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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and then most of all,

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Speaker 1: there's Jerry over there, Jerome Jay stir. Yeah, and this

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Speaker 1: is stuff you should know. That's right, Jerry's all dirty

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Speaker 1: from shoveling coal from the steam Technology episode. She is.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't mind, I would like to point

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Speaker 1: out something very exciting. No, I do mine. Let's keep

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Speaker 1: going right now. This is the very first episode out

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Speaker 1: of eight hundred and seventy plus episodes where Josh is

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Speaker 1: wearing short pants. Why would you say that, I do mind?

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Speaker 1: I do mind. I take it back, because I've seen

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Speaker 1: you wear shorts like twice in my life. Well, hold on, Hunt,

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Speaker 1: get a load of this. Well, aside from every morning

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Speaker 1: when we tumble out of our bunk beds, of course

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Speaker 1: you're wearing your off tuxedo pants. Those are boxers. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you never wear shorts as a rule, so I was

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Speaker 1: astounded that you wore them into the office. Well I

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Speaker 1: like astounding you. I like to just, you know, mix

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Speaker 1: things up. Once every eight years. I look forward to

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen in year Sixteo does some quick

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Speaker 1: math Chuck, Hey, I used to play darts. Oh you

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Speaker 1: know there's a dartboard here but no backboard. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's just like freewheeling. Who cares about the drywall

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Speaker 1: kind of situation very much. Sixteen is a big number

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Speaker 1: in darts, so you get used to adding and subtracting it,

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Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, what's the bulls eye worth a million? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean it depends. There's historically two games that you'll

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Speaker 1: play in darts, either cricket or OH one three one

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Speaker 1: or five on one. I've never heard that second one. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's really the main game. Like if you watch professional

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Speaker 1: darts when they show it once a you're on ESPN,

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Speaker 1: which is great fun by the way. Uh, they're playing

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Speaker 1: OH one, which is where you start with three D

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Speaker 1: one or five one and you work your way down

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Speaker 1: to zero. Oh so you're getting rid of points. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you're throwing just for as high numbers as you

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Speaker 1: can the triple ring and um, like a ton of

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Speaker 1: eight is the most you can hit. That's three triple

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Speaker 1: twenties and they throw which is amazing. So, well, what's

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Speaker 1: the what's the bulls eye worth? Then the bulls I

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Speaker 1: and O one is worth uh fifty on the red

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Speaker 1: and on the green. And then you have to boy,

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Speaker 1: we should do a show on this. Well yeah, I

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Speaker 1: guess we are right now. And then you have to

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Speaker 1: go out on an like let's say you have thirty

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Speaker 1: two left. You have to go out on a double.

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Speaker 1: See if they'd a double sixteen to go out? Man,

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Speaker 1: this sounds tough, and everybody does this drunk. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: really impressive. Right, I didn't know you played darts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I played in Athens in the League and then Atlanta

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Speaker 1: and Eague. And you know Justin Is he's like chairman

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Speaker 1: or something of the dark League of at least he

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Speaker 1: makes everybody call him that, right, call me chairman. We

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Speaker 1: should do on the darts man. I used to love playing.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it much anymore. Okay, let's do it. So shorts,

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Speaker 1: darts and past Yeah, and on Wednesdays we wear pink.

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Speaker 1: Today's Tuesday, though, so I'm wearing shorts. I'm wondering how

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Speaker 1: many things I got wrong just in that little five minute.

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Speaker 1: The same thing. Anytime we explain something, we get something wrong.

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Speaker 1: Have you noticed and our job is to explain things,

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Speaker 1: which is sad. I know, so, Chuckers. You know how

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Speaker 1: when you go through the airport and you come back

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Speaker 1: into the country from out of the country. When we

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Speaker 1: were in the UK, did you notice it took longer

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Speaker 1: than usual to get through the airport to your stuff

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Speaker 1: it was a pretty speedy experience. That's great, but it

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Speaker 1: can vary wildly. Yeah. And the thing that can vary

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Speaker 1: wildly is called customs passing through customs and actually it

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Speaker 1: used to be um, customs and immigration, which depending on

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Speaker 1: the port you're flying into, whether it be a seaport

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Speaker 1: and airport, spaceport, interdimensional port, heliport, heliport yeah, um, scuba port, sure,

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Speaker 1: submarine port yep, thin airport. I guess that's the same

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Speaker 1: as an airport. Huh Um. Those might have been two

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Speaker 1: different agencies, customs and immigration, not so in in two

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Speaker 1: and now they're called Customs and Border Protection and there

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Speaker 1: the day the Customs Agency, they would have said, hey,

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Speaker 1: to know what's on you. Would you buy while you

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Speaker 1: a little bit. If they're tough guys. Uh, and you

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Speaker 1: if you say, well, I got this thousand dollar watched,

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Speaker 1: they say, you know, the United States government some money, buddy.

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Speaker 1: That's right. It is a It is a way to

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Speaker 1: regulate importing and exporting. Yeah, and when trade right, trade exactly.

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Speaker 1: And trade is obviously a very old concept, right. Any

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Speaker 1: any time one group had a surplus that another group wanted.

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Speaker 1: I got lots of potatoes, Well I got lots of wheat. Right,

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Speaker 1: let's trade, let's trade right. Well, at some point people said, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: this is going way too smoothly. We need to interject

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Speaker 1: a federal entity to um extract some sort of tribute

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Speaker 1: from this trade. That's what a duty is. That's what

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Speaker 1: Like you can say, well, the federal government is is

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Speaker 1: actually promoting domestic business, which is true in a way, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: doing business overseas is by imposing heavier and heavier tariffs. Use,

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Speaker 1: if somebody's manufacturing potatoes overseas cheaper than they're manufactured here, um,

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Speaker 1: the American people are going to say, well, we want

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Speaker 1: these Irish potatoes, they're way cheaper, um, sure, And the U. S.

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Speaker 1: Government will say, well, we want you guys buying domestic

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Speaker 1: potatoes because it helps our economy. Have you ever been

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Speaker 1: to Idaho? Right, everybody loves Idaho. Why don't you want

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Speaker 1: to help out the Idahoans. And so they'll they'll place

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Speaker 1: and the federal government goes yeah, yeah, they say, look

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Speaker 1: at it, it's stamped with a pesticide that has made

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Speaker 1: new Let's say they stamped with the pestiscids, thinking how

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Speaker 1: that would work. Uh, should we talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: this this technique of the US federal government. Certainly not

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Speaker 1: guy is so hot right now. Uh. I just bought

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Speaker 1: pretty you just broke my brain. Uh So what happened was, um,

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Speaker 1: we're in trouble because we need some sort of revenue

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Speaker 1: going to support our growing government, but not only that

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Speaker 1: the early Congress used to DeCamp from one city to

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Speaker 1: And the only way the federal government can support itself

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Speaker 1: weird with domestic taxation right now, Like, yeah, we can't

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Speaker 1: purchase of Alaska Ka Seward's folly one point five million

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Speaker 1: Right if it hadn't have been for the Customs Agency, um,

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Speaker 1: its territory through broken treaties, the which we were find doing. Sure,

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Speaker 1: but apparently they wanted to legitimize it somewhat yea. So

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Speaker 1: um we said, well, we'll just pay for some of it, yea.

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Speaker 1: Like we said, they were the first and only federal

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Speaker 1: way many more things than they should be doing. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So out of the custom Service was born things like immigration,

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Speaker 1: Formerly all that stuff was under the purview of the

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Speaker 1: already brought it into the country, if you take it

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00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: back out and like one of the straps comes off

425
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: and you get it fixed abroad. You have to write

426
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: down that you got your daughter's backpack fixed abroad and

427
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: how much that costs you. Yeah, Or if like a

428
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: boy have been loading up on pay streets in Paris,

429
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: I need to have my pants let out an inch,

430
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: Supposedly you have to cover that and claim your new

431
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: larger pants. Anything you buy inherit or have repaired abroad

432
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: or altered, Yep, you have to pay. You have to

433
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: declare you don't necessarily have to pay a duty on

434
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: it though. And that's that's um where the exemption come in. Yeah,

435
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: and uh, it varies from country to country. In the

436
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: United States, what is it eight hundred dollars? It depends

437
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: on where you are. Eight hundred bucks is typical, but

438
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: it can go up to sixteen hundred bucks. If you're

439
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: in an insular possession like Guam, American Samoa or the

440
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: US Virgin Islands, you can buy sixteen hundred dollars with

441
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: the stuff and get bring it in duty free. Or

442
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: if you're married, you can declare as a family and

443
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: each individual gets that allotment. Correct, right, So if you

444
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: have something that's like twelve dollars and Emily's bringing in

445
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: something that's like four hundred dollars. You can combine the

446
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 1: two and both jointly. Uh, come jointly declare him for

447
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: you can combine your exemptions. But let me say that

448
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: on vacation, what you've never bought anything for a thousand

449
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: dollars except food and wine, And that's accumulative amount. But

450
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: that's a whole other bag. Yeah, but you know there

451
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: was a good rate going on those for bush meat,

452
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: Like it's almost cheaper to buy it than not buy it,

453
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: oh abroad by one here get ripped off? Uh? I

454
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: remember I might have said this one before. My friend

455
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: Andrew one time, his old grandmother was talking about how

456
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: it's cheaper to go on a cruise than to just

457
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: stay in New York. So she cruised all the time.

458
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: Is that right? She was like, Oh, it's cheaper to

459
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: go on the cruise. I don't know if that's true,

460
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: but for her it was, or at least she said

461
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: it was. I thought it was very quaint and funny

462
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: at least. Yeah, you mean I went on a cruise

463
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: and there was a legendary woman on there who had

464
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: been on We went and like may she lived, the

465
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: woman who'd been on since December. She just kept like

466
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: signing up for the next Creuse state on the boat

467
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: the whole time. It was just having the time of

468
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: her life. Crazy. We never saw her though. I think

469
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: they just used that to be like, yeah, if you

470
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: want to sign up for the next one, and then

471
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: when you say no, they don't speak to you for

472
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the cruise. That'd be great. Actually, don't

473
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: bother me, Yeah, let me alone. Uh where else? Um,

474
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: there are different growth programs in in certain countries like

475
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: the Caribbean and uh sub Saharans Africa where you can

476
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: bring back more duty free items. So I guess just

477
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: trying to encourage more trade with those places, which makes sense. Yeah,

478
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: So you have an exemption up the eight hundred bucks

479
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: and after that, after the eight hundred bucks, Um, you

480
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: have to start paying duty on stuff, right and obviously

481
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: if you go over by a hundred dollars, you're gonna

482
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: be You're gonna get hit hard. What No, not the case. Okay,

483
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: I thought you were being serious. No, No, duty's still

484
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: not that much. It's nothing. So if you if you

485
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: I think that the first thousand dollars after your exemption,

486
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: so you would have to you would have to spend

487
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: on stuff that you're bringing back in right, Um, it's

488
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: still just three. So if you're trying to like, so

489
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: what is the thirty bucks on a thousand dollars worth

490
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: of of stuff? Yeah, if you if you bought things

491
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: for a couple hundred dollars and you're trying to sneak

492
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: it in there to avoid duty, you're just being foolish.

493
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: You're you're dummy. Yeah, it's like a few dollars on

494
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: that level. And the mental fALS article actually makes it

495
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: the point that, um, you won't even necessarily be charged

496
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: that extra additional duty because that requires paperwork that the

497
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: customs officer has to fill out to collect you know,

498
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: five or ten bucks from you. They're probably is gonna

499
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: be like, just keep it go. Yeah, you don't have

500
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: any bags of cocaine in pellets in your stomach, dude,

501
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, come on look at me, and they all right,

502
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: we'll go through. And and what's funny is you're allowed

503
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: one leader of booze, two d cigarettes and a hundred

504
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: cigars is a lot. Yeah, that's what I thought. Um,

505
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: unless you're an infant or a baby, you can have

506
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: the eight hundred dollar exemption as a baby. But it

507
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: doesn't apply to tobacco or alcohol. But so you're just

508
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: allowed one leader per person through customs duty free. And

509
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: what's funny is everybody stops right there. Oh well, I

510
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: can't have more than one leader. You can buy more

511
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: than one leader, and if it's like twenty five bucks,

512
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna spend seventy five extra cents on the duty

513
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Yeah, And I just, uh, I want

514
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: to go on record as saying I hate duty free

515
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: shops why because they are awful. It's just like it's

516
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: like one giant and especially in an international airport, you're

517
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: forced to walk through this giant cosmetics assault of cosmetics

518
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: and and perfume me since and you know me, and

519
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: my smells like I started sneezing walking through there, and

520
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: it's and it's all just I mean duty I was

521
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: looking up I was like, how much of a deal

522
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: is this? And it really depends on what you're getting. Well,

523
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: with with alcohol and tobacco especially, it's usually a much

524
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: better deal. Well it's it depends on where you are

525
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: and what you're buying. Like I looked up um this

526
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: one site that compared a lot of airports and boozes

527
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: and like this one booze I don't even know was

528
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was something some Italian booze in like Germany.

529
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: It was cheaper, so very good deal. But then I

530
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: looked up Jack Daniels and they listed fourteen airports around

531
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: the world and it was no more than like three

532
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: dollars cheaper at any of them, or three euros. I

533
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: think it's more like the thrill of buying some booze

534
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: and think it's a big That's what I think it is.

535
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: It's just a big scam. Duty free everybody. Well, what's

536
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: funny is if you if you buy a thousand dollars

537
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: worth of booze um, you will get that first leader exempted.

538
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: But then after that you'll have to pay a duty

539
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: on it, even if you bought it at the duty

540
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: free airport, because duty free when it's a duty free store,

541
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: like they're saying, we don't have to pay duty on it.

542
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna pass the savings on to you. But if

543
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: you past your exemption when you go into your home country,

544
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: you have to pay duty because the duty free refers

545
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: to the owners of the store. Yeah, they should be

546
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: called duty free for me, right and maybe for you,

547
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: depending on where you're at with your exemption, which is

548
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: a clunky thing to call an area airport. Instead they

549
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: just call it things remembered well. And I didn't know

550
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: this because I haven't been on a transatlantic flight in

551
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: so many years. But they sell that junk on the plane.

552
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. They were walking up and down the aisle

553
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: talking watches that I that doesn't bother me as much

554
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: as the credit card pushing the credit cards. But they

555
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: have like a seven minute announcement about how they have

556
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: this great credit card deal and get it now and

557
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: don't you want this? And then they send the people

558
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: up the aisle like credit card credit card? Who wants

559
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: a credit card? I just want to fly in peace,

560
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: you know. Just all I want to do is just

561
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: fly on Delta and listen to stuff you should know.

562
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: And wants your Internet round up? Uh hey, shout out

563
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: to Virgin Atlantic, though I had a good experience flying

564
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: with him. They're a partner of Delta's. I wouldn't expect

565
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: anything less. Yeah, it was very nice. They don't Nickel

566
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: and dime you And I said that on the web

567
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: on Facebook the other day and someone from the UK said,

568
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: what does Nicol and Dime you mean Hill and I

569
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: guess Pence and Farthings maybe, Um no, I said, it's

570
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: I guess it's a strictly American term for like just

571
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: charging you little bits for every little thing, like you know,

572
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: the pillows, this buch of the movies as much that

573
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: your phones. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, Like you know

574
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: all the movies were free to give you headphones, which

575
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: I've already had my own, and giving an eyemask and

576
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: a toothbrush, and it's all just very nice and civil

577
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: like it used to be to put you in a

578
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: sleeper hold until you fall asleep if you ask him to. Yeah,

579
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: this lovely English gentleman put me in a sleeper was hilarious,

580
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: said ninety night. You're sleep now, mate, all right, And

581
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: we covered duty and its fullness. No, but we should

582
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: probably take a break, all right, and well more duty

583
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: after this. Alright, Chuck, we're back and we're talking about duty.

584
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: I hate duty, do you, No? I just hate the

585
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: I already w off on duty free. Yeah, I've got it.

586
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: Feels like just this that gross consumers. I'm like black Friday.

587
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like duty free. Let me buy booze and perfume.

588
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 1: The thing is a smart traveler tip for you here.

589
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: If you ever have a lay over at an airport,

590
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: make your way, and especially if it's early morning or

591
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: yet an overnight flight or whatever, make your way to

592
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: the duty free section. Go to that cosmetics section and

593
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: look for stuff like toner or under eyebomb or something

594
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: like that. And brother, it is refreshingly. Yeah, they've got

595
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: all the samples there and it's like just stuff that

596
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: will like make you feel human again. It's a little brufe,

597
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: just enough to get you where you're going, all right,

598
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: back to duty. Um. Well, here's a few things I

599
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: thought Mental Plots is always so great about. I want

600
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: to I want to point out Chuck. Every single time

601
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: one of us that says it said duty Jerry's like

602
00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: snickers um because she thinks it spelled d o d

603
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: y um. Mental floss is always so great about adding

604
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: fun little lists to their articles. Yeah, well this isn't

605
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: quite a listical, but they gave a few examples of

606
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: some weird regulations and they have one on absinthe. You

607
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: can bring absinthe back, but it has to be that

608
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: cannot have the ingredient. How do you pronounced that? T

609
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: h u j O n e n yes, sure, cone

610
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: to hany. I don't know what the country origin is.

611
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was in there. I thought

612
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: wormwood was the active ingredients. Well this it may not

613
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: be the active ingredient. I don't know. But uh. And

614
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: then custom says the term absinthe cannot be the brand name,

615
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: and it cannot stand alone on the label the actual

616
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: word absinthe, and this one's hysterical. The artwork cannot project

617
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: images of hallucinogenic, psychotropic, or mind altering effects like it

618
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: can have on the like a guy going, whoa, it

619
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: can't be wowie zowie brand absent Yeah, which, of course, yeah,

620
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: that would be psychedelic. Sure, um, everybody knows how ze means.

621
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say, wey be gravy. That's what

622
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking that one that would work too. Uh

623
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: what else? Um? Oh, oh you can't as of two thousand,

624
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 1: the year two thousand, you can't bring in anything made

625
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: of dog or cat for awesome. Yeah, I can't believe that.

626
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: This is a law that had to be passed well

627
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: in other countries said do different things with dogs and cats,

628
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, so you can't you if you have a

629
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: dog skin cap. You better prepare to have that thing

630
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: confiscated at the border and spanked by me. You just

631
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: hang out, auto, let's bring him over here. Uh, this

632
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: one is interesting, um Haitian animal hide drums from animal skin.

633
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: You can't take it back because of anthrax and remember

634
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: our own stuff. He No TV show had a subplot

635
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: in an episode about a disease from a drum brought

636
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: back by fake Jerry played by Lucy Wayne. Right, Yes,

637
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: she brought back a drum that had was it anthrax fasciitis?

638
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: Is that what that one was? Yeah, it had some

639
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: disease on the drumhead. But apparently and we wrote those episodes,

640
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: so I guess we got it from the fact that

641
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 1: it's a real thing. I just don't remember. I don't either.

642
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't even recall our TV show. I don't either.

643
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: I drank to forget, so um chuck. Yes, we haven't

644
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: really talked about the big thing that that UM Customs

645
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: is known for, not just regulating trade and shipping containers

646
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: and all that, but thwarting smugglers. Right, yes, because there's Uh,

647
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: you talked a little bit about rum runners and that

648
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: kind of thing still goes on there's speed boat chases. Yeah, um,

649
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: they can search you in an airport, sure, yeah, that's

650
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: that's the thing about customs is they do not have

651
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: to have a warrant to search you. They don't even

652
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: have to have probable cause. Yeah I don't like what

653
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: your hair looks like. I think you look like a

654
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: drug smuggler. And come into this room and take your

655
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: clothes off, and there's like a storied, um history I

656
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: guess of of customs agents like just looking at somebody

657
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: and being like, that guy's drug mule, and the person

658
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: turns out to be a major drug mule, and they tried.

659
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 1: I read this article in Los Angeles Times. I can't

660
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: remember what it's called, but um, it was about how

661
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: the Customs Agency is trying to quantify that or turn

662
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: it into like a seminar, like take these decades of

663
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: experience and intuition and figure out how to, yeah, how

664
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: to sniff somebody off the case? Right, Um, And apparently

665
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: they've turned to behavioral science and really, like, are there

666
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: there's courses that they teach Customs and Border patrol um

667
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: or border protection how to suss out lying or deception,

668
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: how to racially profile probably, um, but I think it's

669
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: in this particular, so it's a different course. This one is. Um,

670
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: they say, well, if somebody you know has a hat

671
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: or a newspaper or something like that, they might put

672
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: it between you and them because they're putting up a

673
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: barrier because they're deceiving micro expressions body language, um uh,

674
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: speech patterns. Uh. Like I guess if you if you

675
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: have a very pat streamlined answer of where you were abroad,

676
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: that's going to raise a flag if you are, you know,

677
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: kind of back. Yeah, if you're too smooth, that's way,

678
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: way more unusual than somebody being like, well, also, you know,

679
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean I went to Canada, and I wasn't going

680
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: to go to Canada, but one of my friends said,

681
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: let's go to Canada, so we went. But you know,

682
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: we were just gonna hang out in in in in

683
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: in New York. That's so that's how I'm here. Yeah,

684
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: that's a step over here. No, that's going through Oh

685
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: it is. You're you're such an obvious city, you couldn't

686
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: possibly be trusted with the I thought there was a

687
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: middle ground. If you're like, I just went to Montreal,

688
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: why do you ask? Right? Then they would say you

689
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: clearly have a suitcase full of Faberge eggs. What are

690
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: you having those shorts? Uh? But you were talking about drugs,

691
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: which is which is the big thing? Um? And again

692
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: I think you said that the d e A finds

693
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: its origins and customs right, That's right, and they everyone

694
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: works in concert. Today. The Custom Service will work with

695
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: the d e A and the Coastguard and immigration and

696
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: naturalization because they all want to keep the drugs out.

697
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: So like, the Custom Service will have a plane, one

698
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: of those radar planes that flies very high above looking

699
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: at boats, and then they'll see a boat that looks

700
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: shady and they'll call down to let's like the coastguard

701
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: or maybe their own office who calls the coastguard as

702
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: you go out, and let's see what's going on in

703
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: that boat? And the what I think the description of

704
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: this is hilarious. They basically just chase him in a

705
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: boat until the guys decided to stop. What else you

706
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: gonna do? And then they board the boat and say

707
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: put up your your hand, yeah, and they do. If

708
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: they have a plane, they will get a couple of

709
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: things going on them. A jet plane to track from

710
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 1: way behind, and then a black hawk helicopter to follow

711
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: right behind the plane. Then they don't see him, Yeah,

712
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: behind and beneath yeah uh and apparently yeah, you can't see.

713
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about them, like, yeah, there's no

714
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: side view mirrors on a plane. It's just hysterical to

715
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: think about a drug plane just flying along like this

716
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: is great black Hawk helicopter right below them, just like,

717
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: all right, suckers, just go ahead and land and then

718
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: we'll we'll introduce ourselves. And that's what they do. And

719
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: some people just say, I'll take my chances walking through

720
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: an airport with cocaine taped to my body. These are

721
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: the people that make for the best. Um, crazy stuff

722
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: smuggled through. Uh, customs are crazy ways to smuggle drugs.

723
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: But I wonder how many like you hear about it

724
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: on the news when someone gets caught. People get away

725
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: with it a lot of it, right, because that's what

726
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: they're doing. They're playing the odds that you're just not

727
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: gonna get sniffed out, right exactly. Um, And I think

728
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: it's it's probably exceedingly difficult these days to make it through,

729
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: especially if you don't actually have it physically deposited inside

730
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: your body because of the not just the drug dogs,

731
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: but they have UM, they have devices that can smell air.

732
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: Essentially it's a it's a sniffing device UM and it

733
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: figures out what molecules are floating around the air. And

734
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: if it's like, oh, well this is cocaine, Uh, there's

735
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: probably cocaine in that person's suitcase or whatever. An electro

736
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: vacuum is what that's called. Difficult to get around that

737
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: difficult to get around a dog. Plus also you're also

738
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: being scrutinized by the customs agent himself or herself. So

739
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: I would imagine it's very tough to get it through

740
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: unless you've ingested it, and some people have. There's a

741
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: dude who got caught in I think Miami or Fort

742
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: Lauderdale in two fifteen. He'd swallowed a hundred and I

743
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: think forty eight pellets of coke, three pounds he had

744
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: in his stomach. That's so dangerous. And another woman got

745
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: busted with three pounds in her breasts that was breast implants. Crazy.

746
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: So you'll still get busted. But I think you make

747
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: a good point. I really wonder what the estimate is

748
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: for how many people who actually do make it through unmolested. Yeah, Uh,

749
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: here was our deal coming back in this time. It

750
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: was way easier and quicker than I thought. Like we

751
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: filled out the little customs card on the plane, they

752
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: didn't even ask for that. Yeah. I walked up and

753
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: they asked for a couple of questions, like what did

754
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: you bring in? And we said, you know, a few gifts.

755
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: How much was it worth, you know, eighty dollars And

756
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: they said, all right, welcome back. And I said, is that.

757
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: It walked through to the luggage and I thought there

758
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: would be a more heavily scrutinized process after that or something,

759
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: and there wasn't. There were a couple of beagles, very

760
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: cute drug sniffing beagles, and uh, they were walking around

761
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: and that was it. And then we got our stuff

762
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: and left. Well your bags had already I'm sure been

763
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: X ray and crazy like exposed to some other stuff. Yeah. Um.

764
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: And and it's not just like at the airport. At

765
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: at ports like the border between Mexico and the United States,

766
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: they have like truck size X rays. You they X

767
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: ray um um. And that's part of that hundred percent initiative.

768
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: They want to be able to do that to a

769
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: percent of everything all containers coming in the United States,

770
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: like I said, or they have X ray rooms like

771
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: in Total Call, where you just walk everyone through this

772
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: room and they look for weird bulges um or hollow

773
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: empty spots that shouldn't be there. You still haven't seen

774
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,959
Speaker 1: spinal tap, have you? I have? Oh? You did, Yeah,

775
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: but I don't remember a lot of it. When the

776
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: bass player Derek Small is played by Harry Shearer, he's

777
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: going through and he has metal on them and they

778
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: have the uh the metal wand and it's going off

779
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: every time they pass over his his crotch, his growing area,

780
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: and he's like you, I don't know what's going on.

781
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. And finally he takes

782
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: a he had a a cucumber wrapped in tinfoil stuffed

783
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: down his pants. Why would it be wrapped in tinfoil? Well,

784
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: that's just part of the greatness of that joke. I

785
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: think that is a good joke. You know, it was

786
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: very funny. Um. Uh what else one of the things

787
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: that got me which is pretty smart. So um, they

788
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: might take a dog on a plane like after c

789
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: D board it, Yeah, and have the dogs sniff around

790
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: because they may miss it as you're walking past. But

791
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: if you've been sitting on a plane for eight hours,

792
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: that drug smells are going to get into the seat.

793
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: And if the farting cocaine smells into that seat, and

794
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: if that dog sniffs that, they'll say, well who was

795
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: in And they'll say, oh, well, Josh Clark was You're

796
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: in the duty free shop thinking like I just got

797
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm putting some moisturizing around my face, thinking about all

798
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: the money I'm gonna have to buy moisturizer with, and

799
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: uh yeah yeah. Next thing I know, there's a beagle

800
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: sitting down next to me, looking up, and I go, uh,

801
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: you know what you do though? You just spray some

802
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: rose water in the beagles face and run and make

803
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: a cap out of its fur. Oh why do you

804
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: have to go there? Another thing that they're looking for

805
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: is cash money. Um oh yeah, laundering money and getting

806
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: it out of the country is is a big deal. Yeah.

807
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: The custom seats something like fifty three million dollars in

808
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: bulk currency. In cash. I think, what is it ten

809
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: grand that you have to declare coming back into the US,

810
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: and you do, They're not gonna you can take as

811
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: much in and out as you want. But you have

812
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: to declare it because they want to keep track of

813
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff because I don't know if we

814
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: said um. In addition to goods being imported and exported,

815
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: a country, especially like a centralized UM, federal government wants

816
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: to know where it's arms are going. They want to

817
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: keep it tight tight control of that and where it's

818
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: money is going, because you can destabilize a country with

819
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: both of those things. And so they try to keep

820
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: a pretty good eye on where it's going and where

821
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: it's coming from, not not just in the that it

822
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: could destabilize the government, but they want a piece of it.

823
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: They want to attacks that stuff, you know. So um, Yeah,

824
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: one of the easiest ways to under money is to

825
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: just smuggle it from one country or another, smuggle it

826
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: out of the US to a country that's not really

827
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: paying nearly as much attention. Bam, you get some legitimate funds. Yep.

828
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: And we did an episode of money laundering, correct, Yes

829
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: we did. And we did one on police dogs. Yeah,

830
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: I just think is all over this thing. Uh. And

831
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: then finally, one of the things that UM is a

832
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: big deal. If you've ever traveled in and out of California,

833
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: let's say is one example. UM. They actually have a

834
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: produce UM stop Yeah, where you're stopped in your car

835
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: and they say, do you have any uh produce on you?

836
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: Any vegetables, any plants? Just a cucumber with tinfoil right

837
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: FRONTA uh. These are actually legal goods, but they are

838
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: prohibited in certain areas because of infestations of various pests,

839
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: and notably in California in the nineteen eighties, a couple

840
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: of things happened. The nineteen eighties was a bad decade

841
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: for the med flow in California. UM. Early on in

842
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: the early eighties, it was a bad infestation, and then

843
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: Governor Jerry Brown had a series of missteps on whether

844
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: or not to spray um the state with this gross

845
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: stuff that would kill the flies but also have bad

846
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Speaker 1: effects in the environment. And he was an environmentalist, and

847
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: it was I think I can't remember. I think he

848
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: eventually did spray, but waited too long and costs state

849
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: a lot of money, but he also angered the environmentalist

850
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: until will be off, it was like probably, I mean

851
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: there was. It may have been a No one situation, UM.

852
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: And I'm sure some Californians will have a better memory

853
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: of this than me. Um, but supposedly in the late

854
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: eighties there was one piece of bad fruit that caused

855
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: a big med fly outbreak. And then I looked up

856
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: in nine there was a an intentional, supposedly eco terrorist attack.

857
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: We're a group called the Breeders unleashed med flies in

858
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: response in retaliation against all this spraying, which doesn't make

859
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: any sense because that would only mean they'd have to

860
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: spray more. You know, No, that's not They didn't really

861
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: think it through, but I think that they eventually said,

862
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't think this is real. I think this was

863
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: a hoax letter. But we also can't explain the concentration

864
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: of some of these outbreaks, and it perhaps it may

865
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: have been intentional, who knows. Wow, yeah, eco terrorism. Yeah,

866
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: that's pretty surprising. But the idea that the first one though,

867
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: was just completely accidental. It was one bad piece of

868
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: fruit that one traveler, but supposedly I couldn't find like, uh,

869
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: mango zero that started it. And then I looked around

870
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: a bunch, but I couldn't find like verification on that.

871
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: Interesting though, Um but yeah, Hawaii he's really big on

872
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: that too. And then, um, I don't know if you remember,

873
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: but last year I think in May of two dozen fifteen,

874
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp caused a huge stink he and Amber heard

875
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: opening his mouth or remember heard where? Um like they

876
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: were in Australia for I think a premiere of one

877
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: of those pirates of the Caribbean things. And um like

878
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: they just brought their dogs with them on a private

879
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: show about sending them to quarantine. A huge stink and

880
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: rightfully so like just the arrogance and Amber heard is

881
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: Amber heard? You know? Like I think both of them

882
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: are just like, we don't have to do it. We'll

883
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: just bring the dogs. Who cares? Who cares about the

884
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: stupid quarantine law. This continent is just an island. Do

885
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: remember that? It's uh what do they call that? Privilege? Yes, entitlement? Um,

886
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: we just shamed them. Well, good man, Johnny Depp doesn't

887
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: listen to this. Ah, I think you're right. Uh finally

888
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: already said finally. Uh, cultural artifacts are regulated, although fine

889
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: art supposedly is not subject to tariffs, Is that right?

890
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: Duty No, they're big into cultural artifacts because um, so

891
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: much of it is looted. I said, I should say

892
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 1: illegitimately looted. All those things are looted. Um, but ice

893
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: apparently immigrations and Customs enforcement is big in cultural artifacts repatriation,

894
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: And there's a difference between ICE and customs and border

895
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: patrol or border protection. Apparently, Customs and Border protection UM

896
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: staffs the borders. They protect the borders, and then ICE,

897
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: Immigrations and Customs enforcement carries out law enforcement that has

898
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: to do with customs and immigration within the United States.

899
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: So once you make it through, once you make it

900
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: past customs and Border protection, you still have to deal

901
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: with ICE coming and finding, like kicking down your door

902
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: and being like, give us back that Mesopotamian tablet and

903
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: they say who are you and they say, we're Ice. Yeah. Yeah,

904
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: it's played by the rock I imagine the guy from

905
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: The Shield, the bald dude. Yeah, I never saw that.

906
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: I heard it was good though, great show. Yeah, yeah,

907
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: it was definitely UM overshadowed by The Wire because they

908
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: both came out at about the same time. It's not

909
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: a fair comparison. They're just two different shows. But it

910
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: was nuts man like. There were several episodes that were

911
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: like episode for the first season of True Detective, just

912
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: insane from beginning to end. You know, Yeah, I think

913
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: I realized after our talk when I said, I didn't

914
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: watch um was it NYPD Blue? I think Law and Order.

915
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: I have a diversion to coop shows. Oh yeah, I

916
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: think so. Like I watched The Wire and I watched

917
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: Hill Street Blues in the eighties. I never watched that.

918
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 1: Oh I love that show. Uh, which is funny because

919
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a kit chow for twelve year old kids. Uh.

920
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: And I don't think I've watched a whole lot of

921
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: Like I watched Dexter some but that wasn't exactly It's

922
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 1: more of a serial killer show than a cop show,

923
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: and it got really forensic show man off the rails

924
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: is yeah, but yeah, I don't watch a lot of

925
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: cops shows. Huh. I did watch True Detective season one.

926
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: That kind of counts off the rails too. What for

927
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: season two? For season one, like the last couple of episode, Yeah,

928
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: it was kind of a let down. Yeah, whatever, it

929
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: went on the rails. How about that? It's TV. It's

930
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: not important and we can say that because we had

931
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: a TV show. Yeah, it really didn't change our lives

932
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: in any way. You got anything else? Nope. So that's customs.

933
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: If you want to know more about it, there's plenty

934
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: more to know. You can tape that word into the

935
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: search bar how stuff works dot com. And since I

936
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: said search part, it's time for listener, ma'am. I'm gonna

937
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: say this is something to open all of our eyes. Hey, guys,

938
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: as a Canadian, I was happy to spend one long

939
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: walk recently listening to the mysterious feet washing up on

940
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: the shores of BC. British Columbia. You said that they

941
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: have a shockingly large number of missing persons cases. And

942
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: while that's true, you guys express surprise and throughout a

943
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: few humorous suggestions on why. But there's one concrete factor

944
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: that really contributes to the high rate of missing individuals.

945
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: It doesn't get a lot of airtime internationally, but only

946
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: recently became newsworthy within Canada even uh disappearance and murder

947
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: of Native and Indigenous women who live in the province.

948
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: Have you heard of this? Yeah, A couple of people

949
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: emailed them right after that came out. Yeah, very sad,

950
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: she said. No one likes to talk about it. It

951
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,959
Speaker 1: seems one our last Prime minister even straight up said

952
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: an interview that missing and murdered Native women were not

953
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: a priority for the government. Uh. I don't know. As

954
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: far as I can see, the why is pretty clear.

955
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: It's happening, and it's allowed to happen because of sexism

956
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: and more importantly racism. You two are really great at

957
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: making sure you challenge sexism whenever you can, and I

958
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: commend you for that. I thought it was a missed

959
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: opportunity though, to discuss racism uh and open it up

960
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: to a similar discourse UM. And I emailed her back

961
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I didn't know about this

962
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: to we totally would have. Thank you so much for

963
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: continuing to do the show. When people ask why I

964
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: love it so much, I simply tell them that your

965
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: camaraderie and ease makes me feel like I know you both.

966
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: It's always fun to listen to things explained by your friends,

967
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: and that is Emily Owens in Kuala Lampur, but of Montreal,

968
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: of Montreal, Canadia, and she h. By the way, there's

969
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: follow up on this, an article from Media smarts UM

970
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: called media portrayals. Well this is the r oh at

971
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: least just google um, Media smarts and missing and Murdered

972
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: Aboriginal Women. And then she said there's also a great

973
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: documentary called Highway of tears, but heads up will make

974
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: you feel crappy for days. Let's just do one on that. Yeah,

975
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: we should. She didn't say crappy either, she said cretty. Yeah,

976
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: she'sai cretty yeah. Yeah, that's it. Okay, Well, thanks a lot, Emily.

977
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: We appreciate that, and keep an ear out for an

978
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: episode on that sometime down the road. Touch Uh. If

979
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: you want to get in touch with us, you can

980
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,480
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981
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,680
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982
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,000
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983
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984
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,800
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985
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,480
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988
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