WEBVTT - "I AM A VAMPIRE"

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<v Speaker 1>do some calls. Hello, well, hi, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Him?

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<v Speaker 1>My name sonjo On from Houston, sanchowed. Nice to Nice

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you, man. What's what's up with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Not much? I was really curious where do you get

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<v Speaker 2>your suits?

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<v Speaker 1>Striklinged Santra It says here that you Okay, I need

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this and I wanted clarification on it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because these this is gonna be this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>two different kind of calls potentially. It's just here that

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<v Speaker 1>you knowingly had sex with someone with an STD. Does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean that if you had the STD and had

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<v Speaker 1>sex with them, or they had the SDD and had

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<v Speaker 1>sex with them.

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<v Speaker 2>They had the STD?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting? So they did they tell you that they had

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<v Speaker 1>an STD?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You know, we we'd met the night before. I

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<v Speaker 2>really didn't want to spend my Halloween alone and met

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<v Speaker 2>them on tender okay, and I mean their phone number,

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<v Speaker 2>and we ended up hitting it off and we were

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone for like three or four hours until

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<v Speaker 2>like three or four am, and I was like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is awesome. I'm really excited to meet this person. So

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<v Speaker 2>I decided to invite them over and like Carson Pumpkins

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<v Speaker 2>and watch them Halloween movies and show with them for Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>And on their driveover, they were like thirty minutes and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, oh, hey, by the way, I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>responsible to tell you that I am herpiest positive.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how did you react when she told you?

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<v Speaker 3>That?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I really try to keep an open mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought a lot that, like, you know, what if

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<v Speaker 2>I was in her position, like I would feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a sexual object of this guy denied me to spend

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<v Speaker 2>time with him, Like what what? Means that we have

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<v Speaker 2>this like sexual connotation to us spending time together. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I was I wanted to keep an open mind.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't want to make her feel diseased.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we continue to make LAMB she was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I think that that's that's that's that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>You you you like this girl, you wanted to spend

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<v Speaker 1>time with her. You weren't even having sex in the equation,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you guys continue to make plans and then

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<v Speaker 1>at what point did things start to become sexual? And

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<v Speaker 1>at that point did you what what made you overlook

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<v Speaker 1>the STD.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a little bit of research before, and it

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<v Speaker 2>said that, like the likelihood of contracting herpes if you're

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<v Speaker 2>wearing protection is low. So I I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was fine, And okay, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>seek out validation and like physical touch and pleasing other

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<v Speaker 2>people like too much, Like it's become a problem. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was willing to overlook it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've I have a couple questions. First, when you

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<v Speaker 1>say that you seek validation in physical touch and in

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<v Speaker 1>pleasing other people, in what way did that factor into

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<v Speaker 1>this situation?

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<v Speaker 2>I really didn't want to spend Halloween that alone. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've been kind of going through this past couple of

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<v Speaker 2>months since I gotten a really big breakup with someone

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<v Speaker 2>I've been with for over a year and a half,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of having multiple partners per week, and I recognize

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not catering to my mental health like at all,

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<v Speaker 2>and I keep cutting people off, and then I get

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<v Speaker 2>so unsatisfied with being alone and I struggle with FINGL.

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<v Speaker 1>So to you, you were craving physical intimacy to a

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<v Speaker 1>degree that you were willing to overlook potentially getting an STD.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I don't know how herpes works,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know what that likelihood is, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>uninformed about this particular situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, apparently it's fine with protection. You can just

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a small risk like of the common breaks. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll up take that risk for like a lifetime of

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<v Speaker 2>having this.

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<v Speaker 1>What were your chances when you looked at up, what

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<v Speaker 1>was the percentage.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually like really low, like like a ten five percent

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<v Speaker 2>chance ten percent of fact check that it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have it for? Do you have it for?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to facture that. We have no idea, but

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<v Speaker 1>do you have it forever if you get it. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I don't know that it would also be that

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have to feel forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, all this ship is besides the point. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're feeling lonely creating validation through physical touch? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>once you once you got that validation, that physical touch

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<v Speaker 1>that you were looking for, did it help the loneliness

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<v Speaker 1>at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean I guess temporarily, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it help it in any meaningful long term way?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think would solve that issue in a

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<v Speaker 1>long term way?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm gonna start going to therapy tomorrow. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, I really want to find the root of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like some childhood you know. What, do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to hear my elvis impression? I have a

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<v Speaker 2>really good elvis impression.

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<v Speaker 1>Is your elvis impression related to what you were about?

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<v Speaker 1>What you is your impression not in any way, shape

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<v Speaker 1>or form related to this?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. But I know I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I don't want to hear I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear it right now. And that's if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to talk about this anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm okay with talking about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean you don't have to. You sound like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to. That's why you brought up doing anl.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. I just

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<v Speaker 2>I want to keep talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you bring up are you looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>chat right now?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you bring up doing an Elvis impression?

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<v Speaker 2>A really good Elvis impression?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you bring up doing an Elvis impression?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I I think there is some roote contribution of my

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<v Speaker 2>love for Elvis and my desire to be Elvis and

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<v Speaker 2>this romantization of he got all the women that he wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess I want to be Elvis. Well, baby

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<v Speaker 2>left me. Well I found a new place to Dwell,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll let's tell it be a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate this, Sacha, please stop, please stop. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna you're gonna go to therapy tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go to therapy tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how many? That's good. It's good that you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking some kind of initiative to to deal with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name Sancha. Is there any anything? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>get tested for herpes afterwards?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't gotten Sancho. Did you have sex with anyone

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<v Speaker 1>before getting tested for herpes? Mhm, sa, go get tested

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<v Speaker 1>for herpes? Man sitting here on the Sancho, Sancho, you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here on the phone trying to do a geo,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do an Elvis impression for a gecko right now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you should go get tested.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really good impression.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I know a Sancho. Is there anything else you

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<v Speaker 1>want to say to the people of the computer before

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<v Speaker 1>we go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I have a question, GAK. If I started twitch

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<v Speaker 2>streaming in a fish costume and I labeled myself at

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<v Speaker 2>the well being fish, would you would you? Would you

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<v Speaker 2>assume me for stealing your image or maybe that would

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<v Speaker 2>encourage you to have me on your show?

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<v Speaker 1>No that I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>would do either of those two things. I would probably,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably wouldn't do anything in response to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, you don't what would be the first step in

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<v Speaker 2>becoming the well.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much for calling, Sancho. I'll talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you soon. It actually wasn't that bad

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<v Speaker 1>of an Elvis impression. I don't really know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've listened to hound Dog and Viva Las Vegas, but

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in his like I haven't like listened to

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<v Speaker 1>any interviews with him. I haven't seen that movie, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly what he says. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a great frame of reference, but for the frame of

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<v Speaker 1>reference I do have it it wasn't that bad. Is

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<v Speaker 1>spontaneously doing elvis impressions just maybe a symptom of herpes.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's fact check that too, while we're fat we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure it's true. There's no basis in it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just saying while we fact check things, let's

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<v Speaker 1>fact check that as well. Hello, how's it going, Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been on the line. You've been on hold

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<v Speaker 1>for three hours?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Just about What have.

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<v Speaker 1>You been doing while you've been on hold for three hours?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly? Funny enough, while I've been listening to you and

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<v Speaker 3>playing this game called Vampire Survivors, I just got really

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<v Speaker 3>into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Says here that you wanted to call in because you're

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<v Speaker 1>a vampire rapper and you wanted to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's why it was funny. I was playing

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<v Speaker 3>that game.

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<v Speaker 1>How does one become a vampire rapper?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first I became a vampire and then the rapper

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<v Speaker 3>thing just kind of followed that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was wondering which one was first, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>a vampire rap Well, actually, I'm thinking here, it would

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<v Speaker 1>make kind of more sense for you to be have

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<v Speaker 1>become a rapper a rapper first, and then become a

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<v Speaker 1>vampire because you're a rap. You're a vampire rapper, not

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<v Speaker 1>a rapper vampire. The second thing is like the main thing,

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<v Speaker 1>right like you are you are a rapper, and vampire

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<v Speaker 1>is the type of rapper you are, whereas if you

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<v Speaker 1>were by trade a vampire, but you are a rapping

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I'm saying right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? That does make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, actually the truth is none of this makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna roll with it anyway. What is a

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<v Speaker 1>vampire around?

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<v Speaker 3>I am a rapper. I started making music in like

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seventeen, and I mostly rapped about vampire shenanigans.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you get into like, okay, so walk me

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<v Speaker 1>through this. You are a vampire or you just fuck

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<v Speaker 1>with vampires?

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<v Speaker 3>I fuck with vampires heavily. If I could be a vampire,

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<v Speaker 3>I would be. And as far as it goes, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, I'm just gonna say, I am a vampire.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm thinking back. I don't know why I asked

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<v Speaker 1>you if you're a vampire, because vampires aren't real. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if maybe you like, I mean, on

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<v Speaker 1>who am I fuck me? Who am I to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's real and who's not? A You say you are

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<v Speaker 1>something I'm not gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, people give names to monsters. Monsters can be

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of things throughout history. Vampires have always been

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<v Speaker 3>in uh in history, throughout every culture, you know some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of vampire or another. So I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 3>a staple throughout history and society.

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<v Speaker 1>Why a vampire? You said that if you could be one,

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<v Speaker 1>you would be one. I don't think I would say

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<v Speaker 1>the same. But why would you choose to be a

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<v Speaker 1>vampire as opposed to a human?

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't you want to live forever?

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<v Speaker 4>Young?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to fucking lift forever. This's horrible. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a very vampire.

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<v Speaker 3>Last well, it hasn't. It hasn't been the best for

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<v Speaker 3>me lately, but at the same time, I still i'd

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<v Speaker 3>kick it a little bit longer.

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<v Speaker 1>See this is even more interesting to me. You your life,

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<v Speaker 1>according to you, has it even been good? And yet

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<v Speaker 1>you want to live it forever.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've never really been like a religious person, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not convinced there's something after death. And I do

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy life, I always have, even when it gets shitty,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't want to let it go. So maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a death complex thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like reverse suicidal.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, maybe you could say that. When I was younger,

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<v Speaker 3>I used to be more on the opposite of that,

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<v Speaker 3>very suicidal. And maybe I'm trying to hold on to

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<v Speaker 3>life or trying to get more out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, what do you, okay, tell me this

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<v Speaker 1>in the in living forever? What what could you do

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't just do right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, just the biggest thing is I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>wasting time when I'm just spending time doing stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>I want to do, like like playing video games or

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<v Speaker 3>listening to the Gecko Talk. Lately, I've been like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>listening to podcasts when I do the dishes, something that

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<v Speaker 3>I can I feel like I'm doing something productive while

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<v Speaker 3>I'm listening to stuff. I wish I had all the

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<v Speaker 3>time in the world that I could just not worry

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<v Speaker 3>about about life slipping away.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, this is why I'm asking, so life is

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<v Speaker 1>slipping away. On a second, secondly, basis, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do with it? What I mean, life's only

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<v Speaker 1>valuable because you decide to wake up and get out

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<v Speaker 1>of bed and do anything, or you know, at least

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<v Speaker 1>look at stuff, at least feel a lie like what

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<v Speaker 1>do you what do you intend to do with this life?

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<v Speaker 1>Or desire to do? I have a few goal just

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<v Speaker 1>do right now. Please let me hear the goals.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm working on him right now. But one, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to be happy, which I feel like I am a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of days, but not every day. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that I wake up happy. And I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to get out of bed. And I was actually

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<v Speaker 3>listening to your podcast with Baby No Money the other

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<v Speaker 3>day and he said something that when people ask him

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<v Speaker 3>what it's like to do what he does, he tells

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<v Speaker 3>him that he can't wait to get out of bed

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<v Speaker 3>every day. And I used to be like that, but

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<v Speaker 3>lately I've been wanting to sleep an extra hour as

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<v Speaker 3>long as I can before, I like get up to

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<v Speaker 3>go to work, and I missed wanting to like wake

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<v Speaker 3>up to take like the day and fucking like seize it.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think changed between now and when you

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<v Speaker 1>used to wake up wanting to seize the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, a lot, a lot has changed. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what it is. I'm a father, I am am

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<v Speaker 3>a young father. I had my daughter when I was

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen and I'm twenty four now, so she's seven years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Having to grow up to be responsible for that, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a whole other, whole other, you know, beast on its own.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, like my daughter is one

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<v Speaker 3>of the reasons that I remembered why I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>get out of bed in the morning. But I've been

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<v Speaker 3>working a lot more lately. I switched my job. That

0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.240
<v Speaker 3>was part of like what I put in the call notes,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really switch my job. I kind of lost

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<v Speaker 3>my job at the place I was working at, and

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<v Speaker 3>I really loved my job. And it's a lot different

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<v Speaker 3>working like for a corporate business versus working for someone

0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:35.040
<v Speaker 3>that you like personally know, you feel more expendable. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I mean, this is you're a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>than It's funny because I came into this thinking that

0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.639
<v Speaker 1>I was going to learn about vampires and rappers, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm learning more about Josh.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm glad to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>So so tell me these goals that you have you

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<v Speaker 1>want to wake up? Have you want to wake up happen? Okay, Yeah,

0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:09.280
<v Speaker 1>that's a goal. That's that's thesis. That's a good thesis.

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<v Speaker 1>When's the last time you woke up happy?

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<v Speaker 3>Like probably? Well, I mean this morning, I didn't wake

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<v Speaker 3>up sad, but I still slept in for for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I So, I work at Spirit Halloween now and we just,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you know what that is. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like a halloween store. Yeah yeah, So we're like seasonal.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the end of the season, we have to

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<v Speaker 3>like pack up all the walls and put them in

0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:47.840
<v Speaker 3>trucks and shit like that, and they're like really heavy walls.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've been fucking I closed down like three different

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<v Speaker 3>stores this year, so I'm I'm been like tired, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is my first like week off.

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<v Speaker 5>In a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just kind of slept in this morning a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit and that was good. But I remember last

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<v Speaker 3>week specifically, I did wake up and just like wanted

0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.480
<v Speaker 3>to get the day going and got out of bed,

0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:15.200
<v Speaker 3>like had some coffee, and that was refreshing.

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<v Speaker 1>When you did your interview for Spirit Halloween, did you

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<v Speaker 1>mention the wrapping vampire stuff, because I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>would have been the thing that sealed the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>I started rapping as a vampire like the first year

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<v Speaker 3>after I started to work at Spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, ah, the chicken came before.

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<v Speaker 6>The egg, yeah, in that case. But then that that

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<v Speaker 6>led into like my next job. The thing that I

0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.679
<v Speaker 6>was that I just kind of lost was my first

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:51.919
<v Speaker 6>boss at Spirit Halloween. She like stopped being working at

0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.480
<v Speaker 6>Spirit that year and went to go open this oddity

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<v Speaker 6>shop and she like called her team from Spirit and

0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:01.200
<v Speaker 6>was like, who wants to help me set this up?

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<v Speaker 6>And I like showed up to help paint the walls

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<v Speaker 6>and everything and like help get those.

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<v Speaker 1>Already selling, like you were working selling teeth and skulls

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<v Speaker 1>and shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's what it turned into. I like got my

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<v Speaker 3>foot in the door there, and then she really liked

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:21.199
<v Speaker 3>me and my boss and I just like stuck around

0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:26.200
<v Speaker 3>and started working there, and yeah, that turned into human

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<v Speaker 3>skeletons like we had a face in a jar for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time. We called her miss Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love like that. You like the hierarchy

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<v Speaker 1>is that you go if you get, If you get

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<v Speaker 1>really good at selling fake faces and fake skeletons and shit,

0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>you graduate just getting to sell real ones.

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<v Speaker 3>I always thought that was the irony of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>And I went from selling like fake skeletons, that's selling.

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<v Speaker 2>You want.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you recently got like the shop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sadly, I mean like it's a it's a really

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<v Speaker 3>niche subject to open a shop on and like our

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 3>location in uh, Pennsylvania isn't the you know, the most popping,

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:29.080
<v Speaker 3>so just like the hours weren't really there, and it's

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 3>it's really sad. I mean, I've absolutely loved it there,

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 3>and I know my boss would keep me if she could,

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.879
<v Speaker 3>but she just can't really afford it. So that's a

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 3>whole other kind of sad thing. But honestly, what I

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 3>like earned, what I learned working there is so much more.

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 3>I really am going to take this stuff with me

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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of my life. And honestly, I met

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:57.199
<v Speaker 3>the person that got me in the studio for the

0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 3>first time at working at the oudity shop. It was

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.919
<v Speaker 3>my boss's cousin came in and he was like a

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 3>metalhead and is like in a band and is a

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 3>professional musician and shit. And I told him I was

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 3>a rapper and showed him some of my stuff and

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 3>he was like, I got to get you in the studio.

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.200
<v Speaker 3>So that's how I like went from recording in my

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 3>bedroom to recording in like a real studio. I had

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 3>my first like live show through people I met there.

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<v Speaker 3>So like everything's kind of been progressing since, like I

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<v Speaker 3>first started my first job at Spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Josh, what are you going to do now that

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you have been let go from the autist shop? What

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 1>is your next step?

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<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of the thing I called about someone

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 3>at uh so Spirit is owned by Spencer's, and someone

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 3>at Spencer's wanted me to go be like an assistant

0:24:54.520 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 3>manager at Spencer's and I and like, that's I know

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:05.400
<v Speaker 3>what I'm falling back on. I already like them.

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Close to in in in genre place. There are some there.

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<v Speaker 3>The main thing that I'm kind of like iffy about

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 3>is I'm I've been like the only job I ever

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 3>really worked with retail. I worked retail for like the

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 3>past five years. It was definitely different when I didn't

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 3>work for such like a corporate thing and it was

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 3>more like a you know, like a brick and mortar place.

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not sure if I want to keep doing retail,

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 3>what would you like to do? I want to move

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 3>somewhere a little bit warmer, maybe like somewhere by a

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 3>beach or that's like an hour drive from a beach,

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 3>And I want to keep focusing on music. It like,

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:05.679
<v Speaker 3>I really love making music and music videos. And I

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 3>remember I was happiest when I was just making music

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 3>videos and I would try to make one a month

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 3>and make sure I got it out by like the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the month, and it kept me on like

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 3>a really good schedule, and like I had this work

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 3>ethic that like I felt like I was working for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So so let's talk about let's talk about this. Let's

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>talk about this real quick. You know, usually my my

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>personal feelings on this stuff. It it it gets a

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.439
<v Speaker 1>little wonky when you have a kid, because if you

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a kid, I'd be like, go because if

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you didn't have a kid, you could just go be

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>homeless on a beach and pick up like a food

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.959
<v Speaker 1>that washes in into the sand and then make your

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>music and you'd be fucking fine. You know you can

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 1>do that. That's a beautiful I think about that a lot,

0:26:56.680 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's a beautiful. But you have a child and

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>so you do have a degree of responsibility here to

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, take care of the child. So what how

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>how has how has it been in fulfilling that responsibility.

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing bad. I I live with my girlfriend

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:31.880
<v Speaker 3>and my daughter in her own apartment. It's I'm able

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 3>to afford it. But I'm only able really to afford

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 3>it because we both work jobs. So that's definitely something

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 3>that you know, I need to That's kind of why

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 3>I already signed up for the Spencers, because you know,

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 3>I like, I need a paycheck still that's more than

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 3>just what I'm getting from music right now.

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, But uh.

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 3>So, you know, ideally I'd like to live a life

0:27:56.040 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 3>where I just don't have to work uh retail position anymore,

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 3>or if I did, it wouldn't be like every day

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 3>of the week and be like part time and then

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 3>also focus on like art stuff.

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>So Josh, I mean, I'll tell you this, I do believe.

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have an extra cog in the machine

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 1>here and the fact that you have a daughter. But

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I do believe that you can find a balance between

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>these three pillars of your life. The job that you

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 1>need to work to make money, the child that you

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>need to support and spend time with, and the musical

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>career that you need to pursue.

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Happy.

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe if you find harmony between those three

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>things that you will be happy?

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? I think that's that's.

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>My main Now, now, all right, now, let me throw

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you this one. Do you believe that in the mere

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>pursuit of harmony between those three things you can be happy?

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Because if you're not happy on the journey, you ain't

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you ain't gonna be happy with the destination.

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can at least I can at least definitely

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 3>have some good days in between. And that's I mean,

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 3>that's what I'm working on, is is waking up happier

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 3>on the pursuit good as well as the destination.

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, good, And it's never gonna be perfect. It's

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>never gonna be perfect. I'm trying on a bunch of

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>shit myself, and you know, it's it's never perfect. You know,

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you got to ride the roller coaster and you

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>might just be wired in some fucking way where, like

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, Maybe this is a maybe

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>this's a dangerous thing to say, but you might be

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>wired and some way where your depression is inevitable, but

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>also your happiness is inevitable and you just have to

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>take the ying and yang of life for whatever way

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>it is. You know what I'm saying.

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 3>I do get exactly what you're saying, and that that

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 3>makes a lot of sense. You say you're not a

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 3>real therapist, but some stuff gets through.

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>How do I By the way, before we go, do

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a connected spirit Halloween that I can start

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>doing my Gecko costumes at so I can finally make

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>some money off of this shit.

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll text my district manager for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, beautiful Josh, is there anything else you want to

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>say to the people that computer it before you go?

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 3>I found you on TikTok a couple of months ago.

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 3>I've been watching the YouTube videos listening to the podcast.

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 3>I really like yourself. This is my first time actually

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 3>calling in, so I'm glad I got through. But uh,

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 3>check me out on Spotify or check out my YouTube videos.

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>You can all right, not so fast? So fast, not

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>so fast, not so fast? You rap for us right now?

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear a rap?

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>What's okay?

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you free? Hold on? Hold on?

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>What do you want to style?

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Or do you do you freestyle? Or do you just

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>do songs?

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 3>I used the freestyle. I just write my stuff lately, though.

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Would you freestyle right now? Or is that too much?

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, uh no, you're gonna have to check me out.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Spin us some bars?

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I just uh yeah, okay, do you want to hear

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 3>my I have a song that has like five hundred

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 3>thousand plays? Do you want to hear that one?

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll hear like, let's just hear, let's hear like the

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>first verse of it.

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 3>All right, I'm just gonna do something else. My latest,

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 3>my latest vampire bars were something like, you keep squirming,

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 3>it's no wonder when my teeth hurting. I keep slipping,

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.719
<v Speaker 3>so there's nothing left to bleed, bringia, nothing left to see,

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 3>and there's nothing left to me either. I'm peace certain

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 3>that I think it's time to leave with your packing

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 3>up your things, and it's time the best in peace

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>with you. But that was the end of the song.

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>That was That was pretty spooky.

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 3>You made me too.

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Nervous vampires the number four higher?

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes, what, thank you for remembering?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for calling Josh, love you get take care brother. Hello? Hello, Hi?

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Who is this car? Carson? It says here that you

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>are with Tiffany, your girlfriend.

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>That's correct, Yes, sir.

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Tiffany there?

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 4>Hi?

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>How are you Tiffany?

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 7>I'm all right? How are you?

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm good? Can I can I bring up what it

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>says that you guys wanted to talk about? Where do

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys want to tell me?

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 7>Yes, sir, you can bring it.

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Up, all right. It says here that you want to

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>discuss you guys reconciling after Tiffany cheated on Carson.

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, I got a little drunk, did some stuff

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 4>I shouldn't have done, and cheated on him.

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, sadly.

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh how do you How do you feel about that? Carson?

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm kind of pissed, and uh, you know.

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 3>She wasn't.

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 5>I kind of want to like break up, but we

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:18.760
<v Speaker 5>have a lease together and you know, responsibilities and bills

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 5>and ship to pay. So uh, I don't know. I

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 5>don't know how to really because I just found out today.

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:27.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to figure it out myself.

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>You just found this out today?

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.240
<v Speaker 8>Yes, yes, today.

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 5>Came up to me and was like, uh, I got

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 5>something to tell you that that happened last night?

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so.

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:50.800
<v Speaker 1>So so definitely this happened last night, Yes, sir, it did. Okay.

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:51.840
<v Speaker 1>How long you guys been together?

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<v Speaker 3>For?

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 5>Three years?

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 3>So long?

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, Tiffany, what what kind of inspired you

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to do what you did?

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 7>I guess I just.

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Get attracted to other people at times when I've been

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 4>drinking and doing some stuff I shouldn't have been doing,

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 4>and sadly a little bit of some powder which's found

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 4>in our lifle bars around here.

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>You said power. What is it about power that you said?

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 2>No powder? Powder?

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>She's powder? Okay, okay, okay, yes, yes, that's.

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You think I should get to sleep with another girl? Right,

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 5>That's that makes it even?

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 5>Then we go about our day.

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Is that is that something that you guys have been discussing?

0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:57.959
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 5>No, no, I just that just came off the top

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 5>of my head yourself, Yeah, that did just come out the.

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 7>Doping his head.

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean, I'm not I don't I don't have

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>any What what do you think about that, Tiffany.

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 7>Well, personally, I do not think that to rights or

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 7>too wrong to make it right.

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>What's the same you do too wrong s don't make

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>it right?

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 7>Yes, I don't really agree with it, but well that

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.240
<v Speaker 7>would make him feel better and stay with.

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Me than.

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 3>H.

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>What about money, Tiffany? What about money?

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm not kidding, Tiffany. No, I'm just kidding.

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>No, you don't Okay, okay, okay, everyone, everyone, everyone, Everyone

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:02.760
<v Speaker 1>calmed down. Everyone calmed down, Everyone calm down for a second. Okay, Carson,

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>tell me, honestly, tell me honestly, what if if anything?

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>The answer could be nothing, What if anything do you

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:21.879
<v Speaker 1>truly feel Tiffany could do to get back into your

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:23.399
<v Speaker 1>good graces?

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 5>Uh? I guess give me the mock code to her

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 5>phone and just promise it won't happen again for being honest, Yeah.

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>You want the lock code to her phone?

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Maybe not that.

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 5>Okay, we can just look past it and move on. Yeah,

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 5>that's probably the best idea.

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 1>You want to move You want to look past it

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and move on.

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but if it happens again, you know, then she's out.

0:37:54.840 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Right, Tiffany. Can I ask you a question, sir, Tiffany,

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>is this the first time this has happened in the

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>three year relationship?

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 4>Yes it is, Okay, I feel terrible about it.

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>And you guys share a lease together, Yes we did.

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>How long has that been a thing?

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:33.280
<v Speaker 5>Oh? Not eight months?

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me ask you something. I'm gonna ask both

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>of you guys this question. By the way, you guys

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>aren't fucking with me right now, are you?

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Like you would tell like you? You would tell me

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the truth if you guys.

0:38:56.239 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 5>Were no, I, well, you are a real counselor. I

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 5>would go to like I'm not, you know, marriage counselor

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 5>or some shit if we had money.

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, wait, so you would go to a

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>real marriage counselor if it was if you were fucking

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>with me?

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 5>No, wait, I don't understand. No, if I had money, Yeah,

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 5>if I had money, I would be going. I would

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 5>go to like a marriage counselor.

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.760
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm ask both of you guys the same question. Uh, Carson,

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:31.399
<v Speaker 1>tell me in these past three years and currently, what

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:35.839
<v Speaker 1>kinds of thing? What this relationship as a whole, Has

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it been a positive force in your life? And if so,

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 1>in what way has it been a positive force in

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>your life.

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 5>You asked, that's the Carson, right, Yeah, I'm probably. I

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 5>mean it's been positive. Yeah, uh, it's been positive in

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 5>my life. I think in our life together, I should say, yeah,

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, we've got our own plate. Uh, got a

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 5>little dog, no kids, luckily, but you know that's not

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 5>what she wants, so who knows about that? But yeah, no, no,

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 5>I think overall has been very positive.

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, Tiffany, what how do you feel? Do

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you do you believe that the relationship has been a

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>positive force in your life?

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely? He has made me grow as a person, and

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 7>you need become a better person. I feel very guilty

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 7>from what I did.

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 5>Mhm, why would you be chuckling? And oh that's fucked.

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 5>So she don't here to understand the gravity of it.

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't.

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 7>Mh, Well what happens whenever you get a little bit

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 7>too drunk. But yeah, I will forever feel guilty and

0:40:56.040 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 7>just continue to ask for forgiveness from a good dear lord.

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the forgiveness is in the hands

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>of the Lord here, but.

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I forgive you though that it's all good.

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 5>I'll forgive you.

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Okay. Cool. I guess we settled that.

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 5>Yes, thank you very much. You know, I don't think

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 5>none of my friend's going to help me more than

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 5>you could have.

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 1>So beautiful. So anything you guys want to say to

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the people of the computer before we go.

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.800
<v Speaker 5>On the computer, We love you computer people.

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 7>We love every one of you, and thank you for

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 7>your help.

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, guys.

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Have a good night.

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting into divorce, all right.

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>That was totally fake, right, that was a fake, stupid

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>waste of time. You know, it's fight normally, I don't

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>care about the fake calls, but that was that was

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty annoying. I don't know, I don't know. I don't

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.359
<v Speaker 1>know that was really I don't I guess. I guess

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 1>hopefully it was fake. Hopefully it was fake. But then again, actually,

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold on, hold on. I do have an

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>important detail to reveal about that call that might change

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>everyone's perspective on it. Both of them are from Florida,

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:41.919
<v Speaker 1>so maybe it was real.

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 3>Hello is this the get.

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Who is this?

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Hello?

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Hi? This is Chase.

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing, Chase?

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm right, how are you Chase?

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a hear that you're a triplet and you believe

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>that your two brothers do not respect you.

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 3>That's true.

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Why do you feel like they don't respect you?

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 3>I've kind of always felt like that, uh, sort of

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 3>like they were. Yeah, it's hard to I feel like

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 3>it always kind of comes off like I'm like, like,

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 3>there's it's just just you know, it's just how brothers are.

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 3>But I've always felt like they were. They were sort

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 3>of like my brother my my my bullies growing.

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Up and.

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 3>When we got older or not not so much like

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 3>them directly, but more so like their friends. And they

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 3>sort of encouraged it. And anytime I've brought that up, uh,

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 3>they kind of just ignore it and and kind of

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 3>just in general, I just think that they don't respect me,

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:14.919
<v Speaker 3>you know, they just Yeah.

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Have they always not respected you throughout your life?

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, it's kind of how I feel. Yeah.

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:25.919
<v Speaker 1>So do they live how? Like often do you really

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>even see them?

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:33.879
<v Speaker 3>So I'm twenty eight, so I haven't. No, I don't.

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 3>They live in different states now. I don't see them

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 3>that often. It's mostly just for holidays. But like, you know, yeah,

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 3>I definitely like I feel like I don't really want

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 3>a relationship with them, and in many ways, I don't

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 3>really like I don't talk to them at all really,

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 3>but I do see them at the holidays. It's kind

0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 3>of why I'm calling, is you know, I have to

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 3>see them coming up soon for Thanksgiving. Yeah, I just

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I feel like oftentimes I feel like it should be

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 3>easy to just ignore them and kind of, you know,

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 3>do my own thing. But then if they you know,

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 3>they'll if one of them just kind of tries to

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 3>have even just a casual conversation, like it can it

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 3>can turn into a fight. It's like a really stupid fight.

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 3>And even then, like I just don't really want to

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 3>talk to them in general. But then I kind of

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:33.280
<v Speaker 3>come off like like the asshole because I'm like brushing

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 3>them off or ignoring them or whatever. And I feel

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 3>like I don't really know the right way to handle it.

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, do you respect them?

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 3>That's a good question. I guess probably not, because I

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 3>feel like they bullied me, you know, and like they

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 3>never any like I said, like anytime, like I've brought

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 3>that that up, like they've just kind of brushed that off,

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 3>like they don't they don't even really acknowledge that that like, yeah,

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 3>that like this is the way I feel like they

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 3>just don't really care. So I guess, yeah, I guess

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 3>I certainly. I mean I can't I can't really respect that,

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So is this an issue for you at

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>all outside of just the holidays? Like, is this some

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of macro thing that just bothers you or is

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:41.240
<v Speaker 1>it mainly an issue regarding the holidays?

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 3>I think that it's it's most Uh, I guess I

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:52.399
<v Speaker 3>have to deal with it most like like mostly yeah,

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 3>like like during the holidays, and yeah, just like any

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 3>other time that I have to like kind of you know,

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 3>be around them, around like family with them.

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>So, you know, the relationships are tough because you have

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>no control over them. You only have, well you have.

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say you don't have no control. You

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.320
<v Speaker 1>have the fifty percent of control you have, your half

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:21.839
<v Speaker 1>you have you There's like, there's no point in us

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:25.919
<v Speaker 1>talking about what you feel as though your brothers may

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 1>owe you, or how we feel like they should be,

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>or how we wish they would be, or any of

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 1>that shit. It's not you know, especially now considering that

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:43.320
<v Speaker 1>you've told me that you've even expressed to them your issues,

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>because that's part of what's in your control, right, is

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to express the issues you have, and you've done that

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and they haven't been receptive.

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've tried.

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 1>So Okay, now I feel like we're looking at all right,

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>what are our options? What can we do on our

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>end to achieve the objective? Which now maybe well, actually

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't want to assume anything. What

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 1>is the objective? Is the objective to attempt to build

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>a better relationship with them? Or is the objective to

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>get through the damn holidays without fighting? How would you

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 1>describe the objective?

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 3>I think that I'm not interested in a in yeah,

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 3>building any kind of relationship with them, at least at

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 3>this point. So yeah, probably probably the latter, probably, Yeah,

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 3>just kind of like getting through the holidays without fighting

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 3>with them, all.

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, So the objective is to get through the holidays

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>without fighting them. You say that sometimes you try to

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 1>talk to them and it ends up in a fight.

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Is that correct? In those situations where you try to

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 1>talk to where you where you talk to them and

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 1>it ends up in a fight. What degree of that

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 1>ending up in a fight can you take responsibility for? Like,

0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>if they make a comment to you that's unsavory, do

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you fight back with a comment of your own.

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think. I think, if I'm really being fair,

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 3>probably probably fifty.

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So, like if we took our own ego out

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 1>of it, and we were just like I just want

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 1>to pick the path that leads to the path of

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 1>least resistance, we'll call it what path leads to the

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>least amount of conflict. Even if that path involves me

0:49:56.880 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 1>sitting there and quote taking it when my brother says

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 1>something annoying to me about my life, I will withstand

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that for the sake of the greater good, the sake

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of my greater objective, which is to not engage in conflict,

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and actually to not sit there and take it. To

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 1>throw an insult back, would even if it feels good

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:29.320
<v Speaker 1>in the moment, be a detriment to my own goals,

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and so it's not the best thing for me to do.

0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>So think about that next time you are in a

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 1>casual conversation and just be mindful of like, this is

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 1>my personal objective is to get through this without any conflict.

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 1>What is the best way to do that, not what

0:50:56.760 --> 0:51:05.239
<v Speaker 1>is emotionally fueling my choices right now, Because if you're

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>based off of what's emotionally fueling your choices right now,

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna make choices that are going to result in conflict.

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:20.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it does.

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:23.319
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about that?

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:32.239
<v Speaker 3>I think you're right. I think that is. I think

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely gonna try to to to take that path

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 3>to to think about that throughout the next couple of

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 3>weeks the rest of the year living. You know, in general,

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 3>I think so oftentimes, like you said, I think, uh uh,

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, separating taking your ego away from it. I

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 3>think in many ways, I think my ego does kind

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:09.399
<v Speaker 3>of overtake me, and I think I just can't help

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:11.799
<v Speaker 3>myself but to kind of say something. And I think

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 3>that like not saying something is going to let them win.

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me give you a different I have to

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.839
<v Speaker 1>bring up a different perspective on that, this idea of

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 1>letting them win. What if we phrased it like this,

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 1>your you, your is tell me truly tell me honestly

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:42.879
<v Speaker 1>is your objective honestly to get through this without any conflict. Look,

0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>if you want to stick it to them and that's

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:46.880
<v Speaker 1>your objective, you can tell me, like, what really is

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:49.280
<v Speaker 1>in your heart to want to do over the holidays?

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:52.280
<v Speaker 1>What do you genuinely desire you? Do you genuinely desire peace?

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.880
<v Speaker 3>I think I think at one point in my life

0:52:57.960 --> 0:52:59.759
<v Speaker 3>I would have told you, yeah, I want to stick

0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 3>it to At this point, no, I just I'm done.

0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 3>I've you know, I've I've tried sticking it to them.

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 3>I've tried, I've tried everything. I've tried ignoring them, and

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 3>I just I don't know anymore. I don't know what

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:17.399
<v Speaker 3>to do anymore. I just want to get through it

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 3>without causing any problems.

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 1>All Right, You're twenty eight years old. You've tried as

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:26.919
<v Speaker 1>hard as you can to make up with them, You've

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 1>stuck it to them. You're tired now. You love your

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 1>mom and your rest of your family. That's why you

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 1>show up for Thanksgiving? Right, Yeah? And so your objective,

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm asking this is a question, your objective is peace? Truly?

0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you win if there is peace, that's your

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:56.320
<v Speaker 1>win condition.

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:03.360
<v Speaker 3>I guess, I mean, I guess I'm kind of regretting

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 3>that the winning freak, because I don't even really look

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:09.839
<v Speaker 3>at it as like I'm winning as much as just.

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, we can, we can.

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>We can stay in that. We can. We here's the

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:19.120
<v Speaker 1>thing we can stay in that idea, you win if

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 1>there's peace.

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 3>M So, because I just I just don't want to

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 3>like I'm not trying to like it's not like I'm

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 3>like I'm like trying to like beat them, you know

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:31.560
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. Like, it's just like you're not trying.

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:34.239
<v Speaker 1>You're not trying, You're not trying to be This is

0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:37.360
<v Speaker 1>not a this is not a win. This is not

0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 1>a win over any of them. You were not going

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 1>after peace to stick it to them. You were going

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 1>after peace as a win for your own corrector is

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:51.880
<v Speaker 1>your own victory. And so when you're engaged, and so

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking to your brother and he says some

0:54:57.600 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 1>ship that pisces you off, and you want and to

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 1>hurl something back at him because you don't want to

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 1>let him win. What you're actually doing is you don't

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 1>let him win when you take the ultimate step back

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and you go, let me throw my ego out of it,

0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:21.440
<v Speaker 1>let me throw the idea of letting anyone win out

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:26.000
<v Speaker 1>of it. And I just go, I have my own

0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:30.000
<v Speaker 1>personal objective for nobody else but me of having peace

0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:36.439
<v Speaker 1>this weekend because I love my family and I'm going

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to take the steps and the actions required to achieve

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 1>that objective, because that's what winning looks like for me.

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:49.040
<v Speaker 1>And so in that moment, you choose to let it

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 1>slide because if this person is this is like some

0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I forget, some stoic philosopher said some shit about letting

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:13.680
<v Speaker 1>people win is actually when you allow them to manipulate

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you emotionally. And so if you allow your brother to

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:22.560
<v Speaker 1>make you upset to the point where it influences your

0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:26.399
<v Speaker 1>actions and you say something back, that is letting him win.

0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:32.279
<v Speaker 1>When you hold true to your ultimate objective, which is

0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to keep the peace. That is when you win. And

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that's not a game you're playing with anyone else but yourself.

0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, that does. I like that, Thank you.

0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Are they bigger than you? Can? They can they over

0:56:58.080 --> 0:56:59.360
<v Speaker 1>overpower you physically?

0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 3>No? I mean like like one, It's like that's not

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:07.560
<v Speaker 3>really like it's not it's never really been like that,

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 3>you know it has It's never really been like a

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:15.239
<v Speaker 3>physical like they they beat me up?

0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you have you seen their penises?

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:23.640
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:26.080
<v Speaker 1>No, what do you mean?

0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:26.200
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:26.960
<v Speaker 1>They're brothers?

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:29.400
<v Speaker 3>You I mean, I guess probably when I was very young,

0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm a triplet yeah, so like we re took.

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you've seen you've seen that, You've seen their penises.

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, do.

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 1>You have a do you have a bigger penis than

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>they do?

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay, all right, So if all the stoic philosophy

0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:54.439
<v Speaker 1>crap doesn't work for you, then you know there's that too.

0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 3>That's true. It's a good point. Thanks Kick, Thanks for

0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 3>calling Chase, Thank you Gick.

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it's the end of the episode and I

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:07.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to you about something real quick. It's

0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 1>not an ad. Well, I guess it's kind of an ad,

0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:13.760
<v Speaker 1>but just hear me out. Sometimes I put excerpts at

0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the end of the podcast from my street interviews that

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I've done on my YouTube channel, And today I just

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:21.880
<v Speaker 1>uploaded a video on my channel that is probably my

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 1>favorite thing I've ever made. It's a really fun, really weird,

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 1>really wild vlog that I filmed back in June from

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a trip I took to Guatemala completely alone. I went

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 1>there to wander around the streets by myself in full

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 1>gecko attire, just to see what would happen, see who

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I could talk to, and I got into a lot

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of weird situations. I interviewed the workers of a Guatemalan McDonald's.

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:55.160
<v Speaker 1>A guy invited me into his house to eat bread

0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 1>made out of shit. I talked to an expat that

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>was running from the FBI, and all of this was

0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:07.160
<v Speaker 1>very spontaneous and not planned and just happened as a

0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 1>result of me putting myself out there and walking around

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:15.320
<v Speaker 1>as a gecko just to see what would happen. So

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna play a clip from it real quick, and

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<v Speaker 1>if this video sounds interesting to you, you can watch

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<v Speaker 1>the full thing on my YouTube channel YouTube dot com

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<v Speaker 1>slash Lyle forever. The title of the video is going

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<v Speaker 1>to a foreign country alone as a gecko. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a clip. So is running from the FBI easier

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<v Speaker 1>than you expected it to be?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, now they have no jurisdiction And I changed my name,

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<v Speaker 8>I changed like my identity.

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<v Speaker 1>So you are caught with five kilograms of cocaine?

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<v Speaker 8>No, no, no, they com me with way more. But I

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<v Speaker 8>could only grab five kilograms. Okay before I got out

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<v Speaker 8>of the States.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your life like before you came hand?

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<v Speaker 8>Terrible kilograms of go came Yeah, you know, so you

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<v Speaker 8>went wrong somewhere when you're doing that you know, smart,

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<v Speaker 8>you got a thing right off pokers as at that moment,

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<v Speaker 8>had a spiritual experience and I went all the way

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<v Speaker 8>back to when I was a child, and I you know,

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<v Speaker 8>got back in my body and I was staring at

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<v Speaker 8>a butthole. And we found out later there was a

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<v Speaker 8>little LSD in the cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your relationship with drugs?

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<v Speaker 8>Like now a weed, ayahuasca, ceremonialy d MT.

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<v Speaker 1>Casually, I'm probably gonna blur your face with all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>With the FBI stuff. Yeah, oh man, I wanted them

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<v Speaker 8>to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that whole interview was pretty interesting. So again, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to watch the full vlog of my weird

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<v Speaker 1>solo adventure through Guatemala, you can go to YouTube dot

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<v Speaker 1>com slash lyle forever l y l e f O

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<v Speaker 1>R e v e R. The title of the video

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<v Speaker 1>is going to a foreign country alone as a get go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks for listening, guys, goes on the line

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<v Speaker 1>taking your phone calls. Nine goes to just teaching you.

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<v Speaker 8>You're like, but he's not really an expert.