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Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, We've got NFL

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Speaker 1: draft news. It's coming to d C. Man.

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's not lose Fred, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: All right? We got undrafted free agents? How hard is

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Speaker 1: it to make the team as an undrafted free agent?

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Speaker 1: These guys got great insight on that. They put a

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Speaker 1: lot of undrafted free agents that are good football players.

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Speaker 1: And then can I have your number?

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Speaker 2: Yes, he is eighty two. I'm your top ten. It

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Speaker 2: is twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Time it all starts right now. Welcome to the Command

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Speaker 1: Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot and

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Speaker 1: santanam Osgins and ten. I got some bone to pick

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Speaker 1: with Fred?

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Speaker 2: What you got? So?

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Speaker 1: I said, Fred, you're gonna do the Josh Connolly offensive

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Speaker 1: line challenge And he said he was going to do

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Speaker 1: it jumping out of a pool. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: that'd be pretty cool. I like to see that. And

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Speaker 1: then today I came in and Fred's like my back

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Speaker 1: and so I don't know, like my man is just

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Speaker 1: like seemingly has an endless ability to talk about something.

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Speaker 1: I think in this conversation they'll try to convince me

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Speaker 1: that he's gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: He loves sounding like he can do something. I've been

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Speaker 3: telling us he ride bikes for the last three years.

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Speaker 2: I was about to ride it. Ain't even took a

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Speaker 1: So eve been targeted on the bikes.

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Speaker 4: It ain't I have I watched civilians do the jest.

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Speaker 4: I mean to Josh Connor, it challenging. It's like, don't

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Speaker 4: do it. Like somebody gonna tell someone they like they're

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Speaker 4: literally and they don't know how bad they look.

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Speaker 2: You knew it.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: The best one I saw was the guy that he

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Speaker 1: said it to me. I forget his name, he has

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Speaker 1: his own it's like red zone whatever, and he just

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Speaker 1: like basically just stood up from a knee.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that ain't the same thing. Like, you got

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Speaker 2: to realize this is a three hundred pounds of doing

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Speaker 2: this and for him to.

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Speaker 4: Do it as quick as he did it, Like, I wan,

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Speaker 4: you did shock me on your quickness. I told you

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Speaker 4: should have been a tackle. You should have been a

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Speaker 4: tackle in this league for fifteen years. He doing it

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Speaker 4: at three hundred pounds a quick as he did it. Hey, man,

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Speaker 4: this good stuff. I like it.

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Speaker 2: So I ain't trying it I feel like you could

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Speaker 2: do it though I probably.

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Speaker 3: Can, but man, my knees and the old I'm getting men,

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Speaker 3: it needs.

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Speaker 2: To talk to you. Now. I'll be forty six, is dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can still run around a little bit. He

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Speaker 1: still out some juice.

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Speaker 4: That's the one thing about us old do we get

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Speaker 4: It ain't that we can't do stuff.

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Speaker 2: We just don't want to try trying.

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Speaker 3: Like mentally we like I stopped playing basketball because of that.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jason videotaped it and I was like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I can do I got down and I

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Speaker 1: just just like my body's not right. And he'd like

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Speaker 1: to do like a fifteen minute warmth to get it going.

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Speaker 1: So worked out, but you need to do it. You

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Speaker 1: needn't take take the two takes twos.

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Speaker 2: But you also working and you still got some youthul

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Speaker 2: this about you. You're old.

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Speaker 1: It's me and Towne. So now I still play hockey,

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Speaker 1: you know, still run around like I don't play basketball anymore.

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Speaker 3: But I get scared every time I go to one

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Speaker 2: I say to myself. You know what time to leave

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Speaker 4: We do a back of the American Vent at the

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Speaker 4: and every year we do a speech before it and

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Speaker 4: try to everybody years somebody tears at acl MCL He's

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Speaker 2: Does itch Achilles.

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Speaker 4: And I'm just watching these bankers lay on the ground

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It is like when you cause I do like

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Speaker 1: And some people be like high school, high school? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's been fifteen or twenty years since you've done that,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, you know what I'm gonna do? Sprint?

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Speaker 1: Your body's like not ready, not made for that. You

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Speaker 1: gotta keep it, keep that skill. It's a skill, and

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Speaker 1: you gotta keep the tissues nice. And tolerant. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: So Fred, I'm going to say, you're not going to

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Speaker 4: A'm going to do on my own time. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: come from I come I'm a nineties guy. You know,

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Speaker 4: in the nineties we used to keep secrets. We ain't

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Speaker 4: have to show everything, not show any jobs. Come on

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Speaker 4: the challenge and say I did it and don't show anybody.

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Speaker 3: Oh lord, don't count because you said you're gonna do

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Speaker 3: it out of a pool just so you can look

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Speaker 3: better than them logan, and don't can you.

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Speaker 2: See me jumping out of the water, water, dripping down,

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Speaker 2: scooting back.

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Speaker 3: You ain't even gonna do it. You couldn't go to

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know the one thing about me got no feelings, can't.

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Speaker 1: Be hurt, can't be hurt. So yeah, keeping out for

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Speaker 1: friend Josh Connell challenge. Yeah, I'm excited to see it.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna do I'm excited for him to talk

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Speaker 2: So listen, I like I say, we interviewed Josh Connelly.

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Speaker 4: I feel like he was a great dude, shock that

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Speaker 4: he used to play running back, But when I seen

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Speaker 4: what he did the challenge.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, them running back feet right there.

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Speaker 2: So you know what the.

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Speaker 1: Thing about him is, I feel like you could game

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Speaker 4: Ft Yeah, I'm gonna say, and not lose a step, Like,

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Speaker 2: His quickness is its unbelievable. He's quick to be.

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Speaker 3: One of the first thing that I said when I

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Speaker 3: to emphasize that with him, like or just let it happen,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Certain guys come in here

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Speaker 3: they say, hey, man, I need you like that.

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Speaker 2: That happened to me.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: They tried to force ten ten on me, and I

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Speaker 3: so soon. They tried to force it on me too.

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Speaker 4: Come on, I was like one hundred and cent andy

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Speaker 4: five pound, and they like, we need you to eat

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Speaker 4: bad carbs, Like.

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Speaker 1: When times did you well, what did you end up plannet?

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Speaker 1: Did you one five or.

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Speaker 2: I played at one cent to five for my whole

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Speaker 1: That's the thing, man, it doesn't really it doesn't really matter,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's a it's a thing.

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Speaker 1: But like with him, the only reason I bring it

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Speaker 1: guys like offensive linemen where you're like, you're athletic enough,

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Speaker 1: you could probably get some more ten pounds of like

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Speaker 4: Especially when they try to power when when they try

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Speaker 4: to power rushing, Like, yeah, he gonna have to take

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Speaker 4: that own because that's what everybody see when they see

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Speaker 4: he powered bull rushed him, and they like can he

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Speaker 4: take Yes, he can take it.

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Speaker 2: He just went ready for that, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's him playing on the right side. Really messed up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, so uh yeah, keep talking about Josh Connell

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Speaker 1: because we're excited about him. ROO Community camp is this Friday,

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Speaker 1: so we'll have a show out kind of covering.

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Speaker 2: The football season back. Yeah, people once in the camp

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Speaker 2: starts football season back.

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Speaker 1: Well. It's funny, like we were walking over here from

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Speaker 1: the from our offices to the studio and like they've

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Speaker 1: they're on the field practicing right now.

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Speaker 2: No, they're there, they're there.

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Speaker 1: So it is for them, it's back for us it's back.

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Speaker 2: So the once it warms up a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 2: everything is getting what's the mosquitoes come back? You know

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Friday, we're gonna try and have a live show

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Speaker 6: like from the camp from the field. We're gonna try

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Speaker 6: go live from Rookie Camp there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is great. It's a one day that's live

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Speaker 1: to the media or open to the media, so we'll

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Speaker 1: check that out. And in addition to live events, we

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Speaker 1: have merch incoming. So we always appreciate a good fan

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Speaker 1: input here fan design, so comment or leave a design

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Speaker 1: suggestion at that hawk outside, that hawk outside all one

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Speaker 1: word at gmail dot com. We love to get that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Jason reviews that, Caroline reviews that stuff. Yeah. We got

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Speaker 1: great suggestions for questions from there, and we get great

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Speaker 1: suggestions for merch ideas like.

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Speaker 4: Hal ass that is is how we got that holt

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Speaker 4: that hog outside.

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Speaker 2: And then we got the three stooge your shirt did we.

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Speaker 1: Get Yeah, And so people say, well, then how do

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Speaker 1: I get merched? I can't buy it because we don't

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Speaker 1: sell it. But you know, you get it as you

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Speaker 1: go to live events. So we're doing a live ccpod Friday,

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Speaker 1: May twenty third at Tom's watch Bar Navy Yard. So

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Speaker 1: make sure you guys kind of circle that calendar, circle

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Speaker 1: that Daan in your calendar save. It should be around

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Speaker 1: eight o'clock. I think because we're doing.

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Speaker 4: And all the NAS fans that's already gonna be there,

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Speaker 4: we stop there because I'm gonna try to sneak in

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Speaker 4: the Nats game.

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Speaker 2: That's what I do. I'm gonna make first of.

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Speaker 3: All, that's all He's going for the Glizzys I love.

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Speaker 4: Can we all agree that out of all the sports,

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Speaker 4: baseball has the best foods in the stadium?

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Speaker 2: Can we all agree on that? Like, do y'all want

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Speaker 2: to compe just from from my experience?

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Speaker 1: Jason said, it's true.

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Speaker 5: Your food, of course, Jason, Jason got so happy over there.

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Speaker 2: You see them jumping out and set. It's true for

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Speaker 2: whatever you get that in its cramp cakes, the smell.

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Speaker 3: But I think also it depends on where you're getting

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Speaker 3: it from, because where we have the luxury of getting

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Speaker 3: it from, we wrapped behind home plate. Yeah, we in

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Speaker 3: the we're in the big area where all the foods

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Speaker 3: just like, come on, come on.

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Speaker 1: I messed scraphob. Thank you. So yeah, we want to

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Speaker 2: And you the only one on this panel that's played

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Speaker 4: That is true, you are and it is crazy, right,

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Speaker 2: I know exactly who you top. You know what's crazy

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Speaker 3: For all the years I've been here, Yeah, passing by

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy, and I remember, like our coach

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm like already worried about Fred.

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Speaker 3: So basically, already, let's put that, let's put that milk

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Speaker 7: We're gonna need his shirt, were gonna need it here,

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Speaker 7: gonna come up missing. No, somebody's getting high like this.

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Speaker 7: Do you know it's gonna be a new person pulling

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Speaker 7: They set it up for me.

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Speaker 2: They just need to have a drone following you around.

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Speaker 1: And so before we get into Fred being gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So just to keep it all up a speed.

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Speaker 3: When we do things, whether it's out of town or

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't show up for work. I've been

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Speaker 1: So this is an.

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Speaker 3: Event we ain't gonna be able to keep him away from.

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Speaker 3: So we're called them playing. Now how are we going

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Speaker 2: You give kids say you don't listen at the I'm

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Speaker 8: You imagine I work you like a baby.

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Speaker 4: Listen, they don't know to sit there. Richmond chewed me up,

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Speaker 4: and they gave you a job.

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Speaker 1: Gave me a job, so good breda Freder's joke before

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 4: Hey, this is the thing about it. When I seen that.

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Speaker 4: When I heard it, I was waking. I was woke

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Speaker 2: I just woke up for real.

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Speaker 4: Then when I see that two seven at the end

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Speaker 4: my good walking up there to announce the first round

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Speaker 2: I think they'd ask you to do it. Who else

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Speaker 4: No, this is a tie to bring in the old

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, they won't actually do the first round, Pete. They

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Speaker 4: So the second round. That's perfect cause I went in

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Speaker 4: the second round and is twenty seven. Let's go make

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Speaker 4: this thing ain't happy?

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Speaker 1: All right? If you think Fred should read the second

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Speaker 3: Go back to anything you ever watched him when he's

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Speaker 1: So obviously we're really excited about this, and this is

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, I heard be miss saying maybe a billion,

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Speaker 4: If it's gonna be a million people there, and if

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Speaker 3: Just imagine how something is a billion those rest runs.

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Speaker 8: Like, it's like it was like caulators a million times

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Speaker 4: And everybody looking at hotels the lifting I like to

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Speaker 2: How much is a uber driver gonna make the weekend?

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Speaker 2: How much?

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Speaker 1: Park crazy? Event? Though, bro crazy?

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Speaker 2: You got that's none stop, Like it's none stop.

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Speaker 2: So people that's traveling here, not traveling from.

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Speaker 4: Everything's gonna be packed, like it's gonna be ridiculous, Like

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Speaker 3: So it's just crazy that when you like hearing the

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Speaker 3: they haveing that being being back home in DC. But

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Speaker 3: just think about it, that stadium comes the jobs, different

445
00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,480
Speaker 3: kind of revenue that's gonna be coming out of the city.

446
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be it's gonna be wild.

447
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 4: But it's that one punch right there that just knocks

448
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Speaker 4: it out the park. Like it's a it's more than

449
00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,160
Speaker 4: a three day event. It's it's slotted as a three

450
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Speaker 4: day event, but the two days, yeah, the two days

451
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Speaker 4: before and then the things that come from it is

452
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:04,679
Speaker 4: even too.

453
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Speaker 1: Like you just talked about, like people gotta come stay

454
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Speaker 1: right where they're gonna stay. They're gonna be in hotels

455
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Speaker 1: for a couple of days, they're gonna get eat out

456
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Speaker 1: for a couple days. They're gonna take uber, they're gonna

457
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Speaker 1: see the monuments, Like not only is it here for

458
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Speaker 1: the draft, but there's like a there's a tourist to

459
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Speaker 1: it too that's.

460
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Speaker 2: Already gonna be here.

461
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 3: Correct, So it's gonna be you know, folks was coming

462
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 3: for the Dragon and say, oh no, how about I

463
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:23,640
Speaker 3: just stay.

464
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 2: A little longer, because why do I have a chance

465
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,680
Speaker 2: to visit the money? Why would wouldn't I bring my kids?

466
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 4: Like this is a kid friendly event that happened to

467
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,120
Speaker 4: be a grown up event. I'll tell you what, I'm

468
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Speaker 4: coming down the Potomac River like George Washington.

469
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Speaker 1: Imagine friend dressed up.

470
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about just on the top of that thing,

471
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Speaker 4: coming down there like George.

472
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Speaker 1: Baby, it's gonna be cool, man, that's gonna be a

473
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Speaker 1: lot of fun. I'm not gonna go into d C

474
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Speaker 1: and that's I can help it. But it's gonna be a.

475
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Speaker 2: Cool You're gonna be forced to go into new show.

476
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Speaker 4: You don't have so much media to do, you don't

477
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 4: have so much stuff to do, Like you gotta realized,

478
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 4: that's gonna be nuts stop for us. That's already a

479
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 4: part of the media, and it's gonna be a twenty

480
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Speaker 4: four to seven event.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be We're obviously we're really excited about it,

482
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 1: no doubt. So that's all kind of the housekeeping stuff.

483
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 1: We got, you know, the draft news, we got the

484
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,640
Speaker 1: stadium news. Make sure you check out the website again.

485
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,640
Speaker 1: Show your support for that.

486
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 2: We got merch.

487
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Speaker 1: We got merched. Right the live show on the twenty third,

488
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 1: Fred's got the Josh Connedy Challenge, which he's gonna do

489
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,679
Speaker 1: in his bedroom with nobody watching him tell us that

490
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Speaker 1: he did it. So that's all the things. Now that

491
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Speaker 1: we've gone through all of that housekeeping, I think it's

492
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Speaker 1: important to talk about some football news that we haven't

493
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,640
Speaker 1: talked about. And it's the newest additions to the Washington Commanders,

494
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Speaker 1: and that's the undrafted free agents that we just signed.

495
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Speaker 1: And so a couple of things. Fred Santana, I guess,

496
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Speaker 1: highest level, what is the UDFA, Yeah, right, undrafted rookie

497
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: free agent? Yeah, and they are signed after the draft.

498
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Speaker 1: So they used to be like twelve rounds to the

499
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 1: draft or whatever, yeah, and now after round seven these

500
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Speaker 1: are the guys they signed. And I guess, like to me,

501
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: they're always interesting, they're near and dear to my heart

502
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: because I was the UDFA. Yeah, and so was London Fletcher.

503
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,919
Speaker 1: But the thing that that's crazy, Yeah, it is wild

504
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Speaker 1: that he was an undrafted for me, not so much,

505
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: but for him. Crazy. So how in this process do

506
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Speaker 1: you find a diamond in the rough as a UDFA.

507
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Speaker 3: Before we get ahead or before we get to talking

508
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Speaker 3: about that, do you see the money that these guys

509
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 3: sign up for?

510
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: Now? It's crazy, it is insane.

511
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: So I think I saw it they getting signing bonus.

512
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: I saw like fifteen thousand dollars and I was like

513
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. I read a.

514
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 3: Couple of guys on there we signed two hundred and seventy.

515
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, what damn?

516
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: Now?

517
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Speaker 2: Times to change, That's that's what it is.

518
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Speaker 4: And when I see undrafted free agents, the first thing

519
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 4: come to my mind is just overlooked because you don't

520
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 4: get the attention. Something happens in your process, something happens

521
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 4: in your process where you get sidetracked, you simply get overlooked.

522
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Speaker 2: I always got more respect.

523
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Speaker 4: For undrafted free agents than I do us drafted guys

524
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Speaker 4: because I can only wonder because I was even a

525
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 4: little nervous as a drafted guy when you get into

526
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Speaker 4: a locker room, like I still got to make the team.

527
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 4: So if I was an undrafted guy, like, every night

528
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 4: has to be nerve wrecking, every day has to be

529
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 4: tension felled. Every moment that you play, you grasping on

530
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 4: something that you're trying to hold.

531
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Speaker 2: On to that ain't guaranteed to you. So that respect.

532
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Speaker 2: I remember me and Tonyo piars you to talk all

533
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Speaker 2: the time. We came out together, same draft clad with

534
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Speaker 2: me in Towne, and I would always talk to Tony and I.

535
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Speaker 4: Was like, man, how you feeling today? He was like, man,

536
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 4: feeling like I I'm gonna hurt somebody? Are they gonna

537
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 4: hurt me? Like I got to go out here and

538
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 4: do what I got to do, like mine ain't promised,

539
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 4: And so I took that free agent.

540
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Speaker 2: Mine thought in my head like it.

541
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Speaker 4: Ain't guaranteed for me either, Like that's just the way

542
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,479
Speaker 4: I need to go about it.

543
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: So I've always had the utmost respect for them.

544
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Speaker 4: But I probably would have no hair in my head

545
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Speaker 4: right now like you if I if I.

546
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Speaker 3: Didn't, if I wasn't drafted, If you know what I mean,

547
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 3: it's different, man, you have to be you know. They

548
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 3: always say most of us are wired a little different

549
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: to play some of the positions that we play. But

550
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: I can only imagine because it's crazy. I was so

551
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: naive when I got drafted. The guys that I hung

552
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: out with was the undrafted free agency. And I'm not

553
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 3: saying that I was. I didn't know, but I looked

554
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: at them as well. They in my class, so we

555
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: all won. But I didn't know how they how much

556
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 3: pressure was on them each and every day. I didn't

557
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: understand it, you know. I was like I say, I

558
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: was a draft pick and that's all I cared about.

559
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: I didn't care about what round or where I was

560
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Speaker 3: on the team. But I was fighting just like they

561
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 3: was fighting. But I didn't understand that, Tanning, you got

562
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Speaker 3: a couple of years to make this thing happen. Like

563
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Speaker 3: if you don't hit off this first year, maybe year

564
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: or two, you know what I mean, things you know

565
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: strike up for you. These guys don't have a couple

566
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Speaker 3: of years. They got this, They got this tomorrow. They

567
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Speaker 3: got from now to the end of training camp make

568
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Speaker 3: this squad.

569
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Speaker 2: And I didn't know. I didn't understand.

570
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Speaker 3: So when you look back at it and now you

571
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Speaker 3: see how the draft is, you know, unwrapped in these days,

572
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: like that's just be honest.

573
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: This draft, I don't I watched a lot of drafts.

574
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Speaker 3: I have not seen it as many all Americans, all conferences,

575
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: blue chippers that haven't been drafted ever. Yeah, until I

576
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: saw this draft, like you got the guy Streppo in Miami.

577
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: You got a couple of guys that these are.

578
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 3: Guys all a C C all SEC guys that didn't

579
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: get drafted. So I think that it's a it's a

580
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 3: different time and before back then, because you got to

581
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: think you only had what two years to do practice squad. Nowadays,

582
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 3: when you're undrafted free agent, you can kind of look

583
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Speaker 3: at it saying, look, I still have a chance because

584
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 3: you can have six well six years.

585
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: Now yeah, so now yeah another practice Yeah, so they

586
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: have like you there's it's like slotted for the practice

587
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: squad and so it used to be six guys or

588
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Speaker 1: something guys.

589
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: Now you can put about twenty twenty.

590
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: But like they're slotted, so three of them, it's like

591
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: six of them need to be rookies. Six them can

592
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: be vetman guys. There's like true like veteran yeah, you

593
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: know whatever it is. So it's different. You do have

594
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: way more flexibility now and basically a rookie can fill

595
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: all those spots. Yeah, so like a veteran can't fit

596
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: a rookie spot, but a rookie can fit. So there

597
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: is like so I look at the team now, like again,

598
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: when I was coming out like I remember walking the

599
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: locker room first day, and you know, Trent Williams has

600
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: his locker, Perry Riley's got his locker, They've got the

601
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Speaker 1: woodlockers that I sent to the outside. Then in the

602
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 1: middle there's a row of metal lockers. Yeah, and your

603
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: boy was in the metal lockers. Right, there's ten blockers right,

604
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: Like they're like these are because the rosters at ninety yeah,

605
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: you guys aren't going to be here potentially. So I

606
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: was like, that was really sobering because I was like,

607
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: we're on a racer's that year, no doubt.

608
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: But don't feel too bad because we had I undrafted

609
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: guys in the mail room too.

610
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Speaker 1: When I was in Chicago, they put them in a

611
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Speaker 1: different room, different spot.

612
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Speaker 3: Bro week because the mail room was like so you

613
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: had to walk through our locker room and it was

614
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Speaker 3: a door to go get your mail.

615
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bro, I walked in to.

616
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Speaker 3: Get my mail, and I'm damn it was ackers in

617
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: the mirror room was like, what the hell a man at.

618
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 7: That?

619
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: But no, it was bad. It looked bad.

620
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: And I was sitting there like, damn, bro like and

621
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: like I said, it made me feel a certain way,

622
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: like man, you know, what I mean, this is what

623
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 3: you know.

624
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: These guys here they fighting a little different and they're

625
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: looking like orphans. Like that's what it is.

626
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 4: It's in there and it's always this how should I

627
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 4: say this creepy feeling because nobody in there is all

628
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 4: it's high energy, everybody justus christ.

629
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Speaker 3: So the crazy thing about it though, and like I say,

630
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: you probably noticed that here, but when I was there,

631
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 3: like three of the guys I was close to all

632
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: made the team and they was drafted and like they

633
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: was there for three four I was.

634
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: I was in there for four years. Those two of

635
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: those guys there for at least three years with them,

636
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: you know what.

637
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 3: I'm saying, So like to understand what they had to

638
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: go through to make it. But at the same time,

639
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: it's about who you link with to because I think

640
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: with me being the person that I was, I was

641
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: like that, come on, let's go work.

642
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: You know.

643
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: I was the same way with Pierce, Antonio Pierce and

644
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: l A. T r usc.

645
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he actually ended up starting just like ap did all.

646
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 4: So I was close with I think when we're so young,

647
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 4: we don't look at we don't look at it like,

648
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 4: we don't look at it like that we just look

649
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 4: at it.

650
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: The older I guess I started realizing like damn, because

651
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: you know what stood out to me and I don't

652
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: want to be too long with it. What what I

653
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 3: felt to realize is when until it happened, was as

654
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: soon as we needed another body, he's a casualty now

655
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: that that person that was an undrafted guy, no matter

656
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: how how he made the team, how long he's been here,

657
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: We're gonna move you because we got to bring a

658
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 3: guy in that we you know what I'm saying. So

659
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: and to one of my to one of my closest

660
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 3: teammates left.

661
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: Like hell, we got rid of him, like he's been

662
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: playing well and we don't pay them much. Yeah, so

663
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: we move with peace.

664
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: And so that's when it's kind of like snaps and

665
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: like and man it clicks or other and you're like, wow,

666
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: So these guys here, this is why one of those things,

667
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: like they're fighting not only to make it, but they're

668
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: fighting to lock in something. You know, they're fighting to say, man,

669
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: I need to I need to do enough that I

670
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 3: can maybe get a year or two out of.

671
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: This thing without having to be watching over my back.

672
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I think that's exactly. I mean, that's the

673
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: feelings you described are feelings that I felt every day. Anxiety, Yeah,

674
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: just a ton of anxiety because you never know because

675
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: again you're there's no investment from the team. They didn't

676
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: there's no draft pick, there's not a lot of money.

677
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: Well now there's more money, but at the time there

678
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of money. So you're like, every day,

679
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: I got to make the team. And then you see

680
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: people like even when I made the team, it's like

681
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: you're like the stealing age, the fiftieth guy, the fifty

682
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: second guy, Like there's a lot, a lot of edge there.

683
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: But I think one thing I want to ask you,

684
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: guys you've been around a lot, is like, what separates

685
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: a UDFA that makes it from a UDFA that doesn't

686
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: make it.

687
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: That's a good question, I would say, consist and see.

688
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: I like it because the one thing I think undrafted

689
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: free agency a free agent understanding is I have to

690
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: show them my floor. But I got to show them

691
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: my ceiling more often than I show them my floor.

692
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: When I think about it, if.

693
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: You undrafted, you ain't getting the reps we getting, So

694
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: every rep you get counts.

695
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: And you give me like stress.

696
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: Just no.

697
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: So I'm not to say because I've always thought about it,

698
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 4: because come on, I had a couple of homeboys, because

699
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 4: I was always like that is you know how they

700
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: tell of free agent. I mean, and the free agent, Alright,

701
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 4: we're gonna release you for a couple of days, but

702
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: we want to sign you back next week.

703
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: So I would let them stay at my house. So

704
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: I start to feel.

705
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: Some of the anxiety, like because they was unsure about

706
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: what was going to happen, if they was gonna get

707
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 4: picked back up. So I say, the ones that make it,

708
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: they are a tunnel vision and they're not worried about

709
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 4: the stuff they can't control.

710
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: They are only worried about what can I count. And

711
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: the only thing I.

712
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: Control is if this veteran start missing days at practice

713
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 4: and I get his reps, I'm not giving them back.

714
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: Like this the whole thing about it that I think

715
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 4: solidifies an undrafted free agent because just talking and chopping

716
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: it up with London when he was like when I

717
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: first made it to the Rams, the only reason I

718
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: really got a true shot guy got hurt and I ain't.

719
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: I ain't getting reps back and from.

720
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 4: The guys that I have met in this business that

721
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 4: came through that way.

722
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: That's how they did it. They understood the mission.

723
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: No, I think that consistency is spreaded on the head.

724
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: But I think also the undeniable fact that we can't

725
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: let this guy get out of the building. You know

726
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: when when guys, when coaches see guys that look, man,

727
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: for one, we don't have to pay him a lot,

728
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: but he can go out damn do that position, play

729
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: this position, play like like like Menzo Rao was one

730
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: of those guys. I'm not sure he was undrafted, yeah,

731
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: but he was a guy that I remember. He was

732
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: a guy that I heard the whispers when I got here,

733
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: like and I was saying myself, who is this damn dude?

734
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: They bring him out of come up and play fullback,

735
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: come over here and do this like he did so

736
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: much to where that they knew they couldn't let him

737
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: leave this team, like don't we couldn't put them on

738
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: a day vacation or two days saying that we need

739
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: to bring something like he made it hard for them.

740
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: And so that's dealing with a little bit of consistency.

741
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: But that just also just knowing the talent and knowing

742
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: that hey, man, this guy here can probably one day

743
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: be a guy that we put spent some money on

744
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: because he's shown that he can carry the load.

745
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: He can he can do more than what we actd

746
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: of them.

747
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: And I think that's what to me stood out to

748
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: the guys that I saw, like we had a guy.

749
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: I love talking about this guy because I'm not even

750
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: sure if Jay Gutett was undrafted Jonathan Carter player receiver.

751
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: He was. He was, so he was with the Giants first,

752
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: and then something happened over there. They brought him the

753
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: Jets made a trade and he became He became my

754
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: right hand man over there. And it was funny because

755
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: I watched him as a young Tanner. I'm sitting there

756
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: watching this dude. He can fly. He reminded me of Dion.

757
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: How Dion don't pick his legs up. It's a gay

758
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: same way. I'm in the I mean flow. But he

759
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: couldn't run a route to save his life. Yeah, straight

760
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: ahead though. He gone, and I said, man, come home

761
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: with me this summer. We went home.

762
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: Nobody know. We went down there, just me and him.

763
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: He worked out with me and you every day we ran,

764
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: we did the conditioning with the team.

765
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: We ran roster my receiver coach.

766
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: When we came back, her Matt was like, say, hey,

767
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: Man came, I got to holler at you, so you know,

768
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: I ain't got a clue what's going on. But we

769
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: hadn't been out there practice in for a while. Her

770
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: Man will say, you and Jake got are close? What

771
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: y'all he took him at this summer? I said, oh no,

772
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: he went home with me. He said, you gotta you

773
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: got Do you see what he doing out there? And like,

774
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: like I said, we're so close, I'm not even paying

775
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: attention to that.

776
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: He done raise our brides.

777
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: Now these people they see him running, they see him

778
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: doing things that we didn't know what he was going

779
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: to use him map. But when I came back to

780
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: Tim and told him what Hern told me, I said, hey, bro,

781
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: you're raising my brows. And he's one country boy because

782
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: you boy, you got me right. And I'm like, nah, bro,

783
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: you got yourself right. You just got around good company

784
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: that was going to be able to shop on what

785
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: you already had. So when he made it hard for

786
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 3: them to say, well he just can run fast or

787
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: he just can run straight. When he made it hard

788
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: and he showed him he can be a kick return,

789
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: he could be a part return, he could be a receiver.

790
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: Now it's more things that we can use. We can

791
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: utilize that, and that's what it's gonna be difficult for

792
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: us to cut them.

793
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: So I think it's something that I mentioned before.

794
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: I just feel like that's that's the fact that you

795
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: got to have being one of those kind of guys.

796
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 4: Can we agree that scouting itself is an inexact science,

797
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: like it's so I think so it got so many

798
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 4: holes in it to the point where it's almost you

799
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: listen to the media of college tell you who good

800
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 4: and who not.

801
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: But just think about it, though, Fred, when were coming

802
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: out of high school, like if you're not on a

803
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: team that's doing something.

804
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: Or if you not like they're gonna miss.

805
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 4: You, going to get overlooked.

806
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: It's the same thing with cottage kids coming to the pros,

807
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 3: Like if you're not on that. If I wasn't at

808
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: university in Miami, I would not be a first round

809
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: draft pick.

810
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.

811
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: If I don't want to Western Michigan, might he I

812
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: went to Western Michigan, Like I said, I was going

813
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 3: with my homeboys them when we all committed to Western Michigan.

814
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be the first round up because I wouldn't

815
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: get the I wouldn't get those eyes. I wouldn't have

816
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: got a chance to play against the Florida States and

817
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: playing those bowl games. So now you look at a

818
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: guy five nine, you know, one hundred and eighty something pounds,

819
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: soaking wet. Yeah, he's fast, but we don't know. We

820
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: take a chance with that. We just bring him in

821
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: here and maybe you know, he see what it made

822
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: the sticks, you know what I'm saying. So that's the

823
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: difference is where you at and the I guess you

824
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: can say the eyes that you're getting on presentation and

825
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: if you're getting the right looks and you're playing the

826
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 3: right kind of football when those eyes are watching and

827
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 3: sky's the limit.

828
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think like that's a that's a great point.

829
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: Like one of the things you're doing as a scout

830
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: is you're trying to mitigate risks. What's the easiest way

831
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: to mitigate risk? Like, if you're playing it, you're playing

832
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: at LSU, I know you're playing against good people, right,

833
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: Like you're playing against NFL talent, right. If you're playing it,

834
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: you know Central Michigan, like it's who knows what the

835
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: heck's going on there? Even like the Pac ten, like

836
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: I had a coach or Pac twelve now Big ten,

837
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: wherever that division is at, like it was like I

838
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: don't like recruiting players from there because I don't think

839
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: it's a tough division. I don't think it's a tough conference.

840
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: Because it's more of an offensive comfortence.

841
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: Correct and and so there are these biases that scouts have, right,

842
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: and I think that that's that that's where you're trying

843
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: to just make the best decision you can. But like

844
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: even with some of our utfas that you're going to

845
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: talk about in a second, like some of them are

846
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: hurt for the whole year, some of them didn't play,

847
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: some of them are back up, some of them transferred,

848
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: and so they get kind of lost and lost in

849
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: the sauce and that and that does happen. But I

850
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: do think you guys brought up a lot of good points.

851
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: Like the best udfas that I've been around, were incredibly

852
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: incredibly consistent, like professional from the door, and they found

853
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: a way to flash. They find whatever way it was

854
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: to say now, whether that's on teams, whether that's in

855
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: the pre season. So like when you come out and

856
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: watch practice, what you all will come out and watch practice,

857
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: like when you see somebody who's consistently flashing, consistently catching

858
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: the ball, consistently winning one on ones. Like those guys

859
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: they might not make the team because numbers, but they're

860
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: giving themselves a shot.

861
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: It's crazy that we talk about this.

862
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: And one of the things I want to bring up

863
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: because I remember this and I remember telling this to

864
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 3: my homeboy, Jay Guttter. I say, bro, when I got

865
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 3: to the University of Miami, I was a walk on,

866
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 3: and the only thing I had in the back of

867
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: my head, my dad used to tell me when I

868
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: played ball or did anything, make sure they have some

869
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: good to say about your name when when you're done.

870
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

871
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: So, like every time I stepped on the field before practice,

872
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 3: that was my little nugget I gave myself.

873
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: Make sure they have Make sure when we leave this

874
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 2: field they gonna.

875
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: Say, hey boy, you saw that boy, you saw you

876
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: saw forty eight, you saw you saw whatever.

877
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: Whatever.

878
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 3: So I used to tell him that because that's what

879
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: I did my whole freshman year in college. And I

880
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: remember the first day of practice, I remember all the

881
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: veterans like, hey boy, you know how they walk back

882
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: you're locking hey today today it is a wild I'm

883
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: not even tripping, but I would get him those pounds

884
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: like and that's what I used to be, like, see

885
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: this is all I want because.

886
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 2: Now I know now they don't.

887
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 3: I don't set the tone of what I expect every day,

888
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: so you know what I mean. So I can just

889
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 3: like I say, I kind of feel like, I know

890
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 3: we're talking about undrafted free agents, but that experience make

891
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: you feel, yeah, feel.

892
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: That's the same though. It's like it's like I think

893
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: about my experience and it was that that type of

894
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: stuff like Coolly being like, hey man, great job on

895
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: that Man Reach today, or Danny Smith being like, hey

896
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: man on that coverage show, like this great job right

897
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: and like just stacking days, you know, or when Big

898
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: Pro came up to me, it was like, hey man,

899
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: I love how you ran on the ball today, Like

900
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: you're just showing up on people's radar, and I think

901
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: that's that's super important.

902
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: I can say is I can say this about andraded

903
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: free agents because Mike Seller is one of my good friends.

904
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I did not know.

905
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: Go think about like Kenny, undrafted free agent, has this

906
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: strange route, like his route is in psych literally went

907
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 4: to junior college, left junior college and went right to

908
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 4: the CFL.

909
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: Like not to college to the CFL. But when you

910
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: turn around and he's six three.

911
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: Two hundred and eighty pounds two percent body fat, you like.

912
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody overlooked this one right here.

913
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,479
Speaker 1: Because for him, it was probably grades if.

914
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: It has to be something that sends you in this

915
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: direction that you go through.

916
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: But come on, when I played in the league, it

917
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: was no.

918
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 4: Full back bigger than my selllings, like not bigger, not

919
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: faster than, not strong with not nothing like. So if

920
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: you can overlook this human being, anybody can be over

921
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 4: us today is I can't say today. I was this

922
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: year years old when I found out he was a someone.

923
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 4: He has someone some wonder Yeah, I'm like, I'm wondering,

924
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: who created you?

925
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Is you a creative player?

926
00:38:59,040 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: Bro?

927
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: Like, it's nobody that looks like you.

928
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. The first time I saw him,

929
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: I see like I walked in and like, I'm like,

930
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: you're kind of sizing up and everyone's so big and

931
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, there's Donovan McNabb. Well they're Santana, Moss, whatever, whatever.

932
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: And then I saw Mike and I was like, that

933
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: must be like the three technique or something. That must

934
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: be like the nose guard. And then someone was like, oh,

935
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: that's Mike's and I just was like, oh man.

936
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: This is what happened when I first met him, because

937
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 4: it was on the field, baby listen. He had already

938
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: been here for his first list stint, and he went

939
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: to the Browns. The brown Side were playing the Browns,

940
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 4: and you know, they dapping everybody up before the game,

941
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: you know, because they was old teammates.

942
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, who, who are you? Who is this? They're like, no,

943
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: this Mi, this mondment of a.

944
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 4: Man because you know, we called him Big Mic, this

945
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: Big Mic because he got Big Mike.

946
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: But he's also just he's huge.

947
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 4: So they're like, yeah, man, we're gonna have to They

948
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 4: do a lot of talk sweeps and and that's the

949
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: form back. I like, what you want with me at

950
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: one hundred seventy five pounds to do with that? And

951
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 4: the first time they tossed their sweet I loved Molow

952
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: cut him to death.

953
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: I had to, and he fell on me and I

954
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: almost died. I cut him. He fell on me and

955
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: I almost die like this.

956
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: I like, I don't know what the NFL fuck me

957
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: like this when you had to start saking guessing yourself right?

958
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Did I remember him covering punts? Like so, Mike used

959
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: to play right guardland the punt team. I used to

960
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: back him up. So I used to watch him and

961
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: he used to like they because he make all the tackles,

962
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: so people try to like messle them. He was so strong,

963
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: literally just snatch people, throw him to the ground, run down,

964
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: make the tackles. And I was like, and Danny used

965
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, do like Mike does. And I

966
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: was like, no one can.

967
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: Nobody. You walk in.

968
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: You walk in the weight room right and he's bnching

969
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: and you started to see the bar being and I'm like,

970
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 4: I'm in the road play.

971
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: Did I remember he one time? He was like hey, like,

972
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm warming up. I'm trying to I'm

973
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: trying new work out. And I was like, what are

974
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: you doing, Mike? And he goes just benching to twenty

975
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: five as many times as I can, And I was like,

976
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: how many times is that? Mike? And he goes, oh,

977
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: I did it forty four times.

978
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: What I'm telling you what's wrong with looking at Mike.

979
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: The first thing I'd do I simnest a. See, I'm

980
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 3: glad I stopped playing coler.

981
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: I ain't tackling that.

982
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: I remember the first clip, the first clip I saw

983
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: of Mike. It was like a past past fifteen week, right,

984
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: So like you you you act like you're gonna insert

985
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: on the linebacker. You bluff him and you run.

986
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

987
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: So the linebacker was James Harrison. Yeah, and you know

988
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: James Harrison.

989
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: Oh, he won't to smoke.

990
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: He he will jack you up. Yeah, he'll put you

991
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: nice in that like sleepy time on the nap field there,

992
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: and he won't even think twice about it. So big

993
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Mike running through the hole. James comes up, I'm gonna

994
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: hit this dude, and Mike, I'm not kidding, runs him

995
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: over like clean, like a click, you know, like you

996
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: see those ones where it's like a like someone's trying

997
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: to tackle a car get. And James Harrison, who is

998
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: one of the baddest dudes I've ever played against, was

999
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: flat back, turtlebacked on the ground and Mike's running on

1000
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: to the flat I'm just like this dude just built

1001
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: different undrafted free agent, Yes, so that brings us the

1002
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: next question, how does the guy like Mike Seller slip

1003
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: through the cracks? And what I will say about this

1004
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: is that I now that I'm more into the draft stuff,

1005
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: so much of the draft profile is dictated through high school. Yeah, so,

1006
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: like I can't tell any how many like draft punnits

1007
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: are like, oh, he was a five star recruit from

1008
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: so and so he was give much of this, he

1009
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: was a five star that And to Tanni's point, like

1010
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: let's say you missed in high school you were from

1011
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: a like cam Ward is a great example. It's getting

1012
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: better with the transfer portal because now you can go

1013
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: to Washington State, then you go to Miami and then

1014
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: you get that national media thing. But prior to that

1015
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: you would be stuck. Yeah, like if you're if you're

1016
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: London Fletcher, you're stuck at John Carroll for four years.

1017
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 2: I thought.

1018
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. So now you now there's

1019
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: some flexibility to move around. Yeah, but like you were

1020
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: you were there, No, that's who you are. You were done. Yeah,

1021
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: and so now like because there's some more flexibility, that's

1022
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: not as common, but I think it's so it's so

1023
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: closely correlated to the high school stuff. You get caught

1024
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: in the program someplace, and the teams do a great

1025
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: job of finding you. Yeah, but they know they don't

1026
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: need to give you a ton of value because the

1027
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: guys at LSU get all the like tennis saying like

1028
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: that whole mix is really interesting.

1029
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: You got to you have to just to answer your question.

1030
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: You know, that's basically what it is. If you're not

1031
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: at those schools where they actually got prime time stames,

1032
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, weekend and week out year round,

1033
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: then you can get you know, unseen.

1034
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 4: Well, I think the great scouts, how can you the

1035
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 4: question they asked us, how can I find the unestablished?

1036
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: How can I find that the athlete that has not

1037
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: established himself yet?

1038
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: Well, you know most of the time too, you run

1039
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: a good forty that raised everybody eyebright.

1040
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this is this. I'm not kidding what

1041
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: I'll do for you to face, I'm not kidding. I'll

1042
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: go down So this is where I think is gonna

1043
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: get drafted. I'll just go down the list. Oh this

1044
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: guy ran a four to edis pro day. Yeah, let's

1045
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: go watch this film. Oh, this guy's six' eight and

1046
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: you know. Whatever, yeah let's go like he's got thirty

1047
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: five inch, arms like you just looked for.

1048
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 4: Out so you're saying you NEED i need to find one.

1049
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 4: Characteristic you need to find. Something SO i need to find, something.

1050
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: Something that stands. Out they blinks the light at me and,

1051
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: says because you ain't gonna go watch THAT fm if you.

1052
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: Don't and so What's tanna saying is, like when you

1053
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: get into, camp you can flash in a different in

1054
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: a different. Way but If i'm a, scout you KNOW

1055
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: i can only watch four hundred guys in an. Offseason

1056
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: yeah for those extra hundred, guys those ud, Face i'm

1057
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: gonna look. Down oh you're six, six you play wide

1058
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: receiver At Eastern Tennessee Valley. State let's go see what

1059
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: the film.

1060
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: Looks so tell, me is how many guys you watched

1061
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: before the draft just?

1062
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: Passed SO i wrote reports on one hundred and eighty

1063
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: five GUYS i probably.

1064
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: WATCHED i went two.

1065
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: Hundred, yeah i'd watch two hundred and THEN i probably

1066
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: watched no reports another.

1067
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: Fifty so just, think uh apt them watching five hundred? Plus,

1068
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: yeah so what are they gonna. Do i'm gonna go

1069
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: Pick Central Valley missouri and watch this. Guy, know if

1070
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 3: they're gonna go out, base what you're, SAYING i need

1071
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: something to jump off the.

1072
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: Page, yeah it could be. Production it could be like

1073
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: you had in two thousand yards receiving And middle.

1074
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 3: TENNESSEEAEN PBu, yeah anything that's you know What i'm. Saying

1075
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: SO i never knew it it came down to. That

1076
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: but when you think about, it you're, like that's why

1077
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: when you saw the raider is always picking that that fast.

1078
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: Guy that's what they like because they like. Characteristics something

1079
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: some gonna pop with this. Dude you, know if he can,

1080
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: run we can bring him.

1081
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: In you can run a fall, three be a, writer

1082
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: you could be a.

1083
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: Right they was giving that checks like it don't matter

1084
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: about the other stuff like.

1085
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 4: This this is the funny the things about these characteristics

1086
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: and some just need to stick out one.

1087
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: Thing, yeah and so you, know like this, year let's

1088
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about this year as you DID fa,

1089
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: Class so how many go there's, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

1090
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 1: ten ten guys and then there's a couple of guys

1091
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: that are mini camp tryout. Guys so let's talk about

1092
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: that real. Quick so, basically if you're A, udfa you've

1093
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: signed a contract with the. Team if you have not

1094
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: done that and you're a mini camp, invite it means

1095
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: you're a non contracted. Player, yeah so you still are

1096
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: like they're still trying to determine whether or not you

1097
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: deserve to be on the. TEAM i will say it's

1098
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: hard in my, experience especially, now for those guys to

1099
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: make the team, because Like tanna, said the scouting department

1100
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: here is so. Good they know so unless you're like

1101
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: a good example of this Is Brandon. Banks, remember yeah

1102
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: do it So Brandon. Banks he came in as a tryout,

1103
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: guy AND i remember the udfas like we're, like, okay

1104
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: you guys are, here do your, workout go, inside and

1105
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: then everybody else had to go run a forty and

1106
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: so it was about fifteen guys they were all there

1107
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: for tryout guys And Brandon banks running four to two

1108
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: to one on that old stinky turf in cleats and

1109
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: a full. Spat so that dude's running like a four to.

1110
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: One yeah you know What i'm, Saying like he is

1111
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: straight got. Great so that's how he made the. Team

1112
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: he just stood out in that. Setting it's hard for

1113
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: those guys not to make the. Team but let's talk

1114
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: about a couple of guys on here THAT i that

1115
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: caught my. Eye i've watched film and all these guys

1116
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: except For cypress From Florida. State he wasn't on my

1117
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: list THAT i, got but he's on, here so we'll

1118
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: talk about him because his measurables are. Silly so we'll

1119
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: talk about. That first guy on the list THAT i

1120
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: want to point out Is timmy y, McKay guard FROM Nc.

1121
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: State so you talk about things to stick. Out he's six,'

1122
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: four he's about, three fifteen he's got thirty four and

1123
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: a half, Inch arms so, check check check all, the measurables.

1124
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: Check check he had a great week At The, shrine

1125
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: bowl so check that pre. Draft process and then you

1126
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: look at his college production he had he had what?

1127
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: Is this he had four sacks loout in thirty, eight

1128
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: games so. Product teams and so when you watch, the

1129
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: film after all that pre after all that pre, draft process, you,

1130
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: say man this guy he's got, the measurable he's got,

1131
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: the hike got the wake at, the length and he's

1132
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: a pretty good. Football payer and again the thing WITH,

1133
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: the udfa he's not super strong in. The trunk he's

1134
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: got to work on some he got. He's got he's a.

1135
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: Developmental guy everybody is drafted andrafted got something to.

1136
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: Work on a long as we're pointing. That out but

1137
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: he's a guy that just look at, the paper had

1138
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: a peck injury in the in the, draft process that

1139
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: again is going to, be, like oh he can't do all,

1140
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: the testing he might not be ready. For whatever but

1141
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: that's how a guy who to me is a draftable

1142
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: player ends UP becoming udfa injury in the and.

1143
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 4: And they gotta be hord For office aliabman, to say you,

1144
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 4: know what in thirty, EIGHT games i gave him four

1145
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 4: sex and that didn't.

1146
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: Get, drafted yeah like, that possible and especially because he

1147
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: had like you Watched The, shrine ball he looks like

1148
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: the best. Player, there yeah like and like he's. Physically,

1149
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: dominant yeah, but again tweaks. His peck he's not gonna

1150
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: be READY. For ot he might not be ready for.

1151
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: Training camp and people, are, like no we're going a.

1152
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: Different direction but that's how you get a borderline draftable

1153
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: player who's available For The washington. Commanders. Here, YEAH no

1154
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: i mean, that's like that's, exactly, Right right like that's

1155
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: what you're. Looking for the other guy that you pointed

1156
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: out ten it was a.

1157
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: RICKY barber i almost called. Him wreaking bobby does look.

1158
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: LIKE that i won't shake. WITH you i won't to take.

1159
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: Him show when, You watch oh, My gosh so when

1160
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: YOU watch udfa is a lot of times it's a

1161
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: little underwhelming because you're used to watching guys that are. Physical, freaks,

1162
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: right yeah, this guy he's sixty three two. NINETY five

1163
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: i will say the from the first snap to the

1164
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: LAST stop. I watch he talking about exploding out of.

1165
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: Your stance yeah. He is he's got, long arms got

1166
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: thirty four, inch arms so again they've fits the measurable he.

1167
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: Is doing he's like diving into the offensive lineman's face

1168
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,959
Speaker 1: using his length like he he looks like a pass.

1169
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 9: Rusher, build yeah he is a violent run. Stopping player now,

1170
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 9: he's explosive come up. The, line yeah and.

1171
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: He didn't run a, fast forty which probably heard him

1172
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: in terms of. Getting drafted, but man he Is like

1173
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: i'm talking like put the Hand, of, god, effort effort.

1174
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: YOU know i wonder when you have guys like, you Know,

1175
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: McKay BARBARA like i wanted to do like teams who

1176
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 3: bring guys and you knowing, like hey we gotta we gotta,

1177
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: steal here like, YOU know i, Mean possible you KNOW what.

1178
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: I mean, i mean it's still got to go out

1179
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: there and but, you know practice. And compete but when

1180
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: you're looking at their measurables into some of the things

1181
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: you saw, on film, like man how was this able

1182
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: to land?

1183
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: Anne out like because all us can't? Make it like

1184
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: they Go.

1185
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 4: To key we got five hundred of us coming out.

1186
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: Every year only a few gonna, get drafted only a,

1187
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 4: few undrafted then only a.

1188
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: Few invites but we forgot about the.

1189
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 4: Main stage we forgot about the guys that's Still there,

1190
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 4: like that that's why it's hard to.

1191
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: Make it in a good example, of This Ister corey Brooks,

1192
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: From louisville like his film. Is good he's got good right,

1193
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: running nuance he catches the. Ball great he had this

1194
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: PLAY Versus uh pittsburgh where he does one of these

1195
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: channel like he's looking over, his SHOULDER the dv pulls

1196
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: down and he turns completely one hundred and eighty degrees

1197
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: and catches the ball like it was unblessed, all that

1198
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: but he ran a four to. Six five yeah you

1199
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: Know what.

1200
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 9: I'm saying does that mean he? Can't, play no he just.

1201
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 9: Ran it it wasn't his day. That day some people don't, test, Well, Right.

1202
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah so is there a role for a player? Like

1203
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: this potentially this big guy run? As, well like that's an.

1204
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: Interesting One cam arnold the same type. Of thing he

1205
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: only played six games this. Last year but like when

1206
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: he does, play like he, shows up, you know he

1207
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: feels like guy who could make it. On teams. He

1208
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: flashes and let's just talk about two more guys, real

1209
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: quick and we're gonna take a. Deeper dive and if

1210
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: you want a, full dive and all these guys makes

1211
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: you check out ticket to. The draft we're gonna go

1212
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: through every single one. Of them but the two GUYS

1213
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: that i THINK just i wanted to kind of highlight

1214
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: OF this. Udifa group we're going to talk about another

1215
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: guy here in, a Second but robert McDaniel From, Jackson, State.

1216
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: Jackson mississippi stand up dude. As well did you?

1217
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: Watch?

1218
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: HIM listen i watched him after we talked about him.

1219
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: Last Night and I'm.

1220
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: From jackson you got realize my high school is right

1221
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: Next To. Jackson, state YES so i grew up right

1222
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 4: in then that's. My area he's a, blue bangle, All

1223
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 4: right that's what.

1224
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: He is he's interesting to w he's interesting.

1225
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: To watch he.

1226
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 4: Plays everywhere like if you watch the field sometime you

1227
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: can lose where he hit because, you're, like nah they

1228
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: wouldn't put a safety AT. D, n yes they will

1229
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 4: defense very like in, one game did he rushed?

1230
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: The pass so in one game he played. Outside, corner

1231
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: yes he, played safety and in that safety role he lined.

1232
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: Up back he lined up at linebacker in.

1233
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: The end you Know what, i'm saying because he's like the.

1234
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: Box safety so there's a clip where he's like the

1235
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: end spilling a pulling guard and, you're like NOT.

1236
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 9: What i would, expect football.

1237
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: Right exactly so in terms of a skill set that gets,

1238
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: you excited a guy that can play multiple spots against

1239
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: small school competition a little bit harder, to PROJECT but

1240
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: i think he's he's kind of like.

1241
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 4: Dark, horse well the Thing About, jackson state they Got

1242
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: more hall of famers than YOU SEE u C.

1243
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: L a you just made, that up, but, NO no

1244
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: i know they have a Lot of Hall.

1245
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: Of fame jackson state Has more Hall of FAMERS than

1246
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: u C. L, a.

1247
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: Well this was because there used to BE an hpcu

1248
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: it's STILL.

1249
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: An hbc it's always this.

1250
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: Was back When Like jackie Slater And Jackie, walter payton

1251
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: all these guys, they got they Got more.

1252
00:52:59,080 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: Hall of fame.

1253
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: Just maybe the best. Offensive lineman.

1254
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm just speaking.

1255
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: The facts how crazy? Is it like what a crazy

1256
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: country we're living in that those guys couldn't play college

1257
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: football and they you Know what, I'm saying like that.

1258
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: Was crazy that's what we are, Whatever anyway so, But

1259
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: yeah Robert m, robert McDaniel he's not on the same

1260
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: Level As, jackie slater but he's an interesting guy because

1261
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: again six two two Ten box atlanta, Scrimmage.

1262
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: Corner like like what are we?

1263
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: Talking about like that's a unique skill set a job.

1264
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: For him and then the other GUY that i think

1265
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: is Interesting Is, carlon viggers Cornerback From It's louisiana monroe

1266
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: and he Played. Against tech he played the game that got,

1267
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: me sold Played against texas and, you know They Got

1268
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: isaiah bond who. Got drafted they got what's? His name

1269
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: he got drafted in the first round. The Receiver, Go golden,

1270
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: Thank You. Matthew golden I'm having it's already out of, My.

1271
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: HEAD breeze I have molti and he.

1272
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: Locked those tuoes down like he played really well cover,

1273
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: three corner a little bit of. Man physicality he looks

1274
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: LIKE an nfl. Football player so those are four GUYS

1275
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: that i think we just wanted to highlight to kind

1276
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: of say in terms of, right Now if i'm putting, the, limit,

1277
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: ye right and we'll see they got to make the

1278
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 1: team all that kind, Of stuff but.

1279
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: Actually have scouts more props for fan than undrafted free

1280
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: agents and these GUYS than i do For Drafting chase

1281
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 4: young at the number.

1282
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: Two team as, You know i'm just saying this, this

1283
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: clear this.

1284
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: Is, Unclear yeah so obviously really excited about. Those guys

1285
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: they'll be at rookie mini Camp, on friday and we're

1286
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna have a. Live show we'll be able to talk

1287
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: about them on ticket of the draft and more detail,

1288
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: their backstory and then we'll be able to talk about them,

1289
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: at practice which is that show coming Out. On, Friday,

1290
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 1: okay now this is maybe one of the more interesting

1291
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: stories if You're a commander's fan and that's, You Know. Gabe.

1292
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: Taylor yep and he is a mini camp, invite guy

1293
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: so that means he does not have a contract with. The,

1294
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: team yeah he's here to. Try OUT and i, Don't Know,

1295
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: like tanna you said something really cool last night when

1296
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: we did our live show, about him, his dad what

1297
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: the City of washington means. To HIM and i think

1298
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: it's cool that the commanders are giving him. An opportunity

1299
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: and again when you watch, this, film yeah it's a. Good,

1300
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: player yeah problem is he's five eight five.

1301
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: Team NOW so i.

1302
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 1: Looked him up In, the beast which is the guy

1303
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: that does all the. Official, measurements yeah five, eight two

1304
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: so not a big man of SAFETY and i think

1305
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: that's the thing that's going to be tough, for him

1306
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: especially for an organization that values size at the. Safety

1307
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: spot but you were saying some stuff about HIM that

1308
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: i thought was.

1309
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 3: Really, Cool, YES yeah i, just said, you know it's,

1310
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 3: ABOUT legacy, i think and when you look at the

1311
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 3: type of how, he's wired how they. Are built, You

1312
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 3: know sean and His, brother pete you know they dad

1313
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: did a great job with just, YOU know, i mean

1314
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 3: it's something about him because he peaked to. This day

1315
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: he's still training kids like he. Actually trained. He did

1316
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: he did a lot of his training his.

1317
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 2: Off.

1318
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: Season yeah and when you heard that he ran like a.

1319
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: Four thing he ran four to four or four. To

1320
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 3: five it was, pretty fast low four five high. Four, four,

1321
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: yeah okay so when. Good TIME when i looked, At that,

1322
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 3: i'm Like. That's pete that's, just daddy because it's that

1323
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 3: it don't he. Don't stop and he's a. Football player

1324
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 3: he's a GUY like, i, say man this this kid

1325
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 3: said it from, day ONE like i want to live

1326
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 3: on my my. BROTHER'S legacy i want to make sure that.

1327
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 3: They remember we gonna remember. His NAME but i want

1328
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 3: to make sure that he can play through me and live.

1329
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 3: Through me and so it was great to even know

1330
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: that he turned down other opportunities of getting down here

1331
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: a deal just, to, Say hey i'm want to work

1332
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 3: out for, you guys BECAUSE maybe I can i can lend.

1333
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: A spot you Know what.

1334
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: I'M saying i.

1335
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 4: Don't know, Most definitely, AND listen i had the Conversation,

1336
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 4: with PETE like i talked to him, last week like the,

1337
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 4: week BEFORE like i talked to him all, the time

1338
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 4: actually working on The shun taylor movie as, we speak as,

1339
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 4: a PRODUCER so i have to go back and Forth

1340
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 4: with pete all. The, time now the one Thing about

1341
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: GAY that. I love gay. Got, passion man if you,

1342
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 4: got passion you got. A chance and by them saying

1343
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 4: let's give him, a chance that that meant everything to,

1344
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 4: Their family like meant every thing to, That family and

1345
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 4: they just showed we've, Been ran we're being ran the.

1346
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: Right.

1347
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: Way now ain't nobody say he gonna make. The team

1348
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 4: ain't nobody saying any. Of that but to give him

1349
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 4: a chance to go in that same locker room and

1350
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: sit in that same locker room that his brother, set

1351
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 4: in to walk in, the footstep to walk on that,

1352
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 4: practice field he will take none of that. For granted

1353
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 4: he will all of that to have a glaze, to

1354
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: him all of it to have something attached to it.

1355
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 4: To him it just kudos to the to the team

1356
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: for even giving him.

1357
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: That, chance yeah and again he's a little bit, you

1358
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: KNOW like, i said it's hard for, you know those

1359
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: trial guys to make, the. Team understand but, YOU know

1360
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: i think his, Film's fun it's got. Good energy you

1361
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: can see his passion and, you know.

1362
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: If he gonna raise the eye brought It, to yeah.

1363
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: Gotta be a. Little lucky you gotta be a. Little

1364
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: good i've been.

1365
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 4: Say, ONCE hey I told gabe this last week because

1366
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 4: he was unsure what he should do because he did

1367
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 4: have office from. OTHER teams I told gabe, simply this

1368
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 4: DO like i told HIM when i.

1369
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: Came here you just let a roach in. The house

1370
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: it's hard to get me out beat a roach in.

1371
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: The house when once you let a roach in, your

1372
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: house he's. IN there i ain't. Coming, out brother the

1373
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: sisters coming. Behind you gotta watch how you. Eat them

1374
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: honey spanks when the roach is.

1375
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 4: In.

1376
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: There YEAH so, I mean i'm excited To watch gabe

1377
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: and his journey and. We'll see maybe it ends, this

1378
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: weekend maybe it makes it the training can we'll see.

1379
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: What happened you just don't know a great thing about,

1380
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: this game but, know.

1381
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, All right and so this is something that's been

1382
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: coming up a little, bit RECENTLY and i think, it's

1383
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: interesting IS can i have? Your number and IT'S because

1384
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: i do seven, oh THREE but I? Duel, Carter, Right

1385
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah bill carter's ask, For, numbers fred you had your

1386
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: number taken. Offered off what happened because you went from

1387
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: twenty one to.

1388
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: Twenty seven first, of all my number was.

1389
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 4: Never taken, YOU know i left and Went to minnesota

1390
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 4: and they Gave it shun switched from thirty six when we.

1391
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: Was Here initially sean was. THIRTY six i was.

1392
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 4: Twenty ONE when, I left Seann said i'm gonna put

1393
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: this two to one on. REPRESENT you i, WAS like

1394
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: i don't do what you gotta do represent you, with

1395
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 4: Me and sean was, super CLOSE like.

1396
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't ask me. And, SIT yeah i.

1397
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: Can say it's hard to know if fred He and

1398
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: sean was.

1399
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 4: Super close that was, never, Mistaken right AND when, i

1400
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 4: left he put on that. Twenty one SO when i,

1401
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 4: Came back sean affletely actually offered me twenty one BACK

1402
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 4: and i, was, like, no dude you just went To The.

1403
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 4: Pro bowl no legitates They Get so, i'm, Like no

1404
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 4: i'm gonna put on. Thirty SIX so i was gonna

1405
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 4: put on his. Old NUMBER when i, came back somebody

1406
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 4: had it SO did i, was like, All right i'm

1407
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 4: just gonna put on the. Two SEVEN so I put

1408
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 4: i did vote the, Two SEVEN so i, Was fine

1409
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 4: but switching NUMBERS due i don't know if that's just

1410
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 4: us psychologically kind of messed, with players like because we

1411
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 4: get comfortable with numbers in representation that when you switch

1412
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 4: your number sometime you can kind of.

1413
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: Reflect IT Did I so I when i Went, TO

1414
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: chicago i fell. LEFT here i, Was like i'll take,

1415
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: whatever NUMBER and i think they gave me like eighty

1416
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: nine or you, know something that number like whatever they

1417
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: had eighty three and the coach came out to practice and,

1418
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: was like why are you in? THAT number i, was,

1419
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: like oh this is the one they. Gave me get

1420
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 1: eddy two and he sent me back in changed my jersey,

1421
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: right THERE and i came back to the field like

1422
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: it threw, him off you Know what. I'm SAYING and i,

1423
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: was like, all Right like i'll, wear this like you

1424
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: Know what. I'm saying but.

1425
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: It's a synergy, To you it's totally. A synergy it,

1426
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 3: means something and it just to speak. On it LIKE

1427
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: when i got here kind of, you know KNOWING that

1428
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: i wore eighty three for the last, four YEARS and

1429
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: i walked in, The locker, i'm, like, well, damn y'all

1430
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 3: ain't even ask ME what.

1431
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: I wanted i just had an eighty nine.

1432
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: Sitting, there YEAH and i.

1433
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: LOOKED around I saw.

1434
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 3: JAMES strasjold i be Lying to, james, like, hey BRO

1435
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: anyway I can i get there?

1436
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: From you, YOU know i want to talk. About It and,

1437
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: james like, all right let me pray, on it that's all.

1438
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: He.

1439
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 3: SAID bro i put that eighty nine on like, every

1440
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: day like with a little bit OF like i ain't got.

1441
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 3: My number but over THE time. I couldn't i couldn't

1442
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 3: put none. Else ON so I just i played. THROUGH

1443
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 3: it i practiced, through it and before you, Know, It

1444
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 3: james james was ready to swap and, Say yeah, i'm

1445
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 3: GOOD and i hadn't already came up with the, idea, like,

1446
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: oh stup eighty three and six is.

1447
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: Eighty nine that's my old, two numbers you KNOW what.

1448
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: I mean so it's. A synergy you definitely hit that on.

1449
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 3: The HEAD but i think also you KNOW that i

1450
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 3: say the, man number don't make a mand man make.

1451
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: The, number yeah the. Damn, life yeah because for the. Stink,

1452
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: number boy you. Feel, it, no no you. Feel it

1453
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: you can.

1454
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 4: Feel, it no you can, feel it like if you

1455
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 4: put me out there and, you're, like, yeah smooth put

1456
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 4: this for the, Sail mom, I'm like i'm finna, get

1457
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 4: BURNED like i don't know for some reason.

1458
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: My hand.

1459
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: It's funny like doing a college prospector, you're like HERE'S

1460
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: this dv that's wearing like some random like. Thirty nine,

1461
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: you're like why are you? Wearing, that like?

1462
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,959
Speaker 2: Come, on SO can i tell you a? Green?

1463
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 3: Story BRO and I think i probably shared, it before

1464
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: so pissed. And prelude he was on the TEAM when i.

1465
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 3: Got Here pe, Lo, LIKE tanna i got a story

1466
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 3: to tell you so. About You so, i'm like, all

1467
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 3: right so, he said or pray loud Was At. Virginia

1468
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 3: Tech so i'm a Freshman at miami and, you know

1469
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 3: we get ready to play. Each other we in the,

1470
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: same conference, same division And so, pelos, say man the

1471
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: coach came to us, to, say, hey now why the

1472
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: universe remimi whide receivers are All FRESHMAN and i know.

1473
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,959
Speaker 3: One thing if any one of y'all let this number

1474
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 3: forty eight yea in the field and catch, a ball

1475
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 3: y'all don't deserve to be. In college, Pelos, say tana

1476
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: it was third and loan you and.

1477
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: The slot i'm. Over you you went for thirty. On,

1478
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: me boom.

1479
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: He said the coaches looked, at it everybody looking, at.

1480
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 3: Me laughing, He say tanner the GREATEST feeling.

1481
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: I ever.

1482
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 3: HE said i came on. THE sideline, I say i

1483
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: don't know what y'all. Talking about he the fast receiver

1484
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 3: they got on. Their team then y'all, know that.

1485
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: She said.

1486
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 3: Coach pissed start with him and say so, Every, week

1487
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 3: pelo say EVERY week.

1488
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: I watched you and them games to show them. YOUR

1489
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: highlights i told y'all. FORTY eight i. TOLD you i showed.

1490
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: Up again he was.

1491
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 3: Like that then he said the, next year, he said the,

1492
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 3: next year, he said they looking for. Forty eight hell

1493
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 3: that damn. Forty eight, He, SAY man i went deep

1494
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: on it was the, second player probably in the first

1495
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 3: first first drive of.

1496
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: THE game i go for like sixty. Bomb touchdown, he

1497
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: said they go. NUMBER six i, TOLD you i, told you.

1498
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: He said the. COACH toldhim, I, APOLOGIZE bro i got.

1499
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: Some story try laughing at.

1500
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: THIS threat, i, say, damn bro you ALREADY thought i was,

1501
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 3: a chump, He, said bro we ain't think you're gonna

1502
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 3: be there.

1503
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: With you was out there looking like. A six stay

1504
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: with that.

1505
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: The, other, way though like if you can if you

1506
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: get like a player that's got like a sick, number

1507
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: on like, single digit and, you're like give. It More

1508
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: but i'm saying if you're playing defensive end and you're

1509
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: trash wearing a, single digit yeah you're gonna get you

1510
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: Know what i'm.

1511
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 4: Saying it but also when you did a first, initial

1512
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 4: LOOK if i see A d n that's, winning.

1513
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: Nine, You're like, i'm like this guy dropped the true

1514
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: he got no tackles and no say but he.

1515
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: Looked good you know what's crazy is the. Guy, barber

1516
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: yeah he wears a single dishe? Where's, five oh this.

1517
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: Guy's sick sometimes you're just.

1518
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 2: Give me it's like twenty three, in basketball like you.

1519
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: Kind of just, give you, you know like ninety nine. In,

1520
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: hockey yeah yeah you were.

1521
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: Ninety nine you better know you better, Be good like

1522
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: can't even want. That, number, no no they won't even

1523
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: let name number ninety if you sit that forty two.

1524
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 2: In baseball do you watch do You?

1525
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: Watch, shorgy yeah the. Hockey, show yeah and the dude

1526
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: had number ninety eight on and the whole episode he's

1527
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: just cutting up, with, him like oh you think you're?

1528
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: That good you figure as Good, as gretsy you're Less.

1529
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: Than gretzy the whole time he's just cutting up. With

1530
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: him it's.

1531
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 4: Really fun note numbers have a power TO what i

1532
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 4: feel BAD for, i dude, you know, oh yeah because

1533
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 4: it's talk right up.

1534
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: To, door yeah because LIKE.

1535
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: That's i don't feel he just went.

1536
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 3: Number three its not, even that it's, just, like, okay

1537
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: look you can't, get eleven you can't get.

1538
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 2: Fifty six what he's.

1539
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: GONNA have, i mean we, don't Care but, I'M like

1540
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 3: i know it means something to have a number that

1541
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 3: that that basically you know.

1542
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: Fits, You okay so, For me i'm okay with him asking.

1543
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: For eleven i'm okay. WITH that i Think phil simms

1544
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: is awesome but. Not Great And phil simms, was, like,

1545
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: yeah okay like and his family, was, like no why

1546
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: do we do not do? That, Whatever like i'm okay.

1547
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: With that but Fifty Six lawrence taylor is like the best, defensive,

1548
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: Time yes and, you're like that's THE one.

1549
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 3: I want, i mean, these, kids man THAT'S why i

1550
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: told you BEFORE what i told you about. These kids

1551
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 3: they don't know, the past and he probably know of

1552
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 3: the name and don't get. Me wrong, he knows but he.

1553
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: Don't know he. Don't know you Know what. I'm saying

1554
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: He Know lawrence, taylor was but he. Don't, know Yeah

1555
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 2: So lawrence taylor took thirteen seconds to. Tell, Him hell.

1556
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, like this anytime a man could

1557
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: be riding by the stadium and see the lights on

1558
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 3: the one that was going on and pull up in there, and, say.

1559
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: Oh, were playing and go out there and make a

1560
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 2: difference in. The game ask him for he had.

1561
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: A game The stories i've Heard About, lawrence taylor the

1562
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: STORIES are i Can't say, i'm here but.

1563
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 2: They are once you get INTO The, Nfc, east yeah you.

1564
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: Can't help but hear, Long story.

1565
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: You're like that can't. Be real and then you somebody else, you're,

1566
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: like oh. That's true it's. Very True Like danny smith

1567
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: used to tell The Funniest lawrence. Taylor, stories anyway we'll

1568
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: not talking. About him, BUT so i just the thing

1569
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: about fifty six is, LIKE you i, don't know it

1570
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: just feels like it takes. A lot it doesn't hurt to,

1571
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: ask no, ask him see, they say.

1572
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: But they don't HURT.

1573
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 3: The X but i, think too you have to just

1574
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: understand who's behind that that. That acts so, you KNOW

1575
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 3: if I Know lawrence taylor's the guy, Might ax i'm not.

1576
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: Even messing just like if we.

1577
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: Drafted it let's let's say we Draft trail hunter in the.

1578
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 2: First round he came in, and said let me put on.

1579
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: Twenty, eight.

1580
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: No but he's gonna.

1581
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: Say.

1582
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 2: Twelve no i'm, just, saying, like no.

1583
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: You can't you know what's interesting is there's NOT a i,

1584
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: don't know are there any numbers, retired here like?

1585
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: Officially, retired yes twenty eight. Is retiring nine. Is retiring

1586
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: is what you?

1587
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 9: Call?

1588
01:06:55,520 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: Him? Sonny, Right Yeah SONNY jagson u thirty three this. Sleeking.

1589
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: Salmon bah SO what.

1590
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna say is like they have a like

1591
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: when you come to, THE team i remember.

1592
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 2: This jersey is. Not retailing they can't put it on

1593
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: the tirely. Twenty SEVEN yeah i didn't. Hear, that.

1594
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah's gonna look, THAT up.

1595
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: I think.

1596
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: But to the, friends point like you come here and

1597
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: like so when they're saying what number, you want you

1598
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: can't pick any of these numbers and some of them,

1599
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: aren't retired.

1600
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: But like but they're just not going to let you.

1601
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: ANY one i think, eighty six, my feet there's another

1602
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: one that's like in the eighties.

1603
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 2: Of, twenty one we are, twenty one, twenty eight.

1604
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: Even though like AND so i do think. That's seven,

1605
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: that's right you can't. Pay seven but.

1606
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: At One Point doug jersey won up for his jersey.

1607
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 3: Wasn't available and then when when Your, BOY no I.

1608
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 3: Forgot no seventeen Was Because. Jason, kemmel yeah, you're Right

1609
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 3: you're i'm sure.

1610
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 6: Officially retired numbers here Is, nine jurgensen twenty One for,

1611
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 6: taylor uh thirty Three For, sammy ball twenty Eight For,

1612
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 6: darryl green and forty Nine For.

1613
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: Bobby mitchell bobby the, official retires.

1614
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: Epic retires are there any numbers.

1615
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 6: That aren't retired like You, mentioned monk they're, not retired but.

1616
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 9: They or we should or like seven one None USE

1617
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 9: like i was, gonna say like when you go, down

1618
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 9: there they show you the sheet, available numbers and THERE'S

1619
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 9: like i want, to say, there's nine maybe ten that

1620
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 9: are blacked out.

1621
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: Completely, game yeah, you can't you can't wear you can't

1622
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: use it.

1623
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 3: For.

1624
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: Practice yeah do.

1625
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 6: You think that there's any guys that like will eventually

1626
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 6: get like let's say When b Mitch or fletcher eventually

1627
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 6: get Into the Hall, of fame does that like automatically like,

1628
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 6: all right for now one this? Is retired?

1629
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 2: Does it it should do it should put it should

1630
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: it should make That the Hall.

1631
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 4: Of fame is the one astros, that, says gone retire.

1632
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 4: The number but if you if years keep, piling up

1633
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 4: you can't. Keep, retiring yeah like at one point you.

1634
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: Gotta. STAR yeah i think it's a really special, Player

1635
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: obviously and the guys you just mentioned, are, like yeah.

1636
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 6: Iconic play are you run into like the problem That the,

1637
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 6: yankees have where then they have so many, retired numbers.

1638
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: They don't got no camp.

1639
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 4: Wear anything like people got to go pick thirty nine

1640
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 4: At the yankees right now because, They, were.

1641
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah why are?

1642
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 6: Twenty seven what's?

1643
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: Your well, you, Know no i'm just curious what well Between,

1644
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: me brad which it's a couple lest they didn't ward.

1645
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 4: That, number YEAH and i think this, MAN'S face i

1646
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 4: think To the, washington fandom they hold they hold that

1647
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 4: number very close to, their HEART and i respect them

1648
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 4: for not letting pedestrians wear.

1649
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: THAT number i respect them for not just letting anybody Put.

1650
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 6: That jersey so you're saying you're the last one to wear.

1651
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 6: Twenty seven i'm, saying that have you known any other

1652
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 6: twenty seven?

1653
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 2: Since? Me yeah, well yeah.

1654
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 5: They there.

1655
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 6: Has been to, be fair it's only been one player

1656
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 6: to wear twenty seven. After you it was one year,

1657
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 6: After You, larry johnson and Somebody had, yeah, yeah now

1658
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 6: to be fair in, that number he played only two

1659
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 6: games and had five. Total yards, excuse.

1660
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: Me, five attempts two. Total yards you didn't see the field. That,

1661
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: much Yeah so i'll give.

1662
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 5: You that it's probably easy to forget it was, out

1663
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 5: there but you don't really care because, five yards no

1664
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 5: five carries for, Two yards twenty seven has been resting,

1665
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 5: over there.

1666
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: All right respect for the. Old smooter people don't like.

1667
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: It shooter, so yeah no one's.

1668
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 6: Wearing It since Larry, john.

1669
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah so y'all don't find. It Fascinating so jenson was

1670
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 2: a hell of a player.

1671
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 4: Now here, but, Listen Hey, Kansas City larry johnson Ran,

1672
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 4: the Tato.

1673
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: Ran potato so if somebody came up to you, and, said,

1674
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: HEY fred i want to wear, twenty seven what do,

1675
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 1: You say.

1676
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 4: You know i'm gonna Pull the james Thrash and i'm,

1677
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 4: Gonna say i'm gonna pray.

1678
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 2: ON y'all.

1679
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 10: I, ask jeez, OH no i would just wear it

1680
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 10: LIKE it's. I retired i don't even ask you what

1681
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 10: are you?

1682
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,879
Speaker 4: Talking About all i'm Saying is i'm More michaeh irvin

1683
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 4: when it comes, To NUMBERS like i like The way, mike.

1684
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: RETIRED though i.

1685
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 2: Just like The Way michael. Irvin.

1686
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 4: HEAD yeah i like The Way michael irvin loves to

1687
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 4: give height eight to the. BEST received i, love, that

1688
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 4: yeah because, they, mean hey they'll, never die like it's

1689
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 4: never been dead as.

1690
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: A number i. Enjoyed it so put it, like, this

1691
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: right let me ask.

1692
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 4: You this let's, Say hypothetically i'm just throwing it out

1693
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 4: this as we having this number.

1694
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 2: Crunching shit What if gabe makes the team and his

1695
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: wish is to wear. Twenty one that's.

1696
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: Pretty, cool well the name on, A.

1697
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 2: Jersey, stell taylor is. His, BROTHER yeah i probably.

1698
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 3: Have to consult he probably, wonder well he probably would

1699
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 3: have called it something before he would a.

1700
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: Twenty one he probably. To, Six no, I've.

1701
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah i've Talked Against. Sean college that's his dream is

1702
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 4: to wear twenty one For, the WASHINGTON.

1703
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: And i probably have to ask, his, estate right like,

1704
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: his daddy his daughter and.

1705
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: His, dad yeah like, his family like they would love to.

1706
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: SEE it i don't have no what you call on that,

1707
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: for US so i, Wouldn't whatever i'd be, with it

1708
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: you KNOW what? I mean, Oh, Mind yeah.

1709
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 4: I'm just saying since we was talking numbers in legacy

1710
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 4: like that legacy, like sometime to see something active is

1711
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 4: to bring it back.

1712
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,719
Speaker 2: To, life, yeah no, it's true.

1713
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 6: It's true so before, WE end i know we're going a,

1714
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 6: LITTLE long i want TO can i say two things

1715
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 6: as a, fan here? All right so the first one

1716
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 6: IS is i know a lot of people have worn

1717
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 6: eighty nine, Since, you tanna but when you say eighty

1718
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 6: nine Here, in washington we all, thank you LIKE that's,

1719
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 6: i know it's. Not retired other players can, wear it but, that's,

1720
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 6: you man that's. Eighty nine eighty to NINE, in Dc.

1721
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 6: That's tanna they don't even call me my name.

1722
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: Out. Here nine that's what They, got instagram.

1723
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: Even though the name's.

1724
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 6: Not, retired man that's, you know.

1725
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 3: So crazy and that's, the thing Like what, fred mentioned

1726
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 3: like we from a different, ERA too i think, you

1727
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 3: know fans always. On one they need to retire. Your jersey,

1728
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 3: i'm like what, come on it'll be. For REAL but

1729
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 3: i respect that for the eight years. Of watching you

1730
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 3: KNOW what?

1731
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: I mean that eighty nine meant Something, mit mouse, you

1732
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 2: know like this is what. It MEANS but i. Understand

1733
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: too at the end of, the, day man we come.

1734
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: And go you See what.

1735
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 3: I'm, saying SO but i appreciate the ones that do

1736
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 3: support the eighty, nine because, TRUST me i see a lot.

1737
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: Of them you deserve it.

1738
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 6: For, sure yeah, and, then uh it was a fun

1739
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 6: bit we were. HAVING before i just WENT because i

1740
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 6: want our fans to. Comment HERE but i Was telling

1741
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 6: logan could he be? Top ten number? Eighty two and

1742
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 6: then he don't want To get logan to be a

1743
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 6: top ten?

1744
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 11: Something is is It in washington or just definitely, just overall, like,

1745
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 11: guy no, let's go. Let's go let's say he's number

1746
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 11: one and just start letting people see where. HE falls

1747
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 11: i think you could be is on that?

1748
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: Eighty?

1749
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 3: Two, okay yeah so you're, all right he ain't play

1750
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 3: Longer and logan, hill right, so no he doesn't have.

1751
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: To be, i'm saying we're Gonna give we're Gonna give logan. To,

1752
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: nod yeah we got to.

1753
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 3: Find something so, let's, say Okay, Hey logan logan, like,

1754
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 3: myself man he's an. Honest guy he's nothing to sit

1755
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 3: here and BE like i. Went down THAT'S what i

1756
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 3: would Say, is okay let's say let's give. It something so, Let's,

1757
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 3: say okay the eighty two that played Longer, in washington

1758
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: let's see if he can.

1759
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: Be Shot what, i'm saying watching, FOR sure i think

1760
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: let's see what we.

1761
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: Can find so to, the fans.

1762
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 3: TOP ten nfl for all, the years and See if

1763
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 3: logan is the top eighty two that played The and

1764
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 3: wight two is a.

1765
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: Ugly number that's.

1766
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: A great, title number great number If.

1767
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: It's logan think about what we were just.

1768
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: Going through there's Like five hall of famers that, have

1769
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: It Like, Jason Whedon Jason, John, taylor okay. You're, four

1770
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: yeah and then there's the dude that Played, for pittsburgh,

1771
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: the receiver, Star, BALLER like, i mean we're just your.

1772
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: Top five you're in top five?

1773
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 3: Right Now, no mark no duperhead eighty five and, eighty three,

1774
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 3: eighty five.

1775
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: Eighty, Two's Yeah mike dicker was, eighty One.

1776
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 2: Right i'm not mistaken One.

1777
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 3: TO ingram's i don't know If It's bobby ingram Or

1778
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: The ingram martin Won the, ingland though.

1779
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 6: And c's wide receivers that are going to do.

1780
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: Eat YOURS like i was just thinking, About it, i'm

1781
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: like there's a bunch of Guys Like.

1782
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 6: Jimmy smith first, Of, all jimmy it's some guy, that,

1783
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 6: yeah okay you, knew something, You Know.

1784
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 2: Jimmy jackson, Mission boy oh yeah. He did he went

1785
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 2: to my rival. High School jimmy smith is.

1786
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 4: Balling, man, like LISTEN when i Went To dream Camp

1787
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 4: and steve McNair THROUGH when i was in, high School

1788
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 4: And jimmy kane that was the FIRST time i just got.

1789
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 2: Ran through as. A player AND when i, told you

1790
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: like the pros were pregnant, with that that's crazy they.

1791
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: Did THAT so i still can't.

1792
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 2: Believe, that yeah it actually.

1793
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: Taught us. I'm sorry the. Wide receivers i'm, telling you

1794
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of we do, tight ends but.

1795
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 2: We, Do, Washington. WASHINGTON washington i want to get, a

1796
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 2: dog you Know what. I'm saying to be realistic, With,

1797
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 2: IT well i think that's gonna do it for. This

1798
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 2: show it's, a good pretty. Wrong show.

1799
01:16:59,080 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: Like we had.

1800
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 3: More, conversation yeah so there's a lot. OF numbers I

1801
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 3: think logan did it on purpose so we can go.

1802
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 3: Eat lunch that is for SURE why i.

1803
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: Did it i'm a big. Lunch guy, so well, you

1804
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: know still gotta, eat something. All right that's A differ.

1805
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: Today show please make sure you like to subscribe where

1806
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,160
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1807
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,080
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1808
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,439
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1809
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,720
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