1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, Before we get into this episode, I wanted 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: to tell you all about the brand new Therapy Gecko 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:11,079 Speaker 1: merch drop that has just commenced on my website www 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Dot therapy gecko dot com. We have all new designs 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: for hoodies, t shirts and stickers just in time for 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: the holidays, and the stuff looks really cool. It's very 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: high quality. I would show it to you, but this 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: is a podcast, so I don't really know how to 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: do that. But you can head to www dot therapy 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: Gecko dot com to see for yourself and support the 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: show and get some very cool geckoswag that I personally 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: guarantee you will look very beautiful in. All right, let's 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: do some calls. Hello, well, hi, what's your name? 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: Him? 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: My name sonjo On from Houston, sanchowed. Nice to Nice 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: to meet you, man. What's what's up with you? 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: Not much? I was really curious where do you get 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: your suits? 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: Striklinged Santra It says here that you Okay, I need 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: I saw this and I wanted clarification on it. Okay, 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: because these this is gonna be this is gonna be 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: two different kind of calls potentially. It's just here that 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: you knowingly had sex with someone with an STD. Does 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: that mean that if you had the STD and had 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: sex with them, or they had the SDD and had 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: sex with them. 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: They had the STD? 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: Interesting? So they did they tell you that they had 29 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: an STD? 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, we we'd met the night before. I 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: really didn't want to spend my Halloween alone and met 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: them on tender okay, and I mean their phone number, 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: and we ended up hitting it off and we were 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: on the phone for like three or four hours until 35 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: like three or four am, and I was like, this 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: is awesome. I'm really excited to meet this person. So 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: I decided to invite them over and like Carson Pumpkins 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: and watch them Halloween movies and show with them for Halloween. 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: And on their driveover, they were like thirty minutes and 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: they were like, oh, hey, by the way, I'm like 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: responsible to tell you that I am herpiest positive. 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: Okay, how did you react when she told you? 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: That? 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: You know, I really try to keep an open mind. 45 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: I thought a lot that, like, you know, what if 46 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: I was in her position, like I would feel like 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: a sexual object of this guy denied me to spend 48 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: time with him, Like what what? Means that we have 49 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: this like sexual connotation to us spending time together. Okay, 50 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: so yeah, I was I wanted to keep an open mind. 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to make her feel diseased. 52 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: So now we continue to make LAMB she was awesome. 53 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So I think that that's that's that's that's fair. 54 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: You you you like this girl, you wanted to spend 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: time with her. You weren't even having sex in the equation, 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: and so you guys continue to make plans and then 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: at what point did things start to become sexual? And 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: at that point did you what what made you overlook 59 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: the STD. 60 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: I did a little bit of research before, and it 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: said that, like the likelihood of contracting herpes if you're 62 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: wearing protection is low. So I I thought it was 63 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: I thought it was fine, And okay, I think I 64 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: seek out validation and like physical touch and pleasing other 65 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: people like too much, Like it's become a problem. So 66 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: I was willing to overlook it. 67 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: Well, I've I have a couple questions. First, when you 68 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: say that you seek validation in physical touch and in 69 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: pleasing other people, in what way did that factor into 70 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: this situation? 71 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: I really didn't want to spend Halloween that alone. And 72 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: I've been kind of going through this past couple of 73 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: months since I gotten a really big breakup with someone 74 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: I've been with for over a year and a half, 75 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: kind of having multiple partners per week, and I recognize 76 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: that I'm not catering to my mental health like at all, 77 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: and I keep cutting people off, and then I get 78 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: so unsatisfied with being alone and I struggle with FINGL. 79 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: So to you, you were craving physical intimacy to a 80 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: degree that you were willing to overlook potentially getting an STD. 81 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, I don't know how herpes works, 82 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: and I don't know what that likelihood is, so I'm 83 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: uninformed about this particular situation. 84 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, apparently it's fine with protection. You can just 85 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: it's like a small risk like of the common breaks. Okay, 86 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: we'll up take that risk for like a lifetime of 87 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: having this. 88 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: What were your chances when you looked at up, what 89 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: was the percentage. 90 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 2: Actually like really low, like like a ten five percent 91 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: chance ten percent of fact check that it? 92 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: Do you have it for? Do you have it for? 93 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. 94 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: We have to facture that. We have no idea, but 95 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: do you have it forever if you get it. I 96 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: guess I don't know that it would also be that 97 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: we'd have to feel forever. 98 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, forever. 99 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: Okay, well, all this ship is besides the point. Okay, 100 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: you're feeling lonely creating validation through physical touch? Did you 101 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: once you once you got that validation, that physical touch 102 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: that you were looking for, did it help the loneliness 103 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: at all? 104 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I guess temporarily, right. 105 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: Did it help it in any meaningful long term way? 106 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: No? No, not at all. 107 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: What do you think would solve that issue in a 108 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: long term way? 109 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna start going to therapy tomorrow. Oh yeah, 110 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: and uh, I really want to find the root of this. 111 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: I think it's like some childhood you know. What, do 112 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: you want to hear my elvis impression? I have a 113 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: really good elvis impression. 114 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: Is your elvis impression related to what you were about? 115 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: What you is your impression not in any way, shape 116 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: or form related to this? 117 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: No, not at all. But I know I don't want to. 118 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to hear I 119 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: don't want to hear it right now. And that's if 120 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about this anymore. 121 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: No, I'm okay with talking about this. 122 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you don't have to. You sound like 123 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: you don't want to. That's why you brought up doing anl. 124 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. I just 125 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: I want to keep talking about it. 126 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: Why did you bring up are you looking at the 127 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: chat right now? 128 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: No? No, not at all. 129 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Why did you bring up doing an Elvis impression? 130 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: A really good Elvis impression? 131 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: Why did you bring up doing an Elvis impression? 132 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 4: You know? 133 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: I I think there is some roote contribution of my 134 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: love for Elvis and my desire to be Elvis and 135 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: this romantization of he got all the women that he wanted, 136 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: and I guess I want to be Elvis. Well, baby 137 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: left me. Well I found a new place to Dwell, 138 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: we'll let's tell it be a little bit. 139 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: I hate this, Sacha, please stop, please stop. Okay, So 140 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna go to therapy tomorrow? 141 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go to therapy tomorrow. 142 00:08:53,800 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Okay, how many? That's good. It's good that you're you're 143 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: taking some kind of initiative to to deal with this. 144 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so. 145 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 146 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: What's your name Sancha. Is there any anything? Did you 147 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: get tested for herpes afterwards? 148 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: No? No, I haven't. 149 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: You haven't gotten Sancho. Did you have sex with anyone 150 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: before getting tested for herpes? Mhm, sa, go get tested 151 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: for herpes? Man sitting here on the Sancho, Sancho, you're 152 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: sitting here on the phone trying to do a geo, 153 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: trying to do an Elvis impression for a gecko right now, right, 154 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: you should go get tested. 155 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 2: It's a really good impression. 156 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I know a Sancho. Is there anything else you 157 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: want to say to the people of the computer before 158 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: we go? 159 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? I have a question, GAK. If I started twitch 160 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: streaming in a fish costume and I labeled myself at 161 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: the well being fish, would you would you? Would you 162 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: assume me for stealing your image or maybe that would 163 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: encourage you to have me on your show? 164 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: No that I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I don't think I 165 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: would do either of those two things. I would probably, 166 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't do anything in response to that. 167 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: Really, you don't what would be the first step in 168 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: becoming the well. 169 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling, Sancho. I'll talk to you. 170 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you soon. It actually wasn't that bad 171 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: of an Elvis impression. I don't really know. I mean, 172 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: I've listened to hound Dog and Viva Las Vegas, but 173 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: I guess in his like I haven't like listened to 174 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: any interviews with him. I haven't seen that movie, so 175 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what he says. I don't have 176 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: a great frame of reference, but for the frame of 177 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: reference I do have it it wasn't that bad. Is 178 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: spontaneously doing elvis impressions just maybe a symptom of herpes. 179 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: Let's fact check that too, while we're fat we don't. 180 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's true. There's no basis in it, 181 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying while we fact check things, let's 182 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: fact check that as well. Hello, how's it going, Josh. 183 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: You have been on the line. You've been on hold 184 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: for three hours? 185 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? Just about What have. 186 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: You been doing while you've been on hold for three hours? 187 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: Honestly? Funny enough, while I've been listening to you and 188 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: playing this game called Vampire Survivors, I just got really 189 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 3: into it. 190 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: Says here that you wanted to call in because you're 191 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: a vampire rapper and you wanted to talk about that. 192 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's why it was funny. I was playing 193 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: that game. 194 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: How does one become a vampire rapper? 195 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: Well, first I became a vampire and then the rapper 196 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: thing just kind of followed that. 197 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: I was I was wondering which one was first, Well, 198 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: a vampire rap Well, actually, I'm thinking here, it would 199 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: make kind of more sense for you to be have 200 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: become a rapper a rapper first, and then become a 201 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: vampire because you're a rap. You're a vampire rapper, not 202 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: a rapper vampire. The second thing is like the main thing, 203 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: right like you are you are a rapper, and vampire 204 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: is the type of rapper you are, whereas if you 205 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: were by trade a vampire, but you are a rapping 206 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying right now? 207 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? That does make a lot of sense. 208 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: Well, actually the truth is none of this makes sense, 209 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: but we're gonna roll with it anyway. What is a 210 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: vampire around? 211 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: I am a rapper. I started making music in like 212 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, and I mostly rapped about vampire shenanigans. 213 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: How did you get into like, okay, so walk me 214 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: through this. You are a vampire or you just fuck 215 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: with vampires? 216 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: I fuck with vampires heavily. If I could be a vampire, 217 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: I would be. And as far as it goes, you 218 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: know what, I'm just gonna say, I am a vampire. 219 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking back. I don't know why I asked 220 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: you if you're a vampire, because vampires aren't real. But 221 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe you like, I mean, on 222 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: who am I fuck me? Who am I to say? 223 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: Who's real and who's not? A You say you are 224 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: something I'm not gonna be. 225 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: I mean, people give names to monsters. Monsters can be 226 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 3: a lot of things throughout history. Vampires have always been 227 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 3: in uh in history, throughout every culture, you know some 228 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: kind of vampire or another. So I feel like it's 229 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: a staple throughout history and society. 230 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: Why a vampire? You said that if you could be one, 231 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: you would be one. I don't think I would say 232 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: the same. But why would you choose to be a 233 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: vampire as opposed to a human? 234 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you want to live forever? 235 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: Young? 236 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: No? 237 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to fucking lift forever. This's horrible. That 238 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: was a very vampire. 239 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: Last well, it hasn't. It hasn't been the best for 240 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: me lately, but at the same time, I still i'd 241 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: kick it a little bit longer. 242 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: See this is even more interesting to me. You your life, 243 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: according to you, has it even been good? And yet 244 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: you want to live it forever. 245 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I've never really been like a religious person, right, 246 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: I'm not convinced there's something after death. And I do 247 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: enjoy life, I always have, even when it gets shitty, 248 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: but I don't want to let it go. So maybe 249 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: it's like a death complex thing. 250 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: You're like reverse suicidal. 251 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe you could say that. When I was younger, 252 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: I used to be more on the opposite of that, 253 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: very suicidal. And maybe I'm trying to hold on to 254 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: life or trying to get more out of it. 255 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: I like that, what do you, okay, tell me this 256 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: in the in living forever? What what could you do 257 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: that you can't just do right now? 258 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: Honestly, just the biggest thing is I feel like I'm 259 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: wasting time when I'm just spending time doing stuff that 260 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: I want to do, like like playing video games or 261 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: listening to the Gecko Talk. Lately, I've been like, you know, 262 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: listening to podcasts when I do the dishes, something that 263 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: I can I feel like I'm doing something productive while 264 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: I'm listening to stuff. I wish I had all the 265 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: time in the world that I could just not worry 266 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: about about life slipping away. 267 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: Well, okay, this is why I'm asking, so life is 268 00:16:53,120 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: slipping away. On a second, secondly, basis, what do you 269 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: want to do with it? What I mean, life's only 270 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: valuable because you decide to wake up and get out 271 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: of bed and do anything, or you know, at least 272 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: look at stuff, at least feel a lie like what 273 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: do you what do you intend to do with this life? 274 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: Or desire to do? I have a few goal just 275 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: do right now. Please let me hear the goals. 276 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: I'm working on him right now. But one, I want 277 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: to be happy, which I feel like I am a 278 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: lot of days, but not every day. I want to 279 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: make sure that I wake up happy. And I just 280 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: want to get out of bed. And I was actually 281 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: listening to your podcast with Baby No Money the other 282 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: day and he said something that when people ask him 283 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 3: what it's like to do what he does, he tells 284 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: him that he can't wait to get out of bed 285 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: every day. And I used to be like that, but 286 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: lately I've been wanting to sleep an extra hour as 287 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 3: long as I can before, I like get up to 288 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: go to work, and I missed wanting to like wake 289 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 3: up to take like the day and fucking like seize it. 290 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: What do you think changed between now and when you 291 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: used to wake up wanting to seize the day. 292 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: Honestly, a lot, a lot has changed. I don't know 293 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: exactly what it is. I'm a father, I am am 294 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: a young father. I had my daughter when I was 295 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: seventeen and I'm twenty four now, so she's seven years old. 296 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 3: Having to grow up to be responsible for that, that's 297 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: a whole other, whole other, you know, beast on its own. 298 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: But at the same time, like my daughter is one 299 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 3: of the reasons that I remembered why I wanted to 300 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 3: get out of bed in the morning. But I've been 301 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 3: working a lot more lately. I switched my job. That 302 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: was part of like what I put in the call notes, 303 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: I didn't really switch my job. I kind of lost 304 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: my job at the place I was working at, and 305 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 3: I really loved my job. And it's a lot different 306 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 3: working like for a corporate business versus working for someone 307 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: that you like personally know, you feel more expendable. I'm 308 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: talking a lot. 309 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean, this is you're a lot more 310 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: than It's funny because I came into this thinking that 311 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: I was going to learn about vampires and rappers, but 312 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm learning more about Josh. 313 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 4: Uh. 314 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad to hear that. 315 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: So so tell me these goals that you have you 316 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: want to wake up? Have you want to wake up happen? Okay, Yeah, 317 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: that's a goal. That's that's thesis. That's a good thesis. 318 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: When's the last time you woke up happy? 319 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: Like probably? Well, I mean this morning, I didn't wake 320 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: up sad, but I still slept in for for a while. 321 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: I So, I work at Spirit Halloween now and we just, 322 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know what that is. It's 323 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 3: like a halloween store. Yeah yeah, So we're like seasonal. 324 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 3: So at the end of the season, we have to 325 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: like pack up all the walls and put them in 326 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: trucks and shit like that, and they're like really heavy walls. 327 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 3: And I've been fucking I closed down like three different 328 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: stores this year, so I'm I'm been like tired, and 329 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: this is my first like week off. 330 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 5: In a minute. 331 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: So I just kind of slept in this morning a 332 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: little bit and that was good. But I remember last 333 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: week specifically, I did wake up and just like wanted 334 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: to get the day going and got out of bed, 335 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: like had some coffee, and that was refreshing. 336 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: When you did your interview for Spirit Halloween, did you 337 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: mention the wrapping vampire stuff, because I feel like that 338 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: would have been the thing that sealed the deal. 339 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: I started rapping as a vampire like the first year 340 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: after I started to work at Spirit. 341 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: Actually, ah, the chicken came before. 342 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 6: The egg, yeah, in that case. But then that that 343 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 6: led into like my next job. The thing that I 344 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 6: was that I just kind of lost was my first 345 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 6: boss at Spirit Halloween. She like stopped being working at 346 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 6: Spirit that year and went to go open this oddity 347 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 6: shop and she like called her team from Spirit and 348 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 6: was like, who wants to help me set this up? 349 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 6: And I like showed up to help paint the walls 350 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 6: and everything and like help get those. 351 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: Already selling, like you were working selling teeth and skulls 352 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: and shit. 353 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: Well that's what it turned into. I like got my 354 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 3: foot in the door there, and then she really liked 355 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 3: me and my boss and I just like stuck around 356 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: and started working there, and yeah, that turned into human 357 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 3: skeletons like we had a face in a jar for 358 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 3: a long time. We called her miss Jackson. 359 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: I love I love like that. You like the hierarchy 360 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: is that you go if you get, If you get 361 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: really good at selling fake faces and fake skeletons and shit, 362 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: you graduate just getting to sell real ones. 363 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: I always thought that was the irony of my life. 364 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 3: And I went from selling like fake skeletons, that's selling. 365 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: You want. 366 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: And then you recently got like the shop. 367 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: Yes, sadly, I mean like it's a it's a really 368 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: niche subject to open a shop on and like our 369 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 3: location in uh, Pennsylvania isn't the you know, the most popping, 370 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: so just like the hours weren't really there, and it's 371 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: it's really sad. I mean, I've absolutely loved it there, 372 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: and I know my boss would keep me if she could, 373 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 3: but she just can't really afford it. So that's a 374 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: whole other kind of sad thing. But honestly, what I 375 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: like earned, what I learned working there is so much more. 376 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: I really am going to take this stuff with me 377 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: for the rest of my life. And honestly, I met 378 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 3: the person that got me in the studio for the 379 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: first time at working at the oudity shop. It was 380 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 3: my boss's cousin came in and he was like a 381 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: metalhead and is like in a band and is a 382 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: professional musician and shit. And I told him I was 383 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: a rapper and showed him some of my stuff and 384 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 3: he was like, I got to get you in the studio. 385 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 3: So that's how I like went from recording in my 386 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 3: bedroom to recording in like a real studio. I had 387 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: my first like live show through people I met there. 388 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 3: So like everything's kind of been progressing since, like I 389 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: first started my first job at Spirit. 390 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: So, Josh, what are you going to do now that 391 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: you have been let go from the autist shop? What 392 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: is your next step? 393 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: So that's kind of the thing I called about someone 394 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 3: at uh so Spirit is owned by Spencer's, and someone 395 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: at Spencer's wanted me to go be like an assistant 396 00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: manager at Spencer's and I and like, that's I know 397 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 3: what I'm falling back on. I already like them. 398 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: Close to in in in genre place. There are some there. 399 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 3: The main thing that I'm kind of like iffy about 400 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 3: is I'm I've been like the only job I ever 401 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: really worked with retail. I worked retail for like the 402 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: past five years. It was definitely different when I didn't 403 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: work for such like a corporate thing and it was 404 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: more like a you know, like a brick and mortar place. 405 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: And I'm not sure if I want to keep doing retail, 406 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 3: what would you like to do? I want to move 407 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: somewhere a little bit warmer, maybe like somewhere by a 408 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: beach or that's like an hour drive from a beach, 409 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 3: And I want to keep focusing on music. It like, 410 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 3: I really love making music and music videos. And I 411 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: remember I was happiest when I was just making music 412 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: videos and I would try to make one a month 413 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: and make sure I got it out by like the 414 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: end of the month, and it kept me on like 415 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: a really good schedule, and like I had this work 416 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: ethic that like I felt like I was working for myself. 417 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: So so let's talk about let's talk about this. Let's 418 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: talk about this real quick. You know, usually my my 419 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: personal feelings on this stuff. It it it gets a 420 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: little wonky when you have a kid, because if you 421 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: didn't have a kid, I'd be like, go because if 422 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: you didn't have a kid, you could just go be 423 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: homeless on a beach and pick up like a food 424 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 1: that washes in into the sand and then make your 425 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: music and you'd be fucking fine. You know you can 426 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: do that. That's a beautiful I think about that a lot, 427 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: and it's a beautiful. But you have a child and 428 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: so you do have a degree of responsibility here to 429 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, take care of the child. So what how 430 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: how has how has it been in fulfilling that responsibility. 431 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 3: I'm not doing bad. I I live with my girlfriend 432 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: and my daughter in her own apartment. It's I'm able 433 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: to afford it. But I'm only able really to afford 434 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: it because we both work jobs. So that's definitely something 435 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: that you know, I need to That's kind of why 436 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: I already signed up for the Spencers, because you know, 437 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: I like, I need a paycheck still that's more than 438 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 3: just what I'm getting from music right now. 439 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: Okay, But uh. 440 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: So, you know, ideally I'd like to live a life 441 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: where I just don't have to work uh retail position anymore, 442 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: or if I did, it wouldn't be like every day 443 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: of the week and be like part time and then 444 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: also focus on like art stuff. 445 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: So Josh, I mean, I'll tell you this, I do believe. 446 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you have an extra cog in the machine 447 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: here and the fact that you have a daughter. But 448 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: I do believe that you can find a balance between 449 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: these three pillars of your life. The job that you 450 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: need to work to make money, the child that you 451 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: need to support and spend time with, and the musical 452 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: career that you need to pursue. 453 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: Happy. 454 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: Do you believe if you find harmony between those three 455 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: things that you will be happy? 456 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely? I think that's that's. 457 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: My main Now, now, all right, now, let me throw 458 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: you this one. Do you believe that in the mere 459 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: pursuit of harmony between those three things you can be happy? 460 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: Because if you're not happy on the journey, you ain't 461 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna be happy with the destination. 462 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can at least I can at least definitely 463 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: have some good days in between. And that's I mean, 464 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: that's what I'm working on, is is waking up happier 465 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: on the pursuit good as well as the destination. 466 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: You know, good, And it's never gonna be perfect. It's 467 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: never gonna be perfect. I'm trying on a bunch of 468 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: shit myself, and you know, it's it's never perfect. You know, 469 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: sometimes you got to ride the roller coaster and you 470 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: might just be wired in some fucking way where, like 471 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, Maybe this is a maybe 472 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: this's a dangerous thing to say, but you might be 473 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: wired and some way where your depression is inevitable, but 474 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: also your happiness is inevitable and you just have to 475 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: take the ying and yang of life for whatever way 476 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: it is. You know what I'm saying. 477 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: I do get exactly what you're saying, and that that 478 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense. You say you're not a 479 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: real therapist, but some stuff gets through. 480 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: How do I By the way, before we go, do 481 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: you have a connected spirit Halloween that I can start 482 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: doing my Gecko costumes at so I can finally make 483 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: some money off of this shit. 484 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll text my district manager for you. 485 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: Okay, beautiful Josh, is there anything else you want to 486 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: say to the people that computer it before you go? 487 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: I found you on TikTok a couple of months ago. 488 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: I've been watching the YouTube videos listening to the podcast. 489 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: I really like yourself. This is my first time actually 490 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: calling in, so I'm glad I got through. But uh, 491 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: check me out on Spotify or check out my YouTube videos. 492 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: You can all right, not so fast? So fast, not 493 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: so fast, not so fast? You rap for us right now? 494 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: I want to hear a rap? 495 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: All right? 496 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: What's okay? 497 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: Do you free? Hold on? Hold on? 498 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: What do you want to style? 499 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: Or do you do you freestyle? Or do you just 500 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: do songs? 501 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: I used the freestyle. I just write my stuff lately, though. 502 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: Would you freestyle right now? Or is that too much? 503 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: Oh god, uh no, you're gonna have to check me out. 504 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: All right? 505 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: Spin us some bars? 506 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: I just uh yeah, okay, do you want to hear 507 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 3: my I have a song that has like five hundred 508 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: thousand plays? Do you want to hear that one? 509 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: I'll hear like, let's just hear, let's hear like the 510 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: first verse of it. 511 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: All right, I'm just gonna do something else. My latest, 512 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 3: my latest vampire bars were something like, you keep squirming, 513 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: it's no wonder when my teeth hurting. I keep slipping, 514 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 3: so there's nothing left to bleed, bringia, nothing left to see, 515 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: and there's nothing left to me either. I'm peace certain 516 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: that I think it's time to leave with your packing 517 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: up your things, and it's time the best in peace 518 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: with you. But that was the end of the song. 519 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: That was That was pretty spooky. 520 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: You made me too. 521 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: Nervous vampires the number four higher? 522 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: Yes, what, thank you for remembering? 523 00:32:54,360 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Josh, love you get take care brother. Hello? Hello, Hi? 524 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: Who is this car? Carson? It says here that you 525 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: are with Tiffany, your girlfriend. 526 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: That's correct, Yes, sir. 527 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: Tiffany there? 528 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 4: Hi? 529 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: How are you Tiffany? 530 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 7: I'm all right? How are you? 531 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm good? Can I can I bring up what it 532 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: says that you guys wanted to talk about? Where do 533 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: you guys want to tell me? 534 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, you can bring it. 535 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: Up, all right. It says here that you want to 536 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: discuss you guys reconciling after Tiffany cheated on Carson. 537 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I got a little drunk, did some stuff 538 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 4: I shouldn't have done, and cheated on him. 539 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, sadly. 540 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: Uh how do you How do you feel about that? Carson? 541 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of pissed, and uh, you know. 542 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 3: She wasn't. 543 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 6: Uh. 544 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 5: I kind of want to like break up, but we 545 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 5: have a lease together and you know, responsibilities and bills 546 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 5: and ship to pay. So uh, I don't know. I 547 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 5: don't know how to really because I just found out today. 548 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure it out myself. 549 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: You just found this out today? 550 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, today. 551 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 5: Came up to me and was like, uh, I got 552 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 5: something to tell you that that happened last night? 553 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so. 554 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: So so definitely this happened last night, Yes, sir, it did. Okay. 555 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: How long you guys been together? 556 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 3: For? 557 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 5: Three years? 558 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 559 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 3: So long? 560 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 561 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: So, I mean, Tiffany, what what kind of inspired you 562 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: to do what you did? 563 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 7: I guess I just. 564 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: Get attracted to other people at times when I've been 565 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 4: drinking and doing some stuff I shouldn't have been doing, 566 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: and sadly a little bit of some powder which's found 567 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 4: in our lifle bars around here. 568 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: You said power. What is it about power that you said? 569 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: No powder? Powder? 570 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: She's powder? Okay, okay, okay, yes, yes, that's. 571 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: Uh. 572 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 5: You think I should get to sleep with another girl? Right, 573 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 5: That's that makes it even? 574 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: Right? 575 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 5: Then we go about our day. 576 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: Is that is that something that you guys have been discussing? 577 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 4: No? 578 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 5: No, no, I just that just came off the top 579 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 5: of my head yourself, Yeah, that did just come out the. 580 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 7: Doping his head. 581 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, I'm not I don't I don't have 582 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: any What what do you think about that, Tiffany. 583 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 7: Well, personally, I do not think that to rights or 584 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 7: too wrong to make it right. 585 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: What's the same you do too wrong s don't make 586 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: it right? 587 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 7: Yes, I don't really agree with it, but well that 588 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 7: would make him feel better and stay with. 589 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: Me than. 590 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 3: H. 591 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: What about money, Tiffany? What about money? 592 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 593 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 5: I'm not kidding, Tiffany. No, I'm just kidding. 594 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: No, you don't Okay, okay, okay, everyone, everyone, everyone, Everyone 595 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: calmed down. Everyone calmed down, Everyone calm down for a second. Okay, Carson, 596 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: tell me, honestly, tell me honestly, what if if anything? 597 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: The answer could be nothing, What if anything do you 598 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: truly feel Tiffany could do to get back into your 599 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: good graces? 600 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 5: Uh? I guess give me the mock code to her 601 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 5: phone and just promise it won't happen again for being honest, Yeah. 602 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: You want the lock code to her phone? 603 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: Maybe not that. 604 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 5: Okay, we can just look past it and move on. Yeah, 605 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 5: that's probably the best idea. 606 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: You want to move You want to look past it 607 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: and move on. 608 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 609 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, but if it happens again, you know, then she's out. 610 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: Right, Tiffany. Can I ask you a question, sir, Tiffany, 611 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: is this the first time this has happened in the 612 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: three year relationship? 613 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 4: Yes it is, Okay, I feel terrible about it. 614 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: And you guys share a lease together, Yes we did. 615 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: How long has that been a thing? 616 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 5: Oh? Not eight months? 617 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: Now? 618 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you something. I'm gonna ask both 619 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: of you guys this question. By the way, you guys 620 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: aren't fucking with me right now, are you? 621 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 5: No? 622 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: Like you would tell like you? You would tell me 623 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: the truth if you guys. 624 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 5: Were no, I, well, you are a real counselor. I 625 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 5: would go to like I'm not, you know, marriage counselor 626 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 5: or some shit if we had money. 627 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, wait, so you would go to a 628 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: real marriage counselor if it was if you were fucking 629 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: with me? 630 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 5: No, wait, I don't understand. No, if I had money, Yeah, 631 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 5: if I had money, I would be going. I would 632 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 5: go to like a marriage counselor. 633 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: All right, I'm ask both of you guys the same question. Uh, Carson, 634 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: tell me in these past three years and currently, what 635 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: kinds of thing? What this relationship as a whole, Has 636 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: it been a positive force in your life? And if so, 637 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: in what way has it been a positive force in 638 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: your life. 639 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 5: You asked, that's the Carson, right, Yeah, I'm probably. I 640 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 5: mean it's been positive. Yeah, uh, it's been positive in 641 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 5: my life. I think in our life together, I should say, yeah, 642 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 5: you know, we've got our own plate. Uh, got a 643 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 5: little dog, no kids, luckily, but you know that's not 644 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 5: what she wants, so who knows about that? But yeah, no, no, 645 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 5: I think overall has been very positive. 646 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, Tiffany, what how do you feel? Do 647 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: you do you believe that the relationship has been a 648 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: positive force in your life? 649 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 7: Absolutely? He has made me grow as a person, and 650 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 7: you need become a better person. I feel very guilty 651 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 7: from what I did. 652 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 5: Mhm, why would you be chuckling? And oh that's fucked. 653 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 5: So she don't here to understand the gravity of it. 654 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: She doesn't. 655 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 7: Mh, Well what happens whenever you get a little bit 656 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 7: too drunk. But yeah, I will forever feel guilty and 657 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 7: just continue to ask for forgiveness from a good dear lord. 658 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if the forgiveness is in the hands 659 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: of the Lord here, but. 660 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I forgive you though that it's all good. 661 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 5: I'll forgive you. 662 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: Thank you, Okay. Cool. I guess we settled that. 663 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 5: Yes, thank you very much. You know, I don't think 664 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 5: none of my friend's going to help me more than 665 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 5: you could have. 666 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: So beautiful. So anything you guys want to say to 667 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go. 668 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 5: On the computer, We love you computer people. 669 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 7: We love every one of you, and thank you for 670 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 7: your help. 671 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. 672 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 2: Have a good night. 673 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 3: I'm getting into divorce, all right. 674 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: That was totally fake, right, that was a fake, stupid 675 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: waste of time. You know, it's fight normally, I don't 676 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: care about the fake calls, but that was that was 677 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: pretty annoying. I don't know, I don't know. I don't 678 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: know that was really I don't I guess. I guess 679 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: hopefully it was fake. Hopefully it was fake. But then again, actually, 680 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on. I do have an 681 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: important detail to reveal about that call that might change 682 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: everyone's perspective on it. Both of them are from Florida, 683 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 1: so maybe it was real. 684 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 3: Hello is this the get. 685 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: Yeah? Who is this? 686 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 2: Hello? 687 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 3: Hi? This is Chase. 688 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: How are you doing, Chase? 689 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 3: I'm right, how are you Chase? 690 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: It's a hear that you're a triplet and you believe 691 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: that your two brothers do not respect you. 692 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 3: That's true. 693 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: Why do you feel like they don't respect you? 694 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 3: I've kind of always felt like that, uh, sort of 695 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 3: like they were. Yeah, it's hard to I feel like 696 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 3: it always kind of comes off like I'm like, like, 697 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 3: there's it's just just you know, it's just how brothers are. 698 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 3: But I've always felt like they were. They were sort 699 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 3: of like my brother my my my bullies growing. 700 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 2: Up and. 701 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 3: When we got older or not not so much like 702 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 3: them directly, but more so like their friends. And they 703 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: sort of encouraged it. And anytime I've brought that up, uh, 704 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 3: they kind of just ignore it and and kind of 705 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 3: just in general, I just think that they don't respect me, 706 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 3: you know, they just Yeah. 707 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: Have they always not respected you throughout your life? 708 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it's kind of how I feel. Yeah. 709 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 1: So do they live how? Like often do you really 710 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 1: even see them? 711 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 3: So I'm twenty eight, so I haven't. No, I don't. 712 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 3: They live in different states now. I don't see them 713 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 3: that often. It's mostly just for holidays. But like, you know, yeah, 714 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 3: I definitely like I feel like I don't really want 715 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 3: a relationship with them, and in many ways, I don't 716 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 3: really like I don't talk to them at all really, 717 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 3: but I do see them at the holidays. It's kind 718 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: of why I'm calling, is you know, I have to 719 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 3: see them coming up soon for Thanksgiving. Yeah, I just 720 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 3: I feel like oftentimes I feel like it should be 721 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 3: easy to just ignore them and kind of, you know, 722 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 3: do my own thing. But then if they you know, 723 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 3: they'll if one of them just kind of tries to 724 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 3: have even just a casual conversation, like it can it 725 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 3: can turn into a fight. It's like a really stupid fight. 726 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 3: And even then, like I just don't really want to 727 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 3: talk to them in general. But then I kind of 728 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 3: come off like like the asshole because I'm like brushing 729 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 3: them off or ignoring them or whatever. And I feel 730 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 3: like I don't really know the right way to handle it. 731 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, do you respect them? 732 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 733 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 3: That's a good question. I guess probably not, because I 734 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 3: feel like they bullied me, you know, and like they 735 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 3: never any like I said, like anytime, like I've brought 736 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 3: that that up, like they've just kind of brushed that off, 737 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 3: like they don't they don't even really acknowledge that that like, yeah, 738 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 3: that like this is the way I feel like they 739 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 3: just don't really care. So I guess, yeah, I guess 740 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 3: I certainly. I mean I can't I can't really respect that, 741 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 3: you know. 742 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So is this an issue for you at 743 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: all outside of just the holidays? Like, is this some 744 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: kind of macro thing that just bothers you or is 745 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:41,240 Speaker 1: it mainly an issue regarding the holidays? 746 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 3: I think that it's it's most Uh, I guess I 747 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 3: have to deal with it most like like mostly yeah, 748 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 3: like like during the holidays, and yeah, just like any 749 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 3: other time that I have to like kind of you know, 750 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 3: be around them, around like family with them. 751 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: So, you know, the relationships are tough because you have 752 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: no control over them. You only have, well you have. 753 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say you don't have no control. You 754 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: have the fifty percent of control you have, your half 755 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 1: you have you There's like, there's no point in us 756 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,919 Speaker 1: talking about what you feel as though your brothers may 757 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: owe you, or how we feel like they should be, 758 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: or how we wish they would be, or any of 759 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: that shit. It's not you know, especially now considering that 760 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: you've told me that you've even expressed to them your issues, 761 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: because that's part of what's in your control, right, is 762 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: to express the issues you have, and you've done that 763 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: and they haven't been receptive. 764 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've tried. 765 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: So Okay, now I feel like we're looking at all right, 766 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: what are our options? What can we do on our 767 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: end to achieve the objective? Which now maybe well, actually 768 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to assume anything. What 769 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: is the objective? Is the objective to attempt to build 770 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: a better relationship with them? Or is the objective to 771 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: get through the damn holidays without fighting? How would you 772 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: describe the objective? 773 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 3: I think that I'm not interested in a in yeah, 774 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 3: building any kind of relationship with them, at least at 775 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 3: this point. So yeah, probably probably the latter, probably, Yeah, 776 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 3: just kind of like getting through the holidays without fighting 777 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 3: with them, all. 778 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,760 Speaker 1: Right, So the objective is to get through the holidays 779 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: without fighting them. You say that sometimes you try to 780 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: talk to them and it ends up in a fight. 781 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: Is that correct? In those situations where you try to 782 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: talk to where you where you talk to them and 783 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: it ends up in a fight. What degree of that 784 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: ending up in a fight can you take responsibility for? Like, 785 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: if they make a comment to you that's unsavory, do 786 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: you fight back with a comment of your own. 787 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I think, if I'm really being fair, 788 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 3: probably probably fifty. 789 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: Okay. So, like if we took our own ego out 790 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: of it, and we were just like I just want 791 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: to pick the path that leads to the path of 792 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: least resistance, we'll call it what path leads to the 793 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: least amount of conflict. Even if that path involves me 794 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: sitting there and quote taking it when my brother says 795 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: something annoying to me about my life, I will withstand 796 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: that for the sake of the greater good, the sake 797 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: of my greater objective, which is to not engage in conflict, 798 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: and actually to not sit there and take it. To 799 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: throw an insult back, would even if it feels good 800 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: in the moment, be a detriment to my own goals, 801 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: and so it's not the best thing for me to do. 802 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: So think about that next time you are in a 803 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: casual conversation and just be mindful of like, this is 804 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: my personal objective is to get through this without any conflict. 805 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: What is the best way to do that, not what 806 00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: is emotionally fueling my choices right now, Because if you're 807 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: based off of what's emotionally fueling your choices right now, 808 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna make choices that are going to result in conflict. 809 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 810 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it does. 811 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? 812 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think that is. I think 813 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna try to to to take that path 814 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 3: to to think about that throughout the next couple of 815 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 3: weeks the rest of the year living. You know, in general, 816 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 3: I think so oftentimes, like you said, I think, uh uh, 817 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 3: you know, separating taking your ego away from it. I 818 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 3: think in many ways, I think my ego does kind 819 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 3: of overtake me, and I think I just can't help 820 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 3: myself but to kind of say something. And I think 821 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 3: that like not saying something is going to let them win. 822 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: Well, let me give you a different I have to 823 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: bring up a different perspective on that, this idea of 824 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: letting them win. What if we phrased it like this, 825 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: your you, your is tell me truly tell me honestly 826 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 1: is your objective honestly to get through this without any conflict. Look, 827 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: if you want to stick it to them and that's 828 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: your objective, you can tell me, like, what really is 829 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 1: in your heart to want to do over the holidays? 830 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,280 Speaker 1: What do you genuinely desire you? Do you genuinely desire peace? 831 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 3: I think I think at one point in my life 832 00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 3: I would have told you, yeah, I want to stick 833 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 3: it to At this point, no, I just I'm done. 834 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 3: I've you know, I've I've tried sticking it to them. 835 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 3: I've tried, I've tried everything. I've tried ignoring them, and 836 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 3: I just I don't know anymore. I don't know what 837 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,399 Speaker 3: to do anymore. I just want to get through it 838 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 3: without causing any problems. 839 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: All Right, You're twenty eight years old. You've tried as 840 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,919 Speaker 1: hard as you can to make up with them, You've 841 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: stuck it to them. You're tired now. You love your 842 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: mom and your rest of your family. That's why you 843 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: show up for Thanksgiving? Right, Yeah? And so your objective, 844 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 1: and I'm asking this is a question, your objective is peace? Truly? 845 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 846 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so you win if there is peace, that's your 847 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 1: win condition. 848 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 3: I guess, I mean, I guess I'm kind of regretting 849 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 3: that the winning freak, because I don't even really look 850 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 3: at it as like I'm winning as much as just. 851 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,439 Speaker 2: Well, no, we can, we can. 852 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 1: We can stay in that. We can. We here's the 853 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 1: thing we can stay in that idea, you win if 854 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: there's peace. 855 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 3: M So, because I just I just don't want to 856 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 3: like I'm not trying to like it's not like I'm 857 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 3: like I'm like trying to like beat them, you know 858 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 3: what I mean. Like, it's just like you're not trying. 859 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: You're not trying, You're not trying to be This is 860 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: not a this is not a win. This is not 861 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: a win over any of them. You were not going 862 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: after peace to stick it to them. You were going 863 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: after peace as a win for your own corrector is 864 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: your own victory. And so when you're engaged, and so 865 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: when you're talking to your brother and he says some 866 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: ship that pisces you off, and you want and to 867 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: hurl something back at him because you don't want to 868 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: let him win. What you're actually doing is you don't 869 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: let him win when you take the ultimate step back 870 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: and you go, let me throw my ego out of it, 871 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: let me throw the idea of letting anyone win out 872 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 1: of it. And I just go, I have my own 873 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 1: personal objective for nobody else but me of having peace 874 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:36,439 Speaker 1: this weekend because I love my family and I'm going 875 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: to take the steps and the actions required to achieve 876 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: that objective, because that's what winning looks like for me. 877 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: And so in that moment, you choose to let it 878 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: slide because if this person is this is like some 879 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 1: I forget, some stoic philosopher said some shit about letting 880 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: people win is actually when you allow them to manipulate 881 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: you emotionally. And so if you allow your brother to 882 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: make you upset to the point where it influences your 883 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,399 Speaker 1: actions and you say something back, that is letting him win. 884 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: When you hold true to your ultimate objective, which is 885 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: to keep the peace. That is when you win. And 886 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 1: that's not a game you're playing with anyone else but yourself. 887 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 888 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that does. I like that, Thank you. 889 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,839 Speaker 1: Are they bigger than you? Can? They can they over 890 00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 1: overpower you physically? 891 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 3: No? I mean like like one, It's like that's not 892 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 3: really like it's not it's never really been like that, 893 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 3: you know it has It's never really been like a 894 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 3: physical like they they beat me up? 895 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: Do you do you have you seen their penises? 896 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 4: Uh? 897 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: No, what do you mean? 898 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 3: No? 899 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 1: They're brothers? 900 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 3: You I mean, I guess probably when I was very young, 901 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 3: Like I'm a triplet yeah, so like we re took. 902 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: Yes, you've seen you've seen that, You've seen their penises. 903 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, do. 904 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: You have a do you have a bigger penis than 905 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: they do? 906 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 2: Sure? 907 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, all right, So if all the stoic philosophy 908 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,439 Speaker 1: crap doesn't work for you, then you know there's that too. 909 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 3: That's true. It's a good point. Thanks Kick, Thanks for 910 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 3: calling Chase, Thank you Gick. 911 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it's the end of the episode and I 912 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about something real quick. It's 913 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: not an ad. Well, I guess it's kind of an ad, 914 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: but just hear me out. Sometimes I put excerpts at 915 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: the end of the podcast from my street interviews that 916 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 1: I've done on my YouTube channel, And today I just 917 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: uploaded a video on my channel that is probably my 918 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 1: favorite thing I've ever made. It's a really fun, really weird, 919 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: really wild vlog that I filmed back in June from 920 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 1: a trip I took to Guatemala completely alone. I went 921 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: there to wander around the streets by myself in full 922 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 1: gecko attire, just to see what would happen, see who 923 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: I could talk to, and I got into a lot 924 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: of weird situations. I interviewed the workers of a Guatemalan McDonald's. 925 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: A guy invited me into his house to eat bread 926 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: made out of shit. I talked to an expat that 927 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: was running from the FBI, and all of this was 928 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: very spontaneous and not planned and just happened as a 929 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: result of me putting myself out there and walking around 930 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: as a gecko just to see what would happen. So 931 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a clip from it real quick, and 932 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: if this video sounds interesting to you, you can watch 933 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: the full thing on my YouTube channel YouTube dot com 934 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 1: slash Lyle forever. The title of the video is going 935 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 1: to a foreign country alone as a gecko. All right, 936 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: here's a clip. So is running from the FBI easier 937 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 1: than you expected it to be? 938 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 3: Oh? 939 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, now they have no jurisdiction And I changed my name, 940 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 8: I changed like my identity. 941 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 1: So you are caught with five kilograms of cocaine? 942 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 8: No, no, no, they com me with way more. But I 943 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 8: could only grab five kilograms. Okay before I got out 944 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 8: of the States. 945 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: What was your life like before you came hand? 946 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 8: Terrible kilograms of go came Yeah, you know, so you 947 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 8: went wrong somewhere when you're doing that you know, smart, 948 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 8: you got a thing right off pokers as at that moment, 949 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 8: had a spiritual experience and I went all the way 950 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 8: back to when I was a child, and I you know, 951 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 8: got back in my body and I was staring at 952 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 8: a butthole. And we found out later there was a 953 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 8: little LSD in the cocaine. 954 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 955 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: What is your relationship with drugs? 956 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 8: Like now a weed, ayahuasca, ceremonialy d MT. 957 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Casually, I'm probably gonna blur your face with all this stuff. 958 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 8: With the FBI stuff. Yeah, oh man, I wanted them 959 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 8: to see it. 960 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole interview was pretty interesting. So again, if 961 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: you want to watch the full vlog of my weird 962 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 1: solo adventure through Guatemala, you can go to YouTube dot 963 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 1: com slash lyle forever l y l e f O 964 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 1: R e v e R. The title of the video 965 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: is going to a foreign country alone as a get go. 966 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: All right, thanks for listening, guys, goes on the line 967 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: taking your phone calls. Nine goes to just teaching you. 968 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 8: You're like, but he's not really an expert.