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Speaker 1: do some calls. Hello, well, hi, what's your name?
Speaker 2: Him?
Speaker 1: My name sonjo On from Houston, sanchowed. Nice to Nice
Speaker 1: to meet you, man. What's what's up with you?
Speaker 2: Not much? I was really curious where do you get
Speaker 2: your suits?
Speaker 1: Striklinged Santra It says here that you Okay, I need
Speaker 1: I saw this and I wanted clarification on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: because these this is gonna be this is gonna be
Speaker 1: two different kind of calls potentially. It's just here that
Speaker 1: you knowingly had sex with someone with an STD. Does
Speaker 1: that mean that if you had the STD and had
Speaker 1: sex with them, or they had the SDD and had
Speaker 1: sex with them.
Speaker 2: They had the STD?
Speaker 1: Interesting? So they did they tell you that they had
Speaker 1: an STD?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, we we'd met the night before. I
Speaker 2: really didn't want to spend my Halloween alone and met
Speaker 2: them on tender okay, and I mean their phone number,
Speaker 2: and we ended up hitting it off and we were
Speaker 2: on the phone for like three or four hours until
Speaker 2: like three or four am, and I was like, this
Speaker 2: is awesome. I'm really excited to meet this person. So
Speaker 2: I decided to invite them over and like Carson Pumpkins
Speaker 2: and watch them Halloween movies and show with them for Halloween.
Speaker 2: And on their driveover, they were like thirty minutes and
Speaker 2: they were like, oh, hey, by the way, I'm like
Speaker 2: responsible to tell you that I am herpiest positive.
Speaker 1: Okay, how did you react when she told you?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 2: You know, I really try to keep an open mind.
Speaker 2: I thought a lot that, like, you know, what if
Speaker 2: I was in her position, like I would feel like
Speaker 2: a sexual object of this guy denied me to spend
Speaker 2: time with him, Like what what? Means that we have
Speaker 2: this like sexual connotation to us spending time together. Okay,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I was I wanted to keep an open mind.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to make her feel diseased.
Speaker 2: So now we continue to make LAMB she was awesome.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think that that's that's that's that's fair.
Speaker 1: You you you like this girl, you wanted to spend
Speaker 1: time with her. You weren't even having sex in the equation,
Speaker 1: and so you guys continue to make plans and then
Speaker 1: at what point did things start to become sexual? And
Speaker 1: at that point did you what what made you overlook
Speaker 1: the STD.
Speaker 2: I did a little bit of research before, and it
Speaker 2: said that, like the likelihood of contracting herpes if you're
Speaker 2: wearing protection is low. So I I thought it was
Speaker 2: I thought it was fine, And okay, I think I
Speaker 2: seek out validation and like physical touch and pleasing other
Speaker 2: people like too much, Like it's become a problem. So
Speaker 2: I was willing to overlook it.
Speaker 1: Well, I've I have a couple questions. First, when you
Speaker 1: say that you seek validation in physical touch and in
Speaker 1: pleasing other people, in what way did that factor into
Speaker 1: this situation?
Speaker 2: I really didn't want to spend Halloween that alone. And
Speaker 2: I've been kind of going through this past couple of
Speaker 2: months since I gotten a really big breakup with someone
Speaker 2: I've been with for over a year and a half,
Speaker 2: kind of having multiple partners per week, and I recognize
Speaker 2: that I'm not catering to my mental health like at all,
Speaker 2: and I keep cutting people off, and then I get
Speaker 2: so unsatisfied with being alone and I struggle with FINGL.
Speaker 1: So to you, you were craving physical intimacy to a
Speaker 1: degree that you were willing to overlook potentially getting an STD.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I don't know how herpes works,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what that likelihood is, so I'm
Speaker 1: uninformed about this particular situation.
Speaker 2: But yeah, apparently it's fine with protection. You can just
Speaker 2: it's like a small risk like of the common breaks. Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll up take that risk for like a lifetime of
Speaker 2: having this.
Speaker 1: What were your chances when you looked at up, what
Speaker 1: was the percentage.
Speaker 2: Actually like really low, like like a ten five percent
Speaker 2: chance ten percent of fact check that it?
Speaker 1: Do you have it for? Do you have it for?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1: We have to facture that. We have no idea, but
Speaker 1: do you have it forever if you get it. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know that it would also be that
Speaker 1: we'd have to feel forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, forever.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, all this ship is besides the point. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're feeling lonely creating validation through physical touch? Did you
Speaker 1: once you once you got that validation, that physical touch
Speaker 1: that you were looking for, did it help the loneliness
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I guess temporarily, right.
Speaker 1: Did it help it in any meaningful long term way?
Speaker 2: No? No, not at all.
Speaker 1: What do you think would solve that issue in a
Speaker 1: long term way?
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna start going to therapy tomorrow. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and uh, I really want to find the root of this.
Speaker 2: I think it's like some childhood you know. What, do
Speaker 2: you want to hear my elvis impression? I have a
Speaker 2: really good elvis impression.
Speaker 1: Is your elvis impression related to what you were about?
Speaker 1: What you is your impression not in any way, shape
Speaker 1: or form related to this?
Speaker 2: No, not at all. But I know I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to hear I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear it right now. And that's if
Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about this anymore.
Speaker 2: No, I'm okay with talking about this.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you don't have to. You sound like
Speaker 1: you don't want to. That's why you brought up doing anl.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. I just
Speaker 2: I want to keep talking about it.
Speaker 1: Why did you bring up are you looking at the
Speaker 1: chat right now?
Speaker 2: No? No, not at all.
Speaker 1: Why did you bring up doing an Elvis impression?
Speaker 2: A really good Elvis impression?
Speaker 1: Why did you bring up doing an Elvis impression?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: I I think there is some roote contribution of my
Speaker 2: love for Elvis and my desire to be Elvis and
Speaker 2: this romantization of he got all the women that he wanted,
Speaker 2: and I guess I want to be Elvis. Well, baby
Speaker 2: left me. Well I found a new place to Dwell,
Speaker 2: we'll let's tell it be a little bit.
Speaker 1: I hate this, Sacha, please stop, please stop. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna go to therapy tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go to therapy tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Okay, how many? That's good. It's good that you're you're
Speaker 1: taking some kind of initiative to to deal with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: What's your name Sancha. Is there any anything? Did you
Speaker 1: get tested for herpes afterwards?
Speaker 2: No? No, I haven't.
Speaker 1: You haven't gotten Sancho. Did you have sex with anyone
Speaker 1: before getting tested for herpes? Mhm, sa, go get tested
Speaker 1: for herpes? Man sitting here on the Sancho, Sancho, you're
Speaker 1: sitting here on the phone trying to do a geo,
Speaker 1: trying to do an Elvis impression for a gecko right now, right,
Speaker 1: you should go get tested.
Speaker 2: It's a really good impression.
Speaker 1: Okay, I know a Sancho. Is there anything else you
Speaker 1: want to say to the people of the computer before
Speaker 1: we go?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have a question, GAK. If I started twitch
Speaker 2: streaming in a fish costume and I labeled myself at
Speaker 2: the well being fish, would you would you? Would you
Speaker 2: assume me for stealing your image or maybe that would
Speaker 2: encourage you to have me on your show?
Speaker 1: No that I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I don't think I
Speaker 1: would do either of those two things. I would probably,
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't do anything in response to that.
Speaker 2: Really, you don't what would be the first step in
Speaker 2: becoming the well.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling, Sancho. I'll talk to you.
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you soon. It actually wasn't that bad
Speaker 1: of an Elvis impression. I don't really know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've listened to hound Dog and Viva Las Vegas, but
Speaker 1: I guess in his like I haven't like listened to
Speaker 1: any interviews with him. I haven't seen that movie, so
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what he says. I don't have
Speaker 1: a great frame of reference, but for the frame of
Speaker 1: reference I do have it it wasn't that bad. Is
Speaker 1: spontaneously doing elvis impressions just maybe a symptom of herpes.
Speaker 1: Let's fact check that too, while we're fat we don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's true. There's no basis in it,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying while we fact check things, let's
Speaker 1: fact check that as well. Hello, how's it going, Josh.
Speaker 1: You have been on the line. You've been on hold
Speaker 1: for three hours?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Just about What have.
Speaker 1: You been doing while you've been on hold for three hours?
Speaker 3: Honestly? Funny enough, while I've been listening to you and
Speaker 3: playing this game called Vampire Survivors, I just got really
Speaker 3: into it.
Speaker 1: Says here that you wanted to call in because you're
Speaker 1: a vampire rapper and you wanted to talk about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's why it was funny. I was playing
Speaker 3: that game.
Speaker 1: How does one become a vampire rapper?
Speaker 3: Well, first I became a vampire and then the rapper
Speaker 3: thing just kind of followed that.
Speaker 1: I was I was wondering which one was first, Well,
Speaker 1: a vampire rap Well, actually, I'm thinking here, it would
Speaker 1: make kind of more sense for you to be have
Speaker 1: become a rapper a rapper first, and then become a
Speaker 1: vampire because you're a rap. You're a vampire rapper, not
Speaker 1: a rapper vampire. The second thing is like the main thing,
Speaker 1: right like you are you are a rapper, and vampire
Speaker 1: is the type of rapper you are, whereas if you
Speaker 1: were by trade a vampire, but you are a rapping
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That does make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Well, actually the truth is none of this makes sense,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna roll with it anyway. What is a
Speaker 1: vampire around?
Speaker 3: I am a rapper. I started making music in like
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, and I mostly rapped about vampire shenanigans.
Speaker 1: How did you get into like, okay, so walk me
Speaker 1: through this. You are a vampire or you just fuck
Speaker 1: with vampires?
Speaker 3: I fuck with vampires heavily. If I could be a vampire,
Speaker 3: I would be. And as far as it goes, you
Speaker 3: know what, I'm just gonna say, I am a vampire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking back. I don't know why I asked
Speaker 1: you if you're a vampire, because vampires aren't real. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe you like, I mean, on
Speaker 1: who am I fuck me? Who am I to say?
Speaker 1: Who's real and who's not? A You say you are
Speaker 1: something I'm not gonna be.
Speaker 3: I mean, people give names to monsters. Monsters can be
Speaker 3: a lot of things throughout history. Vampires have always been
Speaker 3: in uh in history, throughout every culture, you know some
Speaker 3: kind of vampire or another. So I feel like it's
Speaker 3: a staple throughout history and society.
Speaker 1: Why a vampire? You said that if you could be one,
Speaker 1: you would be one. I don't think I would say
Speaker 1: the same. But why would you choose to be a
Speaker 1: vampire as opposed to a human?
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you want to live forever?
Speaker 4: Young?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I don't want to fucking lift forever. This's horrible. That
Speaker 1: was a very vampire.
Speaker 3: Last well, it hasn't. It hasn't been the best for
Speaker 3: me lately, but at the same time, I still i'd
Speaker 3: kick it a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: See this is even more interesting to me. You your life,
Speaker 1: according to you, has it even been good? And yet
Speaker 1: you want to live it forever.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never really been like a religious person, right,
Speaker 3: I'm not convinced there's something after death. And I do
Speaker 3: enjoy life, I always have, even when it gets shitty,
Speaker 3: but I don't want to let it go. So maybe
Speaker 3: it's like a death complex thing.
Speaker 1: You're like reverse suicidal.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe you could say that. When I was younger,
Speaker 3: I used to be more on the opposite of that,
Speaker 3: very suicidal. And maybe I'm trying to hold on to
Speaker 3: life or trying to get more out of it.
Speaker 1: I like that, what do you, okay, tell me this
Speaker 1: in the in living forever? What what could you do
Speaker 1: that you can't just do right now?
Speaker 3: Honestly, just the biggest thing is I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: wasting time when I'm just spending time doing stuff that
Speaker 3: I want to do, like like playing video games or
Speaker 3: listening to the Gecko Talk. Lately, I've been like, you know,
Speaker 3: listening to podcasts when I do the dishes, something that
Speaker 3: I can I feel like I'm doing something productive while
Speaker 3: I'm listening to stuff. I wish I had all the
Speaker 3: time in the world that I could just not worry
Speaker 3: about about life slipping away.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, this is why I'm asking, so life is
Speaker 1: slipping away. On a second, secondly, basis, what do you
Speaker 1: want to do with it? What I mean, life's only
Speaker 1: valuable because you decide to wake up and get out
Speaker 1: of bed and do anything, or you know, at least
Speaker 1: look at stuff, at least feel a lie like what
Speaker 1: do you what do you intend to do with this life?
Speaker 1: Or desire to do? I have a few goal just
Speaker 1: do right now. Please let me hear the goals.
Speaker 3: I'm working on him right now. But one, I want
Speaker 3: to be happy, which I feel like I am a
Speaker 3: lot of days, but not every day. I want to
Speaker 3: make sure that I wake up happy. And I just
Speaker 3: want to get out of bed. And I was actually
Speaker 3: listening to your podcast with Baby No Money the other
Speaker 3: day and he said something that when people ask him
Speaker 3: what it's like to do what he does, he tells
Speaker 3: him that he can't wait to get out of bed
Speaker 3: every day. And I used to be like that, but
Speaker 3: lately I've been wanting to sleep an extra hour as
Speaker 3: long as I can before, I like get up to
Speaker 3: go to work, and I missed wanting to like wake
Speaker 3: up to take like the day and fucking like seize it.
Speaker 1: What do you think changed between now and when you
Speaker 1: used to wake up wanting to seize the day.
Speaker 3: Honestly, a lot, a lot has changed. I don't know
Speaker 3: exactly what it is. I'm a father, I am am
Speaker 3: a young father. I had my daughter when I was
Speaker 3: seventeen and I'm twenty four now, so she's seven years old.
Speaker 3: Having to grow up to be responsible for that, that's
Speaker 3: a whole other, whole other, you know, beast on its own.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, like my daughter is one
Speaker 3: of the reasons that I remembered why I wanted to
Speaker 3: get out of bed in the morning. But I've been
Speaker 3: working a lot more lately. I switched my job. That
Speaker 3: was part of like what I put in the call notes,
Speaker 3: I didn't really switch my job. I kind of lost
Speaker 3: my job at the place I was working at, and
Speaker 3: I really loved my job. And it's a lot different
Speaker 3: working like for a corporate business versus working for someone
Speaker 3: that you like personally know, you feel more expendable. I'm
Speaker 3: talking a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean, this is you're a lot more
Speaker 1: than It's funny because I came into this thinking that
Speaker 1: I was going to learn about vampires and rappers, but
Speaker 1: I'm learning more about Josh.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 1: So so tell me these goals that you have you
Speaker 1: want to wake up? Have you want to wake up happen? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a goal. That's that's thesis. That's a good thesis.
Speaker 1: When's the last time you woke up happy?
Speaker 3: Like probably? Well, I mean this morning, I didn't wake
Speaker 3: up sad, but I still slept in for for a while.
Speaker 3: I So, I work at Spirit Halloween now and we just,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know what that is. It's
Speaker 3: like a halloween store. Yeah yeah, So we're like seasonal.
Speaker 3: So at the end of the season, we have to
Speaker 3: like pack up all the walls and put them in
Speaker 3: trucks and shit like that, and they're like really heavy walls.
Speaker 3: And I've been fucking I closed down like three different
Speaker 3: stores this year, so I'm I'm been like tired, and
Speaker 3: this is my first like week off.
Speaker 5: In a minute.
Speaker 3: So I just kind of slept in this morning a
Speaker 3: little bit and that was good. But I remember last
Speaker 3: week specifically, I did wake up and just like wanted
Speaker 3: to get the day going and got out of bed,
Speaker 3: like had some coffee, and that was refreshing.
Speaker 1: When you did your interview for Spirit Halloween, did you
Speaker 1: mention the wrapping vampire stuff, because I feel like that
Speaker 1: would have been the thing that sealed the deal.
Speaker 3: I started rapping as a vampire like the first year
Speaker 3: after I started to work at Spirit.
Speaker 1: Actually, ah, the chicken came before.
Speaker 6: The egg, yeah, in that case. But then that that
Speaker 6: led into like my next job. The thing that I
Speaker 6: was that I just kind of lost was my first
Speaker 6: boss at Spirit Halloween. She like stopped being working at
Speaker 6: Spirit that year and went to go open this oddity
Speaker 6: shop and she like called her team from Spirit and
Speaker 6: was like, who wants to help me set this up?
Speaker 6: And I like showed up to help paint the walls
Speaker 6: and everything and like help get those.
Speaker 1: Already selling, like you were working selling teeth and skulls
Speaker 1: and shit.
Speaker 3: Well that's what it turned into. I like got my
Speaker 3: foot in the door there, and then she really liked
Speaker 3: me and my boss and I just like stuck around
Speaker 3: and started working there, and yeah, that turned into human
Speaker 3: skeletons like we had a face in a jar for
Speaker 3: a long time. We called her miss Jackson.
Speaker 1: I love I love like that. You like the hierarchy
Speaker 1: is that you go if you get, If you get
Speaker 1: really good at selling fake faces and fake skeletons and shit,
Speaker 1: you graduate just getting to sell real ones.
Speaker 3: I always thought that was the irony of my life.
Speaker 3: And I went from selling like fake skeletons, that's selling.
Speaker 2: You want.
Speaker 1: And then you recently got like the shop.
Speaker 3: Yes, sadly, I mean like it's a it's a really
Speaker 3: niche subject to open a shop on and like our
Speaker 3: location in uh, Pennsylvania isn't the you know, the most popping,
Speaker 3: so just like the hours weren't really there, and it's
Speaker 3: it's really sad. I mean, I've absolutely loved it there,
Speaker 3: and I know my boss would keep me if she could,
Speaker 3: but she just can't really afford it. So that's a
Speaker 3: whole other kind of sad thing. But honestly, what I
Speaker 3: like earned, what I learned working there is so much more.
Speaker 3: I really am going to take this stuff with me
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life. And honestly, I met
Speaker 3: the person that got me in the studio for the
Speaker 3: first time at working at the oudity shop. It was
Speaker 3: my boss's cousin came in and he was like a
Speaker 3: metalhead and is like in a band and is a
Speaker 3: professional musician and shit. And I told him I was
Speaker 3: a rapper and showed him some of my stuff and
Speaker 3: he was like, I got to get you in the studio.
Speaker 3: So that's how I like went from recording in my
Speaker 3: bedroom to recording in like a real studio. I had
Speaker 3: my first like live show through people I met there.
Speaker 3: So like everything's kind of been progressing since, like I
Speaker 3: first started my first job at Spirit.
Speaker 1: So, Josh, what are you going to do now that
Speaker 1: you have been let go from the autist shop? What
Speaker 1: is your next step?
Speaker 3: So that's kind of the thing I called about someone
Speaker 3: at uh so Spirit is owned by Spencer's, and someone
Speaker 3: at Spencer's wanted me to go be like an assistant
Speaker 3: manager at Spencer's and I and like, that's I know
Speaker 3: what I'm falling back on. I already like them.
Speaker 1: Close to in in in genre place. There are some there.
Speaker 3: The main thing that I'm kind of like iffy about
Speaker 3: is I'm I've been like the only job I ever
Speaker 3: really worked with retail. I worked retail for like the
Speaker 3: past five years. It was definitely different when I didn't
Speaker 3: work for such like a corporate thing and it was
Speaker 3: more like a you know, like a brick and mortar place.
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure if I want to keep doing retail,
Speaker 3: what would you like to do? I want to move
Speaker 3: somewhere a little bit warmer, maybe like somewhere by a
Speaker 3: beach or that's like an hour drive from a beach,
Speaker 3: And I want to keep focusing on music. It like,
Speaker 3: I really love making music and music videos. And I
Speaker 3: remember I was happiest when I was just making music
Speaker 3: videos and I would try to make one a month
Speaker 3: and make sure I got it out by like the
Speaker 3: end of the month, and it kept me on like
Speaker 3: a really good schedule, and like I had this work
Speaker 3: ethic that like I felt like I was working for myself.
Speaker 1: So so let's talk about let's talk about this. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about this real quick. You know, usually my my
Speaker 1: personal feelings on this stuff. It it it gets a
Speaker 1: little wonky when you have a kid, because if you
Speaker 1: didn't have a kid, I'd be like, go because if
Speaker 1: you didn't have a kid, you could just go be
Speaker 1: homeless on a beach and pick up like a food
Speaker 1: that washes in into the sand and then make your
Speaker 1: music and you'd be fucking fine. You know you can
Speaker 1: do that. That's a beautiful I think about that a lot,
Speaker 1: and it's a beautiful. But you have a child and
Speaker 1: so you do have a degree of responsibility here to
Speaker 1: you know, take care of the child. So what how
Speaker 1: how has how has it been in fulfilling that responsibility.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing bad. I I live with my girlfriend
Speaker 3: and my daughter in her own apartment. It's I'm able
Speaker 3: to afford it. But I'm only able really to afford
Speaker 3: it because we both work jobs. So that's definitely something
Speaker 3: that you know, I need to That's kind of why
Speaker 3: I already signed up for the Spencers, because you know,
Speaker 3: I like, I need a paycheck still that's more than
Speaker 3: just what I'm getting from music right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, But uh.
Speaker 3: So, you know, ideally I'd like to live a life
Speaker 3: where I just don't have to work uh retail position anymore,
Speaker 3: or if I did, it wouldn't be like every day
Speaker 3: of the week and be like part time and then
Speaker 3: also focus on like art stuff.
Speaker 1: So Josh, I mean, I'll tell you this, I do believe.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have an extra cog in the machine
Speaker 1: here and the fact that you have a daughter. But
Speaker 1: I do believe that you can find a balance between
Speaker 1: these three pillars of your life. The job that you
Speaker 1: need to work to make money, the child that you
Speaker 1: need to support and spend time with, and the musical
Speaker 1: career that you need to pursue.
Speaker 3: Happy.
Speaker 1: Do you believe if you find harmony between those three
Speaker 1: things that you will be happy?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? I think that's that's.
Speaker 1: My main Now, now, all right, now, let me throw
Speaker 1: you this one. Do you believe that in the mere
Speaker 1: pursuit of harmony between those three things you can be happy?
Speaker 1: Because if you're not happy on the journey, you ain't
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna be happy with the destination.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can at least I can at least definitely
Speaker 3: have some good days in between. And that's I mean,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm working on, is is waking up happier
Speaker 3: on the pursuit good as well as the destination.
Speaker 1: You know, good, And it's never gonna be perfect. It's
Speaker 1: never gonna be perfect. I'm trying on a bunch of
Speaker 1: shit myself, and you know, it's it's never perfect. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to ride the roller coaster and you
Speaker 1: might just be wired in some fucking way where, like
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, Maybe this is a maybe
Speaker 1: this's a dangerous thing to say, but you might be
Speaker 1: wired and some way where your depression is inevitable, but
Speaker 1: also your happiness is inevitable and you just have to
Speaker 1: take the ying and yang of life for whatever way
Speaker 1: it is. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I do get exactly what you're saying, and that that
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense. You say you're not a
Speaker 3: real therapist, but some stuff gets through.
Speaker 1: How do I By the way, before we go, do
Speaker 1: you have a connected spirit Halloween that I can start
Speaker 1: doing my Gecko costumes at so I can finally make
Speaker 1: some money off of this shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll text my district manager for you.
Speaker 1: Okay, beautiful Josh, is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people that computer it before you go?
Speaker 3: I found you on TikTok a couple of months ago.
Speaker 3: I've been watching the YouTube videos listening to the podcast.
Speaker 3: I really like yourself. This is my first time actually
Speaker 3: calling in, so I'm glad I got through. But uh,
Speaker 3: check me out on Spotify or check out my YouTube videos.
Speaker 1: You can all right, not so fast? So fast, not
Speaker 1: so fast, not so fast? You rap for us right now?
Speaker 1: I want to hear a rap?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: What's okay?
Speaker 1: Do you free? Hold on? Hold on?
Speaker 2: What do you want to style?
Speaker 1: Or do you do you freestyle? Or do you just
Speaker 1: do songs?
Speaker 3: I used the freestyle. I just write my stuff lately, though.
Speaker 1: Would you freestyle right now? Or is that too much?
Speaker 3: Oh god, uh no, you're gonna have to check me out.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Spin us some bars?
Speaker 3: I just uh yeah, okay, do you want to hear
Speaker 3: my I have a song that has like five hundred
Speaker 3: thousand plays? Do you want to hear that one?
Speaker 1: I'll hear like, let's just hear, let's hear like the
Speaker 1: first verse of it.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm just gonna do something else. My latest,
Speaker 3: my latest vampire bars were something like, you keep squirming,
Speaker 3: it's no wonder when my teeth hurting. I keep slipping,
Speaker 3: so there's nothing left to bleed, bringia, nothing left to see,
Speaker 3: and there's nothing left to me either. I'm peace certain
Speaker 3: that I think it's time to leave with your packing
Speaker 3: up your things, and it's time the best in peace
Speaker 3: with you. But that was the end of the song.
Speaker 1: That was That was pretty spooky.
Speaker 3: You made me too.
Speaker 1: Nervous vampires the number four higher?
Speaker 3: Yes, what, thank you for remembering?
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Josh, love you get take care brother. Hello? Hello, Hi?
Speaker 1: Who is this car? Carson? It says here that you
Speaker 1: are with Tiffany, your girlfriend.
Speaker 2: That's correct, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: Tiffany there?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 1: How are you Tiffany?
Speaker 7: I'm all right? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? Can I can I bring up what it
Speaker 1: says that you guys wanted to talk about? Where do
Speaker 1: you guys want to tell me?
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, you can bring it.
Speaker 1: Up, all right. It says here that you want to
Speaker 1: discuss you guys reconciling after Tiffany cheated on Carson.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I got a little drunk, did some stuff
Speaker 4: I shouldn't have done, and cheated on him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, sadly.
Speaker 1: Uh how do you How do you feel about that? Carson?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of pissed, and uh, you know.
Speaker 3: She wasn't.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: I kind of want to like break up, but we
Speaker 5: have a lease together and you know, responsibilities and bills
Speaker 5: and ship to pay. So uh, I don't know. I
Speaker 5: don't know how to really because I just found out today.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure it out myself.
Speaker 1: You just found this out today?
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, today.
Speaker 5: Came up to me and was like, uh, I got
Speaker 5: something to tell you that that happened last night?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so.
Speaker 1: So so definitely this happened last night, Yes, sir, it did. Okay.
Speaker 1: How long you guys been together?
Speaker 3: For?
Speaker 5: Three years?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: So long?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So, I mean, Tiffany, what what kind of inspired you
Speaker 1: to do what you did?
Speaker 7: I guess I just.
Speaker 4: Get attracted to other people at times when I've been
Speaker 4: drinking and doing some stuff I shouldn't have been doing,
Speaker 4: and sadly a little bit of some powder which's found
Speaker 4: in our lifle bars around here.
Speaker 1: You said power. What is it about power that you said?
Speaker 2: No powder? Powder?
Speaker 1: She's powder? Okay, okay, okay, yes, yes, that's.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: You think I should get to sleep with another girl? Right,
Speaker 5: That's that makes it even?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Then we go about our day.
Speaker 1: Is that is that something that you guys have been discussing?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: No, no, I just that just came off the top
Speaker 5: of my head yourself, Yeah, that did just come out the.
Speaker 7: Doping his head.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, I'm not I don't I don't have
Speaker 1: any What what do you think about that, Tiffany.
Speaker 7: Well, personally, I do not think that to rights or
Speaker 7: too wrong to make it right.
Speaker 1: What's the same you do too wrong s don't make
Speaker 1: it right?
Speaker 7: Yes, I don't really agree with it, but well that
Speaker 7: would make him feel better and stay with.
Speaker 1: Me than.
Speaker 3: H.
Speaker 1: What about money, Tiffany? What about money?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I'm not kidding, Tiffany. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: No, you don't Okay, okay, okay, everyone, everyone, everyone, Everyone
Speaker 1: calmed down. Everyone calmed down, Everyone calm down for a second. Okay, Carson,
Speaker 1: tell me, honestly, tell me honestly, what if if anything?
Speaker 1: The answer could be nothing, What if anything do you
Speaker 1: truly feel Tiffany could do to get back into your
Speaker 1: good graces?
Speaker 5: Uh? I guess give me the mock code to her
Speaker 5: phone and just promise it won't happen again for being honest, Yeah.
Speaker 1: You want the lock code to her phone?
Speaker 3: Maybe not that.
Speaker 5: Okay, we can just look past it and move on. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's probably the best idea.
Speaker 1: You want to move You want to look past it
Speaker 1: and move on.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but if it happens again, you know, then she's out.
Speaker 1: Right, Tiffany. Can I ask you a question, sir, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: is this the first time this has happened in the
Speaker 1: three year relationship?
Speaker 4: Yes it is, Okay, I feel terrible about it.
Speaker 1: And you guys share a lease together, Yes we did.
Speaker 1: How long has that been a thing?
Speaker 5: Oh? Not eight months?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you something. I'm gonna ask both
Speaker 1: of you guys this question. By the way, you guys
Speaker 1: aren't fucking with me right now, are you?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Like you would tell like you? You would tell me
Speaker 1: the truth if you guys.
Speaker 5: Were no, I, well, you are a real counselor. I
Speaker 5: would go to like I'm not, you know, marriage counselor
Speaker 5: or some shit if we had money.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, wait, so you would go to a
Speaker 1: real marriage counselor if it was if you were fucking
Speaker 1: with me?
Speaker 5: No, wait, I don't understand. No, if I had money, Yeah,
Speaker 5: if I had money, I would be going. I would
Speaker 5: go to like a marriage counselor.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm ask both of you guys the same question. Uh, Carson,
Speaker 1: tell me in these past three years and currently, what
Speaker 1: kinds of thing? What this relationship as a whole, Has
Speaker 1: it been a positive force in your life? And if so,
Speaker 1: in what way has it been a positive force in
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 5: You asked, that's the Carson, right, Yeah, I'm probably. I
Speaker 5: mean it's been positive. Yeah, uh, it's been positive in
Speaker 5: my life. I think in our life together, I should say, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, we've got our own plate. Uh, got a
Speaker 5: little dog, no kids, luckily, but you know that's not
Speaker 5: what she wants, so who knows about that? But yeah, no, no,
Speaker 5: I think overall has been very positive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, Tiffany, what how do you feel? Do
Speaker 1: you do you believe that the relationship has been a
Speaker 1: positive force in your life?
Speaker 7: Absolutely? He has made me grow as a person, and
Speaker 7: you need become a better person. I feel very guilty
Speaker 7: from what I did.
Speaker 5: Mhm, why would you be chuckling? And oh that's fucked.
Speaker 5: So she don't here to understand the gravity of it.
Speaker 2: She doesn't.
Speaker 7: Mh, Well what happens whenever you get a little bit
Speaker 7: too drunk. But yeah, I will forever feel guilty and
Speaker 7: just continue to ask for forgiveness from a good dear lord.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the forgiveness is in the hands
Speaker 1: of the Lord here, but.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I forgive you though that it's all good.
Speaker 5: I'll forgive you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Okay. Cool. I guess we settled that.
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you very much. You know, I don't think
Speaker 5: none of my friend's going to help me more than
Speaker 5: you could have.
Speaker 1: So beautiful. So anything you guys want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 5: On the computer, We love you computer people.
Speaker 7: We love every one of you, and thank you for
Speaker 7: your help.
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys.
Speaker 2: Have a good night.
Speaker 3: I'm getting into divorce, all right.
Speaker 1: That was totally fake, right, that was a fake, stupid
Speaker 1: waste of time. You know, it's fight normally, I don't
Speaker 1: care about the fake calls, but that was that was
Speaker 1: pretty annoying. I don't know, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know that was really I don't I guess. I guess
Speaker 1: hopefully it was fake. Hopefully it was fake. But then again, actually,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on. I do have an
Speaker 1: important detail to reveal about that call that might change
Speaker 1: everyone's perspective on it. Both of them are from Florida,
Speaker 1: so maybe it was real.
Speaker 3: Hello is this the get.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who is this?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 3: Hi? This is Chase.
Speaker 1: How are you doing, Chase?
Speaker 3: I'm right, how are you Chase?
Speaker 1: It's a hear that you're a triplet and you believe
Speaker 1: that your two brothers do not respect you.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: Why do you feel like they don't respect you?
Speaker 3: I've kind of always felt like that, uh, sort of
Speaker 3: like they were. Yeah, it's hard to I feel like
Speaker 3: it always kind of comes off like I'm like, like,
Speaker 3: there's it's just just you know, it's just how brothers are.
Speaker 3: But I've always felt like they were. They were sort
Speaker 3: of like my brother my my my bullies growing.
Speaker 2: Up and.
Speaker 3: When we got older or not not so much like
Speaker 3: them directly, but more so like their friends. And they
Speaker 3: sort of encouraged it. And anytime I've brought that up, uh,
Speaker 3: they kind of just ignore it and and kind of
Speaker 3: just in general, I just think that they don't respect me,
Speaker 3: you know, they just Yeah.
Speaker 1: Have they always not respected you throughout your life?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it's kind of how I feel. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So do they live how? Like often do you really
Speaker 1: even see them?
Speaker 3: So I'm twenty eight, so I haven't. No, I don't.
Speaker 3: They live in different states now. I don't see them
Speaker 3: that often. It's mostly just for holidays. But like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I definitely like I feel like I don't really want
Speaker 3: a relationship with them, and in many ways, I don't
Speaker 3: really like I don't talk to them at all really,
Speaker 3: but I do see them at the holidays. It's kind
Speaker 3: of why I'm calling, is you know, I have to
Speaker 3: see them coming up soon for Thanksgiving. Yeah, I just
Speaker 3: I feel like oftentimes I feel like it should be
Speaker 3: easy to just ignore them and kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: do my own thing. But then if they you know,
Speaker 3: they'll if one of them just kind of tries to
Speaker 3: have even just a casual conversation, like it can it
Speaker 3: can turn into a fight. It's like a really stupid fight.
Speaker 3: And even then, like I just don't really want to
Speaker 3: talk to them in general. But then I kind of
Speaker 3: come off like like the asshole because I'm like brushing
Speaker 3: them off or ignoring them or whatever. And I feel
Speaker 3: like I don't really know the right way to handle it.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, do you respect them?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I guess probably not, because I
Speaker 3: feel like they bullied me, you know, and like they
Speaker 3: never any like I said, like anytime, like I've brought
Speaker 3: that that up, like they've just kind of brushed that off,
Speaker 3: like they don't they don't even really acknowledge that that like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that like this is the way I feel like they
Speaker 3: just don't really care. So I guess, yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: I certainly. I mean I can't I can't really respect that,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So is this an issue for you at
Speaker 1: all outside of just the holidays? Like, is this some
Speaker 1: kind of macro thing that just bothers you or is
Speaker 1: it mainly an issue regarding the holidays?
Speaker 3: I think that it's it's most Uh, I guess I
Speaker 3: have to deal with it most like like mostly yeah,
Speaker 3: like like during the holidays, and yeah, just like any
Speaker 3: other time that I have to like kind of you know,
Speaker 3: be around them, around like family with them.
Speaker 1: So, you know, the relationships are tough because you have
Speaker 1: no control over them. You only have, well you have.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say you don't have no control. You
Speaker 1: have the fifty percent of control you have, your half
Speaker 1: you have you There's like, there's no point in us
Speaker 1: talking about what you feel as though your brothers may
Speaker 1: owe you, or how we feel like they should be,
Speaker 1: or how we wish they would be, or any of
Speaker 1: that shit. It's not you know, especially now considering that
Speaker 1: you've told me that you've even expressed to them your issues,
Speaker 1: because that's part of what's in your control, right, is
Speaker 1: to express the issues you have, and you've done that
Speaker 1: and they haven't been receptive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've tried.
Speaker 1: So Okay, now I feel like we're looking at all right,
Speaker 1: what are our options? What can we do on our
Speaker 1: end to achieve the objective? Which now maybe well, actually
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to assume anything. What
Speaker 1: is the objective? Is the objective to attempt to build
Speaker 1: a better relationship with them? Or is the objective to
Speaker 1: get through the damn holidays without fighting? How would you
Speaker 1: describe the objective?
Speaker 3: I think that I'm not interested in a in yeah,
Speaker 3: building any kind of relationship with them, at least at
Speaker 3: this point. So yeah, probably probably the latter, probably, Yeah,
Speaker 3: just kind of like getting through the holidays without fighting
Speaker 3: with them, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So the objective is to get through the holidays
Speaker 1: without fighting them. You say that sometimes you try to
Speaker 1: talk to them and it ends up in a fight.
Speaker 1: Is that correct? In those situations where you try to
Speaker 1: talk to where you where you talk to them and
Speaker 1: it ends up in a fight. What degree of that
Speaker 1: ending up in a fight can you take responsibility for? Like,
Speaker 1: if they make a comment to you that's unsavory, do
Speaker 1: you fight back with a comment of your own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I think, if I'm really being fair,
Speaker 3: probably probably fifty.
Speaker 1: Okay. So, like if we took our own ego out
Speaker 1: of it, and we were just like I just want
Speaker 1: to pick the path that leads to the path of
Speaker 1: least resistance, we'll call it what path leads to the
Speaker 1: least amount of conflict. Even if that path involves me
Speaker 1: sitting there and quote taking it when my brother says
Speaker 1: something annoying to me about my life, I will withstand
Speaker 1: that for the sake of the greater good, the sake
Speaker 1: of my greater objective, which is to not engage in conflict,
Speaker 1: and actually to not sit there and take it. To
Speaker 1: throw an insult back, would even if it feels good
Speaker 1: in the moment, be a detriment to my own goals,
Speaker 1: and so it's not the best thing for me to do.
Speaker 1: So think about that next time you are in a
Speaker 1: casual conversation and just be mindful of like, this is
Speaker 1: my personal objective is to get through this without any conflict.
Speaker 1: What is the best way to do that, not what
Speaker 1: is emotionally fueling my choices right now, Because if you're
Speaker 1: based off of what's emotionally fueling your choices right now,
Speaker 1: You're gonna make choices that are going to result in conflict.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it does.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think that is. I think
Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna try to to to take that path
Speaker 3: to to think about that throughout the next couple of
Speaker 3: weeks the rest of the year living. You know, in general,
Speaker 3: I think so oftentimes, like you said, I think, uh uh,
Speaker 3: you know, separating taking your ego away from it. I
Speaker 3: think in many ways, I think my ego does kind
Speaker 3: of overtake me, and I think I just can't help
Speaker 3: myself but to kind of say something. And I think
Speaker 3: that like not saying something is going to let them win.
Speaker 1: Well, let me give you a different I have to
Speaker 1: bring up a different perspective on that, this idea of
Speaker 1: letting them win. What if we phrased it like this,
Speaker 1: your you, your is tell me truly tell me honestly
Speaker 1: is your objective honestly to get through this without any conflict. Look,
Speaker 1: if you want to stick it to them and that's
Speaker 1: your objective, you can tell me, like, what really is
Speaker 1: in your heart to want to do over the holidays?
Speaker 1: What do you genuinely desire you? Do you genuinely desire peace?
Speaker 3: I think I think at one point in my life
Speaker 3: I would have told you, yeah, I want to stick
Speaker 3: it to At this point, no, I just I'm done.
Speaker 3: I've you know, I've I've tried sticking it to them.
Speaker 3: I've tried, I've tried everything. I've tried ignoring them, and
Speaker 3: I just I don't know anymore. I don't know what
Speaker 3: to do anymore. I just want to get through it
Speaker 3: without causing any problems.
Speaker 1: All Right, You're twenty eight years old. You've tried as
Speaker 1: hard as you can to make up with them, You've
Speaker 1: stuck it to them. You're tired now. You love your
Speaker 1: mom and your rest of your family. That's why you
Speaker 1: show up for Thanksgiving? Right, Yeah? And so your objective,
Speaker 1: and I'm asking this is a question, your objective is peace? Truly?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you win if there is peace, that's your
Speaker 1: win condition.
Speaker 3: I guess, I mean, I guess I'm kind of regretting
Speaker 3: that the winning freak, because I don't even really look
Speaker 3: at it as like I'm winning as much as just.
Speaker 2: Well, no, we can, we can.
Speaker 1: We can stay in that. We can. We here's the
Speaker 1: thing we can stay in that idea, you win if
Speaker 1: there's peace.
Speaker 3: M So, because I just I just don't want to
Speaker 3: like I'm not trying to like it's not like I'm
Speaker 3: like I'm like trying to like beat them, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like, it's just like you're not trying.
Speaker 1: You're not trying, You're not trying to be This is
Speaker 1: not a this is not a win. This is not
Speaker 1: a win over any of them. You were not going
Speaker 1: after peace to stick it to them. You were going
Speaker 1: after peace as a win for your own corrector is
Speaker 1: your own victory. And so when you're engaged, and so
Speaker 1: when you're talking to your brother and he says some
Speaker 1: ship that pisces you off, and you want and to
Speaker 1: hurl something back at him because you don't want to
Speaker 1: let him win. What you're actually doing is you don't
Speaker 1: let him win when you take the ultimate step back
Speaker 1: and you go, let me throw my ego out of it,
Speaker 1: let me throw the idea of letting anyone win out
Speaker 1: of it. And I just go, I have my own
Speaker 1: personal objective for nobody else but me of having peace
Speaker 1: this weekend because I love my family and I'm going
Speaker 1: to take the steps and the actions required to achieve
Speaker 1: that objective, because that's what winning looks like for me.
Speaker 1: And so in that moment, you choose to let it
Speaker 1: slide because if this person is this is like some
Speaker 1: I forget, some stoic philosopher said some shit about letting
Speaker 1: people win is actually when you allow them to manipulate
Speaker 1: you emotionally. And so if you allow your brother to
Speaker 1: make you upset to the point where it influences your
Speaker 1: actions and you say something back, that is letting him win.
Speaker 1: When you hold true to your ultimate objective, which is
Speaker 1: to keep the peace. That is when you win. And
Speaker 1: that's not a game you're playing with anyone else but yourself.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that does. I like that, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Are they bigger than you? Can? They can they over
Speaker 1: overpower you physically?
Speaker 3: No? I mean like like one, It's like that's not
Speaker 3: really like it's not it's never really been like that,
Speaker 3: you know it has It's never really been like a
Speaker 3: physical like they they beat me up?
Speaker 1: Do you do you have you seen their penises?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, what do you mean?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: They're brothers?
Speaker 3: You I mean, I guess probably when I was very young,
Speaker 3: Like I'm a triplet yeah, so like we re took.
Speaker 1: Yes, you've seen you've seen that, You've seen their penises.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, do.
Speaker 1: You have a do you have a bigger penis than
Speaker 1: they do?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, all right, So if all the stoic philosophy
Speaker 1: crap doesn't work for you, then you know there's that too.
Speaker 3: That's true. It's a good point. Thanks Kick, Thanks for
Speaker 3: calling Chase, Thank you Gick.
Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it's the end of the episode and I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about something real quick. It's
Speaker 1: not an ad. Well, I guess it's kind of an ad,
Speaker 1: but just hear me out. Sometimes I put excerpts at
Speaker 1: the end of the podcast from my street interviews that
Speaker 1: I've done on my YouTube channel, And today I just
Speaker 1: uploaded a video on my channel that is probably my
Speaker 1: favorite thing I've ever made. It's a really fun, really weird,
Speaker 1: really wild vlog that I filmed back in June from
Speaker 1: a trip I took to Guatemala completely alone. I went
Speaker 1: there to wander around the streets by myself in full
Speaker 1: gecko attire, just to see what would happen, see who
Speaker 1: I could talk to, and I got into a lot
Speaker 1: of weird situations. I interviewed the workers of a Guatemalan McDonald's.
Speaker 1: A guy invited me into his house to eat bread
Speaker 1: made out of shit. I talked to an expat that
Speaker 1: was running from the FBI, and all of this was
Speaker 1: very spontaneous and not planned and just happened as a
Speaker 1: result of me putting myself out there and walking around
Speaker 1: as a gecko just to see what would happen. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a clip from it real quick, and
Speaker 1: if this video sounds interesting to you, you can watch
Speaker 1: the full thing on my YouTube channel YouTube dot com
Speaker 1: slash Lyle forever. The title of the video is going
Speaker 1: to a foreign country alone as a gecko. All right,
Speaker 1: here's a clip. So is running from the FBI easier
Speaker 1: than you expected it to be?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: Yeah, now they have no jurisdiction And I changed my name,
Speaker 8: I changed like my identity.
Speaker 1: So you are caught with five kilograms of cocaine?
Speaker 8: No, no, no, they com me with way more. But I
Speaker 8: could only grab five kilograms. Okay before I got out
Speaker 8: of the States.
Speaker 1: What was your life like before you came hand?
Speaker 8: Terrible kilograms of go came Yeah, you know, so you
Speaker 8: went wrong somewhere when you're doing that you know, smart,
Speaker 8: you got a thing right off pokers as at that moment,
Speaker 8: had a spiritual experience and I went all the way
Speaker 8: back to when I was a child, and I you know,
Speaker 8: got back in my body and I was staring at
Speaker 8: a butthole. And we found out later there was a
Speaker 8: little LSD in the cocaine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What is your relationship with drugs?
Speaker 8: Like now a weed, ayahuasca, ceremonialy d MT.
Speaker 1: Casually, I'm probably gonna blur your face with all this stuff.
Speaker 8: With the FBI stuff. Yeah, oh man, I wanted them
Speaker 8: to see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole interview was pretty interesting. So again, if
Speaker 1: you want to watch the full vlog of my weird
Speaker 1: solo adventure through Guatemala, you can go to YouTube dot
Speaker 1: com slash lyle forever l y l e f O
Speaker 1: R e v e R. The title of the video
Speaker 1: is going to a foreign country alone as a get go.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for listening, guys, goes on the line
Speaker 1: taking your phone calls. Nine goes to just teaching you.
Speaker 8: You're like, but he's not really an expert.