Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm Jacob Schick and I'm joined by my co host
Speaker 2: and wife.
Speaker 1: Ashley Shick.
Speaker 3: Jake is a third generation combat Marine and I'm a
Speaker 3: gold Star granddaughter. And we work together to serve military veterans,
Speaker 3: first responders, frontline healthcare workers, and their families with mental
Speaker 3: and emotional wellness through traditional and non traditional therapy.
Speaker 4: At One Tribe Foundation, we.
Speaker 2: Believe everyone has a story to tell, not only about
Speaker 2: the peaks, but also the valleys they've.
Speaker 1: Been through to get them where they are today.
Speaker 3: Each week, we invite a guests to tell us their story,
Speaker 3: to share with us the lessons they've learned that shape
Speaker 3: who they are and what they're doing to pay it
Speaker 3: forward and give back.
Speaker 2: Our mission with this show is to dig deep in
Speaker 2: our guest's journey so that we can celebrate the hope
Speaker 2: and inspiration their story has to offer.
Speaker 4: We're thrilled you're joining us again.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff.
Speaker 3: Our guest today is a great man. We met at
Speaker 3: Jake's alma mater and where he played football, Koppel High
Speaker 3: School in North Texas.
Speaker 1: Go Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Regardless of where you are in the world, football is religion.
Speaker 2: Here in Texas and Texas high school football head coaches
Speaker 2: are highly regarded.
Speaker 4: High school football brings communities together, and the coaches are
Speaker 4: the ones who help shape these young athletes and leaders
Speaker 4: in their communities.
Speaker 2: We are so stoked to have head football coach at
Speaker 2: Coppel High School, Coach Antonio Wiley here on the Good Stuff.
Speaker 3: He's here to share his journey with us of growing
Speaker 3: up in East Dallas in the path.
Speaker 4: That led him to where he is today.
Speaker 3: Antonio Wiley, thank you so much for joining us and
Speaker 3: welcome to the Good Stuff.
Speaker 5: Thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 3: We're thrilled you're here. We talk about football a lot
Speaker 3: on this podcast.
Speaker 4: We just do.
Speaker 3: We're in Texas, Jake and I both grew up in it,
Speaker 3: and from the moment we met you, we were.
Speaker 4: Like, we've got to have Antonio on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Coach Antonio.
Speaker 4: Coach Antonio just called me coach Antonio.
Speaker 5: Why they don't do that?
Speaker 4: Not your full name? Coach Antonio?
Speaker 2: Cool the way, Yeah, but that's like asking me when
Speaker 2: a four star general walks up to me, he's like
Speaker 2: just call me Tom. I'm like, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Like No, It's like I think it's a trap.
Speaker 3: But not only are you a head football coach in Texas,
Speaker 3: you're the head football coach at Coppel High School, which
Speaker 3: is drum roll please, Jake's alma mater.
Speaker 1: Damn right, it is.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking about, telling me, go cowboy ouh,
Speaker 5: let's get it.
Speaker 1: Donet's cowboy all the way all day.
Speaker 4: Y'all could sit here and do this for like the
Speaker 4: whole the l the podcast.
Speaker 5: Some people get it and some don't.
Speaker 2: You guys are just so energetic, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a reason that we don't suck that much, no doubt,
Speaker 2: because everything's with purpose, speed, intensity. I don't get out
Speaker 2: of bed and put my leg on before I go
Speaker 2: to the bathroom and go I'm going to go completely
Speaker 2: out of my way to be completely average today.
Speaker 5: In mys there's no place for average. If you're accept
Speaker 5: being average, you need to go find something else to
Speaker 5: do other than live because average ain't a place where
Speaker 5: I can ever survive. Being a competitor and being an
Speaker 5: athletics your whole life and growing up a certain way,
Speaker 5: it breeds for competition, and if you accept being average,
Speaker 5: you need to go play with the average. Kids don't
Speaker 5: come in my world.
Speaker 3: And that's one of the main reasons we wanted to
Speaker 3: have you here on the good stuff, because that is
Speaker 3: what it's all about, right, that mindset, that good energy
Speaker 3: that you just again have exuded from the moment that
Speaker 3: Jake and I met you. We've been blessed to work
Speaker 3: with not only your athletes, but a lot of the
Speaker 3: athletes at cop LISD on some of our service projects
Speaker 3: that we have. We love getting the kids involved, to
Speaker 3: include our own. But I mean, you've got a fascinating story.
Speaker 3: Take us back to the beginning.
Speaker 5: Grew up Inner City Dallas. You know, a few blocks
Speaker 5: from the State Fair, a neighborhood that was really high
Speaker 5: crime rates, a lot of drugs, a lot of things
Speaker 5: like that going on in the neighborhood. Crimes are normal there.
Speaker 5: Gunshots are normal in that neighborhood. There's no such thing as, oh,
Speaker 5: I live in a safe place. It was safe because
Speaker 5: we made it safe because we took care of each other.
Speaker 5: But outside people coming in and that kind of stuff,
Speaker 5: or you had conflict with somebody from four blocks over.
Speaker 5: You know, that's the thing about that neighborhood. We call
Speaker 5: it East Dallas. But some people if you drove to
Speaker 5: it like this is South Dallas. But you better not
Speaker 5: tell us guys who were from East Dallas that to
Speaker 5: South Dallas because we would have a problem with that,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it was a tough neighborhood.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't change anything about that because it molded me
Speaker 5: into the man I am today. I never walk out
Speaker 5: worried about what's gonna happen. I just go in and
Speaker 5: I say, whatever takes place, we're gonna jump in with
Speaker 5: both feet and find a way to handle it. You know,
Speaker 5: when we were coming up, games were a big deal.
Speaker 5: During that time, we didn't have a lot, and I
Speaker 5: didn't know it because we had I had a big
Speaker 5: family growing up there. You know, we went through times
Speaker 5: with not having a lot. Then my dad started a
Speaker 5: playing company and that changed and things we had a lot,
Speaker 5: and then we went back and forth. You know, you
Speaker 5: go to times where lights might be off and then
Speaker 5: in other times you've got you know, brand new cars
Speaker 5: and other thing going your way. But I think growing
Speaker 5: up in the neighborhood I grew up in, you see
Speaker 5: a lot of things, you know. You see a lot
Speaker 5: of a single parent homes, You see a lot of
Speaker 5: young men get lost into the system. And I was
Speaker 5: blessed because you know, I was that young man who
Speaker 5: would toe that line. But I knew my dad would
Speaker 5: kill me if I went too far, you know, But
Speaker 5: also not saying I didn't go too far. Sometimes I
Speaker 5: was just blessed God saw fit to let you walk
Speaker 5: away from that situation, as opposed to where two days
Speaker 5: later one of your friends didn't walk away from a situation,
Speaker 5: or they got caught into something that would have normally
Speaker 5: been a routine. You did something and you thought, all
Speaker 5: it's easy, and all of a sudden it turns out
Speaker 5: bad for him. And when I turned thirteen, I remember
Speaker 5: twelve thirteen, we bought a house. We moved a pleasant grove.
Speaker 5: You know. I was from eat Dallas right there, and
Speaker 5: so I'm thinking, hey, we're moving up. Don't know, not
Speaker 5: much difference in the neighborhood. Just you got a brick
Speaker 5: house now instead of up here in Beam. That was
Speaker 5: the one thing I went to Samuel, But games were
Speaker 5: still relevant. I grew up in a place where right
Speaker 5: there in these Dallas, where everybody were bloods, and it
Speaker 5: was you're not in a gang, but everybody around you
Speaker 5: is somewhat affiliated and that kind of stuff. So it's
Speaker 5: one of those deals where when I went to Pleasant
Speaker 5: grow I didn't understand it. That was unc territory when
Speaker 5: I was in school, and they were all crips. So
Speaker 5: I'm walking down the street with red jerseys and red
Speaker 5: laces own and thinking everything's okay. Well I learned pretty quick.
Speaker 5: I got jumped a couple of times time. But you
Speaker 5: know what, life gave me opportunities that I would never
Speaker 5: change anything about my life. My dad was a great
Speaker 5: man in the short time that he was here on
Speaker 5: her with us, great man. He taught me how to
Speaker 5: take care of my family. He taught me the value
Speaker 5: of just doing things the right way. I think that
Speaker 5: all came from my grandpa, who was also a great man,
Speaker 5: who would just give you the shirt off his back
Speaker 5: and do anything for a person. He's one of the
Speaker 5: best souls you ever gonna meet. I remember one time vividly.
Speaker 5: My mom tells this story. If you listen to her talk,
Speaker 5: she'll say, my grandpa just got a new car and
Speaker 5: she's out. He let her drive it and she wrecks it,
Speaker 5: so she's freaking out. She don't know what to do.
Speaker 5: She gets him on the phone. That was back before
Speaker 5: cell phones were real heavy. So you call him out
Speaker 5: the landline and she goes, mister Clarence, I'm so sorry
Speaker 5: that I wrecked your car. And he goes, baby, are
Speaker 5: you all right? And she goes, yeah, he said, forget
Speaker 5: that car, we'll get another one at something. You know,
Speaker 5: that's just kind of the person he was. He was
Speaker 5: all about and he would tell his sons when they
Speaker 5: were wrong about their daughter in laws. They were all
Speaker 5: crazy about him, you know, because like he got with
Speaker 5: great credit and that kind of stuff. So when when
Speaker 5: my dad got older he started having business and stuff
Speaker 5: and he was doing well, my mom wanted a car
Speaker 5: well my dad and didn't have to established credit that
Speaker 5: my grandpa had, so he goes in. He was that guy.
Speaker 5: Though once he said no about something, he meant it.
Speaker 5: So when he went to when he went to him,
Speaker 5: my mom go to car lots, and he'd ask my
Speaker 5: mom before they walked in there, how much can you
Speaker 5: afford to pay for this car? What's the monthly payment?
Speaker 5: And she'd go this and he go okay. So when
Speaker 5: they walk in there, you know, salesman always comes in
Speaker 5: with these sales pictures and that kind of stuff. And
Speaker 5: they come in and it could be ten cents over
Speaker 5: what she said, and he goes, Nope, ain't doing it.
Speaker 5: And if they can't budget, he's not budgeting. He'll tell her,
Speaker 5: let's get in the car. She'd be like, I can
Speaker 5: do that. Nope, you said this, and that's what we're doing.
Speaker 5: You know, I'll tell you this is my life. My
Speaker 5: life's been great. I had a great family. We were
Speaker 5: poor and didn't even know it sometimes, you know what,
Speaker 5: I just had three but I had a big family,
Speaker 5: and so we talk about this. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 5: My grandma had seven children, one girl. My family is
Speaker 5: full of boys, I mean like from the top, so
Speaker 5: that when people got in their scuffles with us, they
Speaker 5: just like, oh crap, there's a try full of boys.
Speaker 5: Because it's like within my grandma's children, there's only my
Speaker 5: cousin Debora and my cousin Niecy are the two girls
Speaker 5: in the immediate family right there. The rest of all
Speaker 5: of her boys had boys too. And so you go
Speaker 5: back to because I don't have any sisters, I got
Speaker 5: two younger brothers. So it's just like we've got a
Speaker 5: family full of boys. You know what. I mean yes,
Speaker 5: and they were all a little rough cut, so when
Speaker 5: it came time to get their hands dirty and mix
Speaker 5: it up, we were Definitely. It was one of those
Speaker 5: deals where if you come home and you've been in
Speaker 5: a tussle with somebody and they didn't feel like you
Speaker 5: wanted choose from to go back over and we're gonna
Speaker 5: do it again, you know what I mean, So you
Speaker 5: better get it done right the first time, you know.
Speaker 3: So we talk about this a lot trauma, right, But
Speaker 3: in your case, it sounds like you had some very
Speaker 3: strong men that, regardless of your environment, you had these
Speaker 3: strong examples your grandfather and your father to live by
Speaker 3: that they actually passed on that generational goodness of this
Speaker 3: is how to be a man.
Speaker 5: Yep, they did. They did a great job. The men
Speaker 5: in my life were great, But we had some strong
Speaker 5: women in our families too, my mom, my aunts. They
Speaker 5: all just kind of locked on and held us down. Now,
Speaker 5: I don't get me wrong. Did we get in trouble. Absolutely,
Speaker 5: did we go out and find ways to do things
Speaker 5: that we knew were possibly going to be suspect from
Speaker 5: time to time. Absolutely, we also figured out that there
Speaker 5: ain't no way to avoid it. Some people want to
Speaker 5: avoid conflict so much in their life that they never
Speaker 5: deal with those tough situations. Me and I think it's
Speaker 5: been one of the biggest blessings of my life is
Speaker 5: the fact that I learned how to take on conflict
Speaker 5: head on and not dodge it and not avoid it
Speaker 5: and have tough conversations, and when it had to get physical,
Speaker 5: we took care of it and we moved on. Nowadays,
Speaker 5: I think there's a weird dynamic going on because you
Speaker 5: got people who want to be tough in front of
Speaker 5: a camera on social media, but they also don't want
Speaker 5: to actually do it when the rubber meets the road.
Speaker 4: Keyboard Warriors, oh I keyboard warriors.
Speaker 5: No, That right there drives me crazy.
Speaker 2: We live in a very passive society. People go out
Speaker 2: of their way to avoid conflict or discomfort. Nobody wants
Speaker 2: to be uncomfortable, and it's like that's the only place
Speaker 2: you coul grow, you know, and you've got to meet
Speaker 2: it head on. You have to step up and book
Speaker 2: and right things, just like we tell the boys all
Speaker 2: the time. Well you heard me tell your boys, Hit Coppell,
Speaker 2: right things, right reasons, arrest, take care of yourself, no
Speaker 2: matter what, if you fail, it better beat one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: Don't be a fright to fail. That's the fear of
Speaker 5: failure drives me every day. I tell people this all
Speaker 5: the time. I say, because if I fail, I have
Speaker 5: fifteen assistant coaches. I have a wife and kids at home.
Speaker 5: They have wives and children at home. So if I
Speaker 5: fail as a head coach, I don't only fail myself,
Speaker 5: I failed them, so my job. What did I say?
Speaker 5: They said, The fear of failure forces me to prepare.
Speaker 5: And if you're not preparing, you're preparing to fail.
Speaker 1: That's what I always.
Speaker 2: I said it yesterday morning, I said it this afternoon.
Speaker 2: I said all the time, the fear of failure dictates
Speaker 2: your greatness.
Speaker 5: What do you do with that failure? Are you afraid
Speaker 5: to take a shot because you might fail?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: I tell our kids all the time. I say, if
Speaker 5: I put a mirror in front of you. I talk
Speaker 5: to my football team. If I put a mirror in
Speaker 5: front of you and it said, this is what you
Speaker 5: have to go through to have a chance to play
Speaker 5: sixteen games, to have a chance to play for a
Speaker 5: state championship, are you willing to go through it? Even
Speaker 5: though you might go zer and ten. That doesn't mean
Speaker 5: you're not gonna fail. This is what you have to
Speaker 5: go to to have a chance. How many of you
Speaker 5: guys are gonna say, Coach, I'm in the boat still,
Speaker 5: let's do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had these life lessons that a lot of kids,
Speaker 2: like our kids do not have. Don't have a clue
Speaker 2: what that's like, don't have an idea like, oh, it
Speaker 2: depends on what color shoelaces I wear when I walk
Speaker 2: like I might have to, I might have to throw down.
Speaker 1: That is not a thing where they are.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I love this episode because you're proof positive.
Speaker 1: That you channel it for good. You use it for good.
Speaker 2: And not only have you used it for good, you
Speaker 2: practice gratitude daily because of it. And that is a mindset.
Speaker 2: That's a decision you make and you use it to
Speaker 2: your advantage. I just think it's an awesome thing that
Speaker 2: is also unfortunately a dying thing in this country.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing I tell you a lot of time,
Speaker 5: some of the best leaders are in rough neighborhoods. What
Speaker 5: did I lead kids to do? What did I lead
Speaker 5: their community in? That's the difference. Like some of the
Speaker 5: worst criminals are the best leaders. People believe in them.
Speaker 5: You go back through generation some of the biggest gangsters
Speaker 5: and all that stuff. What did they do. They got
Speaker 5: people to believe in them and by their message. It's
Speaker 5: the same thing. So you can generate that power one
Speaker 5: way or the other. You can decide to take people
Speaker 5: down this path, lead them to a place of destruction,
Speaker 5: or you can decide to take down the path of
Speaker 5: greatness and say, hey, we're gonna find a way to
Speaker 5: do right by people, do right by society. But it's
Speaker 5: funny how you brought that up about our kids. Don't
Speaker 5: understand that, because that was one of my biggest concerns
Speaker 5: when I walked into Coppell as the head football coach,
Speaker 5: because I was at which toftose Hershey, which has a
Speaker 5: different socio economic status. I mean, it's different population, and
Speaker 5: those kids needed me on a different scale. And in
Speaker 5: a way that kind of fed my soul a little
Speaker 5: bit as a human being because you get to go
Speaker 5: out and every day you having a major impact on
Speaker 5: youth lives. So the way I looked at it was
Speaker 5: when I went to Copel and then I had to
Speaker 5: kind of readjust because you get from the outside looking
Speaker 5: in you think everything's always great because there's a little
Speaker 5: bit of a bubble there, but it's not always what
Speaker 5: people expected to be. And those kids needed me too,
Speaker 5: just on a different level. Sometimes they need reality because
Speaker 5: they don't get it anywhere else. Fact, and we have
Speaker 5: great kids, great parents, great community, all that put together.
Speaker 5: But one thing I get to do in the football
Speaker 5: world is I get to give you reality all the time.
Speaker 5: There's a reality check when you come to me every day.
Speaker 5: There is no well I felt like I deserve now
Speaker 5: you don't deserve anything. The only thing in life is
Speaker 5: guaranteed to you. And football is a hard time. So
Speaker 5: let's figure it out.
Speaker 3: So how did your path lead you to football when
Speaker 3: you were a young kid there in eats Dallas, oh Man.
Speaker 5: We moved to Pleasant Grove, like I said, right there,
Speaker 5: and I started. I didn't play high school football to
Speaker 5: my sophomore year, and so I was a pretty athletic kid.
Speaker 5: Could run, could jump, and do all that well. Going
Speaker 5: through my sophomore year, I felt like I should be
Speaker 5: a varsity player, but you know I was wasn't all
Speaker 5: the way accountable. I was just kind of flirting with
Speaker 5: the line. They didn't want to buy in one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: So going into my junior year, my high school coach
Speaker 5: Steve Pearce, who's still the head coach at Dallas Samuel Right.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, still drive that same little white Toyota probably too.
Speaker 5: He calls me into his office and he goes Antonio.
Speaker 5: He said, there ain't no more straddling the fence for you.
Speaker 5: He said, you either all the way in or all
Speaker 5: the way out. I was that kid that was gonna
Speaker 5: run around, possibly get in trouble, but nothing too major,
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. But I wasn't committed to the
Speaker 5: task at hand. I wouldn't committed to the team goal
Speaker 5: way that I needed to be. And so he told me,
Speaker 5: he said you all the way in, all the way out.
Speaker 5: He said, to tell you something, if you hangle crap,
Speaker 5: you're gonna smell like crap. And that was his exact
Speaker 5: message to me. And you know, I decided that at
Speaker 5: that point I wanted to lock in and be a
Speaker 5: high school football player and do that. Things went well.
Speaker 5: I ended up getting a scholarship to go play at
Speaker 5: Eastern New Mexico University and for the next four or
Speaker 5: five years. That was great. I played straight through four
Speaker 5: straight years It's weird though, because as you played through
Speaker 5: those times in college, you have this structure, Boom, we're
Speaker 5: gonna we're gonna work out at six am. We got
Speaker 5: to be in class by eight, so you have to
Speaker 5: eat breakfast between workouts and class. From eighth to noon,
Speaker 5: you always had class and then you'd have two o'clock
Speaker 5: position meetings and then so you'd have that little time
Speaker 5: at two hours span or to eat lunch and get
Speaker 5: ready for meetings. You go do that. So this is
Speaker 5: an everyday reoccurrence. So two o'clock position meetings, you on
Speaker 5: to feel at three thirty, off the field at five
Speaker 5: forty five or something like that, head to the cafeteria,
Speaker 5: go eat, go back, go to meetings, come back, do homework,
Speaker 5: and do it all again. It's just a repetitive miss.
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden they snatched that structure
Speaker 5: from around you. When you're done playing football and you
Speaker 5: walk around lost. For I was lost. I mean for
Speaker 5: three semesters. My GPA went from like a three seven
Speaker 5: to a one nine because I didn't I did absolutely nothing.
Speaker 5: I wasn't going to class half the time, wasn't doing anything.
Speaker 5: Lost that purpose, yes, because that was my day. That
Speaker 5: was what drove me, you know what I mean every day.
Speaker 5: I knew it wasn't even a question in it. So
Speaker 5: my coach called me in, another coach that was big
Speaker 5: in my life, Eric Bowl, and he goes, you know
Speaker 5: cause my parents like a lie to them. In college,
Speaker 5: you say, oh yeah, my grades are grazy great. Ain't
Speaker 5: nobody checking them up?
Speaker 4: I'm going to class, I'm doing Ain't nothing going on.
Speaker 5: You're good, ain't Ain't no teacher call and said, hey, Antonio,
Speaker 5: ain't been turning there nothing that don't work that way.
Speaker 5: He said, you're grown in now. So coach Boll called
Speaker 5: me because he knew he should have saved. He said, hey, tone,
Speaker 5: he called me tone. So I go in as obvious,
Speaker 5: say where you being?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 5: I go, coach, I ain't even gonna lie to you.
Speaker 5: I ain't been doing nothing. I ain't even going to class,
Speaker 5: ain't doing nothing. I'm just lost, man, I said, I
Speaker 5: don't know what to do. He goes, let me ask
Speaker 5: you this, what kind of life do you want to
Speaker 5: give a little Tom? Because I had my oldest son
Speaker 5: at this time. I had him when I was a
Speaker 5: sophomore in college. And I go, coach, I ain't never
Speaker 5: got to be rich in life, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: I said, All I got to be able to do
Speaker 5: is buy my son a car when he leaves to
Speaker 5: go to college, and raise him to be a productive
Speaker 5: human being, an asset to society, not a blight, not
Speaker 5: a leech. I want him to do something in society,
Speaker 5: be an asset to his community. He goes, well, have
Speaker 5: you ever thought about coaching? I go, no, not really.
Speaker 5: I love a game, but I ain't never thought about
Speaker 5: coaching it, you know what I mean. And so he
Speaker 5: had me to come out. He talked to me a
Speaker 5: little bit. So I decided to do it. So I
Speaker 5: go in. I've changed my major at four times by
Speaker 5: this point, so I'm so far away from graduating it's
Speaker 5: unreal probably. And then so I go in. They say,
Speaker 5: I said what I got to do to get into education?
Speaker 5: I want to teach. I want to coach. And he goes, well,
Speaker 5: it's a little late. You've missed the train on the
Speaker 5: education side of it, he said, but you can change
Speaker 5: your major from I like. At that time, I was
Speaker 5: Business Communication Systems. So he said, you can change it
Speaker 5: to university studies with emphasis on history and physical education.
Speaker 5: He said, but you got a one nine GPA, so
Speaker 5: you're gonna take twenty one hours. You can be done
Speaker 5: in one semester. And you got to get a four
Speaker 5: point oh GPA on it at the time. So I'm
Speaker 5: over there, I'm like, sign me up. And so I
Speaker 5: gotta go to so I gotta go to the dean's office,
Speaker 5: and they got they gotta approve it. And I did it,
Speaker 5: and I feed it out and I finished it. I
Speaker 5: look back on those key moments, and a couple of them.
Speaker 5: Outside of my dad and my family and my mom,
Speaker 5: coaches had a major impact on where I landed.
Speaker 3: So going back to when that high school coach sat
Speaker 3: you down, what was it like when you stopped straddling
Speaker 3: the fence and you fully committed to football.
Speaker 5: You lose some friends along the way that normally not
Speaker 5: so much as you lose them, but y'all grow apart.
Speaker 5: You don't become enemies or anything, just grow apart because
Speaker 5: y'all's interest levels changed. You're growing into the next phase
Speaker 5: of your life as a person, and they're going down
Speaker 5: whatever path they chose. And if those two paths on
Speaker 5: the line, it naturally creates separation. You still love them.
Speaker 5: You know, you'll still say what's up, You're still hang
Speaker 5: out with each other, but you know that day to
Speaker 5: day interaction with y'all is going to be lessened because
Speaker 5: y'all don't have the same goal right now, right.
Speaker 2: And that takes a lot of conviction and discipline too.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that being clean and sober, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of my great friends were no
Speaker 2: longer my great friends when I decided to get clean
Speaker 2: and sober. And it's the same type of thing. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: well I want to be down this path. You're gonna
Speaker 2: say on that path, that's fine, but I'm not coming
Speaker 2: over there.
Speaker 5: I've been there, don't ask me to, right. And the
Speaker 5: good friends, the true friends, the one that actually care
Speaker 5: about you, they won't try to drag you down there.
Speaker 5: They'll let you take your own path and they'll still
Speaker 5: say what's up. But the dealer, they just know y'all
Speaker 5: have grown apart.
Speaker 4: What was it about football?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 5: Is not about football, I say, it's a lot, man,
Speaker 5: But it's the brotherhood part of it. The part of it.
Speaker 5: You got a group of guys that when y'all walk
Speaker 5: in there and y'all are playing this game together. This
Speaker 5: game is all focused on all of us doing our
Speaker 5: individual job to finish one goal. And when that unit
Speaker 5: works as a whole and things go the way they should,
Speaker 5: it's a beautiful thing. It's like any other thing in life.
Speaker 5: You watch a car come down to the assembling line,
Speaker 5: one of those machines work wrong, it's shut the whole
Speaker 5: assembly line down. Watch a good football team work as
Speaker 5: a unit. Watch a good offensive line work as a unit.
Speaker 5: Offensive line and the other unsung heroes of a football game,
Speaker 5: because everybody can tell when the old lineman is doing
Speaker 5: it wrong, and they get no credit when they're doing
Speaker 5: it right. For nobody but the o line parents. And
Speaker 5: one thing they gotta tell running back to my quarterbacks,
Speaker 5: you can celebrate with the rest of those skinny dudes anytime.
Speaker 5: Go celebrate with your with your old line. Go tell
Speaker 5: them thank you because he kept your quarterback clean. He
Speaker 5: may created that gap for you to run the ball.
Speaker 5: But watch a good old line, watch a good line
Speaker 5: of work in unison. They take the first step running
Speaker 5: outside zone or running zone, the zone comes up. Whatever,
Speaker 5: it's a beautiful thing when you watch it happen.
Speaker 4: Giant ballas there's nothing in the world like it. There's
Speaker 4: nothing in the world.
Speaker 2: Like one of the one of the coaches we know,
Speaker 2: we're having dinner with his wife and it was like, god,
Speaker 2: I mean, these guys are just getting bigger, stronger, faster.
Speaker 2: And he was coaching another line and he said, you know, Jake,
Speaker 2: really what it is is they're just giant ballerinas.
Speaker 5: I think they're a lot tougher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I but it was like, you watch how
Speaker 2: fast their feet are, how light they are on their feet,
Speaker 2: and they're these massive human beings. And it's like we
Speaker 2: tell the boys all the time, you got quick feet,
Speaker 2: you can play in the sports.
Speaker 1: Gotta have quick feet.
Speaker 5: I went out and watched a Cowboys practice last fall
Speaker 5: one day and Tyron Smith walks up and he is
Speaker 5: a massive human being. I mean you walk up on
Speaker 5: him and you know, you think, oh, lineman, you think
Speaker 5: out of shape kind of good. You know, No, these
Speaker 5: dudes are six seven machines that got six packs. And
Speaker 5: I mean, you're like, somebody, somebody bring my gun. If
Speaker 5: I get into it him, it's gonna be something with
Speaker 5: you know, you don't want like that guy. If he
Speaker 5: hits on your wife. You're like, hey, really that's fine.
Speaker 5: Just you hey, ba, we're good. He didn't say anything,
Speaker 5: let's go. Let's go because I don't. I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: back down. But I know this could get ugly real fast.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. It's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean just watching the combine and watching it's like
Speaker 2: one of these giants, I think it was three.
Speaker 1: Hundred and what was he?
Speaker 2: I think he was like three seventy or something like that,
Speaker 2: and you ran, I think it was a sub four seven.
Speaker 5: That's like a Volkswagon running down, you know, like a
Speaker 5: little v W. Yeah, to be in front of that,
Speaker 5: So you know, that's that's I mean. But that's what
Speaker 5: we're getting now. I'm getting to that generation where I'm
Speaker 5: not the old coach, but I'm getting to where I've
Speaker 5: been in it for a while. So I get these
Speaker 5: young coaches that are twenty five, twenty six years old,
Speaker 5: and they come in, you know, the age old question
Speaker 5: about who's the greatest of all time basketball? All that
Speaker 5: I don't even get me and my Corners coach started
Speaker 5: because he he will like the day that Lebron James
Speaker 5: broke the all time scoring record, he shows up the
Speaker 5: next day with the lebron James Jersey, and so I
Speaker 5: gave him the business. I tell him, I said, win
Speaker 5: is win man, I said, And I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 5: I never seen him Jay not win it, you know,
Speaker 5: and he gets so welled up. So but you know,
Speaker 5: that's the thing these kids are. They are bigger, faster,
Speaker 5: more physical. That's why there are more serious injuries that
Speaker 5: take place because these are violent collisions that are taking
Speaker 5: place every play.
Speaker 3: Talk about the heighs and lows of a football game,
Speaker 3: how can you apply that to your life.
Speaker 5: I think that's why coaches coach football, because there's only
Speaker 5: a few things in life that's going to give you
Speaker 5: that same roller coaster of emotion that you go through
Speaker 5: on a football field, and the roller coaster of emotion
Speaker 5: you have to watch kids go through. You watch kids
Speaker 5: completely tank and they're in a bad place and you
Speaker 5: have to go pick them up, and you watch them
Speaker 5: at the height that one moment where they look up,
Speaker 5: their eyes are lit up and things are just right
Speaker 5: and it's like everything in the universe just came together
Speaker 5: for them right there in that moment. And in life,
Speaker 5: there's only a few moments outside of you know, if
Speaker 5: you're in the military, or you're a coach, or you're
Speaker 5: an athlete or something like that, that you get to
Speaker 5: experience those type of moments. That's watching your kids take
Speaker 5: their first ship, watching them be born, that first time
Speaker 5: you hold your baby, because it's a deal. Moms have
Speaker 5: an instant connection with that baby. The first time that
Speaker 5: baby moves around and they feel it it's done. Their
Speaker 5: hearts are locked in. In my opinion, dads don't develop
Speaker 5: that emotion until they hold them and until that baby's
Speaker 5: in front of them. Now, ohs crap. Life's bigger than me,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But there's only so many
Speaker 5: moments for the average human being to come out and
Speaker 5: experience those moments. But in the world of athleticism, you
Speaker 5: get to re create those moments week in and week out.
Speaker 5: That big play takes place and that kids come running
Speaker 5: to the sideline and you body fiving them and you're
Speaker 5: loud and you're screaming and you're getting after them, and hey,
Speaker 5: we're gonna know. It's one of those things I always
Speaker 5: tell them. I said, listen, let's blood in the water.
Speaker 5: Let's go finish, because our quote, our thing, this shit
Speaker 5: was deep water and you know, and we always talked about, Hey,
Speaker 5: it's getting deep now. Because my thing is when people
Speaker 5: ask me what do you mean by that, I say,
Speaker 5: we're gonna train for those places like you talked about earlier,
Speaker 5: of being in a place of discomfort. We're gonna train,
Speaker 5: We're gonna get familiar, we're gonna get used to, we're
Speaker 5: gonna get okay, we're being uncomfortable, and then we're gonna
Speaker 5: drag our opponents to that point and see if they
Speaker 5: can tread water with us, and if they can't, we're
Speaker 5: gonna drown. But I think that's the same thing we
Speaker 5: start talking about their emotional ride of life.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to want I want to run
Speaker 1: through a wall right now.
Speaker 4: I know you want to suit up and go seriously.
Speaker 1: Like I think I could do.
Speaker 2: I could give you a good four minutes probably couch.
Speaker 5: Okay. It annoyed me, probably because I wanna say I
Speaker 5: got about six hot plays, but I'm gonna say it's
Speaker 5: gonna be six plays of fury. But after that, somebody
Speaker 5: don't have to come pull me off and ambulance.
Speaker 3: I think it's so beautiful that you had this sport,
Speaker 3: that you were able to put your everything into and
Speaker 3: then turn it into a profession. How did you then
Speaker 3: enter into coaching? Okay, this is the path I'm going
Speaker 3: to go and then take us through that journey.
Speaker 5: Oh man, I knew I loved the game, and I
Speaker 5: knew I wanted to continue to be around it once
Speaker 5: I figured out coaching was the avenue to do it
Speaker 5: in You know, I started out in a little school
Speaker 5: out in Nevada, Texas Community High School had an enrollment
Speaker 5: of about three one hundred and fifty kids, and I
Speaker 5: struck goal. I got lucky. I was the first year
Speaker 5: coach that taught one PE class and got to stay
Speaker 5: in the coach's office. Brian on Neil was the head
Speaker 5: coach and got to hang out with him and talk
Speaker 5: football all day and just go through it. Those small
Speaker 5: moments that take place where a young man really needs you,
Speaker 5: you know, whether it be a life situation, life circumstance,
Speaker 5: or it's just something as small as a coach, I
Speaker 5: really can't get this. Can we stop and go back
Speaker 5: over it after practice? You know, you just see that, Oh,
Speaker 5: and that kid comes back to you five years down
Speaker 5: the road. You said something to that kid. You don't
Speaker 5: even remember seeing it, but he goes, Coach, Remember when
Speaker 5: you said this to me and you don't really but
Speaker 5: you know, but Coach, you don't know, that meant the
Speaker 5: world to me. I was struggling with this, so I
Speaker 5: was going through that, you know what I mean, those
Speaker 5: other moments in life that we'll never get back. So
Speaker 5: be intentional. Start talking about when I'm talking to kids
Speaker 5: and we're talking about life, or we're talking about whatever
Speaker 5: circumstance they bring to me, I try to be very
Speaker 5: intentional and very present in the moment with them because
Speaker 5: different kids have differ strung and I promise you some
Speaker 5: of the places I've been you'll see some real life
Speaker 5: struggles from children that you feel like, Man, I go
Speaker 5: home and I want to hoog my babies because you
Speaker 5: know they they're blessed. They don't know that life's not
Speaker 5: their bubble. They don't come you know, like when you
Speaker 5: hit that light switch at home and the lights come on.
Speaker 5: You turn that water foster and the water comes on
Speaker 5: at over that friends and there's food in there. There's
Speaker 5: kids that don't have that when they go home. You know.
Speaker 5: That's why it was a big deal for me at
Speaker 5: multiple places to make sure that we found a way
Speaker 5: to feed kids like whatever it looked like. You know,
Speaker 5: we wanted to find a way to get it done.
Speaker 5: And I'll tell you I had some people in both communities,
Speaker 5: every community that I've been into, like as a head coach,
Speaker 5: which is which Taft Falls and Copel, that are willing
Speaker 5: to go above and beyond for our kids. And that's
Speaker 5: what it's about. I mean, that's a future.
Speaker 2: And that's it, and that's a community come together for
Speaker 2: the greater good exactly to provide for that stability for
Speaker 2: that future. And it's through a sport, you know why
Speaker 2: it's a big deal. We ate lunch before we went
Speaker 2: to the game and spoke to the kids. That night,
Speaker 2: I was watching, I am serving everything, I am reading
Speaker 2: all the kids.
Speaker 1: I'm watching you, watching the.
Speaker 2: Other coaches because I wanted to see, like how wired
Speaker 2: tight is this unit that's my own mater And if
Speaker 2: I needed to call you out, I was going to
Speaker 2: And man, you got up and it was food. It
Speaker 2: was done eating, time to get back to the stadium.
Speaker 2: And it was like, as soon as you said something,
Speaker 2: I looked at Ash and I was like, he's got
Speaker 2: this shit wire tight. I said, that just reminded me
Speaker 2: in the Marine Corps. You hear one snap and it's
Speaker 2: like eyeballs and just a finger and everybody's gone.
Speaker 1: It's it was like, okay, good, they respect them. That's
Speaker 1: most important, you know that.
Speaker 5: How do you get that from them?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 5: Right consistency, I'm consistently the same person. Whether it's I'm
Speaker 5: consistently getting after their butt or I'm consistently loving on them,
Speaker 5: it's all gonna come full circle. So when I say something,
Speaker 5: I follow through.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 5: If I tell them don't, if the locker room's not clean,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get after you tomorrow. I'm gonna do it
Speaker 5: like there's no well, they almost did it right, almost
Speaker 5: gets you beat. You know, there's no almost got in
Speaker 5: from the one yard line, almost got your beat, You
Speaker 5: got stuffed. Live in the world of right now. I
Speaker 5: take care of it right now, And I tell them,
Speaker 5: how do you train kids? How do you train kids?
Speaker 5: How you train grown ups? How do you change every train?
Speaker 5: Everybody immediate response, not I was handling tomorrow. Don't put
Speaker 5: it off till tomorrow. Let's do it right now. Let's
Speaker 5: handle it right now. And I think that's living in
Speaker 5: a right now society. You know that's the world I
Speaker 5: live in, and I can live life that way as
Speaker 5: a football coach. My wife it drives her crazy because
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm fiery, I'm wired up, but I don't
Speaker 5: get stressed out like things that stress her out, Like
Speaker 5: people will call me and ask me, hey, coach, you
Speaker 5: want to come talk to us about this head job
Speaker 5: or that head job, or possibly moving here or something
Speaker 5: like that. She gets she gets all wound tight, like
Speaker 5: I don't. I told her, I said, what do you
Speaker 5: wound worried about? I'm passionate about everything I do, but
Speaker 5: situations don't stress me out. I don't live in a
Speaker 5: stressful place. Now, I'm wound tight. My heart rate gets up,
Speaker 5: but as far as folding the pressure and stress. For
Speaker 5: some people, stress overwhelms them stressful situations. I'll tell my
Speaker 5: wife this. Since I was younger, even when I got
Speaker 5: into tussles and got in the fights with people, everything
Speaker 5: around me slowed down like it was in slow motion.
Speaker 5: I promise you. I could see things that were happening
Speaker 5: around me, and I wouldn't even understand how that happened.
Speaker 5: But it's just my body's response to stressful situations. The
Speaker 5: way I'm wired that's a gift.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's a gift.
Speaker 2: I guarantee, see you, I've been in just so many
Speaker 2: fist fights, if not more than you, And I promise
Speaker 2: you that's a gift because not a damn thing slowed
Speaker 2: down when I was in fist place.
Speaker 5: It was weird. It's weird to me, man. I don't
Speaker 5: know how it happens, but that's the way it's always been.
Speaker 5: Like I can remember everything that took place in that situation.
Speaker 5: Like so when things get crazy and people are out
Speaker 5: of control, I don't know if it's just something that
Speaker 5: kicks into where I can kind of see it and
Speaker 5: watch it for what it is or whatever's happening. But
Speaker 5: I hardly ever lose my composure. And I tell our
Speaker 5: kids that all the time. If you see me lose
Speaker 5: my composure, hit the panic. But they know me losing
Speaker 5: my composure is not me chewing you out of the numbers, right,
Speaker 5: because that's what I do. That's part of who I am.
Speaker 5: But if I'm freaking out, I don't know what we're
Speaker 5: gonna do. You'll never see that from me, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean.
Speaker 3: And that's why your kids respect you. That's why your
Speaker 3: football players respect you, and your other coaches respect you
Speaker 3: because you're consistent. It's so refreshing and Jake mentioned it earlier,
Speaker 3: but we do it. It's more often than not that
Speaker 3: we're talking to someone and we ask them who influenced
Speaker 3: you or who.
Speaker 4: Really played a part in that.
Speaker 3: Coaches, you see it as a privilege, but you also
Speaker 3: get the huge responsibility.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because.
Speaker 4: What did football unlock in you?
Speaker 5: A sense of responsibility and accountability. I'm accountable for more
Speaker 5: than just myself. It unlocked that before I had children,
Speaker 5: and then children really brought it full circle, as in
Speaker 5: this world is bigger than me, seriously and my desiring drive.
Speaker 5: I was always competitive, but I think it unlocked a
Speaker 5: different level of competitiveness for me because you know, I
Speaker 5: think everybody wants to be successful, but who wants to
Speaker 5: do the dirty work to be good at those things?
Speaker 5: That's where rubber Measter Road and the greater are separated
Speaker 5: from the average. When nobody's watching and nobody's they're pushing
Speaker 5: you in PROD and you to be better. Are you
Speaker 5: willing to show up and find a way to get better?
Speaker 5: What's your day look like if you're trying to win?
Speaker 5: Or are you trying to win in everything you do.
Speaker 5: Are you like, Okay, I'll win at this because I'm
Speaker 5: good at it. But this I'm not very good at it.
Speaker 5: So I'm just gonna not try not to do this
Speaker 5: as much. No, those great players find a way to
Speaker 5: find their weakness and push their weight through those things.
Speaker 5: You know, like ray Lewis is one of my favorite
Speaker 5: football players, and everybody asked me why I said this
Speaker 5: because of the way he played the game, his passion,
Speaker 5: his fire, and one of his biggest quotes was, you
Speaker 5: may be bigger than me, stronger than me, but you'll
Speaker 5: never outwork me for sixty minutes. So will you allow
Speaker 5: your opponents to outwork you? Will you allow when you
Speaker 5: settle in life? Let's talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 5: When you settle in life, I settle for being the
Speaker 5: second best on my team. That means it's time for
Speaker 5: me to quit doing that because now I don't have
Speaker 5: no job to be better than you. And I tell
Speaker 5: my backups every day, people who are not the starters,
Speaker 5: your job is to take his job every day every day.
Speaker 5: The starter's job is to try to keep that divide,
Speaker 5: to keep you as his backup every day. If your job.
Speaker 5: Ain't coming in here every day to try to take
Speaker 5: his job and make me tell you not this week.
Speaker 5: You almost had him, but not this week. And when
Speaker 5: I tell you that, that doesn't light another fire under
Speaker 5: you to be like, Okay, what do I gotta do
Speaker 5: to jump him next week. That's where great teams are created.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, most definitely, And that's what it's proof positive too,
Speaker 2: that you can have that inner competition, right, You're after
Speaker 2: the same goal when it's a championship, you after the
Speaker 2: freaking dub. But having that inner competition it makes you better.
Speaker 2: It's that iron Sharpen's iron saying you're only as strong
Speaker 2: as your weakest slink. Hey, I can relate to that
Speaker 2: from the days when I played and people I mean
Speaker 2: just challenging you and you knew who was there and
Speaker 2: who had it, and then you knew who was close
Speaker 2: and the coach is damn sure.
Speaker 5: And you know what you do as a coach. You
Speaker 5: put that guy in the feel More often you don't
Speaker 5: take the job, but you find ways to get him
Speaker 5: snaps at a different place where I got to get
Speaker 5: him on the field because I know what he brings
Speaker 5: to the party. You know, That's why I said, how
Speaker 5: about that settling for being second? I tell kids all
Speaker 5: the time, ever settle, because if you settle, you're settling
Speaker 5: for being second best in life. Once you settle once
Speaker 5: and you become a place where you're comfortable with settling,
Speaker 5: you're gonna settle for being second best at finding a wife.
Speaker 5: You're gonna see this girl over here, you think she's awesome,
Speaker 5: but you're gonna allow somebody else to walk in and
Speaker 5: talk to her before you do, because you settling. You're like, ah,
Speaker 5: she may be out of my league. You're gonna settle
Speaker 5: for being second and finding a job because he's a
Speaker 5: little smarter than me. I know, I might out working,
Speaker 5: but he's smarter and better than me, so I'll take
Speaker 5: his assistant job.
Speaker 1: You see.
Speaker 2: And that's what people need to understand, all right, Because
Speaker 2: I know that we talked about football a lot on
Speaker 2: the show, and here's why. Because you were molding the
Speaker 2: future leaders of this country, of possibly the world.
Speaker 1: We don't know, but you were making an impact.
Speaker 2: And you know because you were on the receiving end
Speaker 2: as a kid who had no idea what the hell
Speaker 2: you wanted to do or which way you were gonna go,
Speaker 2: and the coach helped you get there, somebody who was
Speaker 2: convicted and who they are and driven to give of
Speaker 2: themselves just like you do with these kids. The same
Speaker 2: reason they respect you, why you stand up and walk out.
Speaker 2: They know it's time to go, so.
Speaker 5: You know, and I I've had coaches tell me that before,
Speaker 5: like how you listen? How do you get them to
Speaker 5: do that? So it's the standard. There ain't no dropping
Speaker 5: the ball. It's a standard that we said and it's
Speaker 5: going to be done that way or you won't be
Speaker 5: on my team. That's the truth of it. And I'll
Speaker 5: tell you this, I'm blessed I have a staff full
Speaker 5: of coaches. You've always got this vision of what you
Speaker 5: want your program to look like, but I need those
Speaker 5: other fifteen men to pull that vision out. I'm telling
Speaker 5: them what I want. But they helped me bring it
Speaker 5: to fruition.
Speaker 2: And they would bleed for it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We got to Ashton, I got a spendi of time
Speaker 2: with all of them. I mean, they would absolutely bleed
Speaker 2: for you. You're you're a great people collector, and I
Speaker 2: think that attributes to your success on the gridiron. And
Speaker 2: I think that has everything to do with where you
Speaker 2: started and where you are now.
Speaker 5: I just believe in doing right by people. I tell
Speaker 5: guys all the time, I'll run through a wall for
Speaker 5: you as long as you're doing your job. But you
Speaker 5: better know if you ain't, I'm coming for you too. No,
Speaker 5: and our coach will tell you. They're like, hey, we
Speaker 5: love him, he's great to work for, but he's gonna
Speaker 5: get after you if it ain't right. Sometimes I'll get
Speaker 5: after a coach for a different response, because I don't
Speaker 5: always get after a coach to get after the coach
Speaker 5: that was indirectly at the kid. But I want to
Speaker 5: see how that young man handles that situation. If he
Speaker 5: goes down, sits on that bench, starts eating nice and
Speaker 5: not in drinking gatorade and not worried about what just happened.
Speaker 5: His coach got his butt shootout for him, that tells
Speaker 5: me things have happened. Wow, that coach has failed to
Speaker 5: create a create an environment where that kid loves his coach.
Speaker 5: He don't have a relationship with that kid, so that
Speaker 5: kid is not invested in him in the appropriate situation.
Speaker 5: When you get after a coach about a kid and
Speaker 5: that kid knows directly it was about his performance. He's
Speaker 5: gonna be sitting over there waiting for you to quit
Speaker 5: talking to that coach, And like, coach, that's.
Speaker 2: Ownership and account that's exactly.
Speaker 4: What do you do to relax and recharge.
Speaker 5: I'll go fishing. I like to go out and do
Speaker 5: some fishing, but I like to go catching a lot
Speaker 5: of a lot of draw fishing. But you know, I'm
Speaker 5: a big tinker, so I'll be out in the garage,
Speaker 5: like you go, look at my grans. Wife gets so
Speaker 5: upset with me because there's always stuff in there that
Speaker 5: she can't park in the garage. He gets all upset.
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm a guy that will I'll buy a
Speaker 5: little small engines and work on him and do that
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. Just something to keep myself busy, I
Speaker 5: promise you. I'm probably ADHD all that all wrapped up
Speaker 5: in the one, but I was never diagnosed, So it's
Speaker 5: just one of those deals where I found ways to
Speaker 5: cope with that extra energy without the medicaid and that
Speaker 5: kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I'd like to know one person or entity that had
Speaker 2: the biggest impact on you, Okay, So it's the one
Speaker 2: person that you can't go through a day living or
Speaker 2: not and it'll be like this rest of your life
Speaker 2: without thinking about that person.
Speaker 5: Probably my dad, no matter what, through all his faults,
Speaker 5: because he wasn't perfect, you know what I mean, mistakes,
Speaker 5: fought his own demons with prescription painkillers and all that
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. But through all that, he showed me
Speaker 5: how to be a man. He showed me how to
Speaker 5: put my family first. He showed me that it's okay
Speaker 5: to be selfless, you know, because I remember sometimes he
Speaker 5: would cook dinner for us when we had moo to
Speaker 5: Pleasant Grove and the paving company hadn't took off yet,
Speaker 5: and he would make sure I ate, my mom ate,
Speaker 5: my brothers ate, and it would be not as much left.
Speaker 5: But he made sure his kids ate, and his wife ate.
Speaker 5: So I think he's this. If I had to say
Speaker 5: one person or one entity, it's him, because no matter
Speaker 5: through all his faults, he showed me how to take
Speaker 5: care of my family and be a man and treat
Speaker 5: people right.
Speaker 4: I get emotional at least one episode.
Speaker 3: That's just that's beautiful, like truly a parental sacrifice. I
Speaker 3: want to know, what would you say to a young
Speaker 3: man sitting in East Dallas.
Speaker 5: Oh man, I tell him the world is bigger than
Speaker 5: East Dallas. Just give yourself a chance to get out.
Speaker 5: I saying you don't. You can't go back. I go back. Still.
Speaker 5: My grandma still lives there, not as often as I
Speaker 5: would like to. My Grandma's ninety three and she still
Speaker 5: gets around and she does great. One matriarch of our
Speaker 5: family does. But I'll tell you this, I tell him,
Speaker 5: don't be afraid to embrace new challenges. The world is
Speaker 5: a lot bigger than that small area that you're in.
Speaker 5: Go out, enjoy life. Spend time learning about other cultures
Speaker 5: and finer things in life, and not saying it's got
Speaker 5: to all be about money and finances. Just find a
Speaker 5: way to invest in other people. Learn about people, watch
Speaker 5: people a lot earlier in life.
Speaker 4: Great advice.
Speaker 3: Coach antonio' Wiley not only the head football coach at Coppel.
Speaker 4: High School, the Coppo High School in Coppel.
Speaker 3: Texas, where football is king, but also a great father,
Speaker 3: a great leader, and a great friend.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for being here with us on
Speaker 4: the good stuff.
Speaker 5: Thank you guys for having me. It's been amazing.
Speaker 2: You're a blessing for us to be able to call
Speaker 2: family and brother bro and we appreciate you.
Speaker 5: Well appreciate you guys. I think it's amazing what you
Speaker 5: guys are doing. Like I said, we love to jump
Speaker 5: in and join in on some other stuff that you
Speaker 5: guys got going. So just know that we're a phone
Speaker 5: call away and Copeil Football still loves you and we
Speaker 5: want you around.
Speaker 4: How pumped up are you right now?
Speaker 1: There's not a wall I couldn't run through.
Speaker 3: You were so ready to go put on that uniform again.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's in our wall in a shadow box.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a drag that, like, I can't leave
Speaker 2: here and go put this energy into something.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, just gotta go to dinner and do
Speaker 1: normal life stuff.
Speaker 5: It's not it sucks.
Speaker 2: It's because we need this stuff, man, and we gotta.
Speaker 1: But that's on me.
Speaker 2: We got to figure out how to channel it and
Speaker 2: use it for the greater good. But I mean, that's
Speaker 2: why I could do this every day. I just need
Speaker 2: this once a month, yeah, just once a month, just
Speaker 2: one quick energy recharger, Like just open your mouth and
Speaker 2: let the words flow feed my soul.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's such a great leader of young men. He
Speaker 3: is such a great husband and father, and clearly that
Speaker 3: comes from his own upbringing and just that love of football,
Speaker 3: which obviously you.
Speaker 4: And I share and have since day one. It's contagious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's turned his passion into a paycheck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he turned that program around the year before
Speaker 3: he came to Coppel, they were four and six, nine
Speaker 3: and two his first season, nine and two.
Speaker 2: Like you said, he wants to win. He has no
Speaker 2: interest in second place, and that's why he demands the
Speaker 2: most of his people. That's not only his kids on
Speaker 2: the team, but his assistant coaches. I mean, he's the
Speaker 2: leader all the way around because he lives the example.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Coach Antonio Wiley such energy, It just it feels so
Speaker 3: good to have these conversations. We hope that you were
Speaker 3: inspired as well, and thank you so much for listening today.
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