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Speaker 1: Our Jane Slater was there for another nationally televised disappointment.

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Speaker 1: She's got the latest on what Cowboys owner Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: List of job casualties. So what exactly is Woody Johnson's plan?

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Speaker 1: Jenny Battista and Ian rappaport, I am Tom Pelisero. Eleven

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the why first, General Manager Joe Douglas,

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Speaker 7: Let me get out of here and work my magic

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Speaker 7: There's no way he cannot be around there anymore.

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Speaker 9: You've never been a fan of making coaching changes during

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Speaker 10: Well, I uh have made a change, and I've never

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Speaker 10: Well, that's not so old that lost the locker room.

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Speaker 10: How do you lose a team You've misplaced.

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Speaker 2: It was part of a broader plan. Is welcome our Jane.

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Speaker 2: There, this is a different team, Jane.

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Speaker 1: This is a team that won twelve games each of

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Speaker 12: I mean, Tom, this thing is so nuanced, and you

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Speaker 12: This isn't all on Mike McCarthy. And I think that

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Speaker 12: The Dak Prescott contract, they sort of sat on that

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Speaker 12: He waited on that deal, paid him top of the

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Speaker 5: Then the injuries.

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Speaker 12: It seems like the Cowboys are heading in a different direction.

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Speaker 12: They just seem to not have the stomach to try

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Speaker 12: What sort of king's ransom could we get him at

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Speaker 12: But going back to what you said, they made that

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Speaker 12: Tom they have decided they were going to stay with

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Speaker 12: Not as likely. And then we're still waiting to hear

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Speaker 1: Not to mention all pro corner dron Bland has not

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Speaker 1: actually going to happen. Jane Slater, great stuff, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. You mentioned the winless at home. It's not

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Speaker 1: the playoff game there last year against the Packers that

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Speaker 11: You know, over the last you've heard me say this,

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Speaker 11: So we haven't been to the championship playoff game, we

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Speaker 1: Man, this was in many ways the ultimate Jerry Jones

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Speaker 2: It didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: It was about Dak's contract, it was about Ceedee Lamb's contract.

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Speaker 1: All of which is to say, Jerry Jones is right.

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Speaker 1: And the way that they went through this entire offseason,

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Speaker 6: Well, Jana said a few I think interesting things. First

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's gonna be a couple of ways to

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Speaker 3: next year to try to not have this whole disaster

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Speaker 3: happen again. Obviously we will see next offseason.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're Michaeh Parsons and you're sitting

442
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Speaker 1: there going, well, you know, Miles Garrett's going to get

443
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Speaker 1: a new contract. Other pass rushers are going to get paid.

444
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Speaker 1: I'll just wait and be the first forty million dollar guy.

445
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Speaker 1: Or do the Cowboys to your pointing, and actually get

446
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: out there and try to set the market rather than

447
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Speaker 1: waiting for all those leaves to fall in all the

448
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Speaker 1: other metaphors, we shall see, and we shall see who

449
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Speaker 1: is coaching that team by the time that rolls around.

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Speaker 1: Coming up after this, here's a pass rusher who is

451
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Speaker 1: trying to get toward a pay day. Here, Nick Benito,

452
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Speaker 1: strong enough to pull down Lamar Jackson by his wrist,

453
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Speaker 1: quick enough to blast through a tackle, and smart enough

454
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Speaker 1: to come on the Insiders. He joins us to talk

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Speaker 1: about those red opera gos next on the Insiders.

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Speaker 13: Never get a four man rush, Cousins will be hit

457
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Speaker 13: from behind.

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Speaker 2: It down, he goes, And that is Nick Benito. Nick

459
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Speaker 2: Benito with the sack.

460
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Speaker 4: He came into the game with seven.

461
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Speaker 8: One of the hottest pass rushers in the league.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you do not want to see Nick Benito

463
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Speaker 1: coming at you. If you're a quarterback, you also don't

464
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Speaker 1: want to not see him, which appeared to be the

465
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Speaker 1: case right there with Kirk Cousins. We're happy to see

466
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Speaker 1: him Nick Benito right here on the Insiders with me,

467
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Speaker 1: Tom Peliicero as well as Judy Batista. Nick, there's been

468
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in your three years in Denver.

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Speaker 4: How about this.

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Speaker 2: We're in the middle of November. We're talking about you

471
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Speaker 2: guys winning games, you getting sacks. It's gonna be a

472
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Speaker 2: good time to be alive in Denver.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean thousand saying, you know, obviously it's been

474
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Speaker 14: a long Durney I feel like, but you know, we're

475
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Speaker 14: doing a good job right now. Coaches is always putting

476
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 14: a good game plan for us, you know, offensively and defensively,

477
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Speaker 14: special teams.

478
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Speaker 15: Yeah, we're just doing a good job. I'm just competing

479
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 15: every week.

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Speaker 6: So all right, Nick, you're coming off a two sack game.

481
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Speaker 6: You're up to nine sacks, so you've already beat last

482
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Speaker 6: season's total. I believe your next sack, because it would

483
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Speaker 6: be ten would break a six year drought of having

484
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Speaker 6: a double digit sack guy in Denver, which is kind

485
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Speaker 6: of hard to believe. But tell us what's working for

486
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Speaker 6: you this season?

487
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, a collection of things.

488
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 15: You know. Obviously, it starts with the coaching staff.

489
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Speaker 14: They're always giving us a good game plan every week,

490
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 14: making sure that you know, we're going to have the

491
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Speaker 14: best success to go out there and make plays. And

492
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Speaker 14: then on top of that, you know, the guys that

493
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Speaker 14: I'm rushing with, you know, whether Zach Allen, you know,

494
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Speaker 14: John Franklin, Meyers, John the Cooper, and even the guys

495
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Speaker 14: that come off the bench, you know that they just

496
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Speaker 14: do a good job of rushing well together. And obviously

497
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 14: the back end that we have makes it easy too.

498
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Speaker 14: So just a collective effort.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the coaching staff. You go back to last

500
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Speaker 1: year and early in the season. I don't mean to

501
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: remind you about it, but there was that you know

502
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: game where the Dolphins had like seventy points against you.

503
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk about you need to change

504
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Speaker 1: things on defense, you need to replace fans Joseph, You

505
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: guys have gotten so much better, and it happened pretty

506
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: quickly last season. From that point, what's allowed you guys

507
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: to fully wrap your arms around this scheme and what

508
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: is Vance doing on a weekly basis to make sure

509
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Speaker 1: you're in the right position.

510
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, you know that game, you know, it happened,

511
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 14: and obviously we looked at it as players, and you know,

512
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 14: we got to do more for BJ at.

513
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Speaker 15: That point, you know, he was putting this in great petitions.

514
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Speaker 14: That we had to play with better effort and better

515
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 14: integrity and stuff like that.

516
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Speaker 15: So you know, hats off to him.

517
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Speaker 14: Kept going, you know, he kept coaching and you know

518
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 14: on blocked out dollars had noise and obviously we're having

519
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 14: a lot of success right now. So you know, he's

520
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 14: just a great coach to be around, great coach to

521
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 14: have always having a part of the mindset.

522
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Speaker 6: So you know that his name is climbing up the

523
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 6: ranks for head coaching candidates. Again, he's been a head

524
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Speaker 6: coach in the past. How would you feel about that

525
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 6: if he starts getting some interviews for head coaching.

526
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Speaker 14: Jobs, Presley, I'd be pretty sad, But I mean, knowing

527
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 14: that you know he can go out there and have

528
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 14: more for himself would definitely make me happy and a

529
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Speaker 14: lot I know a lot of.

530
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Speaker 15: Other guys too.

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Speaker 14: Just knowing that he can have those type of opportunities

532
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Speaker 14: and his name is coming up in conversations like that,

533
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Speaker 14: you know, I'll be really happy for him for sure.

534
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: All Right, So look to the other side of the ball,

535
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: because you know, the past couple of years Russell Wilson

536
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: had been the quarterback there, there was obviously a change.

537
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 2: You never know when a rookie's coming in, like a

538
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: bow knicks.

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Speaker 1: This guy going to hit the ground running. Are we

540
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: going to go through a lot of bumps? He seems

541
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Speaker 1: to be on a weekly basis getting better and better,

542
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Even so, I'm going back in training camp

543
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: and he was going up against the starting defense. What

544
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: what stands out about you to you about that guy

545
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: and the type of football he's playing right now?

546
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Speaker 14: Yeah, Man, since day one, like when Bose come in,

547
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 14: he's been a pro just handling things the right way,

548
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 14: coming in the right way, and doing things the right way,

549
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 14: you know, every day, and you know that's kind of

550
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 14: what we see from him. And then it's going on

551
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Speaker 14: the field. I mean, he's a guy that you know,

552
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Speaker 14: he can do it all in my opinion, you know,

553
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 14: whether it's you know, commanding the offense, you know, running

554
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 14: the ball, you know, passing the ball down the field,

555
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 14: he just brings a lot to the game and you

556
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 14: can tell it me in some for him every time

557
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 14: he steps on the field. So just having a guy

558
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 14: like that and on the offensive side, you know, leading

559
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 14: the way, it's really big for us.

560
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Speaker 4: All right.

561
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Speaker 6: Take us behind the curtain a little bit with Sean Payton,

562
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 6: because we see him in public and you see him

563
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 6: on the sidelines. He's pretty demonstrative from our perspective. What

564
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 6: is he like behind the scenes with you guys and

565
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 6: what has he been doing with this team in the

566
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Speaker 6: years that he has been there that has turned things

567
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Speaker 6: around in Denver?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, you know, he has a culture that

569
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 14: he came and you know try to establish, you know,

570
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 14: as soon as he got there. You know, guys, you

571
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 14: know we all bought in. You know, we all know

572
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 14: what you know he's trying to do here. And at

573
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 14: the end of the day, it's just win games. And

574
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 14: you know we've been taking it week by week and

575
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 14: you know, just doing the things that he's asking us

576
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 14: to do and just.

577
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 15: Having that tough time of mentality.

578
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Speaker 14: You got to have that to play for him, and

579
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Speaker 14: I feel like he's been doing a really good job

580
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 14: just getting the best out of every place.

581
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Speaker 1: So so it's great to be sitting here. You know,

582
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: week or so before Thanksgiving. You're you're in it, but

583
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: you got to keep proving it right every week. You

584
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: got to keep going and stacking those wins to be

585
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: able to get back into the playoffs, which I know

586
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: all the Broncos fans watching or hoping you guys are

587
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: going to be able to do this season. Tell me

588
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: about a matchup like this next week in Las Vegas.

589
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: The Raiders are struggling, but this is Broncos Raiders, man, Like, this.

590
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 2: Is old school football. What do you anticipating? What do

591
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: you guys got to get done?

592
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 15: Well, I know they won't lay down for sure.

593
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 14: I mean they have great players over there too, obviously,

594
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 14: guys like Crosby you know, on that and that side,

595
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 14: you know, defensively and just you know a lot of

596
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 14: the playmakers that they have on offense, they're not gonna

597
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 14: let it. Let's just come in there and beat them,

598
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 14: start me and it's gonna be a really big home

599
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 14: game for him. I know it's gonna be really big,

600
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 14: so we got to come in there ready to play

601
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 14: or we're gonna get beast.

602
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 15: So it's gonna be a good game for sure.

603
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: All right, Nick, Well, thanks a lot for taking the time. Man,

604
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: great to see you guys rolling. Keep it going, man,

605
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: please come back again.

606
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 15: All right, so I appreciate you guys.

607
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: Texans Social team just handing out els, els from the ceiling,

608
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: elves of all the kind You thought it was bad

609
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: enough that the sky was literally falling, the roof was

610
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: caving in the Cowboys yesterday, No it was not.

611
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: The Texans rubbed it in. Not very nice. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: Game Flow, presented by Progressive.

613
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: Insurance Brian Baldinger.

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00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for joining me. So let's get

615
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: right to it.

616
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: Take me inside the game flow from last night.

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00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: What turned it?

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Speaker 8: So here's what happened in You know, the Cowboys were

619
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Speaker 8: hanging in there fourth twelve minutes ago, second and six,

620
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Speaker 8: They've got the ball to their forty yard line and

621
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Speaker 8: Derek Barnett came screaming off the corner against the rookie

622
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 8: left tackle Tyler Goyton, and he got the ball out

623
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Speaker 8: of Cooper rushed his hands and then Dydon picked it

624
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 8: up and then he got smashed by Jalen Petrie. And

625
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 8: then Derek Barnett picked it up, went twenty eight yards

626
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 8: for a touchdown, and suddenly the score went from twenty

627
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 8: to ten Dallas hanging in there to the Texans going

628
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 8: up twenty seven to ten, making it a three score game,

629
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Speaker 8: and was basically Katie bar the door. It was over.

630
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 8: That was the game flow play of the game that

631
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 8: turned that game around. And for all offensive linemen, I know,

632
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 8: we want to pick that ball up. We want to

633
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Speaker 8: be an athlete, we want to be in the stat sheet,

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Speaker 8: and we want the ball to tuch. We want to

635
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 8: go the distance. We played with three practice it, but

636
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 8: we really don't know how to protect the ball. And

637
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 8: Jalen Petrie came and just popped it like he popped

638
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 8: the balloon. The ball bounced out. They actually forced two

639
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 8: fumbles and Barnett picked it up, went twenty eight yard.

640
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 8: That game got turned around in one play.

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00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: God that moment when Tyler Guy thought he was taking

642
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: it to the crib.

643
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: Only to get the root away getting from Jalen Petrie.

644
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Speaker 3: Not nice, but sometimes reality, Buddy Baldi thank you very

645
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: much for hanging out with us.

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00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: As always, Judy, take it away.

647
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 6: Well, more tough times in the NFC East than New

648
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 6: York Giants bowed to what felt like the inevitable yesterday,

649
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 6: benching starting quarterback Daniel Jones. They will go forward with

650
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 6: Tommy DeVito as the starting quarterback.

651
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: Drew Locke will back him up.

652
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Speaker 6: So Daniel Jones is all the way down to the

653
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Speaker 6: third quarterback, and now Mark Ross is going to join me. Mark,

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Speaker 6: you know this franchise as well as anybody. Give me

655
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Speaker 6: your thoughts on this decision.

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00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 7: Well, Dudy, as you mentioned, it was a long time coming,

657
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 7: short time coming for Daniel Jones, three years, two years,

658
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 7: six years, whatever it was. You just felt eventually it

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Speaker 7: was going to happen. The surprise was that jew Lock

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Speaker 7: was A'N certed there into it. I know he had

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Speaker 7: the little stint at the end of the game a

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Speaker 7: few weeks ago, but I really thought, Okay, well, we've

663
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Speaker 7: gave this guy five million dollars guaranteed. Let's get Drew

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Speaker 7: Locke in there and see what he can do. So,

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Speaker 7: either Drew Locke is that bad in practice or are

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Speaker 7: they just trying to as you know, Judy, get a

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00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 7: little magic with Tommy Cutlets again, because you know those

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Speaker 7: memes are in full effect already with Tommy Cutlets making

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Speaker 7: his start there at home. But you know, for the

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Speaker 7: Giants organization, it's more of okay, where do they go

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Speaker 7: from here? And of course this is just a short

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Speaker 7: term fix, just getting them through the end of the season,

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Speaker 7: but for next season, having a high draft pick and

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Speaker 7: taking a quarterback in will it be Brian Dabole and

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Speaker 7: Joe Shane Who are the ones making that decision? And

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Speaker 7: you have to say, as a Giants fan, well, they

677
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Speaker 7: are the ones that made these decisions that want to

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Speaker 7: keep Daniel Jones and then we're going to sign Drew Locke,

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Speaker 7: So do you really trust that brain trust to really

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Speaker 7: make that decision. So those are a lot more questions

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Speaker 7: that need to be answered, and we're going to I'm sure,

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Speaker 7: talk a lot about it leading up to the draft

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Speaker 7: on their Judy.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be a very interesting off season. Remember,

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Speaker 6: owner John Marras said he would not make a change

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Speaker 6: during the season and he was not likely to make

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Speaker 6: one after the season. We will see if that holds up.

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Speaker 6: Mark Ross, thank you very much. And when we return,

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Speaker 6: we're going to catch up with our friend Jeffrey Chedea

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Speaker 6: to talk about everything that happened in Week eleven, including

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Speaker 6: the Kansas City Chiefs suffering their first loss at the season. Well,

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Speaker 6: Josh Allen had really good reason to flex right there,

693
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Speaker 6: because that was right after the fourth and two touchdown

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Speaker 6: run maybe the play of the season, I believe Jim

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00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 6: Nantz called it the play of the season in what

696
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 6: might be the game of the season, the Bills thirty

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00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 6: to twenty one win over the Chiefs. And now it's

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Speaker 6: time for ask the aces presented by Ace Hardware. There's

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Speaker 6: Ian and there is our age Jeffrey Chedea, who has

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Speaker 6: his first Read column up nfl dot com slash First Read. Jeffrey,

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Speaker 6: let's start with your takeaways from week eleven that we're

702
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 6: not supposed to overreact to, including the Chiefs first loss.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Judy, I know the Chiefs got that first loss,

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00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 13: and Buffalo's feeling really good, and for my money, Buffalo

705
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Speaker 13: is the best team in the AFC right now. But

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Speaker 13: we all know how this story plays out. Once the

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Speaker 13: Chiefs get into January, it's going to be hard to

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Speaker 13: defeat them. I like Buffalo's mentality, but even if the

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Speaker 13: Chiefs don't get that top seat, we saw last year

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Speaker 13: what they can do with going the hard way. They

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00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 13: went to Buffalo and one they went to Baltimore and one.

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Speaker 13: I have to feel like Buffalo knows and Josh Allen

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Speaker 13: even said it, We're probably gonna see these guys again

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Speaker 13: and we're gonna have to beat them again to do it.

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Speaker 13: So I'm sticking with Kansas City being okay with it

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Speaker 13: without that buy.

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Speaker 3: I understand I'm not supposed to overreact to this, but

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Speaker 3: what about Lamar losing to the Steelers again one in

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Speaker 3: four as the starter. Surely that's something I can overreact to.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you could, but I would say one in four

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Speaker 13: is an ugly number for him.

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Speaker 4: But this was a team loss. He didn't play great.

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Speaker 4: But you look at this game the way it played.

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Speaker 13: Out, justin Tucker, normally reliable kicker, is again having difficulties

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00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 13: making kicks. He missed two in that contest. They had

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00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 13: three turnovers. You look at this team that had six

727
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Speaker 13: coming into the game, and really, where was Derek Henry

728
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 13: when they needed him most? Only thirteen carries that's on

729
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 13: Todd Muncken. So I know Lamar Jackson is going to

730
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 13: eat this one because of that record.

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Speaker 4: But my god, they got to help the guy out.

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Speaker 4: I think he'll get more help down the road.

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Speaker 6: Jeffrey, the Falcons got walloped by the Broncos last weekend.

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Speaker 6: They're a little bit falling to earth. Should be the

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Speaker 6: overreacting to that.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you take a loss to the Saints and then

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Speaker 13: you get killed by the Denver Broncos on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: That's not a good look for a team that had

739
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Speaker 4: been ruling.

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Speaker 13: But again, I think that aside from the pass rush,

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Speaker 13: they need to be able to pressure the quarterback better

742
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Speaker 13: and play better defense. I still like the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 13: for one key reason. They still play in the NFC South.

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Speaker 13: I don't see the Saints catching them. The Buccaneers have

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00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 13: an easier schedule, but they've still got some injury problems.

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Speaker 4: This team is four and one in the.

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Speaker 13: Division right now, and they've got some easy games coming

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Speaker 13: up here with Vegas, New York Giants in Carolina.

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Speaker 4: So I think Atlanta's going to be okay in the end.

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Speaker 3: One of the major developments of this past week it

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Speaker 3: was Anthony Richardson, after two games of being benched, is

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00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 3: now one hundred percent cured.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, you know, it was great to see it.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy for the young man.

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Speaker 13: I hated to see him have to go this route

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Speaker 13: to get back into action.

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Speaker 4: But I'm still going to be.

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Speaker 13: Very patient with this when I've learned my lesson betting

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00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 13: on Caleb Williams. I saw all this played out. He's

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00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 13: been playing the whole year. Anthony Richardson was bench for

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Speaker 13: a reason. He got back into that starting lineup because

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Speaker 13: Joe Flacco could have getten done. And again, I thought,

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Speaker 13: this is a guy who threw three hundred and ninety

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Speaker 13: three passes in college. He's played eleven games as a pro.

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Speaker 13: He needs more time to develop. I'm glad he's getting

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Speaker 13: those reps now, but I'm still not going to.

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Speaker 4: Believe he's all the way back now.

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Speaker 13: He's just playing and played well for one game.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 6: It is no secret that Jayden Daniels has certainly cooled

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Speaker 6: off since he suffered that rib injury, and along with him,

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Speaker 6: the arrest of the Commander's offense has really cooled off.

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Speaker 13: Overreacting it has and look, it's this is part of

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Speaker 13: having a rookie quarterback. Cliff Kingsbury came in there with

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Speaker 13: a great plan for him, and he's done a great

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Speaker 13: job of getting Jane Daniels going.

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Speaker 4: But this offense was really humming when their run game

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Speaker 4: was going.

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Speaker 13: And they only had one hundred and fifty three yards

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Speaker 13: total against Pittsburgh and Philadelphia and their last two losses. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: I get that they're averaging about one hundred yards less

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Speaker 13: of offense over the last couple of games and their

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Speaker 13: scoring average has fallen about seven points in those two games.

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Speaker 13: But again, they get that run game going, they're going

785
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 13: to be better. And you also don't know how much

786
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 13: that rib injury Jane Daniels had it earlier this season

787
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 13: is affecting him. But they're going to play some some

788
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 13: weak defenses coming up here, Dallas twice, Tennessee twice. They

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00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 13: will get it rolling again as well.

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Speaker 6: Jeffrey, thank you, and don't forget. You can read his

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Speaker 6: first read column NFL dot Com slash First Read. When

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Speaker 6: we return, we are going to look ahead finally to

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Speaker 6: Thursday Night of Football. We're going to get a next

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Speaker 6: gen staff preview from our friend Sam Schwarztein. Some pretty

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Speaker 6: good pass rushers in this game, Miles Garrett and TJ.

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Speaker 5: Watt Browns versus.

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Speaker 1: Steelers Thursday Night Football on Prime as the AFC's oldest rivalry.

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Speaker 2: It's TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt and the Pittsburgh Steelers against Miles Garrett and the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns this Thursday, eight fifteen pm Eastern Time only

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Speaker 1: on Prime Video. Let's bring in Sam Schwarztein Prime Video

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, Football's analytics expert to use next gen stats

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Speaker 1: to preview this matchup. Sam, it is all about Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson right now in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: What's working.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, he's making the hard stuff look easy on completion

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00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 16: probability under fifty percent, So the hardest throws in the NFL,

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Speaker 16: he's completing them at a high rate. And that's what's

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Speaker 16: really driving this team. He has zero point three to

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Speaker 16: one epa per dropback on those throws, and it's his

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Speaker 16: ability to place the ball to where only his receiver

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Speaker 16: can get it. We hear all about these moonshot throws

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00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 16: and next gen stats. The team defines that as throws

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Speaker 16: a takeover two and a half seconds in the air,

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Speaker 16: he's really letting the receiver get underneath the ball, and

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Speaker 16: that's where a lot of their offenses generated. Last week.

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Speaker 16: They didn't have as much success with those go balls,

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Speaker 16: so we saw a dwindle. So they're playing that high

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00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 16: variance game. And Russell Wilson, he's found that old version

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Speaker 16: of himself. Let them run the ball and throw a

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Speaker 16: deep fine George Pickens down the field.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes hard with defensive players on bad teams to tail

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Speaker 1: just by watching the game, what they're really doing, what

824
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: level they're playing at. With Miles Garrett, what are the

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00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: numbers tell us? But the level he's playing at, albeit

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Speaker 1: on a pretty rough Browns team.

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Speaker 16: I mean, that's why God gave us analytics, right, so

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Speaker 16: we can tell a better story. And even during losses,

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Speaker 16: Miles Garrett is playing at an elite level, specifically because

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Speaker 16: of how fast he can apply pressure to quarterbacks. He

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Speaker 16: leaves the NFL in quick pressures, that's pressures under two

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Speaker 16: and a half seconds, and he's doing it from his

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00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 16: get off speed. We target around point sixty seven seconds

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Speaker 16: it takes to cross the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: We call that a good jump.

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Speaker 16: You're able to keep the snap user athleticism, and that's

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Speaker 16: exactly how fast Miles Garrett is getting off the ball.

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Speaker 16: He's getting point seven, which is the second fastest in

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Speaker 16: the NFL, and he's merely getting a good jump on.

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Speaker 4: Every single snap. One of the best in the NFL. Still.

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Speaker 1: So then on the other side of this, obviously you've

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Speaker 1: got TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt.

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Speaker 1: You've also got Alex high Smith, who has been banged

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Speaker 1: up here. Tell me about that pass rushing doing what

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Speaker 1: they're also what they're missing when they don't have high

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00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: Smith on the field.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, with high Smith off the field likely for this game,

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Speaker 16: second week in a row, Nick Herbig is going to

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Speaker 16: be the one that has to step up.

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Speaker 2: TJ.

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Speaker 16: Watt actually isn't having his best year from a pass

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00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 16: rush perspective, but that's where Herbig has stepped up. He

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00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 16: is a nineteen percent pressure rate this season that's fifth

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Speaker 16: among edge rushers and it's actually the best on this

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00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 16: Steelers team, a Steelers defense that has Cam Hayward to

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Speaker 16: go along with TJ.

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Speaker 4: Watt and high Smith.

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Speaker 16: So you'll see her Big line up over the right

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Speaker 16: or the left tackle opposite of where TJ. Watch lined up,

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Speaker 16: and he's going to use speed a spin move you

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00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 16: saw on that last play, as well as power to

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Speaker 16: get to the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He's a guy that they really need to step up.

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Speaker 16: I mean, for all gms out there, look for Wisconsin

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Speaker 16: linebackers come out of the draft, because there's two great

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Speaker 16: ones on the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Sam, Before we let you go, also want to congratulate

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Speaker 1: you on the award. Is the Primes Breakthrough Defensive Alerts

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Speaker 1: feature won the Next Best Things in Tech award changing

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Speaker 1: out we see the game. This is pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 16: The whole team super excited, everyone from our CVML team

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Speaker 16: to our production team here. It's really really fun time

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Speaker 16: Stats to give you a different broadcast view.

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Speaker 1: You can watch Sam and his award winning team every

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Speaker 1: week Thursday Night Football's Prime Vision with Next Gen Stats.

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Speaker 2: Alternate stream. Thursday Night's coverage of the.

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Speaker 1: Steelers at Browns on Prime Video and NFL Plus begins

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Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern with t NF Tonight, Sam, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. Pepsi zero Sugar Rookie of the Week nominees

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Speaker 1: includes Jamie Daniels. No, actually for once, it does not

884
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Speaker 1: Maybe a chance for Drake may Bo Nicks. Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: is in there, Lad McConkey, I about a little Cameron

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Speaker 1: Kitchens for you. You can vote now NFL dot com

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Speaker 1: Slash Rookies Taysom Hill. Uh, definitely not a rookie. He

888
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Speaker 1: was like twenty eight when he came into the league.

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00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: Still running all over the place, lining up literally all

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Speaker 1: over the field. Anybody who has him in fantasy knows

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Speaker 1: that he does that. Of course, in fact, one place

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Speaker 1: he lined up this past week my bench, costing me

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Speaker 1: a game.

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Speaker 2: Look at the snaps.

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Speaker 1: This is not something that you see a whole lot

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Speaker 1: in the modern era. As we welcome you back to

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Speaker 1: the Insiders presented by Progressive Insurance, Taysom Hill now is

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Speaker 1: a great stat one of three players in NFL history

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Speaker 1: with twenty five rush touchdowns, ten past touchdowns and ten

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Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: I know Ian's got no chance. Judy, can you name

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Speaker 2: one of the other two?

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Speaker 5: I think I can? The great Frank Gifford.

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Frank Gifford. There it is. It's a

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Speaker 2: good one. Can this a guy? I had never heard

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Speaker 2: about this?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 2: Do you have a second? How about Bob Horschenmeier for

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Speaker 2: the Lions.

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Speaker 16: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Okay, see set up and they nails the guys. He

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Speaker 2: went to Navy and Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so impressed with Judy too. And now no

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Speaker 1: points for anyone doing Come on, see you tomorrow.