1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason MacIntire. What is up. 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 3: Straight Firefam, It's me Jason MacIntire, Straight Fire for Wednesday, 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: October twenty fifth, Ladies and gentlemen, What a night in sports, 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: and not just because I went to a girl's volleyball 6 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: match with my daughter, her first. You know, she's playing 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 3: club volleyball this season, so her team went to check 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: out a volleyball match. 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: Our local high. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: School team is ridiculously good and they stomp someone. So 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: it was good to get in some girls volleyball. While 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: I was there, I was sneaking some Lakers on my phone, 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: sneaking some Phillies. Oh man, listen. I know we don't 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: do a ton of baseball in this podcast, but what 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: a gut wrenching loss by the Phillies. So they lead 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks two to zero in the series, they lose 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: Game three, they're up five two in Game four in 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: the seventh I think collapse, lose. Then they go up 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: three to two and they're going home for the final 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: two games. You're like, okay, they got this, and the 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: Philadelphia Phillies end up losing four to two and it's 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: like over. 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: No more. 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: Bryce Harper. No more exciting bombs at Citizens Bank, just 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: a disappointing loss. You've got to be pretty crestfallen if 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: you're a Philadelphia Phillies fan. That's just a devastating defeat. 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: And now the World Series is set. The Arizona Diamondbacks 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: will face the Texas Rangers. Yeah, that's the World Series, 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: all right, So onto the NBA. NBA began last night. 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: I'm recording this after Lakers Nuggets. It's currently halftime of 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: Warriors Sons. Sons look good, but you know the Warriors 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: will come back, and so listen. It's game one of 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: eighty two. It's a marathon, okay, it is not a sprint. 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: I don't I don't even think I'm gonna click on 36 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: the hot takes when I see him. Game one of 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: eighty two, okay, And Lebron appears to be on a 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: minute's restriction. He only played twenty nine minutes. Like if 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: there's a playoff game, Lebron's pushing thirty eight forty forty 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 3: two minutes. 41 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: Okay, twenty nine minutes. 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: Lebron ten for sixteen, shooting twenty one points, eight rebounds, 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: five assists. 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: I can't believe he's still this good. 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: He was the best player on the court for the Lakers, 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: and of course, listen, Lakers, he's thirty eight years old. 47 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, thirty nine in December, so he's almost thirty nine. 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: Lebron was phenomenal and it wasn't enough because the Denver Nuggets, 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: the defending champs, are stacked. They have the indominable Nikola 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: Jokic another trip dubbed for him twenty nine, thirteen, and eleven. 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: They have the great shooting of Jamal Murray. And if 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: it's not Murray, it's my MPJA. But it's not MPJ, 53 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: it's KCP. If it's not KCP, it's Zeke Naji. Like 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: I mean, they got guys up, up and down the roster, 55 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson coming in, Peyton Watson, the young kid out 56 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: of UCLA, Like Denver's just got dudes. Now, I still 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: maintain I said this on the Herd and some people 58 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: came after me online. 59 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: That's what people do. 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: One to ten. I think the Lakers roster is tops 61 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: in the league in terms of talent one through ten. Now, 62 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: teams like Boston have sacrificed depth for top heavy talent. 63 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: Same with Milwaukee. Same with Phoenix, like one to six 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: they're better, okay, but you start going to ten and 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: then it's like, well, what matters more, Jason, depth which 66 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: helped Denver greatly last year, or top end scoring well 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: Denver as the top end, they don't need the depth 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: and in the regular season, you know depth will matter 69 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: come playoffs. What's the great pat Riley line. You play eight, 70 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: but you trust seven, or you play eight but or 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: you play trust seven but you trust six. He's famous 72 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: for saying it with the Lakers back in the eighties. 73 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, like, the Lakers have a great deep team, 74 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: but sadly, you're not gonna win any games against any 75 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: elite teams. When Anthony Davis makes zero baskets in the 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: second half, zero for six ad second half, Like, I know, 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: Austin Reeves was not incredible, minus fourteen, D'Angelo Russell was okay. 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: Torrian Prince was, I mean he was great. 79 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: You know, Ruie Hattimore didn't play great. 80 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: It's game one. 81 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: We're not gonna overreact. But I'll say this, Anthony Davis, 82 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 3: bro you just got a fatty contract. 83 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: Okay. 84 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 3: Lebron is saying you're the guy. The franchise is yours. 85 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: And you're six for seventeen and you don't make a 86 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: basket in the second half. Like, I know you're facing Jokic, 87 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 3: but don't you want to face the best. To be 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: the best, you gotta beat the best, and right now 89 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: Jokic is better than ad I don't know. I just 90 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 3: disappointing performance from Anthony Davis all around. You know, it's 91 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: good to have the NBA back. I saw, Well, let 92 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: me wrap up before I move on on the uh 93 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: on the Nuggets, before I move on to like the 94 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: pregame stuff with Barkley, I did want to say, you know, 95 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: like it's gonna take some time for the Lakers to 96 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: gel right. So they have one new starter in Torrian Prints, 97 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: and they now played Christian Wood off the bench. Cam 98 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: Reddish got a lot of minutes, gave Vinson got a 99 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 3: lot of minutes. Jackson Hayes is working his way to 100 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: the rotation. Like this is the tinkering stage. You look 101 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: at Denver. I'm fairly like Zeke Nagi was on the 102 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 3: team last year, Peyton Watson was on the team last year, 103 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson was on the team, Christian Brown Like there's 104 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 3: not a lot of newness there. The Nuggets are gonna 105 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: be very, very good. We know that that's not new 106 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 3: a team like the Phoenix Suns, they've got a lot 107 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: of new guys. The Warriors they have one new guy 108 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 3: and Chris Paul. But like when you've got to work 109 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: in all these new guys. 110 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: It's like it's gonna take some time, you know. 111 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 3: So yeah, anyways, so that you know, I don't need 112 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: to go fifteen minutes on the Lakers on Opening Night, 113 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 3: but I just thought I would hit that. We actually 114 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: have a great guest today college football, Brett McMurphy. It's 115 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: on the Jim Harbaugh saga. Like Rob g and I 116 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: discussed whether or not we should work into yesterday's pod 117 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: the Jim Harbaugh sign stealing stuff, and we said, you 118 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: know what, We'll do the NBA preview recap Niners Vikings, 119 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: and we'll save Harbaugh for Wednesday. So McMurphy and I 120 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: dive in. He's got some conspiracy theories. 121 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 2: I love Brett m murphy. 122 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: Really sharp guy, been around the business. We have some 123 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 3: disagreements on quarterbacks at the next level, but overall, brettm 124 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: murphy is just an oracle for knowledge on college football. 125 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: Really plugged into all the big programs. I think you'll 126 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: really enjoy the interview. The one other thing I guess 127 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: I would talk about in the NBA is this, you know, 128 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, you know, the NBA has decided, you 129 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: know what, we got to have our guys play and 130 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: not sit out, no load management. And it's I guess 131 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: technically it's not whatever reason, it's, hey, we've got a 132 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: TV deal coming up. Everybody wins if everybody plays, and 133 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: even if there is some chicanery and not everybody plays. 134 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: What if we had the big vocal guys, Charles Barkley. 135 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, what if we had Charles. 136 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: Barkley go after the players say they gotta play. Now, 137 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: Barkley has been beating this drum forever. Screw load management. 138 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: These guys are getting paid sixty million bucks and they're playing, 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: you know, half the season. 140 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: This is pathetic. Blah blah blah. Barkley went in. 141 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: Before the season opening game. Now he knew, you know, 142 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: season openers, large TV audience. 143 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: Barkley knew what he was doing. 144 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: And it's a strategic move. And listen, on some level, 145 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: I agree with Charles Barkley, Yes, you need guys to play. 146 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: Here's the problem. This ain't the NFL where there are 147 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: seventeen games and then the playoffs. Okay, four months playoffs. 148 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: The NBA season is eighty two games. It is in 149 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 3: the modern era unthinkable for players to play at this pace, 150 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: to play all these games. And remember, kids are playing way, way, 151 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: way more AAU basketball coming up than they did back 152 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: in the eighties and the nineties. The AAU levels are 153 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: insane right now, and it's almost like the bodies are 154 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: breaking down earlier. And I'm sorry, Charles Barkley, but here's 155 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: the reality. Yes, I want to see guys in the 156 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: regular season, but you know what, I want to see 157 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: more the best players healthy for the playoffs. And every 158 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: year we see this where it's like, oh, Chris Paul 159 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: goes down once again, and Kevin Durant's out and Kyrie 160 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: Irving's hurt. And sure we could say, well, they're always 161 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: hurting the playoffs. Yeah, well, it can't just be that 162 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: they're breaking down because it's April, May June. 163 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: They need to lessen the workload. That's the only theory. 164 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: When you're overused on anything, you got to scale it back. 165 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: And as much as I love Lebron in the regular season, 166 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: I'm okay with him, just play twenty nine minutes and 167 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: not overreacting to an October loss to the Nuggets. The 168 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: reality is, these guys need to be healthy for the playoffs. Yes, 169 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: the NBA needs a massive TV deal, and after this 170 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: year they can go back to not complaining about load 171 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: management because the networks I've already coughed up the money 172 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: and the ink is dry. Here's the reality. I don't 173 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: think they're gonna get the number they want anyway, even 174 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: if they try this whole non load management crap. Folks, 175 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 3: We're at the end of an era. The Lebron run 176 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: is ending. The Steph Curry run isn't over, but it's 177 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: close to the end. The Kevin Durant run doesn't have 178 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: much left in the next three years. I mean, Lebron 179 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: will be retired. I think it's safe to assume Kevin 180 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: Durant and Steph Curry will probably but be in their 181 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: final year. And then we're gonna be onto the next generation. 182 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: And you know what the problem is with the next generation, 183 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: And no, it's not that they don't play, it's that 184 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: they're not healthy or they're getting in trouble off the court. 185 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: Jah Moran Zion Williamson cannot stay healthy. Victor Wambanyama better 186 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: stay healthy. I'm more excited to Okay, so there's no 187 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: no football tonight, but I'm gonna I'll be clear with you, guys, 188 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 3: I am beyond stoked to watch Victor wembin Yama. 189 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: Is he a teenager of twenty I don't even know. 190 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: He's a young kid. And he is playing in his 191 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: NBA debut tonight against the Mavericks on ESPN. As luck 192 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: would have it, my daughter's soccer practice ends right at 193 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: the time this game's starting. I will be racing home. 194 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: And to get Luca and wembin Yama on the second 195 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: night of the season is just magical. I'm super excited 196 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: for it. I cannot tell you how much I'm excited 197 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: to watch wembin Yama. Like, listen, I like the Kings, folks. 198 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: Just for the record, I'm not betting any games. I'm sorry. 199 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: I'm still locked in on NFL. I'm not gonna betting 200 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: games right now. Sorry, NBA. As much as I love it, 201 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna betting games. Like I'm excited for Celtics, 202 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: Like sure, that's gonna be good. LaMelo ball yay, Like 203 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: it's about womenI alma, so I can't wait for that tonight. Anyways, 204 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: you know what else you can't wait for? 205 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: Brett McMurphy from the Action Network. 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He doesn't, he knows a guy who does. 226 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 227 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: guy who knows another guy. 228 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. 229 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 3: A guy you know if you follow any of college football, 230 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: Brett McMurphy. He's covered the sport for geez at least 231 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: two decades, probably longer, and he's currently at the Action Network, 232 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: does a lot of gambling, breaking news. 233 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: Brett McMurphy, how you doing, man. 234 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: Good to catch up with you again, Jason. It's been 235 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: a while. 236 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: It has been a while, and there's a lot of 237 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: stuff happening in college football. So you know, I was 238 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: talking with Rob the producer. I'm like, who should we get. 239 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I gotta go back to Brett McMurphy. 240 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Let's 241 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: just dive right in this Jim Harball sign stealing thing. 242 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: First. 243 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: I want your opinion on it, not. 244 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: Necessarily what you're hearing, just your thought thoughts on it 245 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: before we dig into you know, what other coaches are 246 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: saying and everything. 247 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: From what I'm hearing it, I don't think there's any 248 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: doubt that Michigan knew that this guy was obtaining information 249 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: from them. However, I will say, even if that's the case, 250 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: unless somebody at Michigan flips on Michigan, how is the 251 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: NCAA going to prove it. Yes, the guy bought tickets, Yeah, 252 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: the guy was at games, he held a video camera 253 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: and all that. That's great. But unless he admits to 254 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: the NCAAA, yeah I gave this information to Harbor, Jim 255 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: Harbaugh knew about it, or Jim Harbaugh comes out and says, yeah, 256 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: I was complicit in this. Harbaugh's already put out a 257 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: statement said he has no knowledge of this. So ultimately, 258 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, we know how fast the NCAA moves on things. 259 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: Basically a glacier is faster. So probably by the time 260 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: the NCAA rules on this will probably be Harbaugh's second 261 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: year as the Bears coach. So it's kind I thought 262 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: you'd like that. It's going to generate headlines. There's going 263 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: to be a lot of you know, give them the 264 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: death penalty. It's like, give me a break. But yeah, 265 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: if you love Michigan, nothing to see here. Everybody does it. 266 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: It's driving seventy and fifty five. If you're an anti 267 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Michigan fan, It's like, here's another example of Michigan skirting 268 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: the rules and the Big Ten the NCAA has to 269 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: step in and do something. And one last thing, Jason, Oh, 270 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: by the way, there, I don't see any way the 271 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: NCAA could like people are like, well, they should be 272 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: ineligible for the playoffs this year? Are you are you 273 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: kidding me? First, the Big Ten would never ever go 274 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: for that. Why because how many millions of dollars would 275 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: the conference lose? That ain't happening. And also, what makes 276 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: this tricky is, yes, technically it's against the NCAA rules, 277 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: there's really no penalty outlined on if you do break 278 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: this rule. So what is it vacer to win? You 279 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: lose some scholarships? I don't know. Look, it'll give us 280 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: plenty to talk about until it's resolved. But yeah, ultimately 281 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: I really don't think there will be significant penalties for Michigan. 282 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: Okay, that sounds reasonable. 283 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: Now here's what I think is more interesting. So, Brett, 284 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: if everybody's doing this and it's not a huge deal, 285 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: why Michigan and why Harba who's coming after him? 286 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: And why there are some conspiracy theorists, not myself, but 287 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: they have floated this idea to me, this is I'm 288 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: not reporting this. You ask my opinion, I'm giving you 289 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: my opinion. Uh, who is Michigan pissed off? Recently the 290 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: NCAAA Michigan knocked down. They're four game suspension to three games. 291 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, the NCAA put out a statement, this is 292 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: about more than a cheeseburger. This is more than about 293 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: more than a hamburg. The NCAA never comments about any 294 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: of this stuff. They commented about Harbaugh. So Harbaugh, some 295 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: people think embarrassed the NCAAA. So what's the NCAA gonna do. Well, 296 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: They're going to leak this information that they know, you 297 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: know it's going on, so it gets blasted by the media, 298 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: and then the fallout of all that. And you know, 299 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: if you're a Seinfeld fan like me, if you're not 300 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: well in this conversation, but if you're a Seinfeld fan 301 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: like me, you remember the episode where Jerry returns a 302 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: jacket for SPIKEE. I think the NCAA is doing this 303 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: for SPIKEE, despite Michigan, despite Harbaugh, because of their previous interactions. 304 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: And then you know, then everybody gives you their hot 305 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: takes on death penalty or nothing to see move along 306 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: and then we see where this sends up. 307 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: So I know that's just a conspiracy theory, but you 308 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: don't think this originated, would say a Michigan State trying 309 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: to deflect away from their really really ugly situation with 310 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: their coach, Ohio State Ryan Day, now has lost to 311 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: Michigan a couple of years in a row. 312 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: They'll get a little. 313 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: Dicey there for Ryan Day. You don't think this was 314 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: a big ten issue brought to the NCAA. 315 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: Do you mean specific one of those teams. Yeah, I 316 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: mean that's that's a possibility, but yeah, that's basically what 317 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: I was. If one of those teams brought that to 318 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: the NCAAA, the NCAA's got that information and then they're like, hey, 319 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: let's leak this out to the media to make Michigan 320 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: look bad and then get the ball rolling on whatever 321 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: else would happen instead of instead of keeping the the 322 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: I guess if it is an investigation and investigation quiet 323 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: until they got to the point where they said, look, 324 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: we've got evidence, We're going to move along. This is 325 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. But instead, you know, now all 326 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: Michigan's dirty laundry is being aired, and probably nobody happier 327 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: about that than Big ten teams and the NCAAA. 328 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: It's just like the equivalent of like a purp walk, 329 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: where they, you know, the cops just want to hate. 330 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna make a show of it. We're gonna embarrass 331 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: the guy. 332 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: We're gonna put him in cuffs, walk in with the 333 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: TV cameras and make them look bad. Do you think 334 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: this makes Harball look bad? Or are people just scoffing? 335 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: Jason, I, I I really believe this. If you are 336 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: a Michigan fan, Michigan is like, this is nothing. It 337 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: doesn't make them look bad. If you're a not non 338 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: Michigan fan, then absolutely, Oh here's another instance of Harbaugh. 339 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: You know. So yeah again, that's where That's where everything 340 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: is nowadays, you know, whether it's sports or any other 341 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, entertainment politics. If you if you are one side, 342 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: then you're gonna support that side until the better, better end, 343 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: and if you're not, you're not. So I don't necessarily 344 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: think it makes them look bad. You know. Matt Ruhle 345 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: had some great comments. The Nebraska coach Deon Sanders an 346 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: it about it. You know, I said, Look, if if 347 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: you tell me you're running a sweep, I still got 348 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: to stop it. You know, there's a reason coaches hold 349 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: up the clipboard in front of their in front of 350 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: their face. There's a reason you've got three different quarterbacks 351 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: signaling in plays. It's not just Michigan. But again, if 352 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: there is a rule and you break it, you still 353 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: broke the rule. If the speed limits and you're going 354 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: fifty five and everybody's going seventy, it's still a violation. Again, 355 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: it just depends on what side of the fence you're on. 356 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: So Michigan's been pretty dominant this year. Some people take 357 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: to the best team in the country. I have a 358 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: ticket on them from the summer to win the Natty. 359 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: That's the only team I bet one. What's your neighbas. 360 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: Uh, it's not great. 361 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: I actually have all my future tickets in a safe 362 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: and I don't look at them to the end of 363 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: the season. I'm nerdy like that. You don't want to 364 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 3: say it sounds very I can't believe. 365 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: I guarantee you it's two for one, which is probably 366 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: what they're at now plus two. 367 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah right now, well now they look good. 368 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: But I do want to ask Is this the kind 369 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: of distraction Brett that maybe messes up the good stuff 370 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: that is going on at Michigan. They just clobbered Sparti 371 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 3: forty nine nothing. JJ McCarthy looks great. Do you think 372 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 3: this could be a distraction for hardball and the Wolverines. 373 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I think the opposite. It gets, 374 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, us against the world. Everybody's calling us out, 375 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: everybody's accusing us of all this. You know, we know 376 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: that we don't need this to win. We're the best 377 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: team in the country. And it'll know, Jason, I actually 378 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: think the opposite. I think they'll use it is fuel 379 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: because again, the elite teams, the Michigan, Ohio States, the Alabamas, 380 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: et cetera. They've got to come up with motivation because 381 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, ninety percent of the games they play they're 382 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: supposed to win. And you know human nature, you know, 383 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: I know you, I know you can ball. So you 384 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: go out and play some hoop. You know you're playing 385 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: an opponent that you're going to crush. Ah, you're kind 386 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: of going through the motions a little bit. You're going 387 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: to get somebody's that's tough. You're gonna raise your game 388 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, or try to at least, so I think 389 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: these guys, you know, kind of use the same thing. 390 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, why why else in the world would Ryan 391 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: Day call out lou Holtz, you know, to rally his team. 392 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: You know, look, lou Holtz doesn't believe in US. He's 393 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: calling our team soft. So yeah, I think Michigan will 394 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: use this to their advantage. 395 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 3: It's interesting you've made now made two comments about like 396 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 3: us against the world, Ohio State and Michigan. There's a 397 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: political feel to it, almost you're either with us or 398 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: you're against us. Do you think that there is something 399 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: to that where it's like, hey, guys, we'll create like 400 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan would create these fictitious scenarios. This guy talked 401 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: trash to me. I want to give him sixty even 402 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: though he might have said nothing. Do you think these 403 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 3: coaches are kind of using that as motivation? I never 404 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: thought of that as like a tactic, but maybe that's 405 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: a thing now in college football. 406 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely for college football, and since people can't view the 407 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: video of US, my favorite line is you're either with 408 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: us or you're against us. You know. Yeah, so Kirby 409 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: Smart Earlier this year, they're playing South Carolina. One of 410 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: the South Carolina kids had an innocent throwaway comment at 411 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: media day. He's asking about the toughest places to play 412 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: in the SEC, and he mentioned a couple of places. 413 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: He did not mention Georgia. God forbid, he didn't mention Georgia. 414 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: So they're getting ready to play Georgia that week, and 415 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart brings up, well, you know, he must not 416 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: think it's very tough to play here at Georgia. Hopefully 417 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: our fans will come and show up and prove him 418 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: wrong or whatever. It's like they're creating these narratives to 419 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: get these teams geared up, because you know, I think 420 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: more than certainly more than the NFL. I think college 421 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: games are decided obviously by talent, but motivation is such 422 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: a huge factor too. I mean, you just look this 423 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: past week. What happened to Washington after Oregon they almost 424 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: lost Arizona State. What happened to owe you in Texas 425 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: two weeks after they played They both barely survive. So 426 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot more roller coaster of emotions with college athletes. 427 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: So that's why these coaches are using every little tidbit 428 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: they can, every little true or you know, true or 429 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: perceived motivation to get their guys cranked up. 430 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: All right? 431 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: Last one on Michigan. You joked earlier about Harbor and 432 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: the Bear's job. You know, the NCAA is kind of 433 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: coming down on him. He's just dealing with his nonsense. 434 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: He's got a stacked class of guys who are going 435 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 3: to go to the NFL. I don't want to say 436 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 3: the Cupbod's gonna be bere but this is the year 437 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: if Michigan's gonna do it. 438 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: Do you think he leaves for the NFL? 439 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 3: And what would be your best guess at a job? 440 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, again, just not reporting speculation. I would would I 441 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: would say, yeah, he would probably go. I think I'm 442 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: not alone in this. I think most people didn't think 443 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 1: that he would actually be at Michigan this long. And 444 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that it's this situation with the NCAA. 445 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: I just think it's more with the way the college 446 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: job is changing. You're dealing with nil headaches, the transfer portal. 447 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: You know, you're you know it used to be there 448 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: were limitations when you would recruit players, and now you 449 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: know it's basically open game twenty four to seven. I 450 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: know they've rolled back the transfer portal windows. But it's just, 451 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's literally no off time for college coaches 452 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: and you're dealing with a lot more headaches. Where the NFL, 453 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: you go and you coach football, and that's all you do. 454 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: You coach football. So I think, you know, because of 455 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: his past in the NFL, I just always even when 456 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: he got to Michigan, I thought he would eventually end 457 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: up in the NFL. And certainly if he go out 458 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: winning a national title, I mean, what a better way 459 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 1: to go out. You know. I've talked to some people 460 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: close to the program, and they think that if he 461 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: did do that, he certainly does not want to leave Michigan. 462 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: Bear. 463 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: He's not going to just like bolt in the dead 464 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: of the night and leave them with nothing there and 465 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: take his entire staff with him to the NFL. But 466 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: I think I think there could be a very real 467 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: scenario where Jim Harbass in the NFL next year and 468 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: then you know, takes a number of people with him, 469 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: but keeps a number of people there. 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But first of all, is that even 508 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: a great job right now? 509 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: It's a great job because it's in the Big ten 510 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: and you're gonna make more money than ninety percent of 511 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: the coaches in the rest of the country. The challenge 512 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: is with Oregon, Washington, USC, and UCLA coming into the conference, 513 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: there's more bodies that you got to climb over to 514 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: get near the top. Plus you know Michigan and Ohio State, 515 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: Penn State. But yeah, there were people that there were 516 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: people that will want that job. I had heard, you know, 517 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: after the after he was officially that Tucker was officially fired, 518 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: that they were looking for somebody with with Michigan State 519 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: ties either coach there played there a number of people. 520 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: The exception of that was Mike Elko at at Duke 521 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: for the job. He's done there. I don't look Urban Meyer. Yeah, 522 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: I saw those reports. I just don't see it happening. 523 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't see it happening on that level. We all 524 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: know what's what Urban has in his passed Urban says 525 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: he's done coaching college. We'll see if he's telling the 526 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: truth this time. But yeah, I don't buy Urban. 527 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: Maero Michigan State and the last spicy Big ten one 528 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: is the Ryan Day perpetually on the hot seat this year. Yeah, 529 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: I still go back to that Notre Dame game. I 530 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: think it was a jet sweep forth down call in 531 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: the red zone. And I mean my phone lit up 532 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 3: with it. That's it, that's enough. I'm done with Ryan 533 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: Day from from Ohio State. Fans like they were done 534 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: and they get lucky in that win. But I don't know, 535 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: it just feels like he can't win there right now, 536 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: like for whatever whatever you could do, he's just not winning. 537 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 3: And that I mean like winning the fans over. But 538 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: I do think he's an interesting name for the NFL 539 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: given his offensive background. I know it hasn't looked awesome 540 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: this year with the young quarterback, But I don't know, 541 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: what do you think NFL? 542 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: Or do you think he stays? 543 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: You know, I think, you know, for him and guys 544 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 1: like him, I think it's a personal preference. You know, 545 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: you can you can make the money whether you're in 546 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: the college or the NFL. Yeah, it's gonna be a 547 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: little bit different, but not substantially different. But it's funny, 548 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, I chuckle when the guys on quote the 549 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: hot seat. He hasn't lost more than two games in 550 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: six seasons. He's got a winning percentage if you round 551 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: it up, ninety percent. So what has he done? He 552 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: hasn't won a national championship and he's lost You know 553 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: a couple of times recently to Michigan. You know, look, 554 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: let's say, fine, Ohio State gets the pitchforks and torches 555 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: and they're gonna run Ryan Day out of town. So Jason, 556 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: who are you gonna hire? 557 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 558 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: Not running about of town. 559 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: Well, it reminds me so who was the guy at 560 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: Georgia who won a lot but could never break through? 561 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: And then they're like, let's get him out, Let's get 562 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: him out. Meanwhile, they build a statue anywhere else if 563 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: you win as many games as that coach. I'm spacing 564 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: on his name, Mark Rick. And then they bring in 565 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: who was. 566 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: It, Mark Rick? 567 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: There you go, Mark Rick won a billion games at Georgia. 568 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: And then he goes to Miami, his alma mater, and 569 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: he actually does very well. And then yeah, I mean 570 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: obviously Kirby came in and did great. But yeah, it's just, 571 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 1: you know, fans are so fickle. It's it's just, you know, 572 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: that's that's why we love college football. 573 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: I don't even know if there's any like former Ohio 574 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: State coaches Ryan Day. Isn't he a Chip Kelly guy 575 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: from like the northeast, right. 576 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: I believe if I remember correctly, they were together at 577 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. It's like New Hampshire, Yes, yes, yes, yeah, so, 578 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, he's got a lot of he's got that 579 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 1: NFL type of makeup. I think. I think Lincoln Riley 580 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: does too, you know, I know. 581 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 3: Well, Okay, let's pivot to Lincoln Riley struggling a little. 582 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the report struggling. 583 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 3: I mean, dude, he's ducking weekly interviews with a cold. 584 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: He's absoluted to Utah. 585 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, today's Today's what's today? Tuesday? He did not attend 586 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: practice today either, so he does have an illness, so 587 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: maybe he's Yeah, I don't know. 588 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: I hear COVID's going around out here in LA so 589 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: maybe I don't know. 590 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: How severe it is, but it you know, I'll give 591 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: in the bin for the doubt. However, a nice little 592 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: stat for folks that are not Lincoln Riley fans after 593 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: twenty two games Lincoln Riley seventeen and five. 594 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: I saw that. 595 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: Clay Helton after twenty two games, seventeen and five. 596 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 597 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: I think the biggest issue for USC fans is that 598 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: it seems like to everybody on the face of the earth, 599 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: they have issues defensively and they cannot figure it out 600 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: that for the you know, whatever the reason is. Obviously 601 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: Alex Grinch is the defensive coordinator, but you know, their 602 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: offense is off the charts. It's kind of similar to 603 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: how he was at Oklahoma, you know, coach a handful 604 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: of guys that either won or were finalists for the Heisman. Unbelievable, 605 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 1: but ultimately they'd get in the playoffs and they'd you know, 606 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: get in trouble with their defense. The only difference is 607 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: they haven't gotten the playoffs because you know, they don't 608 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: qualify because of too many loss But it's almost it's 609 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: almost similar teams. So yeah, until they figure out the defense, 610 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do. And and I 611 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: think seeing their struggles against Utah, I think that's a 612 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: it's not fair to say that's a preview of what 613 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: lies ahead, but I do think it is a glimpse 614 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: of maybe what's waiting for them in the Big Ten 615 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: when they play some of these more physical teams that 616 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: want to grind it out and do that similar to 617 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: what Utah does. And then you throw in the cold weather. 618 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: So that'll be fascinating to see when all those guys 619 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: move to the Big ten and how they fare when 620 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: they you know, they make the trips out East. 621 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to crush Caleb Williams. Obviously he's got 622 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 3: an incredible resume. You know, heisman an awesome player. He's 623 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 3: gonna probably almost certainly be the number one pick I do. 624 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: But after that Notre Dame game, it just I was 625 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: reminded that, like, hey man, when he plays top tier competition, 626 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: it's not like the video game Caleb Williams that dominates, 627 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: you know, the lower region of the PAC twelve. And 628 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: then we saw it again against Utah. Now I know 629 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 3: he put up good numbers against Utah last year on 630 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: the road. For whatever reason, he's he's not amazing in 631 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: the big games against the biggest opponents, and again they 632 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: have no defense. 633 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: But Bruce, sorry, Brett, where are. 634 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: You on Caleb Williams and his like makeup heading into 635 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: the NFL? Like, is it a slam dunk that he's 636 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: going to be better than Drake May at the next level? 637 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: No? I mean, my god, nothing's a slam dunk, you know, 638 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: as far as success in the NFL. I mean, heck, 639 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: the Bears just had a kid, you know, when in 640 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: his in his first start that you know it was 641 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: D D seven or D eight or whatever, Division eight, 642 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: No D three. No, I don't think. I don't think 643 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: it's a slam dunk at all. I mean, you look 644 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks in the NFL and the makeup is 645 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: so different. I mean, you know, justin Field, CJ. Stroud, 646 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, these guys that were superstars in college and 647 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: then you get to the NFL and it's it's a 648 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: different game. And then you've you know, you've got somebody 649 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: like Brock Purdy who was a good but not a 650 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: great quarterback at Iowa State in the Big twelve, and 651 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: then you know, yeah, he threw some bad picks late 652 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: Monday night against the Vikings, but you know, people are like, 653 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: this guy could be the MVP. So yeah, Jason, it's 654 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: I think it's impossible to say this guy's definitely the 655 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: guy or that guy's definitely the guy, and he's certainly 656 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: NFL folks will say that, and then we'll find out 657 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: three or four years whether they're smart or not. I'll 658 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: be fascinated to see if if he finishes the year. 659 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: You know, I know Oocho made the tweet about he 660 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: should hang it up, and I disagree with that one 661 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: thousand percent, saying he's out of the playoff running, you 662 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: should you should shut it down prepare for the NFL. 663 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: And so, you know, being the smart s I am, 664 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: I tweeted out, there's one hundred and ten schools with 665 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: two losses, so they should shut down the rest of 666 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: the season because they have no shot at the playoff. 667 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: Can't do sarcasm on Twitter. But I hopefully, I hope 668 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't come to that. Hopefully he finishes out and 669 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: we see what happens. But you know, I do wonder 670 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: what how NFL teams will judge him if he decides 671 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: to shut it down. Will some teams dock him a 672 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: little bit because of basically saying I'm done. 673 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: That's a great question. 674 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: Now, if memory serves Micah Parsons in the Colt, I 675 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: think it was a COVID year, just decided I'm not 676 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 3: playing sat out and it seemed at the time like, oh, 677 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 3: maybe that's not going to be viewed. Well, it hasn't 678 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: mattered at all. He's ridiculously talented, he's awesome player in 679 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: the NFL. But I'm trying to think, has there been 680 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: a quarterback who shut it down early. 681 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: Surely there's been one. 682 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean there's a ton of guys that skip the 683 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: bowl game. But skip the bowl game, yeah, I mean 684 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: that that obviously, that's kind And when we go to 685 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: twelve team you think it's bad. Now, when we go 686 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: to twelve team playoff next year, it's gonna, Yeah, it'll 687 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: be like a pandemic. I mean, you're gonna see all 688 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: these guys that are not in the playoff that opt 689 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: out of bowl games. I'm afraid, Jason. I can't think 690 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: of anybody off the top of my head. If so 691 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: it was more injury related. But I haven't heard of 692 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: any quarterback that basically decided not to finish the regular 693 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: season to prepare for the NFL if they were healthy. 694 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see him doing it. I mean he 695 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 3: would have to skip the UCLA game. Like I know, 696 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: a lot of college kids now don't care about their 697 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 3: legacy of college. It's about getting the getting the cheddar 698 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 3: in the NFL. But Brett, I mean, if he were 699 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 3: to skip the U c l A game, but I 700 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 3: don't want to risk injury. 701 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I don't know how that 702 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: would be. 703 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: Viewed among the Trojan like fraternity if you will, and 704 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't give a crap about that. 705 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean that's a great point. I mean, you don't 706 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: know who he's listening to. You know, he may have 707 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: advisors to say, you know, look, their last two games 708 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: at Oregon home against UCLA. You're gonna skip those games. 709 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: And you you just brought up some great points about 710 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: his his performance in big games. Excuse me, those are 711 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: two of the biggest games of the year. You know, 712 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: it's not going to impact where they go to the 713 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: playoffs or not. They're still technically alive to go to 714 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: win the Pac twelve title. So you're just gonna sit 715 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: out those games because you want to wait for the NFL. Yeah, 716 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that necessarily would be 717 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: a good look. 718 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 3: All right, we could wrap up. Let me ask you 719 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 3: this some Brett rank. These pro prospects, not college quarterbacks. 720 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 3: Pro prospects. Who are current current college quarterbacks penis Quin, Viewers, Bo, Nicks, 721 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 3: and McCarthy. 722 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: The order you put him, Wow, Viewers Nick next one, 723 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: if yours is hell, If yours obviously yours has to 724 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: be healthy. Picks Pinix is going to be the one. 725 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: I think there's going to be so much difference of 726 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: opinion just because he's not he's not unorthodox, but just 727 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: because I mean, you've seen him play. I mean it's funny. 728 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: I was talking at talking to another coach and I'm like, 729 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: you always see lefties and they had that sweet throwing 730 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: motion and they're like, yeah, except Pinix. And I know 731 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: Pinix throws like a jug machine. You know, he just 732 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: zips it out there. But obviously, you know, poor performance 733 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: against Arizona State. But yeah, I would I would rank him. 734 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: I would rank him in that order if I was a. 735 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 3: I wonder how like I think he's got the two 736 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: acls on one knee and he's gonna be I think 737 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: twenty three or twenty four. 738 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 2: Now, I know age is not a huge deal. 739 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a great point, which Shy didn't consider. 740 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of, No, you're taking into age and 741 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: all that. That's an absolute, very valid point. 742 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 2: And that's yeah. I did a mock for Fox Sports 743 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 2: and all these people killed me. 744 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: Oh Penix, Penix, I'm like, you got to look at 745 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: the way the NFL does like the age matters. Again, 746 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 3: it's not the end all be all, but also the 747 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 3: two knee. 748 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: Surgeries and like, I don't know. Talk to me about 749 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 2: both mix real quickly. I'm sorry. I just don't love 750 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 2: it what I've seen. 751 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 3: Like, I think he's a solid quarterback, but he's like 752 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 3: a mid round pick to me, I don't know. I 753 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 3: don't see dynamic and like good to carry a team 754 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 3: to victory. I just don't see it. 755 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, do you. 756 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: If he plays all his games at home, he'd be 757 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: the number one pick overall because we have the home 758 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: Bonnicks and we have the road Bonicks. 759 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you. 760 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: Know, great kid. You know, look, I don't know where 761 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: he would go. But the biggest issue is the disparity 762 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: from him playing at home and on the road. I mean, 763 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: it's it's very it's pretty drastic. This year he's you know, 764 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: nineteen touchdowns only one interception. But yeah, earlier in his 765 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: history last year also at Auburn, it was like Jackal 766 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: and Hyde with him when you got him away from home. 767 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: All right. 768 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 3: Brett McMurphy Action Network, Brett, thanks for taking the time, buddy, 769 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 3: and keep up with the breaking news and all the 770 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 3: good stuff you do. 771 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: Man, you got it. Jason, thanks buddy,