because I know, in talking to my twin

881
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: brother and some other people, they wonder aloud why all

882
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: these athletes can't have the red carpet treatment at every event.

883
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: Could you imagine, for Amber and our staff how many

884
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: requests they get from fighters to attend these UFC pay

885
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: per views like in Las Vegas? I mean, how much

886
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: where do you even going for now? John, Oh, I

887
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: can't even imagine, right, But yes, I mean, it is

888
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: certainly true that the UFC live events and these tickets

889
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: have never been a hotter commodity than they are in

890
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. But we got a roster of what's

891
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 2: seven hundred fighters, right? Can you imagine how many athletes

892
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: plus one get turned away for a Vegas based pay

893
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: per view?

894
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: Right? But John, at the very least, I think if

895
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: the fight is in the home state of the fighters

896
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: and there's not seven hundred fighters in each home state,

897
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: you could spare ten or twelve tickets. No, yeah, sure,

898
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I mean, yeah, it's a

899
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: tough thing. That's reasonable.

900
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: I think that makes a lot of sense. I would

901
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: love to see all the competing athletes uh be given

902
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: some sort of section or seat.

903
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, you.

904
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 2: Know I'm not on It's way above my pay grade.

905
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: So uh, maybe we'll move on a little bit. So

906
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: Steve Lee are a longtime listener, budding mixed martial arts athlete. Uh,

907
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: he's moving to Thailand. Who's going to manage the gym?

908
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: He's going to manage? He's going to managed to timp

909
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: Jim from Thailand.

910
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: Cody Marrow telling us you f c three hundred floor

911
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: seats or twenty eight hundred dollars. So just just a

912
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: vacation for for Steve Lee. Though he's coming back. Is

913
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: that correct?

914
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: Oh he's back.

915
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: Oh he's already back. Oh all right, I got bad,

916
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: bad information.

917
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: All right.

918
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: So Dennis Bezukia fighting Connor Matthews this weekend in Atlantic City,

919
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: New Jersey. Seems like there's going to be a trend

920
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 2: of your guys taking on guys from the New England

921
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: cattel here coming up over the next couple of months. So, uh,

922
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: you know, hots are torn all over the place. But

923
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: what can you tell us about Dennis potentially fighting with

924
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: his head on the UFC chopping block this week. I'm

925
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: just kidding. I'm just kidding, just.

926
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Having I don't know why these guys still talk to you.

927
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I really had no idea. They

928
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: really love you.

929
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: Can I get in here? So I love Dennis. I

930
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: totally say that to try to get Ray go Dennis

931
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: and Nas. These guys have been so gracious and amazing

932
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 2: with me. But these guys can take a fucking joke

933
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: Ray right, I mean they come up under you.

934
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: You can take a joke.

935
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: You can't take a joke. And this business. Don't come

936
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: in this business because it's heartless. It really is.

937
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: I had that fixed skin last week when in the

938
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 2: middle of the Ray Longo minute, regardless of the scheduling issues, like, guys,

939
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: I gotta go, I gotta go. We'll like last week,

940
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: You're like, I gotta go.

941
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: See this is the beautiful thing Kenny of getting older

942
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: in heaven A short memory.

943
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: No record. Remember, I'm like, I'm like.

944
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: Ronald, I'm like Ronald Reagan at this but I have

945
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: no idea what you're talking.

946
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 3: We could have told him it was our five thousand

947
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: show like, I.

948
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: Don't know, I would have agreed with you.

949
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of lack of memory, how's your guy Bazooki

950
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: doing in terms of remembering his last down? And I'm

951
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 2: just kidding, I kid, Wow, he's one of my favorite guys.

952
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: One to tell you that is, dude, I don't even

953
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: if this is beyond the Nate count. I can't get up.

954
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm out, I got hit with a Livy shot. I'm down.

955
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: Cody's been trying for years to get Dennis Bizuki in

956
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: the UFC. We were all absolutely elated when he finally

957
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: got the call, albeit on short notice. Stared death in

958
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: the face with that way, and couldn't have more respect

959
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: for Dennis as a professional athlete. We're just having fun

960
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: at your team's expense, and that is something worth continue

961
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: to do. Here on the Antikonflorment podcast, fucking hates the

962
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: mini men minimum out there? What don't fucking happen?

963
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: Uh? That looks real? Thatnis looks really good. He did

964
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: a lot of his care bount in Vegas and and

965
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: here and uh he looked great the list. A couple

966
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: of times I saw him, I saw him out in

967
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: Vegasy look good. With Al Joe. So, uh now it's listen,

968
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: he's got to perform. The kid's good, you know, but

969
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: you got to you gotta perform when you have to perform.

970
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: In the gym, he's been looking really good, so if

971
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: he could do what he's doing in the gym, he's

972
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: going to have a great night.

973
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: Kenny. I don't know that you ever competed in the

974
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: UFC fight where you felt like your your job was

975
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: on the line necessarily, But I think he's mentally forged

976
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: enough to sort of, you know, compartmentalize that in the

977
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: proper area. But there's a lot of pressure on Dennis man.

978
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: You know, it took him a long time to get

979
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: to the UFC, and it's hard to stick around if

980
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: you lose your first three.

981
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question about it. I think as a UFC

982
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: fighter you kind of have to have that as your mentality.

983
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: First of all, you never know what way the promotion's

984
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 3: gonna go. Secondly, you could be injured and never fight again.

985
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen it time and time again, you know,

986
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: does it? Uh?

987
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: TJ Grant?

988
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: Was it TJ. Grant who was supposed to fight Gray

989
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: Maynard at one point? Yes, got concussed in preparation for

990
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 3: the fight, never fought ever again. So yeah, these are

991
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: these are realities that we have to face as fighters.

992
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: And you know, we'll see certain guys when the pressure

993
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: is greatest, they show up, and sometimes when the pressure

994
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: is greatest they don't. They succumb to it. So I

995
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: don't know, I think, you know, it should be interesting,

996
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 3: but I'm really curious Ray about Carolina Chris, how's he feeling?

997
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: And you know what what is what is he? How

998
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 3: does he feel about this matchup?

999
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: Let me get back to Bazuker the fighter. The fight

1000
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: for Bizooker is with Bizuoka. That's the fight for him,

1001
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because trust me, he looks

1002
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 1: really good in the gym. So the fight is within

1003
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: himself and I hope he overcomes that and he gets

1004
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: on track and he he gets what he really, you know, wanted.

1005
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: So uh, I'm pulling for him. Uh why Bean? Nice

1006
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: talk to He sounds great, you know, ball busting as usual.

1007
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: You know, sent me a text last week saying, was

1008
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: that you that drove by? I just you drive by?

1009
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: So I said, no, I'm in the gym. Why you're here?

1010
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: He goes oh, I'm in Carolina. So this you know,

1011
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: this is the bullpu. So the essence was he was

1012
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: hoping I was there. I mean, this is what I

1013
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: got to go through. It's just like so I call

1014
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: him up and then it's just like fifteen minutes of

1015
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: laughing and ball busting and he's I tell you what,

1016
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: based on the bull busting, he's in a really good spot.

1017
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: That's all I could said. But he says training has

1018
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: been going good, and you know he's been working with

1019
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: jim O, and jim O has a great feel for him.

1020
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm just going for the sneakers at

1021
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: this point.

1022
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: Right, you know that. Yeah, I would have been a

1023
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: nice gesture, though, for you to show up and surprise

1024
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 2: him in North Carolina. Was he thinking maybe that that's

1025
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 2: what he saw, that the Godfather Ray Longo had actually

1026
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: showed up towards the tail end of training camp to

1027
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: surprise him.

1028
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I just I was in Vegas.

1029
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: I would have went out, but I mean that was

1030
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: my schedule was crazy.

1031
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: All right, here's what we're gonna do. The Anakin Flooring

1032
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 2: Podcast is going to fund during Chris Widman's next training camp. Yeah,

1033
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: a trip for you to go surprise him.

1034
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: Okay, why don't we fund the trip for him to

1035
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: come see me in surprise? Can we go that way?

1036
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: I got a room for you, Ray, so whenever you want, man.

1037
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, how far are you from Wideman?

1038
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: I'm probably like I think so, we're like right on

1039
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: the border. I think he's right over there in South

1040
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: Carolina in fifteen to twenty minutes.

1041
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow, so you're close.

1042
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1043
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: If those guys are really that close, then we might

1044
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: have to send you to the Carolinas. Otherwise we get surprise,

1045
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: We get paid a surprise Carolina Chris to come up

1046
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: and uh and see you.

1047
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: Can we put Kenny in charge of his training down there.

1048
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: I trust Kenny, I trust I trust the shedflow that

1049
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: would make me happy.

1050
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Jeff, Jimo and all the guys down there,

1051
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: Joe Seleki very talented group that Chris Wiman is preparing

1052
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 2: alongside one thing we mentioned off the top of the show.

1053
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: What Chris is doing is so remarkable. I mean, Savage

1054
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: doesn't even begin to put into proper perspective what this

1055
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: man has willed his mind and body through. When it

1056
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: comes to all the surgeries and the UFC comeback and

1057
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: everything else. But we did bring it up in the

1058
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: context of Connor McGregor, because granted, Connor has a lot

1059
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: of other demands on his time, but Chris Wyban's a

1060
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: father of three, He's got a lot of shit going on,

1061
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: and this is his second fight back. I mean, Connor's

1062
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: injury happened three months after Chris Wyman's did. But a

1063
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: long winded way of giving Chris just a shit ton

1064
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: of credit for not just getting back on the horse,

1065
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: losing to Brad Tavories, but getting right back into training

1066
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: camp and getting back in there.

1067
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 5: Man.

1068
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: I mean, as much as any New Yorker could have

1069
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: my respect, he has it.

1070
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, looked he's got mental for to two. He always did,

1071
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: and this is the mindset that got him there. But

1072
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, like again, I just look, I get to

1073
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: a point where these guys, because you get close to him.

1074
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to see anybody get hurt at this point.

1075
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe it's me getting older toe there's a combination, right,

1076
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm getting older, and you know, I just really don't

1077
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: want to see anybody get hurt. I don't think he's

1078
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: got one thing to prove. And you know, sometimes when

1079
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: I talk, you know, like I go back to Kabeb,

1080
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: like Kabiev got out on top. I think that's the

1081
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: hardest thing to do, is what Kabib did and what

1082
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: these guys want is always kind of to stay relevant.

1083
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: I think Kabib, if you think about it, Kabib gets

1084
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: out on top, he could if he wanted to come back.

1085
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Think of the money that they're off for him, offering

1086
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: him to come back. So it's a hard decision for

1087
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: these guys to make. But if they make the right

1088
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: decision at the right time, a year or two later,

1089
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: I think the money would be quadruple whatever they get,

1090
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: because the people would want to see him back, you know,

1091
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: instead of you know, maybe last you know, working around

1092
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: too long or fighting too long. So I hope he

1093
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: gets back on track. He sounds great, and nobody's ever

1094
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: going to challenge his mental toughness. It's impossible. You see

1095
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: him the guy. The injury he went through that special

1096
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: was phenomenon. Like I do have trouble watching it. I

1097
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: really can't. And to see that leg get beat up again.

1098
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: Anybody who's had any injury in acl whatever it is,

1099
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: and they're getting whacked in the knee, think about that

1100
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: this guy's leg was broken and he's taken that punishment.

1101
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: You see him want to stop and he's not, and

1102
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: he's still walking through it. And it's just you know,

1103
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: like again, the guy's always been a good friend, and

1104
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, you want to see the best for the guy.

1105
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: I just don't want to see him get hurt. He's

1106
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: got a long way to go. Ma, he's got a

1107
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: great family, and you know, again, I just want to

1108
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: see him do good. But he sounded great. And again,

1109
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: if I go by the way he sounded, he's in

1110
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: a really good spot.

1111
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: Imagine how great he would sound if you actually had

1112
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: the decency to go surprise him during train accompt I

1113
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: tell you.

1114
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: Right, well, that's that's his point. You know, I'll be

1115
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: out there before I'm eighty. How's that? Yeah?

1116
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: So right now, Bruno Silva is the minus two seventy

1117
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 2: eight betting favorite. Your guy, Chris Wadman comes back at

1118
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: plus two twenty five. What are your thoughts on the matchup?

1119
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think everybody's going to have the

1120
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: same to it. You know, Bruno is a big banger,

1121
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: throws heavy. Uh. You know, Chris is a great wrestler,

1122
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: he's got to implement that wrestling, get it to the

1123
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, stay safe on his feet. He could throw also,

1124
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't punch light. But I think his

1125
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: path of victory is obviously, you know, putting that guy

1126
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: on his on his back and you know, going for

1127
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: a submission. And that's what I think is going to happen.

1128
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: I think he will this time. I think he's going

1129
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: to get exactly what he wants and uh, and that's

1130
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: the way to the way to victory.

1131
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: How much do you think this result will factor into

1132
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 2: his future plans?

1133
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: Uh? I think it Hena, I think it'll factor in

1134
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: a lot. Look, he's got a lot of he's got

1135
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: a lot of things on the table now, so he's

1136
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: got I think he's doing great. I love him on

1137
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: the morning show with d C. I think that he

1138
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: does a great job with that. He's got a couple

1139
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: other business ventures, so he's you know, I think he's

1140
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: setting up for his future. So we'll see what happens.

1141
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not like in contact with him that

1142
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: much to know, but what I do talk to him,

1143
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: he definitely he's not he's not staying idle's he's thinking

1144
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: of his future. And he's got a couple of things going,

1145
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: and I think he's in good shape either way.

1146
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: I would agree with you when it comes to kabib

1147
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: hermago Metov that it is hard to go out like

1148
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: that twenty nine to zho free title defenses at the

1149
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: top of your game. But correct me if I'm wrong,

1150
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: kabiben Hermagometta, I was able to retire largely with financial freedom.

1151
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: I think that has grown exponentially since he retired in

1152
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: terms of some of the business ventures and maybe some

1153
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 2: of the gifts that have been rumored to have been

1154
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: handed down. But you know, a guy like Chris Wiman,

1155
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: obviously he has made a lot of money competing, but

1156
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: I don't know that he has the financial freedom that

1157
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: allows him to walk away. He's got three kids and

1158
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: a lot of expenses. And you know those guys like

1159
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 2: him floone woman living in the Carolinas. Ain't you down there?

1160
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: I tell you, listen, it's all depending on the lifestyle

1161
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: you want. He definitely would have the freedom might have

1162
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: and I have a shitload of freedom, right right. That

1163
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: might not be he might not be happy with that.

1164
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's all perspective.

1165
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 3: Right, how much of it. Ray is also being a

1166
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 3: victim of your own toughness, where it's kind of like

1167
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: you experience this this hurdle that you need to jump over,

1168
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 3: and now you go, well, this isn't going to get

1169
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: the better of me. I'm going to go out there

1170
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: and show.

1171
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: You know, he was always that guy, Kenny, Yeah, you

1172
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean, those short notice fights there, losing

1173
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: thirty pounds in a week, he was that guy, you know.

1174
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: And I just think there comes a point where you listen,

1175
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: you can't do that forever, right, It's impossible. So it's

1176
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 1: knowing the time to you know, when to pull back

1177
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: and want to go forward. And again, when you have

1178
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: a mentality like him, he's he might never stop, you

1179
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's it's tough, you know.

1180
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: So I think he needs the right people around him,

1181
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: and I do think he has other options where he's

1182
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: going to be. He should be happy. Hey, I think

1183
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: this guy has accomplished so much, and I think he's

1184
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, he would disagree. I think he's got the

1185
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: financial freedom to do whatever he wants.

1186
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I think it's tough for a

1187
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 3: fighter to retire because in a lot of ways you

1188
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: have to say goodbye to yourself.

1189
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: Right Andrew, Listen, I thought I was going to stop

1190
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: coaching five years ago. I think I might be having

1191
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: the same problem. No now, you know, especially now that

1192
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: I got my hip, I feel great. So I don't know,

1193
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: but I don't I might be in the same boat

1194
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: I should maybe cash into. But I mean, I'm not

1195
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: taking a beating like he is. But you know, look,

1196
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm holding midst My elbows are killing me. You know,

1197
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: you know I'm not waking up like this doesn't have

1198
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: any effect on you. I can't take the leg kicks anymore.

1199
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to. You know, I probably could, but

1200
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, if I had his mentality, I'd be back

1201
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: in the hospital already. That if I had his mentality,

1202
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm already back in the hospital my other leg or

1203
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: the same leg, because I could. I know, I could

1204
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: power it through it, but at a really it would

1205
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: be a shitty expense that I'm not willing to do

1206
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: right now.

1207
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: No transitions for professional athletes just seem like such a

1208
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: daunting thing. And Kenny, I know you obviously went through it,

1209
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: and even probably went through it to a lesser extent

1210
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: when your soccer career ended. But I would think even

1211
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: in a field like broadcasting, you know, how much of

1212
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: my identity is tied to this. All of a sudden,

1213
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: I lost this job. You know, who knows?

1214
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, John, I tell you it's interesting, like when I

1215
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: was doing the accounting and I'd have to fire somebody,

1216
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: or you knew somebody was getting fired. I want to

1217
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: get out of you at the company sucks, blah blah blah.

1218
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait. They get fired. They

1219
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: were lost. Even though they were preparing, they wanted to

1220
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: get out. They were lost, you know what I mean.

1221
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: They don't know what to do if you don't have

1222
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: another job waiting, they get up in the morning, and

1223
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: then that could lead to severe depression. Who knows. And

1224
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: that's what guy's saying. I can't wait to get out

1225
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: of here. So it's a tough thing to walk away

1226
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: from whatever your profession is, you know. I mean, that's

1227
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 1: why you know, I think we've all adjusted. I hate

1228
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: the words retirement. Who the hell wants to retire? If

1229
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: I retire, Joe, you know what, I'd be doing the

1230
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: same thing I'm fucking doing right now, right what I

1231
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: that's what I would want to do exactly.

1232
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: Well, that's great. I mean you have solved the riddle

1233
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: of life at least for a lot of people. You're

1234
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: trying to have a profession that you enjoy. And it

1235
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: sounds like Ray is going to be coaching right up

1236
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: to the casket.

1237
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: So I still he's trying to bring me down. But

1238
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: you're right, though, I mean, I don't see the point.

1239
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I love it. I still love, you know,

1240
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: working with the guys, talking with the guys, you know,

1241
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: going to the fights. What you know, if I didn't

1242
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: like it, it would be impossible to do.

1243
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: No, you love it. Right when I try to dick around,

1244
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: you try to conversation back to mixed martial arts. You

1245
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: were so affected by that Mark Henry's stuff, like he

1246
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: don't watch any of it, right, Like, because you absolutely

1247
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: have a I think you're Your appetite for this stuff

1248
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: has never been more ravenous than it is right now.

1249
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: It could be, you know, everything changes, you know, with

1250
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: as you're moving on, But it could be, you know,

1251
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: it's different, but it definitely I'm still having fun with it.

1252
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, a couple of areas I got

1253
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: to correct, but everything else.

1254
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: Is good, all right, we'll get you out of here

1255
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: on this in the nature of keeping listeners wanting more

1256
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: and keeping it fun for you, What is the Ray

1257
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: Longo reaction going to be like in Atlantic City? I mean,

1258
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 2: my goodness, handshakes and babies and autographs. Are you prepared

1259
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: for all of the uh, you know, the celebrity encounters

1260
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: that you're going to experience A few?

1261
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: Definitely not.

1262
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm not joking.

1263
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't know why you're I don't know what you're

1264
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: talking about.

1265
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: But all right, Well, hopefully the h the Anti Comploring

1266
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: Podcast viewership is out loud and proud. But you can

1267
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: see Ray long ago this weekend UFC Fight Night, Atlantic City.

1268
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: We wish you and Chris and Dennis and all the

1269
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: boys the best and hopefully it's a celebration Monday next week.

1270
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: On the antikn Floring Podcast, I'm looking for.

1271
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: Two wins and enjoying my Easter with my kids. That's

1272
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: what would make my weekend really good. Two winds and

1273
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: a nice easter.

1274
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: Let's go, all right, buddy, Well have a great easter.

1275
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: Is Easter this Sunday?

1276
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 3: Is that? What's going on?

1277
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1278
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 3: All right, yeah?

1279
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: Let time?

1280
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: Holy jeez, you hanging on the Jewish guy in the room. Now,

1281
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: you guys speaking Hebrew.

1282
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: You don't think I know how to speak Hebrew.

1283
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: It's a pretty good attempt at love.

1284
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm a man at the people, you know.

1285
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I guess we'll talk to you next monthy,

1286
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: unless you got anything else, Raymond, that's it, guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm done. Your fried be enough. You want me to

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Speaker 1: stick to No, we do.

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01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: That's the outsig.

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Speaker 1: You got nothing else to.

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01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 2: Say, nothing else you wish of my guys.

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Speaker 1: Good luck this week.

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01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: All the best to Dennis Bezukia, All the best to Chris.

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01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: Why you go?

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01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 2: You're made up for it made Ray Longo just wants

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01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: a new fight kit and some so Ray, we're gonna

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01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to let you go.

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Speaker 1: Ray take it these guys. You guys look great. I

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01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: will see you soon. And let's play in big for

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Speaker 1: three hundred big.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll keep you on for an hour? How about that?

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01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it.

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01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: There he is from the Cantina. Take it from the Cantina.

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01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: with us on the line, fresh off a huge win

1334
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: in his UFC return this weekend, he is factory X

1335
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: zone yusf zilal yusef. Can you hear us?

1336
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 5: Brother, Yes, Sarah, I can hear you.

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01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: Guys.

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01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: Hey, congratulations man, We appreciate the time. How you doing

1339
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: this morning?

1340
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

1341
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 5: Thank you all man, I appreciate you. I'm feeling good.

1342
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:27,479
Speaker 1: Feeling good.

1343
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 5: Don't snow in Colorado, but I feel good.

1344
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 2: So dude, I can't even imagine what that ten days

1345
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: or so and the week's limited time you had leading

1346
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 2: up to this fight against Billy Q. But before we

1347
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: move forward, just take us back to when that call

1348
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: came in the circumstances surrounding it that you had fought

1349
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: so to speak your way back to the big show.

1350
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 5: Oh man, it's crazy.

1351
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 4: So I told him the interviews before you, I was

1352
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 4: I was supposed to be the Ultimate Fighter.

1353
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 5: So they called me. They're like, oh, you're in, Like

1354
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 5: for sure, you're on.

1355
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 4: We love your personality, we love your story, we love everything.

1356
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 5: So I was like, awesome, man, let's do it.

1357
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 4: Because I couldn't find nobody to fight in the regional scene,

1358
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 4: so I was like, let me just go actually this

1359
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 4: fight and go from there. So Michael showcase my skills

1360
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 4: against the highest level and the Ultimate Fighter obviously they

1361
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 4: know and everybody else is going to be there, so

1362
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a lot easier to get in, right.

1363
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 5: So that's that's my whole thought of the whole thing.

1364
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 5: So I go in there.

1365
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 4: It's like two months. It's two months. They let me know,

1366
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 4: and then the week came.

1367
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 5: In, they're like, hey, we got to fly you to Vegas.

1368
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, no problem.

1369
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 4: So it's like almost like quarantine again, like stay away

1370
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 4: from separating from each other, like workout, you have to call,

1371
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 4: they have to walk you back up to the room

1372
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. And from Monday to Friday, I

1373
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 4: did medicals and everything. So I was like, Okay, we're

1374
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 4: ready to go, like lock it in, Like I said,

1375
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 4: buy to my family for five weeks. I said bye

1376
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 4: to my team for five weeks, you know that, all

1377
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 4: the sacrificers, Like we're ready to go. And then the

1378
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 4: producer walked up to me on Friday, knocks on my

1379
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 4: room and I saw the and I was like, oh, man,

1380
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 4: what's going on? Like I was like, you can tell

1381
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 4: when you get in the bad news. And I was like,

1382
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 4: uh yeah.

1383
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 5: He was like can I come in? I was like, yeah,

1384
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 5: no problem, man, come in.

1385
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 4: So I thought I was about to have some fun

1386
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 4: or something, but he's like, yeah.

1387
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 5: You didn't make it to the Final Cup. You're you're

1388
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 5: an alternate man, I thought.

1389
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 4: I was like, literally, I just got a hit, like

1390
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 4: I just got shot or something.

1391
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 5: And I was like, are you kidding me?

1392
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: Man?

1393
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 4: So I called Mark and you guys know Mark, Mark

1394
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 4: loses it and I was just done. I was like

1395
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 4: I didn't know what to do, like I was just lost.

1396
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 4: So I called my manager and my manager was like,

1397
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 4: just stay just stay ready, I'll figure out what.

1398
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do.

1399
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 4: And literally, twenty three hours later, I was watching the

1400
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: Miami card and I get a FaceTime and he's I

1401
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 4: thought he was just kind of like playing around with me,

1402
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 4: but he was like, yeah, you're in the UFC. So

1403
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 4: I man, I I lost it. Man, I lost it, bro,

1404
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 4: after you talk about emotions like this and that, and

1405
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 4: I almost I almost told him. I was like one

1406
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 4: of my good friends called me. He was like, hey, bro, like,

1407
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 4: here's a gift card from movie Eats, like go go

1408
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 4: ball out on food like go go eat like burgers,

1409
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 4: ice creams and all this soft. So I was like, man,

1410
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 4: I'm I'm something's gonna happen. I feel like the whole

1411
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 4: energy the whole week. I was like something was about

1412
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 4: to happen. And I was like just sitting there and

1413
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 4: I was like, Nona, I know what I got. I

1414
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 4: got those little healthy cookies that I always eat in camp.

1415
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 5: So I was like I was just my little ass.

1416
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 4: Eating cookies in there, and I was like, all right whatever,

1417
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 4: and then literally turned three hours later I got that.

1418
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 5: So thank god I didn't do that.

1419
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 3: Wow, that's crazy, man. So so you really weren't that

1420
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 3: Headston and taking this fight against Billy Q, who's a

1421
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 3: very dangerous fighter.

1422
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 4: No, man, Like, if you forget I'll fight you to

1423
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 4: pour you.

1424
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 5: I'll fight the camp like, my confidence is off the roof.

1425
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 5: I was like before I was in the UFC, I was,

1426
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:58,439
Speaker 5: like I said, I was like, I'm young.

1427
01:07:58,520 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: I was twenty three.

1428
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 4: I was not really mature, like not really understanding that

1429
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 4: game that well. You know, It's like now I understand

1430
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 4: the game that well. I know the game that well.

1431
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 4: It's like my confidence And obviously you guys saw it

1432
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 4: in the fight. It was like everybody was so much

1433
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 4: talking about.

1434
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 5: Billy Q, Billy Hughes, this Bill look use that.

1435
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 4: I don't know his thought it was going to be

1436
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 4: terrible for yousef is this, this and that.

1437
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 5: Man I made it look like he was not he

1438
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 5: doesn't even belong to the UFC. That's how man.

1439
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: I made it look right.

1440
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: So what do you attribute to that? To man? By

1441
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: the way, I did pick you to win that fight,

1442
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 3: but you but man, you looked you. You really look

1443
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 3: better than ever. I mean, your footwork, all the different tools.

1444
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 3: It seems like you were making all the right reads

1445
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 3: in that fight. Why is that what's coming together for

1446
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 3: you at this stage of the game.

1447
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 4: It's experience, It's it's really experienced, and I feel like

1448
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 4: people take for granted about that specific fighters, Like I

1449
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 4: talk to the regional scene guys, like even when I

1450
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 4: was finding a reason, I was like, like, you really

1451
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 4: have to like understand the experience and go from the experience,

1452
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 4: right It's like I go in and I fought, and

1453
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 4: like I told.

1454
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 5: From front of millions of people to.

1455
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 4: In front of just two hundred people, you know, and

1456
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 4: I was like this, I'm like in my head and

1457
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I don't know about this.

1458
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 5: Man. I was like, you know, and it makes you understand.

1459
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 4: Like when I got cut, I was like, that's the

1460
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 4: best thing that ever happened to me, you know. I

1461
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 4: was like for me just to understand, Okay, fighting is

1462
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 4: my what I want to do, but fighting sometimes guys

1463
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 4: do it just to fight, you know. I was like,

1464
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 4: I'm fighting to be the best in the world. And

1465
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 4: to be the best in the world, you need confidence,

1466
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 4: you need your skills to be on shot, you need

1467
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 4: everything to be locked in, especially at the new level

1468
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 4: that we have now in the UFC or just in

1469
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 4: m MAY in general. I feel like m MA in

1470
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 4: general right now, like you can't be a good at

1471
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,759
Speaker 4: one thing, Like you really have to be good at everything.

1472
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 4: So and the confidence I got after that, man, is

1473
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 4: the the chip on my shoulder and like, just fighting

1474
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 4: for me. I'm not fighting for nobody else. I feel

1475
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 4: like I was fighting for everybody else before. I was

1476
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 4: fighting for my country. I was fighting not to embarrass

1477
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 4: my people. I was not fighting like fighting to not

1478
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 4: embarrass my coach, not to embarrass my JIU culture and

1479
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 4: my my whatever, the person, my family you know, and

1480
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 4: all that stuff. I was like expecting my family. Man,

1481
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 4: my family is big on that.

1482
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: You know.

1483
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 4: They're like, oh, were you playing uh the UFC is

1484
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 4: This was like, yeah, it's UFC.

1485
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 5: Calm down, like what we.

1486
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 2: Did, like, you know.

1487
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 5: So that was a whole lot of things. The maturity

1488
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 5: I had to learn from experience.

1489
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 2: Use it's a lot with us here on the anicon

1490
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: Florian podcast. One thing you did say with the media

1491
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 2: after the fact was that when you were in the

1492
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: UFC prior, you were on this crazy breakneck schedule and

1493
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: it seems like now you want to sort of take

1494
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: a beat and not beyond that type of schedule. Is

1495
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 2: that sort of how you're going to proceed now when

1496
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 2: it comes to the rest of this year and beyond.

1497
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, my little as I still gonna

1498
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 5: give me some fights.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, I was up on that, but I

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01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 7: was like, I was like, no, like, let me, let me,

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01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 7: let me be smart. You know, obviously I experienced it

1502
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 7: with my teammates, right, they changed their lives by being

1503
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 7: composed and patience and.

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01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 5: All that stuff. So I want to learn from that

1505
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 5: as well. You know. So I want to be a

1506
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 5: sponge this game.

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01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 5: I don't want to be the guy that'd be like, oh, yeah,

1509
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 5: I got to take any fight. Yeah, of course, I

1510
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 5: take every fire you got start.

1511
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 4: You know, I fought seven fights and like literally five

1512
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 4: fights in one year, like in the UFC. So it's

1513
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 4: like I was saying yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

1514
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 4: like to everything. So I like I said, like, I

1515
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 4: want to be smart about it, right, but I still

1516
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 4: want to fight the top.

1517
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 5: Guys like I want to. I want to be the

1518
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 5: best in the world. I'm not.

1519
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 4: I'm not the guy that want to be like, oh

1520
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 4: I don't want to fight this guy. I'll wait until

1521
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 4: six months. No no, no, no, no, no, like, give me give

1522
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 4: me this guy. Just give me a camp and I'll

1523
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 4: show you how what I'm capable of.

1524
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 2: And I know you're a former bandam weight, but is

1525
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: it going to be featherweight from here on out?

1526
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: Hey?

1527
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 5: Why you got to talk to Mark about that? Mark

1528
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 5: was like, hey, thirty five. I was like, hey, coach,

1529
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 5: I was talking table about that. I was like, hey, coach, so, oh, well,

1530
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 5: what I know.

1531
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 4: You got like a lot of banding mos in the

1532
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: gym and I came be I was like one of

1533
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 4: them two and I was like, I was like, what

1534
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 4: what do you think.

1535
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 5: He's like, no, you're saying forty five. And I was like,

1536
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 5: you see yourself? Like He's like yeah. I was like,

1537
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 5: I don't, bro, I'm cut out. I looked pretty big.

1538
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 5: I'm just saying on the fight, I'm just saying.

1539
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you stay at forty five, and then

1540
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 2: maybe there is even a short notice opportunity that is

1541
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: big enough for you to step on. You know, in

1542
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 2: terms of getting those regional fights right. You had three

1543
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: wins in Colorado to get back to the UFC, and

1544
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 2: I'd imagine it could go both ways. I mean a

1545
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: lot of guys on the regional scene see tremendous upside.

1546
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: They beat a guy like you, that's their ticket to

1547
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: the UFC. But I was pretty impressed that you were

1548
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 2: able to get regional fights and obviously put all those

1549
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: guys away. But how hard is it for you to

1550
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 2: get fights to get your way back to the UFC,

1551
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 2: especially so close to where you train and live.

1552
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 5: Oh he was super hard man.

1553
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 4: It was the first guy that I fought outside the

1554
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 4: UFC beat my teammate Colin, So Collins has got cut

1555
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 4: from the UFC. He beat Colin, so he had all

1556
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 4: the hype behind them, right and he was the number

1557
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 4: one in Colorado all this stuff. So that was kind

1558
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 4: of like an easy no point to fight that guy.

1559
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1560
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 5: He was like, Okay, we'll fight that guy. He's gonna

1561
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 5: say yeah.

1562
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 4: We know you're gonna say yeah, because he was like, yeah,

1563
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 4: you beat me, like you said you guarantee the fight

1564
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 4: the UFP almost like we do think that, you know.

1565
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 4: And then the second guy was Jake Childers. Was nobody

1566
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 4: wanted to say yeah until the promoter.

1567
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 2: Was like, I think I can have a guy.

1568
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 5: I think I have a guy.

1569
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 4: And this guy fiught for the LFA belt, Like took

1570
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 4: this guy.

1571
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 5: Four rounds, four and a half rounds. So that was that.

1572
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,799
Speaker 4: And then the last time the last fight was Actually

1573
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 4: it was like, we're waiting for six months and then

1574
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 4: coach came up to me and he's like, hey, man,

1575
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,919
Speaker 4: you're not gonna like this, but there is a tournament

1576
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 4: going on as eight man tournament, so you get to

1577
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 4: fight three times in one night. That's the only time

1578
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get you fights. We can't find you fights.

1579
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 4: And I was like, are you kidding me?

1580
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: Man?

1581
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 5: What am I doing?

1582
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 4: Like, like I stopped my teammaking four and everything, and

1583
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 4: I was like, I like, I wanted to fight in

1584
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 4: the UFCS.

1585
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 5: It's like that's my whole thing.

1586
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 4: And he was like, but man, that was the best experience,

1587
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 4: one of the best experiences I had in that tournament

1588
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 4: to fight a guy that's kickboxing like eighty fights and

1589
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 4: seventy fights, and I was like, no, no, no, this

1590
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 4: is MMA.

1591
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 5: This is not kickboxing. You know. I met him in

1592
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 5: the finale and to really get to show my IQ

1593
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 5: and all that stuff, I was. I was very happy

1594
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 5: about that.

1595
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 4: But like you said, it's super super difficult. But I

1596
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:20,480
Speaker 4: feel like Colorado has the most hard like a competition

1597
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 4: in anywhere else. I really do believe that.

1598
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 5: I feel like, if you really want to get your

1599
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 5: career and everything hard going. I feel like Colorado is

1600
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 5: a great start.

1601
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 2: Yusef's a loll back. In the UFC Big submission went

1602
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 2: over Billy cordin Tello joining us here on the Anak

1603
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 2: and Florian podcast. So I believe I read somewhere that

1604
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: you stop your fast during Ramadan to take this fight,

1605
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: and do you now get back on the horse, Like,

1606
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: how exactly does it work here during the Ramadan period

1607
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 2: for you?

1608
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 5: So I'm fasting right now.

1609
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was like when they called me, I

1610
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 4: was like, I told Coach and I was like, call

1611
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 4: my family. I was like, hey, like this fight, I

1612
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 4: have to miss ten days of Ramadan or something like that.

1613
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 5: And then he was like the toughest decision, you know.

1614
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 5: I was like, I can't. I can't say no to

1615
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 5: an opportunity like this. And I don't even know.

1616
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 4: It was not long until Coach yesterday posted it. He

1617
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 4: was like five hundred and ninety days since I fight

1618
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 4: in the UFT. So I was like, I can't say

1619
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 4: no to this opportunity.

1620
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: Man.

1621
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 5: I feel like it was everything was on purpose.

1622
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 4: I got planning, you know, and I feel like I

1623
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 4: was like I couldn't say no to that, so I

1624
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,919
Speaker 4: stopped that faith. So I'm in phase two of Ramadan

1625
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 4: right now, and then when Ramadan is over, I'm still

1626
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 4: doing my ten days and my thirteen days after the

1627
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 4: Ramadan is over. And obviously I did a lot of

1628
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 4: like talking to my family, talking to the mosue, talking

1629
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 4: all that stuff. So there's a lot of things involved

1630
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 4: behind that.

1631
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,799
Speaker 2: Well, dude, we're absolutely thrilled for you. I have crossed

1632
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 2: your wake several times as a cornerman, of course for

1633
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: Factory X, coaching a lot of your teammates to wins

1634
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: over the years, so we were obviously very thrilled to

1635
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 2: not only see you get this opportunity, but man, did

1636
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 2: you close the show no bonus?

1637
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: Though?

1638
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: Man? I mean I thought, actually you went you went

1639
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: about getting the bonus the right way, like I certainly

1640
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,839
Speaker 2: I tell fighters, like when you ask for the bonus

1641
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: sometimes on a microphone it doesn't work out in your favor,

1642
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 2: but you put over your teammate David Oama. So I

1643
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: thought it was a good way to go about it.

1644
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 2: But uh, if my research is accurate, it says no

1645
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: bonus here.

1646
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was no bonus.

1647
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 5: I was like, man, are you kidding?

1648
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 1: Me.

1649
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 5: I was like, they told me in the cage.

1650
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 4: You're like, oh, you're the first one to said men him,

1651
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, come on, bro, I was definitely.

1652
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 5: The bonus right there. I was like, come on, are

1653
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 5: you kidding me? But I was like, it's okay, man,

1654
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 5: they want to they want bonus. I'll show them the

1655
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:30,879
Speaker 5: next fight, no problem.

1656
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: My man.

1657
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations on everything. Your striking just look fantastic from

1658
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 2: the outset. You get the submission, win, enjoy the fruits

1659
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 2: of your labor, brother, and uh hopefully I'm on the

1660
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 2: call for your next one. We appreciate the time today.

1661
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 5: So my man, thank you guys. I'ppreciate you guys, Thank

1662
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 5: you for having me.

1663
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 2: Thank you brother, have a good week. There is use

1664
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 2: so all with us here on the Anak and Florian podcast.

1665
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 2: What a story cornering all of his teammates over the years,

1666
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 2: and then you hear about some of the difficulties actually

1667
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,799
Speaker 2: getting a regional fight right, just putting three rain stripes

1668
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 2: on a Wikipedia page, that'll get you back to the

1669
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 2: big show. And dude, he looks fantastic. I mean, it's

1670
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 2: a real crossroads time now in the career for Billy Corntello,

1671
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 2: but usseus Law as a young man, he's accomplished a

1672
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 2: lot already.

1673
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 3: No question about it. Again, easily the best performance of

1674
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 3: his career doing that against a dangerous guy and Billy

1675
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 3: Q is going to be in your face, who's got

1676
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 3: a lot of different skills, a ton of experience. Was

1677
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 3: impressive as hell, dude, and not to mention it. And

1678
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 3: we saw this with Brandon Moreno. But it takes a

1679
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,879
Speaker 3: special character to, you know, get cut from the UFC

1680
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 3: and want it bad enough. If they're willing to go

1681
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 3: out there and grind through their career, through their training

1682
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 3: to get impressive wins to come back into the UFC.

1683
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 3: It says a lot about him and no question that

1684
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 3: he is looking phenomenal and then getting the call during Ramadan,

1685
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 3: yes wow. If you want to follow yusuf Zala on Instagram,

1686
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,799
Speaker 3: he is at the Moroccan Devil.

1687
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 2: All right, thank you all for indulging us. We're right

1688
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: back with you. On Wednesday, we'll have another full length

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01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: Let's be the soul to the bread.

1704
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 4: He's gone bread, he's gone bred.

1705
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 3: Slave, be oppressious to the method.

1706
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 4: You can't keep your hands on the box of the open.

1707
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 5: He's gone red. He's gone red.

1708
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,560
Speaker 3: He's gone red.