Speaker 1: Let me tell you something you probably already know.
Speaker 2: If you got a job and you work with black
Speaker 2: people like this, and it's specifically a like urban born
Speaker 2: black person even they country.
Speaker 1: Let me not let me play games with you.
Speaker 2: There is a coworker which might be you, but there's
Speaker 2: a coworker that is seconds away from being cussed out.
Speaker 2: It's somebody at your job that break all kinds of
Speaker 2: rules like colde rules that get up under that black
Speaker 2: person's skin.
Speaker 1: Is so bad.
Speaker 2: But because we have practiced the art of double consciousness,
Speaker 2: which I've brought up before, it to web d voice
Speaker 2: thing to where we have to be fluent in the
Speaker 2: king's tongue, know how to function. Basically, you got to
Speaker 2: know how to talk among white people what you guys
Speaker 2: would call professional speech. But it's a little deeper than that.
Speaker 1: For us. It's not just professional to survive.
Speaker 2: But but right up under the surface, somebody is almost
Speaker 2: about to get packed out. I'm telling you that right now.
Speaker 2: But we just know how to keep it professional. But
Speaker 2: there's a hood inside of us that no matter what
Speaker 2: you put on us or in our situations, that's part
Speaker 2: of keeping it. G Two, we understand the situation. It
Speaker 2: might be Drake popping in their headphones while they sitting
Speaker 2: at the cubicle. It's Nipsy and Little Dirk right now
Speaker 2: playing in that person's headphones at that call center, just
Speaker 2: keeping it super professional. And I tell you, there's been
Speaker 2: plenty of times that that black person has found the
Speaker 2: other Latino person or the other Filipino person, or the
Speaker 2: other black person in y'all's office meetings, and y'allun locked
Speaker 2: eyes at each.
Speaker 1: Other, rolled y'all eyes because.
Speaker 2: You already know, like y'all haven't already got answers and
Speaker 2: thoughts about what's going on right now, And y'all just like, mmm,
Speaker 2: I may I should put my foot so far up,
Speaker 2: but you but you're professional.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 2: Hey, look, you and the other hood folks that already
Speaker 2: discussed licks that you might be able to hit on
Speaker 2: this place, but you know how to keep a gin
Speaker 2: and keep a professional.
Speaker 1: Y'all. Just giggle, y'all. You know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: is what it is.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, I can pretty much say
Speaker 2: with a lot of certainty that whatever experience you're experiencing
Speaker 2: of black folks, people of color color you know in
Speaker 2: the hood, or people from the hood in your professional environment.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, we're toning it down. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you right now, there's you, baby. You ain't seen
Speaker 2: nothing yet because what's inside of us is very different
Speaker 2: than what you see. This is why I say coming
Speaker 2: from these areas actually gives you an advantage.
Speaker 1: It's a superpower.
Speaker 2: That's the whole concept of this shows the politics is like,
Speaker 2: we actually have an advantage because we've had to know
Speaker 2: how to survive in your world and in our world.
Speaker 2: As much as you think we don't you as a
Speaker 2: royal you maybe not. You listening, y'all get it. So
Speaker 2: you could take us out the hood, you put us
Speaker 2: in these nice houses, do whatever you want, but you
Speaker 2: know it. But you can't take the hood outside of us,
Speaker 2: and you get like we are what we are now.
Speaker 2: This is a saying from the eighties, like a little
Speaker 2: like a little bit before our time.
Speaker 1: And of course it's remarkably reductive.
Speaker 2: I know, it's not that simplistic, and it's actually a
Speaker 2: little bit insulting to us to think that, like we
Speaker 2: are not capable of metamorphosis and change. However, this is
Speaker 2: not the way for which I mean this. What I'm saying,
Speaker 2: is man, you was who you was for you got here.
Speaker 2: It's some jay Z lyrics, right. We know who we are,
Speaker 2: we know the things that made us what we are.
Speaker 2: We know what we value, and it's this code, you know,
Speaker 2: this g code that a lot of us live by.
Speaker 2: This even if you not a gangster, there's part of like,
Speaker 2: even if you don't gang bang, there's a part of
Speaker 2: that code that just exists inside of all of us
Speaker 2: because it's honor, it's integrity, it's loyalty, it's family, it's support,
Speaker 2: it's community. You know, there's these codes that we have
Speaker 2: that just you know, we kind of just need it
Speaker 2: for survival, you know what I'm saying. And it follows
Speaker 2: you everywhere you go, even when you move to those
Speaker 2: nice houses in South Orange County, it's California thing. Move
Speaker 2: out to the Inland Empire, you know that was the suburbs.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if you ever been through Fontana,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever been through San Bernardino
Speaker 2: rialto Calton, Like, you know, no, we made it what
Speaker 2: it is. You can't you could put us in these
Speaker 2: nice houses. You ever go to the Crenshaw District them
Speaker 2: it's nice houses. That's the hood because even though we
Speaker 2: take care of our lawns, make sure the property values
Speaker 2: stay nice.
Speaker 1: You listen, we are who we are. Part of me.
Speaker 2: Is why I think a lot of us really just
Speaker 2: understand Mexicans because no matter where they go, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be it's gonna be a taco stand outside, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a burrito truck somewhere around there, because they make
Speaker 2: it their own. You could take them out of Mexico,
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but you can't take Mexico.
Speaker 1: Out of them. Right and again, I understand this is reductive.
Speaker 2: But the environment, although plays a role, does not or
Speaker 2: should not erase our values. So you can take the
Speaker 2: homie out the hood, you can't take the hood out
Speaker 2: the hommy. You have no idea what I'm about to
Speaker 2: talk about, do you? Oh, unless you read the description
Speaker 2: of the show, which I don't think anyone does. I
Speaker 2: am trying to answer the question. It's Threads finally going
Speaker 2: to be the Twitter Killer Hood politics, y'all. All right, y'all,
Speaker 2: thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: We appreciate y'all pulling up. I'll owe you a couple
Speaker 2: cooler Zone plus shows that I need to complete, but
Speaker 2: just life be lifing, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 2: today I wanted to jump in here because I'm like,
Speaker 2: do something a little lighter because I'm I'm working on
Speaker 2: this one on the Supreme Court and Clarence Doland to
Speaker 2: them and how they just be moving so silent, and
Speaker 2: all the different things that just got passed as far
Speaker 2: as affirmative action, the Native American adoption thing, the Navajole
Speaker 2: water trands, stuff like, there's just so much that it's
Speaker 2: just so heavy that I figure I talk about something
Speaker 2: that's a little bit light, that's more about not so
Speaker 2: much politics, although it actually is pretty tied to politics,
Speaker 2: but the zeitgeist. You know what I'm saying, Not the Zeitgeist,
Speaker 2: but just the ze guys. Shout out to them, as
Speaker 2: Sophie calls them, the podfathers, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: dudes that put us on rogs our big hummies. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the social media hills and valleys.
Speaker 2: Now this one seems different now if you're you know,
Speaker 2: a sillennial or a geriatric millennial like I am, apparently
Speaker 2: where where like in between, Like I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 2: so much X although I'm so close to gen X,
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: But I lived a life.
Speaker 2: Mostly around and in the zone of millennials, but I
Speaker 2: had an analog childhood, you know what I'm saying, where
Speaker 2: basically like Gen X, dudes just feel so old to me,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, although they were just the upper grades, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's also important to understand that, like you know,
Speaker 2: these generation things, they're not scientific, there's nothing there.
Speaker 1: It's all marketing. They're not like real things.
Speaker 2: That being said, I come from a time where we
Speaker 2: saw the evolution of social media and going from a
Speaker 2: version of instant Messenger all the way to these platforms
Speaker 2: that we see now.
Speaker 1: We see them come, we see them go.
Speaker 2: And it's crazy why just us as a herd all
Speaker 2: moved to these next new things, right and because the
Speaker 2: Internet wasn't what it was then as it is now.
Speaker 2: That was a weird sentence. But follow me here. We
Speaker 2: ain't had an access to the CEOs like we did,
Speaker 2: like Tom. I still don't know what Tom actually looked like.
Speaker 2: Tom is from my space. Some of y'all may not
Speaker 2: remember what my space is. But follow me here. Tom
Speaker 2: had the same avy the whole time. Tom on the
Speaker 2: island somewhere that Avvy may not have actually been Tom. Like,
Speaker 2: we don't have no idea what Tom looked like. Kept
Speaker 2: it low. Tom ain't do the Mark Zuckerbird thing, you know,
Speaker 2: didn't do the Dorsey thing. Definitely not an Elon like Tom.
Speaker 2: That man cashed out and left. But uh, I remember
Speaker 2: when I was really young, like really young, I didn't
Speaker 2: even have one of these.
Speaker 1: We had things called black Planet.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: There was Friends the first, and then there was a
Speaker 2: Black Planet, which is essentially like a black MySpace.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I think the closest to that would help you to
Speaker 2: understand MySpace is it's more akin to a Facebook, and
Speaker 2: Facebook actually murdered MySpace, right, But I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Get to that.
Speaker 2: You created a profile, you could learn HTML and like
Speaker 2: pimp out your MySpace. You can make a little money
Speaker 2: on the low designing people's pages. We were literally flipping
Speaker 2: htmls right now. You got to think about this, We
Speaker 2: were flipping MySpace pages. These the same people, y'all, are
Speaker 2: y'all hearing me? These the same people that got their
Speaker 2: camera too close to their face when they do selfies.
Speaker 1: These are the same.
Speaker 2: People that can't figure out how to go live on
Speaker 2: TikTok like these it's they the same people, that's what's bonkers. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Each of these platforms have a grand opening. It's like
Speaker 2: it's it's a traditional storyline, a grand opening, and sometimes
Speaker 2: it just phases out from there right where it's like
Speaker 2: the story's going nowhere and it shuts down.
Speaker 1: Then it has But other ones that.
Speaker 2: Succeed have this like super High Rising and then this peak.
Speaker 2: And when they're on the peak, competitors try to come
Speaker 2: out and try to create platforms that are similar to
Speaker 2: try to get everybody off. And some of them work,
Speaker 2: some of them don't. But when you get an actual
Speaker 2: good competitor, what happens is what we all exist in
Speaker 2: now is that you are on multiple You have multiple
Speaker 2: social media pages, and traditionally the hope is to either
Speaker 2: be okay with that, but have you if you're the
Speaker 2: platform owner, spend more time on my page rather than
Speaker 2: their page. So the page has to take on, has
Speaker 2: to have certain features, right, has to be able to
Speaker 2: do certain things, and it takes on its own sort
Speaker 2: of personality. You feel me, which is what's interesting about
Speaker 2: this threads thing, which I'm gonna get to later. But
Speaker 2: like Twitter had a feel like when Twitter was was
Speaker 2: at its best, it definitely had a feel.
Speaker 1: But so the Facebook.
Speaker 2: Facebook had a feel, it had a it took on
Speaker 2: a tone, right, and then you go to that page
Speaker 2: or that platform for that tone. Instagram was the same.
Speaker 2: It takes on a thing. That's why this threads thing
Speaker 2: is so interesting to me, which I'll get to later,
Speaker 2: because it's like, well, I went to I go to insta.
Speaker 2: I follow people on Instagram because I like the way
Speaker 2: they Instagram.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I follow the people on Twitter because I like the
Speaker 2: way they tweet. So the idea of seeing tweets of
Speaker 2: my Instagram people I follow Instagram still kind of weird
Speaker 2: to me, but we'll get to that.
Speaker 1: A little later.
Speaker 2: The platforms take on a vibe and a purpose and
Speaker 2: a use, right, and then the the programmers, you know,
Speaker 2: try to monetize. They try to do things to keep
Speaker 2: these people happy to not get bored, you know, And
Speaker 2: but in a lot of ways, the programmers have no
Speaker 2: control over the tone or the feel that their platform
Speaker 2: takes on. If Proud Boy for twenty sixty nine decides
Speaker 2: this is where he's building his empire, is where he's
Speaker 2: building his empire.
Speaker 1: That is decided by the users, which is us.
Speaker 2: So when you ask us, like which platform is better,
Speaker 2: you know which one you like more. It's a matter
Speaker 2: of preference because they essentially not. I mean again, you
Speaker 2: go to certain things for what they offer. Are you
Speaker 2: asking me, is this sushi restaurant better than this soul
Speaker 2: food restaurant? Well, it depends on what I want for dinner,
Speaker 2: I said, like, I go to them for different things.
Speaker 2: Now my experience at that place? What does one have
Speaker 2: better service than the other? Is there better seating? Is
Speaker 2: their outdoor seating? How nice are the waiters? All those
Speaker 2: things can play a factor. But at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, the question is and will always be, who
Speaker 2: are all gonna be there?
Speaker 1: Because that's listen, that's the decide factor for anything. Who
Speaker 1: are all gonna be there? What's a platform success? Who there? Now?
Speaker 2: How you get them there and keep them there? That's
Speaker 2: up to the platform. But the question is really just
Speaker 2: who are all gonna be there? Let's just be real. Now,
Speaker 2: if you're the platform, you gotta decide. This is all
Speaker 2: introduction by the way. Now, if you're the platform and
Speaker 2: you decide, well, I know who I won't there? Like
Speaker 2: if you was a black planet, we already said what
Speaker 2: you want to be there? Now you uh, there's this
Speaker 2: new one called Spill that I'm not gonna give y'all
Speaker 2: a code to, but I mean it's kind of designed
Speaker 2: with black people in mind. It's just it is. Now,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna do the like whole invite only, you know,
Speaker 2: you got to get a code and stuff like this.
Speaker 2: You're trying to be the boogie coffee shop that's kind
Speaker 2: of like the country club.
Speaker 1: Then that's Google gonna be there. Right.
Speaker 2: If you linked in, you know what you're trying to do.
Speaker 2: You're trying to your goal as professionals, Like we're not
Speaker 2: really supposed to be, you know, kind of chilling here.
Speaker 2: If it's Pinterest, you know, it's like you are saying
Speaker 2: out front who you want there. But if you something
Speaker 2: like a Facebook on MySpace and a Twitter, you're like, nah,
Speaker 2: it is supposed to be a marketplace, is supposed to
Speaker 2: be for everybody. This is a town center. But whatever
Speaker 2: you decide, it has a life cycle. Right, So for
Speaker 2: this episode, I want to talk about here's where it
Speaker 2: gets political. Why this Twitter elon and threads meta Zuckerberg thing?
Speaker 2: Why this might be different and how it's the same
Speaker 2: and how My answer to is Thread's going to save us.
Speaker 2: It's Threads gonna be the new thing that finally dethrons Twitter.
Speaker 2: My answer is, you know, you could take the homie
Speaker 2: out the hood, but you can't take the hood out there.
Speaker 1: I will unpack this. That's God, take me, take.
Speaker 3: Thanks the hood, te me the hood.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start at my Space just because uh,
Speaker 2: maybe it's my age, but also I think social media
Speaker 2: as we know it, I think it's it's origin story.
Speaker 2: Of course goes way back beyond that, but at least
Speaker 2: for the versions that we understand in its form that
Speaker 2: we see now.
Speaker 1: We could say MySpace.
Speaker 2: You know, there was Friendster before that, like I said,
Speaker 2: and then there was black Planet for us. But you
Speaker 2: create a profile. You had your MySpace top eight. Those
Speaker 2: are your like your most favorite friends, you know, you
Speaker 2: put them right up front, and then when you started,
Speaker 2: when you dated somebody, they became your number one top eight.
Speaker 2: Then you learned how to like break it to the
Speaker 2: HTML and you could have like a top twenty.
Speaker 1: Right, you had a musical player.
Speaker 2: It had little like this is like I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: like uploading MP Three's like, this is I mean, the
Speaker 2: Internet as we know it was forged in this time, right,
Speaker 2: and then you had your wall of comments where people
Speaker 2: would come in and take your comments and place comments
Speaker 2: on it. It was like creating a Facebook profile where
Speaker 2: people could, like I said, could I say Facebook profile
Speaker 2: because I want. I'm sure that's your closest connection there. Now.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure most of y'all can't remember the last
Speaker 2: time you opened your Facebook because it got taken over
Speaker 2: by who got taken over by, which is what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get to.
Speaker 1: But that's what it was.
Speaker 2: You created a profile, you had your profile picture, you
Speaker 2: had your friends if you will, but we were able
Speaker 2: to do your top friends then you. But what was
Speaker 2: dope was you had a music player that was like
Speaker 2: you could play your favorite songs right now.
Speaker 1: If you were an artist.
Speaker 2: This again, like I said, this is like the new
Speaker 2: like the birth of all this stuff. You'd have a
Speaker 2: MySpace music page, and your music page was different than
Speaker 2: your personal page, just like you have just like Facebook
Speaker 2: pages versus your profiles right where you had.
Speaker 1: Businesses and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: And if you are a MySpace music there's a lot
Speaker 2: of artists that launched off of this. I would venture
Speaker 2: to say that emo as a genre was born out
Speaker 2: of MySpace.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: A lot of these bands, like they toured off their myspaces,
Speaker 2: they sold their merch off of MySpace. You gotta remember,
Speaker 2: this was the time that PayPal became a thing. Like
Speaker 2: all this stuff was being born at this time. You
Speaker 2: could create a career where you didn't need your own
Speaker 2: personal website. This you didn't need a marketing team if
Speaker 2: you will. This was where you could market literally via online.
Speaker 2: Your whole thing could be MySpace, which meant that MySpace
Speaker 2: realized what everybody else realized, everybody getting rich except us.
Speaker 1: They don't make money like that.
Speaker 2: I can't stress this enough for a company like like,
Speaker 2: let's fast forward. Elon paid forty four billion dollars for
Speaker 2: a company that I ain't make no money. Then how
Speaker 2: did you get to the price, because again, money's made up,
Speaker 2: But that's the goal. You build this thing. Never make
Speaker 2: a diamond, then cash out. Listen, social media weird, but
Speaker 2: either way you got to run it. They everybody run
Speaker 2: it to the same problem. You gotta figure out how
Speaker 2: to make money as the platform because everybody else cashing
Speaker 2: out out of it, and it just seems like to me,
Speaker 2: the minute of the platform try to make money, whether
Speaker 2: it's advertising or extra tools and services for businesses, that's
Speaker 2: the death nail. Just I don't know what to tell you, guys.
Speaker 2: Bro I remember I just saw a video of a
Speaker 2: record store out here. They used to do in stores
Speaker 2: and samples and stuff like that, and on that video
Speaker 2: commercial it had their MySpace address. It's like Facebook dogor
Speaker 2: like what we all do where we all put our
Speaker 2: app mintions on our cards. Obviously there's prequels, but this
Speaker 2: is where it's the Orger store here.
Speaker 1: Now, what happened, It got ginormous. It took over everything.
Speaker 2: They was having the same conversations about your screen time
Speaker 2: usage and that the Internet's riding. They was having it
Speaker 2: then too, but MySpace was a way that people were
Speaker 2: launching careers, and just like now, MySpace had to figure
Speaker 2: out how to monetize, and they monetized via ads.
Speaker 1: But at this.
Speaker 2: Time, you know, data mining the way that we understand
Speaker 2: it wasn't a thing like we didn't really know you
Speaker 2: really know how to do it like that. Now. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to get into the weeds of the technical
Speaker 2: aspects as to what started causing the downfall. But what
Speaker 2: I am going to say is from a zeigeist perspective,
Speaker 2: from a user perspective, overcrowding and spam, that's it just
Speaker 2: got played out. It was just too many people, too
Speaker 2: many dirt bags, a lot of grooming going on, a
Speaker 2: lot of cat fishing was all happening. And then there
Speaker 2: was this new place that had these things called status updates.
Speaker 2: It was a cleaner, sort of more user friendly space
Speaker 2: where everybody wasn't at but you could go in. You
Speaker 2: can make connections, you can have direct message, you could
Speaker 2: do these poke things. That was like, oh man, it's
Speaker 2: so crowded over there, man, Like, damn, that's played out.
Speaker 2: It's like it's too it's too man. I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's too trendy. I want to be somewhere else. Hey,
Speaker 2: there's this new thing. It's called Facebook. I think it
Speaker 2: used to just be you know, at Harvard or something.
Speaker 2: And then everybody moved to Facebook. But before everybody moved,
Speaker 2: most people had both a MySpace and a Facebook, and
Speaker 2: then eventually, slowly but surely stop using our MySpace. MySpace
Speaker 2: went through a lot of iterations. Somebody else bought it
Speaker 2: and the new version of it. That's crazy. There's a
Speaker 2: new version of MySpace that the interface is incredible. Dog
Speaker 2: you know bought it? Was justin Timberlake's pretty crazy, crazy story. Anyway,
Speaker 2: the crowds migrated. Where did my Space go wrong? Some
Speaker 2: would say it just got too cool, Some would say
Speaker 2: it got too big, would say it got too spammy.
Speaker 2: Some would say the moderation made the experience not as fun,
Speaker 2: and some would others just and others would just say,
Speaker 2: shiny new things, competition, something else. We've been doing this
Speaker 2: for too long. Let's find something else. And everybody moved.
Speaker 2: And when everybody moved to Facebook, there were other things
Speaker 2: happening at that time. There was all kinds of others started,
Speaker 2: these booms of other sort of platforms that were building.
Speaker 2: But to follow our story, the next would be Instagram
Speaker 2: and Twitter. And remember Facebook didn't invent Instagram. Facebook bought Instagram.
Speaker 2: Instagram at first was just a photo platform. I remember
Speaker 2: I downloaded it and not knowing there was a social
Speaker 2: part of it. I did it because I was just
Speaker 2: looking for cool like photo filters. It was just about
Speaker 2: like these cool little like you know, vintage filters. And
Speaker 2: then guess what everybody liked the simplicity of it because
Speaker 2: Facebook kind of did too much. And it was kind
Speaker 2: of cool because you could take your Instagram photos so
Speaker 2: you could put it on your Facebook, you know, you
Speaker 2: could like poor It was kind of cool. Like and
Speaker 2: then Facebook's not stupid. Facebook is meta now, but you know,
Speaker 2: Facebook's not stupid. They were like, we should just buy that.
Speaker 2: That way we could have it both because Facebook knows
Speaker 2: what it did to my space, crust it and then
Speaker 2: move on to Twitter, you know, and I'm moving through
Speaker 2: space pretty fast. But remember again, most people had both, right,
Speaker 2: But then, remember these platforms they take on personalities. Y'all
Speaker 2: know what happened to Facebook. It got broke when our
Speaker 2: aunts and uncles, well y'all's aunts and uncles got on it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean by y'all. Right, But then
Speaker 2: it just took on this sort of old, kind of
Speaker 2: right wing kind of conspiracy theory space. And once our
Speaker 2: grandma's was on it, it was just untenable. And he
Speaker 2: tried to do so many different things and it just
Speaker 2: you were doing too much. The interface became just like
Speaker 2: it's just what is all this? Remember all them games
Speaker 2: you know you do, They're like hey, are you with
Speaker 2: more California? And what state do you naturally be and
Speaker 2: answer this question? And then you had the sheep things,
Speaker 2: and then you had all these invitations to these games
Speaker 2: and shit, and you was just.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: And then there are connected people like, hey, this fool
Speaker 2: goes to your high school. Don't you want to be
Speaker 2: friends with them? And it's like, nigga, no, it's just
Speaker 2: started doing too much. The experience became like, fam, I
Speaker 2: know you're trying to do this to keep us on
Speaker 2: this page, but this experience.
Speaker 1: Is getting lame.
Speaker 2: Goddamn everybody here now I'm trying to avoid these people
Speaker 2: from high school.
Speaker 1: Was horrible. I don't need friends with them. You're thinking,
Speaker 1: we want this. You keep creating these tools it better.
Speaker 2: And my lord, have you ever tried to use Facebook
Speaker 2: business or Meta business. That is the most unusable site
Speaker 2: I've ever And what sucks is if you want to
Speaker 2: sell some on your Instagram, you gotta use it. I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is the most unusable. None of these buttons makes sense.
Speaker 2: It just became like it's cumbersome. It's like I have
Speaker 2: my I have my public figure page, my profile page.
Speaker 1: You gotta end up managing these pages.
Speaker 2: You got the terraform page, you got the whole politics page,
Speaker 2: I had the Red Couch podcast pace. You have to
Speaker 2: have all these separate pages and to try to make
Speaker 2: them all talk together, you had to have this whole
Speaker 2: other app to do that. And I'm just like, this
Speaker 2: is I hate this. And then on top of it,
Speaker 2: every comment is some right wing troll. It took on
Speaker 2: a personality, and you're telling them to monitor that. But like,
Speaker 2: it's not the Facebook people doing that, it's the users
Speaker 2: doing it. Took on a tone. Foods ran to Twitter,
Speaker 2: and then you run the Twitter. And then after a while,
Speaker 2: for the last like kind of zone we've been in,
Speaker 2: it's like you have a Twitter and an Instagram, and
Speaker 2: of course you have things like Snapchat, right, which again
Speaker 2: took on an age We all felt like that was
Speaker 2: just an age group thing, right. And then you had
Speaker 2: the advent of TikTok, which was its own thing, right.
Speaker 2: And I'm not even mentioning Vine and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: These things that got enveloped into these other apps in
Speaker 2: hopes to keep everybody on their page. But each of
Speaker 2: these things took on their own personalities and who created
Speaker 2: those personalities us the users, and of course you're doing
Speaker 2: all these different things here and there as far as
Speaker 2: like as modern racist, as securate your experience. We all
Speaker 2: ran it tow we know what Twitter became. Twitter became
Speaker 2: the place where you doom scroll right.
Speaker 1: It's a place where you organized for resistance.
Speaker 2: It was a place where you could trusted, place to
Speaker 2: get your news right, but it was also a place
Speaker 2: to find your silo and just to get enraged. It
Speaker 2: went from what color is this dress?
Speaker 1: Where we could laugh.
Speaker 2: You have things like black Twitter, where like the gossip,
Speaker 2: the t the zeigeist was all decided on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Little did we know Reddit was creating all of the memes,
Speaker 2: but you had to be terminally online to know the
Speaker 2: Reddit stuff. So again Reddit took on its own thing,
Speaker 2: and then Twitter became overran by blue check crypto bros
Speaker 2: who just love elon. It took on a tone and
Speaker 2: that was its killer. And now we're watching again, a
Speaker 2: new place come in now. They tried with Masadon, They
Speaker 2: tried with blue Sky, but Macedon was too much like Reddit.
Speaker 2: You got to be like super online to be that.
Speaker 2: Blue Sky was too booze. You only get an invite,
Speaker 2: And what Threads did that was so different was like,
Speaker 2: you're not starting from scratching with this one. You could
Speaker 2: just poured all your followers into here, but it's still so.
Speaker 2: Here's a good example. You know, if you get to
Speaker 2: a club, to the hot, trendy club, but you get
Speaker 2: there at like ten thirty eleven, ain't nobody there.
Speaker 1: You just standing around.
Speaker 2: You know this is the place to be, but by
Speaker 2: the time everybody get here, you kind of tired of it.
Speaker 2: It's kind of not you can't really You're like, this
Speaker 2: place is. I don't know how dope this place is
Speaker 2: because ain't nobody here. I don't care how good the
Speaker 2: bar is. If nobody here, nobody's staying. But if you
Speaker 2: get to a club and it's cracking already, you're like, yo,
Speaker 2: like what's good?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's what Threads did.
Speaker 2: Threads figured out how to make sure the club already
Speaker 2: cracking when everybody get here, because all the homies came together.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, y'all all everybody went to
Speaker 2: the function at the same time, rather than doing it
Speaker 2: like a trendy club where you got to get her
Speaker 2: at a certain time. It was more like a festival
Speaker 2: stage where this stage is getting lame while this stage
Speaker 2: is getting cracking. See, Zuck got got some good sense
Speaker 2: in that sense. That's the miracle. Is Zuck got us
Speaker 2: cheering for him. That's the weirdest part because if I
Speaker 2: had to choose between Elon and Zuck, I cannot believe
Speaker 2: this man pulled off the miracle to make me cheer.
Speaker 1: Choose him, right.
Speaker 2: So it's not so much like the club, it's more
Speaker 2: like the festival stage.
Speaker 1: This stage is getting weird.
Speaker 2: I was at the main stage, but it's getting weird,
Speaker 2: and people slowly but surely leaving that stage trying to
Speaker 2: figure out which stage they're going to. If this the
Speaker 2: is already up and running, it's already got a crowd there.
Speaker 2: Oh that's dope. All my favorite bands is already over there.
Speaker 2: Let's just all go over there. It's brilliant. Is it
Speaker 2: going to kill that stage? No, nobody's tearing down the stage.
Speaker 2: It'll still be over it. It just ain't gonna be nobody
Speaker 2: in front of it except for a few weirdos like
Speaker 2: you can still go to MySpace dot com.
Speaker 1: It's still there, all right, Parlor is still there.
Speaker 2: It just ain't but fifteen people there, you know, so,
Speaker 2: I mean it's still open, it's just only weirdos and
Speaker 2: they're happy. But this new stage, oh man, you done
Speaker 2: crack the code in some ways, because when you get here,
Speaker 2: everybody already here. You ain't got to try to rebuild
Speaker 2: your network again. You ain't got to try to rEFInd
Speaker 2: the homies. You ain't gotta wait till everybody get here
Speaker 2: before it becomes dope.
Speaker 1: But is it, y'all? Save you? Here's why I say.
Speaker 2: You could take the homie out the hood, but you
Speaker 2: can't take the hood out the homeboy.
Speaker 1: What ruined every other platform? Nigga? Us we're the problem now.
Speaker 2: Of course there's all kinds of different things that cost,
Speaker 2: but set aside the curation of the tools and services.
Speaker 2: Of course that plays a role. But the personality Facebook
Speaker 2: took on was its users. I don't want to be
Speaker 2: around them. Y'all made this shit trash. That's why I
Speaker 2: want to be here no more. Why is Twitter untenable?
Speaker 1: Nigga? The blue checks the bots. What you've allowed? You done?
Speaker 1: Let in the riff raft.
Speaker 2: It's the same platform despite all the problems.
Speaker 1: I'm finna get to right after I tell you this.
Speaker 1: But this is why.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm trying to say, is threads gonna
Speaker 2: save us, nigga. Threads ain't gonna change us. You know
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. You're gonna become a threads influencer. You
Speaker 2: have to learn how to monetize threads. I'm already seeing
Speaker 2: on my threads the same thing that happened in my Instagram.
Speaker 2: It's all these accounts I don't actually follow that are
Speaker 2: in my home. Pay damn shits, get on my nerve.
Speaker 2: Master it on too hard to you. The problem is
Speaker 2: we bring the problems everywhere we go. You ever said
Speaker 2: your ex girl was crazy? You ever said your ex
Speaker 2: man was crazy? You ever thought to yourself, am I
Speaker 2: keep dating all these crazy folks?
Speaker 1: What do you.
Speaker 2: Think might be the continuing factor in this situation?
Speaker 1: Nigga? You you why they chrazy?
Speaker 2: You know what's the problem with social networks is the
Speaker 2: social nigga us we don't know how to act. Stop
Speaker 2: thinking this platform gonna save you, Nigga.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: We bring it all the problems into this new platform.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's the same threads if it
Speaker 2: survives nigga Twitter was gonna die anyway. Now, how it's
Speaker 2: different is this next segment that Elon and Nigga cocked
Speaker 2: the gun and shot that mug. And that's why it's different,
Speaker 2: and that's why it's political. But basically, we're gonna bring
Speaker 2: the same problems. We're the same folks from my Space.
Speaker 2: We're the same users. All the ship you don't like
Speaker 2: in Instagram from the people, it's the same people right now.
Speaker 1: It's dope. Every platform like this.
Speaker 2: In the beginning, it feels so cool because the riff
Speaker 2: raft ain't got here, The lowest parts of you ain't out,
Speaker 2: ain't out of you yet. But them boxes coming, Nigga,
Speaker 2: them influences coming.
Speaker 1: Because the ship is the same. You could just look. Look, look,
Speaker 1: all we did was move.
Speaker 2: From one block to another because were the same folks.
Speaker 2: You could take nigga out the hood, can't take the
Speaker 2: hood out the nigga. Now that's how it's the same. Now,
Speaker 2: why is this particular one different?
Speaker 1: That's neake.
Speaker 2: Now here's why it's different. This situation is not just
Speaker 2: like the rest of them. Why the whole example I
Speaker 2: just talked about for the last three minutes or last
Speaker 2: thirty minutes I'm about to. But on the other hand,
Speaker 2: well actually myself right now, although I feel like my
Speaker 2: point still stands where it's like this threads is not
Speaker 2: gonna save you. We gotta fix us. It's not the
Speaker 2: platform's fault, it's us. That point still stands. But this
Speaker 2: is different. Let me tell you why it's different. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give you three reasons. First reason is, before Facebook,
Speaker 2: social media didn't matter politically. You didn't mobilize earth moving movements,
Speaker 2: genocides and also revolutions. The world wasn't connected like that,
Speaker 2: so it didn't matter. Misinformation wasn't trafficked through play platforms.
Speaker 2: We weren't talking about fence do us you know on
Speaker 2: the floor of the Congress. It just didn't matter because
Speaker 2: it wasn't moving nations. Now because remember the last time
Speaker 2: we talked about the Supreme Court, when we're trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what is free speech, that was never really
Speaker 2: in question in the way that like this is where
Speaker 2: we are now you got YouTube being sued because it
Speaker 2: may hold liability for that's these are for a terrorist attack,
Speaker 2: like the these are new days. So it's different. Number one,
Speaker 2: because it matters now. So that's one way it's different.
Speaker 2: The second way is different is we never gave a
Speaker 2: shit who owned the pages. Tom was a character mark
Speaker 2: we don't like. It's the same as politics. Once your
Speaker 2: political positions become personality driven, body gets turned into a pretzel.
Speaker 2: That's what happened to the Republican Party. You went from
Speaker 2: Reagan stands you know what I'm saying to trumpo sexuals,
Speaker 2: and it's it broke y'all so and a lot of
Speaker 2: times now that it broke y'all, it broke us too,
Speaker 2: because even when Trump says something, even if it kind
Speaker 2: of makes sense, I'm like, but it came out of
Speaker 2: his mouth. I can't I'm gonna take It's gonna take
Speaker 2: a second, you feel me. It's personality driven. So these platforms,
Speaker 2: even if they're the dopest possible platform, what is truth
Speaker 2: social It's Twitter? But for Trump sexuals it's so stupid.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the interface is like because I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna sign up for it. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be there. Now, that's where the combination of the two
Speaker 2: things happened. Like that, that is y'all have made that
Speaker 2: into like who I do not want to be in
Speaker 2: that space. And then Parla is just an empty trailer
Speaker 2: park right now, like five people still running around there.
Speaker 2: Look like an abandoned mall in the Midwest somewhere.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 2: But the platform is not so much about its usability
Speaker 2: and sometimes not even about its users. Its users are
Speaker 2: there because of its owner. And Twitter was able to
Speaker 2: avoid that until this Elon Mustang. And Elon has a
Speaker 2: way of doing that to whatever company he owns. He
Speaker 2: didn't make Twitter, he didn't make Tesla, like he didn't
Speaker 2: make these companies.
Speaker 1: He bought them.
Speaker 2: But he's such a cult of personality that it takes
Speaker 2: on that. And that's what happens when you were a billionaire.
Speaker 2: Like we talk with this all the time. Billionaires never
Speaker 2: get told no. So because you never get told no,
Speaker 2: you think you know what you're talking about. So the
Speaker 2: torpedo of Twitter, it ain't really threads. Thread just saw
Speaker 2: blood in the water. We all know what happened to
Speaker 2: Twitter and the last straw. Now some of y'all are
Speaker 2: like you tripping. I love Twitter.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've lost about ten thousand followers cause niggas are leaving.
Speaker 2: Why are they're leaving? It's the experience, and it's the personality.
Speaker 2: That's different. We never cared who the guy was. Is
Speaker 2: the is it still a function? Is it still a party?
Speaker 2: Is the club still cracking?
Speaker 1: I don't care. We'll own the club. The club cracking now,
Speaker 1: even if the club cracking.
Speaker 2: But this owner, he keep letting in these weirdos, that
Speaker 2: shit weird Cuz I don't want beard no more.
Speaker 1: What will happened? He jumped in, figured he knew better.
Speaker 2: He fired like forty percent of his uh of his staff,
Speaker 2: and they was like, well, it's some bullshit. You don't
Speaker 2: know how to do this, but if we gotta go,
Speaker 2: we gotta go. Then a nigga tried to make us
Speaker 2: pay for shit we had already. And that's because again,
Speaker 2: social media don't make money. So I was a blue
Speaker 2: check and I proudly lost it. When he was like,
Speaker 2: you gotta subscribe eight dollars a month to get a
Speaker 2: blue check, I was like, you can have that little check.
Speaker 2: You think I'm gonna pay for something I've had for
Speaker 2: free for ten years, it's not that serious, big homy.
Speaker 1: It ruined what the checks were for. The checks were for.
Speaker 1: I see his logic.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, I got to figure out how to
Speaker 2: make money somehow, and the logic was, you got this
Speaker 2: cool kids table, man, fuck the cool kids table. I
Speaker 2: get it because he probably was never on the cool
Speaker 2: kids table until he got rich anyway, but it was
Speaker 2: away for us to know if I see this account,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, they are who they say they are.
Speaker 1: Now, I just know you paid eight dollars.
Speaker 2: You're paying for Twitter, like I can't believe you're paying
Speaker 2: for Twitter, right, So there's that. You can do it
Speaker 2: on Meta now, but at least on Instagram. I still
Speaker 2: got my blue check. But you could click on it
Speaker 2: and it'll say verified since twenty fourteen, which means you know,
Speaker 2: I ain't pay for this shit now. Mark want to
Speaker 2: take my check, you can have it, nigga, I don't care.
Speaker 2: It's just a check. I'm not paying you for this.
Speaker 2: I'm already paying for the ads to be able to
Speaker 2: run ads.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I get that. So he
Speaker 1: tried to do that and that shit didn't work.
Speaker 2: He was like, I'm gonna dangle to edit button in
Speaker 2: front of you, but I'm making pay for it because
Speaker 2: we all been saying we need an edit button.
Speaker 1: He's like, nah, y'all paid for it. It's like it
Speaker 1: ain't that serious, man.
Speaker 2: And because he was so weird, and he brought back
Speaker 2: people that were making He brought back weirdos, brought back
Speaker 2: Margie Taylor Green and I'm not saying because he had
Speaker 2: this belief that, like you know, right wing voices were
Speaker 2: being shut down that ain't true. Weirdos were being shut down.
Speaker 2: I like, Yiggy, you're a weirdo. And then they kicked
Speaker 2: out the president Nigga because he's a weirdo like you.
Speaker 2: I just don't understand how you can't see that that
Speaker 2: man a weirdo. So yeah, they put him out, we
Speaker 2: had to. Then they brought him back in, but by
Speaker 2: this time the weirdo had already had his own platform.
Speaker 1: He ain't coming back.
Speaker 2: Then we just got over rammed by the NFT crypto
Speaker 2: bros in these bots. Man, I can't tell and these
Speaker 2: reply guys that love that's a new one. Just it's
Speaker 2: what is happening right now. It's so weird. It's like
Speaker 2: somebody just opened the back door of the function and
Speaker 2: just let in these weirdos like nah, I'm good, fam
Speaker 2: And most of us stuck around, who had at least
Speaker 2: even the people that were raging I'm believing if he
Speaker 2: buys it.
Speaker 1: You didn't leave. You just didn't check it often.
Speaker 2: You just walked to the next stage, hoping that some
Speaker 2: next stage would be super dope.
Speaker 1: And people tried.
Speaker 2: Blue Sky tried, but like I said, they too, Bougie
Speaker 2: masdon you gotta be terminally online and be able to
Speaker 2: be a part of that. But if Twitter would have
Speaker 2: stayed usable, we probably would have been able to stand
Speaker 2: eline but elon all over the place. And until you
Speaker 2: can find us a better alternative, I guess we was
Speaker 2: just gonna be stuck here.
Speaker 1: And then the last draw.
Speaker 2: When we woke up to you have exceeded your limit
Speaker 2: of tweets and we was like, man, what and what
Speaker 2: he said it was for? It was because you know,
Speaker 2: there's these AI like machine learning machines that were teaching
Speaker 2: itself how to be better chat bots by farming all
Speaker 2: of our tweets so it could sound more human. He
Speaker 2: was like, I'm trying to stop that. But if you
Speaker 2: got Twitter blue, you could get more tweets than that.
Speaker 2: We was like, nigga, don't piss on my back and
Speaker 2: tell me it's raining. You ain't pay your server bill
Speaker 2: and we all know you didn't because you're not making
Speaker 2: no money and you don't know what the hell you're doing.
Speaker 2: And it seemed like that was the last straw. People
Speaker 2: were like, all right, man, I'll deal with the trolls.
Speaker 2: I'll deal with the bots, because it's trolls and bots everywhere.
Speaker 2: But you have just you've turned this into a trap house.
Speaker 2: I can live in a hood, but you done made
Speaker 2: it the trap house. Now we can't be here. Now
Speaker 2: Threads comes in, shiny new thing. Is it going to
Speaker 2: kill Twitter?
Speaker 1: Well? Twitter was already.
Speaker 2: Dying, but his his, his tribe of Elon lovers will
Speaker 2: they'll be there.
Speaker 1: It'll be all right.
Speaker 2: I haven't deleted my Twitter because again, I'm still at
Speaker 2: the festival. I'm mixing my managers, I'm still at the Factible.
Speaker 2: I'm just not at that stage. I may peek over
Speaker 2: at that stage again and be like, oh yeah no,
Speaker 2: I'm still weird those I'll be over here now. Am
Speaker 2: I gonna stay at the thread stage? Who knows that
Speaker 2: stage might shut down? And also I know he's he
Speaker 2: threatened to sue Meta for basically biting like you you
Speaker 2: bid us, you took all of our you siphoned our
Speaker 2: employees and you built a clone and it was like, hey,
Speaker 2: numb nuts. They didn't siphon them. You fired them. You
Speaker 2: remember when you came in and you fired everybody.
Speaker 1: You didn't. You didn't think this, They would just never.
Speaker 3: Mind, thank you.
Speaker 1: So threads might be cool.
Speaker 2: The weird those are gonna realize that's where everybody at
Speaker 2: and come over here. That's all I'm saying. These places
Speaker 2: is not your savor. You could take the homie out
Speaker 2: the hood. You can't take the hood out the home. However,
Speaker 2: if these platforms continue to move nations the way they do,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if we'll have them at all.
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