WEBVTT - Deep Water with Coach Antonio Wiley 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:16.840 Welcome to the Good Stuff. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.360 I'm Jacob Schick and I'm joined by my co host 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:20.160 and wife. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:20.600 Ashley Shick. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.520 Jake is a third generation combat Marine and I'm a 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:27.480 gold Star granddaughter. And we work together to serve military veterans, 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.320 first responders, frontline healthcare workers, and their families with mental 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.760 and emotional wellness through traditional and non traditional therapy. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.320 At One Tribe Foundation, we. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.040 Believe everyone has a story to tell, not only about 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:41.960 the peaks, but also the valleys they've. 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:43.479 Been through to get them where they are today. 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.400 Each week, we invite a guests to tell us their story, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:48.960 to share with us the lessons they've learned that shape 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.000 who they are and what they're doing to pay it 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:52.320 forward and give back. 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:54.920 Our mission with this show is to dig deep in 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.800 our guest's journey so that we can celebrate the hope 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.680 and inspiration their story has to offer. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:01.920 We're thrilled you're joining us again. 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:03.920 Welcome to the Good Stuff. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.280 Our guest today is a great man. We met at 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.679 Jake's alma mater and where he played football, Koppel High 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:11.920 School in North Texas. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:12.800 Go Cowboys. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.640 Regardless of where you are in the world, football is religion. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.080 Here in Texas and Texas high school football head coaches 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:21.200 are highly regarded. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.520 High school football brings communities together, and the coaches are 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.440 the ones who help shape these young athletes and leaders 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:28.399 in their communities. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.760 We are so stoked to have head football coach at 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.679 Coppel High School, Coach Antonio Wiley here on the Good Stuff. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.119 He's here to share his journey with us of growing 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.360 up in East Dallas in the path. 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.440 That led him to where he is today. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.960 Antonio Wiley, thank you so much for joining us and 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:51.320 welcome to the Good Stuff. 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:52.680 Thank you guys for having me. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.040 We're thrilled you're here. We talk about football a lot 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:56.880 on this podcast. 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:57.440 We just do. 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:59.840 We're in Texas, Jake and I both grew up in it, 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.720 and from the moment we met you, we were. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.720 Like, we've got to have Antonio on the podcast. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:06.040 Coach Antonio. 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.800 Coach Antonio just called me coach Antonio. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:10.680 Why they don't do that? 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.160 Not your full name? Coach Antonio? 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.119 Cool the way, Yeah, but that's like asking me when 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:17.880 a four star general walks up to me, he's like 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.200 just call me Tom. I'm like, that's not gonna happen. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:26.400 Like No, It's like I think it's a trap. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.640 But not only are you a head football coach in Texas, 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.960 you're the head football coach at Coppel High School, which 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.440 is drum roll please, Jake's alma mater. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:36.680 Damn right, it is. 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.600 That's what I'm talking about, telling me, go cowboy ouh, 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:39.200 let's get it. 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.520 Donet's cowboy all the way all day. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.680 Y'all could sit here and do this for like the 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.320 whole the l the podcast. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:48.600 Some people get it and some don't. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.000 You guys are just so energetic, and it's like, yeah, 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.880 there's a reason that we don't suck that much, no doubt, 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:59.840 because everything's with purpose, speed, intensity. I don't get out 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:01.520 of bed and put my leg on before I go 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:03.840 to the bathroom and go I'm going to go completely 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.720 out of my way to be completely average today. 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.880 In mys there's no place for average. If you're accept 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.600 being average, you need to go find something else to 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.480 do other than live because average ain't a place where 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.680 I can ever survive. Being a competitor and being an 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.000 athletics your whole life and growing up a certain way, 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.359 it breeds for competition, and if you accept being average, 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.840 you need to go play with the average. Kids don't 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:25.880 come in my world. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.520 And that's one of the main reasons we wanted to 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.680 have you here on the good stuff, because that is 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.040 what it's all about, right, that mindset, that good energy 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.600 that you just again have exuded from the moment that 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.839 Jake and I met you. We've been blessed to work 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.720 with not only your athletes, but a lot of the 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.920 athletes at cop LISD on some of our service projects 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.600 that we have. We love getting the kids involved, to 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.960 include our own. But I mean, you've got a fascinating story. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:50.880 Take us back to the beginning. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.360 Grew up Inner City Dallas. You know, a few blocks 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.119 from the State Fair, a neighborhood that was really high 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.520 crime rates, a lot of drugs, a lot of things 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.120 like that going on in the neighborhood. Crimes are normal there. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.400 Gunshots are normal in that neighborhood. There's no such thing as, oh, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.880 I live in a safe place. It was safe because 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.320 we made it safe because we took care of each other. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.640 But outside people coming in and that kind of stuff, 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.760 or you had conflict with somebody from four blocks over. 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.280 You know, that's the thing about that neighborhood. We call 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.680 it East Dallas. But some people if you drove to 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.360 it like this is South Dallas. But you better not 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.040 tell us guys who were from East Dallas that to 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.760 South Dallas because we would have a problem with that, 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.920 you know what I mean. So it was a tough neighborhood. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.120 I wouldn't change anything about that because it molded me 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.440 into the man I am today. I never walk out 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.680 worried about what's gonna happen. I just go in and 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.360 I say, whatever takes place, we're gonna jump in with 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.120 both feet and find a way to handle it. You know, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:41.880 when we were coming up, games were a big deal. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.839 During that time, we didn't have a lot, and I 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.479 didn't know it because we had I had a big 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.400 family growing up there. You know, we went through times 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:50.480 with not having a lot. Then my dad started a 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.240 playing company and that changed and things we had a lot, 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:54.640 and then we went back and forth. You know, you 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.839 go to times where lights might be off and then 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.560 in other times you've got you know, brand new cars 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.479 and other thing going your way. But I think growing 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:03.800 up in the neighborhood I grew up in, you see 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.480 a lot of things, you know. You see a lot 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.240 of a single parent homes, You see a lot of 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.000 young men get lost into the system. And I was 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:11.720 blessed because you know, I was that young man who 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:13.320 would toe that line. But I knew my dad would 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.960 kill me if I went too far, you know, But 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.280 also not saying I didn't go too far. Sometimes I 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.680 was just blessed God saw fit to let you walk 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.320 away from that situation, as opposed to where two days 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.640 later one of your friends didn't walk away from a situation, 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.839 or they got caught into something that would have normally 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.640 been a routine. You did something and you thought, all 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:32.240 it's easy, and all of a sudden it turns out 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.480 bad for him. And when I turned thirteen, I remember 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.039 twelve thirteen, we bought a house. We moved a pleasant grove. 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:38.760 You know. I was from eat Dallas right there, and 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.039 so I'm thinking, hey, we're moving up. Don't know, not 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.000 much difference in the neighborhood. Just you got a brick 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.080 house now instead of up here in Beam. That was 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.280 the one thing I went to Samuel, But games were 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.720 still relevant. I grew up in a place where right 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.640 there in these Dallas, where everybody were bloods, and it 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.040 was you're not in a gang, but everybody around you 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.839 is somewhat affiliated and that kind of stuff. So it's 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.760 one of those deals where when I went to Pleasant 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.880 grow I didn't understand it. That was unc territory when 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.000 I was in school, and they were all crips. So 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.240 I'm walking down the street with red jerseys and red 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.440 laces own and thinking everything's okay. Well I learned pretty quick. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.000 I got jumped a couple of times time. But you 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.280 know what, life gave me opportunities that I would never 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.200 change anything about my life. My dad was a great 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:19.719 man in the short time that he was here on 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.680 her with us, great man. He taught me how to 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.000 take care of my family. He taught me the value 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.279 of just doing things the right way. I think that 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.960 all came from my grandpa, who was also a great man, 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.080 who would just give you the shirt off his back 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.680 and do anything for a person. He's one of the 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.360 best souls you ever gonna meet. I remember one time vividly. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.839 My mom tells this story. If you listen to her talk, 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.440 she'll say, my grandpa just got a new car and 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.720 she's out. He let her drive it and she wrecks it, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.240 so she's freaking out. She don't know what to do. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.200 She gets him on the phone. That was back before 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.040 cell phones were real heavy. So you call him out 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.560 the landline and she goes, mister Clarence, I'm so sorry 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.480 that I wrecked your car. And he goes, baby, are 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.160 you all right? And she goes, yeah, he said, forget 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.599 that car, we'll get another one at something. You know, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.080 that's just kind of the person he was. He was 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:03.560 all about and he would tell his sons when they 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.960 were wrong about their daughter in laws. They were all 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.960 crazy about him, you know, because like he got with 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:10.880 great credit and that kind of stuff. So when when 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.840 my dad got older he started having business and stuff 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.320 and he was doing well, my mom wanted a car 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.480 well my dad and didn't have to established credit that 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.440 my grandpa had, so he goes in. He was that guy. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.960 Though once he said no about something, he meant it. 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.320 So when he went to when he went to him, 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.280 my mom go to car lots, and he'd ask my 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.160 mom before they walked in there, how much can you 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.600 afford to pay for this car? What's the monthly payment? 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.760 And she'd go this and he go okay. So when 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.320 they walk in there, you know, salesman always comes in 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.560 with these sales pictures and that kind of stuff. And 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.120 they come in and it could be ten cents over 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.600 what she said, and he goes, Nope, ain't doing it. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.960 And if they can't budget, he's not budgeting. He'll tell her, 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:51.640 let's get in the car. She'd be like, I can 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.320 do that. Nope, you said this, and that's what we're doing. 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.000 You know, I'll tell you this is my life. My 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.520 life's been great. I had a great family. We were 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.560 poor and didn't even know it sometimes, you know what, 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.320 I just had three but I had a big family, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:05.720 and so we talk about this. Let's talk about it. 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:10.040 My grandma had seven children, one girl. My family is 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.160 full of boys, I mean like from the top, so 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.560 that when people got in their scuffles with us, they 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:19.280 just like, oh crap, there's a try full of boys. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:24.400 Because it's like within my grandma's children, there's only my 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.800 cousin Debora and my cousin Niecy are the two girls 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.920 in the immediate family right there. The rest of all 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.720 of her boys had boys too. And so you go 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.199 back to because I don't have any sisters, I got 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.000 two younger brothers. So it's just like we've got a 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.040 family full of boys. You know what. I mean yes, 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.000 and they were all a little rough cut, so when 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:45.640 it came time to get their hands dirty and mix 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.240 it up, we were Definitely. It was one of those 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.400 deals where if you come home and you've been in 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.360 a tussle with somebody and they didn't feel like you 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.040 wanted choose from to go back over and we're gonna 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.080 do it again, you know what I mean, So you 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.040 better get it done right the first time, you know. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.960 So we talk about this a lot trauma, right, But 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.079 in your case, it sounds like you had some very 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.680 strong men that, regardless of your environment, you had these 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.920 strong examples your grandfather and your father to live by 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.360 that they actually passed on that generational goodness of this 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:16.400 is how to be a man. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.760 Yep, they did. They did a great job. The men 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.240 in my life were great, But we had some strong 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.920 women in our families too, my mom, my aunts. They 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.280 all just kind of locked on and held us down. Now, 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.920 I don't get me wrong. Did we get in trouble. Absolutely, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.560 did we go out and find ways to do things 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.040 that we knew were possibly going to be suspect from 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:38.000 time to time. Absolutely, we also figured out that there 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.280 ain't no way to avoid it. Some people want to 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.280 avoid conflict so much in their life that they never 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.520 deal with those tough situations. Me and I think it's 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.599 been one of the biggest blessings of my life is 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.560 the fact that I learned how to take on conflict 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.120 head on and not dodge it and not avoid it 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.480 and have tough conversations, and when it had to get physical, 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.680 we took care of it and we moved on. Nowadays, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.240 I think there's a weird dynamic going on because you 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:03.800 got people who want to be tough in front of 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.080 a camera on social media, but they also don't want 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.240 to actually do it when the rubber meets the road. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.560 Keyboard Warriors, oh I keyboard warriors. 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.400 No, That right there drives me crazy. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.440 We live in a very passive society. People go out 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.560 of their way to avoid conflict or discomfort. Nobody wants 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.720 to be uncomfortable, and it's like that's the only place 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.679 you coul grow, you know, and you've got to meet 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.040 it head on. You have to step up and book 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.280 and right things, just like we tell the boys all 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.800 the time. Well you heard me tell your boys, Hit Coppell, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.040 right things, right reasons, arrest, take care of yourself, no 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.600 matter what, if you fail, it better beat one hundred percent. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.360 Don't be a fright to fail. That's the fear of 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.400 failure drives me every day. I tell people this all 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.480 the time. I say, because if I fail, I have 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:53.000 fifteen assistant coaches. I have a wife and kids at home. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.360 They have wives and children at home. So if I 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.840 fail as a head coach, I don't only fail myself, 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.200 I failed them, so my job. What did I say? 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.120 They said, The fear of failure forces me to prepare. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.520 And if you're not preparing, you're preparing to fail. 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:07.680 That's what I always. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.439 I said it yesterday morning, I said it this afternoon. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.760 I said all the time, the fear of failure dictates 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.120 your greatness. 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.640 What do you do with that failure? Are you afraid 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.880 to take a shot because you might fail? 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:21.680 You know? 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:23.680 I tell our kids all the time. I say, if 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.400 I put a mirror in front of you. I talk 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.360 to my football team. If I put a mirror in 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.520 front of you and it said, this is what you 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.280 have to go through to have a chance to play 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.880 sixteen games, to have a chance to play for a 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.719 state championship, are you willing to go through it? Even 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.520 though you might go zer and ten. That doesn't mean 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.480 you're not gonna fail. This is what you have to 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.240 go to to have a chance. How many of you 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:45.920 guys are gonna say, Coach, I'm in the boat still, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:46.720 let's do it. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:53.920 Yeah, you had these life lessons that a lot of kids, 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.720 like our kids do not have. Don't have a clue 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.520 what that's like, don't have an idea like, oh, it 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.320 depends on what color shoelaces I wear when I walk 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.640 like I might have to, I might have to throw down. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:08.800 That is not a thing where they are. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:09.160 No. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.520 I love this episode because you're proof positive. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.560 That you channel it for good. You use it for good. 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.120 And not only have you used it for good, you 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:23.560 practice gratitude daily because of it. And that is a mindset. 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.040 That's a decision you make and you use it to 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.440 your advantage. I just think it's an awesome thing that 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:33.319 is also unfortunately a dying thing in this country. 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:34.760 And that's the thing I tell you a lot of time, 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.680 some of the best leaders are in rough neighborhoods. What 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.480 did I lead kids to do? What did I lead 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.880 their community in? That's the difference. Like some of the 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.679 worst criminals are the best leaders. People believe in them. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.920 You go back through generation some of the biggest gangsters 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:47.520 and all that stuff. What did they do. They got 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.679 people to believe in them and by their message. It's 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.280 the same thing. So you can generate that power one 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.320 way or the other. You can decide to take people 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.560 down this path, lead them to a place of destruction, 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.920 or you can decide to take down the path of 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.040 greatness and say, hey, we're gonna find a way to 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.520 do right by people, do right by society. But it's 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.520 funny how you brought that up about our kids. Don't 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.400 understand that, because that was one of my biggest concerns 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.240 when I walked into Coppell as the head football coach, 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.000 because I was at which toftose Hershey, which has a 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.520 different socio economic status. I mean, it's different population, and 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.480 those kids needed me on a different scale. And in 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.280 a way that kind of fed my soul a little 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:26.880 bit as a human being because you get to go 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.760 out and every day you having a major impact on 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.480 youth lives. So the way I looked at it was 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:33.760 when I went to Copel and then I had to 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.680 kind of readjust because you get from the outside looking 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.640 in you think everything's always great because there's a little 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.000 bit of a bubble there, but it's not always what 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.079 people expected to be. And those kids needed me too, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.240 just on a different level. Sometimes they need reality because 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.960 they don't get it anywhere else. Fact, and we have 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.360 great kids, great parents, great community, all that put together. 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.559 But one thing I get to do in the football 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.480 world is I get to give you reality all the time. 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.680 There's a reality check when you come to me every day. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.760 There is no well I felt like I deserve now 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.760 you don't deserve anything. The only thing in life is 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.599 guaranteed to you. And football is a hard time. So 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:08.440 let's figure it out. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.679 So how did your path lead you to football when 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.880 you were a young kid there in eats Dallas, oh Man. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.800 We moved to Pleasant Grove, like I said, right there, 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.439 and I started. I didn't play high school football to 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.000 my sophomore year, and so I was a pretty athletic kid. 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.360 Could run, could jump, and do all that well. Going 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.000 through my sophomore year, I felt like I should be 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.160 a varsity player, but you know I was wasn't all 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.360 the way accountable. I was just kind of flirting with 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.080 the line. They didn't want to buy in one hundred percent. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.320 So going into my junior year, my high school coach 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.200 Steve Pearce, who's still the head coach at Dallas Samuel Right. 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.640 Really yeah, still drive that same little white Toyota probably too. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.720 He calls me into his office and he goes Antonio. 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:46.800 He said, there ain't no more straddling the fence for you. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:49.600 He said, you either all the way in or all 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.160 the way out. I was that kid that was gonna 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.720 run around, possibly get in trouble, but nothing too major, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.320 that kind of stuff. But I wasn't committed to the 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.520 task at hand. I wouldn't committed to the team goal 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.800 way that I needed to be. And so he told me, 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:03.080 he said you all the way in, all the way out. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.920 He said, to tell you something, if you hangle crap, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.680 you're gonna smell like crap. And that was his exact 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.880 message to me. And you know, I decided that at 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:11.320 that point I wanted to lock in and be a 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.720 high school football player and do that. Things went well. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:15.360 I ended up getting a scholarship to go play at 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.840 Eastern New Mexico University and for the next four or 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.880 five years. That was great. I played straight through four 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.400 straight years It's weird though, because as you played through 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.200 those times in college, you have this structure, Boom, we're 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.440 gonna we're gonna work out at six am. We got 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:31.800 to be in class by eight, so you have to 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.960 eat breakfast between workouts and class. From eighth to noon, 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.680 you always had class and then you'd have two o'clock 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.120 position meetings and then so you'd have that little time 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:42.920 at two hours span or to eat lunch and get 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.080 ready for meetings. You go do that. So this is 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.560 an everyday reoccurrence. So two o'clock position meetings, you on 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.880 to feel at three thirty, off the field at five 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.800 forty five or something like that, head to the cafeteria, 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.640 go eat, go back, go to meetings, come back, do homework, 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.640 and do it all again. It's just a repetitive miss. 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:04.359 And then all of a sudden they snatched that structure 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.440 from around you. When you're done playing football and you 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.040 walk around lost. For I was lost. I mean for 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.640 three semesters. My GPA went from like a three seven 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.160 to a one nine because I didn't I did absolutely nothing. 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.800 I wasn't going to class half the time, wasn't doing anything. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.640 Lost that purpose, yes, because that was my day. That 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.960 was what drove me, you know what I mean every day. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.120 I knew it wasn't even a question in it. So 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.160 my coach called me in, another coach that was big 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.840 in my life, Eric Bowl, and he goes, you know 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.560 cause my parents like a lie to them. In college, 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.600 you say, oh yeah, my grades are grazy great. Ain't 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:38.360 nobody checking them up? 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.120 I'm going to class, I'm doing Ain't nothing going on. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.160 You're good, ain't Ain't no teacher call and said, hey, Antonio, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.160 ain't been turning there nothing that don't work that way. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.360 He said, you're grown in now. So coach Boll called 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.080 me because he knew he should have saved. He said, hey, tone, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.160 he called me tone. So I go in as obvious, 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:52.800 say where you being? 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:52.960 Man? 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:54.480 I go, coach, I ain't even gonna lie to you. 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:56.600 I ain't been doing nothing. I ain't even going to class, 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.240