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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jacob Schick and I'm joined by my co host

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Speaker 2: and wife.

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Speaker 1: Ashley Shick.

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Speaker 3: Jake is a third generation combat Marine and I'm a

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Speaker 3: gold Star granddaughter. And we work together to serve military veterans,

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Speaker 3: first responders, frontline healthcare workers, and their families with mental

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Speaker 3: and emotional wellness through traditional and non traditional therapy.

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Speaker 4: At One Tribe Foundation, we.

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Speaker 2: Believe everyone has a story to tell, not only about

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Speaker 2: the peaks, but also the valleys they've.

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Speaker 1: Been through to get them where they are today.

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Speaker 3: Each week, we invite a guests to tell us their story,

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Speaker 3: to share with us the lessons they've learned that shape

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Speaker 3: who they are and what they're doing to pay it

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Speaker 3: forward and give back.

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Speaker 2: Our mission with this show is to dig deep in

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Speaker 2: our guest's journey so that we can celebrate the hope

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Speaker 2: and inspiration their story has to offer.

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Speaker 4: We're thrilled you're joining us again.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff.

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Speaker 3: Our guest today is a great man. We met at

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Speaker 3: Jake's alma mater and where he played football, Koppel High

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Speaker 3: School in North Texas.

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Speaker 1: Go Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Regardless of where you are in the world, football is religion.

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Speaker 2: Here in Texas and Texas high school football head coaches

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Speaker 2: are highly regarded.

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Speaker 4: High school football brings communities together, and the coaches are

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Speaker 4: the ones who help shape these young athletes and leaders

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Speaker 4: in their communities.

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Speaker 2: We are so stoked to have head football coach at

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Speaker 2: Coppel High School, Coach Antonio Wiley here on the Good Stuff.

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Speaker 3: He's here to share his journey with us of growing

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Speaker 3: up in East Dallas in the path.

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Speaker 4: That led him to where he is today.

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Speaker 3: Antonio Wiley, thank you so much for joining us and

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Speaker 3: welcome to the Good Stuff.

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Speaker 5: Thank you guys for having me.

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Speaker 3: We're thrilled you're here. We talk about football a lot

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Speaker 3: on this podcast.

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Speaker 4: We just do.

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Speaker 3: We're in Texas, Jake and I both grew up in it,

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Speaker 3: and from the moment we met you, we were.

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Speaker 4: Like, we've got to have Antonio on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Coach Antonio.

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Speaker 4: Coach Antonio just called me coach Antonio.

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Speaker 5: Why they don't do that?

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Speaker 4: Not your full name? Coach Antonio?

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Speaker 2: Cool the way, Yeah, but that's like asking me when

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Speaker 2: a four star general walks up to me, he's like

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Speaker 2: just call me Tom. I'm like, that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Like No, It's like I think it's a trap.

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Speaker 3: But not only are you a head football coach in Texas,

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Speaker 3: you're the head football coach at Coppel High School, which

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Speaker 3: is drum roll please, Jake's alma mater.

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Speaker 1: Damn right, it is.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking about, telling me, go cowboy ouh,

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Speaker 5: let's get it.

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Speaker 1: Donet's cowboy all the way all day.

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Speaker 4: Y'all could sit here and do this for like the

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Speaker 4: whole the l the podcast.

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Speaker 5: Some people get it and some don't.

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Speaker 2: You guys are just so energetic, and it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's a reason that we don't suck that much, no doubt,

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Speaker 2: because everything's with purpose, speed, intensity. I don't get out

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Speaker 2: out of my way to be completely average today.

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Speaker 5: In mys there's no place for average. If you're accept

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Speaker 5: do other than live because average ain't a place where

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Speaker 5: I can ever survive. Being a competitor and being an

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Speaker 5: athletics your whole life and growing up a certain way,

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Speaker 5: it breeds for competition, and if you accept being average,

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Speaker 5: you need to go play with the average. Kids don't

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Speaker 3: And that's one of the main reasons we wanted to

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Speaker 3: have you here on the good stuff, because that is

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Speaker 3: what it's all about, right, that mindset, that good energy

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Speaker 3: that you just again have exuded from the moment that

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Speaker 3: Jake and I met you. We've been blessed to work

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Speaker 3: that we have. We love getting the kids involved, to

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Speaker 3: Take us back to the beginning.

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Speaker 5: Grew up Inner City Dallas. You know, a few blocks

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Speaker 5: I live in a safe place. It was safe because

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't change anything about that because it molded me

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Speaker 5: I say, whatever takes place, we're gonna jump in with

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Speaker 5: You know, I'll tell you this is my life. My

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Speaker 5: My grandma had seven children, one girl. My family is

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Speaker 5: No, That right there drives me crazy.

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Speaker 2: We live in a very passive society. People go out

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Speaker 5: Don't be a fright to fail. That's the fear of

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Speaker 5: They said, The fear of failure forces me to prepare.

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Speaker 2: I said it yesterday morning, I said it this afternoon.

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Speaker 5: What do you do with that failure? Are you afraid

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Speaker 5: I tell our kids all the time. I say, if

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Speaker 5: go to to have a chance. How many of you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had these life lessons that a lot of kids,

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Speaker 2: I love this episode because you're proof positive.

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Speaker 1: That you channel it for good. You use it for good.

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Speaker 2: And not only have you used it for good, you

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Speaker 2: That's a decision you make and you use it to

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing I tell you a lot of time,

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Speaker 5: understand that, because that was one of my biggest concerns

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Speaker 5: But one thing I get to do in the football

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Speaker 5: There's a reality check when you come to me every day.

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Speaker 5: There is no well I felt like I deserve now

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Speaker 3: So how did your path lead you to football when

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Speaker 5: We moved to Pleasant Grove, like I said, right there,

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Speaker 5: So going into my junior year, my high school coach

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Speaker 5: Steve Pearce, who's still the head coach at Dallas Samuel Right.

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Speaker 5: Really yeah, still drive that same little white Toyota probably too.

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Speaker 5: He calls me into his office and he goes Antonio.

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Speaker 5: He said, there ain't no more straddling the fence for you.

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Speaker 5: You're good, ain't Ain't no teacher call and said, hey, Antonio,

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Speaker 5: He said, you're grown in now. So coach Boll called

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Speaker 5: I go, coach, I ain't even gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 5: I ain't been doing nothing. I ain't even going to class,

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Speaker 5: you ever thought about coaching? I go, no, not really.

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Speaker 5: gotta go to so I gotta go to the dean's office,

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00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,480
Speaker 5: and they got they gotta approve it. And I did it,

436
00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,960
Speaker 5: and I feed it out and I finished it. I

437
00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,159
Speaker 5: look back on those key moments, and a couple of them.

438
00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,560
Speaker 5: Outside of my dad and my family and my mom,

439
00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,159
Speaker 5: coaches had a major impact on where I landed.

440
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,760
Speaker 3: So going back to when that high school coach sat

441
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,840
Speaker 3: you down, what was it like when you stopped straddling

442
00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,800
Speaker 3: the fence and you fully committed to football.

443
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,320
Speaker 5: You lose some friends along the way that normally not

444
00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,359
Speaker 5: so much as you lose them, but y'all grow apart.

445
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,000
Speaker 5: You don't become enemies or anything, just grow apart because

446
00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,080
Speaker 5: y'all's interest levels changed. You're growing into the next phase

447
00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,640
Speaker 5: of your life as a person, and they're going down

448
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,280
Speaker 5: whatever path they chose. And if those two paths on

449
00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,360
Speaker 5: the line, it naturally creates separation. You still love them.

450
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 5: You know, you'll still say what's up, You're still hang

451
00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,119
Speaker 5: out with each other, but you know that day to

452
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,560
Speaker 5: day interaction with y'all is going to be lessened because

453
00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,000
Speaker 5: y'all don't have the same goal right now, right.

454
00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,160
Speaker 2: And that takes a lot of conviction and discipline too.

455
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,679
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that being clean and sober, you know,

456
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of my great friends were no

457
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,440
Speaker 2: longer my great friends when I decided to get clean

458
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,879
Speaker 2: and sober. And it's the same type of thing. It's like, Okay,

459
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 2: well I want to be down this path. You're gonna

460
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 2: say on that path, that's fine, but I'm not coming

461
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,119
Speaker 2: over there.

462
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,199
Speaker 5: I've been there, don't ask me to, right. And the

463
00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,119
Speaker 5: good friends, the true friends, the one that actually care

464
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 5: about you, they won't try to drag you down there.

465
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 5: They'll let you take your own path and they'll still

466
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 5: say what's up. But the dealer, they just know y'all

467
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 5: have grown apart.

468
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 4: What was it about football?

469
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:41,159
Speaker 5: Oh?

470
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:41,440
Speaker 2: Man?

471
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 5: Is not about football, I say, it's a lot, man,

472
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 5: But it's the brotherhood part of it. The part of it.

473
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 5: You got a group of guys that when y'all walk

474
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 5: in there and y'all are playing this game together. This

475
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 5: game is all focused on all of us doing our

476
00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 5: individual job to finish one goal. And when that unit

477
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 5: works as a whole and things go the way they should,

478
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 5: it's a beautiful thing. It's like any other thing in life.

479
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 5: You watch a car come down to the assembling line,

480
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 5: one of those machines work wrong, it's shut the whole

481
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 5: assembly line down. Watch a good football team work as

482
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 5: a unit. Watch a good offensive line work as a unit.

483
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 5: Offensive line and the other unsung heroes of a football game,

484
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 5: because everybody can tell when the old lineman is doing

485
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 5: it wrong, and they get no credit when they're doing

486
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 5: it right. For nobody but the o line parents. And

487
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 5: one thing they gotta tell running back to my quarterbacks,

488
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 5: you can celebrate with the rest of those skinny dudes anytime.

489
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 5: Go celebrate with your with your old line. Go tell

490
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 5: them thank you because he kept your quarterback clean. He

491
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 5: may created that gap for you to run the ball.

492
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 5: But watch a good old line, watch a good line

493
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 5: of work in unison. They take the first step running

494
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 5: outside zone or running zone, the zone comes up. Whatever,

495
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 5: it's a beautiful thing when you watch it happen.

496
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 4: Giant ballas there's nothing in the world like it. There's

497
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 4: nothing in the world.

498
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 2: Like one of the one of the coaches we know,

499
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 2: we're having dinner with his wife and it was like, god,

500
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 2: I mean, these guys are just getting bigger, stronger, faster.

501
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: And he was coaching another line and he said, you know, Jake,

502
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: really what it is is they're just giant ballerinas.

503
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 5: I think they're a lot tougher.

504
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I but it was like, you watch how

505
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: fast their feet are, how light they are on their feet,

506
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: and they're these massive human beings. And it's like we

507
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: tell the boys all the time, you got quick feet,

508
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: you can play in the sports.

509
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: Gotta have quick feet.

510
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 5: I went out and watched a Cowboys practice last fall

511
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 5: one day and Tyron Smith walks up and he is

512
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 5: a massive human being. I mean you walk up on

513
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 5: him and you know, you think, oh, lineman, you think

514
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 5: out of shape kind of good. You know, No, these

515
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 5: dudes are six seven machines that got six packs. And

516
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 5: I mean, you're like, somebody, somebody bring my gun. If

517
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 5: I get into it him, it's gonna be something with

518
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 5: you know, you don't want like that guy. If he

519
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 5: hits on your wife. You're like, hey, really that's fine.

520
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 5: Just you hey, ba, we're good. He didn't say anything,

521
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 5: let's go. Let's go because I don't. I'm not gonna

522
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 5: back down. But I know this could get ugly real fast.

523
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 5: You know what.

524
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. It's crazy. It's crazy.

525
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: I mean just watching the combine and watching it's like

526
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: one of these giants, I think it was three.

527
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: Hundred and what was he?

528
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: I think he was like three seventy or something like that,

529
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: and you ran, I think it was a sub four seven.

530
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 5: That's like a Volkswagon running down, you know, like a

531
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 5: little v W. Yeah, to be in front of that,

532
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 5: So you know, that's that's I mean. But that's what

533
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 5: we're getting now. I'm getting to that generation where I'm

534
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 5: not the old coach, but I'm getting to where I've

535
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 5: been in it for a while. So I get these

536
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 5: young coaches that are twenty five, twenty six years old,

537
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 5: and they come in, you know, the age old question

538
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 5: about who's the greatest of all time basketball? All that

539
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 5: I don't even get me and my Corners coach started

540
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 5: because he he will like the day that Lebron James

541
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 5: broke the all time scoring record, he shows up the

542
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 5: next day with the lebron James Jersey, and so I

543
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,479
Speaker 5: gave him the business. I tell him, I said, win

544
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 5: is win man, I said, And I'm gonna tell you

545
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 5: I never seen him Jay not win it, you know,

546
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 5: and he gets so welled up. So but you know,

547
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 5: that's the thing these kids are. They are bigger, faster,

548
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 5: more physical. That's why there are more serious injuries that

549
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 5: take place because these are violent collisions that are taking

550
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 5: place every play.

551
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 3: Talk about the heighs and lows of a football game,

552
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 3: how can you apply that to your life.

553
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 5: I think that's why coaches coach football, because there's only

554
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 5: a few things in life that's going to give you

555
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 5: that same roller coaster of emotion that you go through

556
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 5: on a football field, and the roller coaster of emotion

557
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 5: you have to watch kids go through. You watch kids

558
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 5: completely tank and they're in a bad place and you

559
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 5: have to go pick them up, and you watch them

560
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 5: at the height that one moment where they look up,

561
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 5: their eyes are lit up and things are just right

562
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 5: and it's like everything in the universe just came together

563
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 5: for them right there in that moment. And in life,

564
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 5: there's only a few moments outside of you know, if

565
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 5: you're in the military, or you're a coach, or you're

566
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 5: an athlete or something like that, that you get to

567
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 5: experience those type of moments. That's watching your kids take

568
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 5: their first ship, watching them be born, that first time

569
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 5: you hold your baby, because it's a deal. Moms have

570
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 5: an instant connection with that baby. The first time that

571
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 5: baby moves around and they feel it it's done. Their

572
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 5: hearts are locked in. In my opinion, dads don't develop

573
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 5: that emotion until they hold them and until that baby's

574
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 5: in front of them. Now, ohs crap. Life's bigger than me,

575
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But there's only so many

576
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 5: moments for the average human being to come out and

577
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 5: experience those moments. But in the world of athleticism, you

578
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 5: get to re create those moments week in and week out.

579
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 5: That big play takes place and that kids come running

580
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 5: to the sideline and you body fiving them and you're

581
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 5: loud and you're screaming and you're getting after them, and hey,

582
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 5: we're gonna know. It's one of those things I always

583
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 5: tell them. I said, listen, let's blood in the water.

584
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 5: Let's go finish, because our quote, our thing, this shit

585
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 5: was deep water and you know, and we always talked about, Hey,

586
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 5: it's getting deep now. Because my thing is when people

587
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 5: ask me what do you mean by that, I say,

588
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 5: we're gonna train for those places like you talked about earlier,

589
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 5: of being in a place of discomfort. We're gonna train,

590
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 5: We're gonna get familiar, we're gonna get used to, we're

591
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 5: gonna get okay, we're being uncomfortable, and then we're gonna

592
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 5: drag our opponents to that point and see if they

593
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 5: can tread water with us, and if they can't, we're

594
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 5: gonna drown. But I think that's the same thing we

595
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 5: start talking about their emotional ride of life.

596
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to want I want to run

597
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: through a wall right now.

598
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: I know you want to suit up and go seriously.

599
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: Like I think I could do.

600
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: I could give you a good four minutes probably couch.

601
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 5: Okay. It annoyed me, probably because I wanna say I

602
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 5: got about six hot plays, but I'm gonna say it's

603
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 5: gonna be six plays of fury. But after that, somebody

604
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 5: don't have to come pull me off and ambulance.

605
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: I think it's so beautiful that you had this sport,

606
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 3: that you were able to put your everything into and

607
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 3: then turn it into a profession. How did you then

608
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: enter into coaching? Okay, this is the path I'm going

609
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: to go and then take us through that journey.

610
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 5: Oh man, I knew I loved the game, and I

611
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 5: knew I wanted to continue to be around it once

612
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 5: I figured out coaching was the avenue to do it

613
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 5: in You know, I started out in a little school

614
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 5: out in Nevada, Texas Community High School had an enrollment

615
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 5: of about three one hundred and fifty kids, and I

616
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 5: struck goal. I got lucky. I was the first year

617
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 5: coach that taught one PE class and got to stay

618
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 5: in the coach's office. Brian on Neil was the head

619
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 5: coach and got to hang out with him and talk

620
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 5: football all day and just go through it. Those small

621
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 5: moments that take place where a young man really needs you,

622
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 5: you know, whether it be a life situation, life circumstance,

623
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 5: or it's just something as small as a coach, I

624
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 5: really can't get this. Can we stop and go back

625
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 5: over it after practice? You know, you just see that, Oh,

626
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 5: and that kid comes back to you five years down

627
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 5: the road. You said something to that kid. You don't

628
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 5: even remember seeing it, but he goes, Coach, Remember when

629
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 5: you said this to me and you don't really but

630
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 5: you know, but Coach, you don't know, that meant the

631
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 5: world to me. I was struggling with this, so I

632
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 5: was going through that, you know what I mean, those

633
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 5: other moments in life that we'll never get back. So

634
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 5: be intentional. Start talking about when I'm talking to kids

635
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 5: and we're talking about life, or we're talking about whatever

636
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 5: circumstance they bring to me, I try to be very

637
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 5: intentional and very present in the moment with them because

638
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 5: different kids have differ strung and I promise you some

639
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 5: of the places I've been you'll see some real life

640
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 5: struggles from children that you feel like, Man, I go

641
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 5: home and I want to hoog my babies because you

642
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 5: know they they're blessed. They don't know that life's not

643
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 5: their bubble. They don't come you know, like when you

644
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 5: hit that light switch at home and the lights come on.

645
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 5: You turn that water foster and the water comes on

646
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 5: at over that friends and there's food in there. There's

647
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 5: kids that don't have that when they go home. You know.

648
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 5: That's why it was a big deal for me at

649
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 5: multiple places to make sure that we found a way

650
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 5: to feed kids like whatever it looked like. You know,

651
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 5: we wanted to find a way to get it done.

652
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 5: And I'll tell you I had some people in both communities,

653
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 5: every community that I've been into, like as a head coach,

654
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: which is which Taft Falls and Copel, that are willing

655
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 5: to go above and beyond for our kids. And that's

656
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 5: what it's about. I mean, that's a future.

657
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: And that's it, and that's a community come together for

658
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: the greater good exactly to provide for that stability for

659
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: that future. And it's through a sport, you know why

660
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: it's a big deal. We ate lunch before we went

661
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: to the game and spoke to the kids. That night,

662
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: I was watching, I am serving everything, I am reading

663
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: all the kids.

664
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm watching you, watching the.

665
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: Other coaches because I wanted to see, like how wired

666
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: tight is this unit that's my own mater And if

667
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: I needed to call you out, I was going to

668
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: And man, you got up and it was food. It

669
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: was done eating, time to get back to the stadium.

670
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: And it was like, as soon as you said something,

671
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: I looked at Ash and I was like, he's got

672
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: this shit wire tight. I said, that just reminded me

673
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: in the Marine Corps. You hear one snap and it's

674
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: like eyeballs and just a finger and everybody's gone.

675
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: It's it was like, okay, good, they respect them. That's

676
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: most important, you know that.

677
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 5: How do you get that from them?

678
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: Though?

679
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 5: Right consistency, I'm consistently the same person. Whether it's I'm

680
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 5: consistently getting after their butt or I'm consistently loving on them,

681
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: it's all gonna come full circle. So when I say something,

682
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 5: I follow through.

683
00:28:59,440 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: Yep.

684
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 5: If I tell them don't, if the locker room's not clean,

685
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get after you tomorrow. I'm gonna do it

686
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 5: like there's no well, they almost did it right, almost

687
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 5: gets you beat. You know, there's no almost got in

688
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 5: from the one yard line, almost got your beat, You

689
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 5: got stuffed. Live in the world of right now. I

690
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 5: take care of it right now, And I tell them,

691
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 5: how do you train kids? How do you train kids?

692
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 5: How you train grown ups? How do you change every train?

693
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 5: Everybody immediate response, not I was handling tomorrow. Don't put

694
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 5: it off till tomorrow. Let's do it right now. Let's

695
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 5: handle it right now. And I think that's living in

696
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 5: a right now society. You know that's the world I

697
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 5: live in, and I can live life that way as

698
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 5: a football coach. My wife it drives her crazy because

699
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm fiery, I'm wired up, but I don't

700
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 5: get stressed out like things that stress her out, Like

701
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 5: people will call me and ask me, hey, coach, you

702
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: want to come talk to us about this head job

703
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 5: or that head job, or possibly moving here or something

704
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 5: like that. She gets she gets all wound tight, like

705
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: I don't. I told her, I said, what do you

706
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 5: wound worried about? I'm passionate about everything I do, but

707
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 5: situations don't stress me out. I don't live in a

708
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 5: stressful place. Now, I'm wound tight. My heart rate gets up,

709
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 5: but as far as folding the pressure and stress. For

710
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 5: some people, stress overwhelms them stressful situations. I'll tell my

711
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 5: wife this. Since I was younger, even when I got

712
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 5: into tussles and got in the fights with people, everything

713
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 5: around me slowed down like it was in slow motion.

714
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 5: I promise you. I could see things that were happening

715
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 5: around me, and I wouldn't even understand how that happened.

716
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 5: But it's just my body's response to stressful situations. The

717
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 5: way I'm wired that's a gift.

718
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's a gift.

719
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: I guarantee, see you, I've been in just so many

720
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: fist fights, if not more than you, And I promise

721
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: you that's a gift because not a damn thing slowed

722
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: down when I was in fist place.

723
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 5: It was weird. It's weird to me, man. I don't

724
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: know how it happens, but that's the way it's always been.

725
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 5: Like I can remember everything that took place in that situation.

726
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 5: Like so when things get crazy and people are out

727
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 5: of control, I don't know if it's just something that

728
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 5: kicks into where I can kind of see it and

729
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 5: watch it for what it is or whatever's happening. But

730
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 5: I hardly ever lose my composure. And I tell our

731
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 5: kids that all the time. If you see me lose

732
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 5: my composure, hit the panic. But they know me losing

733
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 5: my composure is not me chewing you out of the numbers, right,

734
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 5: because that's what I do. That's part of who I am.

735
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 5: But if I'm freaking out, I don't know what we're

736
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 5: gonna do. You'll never see that from me, you know

737
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 5: what I mean.

738
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: And that's why your kids respect you. That's why your

739
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: football players respect you, and your other coaches respect you

740
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: because you're consistent. It's so refreshing and Jake mentioned it earlier,

741
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: but we do it. It's more often than not that

742
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: we're talking to someone and we ask them who influenced

743
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: you or who.

744
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 4: Really played a part in that.

745
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: Coaches, you see it as a privilege, but you also

746
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: get the huge responsibility.

747
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because.

748
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 4: What did football unlock in you?

749
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 5: A sense of responsibility and accountability. I'm accountable for more

750
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 5: than just myself. It unlocked that before I had children,

751
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 5: and then children really brought it full circle, as in

752
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 5: this world is bigger than me, seriously and my desiring drive.

753
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 5: I was always competitive, but I think it unlocked a

754
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 5: different level of competitiveness for me because you know, I

755
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 5: think everybody wants to be successful, but who wants to

756
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 5: do the dirty work to be good at those things?

757
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 5: That's where rubber Measter Road and the greater are separated

758
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 5: from the average. When nobody's watching and nobody's they're pushing

759
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 5: you in PROD and you to be better. Are you

760
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 5: willing to show up and find a way to get better?

761
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 5: What's your day look like if you're trying to win?

762
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 5: Or are you trying to win in everything you do.

763
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 5: Are you like, Okay, I'll win at this because I'm

764
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 5: good at it. But this I'm not very good at it.

765
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 5: So I'm just gonna not try not to do this

766
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 5: as much. No, those great players find a way to

767
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 5: find their weakness and push their weight through those things.

768
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 5: You know, like ray Lewis is one of my favorite

769
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 5: football players, and everybody asked me why I said this

770
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 5: because of the way he played the game, his passion,

771
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 5: his fire, and one of his biggest quotes was, you

772
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: may be bigger than me, stronger than me, but you'll

773
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 5: never outwork me for sixty minutes. So will you allow

774
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 5: your opponents to outwork you? Will you allow when you

775
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 5: settle in life? Let's talk about that a little bit.

776
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 5: When you settle in life, I settle for being the

777
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 5: second best on my team. That means it's time for

778
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 5: me to quit doing that because now I don't have

779
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 5: no job to be better than you. And I tell

780
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 5: my backups every day, people who are not the starters,

781
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 5: your job is to take his job every day every day.

782
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 5: The starter's job is to try to keep that divide,

783
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 5: to keep you as his backup every day. If your job.

784
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 5: Ain't coming in here every day to try to take

785
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 5: his job and make me tell you not this week.

786
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 5: You almost had him, but not this week. And when

787
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 5: I tell you that, that doesn't light another fire under

788
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 5: you to be like, Okay, what do I gotta do

789
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 5: to jump him next week. That's where great teams are created.

790
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, most definitely, And that's what it's proof positive too,

791
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: that you can have that inner competition, right, You're after

792
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: the same goal when it's a championship, you after the

793
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: freaking dub. But having that inner competition it makes you better.

794
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: It's that iron Sharpen's iron saying you're only as strong

795
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: as your weakest slink. Hey, I can relate to that

796
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: from the days when I played and people I mean

797
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: just challenging you and you knew who was there and

798
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 2: who had it, and then you knew who was close

799
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: and the coach is damn sure.

800
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 5: And you know what you do as a coach. You

801
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 5: put that guy in the feel More often you don't

802
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 5: take the job, but you find ways to get him

803
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 5: snaps at a different place where I got to get

804
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 5: him on the field because I know what he brings

805
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 5: to the party. You know, That's why I said, how

806
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 5: about that settling for being second? I tell kids all

807
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 5: the time, ever settle, because if you settle, you're settling

808
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 5: for being second best in life. Once you settle once

809
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 5: and you become a place where you're comfortable with settling,

810
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 5: you're gonna settle for being second best at finding a wife.

811
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: You're gonna see this girl over here, you think she's awesome,

812
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 5: but you're gonna allow somebody else to walk in and

813
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 5: talk to her before you do, because you settling. You're like, ah,

814
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 5: she may be out of my league. You're gonna settle

815
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 5: for being second and finding a job because he's a

816
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 5: little smarter than me. I know, I might out working,

817
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 5: but he's smarter and better than me, so I'll take

818
00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 5: his assistant job.

819
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: You see.

820
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: And that's what people need to understand, all right, Because

821
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: I know that we talked about football a lot on

822
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: the show, and here's why. Because you were molding the

823
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: future leaders of this country, of possibly the world.

824
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: We don't know, but you were making an impact.

825
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: And you know because you were on the receiving end

826
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: as a kid who had no idea what the hell

827
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: you wanted to do or which way you were gonna go,

828
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: and the coach helped you get there, somebody who was

829
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: convicted and who they are and driven to give of

830
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: themselves just like you do with these kids. The same

831
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: reason they respect you, why you stand up and walk out.

832
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: They know it's time to go, so.

833
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 5: You know, and I I've had coaches tell me that before,

834
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 5: like how you listen? How do you get them to

835
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 5: do that? So it's the standard. There ain't no dropping

836
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 5: the ball. It's a standard that we said and it's

837
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 5: going to be done that way or you won't be

838
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 5: on my team. That's the truth of it. And I'll

839
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 5: tell you this, I'm blessed I have a staff full

840
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 5: of coaches. You've always got this vision of what you

841
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 5: want your program to look like, but I need those

842
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,479
Speaker 5: other fifteen men to pull that vision out. I'm telling

843
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 5: them what I want. But they helped me bring it

844
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 5: to fruition.

845
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: And they would bleed for it, you know what I mean.

846
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: We got to Ashton, I got a spendi of time

847
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 2: with all of them. I mean, they would absolutely bleed

848
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: for you. You're you're a great people collector, and I

849
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: think that attributes to your success on the gridiron. And

850
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: I think that has everything to do with where you

851
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 2: started and where you are now.

852
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 5: I just believe in doing right by people. I tell

853
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 5: guys all the time, I'll run through a wall for

854
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 5: you as long as you're doing your job. But you

855
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 5: better know if you ain't, I'm coming for you too. No,

856
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 5: and our coach will tell you. They're like, hey, we

857
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: love him, he's great to work for, but he's gonna

858
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 5: get after you if it ain't right. Sometimes I'll get

859
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 5: after a coach for a different response, because I don't

860
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 5: always get after a coach to get after the coach

861
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 5: that was indirectly at the kid. But I want to

862
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: see how that young man handles that situation. If he

863
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 5: goes down, sits on that bench, starts eating nice and

864
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 5: not in drinking gatorade and not worried about what just happened.

865
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 5: His coach got his butt shootout for him, that tells

866
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Speaker 5: me things have happened. Wow, that coach has failed to

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Speaker 5: create a create an environment where that kid loves his coach.

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00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 5: He don't have a relationship with that kid, so that

869
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Speaker 5: kid is not invested in him in the appropriate situation.

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Speaker 5: When you get after a coach about a kid and

871
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 5: that kid knows directly it was about his performance. He's

872
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 5: gonna be sitting over there waiting for you to quit

873
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 5: talking to that coach, And like, coach, that's.

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Speaker 2: Ownership and account that's exactly.

875
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: What do you do to relax and recharge.

876
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 5: I'll go fishing. I like to go out and do

877
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 5: some fishing, but I like to go catching a lot

878
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 5: of a lot of draw fishing. But you know, I'm

879
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 5: a big tinker, so I'll be out in the garage,

880
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 5: like you go, look at my grans. Wife gets so

881
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 5: upset with me because there's always stuff in there that

882
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 5: she can't park in the garage. He gets all upset.

883
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm a guy that will I'll buy a

884
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 5: little small engines and work on him and do that

885
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. Just something to keep myself busy, I

886
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 5: promise you. I'm probably ADHD all that all wrapped up

887
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 5: in the one, but I was never diagnosed, So it's

888
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 5: just one of those deals where I found ways to

889
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 5: cope with that extra energy without the medicaid and that

890
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 5: kind of stuff.

891
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: I'd like to know one person or entity that had

892
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: the biggest impact on you, Okay, So it's the one

893
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: person that you can't go through a day living or

894
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: not and it'll be like this rest of your life

895
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: without thinking about that person.

896
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 5: Probably my dad, no matter what, through all his faults,

897
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 5: because he wasn't perfect, you know what I mean, mistakes,

898
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 5: fought his own demons with prescription painkillers and all that

899
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. But through all that, he showed me

900
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 5: how to be a man. He showed me how to

901
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 5: put my family first. He showed me that it's okay

902
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 5: to be selfless, you know, because I remember sometimes he

903
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 5: would cook dinner for us when we had moo to

904
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: Pleasant Grove and the paving company hadn't took off yet,

905
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 5: and he would make sure I ate, my mom ate,

906
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 5: my brothers ate, and it would be not as much left.

907
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 5: But he made sure his kids ate, and his wife ate.

908
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 5: So I think he's this. If I had to say

909
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 5: one person or one entity, it's him, because no matter

910
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 5: through all his faults, he showed me how to take

911
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 5: care of my family and be a man and treat

912
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 5: people right.

913
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 4: I get emotional at least one episode.

914
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: That's just that's beautiful, like truly a parental sacrifice. I

915
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: want to know, what would you say to a young

916
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: man sitting in East Dallas.

917
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 5: Oh man, I tell him the world is bigger than

918
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 5: East Dallas. Just give yourself a chance to get out.

919
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 5: I saying you don't. You can't go back. I go back. Still.

920
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 5: My grandma still lives there, not as often as I

921
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 5: would like to. My Grandma's ninety three and she still

922
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 5: gets around and she does great. One matriarch of our

923
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 5: family does. But I'll tell you this, I tell him,

924
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 5: don't be afraid to embrace new challenges. The world is

925
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: a lot bigger than that small area that you're in.

926
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 5: Go out, enjoy life. Spend time learning about other cultures

927
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 5: and finer things in life, and not saying it's got

928
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 5: to all be about money and finances. Just find a

929
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 5: way to invest in other people. Learn about people, watch

930
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 5: people a lot earlier in life.

931
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 4: Great advice.

932
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: Coach antonio' Wiley not only the head football coach at Coppel.

933
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: High School, the Coppo High School in Coppel.

934
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Speaker 3: Texas, where football is king, but also a great father,

935
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 3: a great leader, and a great friend.

936
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for being here with us on

937
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: the good stuff.

938
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Speaker 5: Thank you guys for having me. It's been amazing.

939
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: You're a blessing for us to be able to call

940
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: family and brother bro and we appreciate you.

941
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Speaker 5: Well appreciate you guys. I think it's amazing what you

942
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 5: guys are doing. Like I said, we love to jump

943
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 5: in and join in on some other stuff that you

944
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 5: guys got going. So just know that we're a phone

945
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 5: call away and Copeil Football still loves you and we

946
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: want you around.

947
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 4: How pumped up are you right now?

948
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: There's not a wall I couldn't run through.

949
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 3: You were so ready to go put on that uniform again.

950
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's in our wall in a shadow box.

951
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: It's kind of a drag that, like, I can't leave

952
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: here and go put this energy into something.

953
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: It's like, no, just gotta go to dinner and do

954
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: normal life stuff.

955
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: It's not it sucks.

956
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: It's because we need this stuff, man, and we gotta.

957
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: But that's on me.

958
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: We got to figure out how to channel it and

959
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: use it for the greater good. But I mean, that's

960
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: why I could do this every day. I just need

961
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: this once a month, yeah, just once a month, just

962
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: one quick energy recharger, Like just open your mouth and

963
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: let the words flow feed my soul.

964
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's such a great leader of young men. He

965
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: is such a great husband and father, and clearly that

966
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: comes from his own upbringing and just that love of football,

967
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: which obviously you.

968
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Speaker 4: And I share and have since day one. It's contagious.

969
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's turned his passion into a paycheck.

970
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he turned that program around the year before

971
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: he came to Coppel, they were four and six, nine

972
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 3: and two his first season, nine and two.

973
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Speaker 2: Like you said, he wants to win. He has no

974
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: interest in second place, and that's why he demands the

975
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: most of his people. That's not only his kids on

976
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: the team, but his assistant coaches. I mean, he's the

977
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: leader all the way around because he lives the example.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

979
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: Coach Antonio Wiley such energy, It just it feels so

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Speaker 3: good to have these conversations. We hope that you were

981
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Speaker 3: inspired as well, and thank you so much for listening today.

982
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Speaker 3: If this episode touched you, please share it and be

983
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: part of making someone else's day better.

984
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Speaker 2: Put on your bad ass capes and go be great today.

985
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Speaker 2: And remember you can't do epic stuff without epic people.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the good Stuff.

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