Speaker 1: It's nine O Gen one Engine with Jenny Garth and
Speaker 1: Tory spelling. Oh mg, you guys, this is it. It's
Speaker 1: finally here, Ellen, we made it. We are gonna see
Speaker 1: some crazy you know what in this episode.
Speaker 2: Tory, are you okay?
Speaker 3: Are you O?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm okay. My arm's okay. But poor
Speaker 3: Donna gets this is the moment you've all been waiting for,
Speaker 3: gets pushed down the stairs by Ray.
Speaker 1: Oh Ray threw it be gone?
Speaker 2: For how many years? Almost thirty years, people have been
Speaker 2: going around Rancho Los Palmas looking for those stairs.
Speaker 3: Like trying to recreate that scene.
Speaker 2: The moment that ruined Jamie Walter's career.
Speaker 1: And and and you guys, the end, Amy go ahead.
Speaker 1: You love to talk about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I loved it, hated it, loved
Speaker 2: to hate it. But Brandon and Valerie are fully making out.
Speaker 2: And it was like shocking, shocking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it made my head like spin on my neck.
Speaker 1: It was weird. But we're gonna see it.
Speaker 2: Let we talk about it all.
Speaker 3: Oh, we do it.
Speaker 1: Let's dive right in, you guys, Okay, you guys, Season five,
Speaker 1: episode thirty one, ps I Love You, Part two, Aaron
Speaker 1: May twenty fourth, nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3: Synopsis. Dylan finds himself at the edge of death when
Speaker 3: the Mafia movie investor tells him he knows who killed
Speaker 3: his father. Steve finds himself making out with a man,
Speaker 3: Brandon is on the brink of giving into Valerie's advances,
Speaker 3: and Donna finds herself falling hard. Oh thanks, Terray.
Speaker 1: Directed by Victor Lobel, Written by Larry Mullen and Chip Johansson.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, mm hm, ten's gonna be good. Ten ten.
Speaker 1: You can't rate it yet, I guess you can.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to begin. I mean, I guess.
Speaker 2: I know we started to dabbling it last week, but
Speaker 2: maybe we just go through all of it from wherever
Speaker 2: we left off.
Speaker 1: I think we were off.
Speaker 2: I think we left off like at the pool party.
Speaker 4: The pool party, the like get out of the pool
Speaker 4: and put this towel around you, which was just like,
Speaker 4: oh god, no, come on, no.
Speaker 2: Young guy is doing that. And if he is, it's
Speaker 2: the biggest red flag on the planet.
Speaker 4: Wait for red flags now, s guy Ray, Bless his heart,
Speaker 4: but he's a mess.
Speaker 2: And the fact that y'all thought you could clean him
Speaker 2: up and bring him back and people wouldn't hate him.
Speaker 2: How did anyone they say it like we did? It
Speaker 2: feel like your dad maybe thought that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking so series regular for.
Speaker 2: Being so smart. These producers were not smart thinking that
Speaker 2: anyone would accept this guy to be one of the gangs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, every people love Donna. They don't want
Speaker 1: to see anybody hurting her. They don't want to see
Speaker 1: anybody hurting any of this core crew. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: makes sense we didn't we leave off with Donna and
Speaker 1: Ray horseback riding though, Oh yes.
Speaker 2: We did, You're right. And it was so hot and
Speaker 2: he had his double shirts on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that really bothered you because.
Speaker 2: I'm just always hot, So I always just feel for
Speaker 2: anybody that I'm like, god, they just look hot.
Speaker 1: Well that's where Ray gives her health over the way
Speaker 1: she is dressing and says that he is not high
Speaker 1: enough on her list of priorities.
Speaker 2: First of all, do you know what I wanted to say?
Speaker 2: She told you it was gonna be a really busy weekend,
Speaker 2: but that you should come and have a good time.
Speaker 2: This guy's such a like every party has a pooper.
Speaker 2: That's why we invited you, Like Ray, pretty sure, I'm
Speaker 2: done with him.
Speaker 1: I mean, Donna, why did you invite him? This is
Speaker 1: going to go back?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, we've talked about this.
Speaker 1: This was just the wrong move, Like she if I
Speaker 1: just start calling you, Donna, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: I respond to you know, I just she set herself
Speaker 3: up here, she said, everybody up. I don't know what's
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've all gotten ourselves into positions like
Speaker 1: this where we think it's going to be great and
Speaker 1: then it is backfires.
Speaker 3: It's I mean in a big way.
Speaker 2: When you're watching this, are you sort of as mad
Speaker 2: as I am at how terrible Ray is? Like, what
Speaker 2: are you feeling?
Speaker 3: I'm so in the middle of it that I can't
Speaker 3: see that?
Speaker 2: So you still have, like you could sort of understand why.
Speaker 3: She liked him, hmmm, I understand who she was at
Speaker 3: that age and how she was like susceptible to men
Speaker 3: influencing her. Yeah, even Donna then how she was able
Speaker 3: to And I can't get out of it any other
Speaker 3: way because it was the only journey I knew. Oh wow,
Speaker 3: that didn't go down that way, right, Like if it
Speaker 3: didn't happen that way, it would wouldn't have been part
Speaker 3: of Donna's history in her journey.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even this, even because.
Speaker 2: I'm watching it was such a different feeling about Ray
Speaker 2: than I did thirty years ago. I think I thought
Speaker 2: he was cute and I love that he could sing,
Speaker 2: and I was like he's now I'm like, this guy sucks.
Speaker 3: He sucks.
Speaker 1: AnyWho.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: We find Brandon, who is now hungover in the pool
Speaker 1: when Claire and David finally arrive, and David Brandon that
Speaker 1: he and Claire walked in on Alison last night at
Speaker 1: the bench House with Kelly.
Speaker 2: Brandon called him Dave like nine times he did. Yes,
Speaker 2: He's like dadda And I'm like, Dave, Dave is the
Speaker 2: code word to save yourself from a like rapist? What
Speaker 2: is this? What?
Speaker 1: What Dave's a code?
Speaker 2: Remember when Torri Remember when Donna said, I'm okay Dave
Speaker 2: and that was how.
Speaker 3: Dave need him that, Like no one calls him Dave And.
Speaker 2: Then Brandon's just calling him that from the pools.
Speaker 3: Willy nilly, like it has no repercussions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it matters to Dave's if you call them, if
Speaker 1: to David's, if you call them Dave, And imagine Dave's
Speaker 1: if you call them David, it's really yeah.
Speaker 2: And I also did enjoy that scene. Though I thought
Speaker 2: I thought it was good, I'm like, okay, this is juicy.
Speaker 2: He's sort of telling him he felt obligated to tell him.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, he's telling Brandon that, but he won't tell
Speaker 1: Donna that Ray cheated on him with Valerie. I'm not
Speaker 1: getting Oh my gosh, that is moral stance.
Speaker 2: Here, literally such an aha moment that I did not
Speaker 2: think of till you just said it.
Speaker 1: He walks in and just flab of blabs about Kelly.
Speaker 2: Who's really not even doing anything.
Speaker 3: No dinner you guys, because it's more personal than other,
Speaker 3: like he already cheated on her, Like now he's gonna
Speaker 3: tell Donna someone else cheating on her, Like it's.
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm really realizing though, WTF right, Like if Dave
Speaker 2: David is so chill to tell Brandon this is like
Speaker 2: the love of Brandon's life and he's just like, sorry, dude,
Speaker 2: she's with a girl. Yet he won't tell his best
Speaker 2: friend and ex girlfriend that she's could be getting like
Speaker 2: a sexually transmitted disease from this.
Speaker 1: Guy and the girl that he actually loves. He really
Speaker 1: loves Yes, you think he jump at the chance, screw like,
Speaker 1: it's screwy that.
Speaker 2: This guy's cheating on you. And here I am, it's weird.
Speaker 1: You guys want to go to the sorority panel?
Speaker 3: Sure do.
Speaker 1: Lise Martin, mommy is hosting a panel, and she brags
Speaker 1: about being an elitist. What a great speech. Donna walks in,
Speaker 1: uh late from her horseback ride. Oh and police calls
Speaker 1: her a Johnny come lately.
Speaker 2: It looks it looks could kill. Police was like dagger
Speaker 2: eyes straight at Donna.
Speaker 1: Aren't you a Johnny come lately?
Speaker 2: I can't unsee that Pelice Martin is married to Dean
Speaker 2: Butler from Little House on the Prairie. I literally can't
Speaker 2: get it off my mind now that I know it's
Speaker 2: I don't know, Folice sucks.
Speaker 3: Also I know she does.
Speaker 2: She sucks. She's so dumb. Thanks for saving her.
Speaker 3: Ray.
Speaker 2: I know we'll get to that.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then we see kind of this turn in
Speaker 1: police where now she Ray is like her.
Speaker 3: Guy, her tool that she can use to manipulate Donna.
Speaker 2: She thinks, Yeah, Felice needs a lot of therapy. She's
Speaker 2: like a mess.
Speaker 1: Soom springs palm Springs Resort. Kelly's on the phone and
Speaker 1: she is talking to Brandon right at the resort. Is
Speaker 1: she on the phone with him? And we cut to
Speaker 1: Brandon and the k guys doing stupid prank calls.
Speaker 2: He just does, oh my god, oh my god, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I forgot.
Speaker 1: About this, hearing like a Brandon. She doesn't even know
Speaker 1: who this guy is now all of a sudden, First.
Speaker 2: Of all, can we just talk about the prank calls?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know any college dudes. Then are like, you
Speaker 2: know what we want to do right now? Like we
Speaker 2: have all the alcohol we could want, thousands of girls
Speaker 2: who golf. Yeah, let's sit around and make bad prank calls.
Speaker 1: It was so imateure was that show on at this time?
Speaker 3: That show the crank Guy, Cranky Anchors. I loved nut
Speaker 3: show show too.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're just as a material Brandon and Steve.
Speaker 2: It was so like, just one level above is your
Speaker 2: refrigerator running?
Speaker 1: Wait, what's the rest? You better catch you, you better
Speaker 1: catch it.
Speaker 2: Ivon a tinkle to a tinkle?
Speaker 3: So I feel like the guys always said of on
Speaker 3: a tinkle on set? Wait, what was that? I remember?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 3: They did?
Speaker 1: They had they had This is a terrible. And I
Speaker 1: remember this one, did Richard you can call me dick Zenya.
Speaker 1: You never heard that one.
Speaker 3: I learned it from them, like, oh, they loved saying.
Speaker 2: Literally, they're just playing themselves, these guys, they are just
Speaker 2: truly playing themselves. Oh my god, Jenny.
Speaker 1: I kind of like I liked it. Kelly did not
Speaker 1: like it, though, Oh so funny. And then Brandon says, oh,
Speaker 1: come hang with the guys. Oh wait, you don't like
Speaker 1: guys an Oh my.
Speaker 2: God, first ouch, I'm also what not first of all
Speaker 2: not even true. Great if it would be true, I
Speaker 2: wish you would have kissed her right, I would made
Speaker 2: this episode even juicier. And like, Brandon, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 1: He's a drunker? He says, Kelly, you like women? Now?
Speaker 3: I think he's so funny.
Speaker 2: I'm my god, to me, he's just gonna like him too.
Speaker 1: He's a little loosey goosey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like it. But I would just be
Speaker 2: running to Dylan, although he's sky high in a gondola
Speaker 2: about to die, like it's just a mess.
Speaker 1: And then there's old Val coming in to tell Brandon
Speaker 1: that she got them a room. Oh my god, it
Speaker 1: was weird. Kelly says, you can, you can have him,
Speaker 1: and she walked away. I don't know, getting so bizarre.
Speaker 1: We go to the the tennis court where Steve's dad.
Speaker 1: What's his name again?
Speaker 2: Rush?
Speaker 1: Rush? He tells the Rush, Yeah, Rush, but Rush he wants.
Speaker 2: He tells the perfect name for that guy.
Speaker 1: I want you to be with a dream boat on
Speaker 1: in life. Hello, I take offense to that.
Speaker 3: You should?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kelly and Steve nothing, no, okay, anyhow, And so
Speaker 1: he's setting him. He's setting Steve up with this girl.
Speaker 1: I don't really know why is this his motive just
Speaker 1: so that he can be with the dream boat?
Speaker 2: She seems fine too, Like, yeah, she seemed fine, Like
Speaker 2: you'd think he'd have a fun time with that kind
Speaker 2: of cute girl.
Speaker 1: Are so not Steve to not like be into her?
Speaker 2: Why does he care what the dad's motives are first
Speaker 2: of all, and second, the dad's motives weren't even bad, Like,
Speaker 2: just go have fun with this history.
Speaker 3: We'll go through this storyline. That's why, right, we have
Speaker 3: to get to the the big curan.
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh wow, this is happening. Back at the
Speaker 1: Mafia mansion, Dylan is doing a script read with the
Speaker 1: mafia guy's girlfriend and she is not real good.
Speaker 2: At acting what I thought she was so right for
Speaker 2: the part.
Speaker 1: That was so over the top. Oh my godness, what are.
Speaker 2: The odds that? What's his dizzy? Why do I want
Speaker 2: to call him Jonesy? But that's not his name?
Speaker 3: What is Charlie?
Speaker 2: Charlie? Charlie?
Speaker 1: Jonesy was the other guy?
Speaker 2: The other guy that kind of looks like him?
Speaker 1: What do you guys tell him that they don't want
Speaker 1: to do this script? And Dylan says, well, my dad
Speaker 1: did it, and they realized that Jack McKay is Dylan's dad.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's so many holes. One is I know we
Speaker 2: didn't have Google then, but like you'd think that if
Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, you're gonna be meeting with me
Speaker 2: and my business partner Dylan McKay, that somebody would be like, well,
Speaker 2: like do you think that could be the son of Jack?
Speaker 2: And if they're so up in Jack's business, they'd know
Speaker 2: his kid was named Dylan McKay, So like what.
Speaker 1: Well, they figure it all out and then something bad's
Speaker 1: about to happen.
Speaker 2: It also makes me want to go of all the
Speaker 2: gin joints? Do you know? Like, what are the odds
Speaker 2: that these two randos in Palm Springs that have money
Speaker 2: and a wife that wants to be in a movie
Speaker 2: also happened to be connected to Jack McKay's murder.
Speaker 3: Like it's just like, really, I don't know. If it
Speaker 3: wasn't Dylan, I wouldn't be into the storyline at all. No,
Speaker 3: this is not right for the show.
Speaker 1: I'm not into it even with it being Dylan.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair, it's so dark. It's so dark, it took
Speaker 2: a dark turn.
Speaker 3: We're just we're just college kids having Fray already party.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get into all this mafia stuff now.
Speaker 1: No, what we want is for Brandon to go buy
Speaker 1: some condoms because he's gonna back up with out.
Speaker 2: Last.
Speaker 1: He's thinking, you know, ahead and being safe.
Speaker 3: He's so responsible.
Speaker 1: Now, oh god. That is when Valerie hears Donna and
Speaker 1: Ray arguing outside this.
Speaker 2: I actually was happy that she was sort of eas
Speaker 2: droppy because I wanted Donna to have a witness totally.
Speaker 1: I mean, for one, thank.
Speaker 2: God for val Literally, I agree.
Speaker 1: Donna's really frustrated that Ray is always mad, and she
Speaker 1: tries to walk away, but he grabs her so forcefully
Speaker 1: that he basically shoots her down the stairs.
Speaker 2: That was actually very traumatic.
Speaker 1: That's when it happened.
Speaker 3: But I gotta say rewatching it. I don't feel like
Speaker 3: he pushed her or threw her down the stairs.
Speaker 1: I agree, he's hapened so fast I couldn't really.
Speaker 2: But he shouldn't be grabbing her at all. He definitely
Speaker 2: played a part in the accident.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 1: And then he runs down, you know, and he's so like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, are you okay? Of course he's so regretful.
Speaker 2: Quite a tumble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, how did you feel about that stunt? Tell us?
Speaker 3: Okay, So the stunt, you guys. First of all, the outfit,
Speaker 3: you know, it was like one hundred and twenty degrees like,
Speaker 3: and I had to wear Jean Jean so that they
Speaker 3: could put patting on the stunt double. Right, So Jean's
Speaker 3: the tank top, the jeans shirt, and then they brought
Speaker 3: out my stunt double and she was going to walk
Speaker 3: me through it so I can see how she lands.
Speaker 3: And I just remember thinking at the time, wow, that
Speaker 3: this is great. But the wig was really bad. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they're always really but how do I say this
Speaker 3: without sounding horrible?
Speaker 2: She didn't look like you.
Speaker 3: I was really focused on her butt. I remember that
Speaker 3: at the time.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, wait, yes, why were you focused on it?
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I just remember thinking, like, people are
Speaker 3: going to know it's not me, she's she's built very different,
Speaker 3: that's all, okay, very different. Good. And usually when they
Speaker 3: had stunt doubles for anything, and especially like when we
Speaker 3: do TV movies and stuff, they try to match you
Speaker 3: up pretty well so that it's, you know, the stunt
Speaker 3: doubles the same height, same body frame. And she wasn't.
Speaker 3: So this is the first time I'd done a stunt
Speaker 3: on the show that it wasn't the same body And
Speaker 3: I was like, hmmm, are people going to notice that?
Speaker 3: And they were like no, no, no, But I did
Speaker 3: say something. I was concerned. She didn't look anything like me.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she was a little more muscular, shall
Speaker 1: we say.
Speaker 2: And shorter. She looked shorter and more more muscular.
Speaker 3: She was way shorter than me. And yeah, like very
Speaker 3: fit and built.
Speaker 1: But what a fall, man?
Speaker 3: What it was a fall?
Speaker 1: She did.
Speaker 2: It was a fall, but it's a probably one of
Speaker 2: the worst stunt double. Like it's not well known.
Speaker 3: And I was so freaked out about it that I
Speaker 3: like offered. I was like, I'll do it.
Speaker 2: I'll do it.
Speaker 3: Can we oh start a little bit higher? No, you know,
Speaker 3: I'll like roll into it. But I was very concerned
Speaker 3: that people would know it wasn't my body.
Speaker 1: And people did yep. But I mean that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's how TV shows go.
Speaker 2: I actually actually made Lorraine send it to us in
Speaker 2: slow motion. Oh okay, so I'm going to watch that
Speaker 2: as we all talk.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me let me look, we're going to watch
Speaker 1: this and s emotion.
Speaker 2: It's oh, he does sort of really cause the fall. Okay, sure,
Speaker 2: we you know, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, it's pretty bad.
Speaker 2: We starts off okay, and then towards the bottom of
Speaker 2: the fall, it.
Speaker 1: Is just so not you. Yeah, he whips you around
Speaker 1: that wig, that wig, Oh my goodness. But great job
Speaker 1: on the landing there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta do it one more time. Can you
Speaker 2: freeze on the body seat?
Speaker 3: There's the butt and I'm like, not my butt.
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta do it again, dude, Yeah, play it again.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, he really does.
Speaker 1: He does so throw her around.
Speaker 2: I don't think he meant to. Yeah, the landing is excellent.
Speaker 1: All those metal stairs must have hurt.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's just so not you. It's not you.
Speaker 1: I could watch this all day long, you guys, or.
Speaker 2: Maybe the person was taller than you.
Speaker 1: Can I say one more time, Loraine, a little shorter
Speaker 1: than you?
Speaker 3: I don't know. It was just just wasn't any time
Speaker 3: in ten years that it was a stunt double that
Speaker 3: the body looked nothing like me.
Speaker 2: Okay, so here we go. I do blame him.
Speaker 3: Why would he pull on that shoulder? You shouldn't have
Speaker 3: pulled on that shoulder.
Speaker 2: God, the wig is so bad.
Speaker 1: The wig. The wig, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I could brown hair underneath.
Speaker 2: I can't, my god, doesn't even look like the same
Speaker 2: outfit it was.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 1: We have got to show that this liw emotion for all.
Speaker 3: I could literally just stare at that zoom in right
Speaker 3: on the face when she turns around.
Speaker 2: What is this the second most thing people ask you about? Obviously,
Speaker 2: Donna Martin graduates first. Is this number two correct? Yes?
Speaker 3: Always?
Speaker 2: And what do they typically say?
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, I felt so bad for Donna, and
Speaker 3: Ray pushed her down the stairs.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm laughing.
Speaker 3: And I always say I wasn't me, That wasn't the
Speaker 3: worst like so like still like traumatized, like not that
Speaker 3: like someone like almost got killed, like going down like
Speaker 3: their neck. I'm like, it's not my butt.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: And also you always justify and like try to defend
Speaker 1: Ray Jamie.
Speaker 2: Oh god, he's Jamie Walter.
Speaker 1: Jamie Jamie Walters. He's such a great guy, you guys.
Speaker 2: Jamie Walters is a great guy. Ray Prewitt is horrific.
Speaker 2: And I know we're getting in the weeds, but like
Speaker 2: they literally make him a series regular. The next season
Speaker 2: starts with him being in the credit opening credits, and
Speaker 2: I think they literally get rid of him very quickly
Speaker 2: because they realize the audience is like, are you nothing
Speaker 2: kidding me? Yeah, Like even then they were like no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, crazy things are happening at the gas station too.
Speaker 2: Does this fill up my tank?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Steve magically spots the car Goddess that he's been
Speaker 1: dreaming about since he got there, and he offers to
Speaker 1: help her put her gas in and she says, go ahead, Amy,
Speaker 1: you can say it.
Speaker 2: I forget the exact line. Somebody give me the exact line.
Speaker 3: Is this supposed to be like a callback to like
Speaker 3: vacation like with Christy Brinkley and like.
Speaker 1: Kind of okay, kind of but not really at all. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm very different, she says, So are you going to
Speaker 1: stand there with that hoes in your hand? Or are
Speaker 1: you going to stick it in my tank? Thank you?
Speaker 1: That's that's what she said. But back to the important stuff.
Speaker 1: Kelly comes to the hospital, thank god, and Ray covers
Speaker 1: up how Donna really fell, and Donna doesn't tell Kelly
Speaker 1: the truth. Why do you think she didn't tell Kelly because.
Speaker 3: You'd be mad at me.
Speaker 1: I'd be mad at you.
Speaker 3: Do you like how that just impulsively came out? Oh? No,
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I meant by that.
Speaker 2: I don't think you tell her because.
Speaker 3: I don't want her to know, don't you understand you? Guys?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're embarrassed that you're dating this guy
Speaker 2: who's this terrible and you're also like very sucked into
Speaker 2: his abusive behavior. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's, you know, pretty reflective of how it
Speaker 1: is in real life when someone's in an abusive relationship.
Speaker 1: That's not something they want to talk about, even to
Speaker 1: their very best friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the shame, it's just totally that part is realistic.
Speaker 2: She's feeling so much shame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's like terrified of him at this point.
Speaker 3: At this point now she is like, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm almost making light of it because it's
Speaker 2: so sort of the whole thing so ridiculous. But like,
Speaker 2: if you really think about it, it's really bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 3: It's really What happens after this? Does she leave him?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: She pretty much tells him off in this episode.
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, I don't think they're done done. No, I
Speaker 3: don't know. Amy are they done after this? No?
Speaker 2: I mean no shorts? No.
Speaker 1: Okay. So at the restaurant, Brandon is having his weird
Speaker 1: Jim and Cindy flash backs or whatever they are, his
Speaker 1: parents warning him not to sleep with Valerie.
Speaker 3: Those were so bizarre, not.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was.
Speaker 1: And that's when Steve and Elle, the lady with the car,
Speaker 1: they're standing outside the restaurant and apparently they're gonna get
Speaker 1: down to it, and then Steve pulls something out of
Speaker 1: her bra and he holds it up and he says,
Speaker 1: what's this? And at that point I was kind of
Speaker 1: I kind of knew, did you know that Elle was
Speaker 1: a man?
Speaker 3: So I remembered you remember, like could you tell watching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was asking myself that and I think I remembered.
Speaker 2: I actually don't think you could tell.
Speaker 1: She looked damn good to me.
Speaker 2: Totally. It feels dated this part.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: This is the other thing. That character was played by
Speaker 2: Monica Shnaire, a Canadian model, actress, television host, and real
Speaker 2: estate agent.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 2: So there's some flags on the whole thing.
Speaker 3: But whoa, she's six one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's very beautiful legs, Yeah, totally beautiful.
Speaker 1: She and then Steve says no. She el tells him,
Speaker 1: don't act like you didn't know, eh, And Steve looks down,
Speaker 1: screams and runs away.
Speaker 2: Right, it was not the best great reaction, right. Oh wait,
Speaker 2: have we had the gondola scene yet?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, oh my god. This episode Okay.
Speaker 1: So he uh, Dylan is making a secret call and
Speaker 1: they see him doing it. They find out and he
Speaker 1: goes inside and the mafia guys and Charlie. The mafia
Speaker 1: guys are in the limo, but not Charlie.
Speaker 3: Right to go.
Speaker 2: They mysteriously told him go do something else because we're about.
Speaker 1: To I was working with the actress the girlfriend. Oh yeah, hellye,
Speaker 1: running lines with her, so Dylan glasses on and gets
Speaker 1: into the limo with the bad guys.
Speaker 3: Bad.
Speaker 2: I knew it was bad.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, real bad. That's when Kelly finally meets up
Speaker 1: with David McLaren tells them that she doesn't really appreciate
Speaker 1: that brand there gave Brandon the wrong impression about her
Speaker 1: in a so that was good. She she kind of.
Speaker 2: Called them out, those two little gossipy.
Speaker 1: Brandon has taken VAL's car on his uh condom run
Speaker 1: and then he gets pulled over and he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the rest registration because it's not his car, and then
Speaker 1: he pulls down the sunvisor and out drops uh, marriage
Speaker 1: you want a cigarette? Was wacky tobacky right falls right
Speaker 1: on his lap and the cop makes him step out
Speaker 1: of the car.
Speaker 2: Oh God, God, but I don't know how.
Speaker 1: Brandon gets away with it. I guess it wasn't enough
Speaker 1: because he comes back. He wakes up Valerie and he
Speaker 1: tells her that he spent the night in jail thanks
Speaker 1: to her joint. He gives her a keys back and
Speaker 1: says he's going to find his own way home. So
Speaker 1: I guess he lost his boner for a vow at
Speaker 1: the same I mean wait, who did he call? Though,
Speaker 1: who did they called? What do you mean?
Speaker 3: But he spent the night in jail they let him out.
Speaker 1: I don't think he called anyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did they? I think they just let him
Speaker 2: out on his own recognisance.
Speaker 3: That happens. I don't know any things.
Speaker 1: Maybe in Palm Springs, maybe one joint, I don't know. Sure,
Speaker 1: Steve comes back. He's so embarrassed. He doesn't want to
Speaker 1: tell Brandon about his goddess. Oh yeah, and then he
Speaker 1: tells him. But then he says it to Brandon, if
Speaker 1: you tell anyone, I'll bet you senseless.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 1: See Donna in bed, sweet Donna with her little arm
Speaker 1: sling on, and she is uh watching Felice go over
Speaker 1: her speech. And then yeah, she's scared.
Speaker 2: She is scared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's scared. Now get rid of this guy.
Speaker 1: And she tells him, I want you to stay away
Speaker 1: from me. I never spakin something like that.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: But Felice, Felice leaves are in his hands again.
Speaker 1: Yep, Mommy of the year.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Oh what a mess.
Speaker 1: And Brandon apologized Kelly for thinking that she was Allison
Speaker 1: for believing what Claren David said, and Kelly asks Brandon,
Speaker 1: why does everything have to be over just because she
Speaker 1: wouldn't marry him?
Speaker 2: Which I thought was a great point, like a really
Speaker 2: great point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really did a three sixty there right that
Speaker 1: that his actions were not that of a guy who
Speaker 1: just asked this girl to marry him.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's heartbroken, and so when you're heartbroken, you
Speaker 3: go fuck.
Speaker 1: Oops. I can't say that. When your heartbroken, you you
Speaker 1: do what he's doing with Fal, what he planned to
Speaker 1: do with bel.
Speaker 3: No, I don't. We wouldn't. It doesn't track.
Speaker 1: But I don't think Brandon would.
Speaker 3: No, but at his age, and he's just like yeah.
Speaker 2: I also think Brandon would have been like really stoked
Speaker 2: to hear that from Kelly and be like, oh, you
Speaker 2: know what, we should stay together. We're young. She's basically saying,
Speaker 2: I still want to be with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he didn't really want to get married.
Speaker 2: Either, exactly. The whole thing is so absurd. It's like,
Speaker 2: you're like twenty years old, bro.
Speaker 1: What and then this is it? This is the aerial tramway.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. They take Dylan into the onto the
Speaker 1: thing that goes up.
Speaker 2: That real thing. That thing is a real thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a ride you can go on.
Speaker 2: Which you could not pay me enough money to ever
Speaker 2: go on that, which Toy and I've talked about. Pass.
Speaker 1: They put duct tape on his mouth.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I always love when when they do that on the
Speaker 1: show because you can tell it's not stuck to them
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: Oh and all out of nowhere, suddenly these guys we
Speaker 2: don't even understand why. We're like, what did Dylan do? Nothing?
Speaker 2: They're all mad because he went and called who'sy dc? I? Yeah,
Speaker 2: whatever her name was, Christine, No, not floozy doozy, who'sy doozy?
Speaker 3: Guy?
Speaker 2: Who'sy Doozy? I couldn't remember her name.
Speaker 1: I thought you called her a floozy.
Speaker 2: Wait, that's what she just said. I said, who'sy Doozy?
Speaker 2: Because I came for her name.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess they're worried that he's like an
Speaker 1: informant for the FBI. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm like, we don't even know what their crime is.
Speaker 1: And then the guy, the mob guy, tells him he
Speaker 1: knows who killed Jack.
Speaker 3: First of all, that was crazy too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then thank god they let him off the hook.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of that line in speed do you
Speaker 2: guys know? On the bus and Keanu Reeves and like
Speaker 2: one of the guys has obviously done something bad and
Speaker 2: like turns the gun on Keanu Reeves Jack Travers and
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't care about your crime. It is
Speaker 2: good with me.
Speaker 1: Like, whoa why would these mob guys have this much time?
Speaker 1: Aren't they busy? Like do they really have time to
Speaker 1: go up in a tramp?
Speaker 2: Exactly, they're up the gondola. They don't hang him out,
Speaker 2: like just to scare him and then to admit that
Speaker 2: they have knowledge of the crime, like that they're an
Speaker 2: accessory to murder. It's like why did they do that?
Speaker 2: Like they should have just said we're not going to
Speaker 2: fund your movies.
Speaker 3: You know, I hate this storyline.
Speaker 1: Well, luckily Dylan tells Charlie he wants out of the movie,
Speaker 1: so hopefully.
Speaker 3: Thank god.
Speaker 1: But I have a feeling because I know, like I
Speaker 1: kind of know what, yeah happens, like what you do?
Speaker 1: Why you know? I know what kind of happened. So
Speaker 1: the market thing is here to stay.
Speaker 2: I think this is the beginning of a major storyline
Speaker 2: that is like here to stay.
Speaker 3: A life changing storyline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why I don't think the jumps are
Speaker 2: season seven because season six is still real solid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is wild. They're at a bus stop. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: are both waiting for a bus home.
Speaker 2: He could have just bought a car and said he's
Speaker 2: gonna take the bus.
Speaker 1: Oh, but that's where we see the two guys bond again.
Speaker 2: Which I was actually pleased with. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: That made me happy. But right, why would they take
Speaker 2: a bus? Like the two of them could easily like
Speaker 2: figure it out. I guess they can't run a car
Speaker 2: because they're too young. I don't know, but I think
Speaker 2: they could have taken a plane. I don't I don't
Speaker 2: even know, helicopter. Dylan's got loads of dough.
Speaker 1: They could have rented a camel.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Brandon gets home finally from his bus ride, and he
Speaker 1: realizes that the wash house has been sold.
Speaker 3: Oh that's it.
Speaker 1: Bye bye m Alta Dina. Oh thank god, no more
Speaker 1: driving to Dinas.
Speaker 2: Oh no, there'll be a twist, don't you worry?
Speaker 1: Good lord? Oh I remember, I feel like every time
Speaker 1: we say something's over, you're like, oh no.
Speaker 2: No, no, things can definitely fall out of escrow, guys,
Speaker 2: don't you worry. That's just a cliffhanger.
Speaker 1: And then, of course Dylan has a message on his
Speaker 1: answering machine from the FBI agent Christine, warning him about
Speaker 1: the dangerous mafia guys in the desert.
Speaker 2: A little late. Look, if he was in that much danger,
Speaker 2: he'd be in witness protection. This is like so crazy.
Speaker 1: So then she tells him that they're really close to
Speaker 1: arresting the guys that tried to kill us, that killed
Speaker 1: his dad. So Dylan gets his gun.
Speaker 3: Out, loads it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he loads it.
Speaker 3: It's going, it's going in.
Speaker 1: What's like, that's the cliffhanger first first season five. Dylan
Speaker 1: loads his gun and then and then this is a cliffhanger,
Speaker 1: you guys, you tell them, I can't this.
Speaker 2: This show brand Yeah, this show is somewhere between Porky's Meats,
Speaker 2: like meets like What's Likes or Meatballs, Meatballs, Revenge of
Speaker 2: the Nerds whatever, one of those sort of eighties you know,
Speaker 2: Booby rom com teen Romp things whatever, while simultaneously being like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I can't think of a movie that's
Speaker 2: like a team like a like a Wilder Broody like
Speaker 2: FBI movie, Like it's like one of those John Grisham novels.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, it's a Pelican brief, It's a lend.
Speaker 2: Ah Well. Who wrote this again? Uh, Larry Mullen, Is
Speaker 2: that right?
Speaker 3: Larry Mullen.
Speaker 2: I don't even know, Like he's my best friend, Larry Moan.
Speaker 3: Johansson got it.
Speaker 2: Like the ogs wrote this, like right, they're living their
Speaker 2: best lives writing this so like and then let's throw
Speaker 2: this in.
Speaker 1: Like it's just what they had to have, some big
Speaker 1: thing to go out on for the season.
Speaker 2: Right. The kiss, the weird hook armed kiss, do you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like he kind of reached back
Speaker 2: and I was like.
Speaker 1: What, Oh God, I closed my eyes. I didn't see it.
Speaker 3: Oh, I have my eyes.
Speaker 1: You liked it, you always love it. You love what
Speaker 1: Valerie kisses anyone because.
Speaker 3: You got the hots for val I enjoy watching her kiss.
Speaker 2: They had weird chemistry too.
Speaker 3: I was like, I know, weird this, this.
Speaker 2: Is this is not what I expected.
Speaker 3: Because we want to think of them related, but they're.
Speaker 1: H I will still to be brother and sister kind.
Speaker 2: Of, I know, and yet they're really not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they start making out on the couch and
Speaker 1: that's it. People, that's a rapt dumb.
Speaker 3: Do you think he used that condom he brought brought
Speaker 3: back by.
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 1: But did he ever even get the condoms because he
Speaker 1: got Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he has some upstairs in the dresser.
Speaker 1: Or he goes into Gym's room. No, they never mind.
Speaker 2: It really sets us up for a big season six.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what could happen after this, Like I.
Speaker 1: Hope it's like a a like an immediate pickup, you know,
Speaker 1: I just know the end of that scene. I hope
Speaker 1: it opens up with that scene Ginger Lamona.
Speaker 3: I don't want like months to be gone like ginger Monica.
Speaker 2: You guys, ginger La Monica is coming. Do you remember
Speaker 2: ginger La Monica?
Speaker 1: Sure do I don't.
Speaker 2: Elisa Donovan is ginger lah Monica.
Speaker 1: Oh I love her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like VAL's best friend from Buffalo or whatever
Speaker 2: they are going to be up to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you ready?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I need to take a nap
Speaker 1: before I watch.
Speaker 2: It is a good finale, though, I have to say,
Speaker 2: like I actually might call this people Can Come at
Speaker 2: Me the best finale of so far.
Speaker 3: Sorry, okay, I didn't know where she was going with
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: As like, you know, there's the I think there's the
Speaker 2: one where it's like where you tell I can't remember
Speaker 2: if that's a finale or not, where you tell Brenda.
Speaker 2: That was pretty gnarly, But this is like very That
Speaker 2: was really good. Yeah that was that was good, but
Speaker 2: this is like more juicy. Everybody he's got a situation practically,
Speaker 2: mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well David and Claire don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're kind of annoying. I'm ready for them
Speaker 2: to be done.
Speaker 3: So they're in a breakup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did they break up in season six?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys did it. We made it through season five.
Speaker 1: I didn't think this.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 1: It was literally a year that we can't get back.
Speaker 3: Times two.
Speaker 1: We had to live at the first time, and now
Speaker 1: we just relived another year of our life gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was actually a year, almost a year that
Speaker 2: we've been on season five. I really it's thirty three
Speaker 2: episodes and like, and we had a couple of double
Speaker 2: so forty weeks, so we basically have been doing season
Speaker 2: five for forty weeks too long.
Speaker 3: When I said I loved the college years, maybe it's
Speaker 3: season six.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 1: You keep saying that. I know you keep saying that.
Speaker 1: You're like maybe at the end of season four, You're like,
Speaker 1: maybe it was season five. I said, I love keep going.
Speaker 2: First of all, this is a ten, you guys.
Speaker 1: This is I liked the season as a whole, like
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a great question, Jenny. What do you
Speaker 2: guys give the whole season?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: I obviously this episode's a ten. What do you both
Speaker 2: give the whole season? Oh my god, I was wrong.
Speaker 2: There's thirty two episodes in seasons, thank god.
Speaker 3: Forever and ever and ever and ever.
Speaker 1: Take me away. You remember those commercials of course, of course.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you guys give the whole season?
Speaker 1: I give it like a seven or eight?
Speaker 2: So low because definitely in nine nine, thank.
Speaker 3: You, Tori.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely a nine. I mean it's it's.
Speaker 3: Really been right where it started.
Speaker 1: I just I all of the honestly, all of the
Speaker 1: like Dylan stuff wasn't great this year, and yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: towards the end, and.
Speaker 3: Then you know, I didn't like his wardrobe, you know.
Speaker 1: The fire wardrobe. The fire was fun and excitement.
Speaker 2: I like, the cult.
Speaker 1: Was great, Colt and the fire happened this year?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1: Even remember already problem, but also, uh, the whole introduction.
Speaker 1: Is this the season that they introduced the peach pit
Speaker 1: after dark?
Speaker 2: This is what this is the one in season five?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I didn't love the peach pit.
Speaker 2: After we met Valerie in season five that was huge.
Speaker 2: We literally began.
Speaker 3: The year one season Yeah, this is where Brand's Brenda
Speaker 3: in one season.
Speaker 2: The end of last year, season whatever was Brenda leaving
Speaker 2: and the beginning of this was Valerie showing up right.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, she's what a whirlwind.
Speaker 2: Season six begins.
Speaker 3: Okay, so are we ready? Are we ready for season six?
Speaker 1: You guys so ready?
Speaker 2: I'm pretty ready.
Speaker 1: Maybe after a little nap, yeah, like a power now.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys love season five. We love you.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you next year aka next week.
Speaker 2: Bye.