1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I'm on 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Mike destro and today we're looking 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: at the top five interviews of but before we get 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: into those, I just want to say thank you for listening. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: The podcast has sufficiently turned one year old, and it's 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: crazy to think that in a year where there hasn't 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: been really any new movies in the whole landscape, but 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: watching movies has completely changed that I've been able to 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: do a podcast entirely about movies. I've had to kind 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: of shift how I do this podcast and kind of 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: what I set out to do, but I think I 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: was able to create something fun here and something that 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: you guys have been listening to and really kind of 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: supporting me in. And I see you guys like the 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: day one listeners that were there from the very first episode. 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: I want to say, really appreciate that. And the fact 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: that you have listened every single week, told a friend 18 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: about it, subscribed on all those things really means a 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: lot to me because this really just started as a 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: passion project and I was just I'm just a guy 21 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: who loves movies, Like basically, that's it. If you don't 22 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: know my story. I am a writer and producer on 23 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: The Bobby Bones Show, and that was kind of my 24 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: role on that show, just being the go to movie expert, 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: and I would review movies on my Instagram and I 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, maybe I could turn this 27 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: into something. And from there, I've taken movie reviews and 28 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: made them a part of this podcast and really just 29 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: made it something that allows me to be creative and 30 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: kind of get this passion of mine a place to live. 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: And the thing that's really kind of new to me 32 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: is doing interviews. I've never really done them before until 33 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: I started this podcast, but I wanted to talk to directors, 34 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to actors, so I was like, 35 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: all right, I gotta step a little bit out of 36 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: my comfort zone to get these interviews. And that's what 37 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: I kind of started doing a lot this year. So 38 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: what I am looking at is just my favorite moments 39 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: and cool people I've been able to talk to on 40 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: this podcast. So we'll get right into it, starting out 41 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: at number five with Jonathan lip Nikki, who you would 42 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: know as the kid from Jerry McGuire. He was also 43 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: in Stewart Little like Mike. Here's my conversation with him 44 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: and when you do your first movie, you're five years old. 45 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Jerry McGuire Like, I don't remember anything from when I 46 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: was five years old, but yeah, you have a film 47 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: where you're in and you're five years old, Like do 48 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: you remember actually being on set and filming that movie? 49 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: Like bits and pieces, it's like glimpses at this point 50 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: or like small things I'll remember that or really weird 51 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: like oh, I remember how that piece of wardrobe looked 52 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: or smelled or like, you know, but a lot of 53 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: it lives through the stories my family tells, and you know, 54 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 1: my mom was around a lot for you know, most 55 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: of my filming. It was my mom and my mom, 56 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: between my mom and my dad. Like that's kind of 57 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: my source of a lot of the memory, you know. Um, 58 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's you know, each year goes by 59 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: and it's like just been a part of me, um, 60 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, and so it's here and there, you know, 61 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: here and there. Definitely the memories that's seeing though with 62 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: you and Tom Cruise where you're going back and forth 63 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: with facts, is there anything you remember about like working 64 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: with Tom Cruise in debt, Like did he help you, 65 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: like like guy throughout that process? Of like learning lines 66 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, you know, he's he's he's 67 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. And I'm really lucky that my 68 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: first project was with him. He is the ultimate professional. 69 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: He taught me what professionalism is, and um, I learned 70 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: a lot. And I also just harnessed my love for 71 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: doing this and making me realize I want to do 72 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: this for the rest of my life. How long after 73 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: that movie did you realize, like, oh, I'm saying this, 74 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: like people who are like recognizing me, Like, how long 75 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: after that did that happen? Uh? You know when it 76 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: came out, like it was just like a kind of 77 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: a interesting thing. I I didn't quite grasp officially when 78 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: like you know, when when when I first got recognized, 79 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't really quite understand it. Um, 80 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: I don't think you can ever understand it, no matter 81 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: if your kid or an adult, because you're the person 82 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: living it, So you don't really like understand what it 83 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: means to other people. You know, you just understand what 84 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: it's meant to you and how you've lived through the 85 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: circumstances in your life. But you know, it's an interesting thing, 86 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's really it's really an interesting thing, especially 87 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: at a young age. I think one of my favorite 88 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: movies a kid was Stewart Little Um when you're doing 89 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: that movie, like, what are you looking at when you're acting? 90 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: Is there just like a little green screen thing or 91 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: something a piece of tape? A lot of the time 92 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: so it's just a tale of tape or like a 93 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: laser laser pointner, you know. Sometimes they had a little 94 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: little doll but of Stewart, but like a lot of 95 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: times it was like tape, you know, just talking to tape. 96 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: At number four is my talk with director Rod Larry, 97 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: director of The Outpost, a movie I really wasn't expecting 98 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: to like but ended up being one of my favorite movies, 99 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: and he was a really cool guy. I felt like 100 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: we had a chance to kind of geek out a 101 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: little bit on Christopher Nolan and just war movies. So 102 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: I put this one at number four. So I just 103 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: watched your movie, and I gotta say, it's like, not 104 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: only one of the best movies I've seen this year, 105 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: but I think one of the best war movies I've 106 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: ever seen. So I just want to say congrats on that. Well, 107 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: thank you very much. I mean, look, it's you know, 108 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: making a war film. It's a it's a tough bit 109 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: of business, and I'm glad we succeeded in in in 110 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: your mind. You know, I'm a massive, massive war film fan, 111 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: and a few years ago I want to see that 112 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: movie called Dunkirk that Chris Nolan felt and it was 113 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: it was just so amazingly creative and and uh and 114 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: energetic and just so full of cinematic life that you know, 115 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: it really did. It really inspired me. I mean, we 116 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: don't shoot in that style at all, but it just 117 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: inspired me to, you know, have high aspirations on it. 118 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: Making a bar film talking about like dun Kirk and 119 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: having like that feeling of being in the action. Is 120 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: that kind of where you drew some of that inspiration 121 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: for this, Like the fight sequences, I mean, the idea 122 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: inside trying to accomplish a much different way than that 123 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: Dunkirk did Dunkirk. I think it was a little bit 124 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: more objective than on film is this film is is 125 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: very subjective. It's very much when the men on the ground. 126 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: You know, for the battle sequence, I used a single 127 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: camera and just followed soldiers throughout the course of the battle. 128 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: You know, we never shot away, We never cut away. 129 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: And so we really were intending to put the audience 130 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: into a formersive um experience in this you know, in 131 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: this vattel, which was probably the most heroic battle of 132 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: the of the Afghanistan War. How exactly do you do that? 133 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: Because I know, like nineteen seventeen they did that where 134 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: the whole movie was in one shot. So what is 135 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: that process of like is it all in editing? Are 136 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: you really doing it all in one shot? Well? Okay, 137 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: so you know, you just you just said something really 138 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: interesting there because on the one hand, you just said 139 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: that the Dunkirk is I'm sorry that Macnews seventeen, which 140 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: by the way is a masterpiece, a fantastic movie, one 141 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: of my favorites, um, is all done in one shot. 142 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: But in fact, the greatness, the cinematic technical achievement of 143 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: Macne seventeen is that I gave the appearance of being 144 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: in one shot. I don't know how many cuts I 145 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: counted as a as a pro and the something that 146 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: I missed, I'm sure, but you know there are dozens 147 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: and dozens are cuts in that film and in our 148 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: film that those lengthy sequences, there's very little what we 149 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: call stitching, you know, cutting together two two shots seamlessly. 150 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: To make it appear as one, we really had to 151 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: rehearse because we just didn't have the budget to do that. 152 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: So you know, we actually have to shoot these things 153 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: in waters and it was no easy defeat. So you 154 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: have this movie. It's you know, very big and cinematic, 155 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: and I found it a little weird watching it, like 156 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: on my laptop now because of what's going on movie 157 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: theaters being right on. How does that feel for you, 158 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: like having this movie coming out and knowing that people 159 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: won't get that full cinematic experience. Well, I mean they're 160 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: they're they're they're variations on that. Like, if I'm being 161 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: perfectly honest with you, it's sort of basically hard to 162 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: see that anybody watches it on the laptop and one 163 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: person holding they watched it on the phone, which is 164 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: like completely severs severs my heart because you know, I 165 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: shot this for the big screen. I made it for 166 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: the big screen. It's you know, especially as sound work 167 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: is made for the big screen. Um. But you know, look, 168 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: life is what it is, right and and um, and 169 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: I fully expect that it's going to stay this way 170 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: pretty much forever. I think that anytime anybody makes a 171 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: film that is not a Captain you know, Marvel film 172 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: or Star Wars of James Bond, that you know, they 173 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: should anticipate that it's primarily going to be seeing on 174 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: people's home system. So you know all that, All that 175 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: I'd ask is that you know, when you do see 176 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: the film, you know, I was trying to see it 177 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: in the best experience possible, the biggest screen, you got, 178 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: the sound because I'm sure worked our assis us you know, 179 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: to get to you know, to try and accomplish that, 180 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: you know, like I know that, Um, you know, I'm 181 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: in the Most Picture Academy. So when Chris is going 182 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: back to Dunkirk, when when we got our DVD box 183 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: for Dunkirk, um, I opened it up and there was 184 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: a note from Chris Nolan saying, come on, man, let's 185 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: see this in the theater. And and that's really what 186 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: I was what I was hoping for. Well, speaking of 187 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan, I saw a story recently that he says 188 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't allow airs on set because if you're sitting, 189 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: you're not working. Is there any kind of rule like 190 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: that you have on set? That's a that's an instant 191 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: I do the reverse thing is that, Um, I don't 192 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: allow myself to sit. You know, I literally don't have 193 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: a chair on set. You know. Look, look, I when 194 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: I when I was a cadet at West Point, Um, 195 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: there is a rule that the cadets don't sit throughout 196 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: the game. You stand with the team. You know, while 197 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: they're on their feet, you're on your feet, You're the 198 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: twelve mat. And so I've I've done this throughout my 199 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: entire career, and especially on a movie like this where 200 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm asking the actors, I'm asking the crew to be 201 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: so physically fit and so physically involved in the film, 202 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: um that you know, as long as they're on their feet, 203 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to be on my feet. But I do 204 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: let the actors sit, especially when when there is so 205 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: much running and gunning and exhausted involved in the making 206 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: of this film. I mean, like this thing was was 207 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: a motherfucker. Man, there was was unbelievable. Know what these 208 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: actors have to go through. Speaking of that, we're working 209 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: with the actors, what they like to direct. A guy 210 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: like Orlando Bloom, such a veteran actor, and you're having 211 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: to you know, direct him in a very intense way. Well, 212 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, Here's the thing that I learned after I 213 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: made my first film, which is that there's no there's 214 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: no one system fits all for directing actors. Everybody. Everybody 215 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: is different and everyone needs to be directed differently. Some 216 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: actors come with a very specific mindset of how they 217 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: want to play a ball, and others are claving direction 218 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: and others want to, you know, want to completely completely 219 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: mix it up, you know. Uh. With with Orlando, Orlando 220 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: is a vet. He does you know, he did spend 221 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: time with the father of the guy he's portraying. Um, 222 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: the guys praying portraying is was going named Ben Keating, 223 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: one of certainly a war hero, and um, he got 224 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: to you know, he got to know him as best 225 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: as best he could. You know that he's not alive anymore, 226 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: but um, but he did look to me and he 227 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: looked at the military advisors for how to behave militarily. 228 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: Although he has he's certainly you remember he did black 229 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: Hawk Down, so he has um some some experience with it. 230 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: But you're right, he's he's a vet, and uh, you 231 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: know he needs a little less direction than most. At 232 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: number three is actor Sean Whalen, who you've probably seen 233 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: in a lot of things, and he's in one of 234 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: my favorite movies of all time, Twister, and I saw 235 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: him on TikTok and reached out to him and he 236 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'll do the podcast. So I got 237 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: to ask him all my questions about one of my 238 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: favorite movies, Twister, and it was awesome. So when you 239 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: first get this part of Alan in it, like, how 240 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: is that character described to you? Uh, it kind of wasn't. 241 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: They just don't really. It was very open. They we 242 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: were just bust storm pacers and that were the only 243 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: thing we were told of Alan Ruckett myself were told 244 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: that we were in charge to navigate it. Now, you know, 245 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: this was the nineties, so there was no app for 246 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, Google Maps or anything like that or ways 247 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: or anything. So we were in charge of what is 248 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: the best way to get the closest and safest to 249 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: the tornado or then the quipments, you know, And that's 250 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: the only thing we knew is that's who we were. 251 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: So I kind of came. But they did give us 252 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: the costume. You know, we went book fitting and you 253 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: saw the kind of costume I had. The backwards baseball 254 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: had buch funny turn things like that. So I kind 255 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: of came up with anything about that character myself. But 256 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: while we hung out with each other so much, things 257 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: just came in the movie where that we're just kind 258 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: of like us fooling around, like Philip Sima Hassam and 259 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: I going like food food with our fingers. Um. That 260 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: is uh, that was because that was what we were 261 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: doing that some of the fingerst thing, and we would 262 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: joke around like that whenever we wanted someone yet, you 263 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: know whatever, So we did we did that in the movie. Hey, 264 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: we're absolutely not going. At the end of the movie, 265 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: you can see people playing last paper scissors as the 266 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: helicopter goes away. So this is all stuff that we 267 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: used to do hanging out. But but it is funny 268 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: now that I'm putting these things on TikTok and stuff, 269 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: how much people actually liked the cat, liked the camaraderie 270 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: and saw that we were friends because seriously of us, 271 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, we all got along really well. Yeah, 272 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: what's so great about it? First, the cast is just 273 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: an amazing group of actors, and then I feel like 274 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: it's you identify with them being kind of the underdog 275 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: storm chaser group, and I think that's kind of what Also, 276 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: people just loved about it, like, oh, it's these just 277 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: a group of people who are like using their own 278 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: vehicles basically against the big corporate you know, storm chasers. Yeah, 279 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean what was crazy was they cast all these 280 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean Anthony Repps, star of Broadway Rent, the you know, 281 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: originator of the role of Rent. He was on the 282 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: Bad Guys team you Hardly Found. So they had all 283 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: these characters, but Ruby had been around and tons of things. 284 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: They had this big grouping young actors and then just 285 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: chose who was on what you brought up that line 286 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: about you know the food that food scene do you have? 287 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of something that there's a 288 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: bunch of like quotes in lines from this movie that 289 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: I fell over the years has become part of my vocabulary, 290 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: Like I used that part when I'm talking about dinner 291 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: like food. Yeah. Yeah, it's so funny. So many people 292 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: say stuff, Oh my god, I get I used to 293 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: be known for the most commercialness. Say you know, you're 294 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: the milk guy. I won't talk about that a little 295 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: bit later, but I would get that all the time. 296 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: And now after all these years, everybody's saying hold the 297 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: map or don't don't hold the map. Don't hold the map. 298 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: And so when I signed pictures of a picture, you know, 299 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: I do these last things where I sign autographs, uh 300 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: photos on TikTok in the afternoons on Friday to do it. 301 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: But I signed on that one there's a picture of 302 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: me and on wreck by those taystex and I write 303 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: hold the map instead of don't hold the map. Because 304 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, people were like, did you actually fold them 305 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: or not? And I go, well, of course I did. 306 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: I just find them. I didn't hold the map. Told 307 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: me to roll the maps, so I folded over. Yeah. Yeah. 308 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: So I mean it's just so funny that, yeah, that's 309 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: the lexicon and people are saying the wonder of nature 310 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: you know fills line and everyone loves you know cow 311 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: and that's the same cow, you know those lines, all 312 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: these lines. It's it's just I had no idea. But 313 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: I think it really kept into this Zeke type right now, 314 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: which is really a lot of nights he's must out them. 315 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: You know. So when when you guys are filming this movie, 316 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: a lot of it is you know the c G 317 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: I Tornado, the Twister in the movie. What are you 318 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: actually seeing when you're on set, what did they tell 319 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: you to look at or envision in your mind? They 320 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: were just point in directions. They were just pointing to 321 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: certain directions, and you know, we were just looking up 322 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: a lot they didn't have. There was very few times 323 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: that we had anything in the sky because it would 324 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: be too high. You know, a lot of times they'll 325 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: do in movies, you know, if there's something weird to 326 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: be right in front of you, scase on the pole, 327 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: or they'll have someone in the suit, or but it 328 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: was way too high up. So they would just tell us, 329 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, where to look, and and right before you 330 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: did the shot, you'd be in the truck and they're like, okay, 331 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: where is it? And you know, they say, okay, it's 332 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: around you know, ten o'clock, you know, straight ahead of midnight. 333 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: It's ten o'clock. And then up, you know, and then 334 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: you up. Okay, good, that looks good. Looks there, you know, 335 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: And that's what we would do, you know. And you 336 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: found a lot of in Oklahoma, right, yeah, ninth cent. 337 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: It was in uh Oklahoma, around some all around the 338 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: state of Oklahoma. So I remember Bill Paxton back in 339 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: when you were still alive, and he was talking about 340 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: possibly doing like a Twister three D version, and yeah, 341 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: what was there before? You know, we've lost Bill Paxton 342 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: and have some more half more since was there ever 343 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: a talk? I know there's a reboot happening now, but 344 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: was there ever a talk with the original cast to 345 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: do apart two? Bill had been pushing that for so long, 346 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: like he was trying to take meetings around town. And 347 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: I remember seeing him at the Writer's Strike in like 348 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and two. He has some three um and 349 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: we were talking about it. He just said, you know, 350 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: it's it's crazy because he said, there's never been a 351 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: huge blockbuster like that that doesn't get a sequel, Like 352 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: it was unheard of Jurassic Park, and I mean everything 353 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: that did that well always had some sort of a sequel. 354 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: So it was so he was going around pitching it, 355 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, all right, well, let's Twister hits 356 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: a big city, you know, and they'd have to kind 357 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: of call us them to try to help people, and 358 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, have the fun of like a wacky dealing 359 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: with straight La city scientists. You know that. I don't 360 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: know why it never got me. I mean, it could 361 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: be listening Bill and Helen didn't get along that well, 362 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: just because they were so so so different in the 363 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: way they were trained as actors and just there, you know, 364 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: approaches to life. She's definitely more quiet and reserved. He 365 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: was definitely gregarious or whatever, and then big and he 366 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: was so excited because he's been in the trenches for 367 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: a long time of being a side character and he 368 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: was finally getting a lead. You know, She's been a 369 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: lead on a big TV show and stuff like that. 370 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: So there were different points in their life, different philosophies 371 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: and things like that. So I don't know that had 372 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: something to do with it too. You know, it's still 373 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: weird to me because I think that's not a big deal. 374 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: They replaced people all the time. Hellen didn't want to 375 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: do it would be Bill and something else, so it 376 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: would just be Bill, um uh, or just Helen with 377 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: someone else, you know what I mean. Like, I don't 378 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: really know why they never did, but maybe it was 379 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: just because the tornadoes were expensive. I don't know. But 380 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: it was a huge hit. I mean, it made a 381 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: lot of money, like twenty five years later than saying 382 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: they're going to reboot it. I mean, I it makes 383 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: sense to me. I mean, listen, like I said, there's 384 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: a there's a big but I was drawing up in 385 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: the seventies. Everyone was into the fifties, you know, because 386 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: when we cock tops, when we had American graffiti in 387 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: the Happy Days and things like that, and we had 388 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: these lock morl Lob shows. There's always like this love 389 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: of twenty years earlier. So there's huge nineties love right 390 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: And now that studios are owned by big corporations, the 391 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: risk taking is a lot less, you know, so they 392 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: want to dive. It's a perfect time. It's perfect timing 393 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: because that's what people want, is these names that they know. 394 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: And in no way that I have known that Twitter 395 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: but so much to so many people until I started 396 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: doing conventions and doing these ticktoks and things like that. 397 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: In no way in the world. So it's great. At 398 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: number two, I'm putting the host of the Bobby Bones Show, 399 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: who also happens to be my friend Bobby Bones. And 400 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: what some people might not know is that he is 401 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: actually an actor. He was in a movie called Band 402 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: Slam from two thousand nine, and I got to ask 403 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: him all about that, and he's never really talked about 404 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: this movie before until this interview. I did an episode 405 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago about one Hit Wonder actors, 406 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: and you actually submitted yourself for band Slam. Yeah. Was 407 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: that on instag on Instagram story. So people may not know, 408 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: but back in two thousand nine you were in a 409 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: movie called Band Slam. So I had five questions for 410 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: you about that movie. That was two thousand nine, two nine. 411 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: I had that dopey hair at twenty nine years old. 412 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: Holy crap. Wow, Okay, go ahead, alright, So Band Slam 413 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: two thousand nine. Did you audition for it? Yeah? I did. Man, 414 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: I haven't thought about this since that. Wow, I did 415 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: audition for that movie. What was that? Like? Someone called 416 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: me and said, Hey, they're doing this movie. They're shooting 417 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: it in Austin because they can use the University of 418 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: Texas theater and music um and it was cheaper to 419 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: shoot movies and Texas at the time. Now Louisiana's a 420 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: big hub for movies. It was until recently. It's all 421 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: about taxes, right, That's why a lot of stuff is 422 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: in Canada. Yes, you can shoot it for less. So 423 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: they're like, they're shooting this, but they have a role 424 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: of a guy named Gordy, which was my name at first, 425 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: who hosts the big competition. You have some lines you're 426 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: it's like at the time, it was like nineteen lines. 427 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: He got cut weight down to nine and I think 428 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: by the time it was over. But you have like 429 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: nineteen lines. But they need someone who's like, you know, 430 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: in his twenties and it's cool. And I was like, well, 431 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: it's not. So I went and there was a long 432 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: line wrapped around the building of guys that were good looking, 433 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: like lots of hair, jail, lots of the actor type. Uh. 434 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: And so I went to pair of jeans and a 435 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: white T shirt because I didn't know what I was doing. 436 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: I thought. I remember thinking I was gonna be the 437 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: only one the audition because I thought they just had 438 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: it ready for me. I was like, oh, I gotta 439 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: vide to do this movie. It was a bunch of people. 440 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: So I went into this room. This is just a 441 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: room like a bedroom at a house, and there were 442 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: two people sitting behind the long table and they're like, okay, 443 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: rigel lines. I didn't memorize mine. I guess most people 444 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: did because I'm a script in my hand, and so 445 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, can you believe they're gonna play 446 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: the show here this one man, they're never gonna And 447 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: they were like, all right, thank you very much, and 448 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: I left. That was it. I never thought I was 449 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: gonna get a call back because it didn't go well 450 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: in the room. I thought because they showed me no emotion, nothing, 451 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: it was like, wow, that was great. They didn't say 452 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: it was great, it was good. It was like, all right, 453 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: thanks a lot. Now walking I was like, dang, I 454 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: almost really sucked. And they called me back and they said, hey, 455 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: you're one of the best ones. Come back again. I 456 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: went back again. I was the only person there at 457 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: the second time. I think they were they just had 458 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: to spread out a little more. And I got a 459 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: call and said, hey, you're in, and you're considered because 460 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: you have this many many lines. You're a principal actor. 461 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: And so I had my own trailer I had. I 462 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: was on the biggest level with the lowest amount of 463 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: work and money, like I was if in the a 464 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: lest part of that movie. It was Vanessa Hudgens, it 465 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: was Lesta Coudrophebe from Friends. It was Scott who was 466 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: in Friday Night Lights. I forgot Scott's last name. Um 467 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: So there were these actors and of the A Principles, 468 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: I was the bottom of the barrel, but I was 469 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: higher than all the extras and mids. So I had 470 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: my own umbrella carrier to make sure my makeup when 471 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: sweat ahead got on my clothes. I had a trailer. 472 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: It was crazy. I got paid three or four thousand 473 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: dollars a day for about seven days. I remember making 474 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: about twenty dollars on that movie for a week's work. 475 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't what they made obvious, 476 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: but that's what I got. You still get checks from it, Yeah, 477 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: but it's like, yeah, three cents, twelve cents. Sometimes I'll 478 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: get a dollar tin or something like that. So that 479 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: that was that movie. How many days did you actually film? 480 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: A week? I mean it was a week straight or 481 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: the thing that stunk was again, I was a principle. 482 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: So they kept us all together. We ate together, and 483 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: again I didn't know anybody because I wasn't a real actor. 484 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know any of them, so they didn't really 485 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: let me in their cool group. And they would all 486 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: pretty much all the principles, like all right, we're gonna 487 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: go play Supernintendo and we're gonna have this party. I 488 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: was never invited anything, um, because they didn't know me. 489 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: And I also had the radio shows, so I did 490 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: the radio show all morning and go straight over so 491 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: some of the bonding stuff it was late at night 492 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't go to anyway. But I never really got 493 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 1: invited to do anything. Did you end up meeting all 494 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: the co stars? Yeah, at least Couch was really nice. 495 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: We sat in the makeup chair beside each other for 496 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: like an hour one day and she was super nice. 497 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: It was really going. She played the mom on that 498 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: that movie. Um, it's one of the only time we spoke. 499 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I met her BESTA. Hudgens was okay. Um 500 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: the Scott I wish I was last name, but he was. 501 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: He was really nice. Are you surprised that it has 502 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: rating on Run Tomatoes? Wow? Um, I'm I was surprised 503 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: that it when it came out that it didn't make 504 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: more at the box office because I don't think it 505 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: did well. I made five million opening weekend and twelve 506 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: million throughout the run while it was up. Okay, so 507 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: you're talking about we didn't do that well financially, but 508 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: it kept getting shown everywhere every time I let's see, uh, 509 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: like a weekend of rare weird movies on Disney. That 510 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: would be like showing movies. It would pop up. That's 511 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: why I first I saw it on TV and I 512 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: will get checks on it would air on TB, so 513 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: it would for some reason. It still airs now occasional 514 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: because people keep sending me pictures of me with my 515 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: big curly hair. Yeah. Sometimes movie channels will repick it 516 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: back up and put it into rotation, which sometimes people say, 517 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: like these movies bomb, but they end up making money 518 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: back when they get put into syndication and stuff like that. Well, 519 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: this was no big financial risk for the movie makers. 520 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean, for making a movie was expensive, I'm sure, 521 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: but I'm saying it wasn't like a hundred million dollar movie. 522 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: It's million. It wasn't water World. Yeah. Um so yeah, 523 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: that was fun. I forgot it has been a long time, 524 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: and then, um, would you ever do another movie? It's 525 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: just the time you have to be on set and 526 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: shoot things ten eleven, twelve times. I'm sure it'll be 527 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: tough to do it right now, but I could if 528 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: it was the right. Do you get offered stuff, some 529 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: small stuff, but I don't put myself in the mix 530 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: for it. Either you mostly have to audition. Even some 531 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: of the big actors have to go on auditions for stuff, 532 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: and so I don't get offered stuff. No, as far 533 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: as movies that people would see, but I do get 534 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: offered to go audition for stuff, and I just never 535 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: want to go do it. The only things I could 536 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: offered her like super Indika type stuff. Can they just 537 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: want anyone to be in it will promote it. So 538 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: that's like, hey, let's get buy a real because if 539 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: he talks about it, people might see it. So the 540 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: answer is no, not really. All right, Well, there we 541 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: go a big movie stars first actor. Nice and at 542 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: number one, I'm putting one of my most recent interviews. 543 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: It's with Christie Carlson Romano, who you would know from 544 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: Even Steven's Cadet Kelly. She's also the voice of Kim 545 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: Possible and Even Stevens was one of my favorite shows 546 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: that's growing up, and I brought her on from my 547 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: episode about Disney Channel original movies and got to ask 548 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: her all my questions about that. Basically my thirteen year 549 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: old self living out his dreams. So here's that conversation. 550 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it now. Even Steven's the movie and 551 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: I actually rewatched it last night. It's my favorite Disney 552 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: Channel original movie. And I felt like at the core 553 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: of this movie, it's kind of the coming age, coming 554 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: of age story of Wren, and I feel like I 555 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: was kind of inspired by the character again watching this 556 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: again as an adult. But I wonder if you get 557 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: messages from people saying that like Wren was a role 558 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: model to them always always, I always always get that, 559 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: you know, and that to me is so important and 560 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 1: now more than anything having daughter, that is huge for 561 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: me to because knowing that that legacy is out there 562 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: is all I could really hope for. And so when 563 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: I find ironic is when people say, like, you know, 564 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: oh well, we're not gonna we don't necessarily want to 565 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: come on the show because or this is a pass 566 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: like you know, the people that you think, wow, they're 567 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: going to really want to be on the show, and 568 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: then they just immediately pass on it. Um. I'm not 569 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: sure why they pass on it, because it always seems 570 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: like a really healthy, fun show to do, but it's 571 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: one would think that maybe it's because they don't necessarily 572 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: want to have to talk about stuff like in the 573 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: past and again, for me, legacy is something really special 574 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: and if you don't kind of like nurture that legacy, 575 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: then what are you? What have you really accomplished? Exactly? 576 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: So I felt like you and Shia, like your relationship 577 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: thorout the entire sharies of course, with you guys butting heads, 578 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: but it really kind of all comes out in this movie. 579 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: You guys work so closely together. Did he ever feel 580 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: like a like a real life brother to you? Oh? 581 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean we didn't. We're not in touch anymore. And 582 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: he's a very different person now than he was when 583 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: he was a child. Um, and I never really knew 584 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: him on the personal side, but when we were at 585 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: were it was encouraged for us to be sort of 586 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: relating to one another as if we were really brother 587 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: and sister. And I think because we had such like 588 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: vastly different upbringings, uh and vastly different world views. I 589 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: really do think that that kind of helped our our 590 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: on screen industry for sure. So you're saying if they 591 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: made like a Honeyboy style version of your life, it 592 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: would be a lot different, right, Oh right, totally? I 593 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: mean yeah, Unfortunately, I actually really didn't know that all 594 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: of that was going on. I didn't realize that Shia 595 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: lived in a hotel like I had. I had no 596 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: knowledge of any of that happening, And so that just 597 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: shows you how different of a life teenagers can have. 598 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: Like I just was kind of only concerned with myself 599 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: and my my trying to get into college and trying 600 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: to remember my lines, and like we all had our 601 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: own struggle. So this served as the series finale of 602 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: Even Stevens. And did you know about like the sixty 603 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: five episode limit when you started the show, I did 604 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: not really understand much. I started at sixteen, so syndication 605 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: wasn't a word I learned until probably halfway through shooting. 606 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 1: And then you know, at that point I was I 607 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: was considering what my next moves were going to be. 608 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: I think at a certain point you say yourself, Okay, 609 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: this is great, but my agents and stuff want me 610 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: to come off of the series and do something bigger. 611 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: So there was pressures that started to hit right around 612 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: the halfway points. So then three, You've got the Kim 613 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: Possible movie. How did you kind of make that jump 614 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: from being in front of the camera to doing voice acting? 615 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: So basically, again with the synergy right. I think that 616 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: they had seen that connect Kelly did really well, so 617 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: I think that kind of put me in the forefront 618 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: of everybody's mind to cast me in something Why vocal, 619 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I never saw myself as 620 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: a voice actor. Prior to that, I really had only 621 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: done musical theater where I sang. I think we had, 622 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, um, a musical episode on Even Stevens that 623 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: was really popular. Um. But I'm pretty sure I had 624 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: been doing impossible before that, So I think that they 625 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: just I was on a short list of actresses. You know, 626 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: there was definitely some interesting actresses on that list, and 627 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: the producers chose me. I think that the producers felt 628 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: that not only was I synergistic internally to Disney in corporate, 629 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: but I was the best bit because I was the 630 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: age of the character, and from what I was told 631 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: by the producers and the creators was that I was 632 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: able to match the intent, the sarcasm and mix it 633 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: also with the action that she needs to be able 634 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: to do. So I'm I'm very happy that that worked 635 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: out in my favor. And when you did the Kim 636 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: Possible voice like, was there other kind of like interpretations 637 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: of it that you tried before landing on the final voice. 638 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: I think that it was very much my voice. I 639 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: think that Kimpossible is still very much my voice. But 640 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: now when I tried to do her voice for you know, 641 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: people and voicemails and just fun things in general, for charity, 642 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: I can put it on. Um, I can do it. Uh, 643 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: It's not my voice anymore. But I definitely think when 644 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: I was younger it was it was a version of 645 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: my voice, and then I kind of just kind of 646 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: had to tailor it to what she became. I think 647 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: over time it became sort of this more, more and 648 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,239 Speaker 1: more iconic version of what a teenage girl sounded like. 649 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: So if you had pick your favorite Disney Channel movie, 650 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: what would it be? Oh goodness, that's really hard. There's 651 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: so so so many don't know my Goodness, I mean, 652 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: my girl, Halloween Town, Tim Brown. I mean, I've I've 653 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 1: always loved I mean, and I think some of their 654 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: newer stuff good. You know. I think I think High 655 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: School Musical did a lot for you know, kids being 656 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: able to appreciate musical theater, and I think that's really great. 657 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think that high school Musical is I 658 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's my favorite, but I do think that 659 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: it was important and that it was good and they 660 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: and I also really like there's another movie that came 661 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: out a long time ago called The Color of Friendship 662 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: that won a lot of awards for Disney Channel, and 663 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: I think that was about inclusion and it was about 664 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: a South African girl who comes to America and um, 665 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: she becomes friends with someone in her school who is 666 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: African American, and there's just all these themes that are 667 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: being talked about for young Queen they call him tweens, 668 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: and these are conversations that were being had in like 669 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: the early early two thousands. So I do think that 670 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: Disney has made an effort to have some harder, difficult 671 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 1: conversations through their concept. So there we go. Those are 672 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: my top five interviews of I like to do more 673 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: of those coming up in Be sure to listen next 674 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: week when I do my top five movies of my 675 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: definite list of the best things that came out last year. 676 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: Thanks again for being subscribed to the podcast. You can 677 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: send me an email. I'm at movie Mike d at 678 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Do you have any suggestions for the 679 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: show or just want to throw out a topic, or 680 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: maybe even there's somebody you think I should interview for 681 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: the podcast next year. Hit me up there too, and again, 682 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: I am on Twitter and Instagram and all the places 683 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: at Mike Destro. I will talk to you guys next 684 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: Monday here on the podcast. Thanks so much for listening. 685 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: I hope your one turns out to be so much 686 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: better than twenty And until then later