1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is a production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:27,588 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Good Morning, What is up? Everybody? Welcome 3 00:00:27,588 --> 00:00:30,548 Speaker 1: in Good Morning Football. We are in New York City 4 00:00:30,588 --> 00:00:32,708 Speaker 1: because you guys are always in New York City for 5 00:00:32,748 --> 00:00:35,068 Speaker 1: the show. I'm Colleen Wolf. I'm only here for a 6 00:00:35,068 --> 00:00:37,508 Speaker 1: couple of days, but I'm loving it. And we got 7 00:00:37,588 --> 00:00:41,908 Speaker 1: Kyle Brant, Jason mccordy, Peter Schrager. This has been super fun. 8 00:00:42,148 --> 00:00:45,068 Speaker 1: Already had a great first hour. We have two more 9 00:00:45,148 --> 00:00:48,108 Speaker 1: good ones to go. But I just wanted to give 10 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:50,748 Speaker 1: a quick shout out to my grandma who's turning ninety 11 00:00:50,748 --> 00:00:54,628 Speaker 1: eight years old today. I'm heading to Philly to see her. 12 00:00:54,708 --> 00:00:57,828 Speaker 1: Wish her a happy birthday. What's your name, Gloria? Gloria? 13 00:00:57,868 --> 00:00:59,988 Speaker 1: And what do you call her as your grandmother? Just grandma? 14 00:01:00,068 --> 00:01:05,468 Speaker 1: Just Grandma's school, Yeah, mama and a pop up too. 15 00:01:05,828 --> 00:01:07,188 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's like more of a 16 00:01:07,228 --> 00:01:12,868 Speaker 1: regional thing birthday for Gloria. Great? Yeah, thank you, thank you. 17 00:01:13,028 --> 00:01:16,588 Speaker 1: And with that, let's go to the lead block. So 18 00:01:16,748 --> 00:01:20,388 Speaker 1: things could be looking up for Niners quarterback Trey Lance. 19 00:01:20,508 --> 00:01:24,628 Speaker 1: New video recently emerging of Trey working out alongside Patrick Mahomes. 20 00:01:24,908 --> 00:01:27,828 Speaker 1: So regardless of Lance's future at this point, it is 21 00:01:27,868 --> 00:01:29,988 Speaker 1: obviously great to see him out there. He looks healthy 22 00:01:30,068 --> 00:01:32,188 Speaker 1: after that Week two ankle injury that knocked him out 23 00:01:32,188 --> 00:01:34,828 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season last year. So now 24 00:01:34,828 --> 00:01:38,508 Speaker 1: with chimmyj in Vegas and the forty nine ers quarterback room, 25 00:01:38,548 --> 00:01:43,148 Speaker 1: it consists of newcomer Sam Darnold, the unlikely hero Brock Purty, 26 00:01:43,428 --> 00:01:47,348 Speaker 1: and the very very mysterious Tree Lance. The Niners, they 27 00:01:47,388 --> 00:01:50,188 Speaker 1: could keep Lance, they could trade Lance, but whatever ends 28 00:01:50,268 --> 00:01:53,548 Speaker 1: up happening, it would be great to establish his value 29 00:01:53,588 --> 00:01:56,428 Speaker 1: at this point. Because only seventeen starts at North Dakota 30 00:01:56,468 --> 00:02:00,188 Speaker 1: State and another four in the NFL, it's really difficult 31 00:02:00,228 --> 00:02:02,068 Speaker 1: to do so at this point, I just want to 32 00:02:02,108 --> 00:02:06,668 Speaker 1: know how should teams assess the worth of Trey Lance. Peter. 33 00:02:06,868 --> 00:02:10,468 Speaker 1: That's so difficult because even his fourth start in the 34 00:02:10,588 --> 00:02:13,028 Speaker 1: NFL last year we only saw him play for He 35 00:02:13,108 --> 00:02:16,188 Speaker 1: didn't even finish out the first quarter. Yeah, I have 36 00:02:16,308 --> 00:02:21,988 Speaker 1: no greater assessment of Trey Lance now in April of 37 00:02:22,188 --> 00:02:24,428 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three than I did when he was drafted 38 00:02:24,468 --> 00:02:27,388 Speaker 1: in April of twenty You have nothing, have nothing. There's 39 00:02:27,428 --> 00:02:30,108 Speaker 1: not a big enough sample size, and the way that 40 00:02:30,228 --> 00:02:33,948 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan used him did him no favors either. And 41 00:02:33,988 --> 00:02:37,108 Speaker 1: I main't hit my mean young Trey Lance. Kyle Shanahan 42 00:02:37,468 --> 00:02:39,428 Speaker 1: ran the hell out of Trey Lance as if he 43 00:02:39,548 --> 00:02:43,628 Speaker 1: was a running back. He's a quarterback. So the Shanahan 44 00:02:43,668 --> 00:02:47,068 Speaker 1: offense had these visions of what we can do. Sure enough, Lance, 45 00:02:47,548 --> 00:02:50,508 Speaker 1: eventually he's gonna book. There's the ankle. He's done. Like, 46 00:02:51,228 --> 00:02:53,948 Speaker 1: if you look at the numbers that he had, they 47 00:02:53,948 --> 00:02:57,028 Speaker 1: were outstanding. On the ground, he ran the ball sixteen 48 00:02:57,148 --> 00:03:01,588 Speaker 1: times in four quarters last season, sixteen times from a 49 00:03:01,668 --> 00:03:04,868 Speaker 1: quarterback spot. If you charted that out over the course 50 00:03:05,308 --> 00:03:09,748 Speaker 1: of an entire season. This is all fast on the 51 00:03:09,748 --> 00:03:12,868 Speaker 1: five quarters. This is what they planned on doing. I mean, honestly, 52 00:03:12,908 --> 00:03:14,588 Speaker 1: if you were to do this, so how am I 53 00:03:14,588 --> 00:03:17,268 Speaker 1: supposed to great him? Look, if Trey Lance was in 54 00:03:17,268 --> 00:03:20,348 Speaker 1: a traditional offense where he was, you know, running three 55 00:03:20,388 --> 00:03:23,068 Speaker 1: times and through the ball twenty times in his first 56 00:03:23,228 --> 00:03:26,028 Speaker 1: five quarters, maybe I'd have a better idea. But as 57 00:03:26,028 --> 00:03:27,948 Speaker 1: a rookie, he was thrown into the fire and did 58 00:03:27,988 --> 00:03:30,788 Speaker 1: not look great. In the off season, we heard amazing 59 00:03:30,828 --> 00:03:33,268 Speaker 1: things about him. Comes out. They lose to the Bears 60 00:03:33,268 --> 00:03:36,228 Speaker 1: in that first game in a rainy tornado windstorm that 61 00:03:37,308 --> 00:03:40,108 Speaker 1: nine game, and then he snaps his ankle in half, 62 00:03:40,108 --> 00:03:42,988 Speaker 1: and how can I possibly assess him? So if I'm 63 00:03:42,988 --> 00:03:45,468 Speaker 1: an opposing team, I look at him and I say, 64 00:03:45,828 --> 00:03:49,148 Speaker 1: not my problem. You guys took him third overall. Why 65 00:03:49,148 --> 00:03:50,948 Speaker 1: don't you guys figure out what he is and then 66 00:03:51,068 --> 00:03:53,108 Speaker 1: you make the value on him forty nine ers. If 67 00:03:53,148 --> 00:03:54,868 Speaker 1: you think he's worthy of a first round pick, and 68 00:03:54,908 --> 00:03:57,188 Speaker 1: you want to say that, we'll pick up and we'll listen, 69 00:03:57,188 --> 00:04:01,148 Speaker 1: it will politely decline third overall pick, have no idea 70 00:04:01,148 --> 00:04:03,268 Speaker 1: if he's a good quarterback or not. And that's not 71 00:04:03,388 --> 00:04:05,828 Speaker 1: his fault entirely. He had the wheels run off him, 72 00:04:05,828 --> 00:04:07,708 Speaker 1: and he had a freak injury and played in in 73 00:04:07,748 --> 00:04:09,788 Speaker 1: a windy rainstorm in the one game we saw him. 74 00:04:09,828 --> 00:04:11,948 Speaker 1: So how do I as sense Trey Lance right now? 75 00:04:12,148 --> 00:04:14,108 Speaker 1: Not my problem. There's a lot of their quarterbacks and 76 00:04:14,148 --> 00:04:17,468 Speaker 1: I'll deal with those. Not my problem. That's the headline 77 00:04:17,548 --> 00:04:20,228 Speaker 1: right there, Not my problem. I love that. If I'm 78 00:04:20,268 --> 00:04:22,588 Speaker 1: another team, you're looking at it, and you said you 79 00:04:22,628 --> 00:04:25,948 Speaker 1: don't feel any differently than the draft when he came out, 80 00:04:25,988 --> 00:04:27,988 Speaker 1: And that's where you have to go back for if 81 00:04:27,988 --> 00:04:30,028 Speaker 1: you're a team, you're looking at Trey Lance, and when 82 00:04:30,068 --> 00:04:33,108 Speaker 1: you do all this research and evaluation on quarterbacks as 83 00:04:33,108 --> 00:04:35,508 Speaker 1: they're coming out, he obviously went third overall of the 84 00:04:35,588 --> 00:04:37,628 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. So you go back and you say, 85 00:04:37,668 --> 00:04:39,548 Speaker 1: all right, what did we think of Trey Lance when 86 00:04:39,588 --> 00:04:42,428 Speaker 1: he was coming out on draft night? And then you 87 00:04:42,548 --> 00:04:45,388 Speaker 1: try to apply that to what you've seen in the preseason, 88 00:04:45,468 --> 00:04:48,188 Speaker 1: any reps that you've seen. Does that mean all right 89 00:04:48,468 --> 00:04:51,108 Speaker 1: because where we evaluate him last, oh, he's worth a 90 00:04:51,188 --> 00:04:53,708 Speaker 1: third round pick or wherever you had him in the draft. No, 91 00:04:54,068 --> 00:04:55,828 Speaker 1: But I think that's where you look at to try 92 00:04:55,908 --> 00:04:58,748 Speaker 1: to says what his future possibly could be. You saw 93 00:04:58,868 --> 00:05:01,988 Speaker 1: different traits, You saw different things within him to possibly 94 00:05:01,988 --> 00:05:04,628 Speaker 1: put a first round grade, a second round grade wherever 95 00:05:04,748 --> 00:05:06,948 Speaker 1: teams might have had him. And now as you look 96 00:05:06,988 --> 00:05:09,308 Speaker 1: at the short sample size that you've had of him 97 00:05:09,348 --> 00:05:11,548 Speaker 1: so far, do you see some of those trades come 98 00:05:11,588 --> 00:05:13,828 Speaker 1: into fruition. Do you see him making some of the 99 00:05:13,868 --> 00:05:16,108 Speaker 1: throws that you saw coming out of college or do 100 00:05:16,148 --> 00:05:18,028 Speaker 1: you not see them? I think that's where you start 101 00:05:18,148 --> 00:05:20,388 Speaker 1: and you say, all right, let's see if it's followed 102 00:05:20,388 --> 00:05:22,988 Speaker 1: through and if we plug him into our system. Do 103 00:05:23,028 --> 00:05:26,068 Speaker 1: we think we can further develop him in that offense 104 00:05:26,108 --> 00:05:28,508 Speaker 1: and see that those things can come true for our team. 105 00:05:28,748 --> 00:05:30,748 Speaker 1: Are you making a trade for Trade Lance now and 106 00:05:30,788 --> 00:05:32,428 Speaker 1: say all right, yeah, we're gonna trade for him and 107 00:05:32,468 --> 00:05:34,228 Speaker 1: this guy's going to be the future of our franchise. 108 00:05:34,268 --> 00:05:36,908 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. You have no idea how things are gonna 109 00:05:36,908 --> 00:05:39,348 Speaker 1: play out in San Francisco. Fast forward a few months. 110 00:05:39,428 --> 00:05:41,908 Speaker 1: He may end up brock Purdi's backup. Well, now you 111 00:05:41,988 --> 00:05:43,868 Speaker 1: evaluate him, and you assess him. He said, all right, 112 00:05:43,988 --> 00:05:46,308 Speaker 1: he's a backup quarterback in the NFL. Now we can 113 00:05:46,388 --> 00:05:49,028 Speaker 1: possibly make a trade based off of that. It's almost 114 00:05:49,068 --> 00:05:51,908 Speaker 1: impossible right now to say, all right, Trey Lance is 115 00:05:51,948 --> 00:05:54,068 Speaker 1: worth a first round draft pick and put a specific 116 00:05:54,188 --> 00:05:56,908 Speaker 1: number on that pick right now. But you try to 117 00:05:56,948 --> 00:05:58,188 Speaker 1: go back into the draft and I ask you a 118 00:05:58,268 --> 00:06:00,268 Speaker 1: questions from the table, and you can get sure and 119 00:06:00,308 --> 00:06:02,868 Speaker 1: Colleen as well, we've got the number two over all 120 00:06:02,868 --> 00:06:04,788 Speaker 1: pick from that draft, Zach Wilson, or we have a 121 00:06:04,788 --> 00:06:06,388 Speaker 1: full sample size, and it looks like the Jets have 122 00:06:06,428 --> 00:06:08,428 Speaker 1: said he's just not our guy, right, and then you 123 00:06:08,508 --> 00:06:11,708 Speaker 1: got Trey Lance. It is great unknown who would garner 124 00:06:11,828 --> 00:06:13,908 Speaker 1: more on the trade market and you think a Trey 125 00:06:14,428 --> 00:06:16,988 Speaker 1: Unknown who's coming off an injury, or Zach Wilson who 126 00:06:16,988 --> 00:06:19,548 Speaker 1: we saw and just wasn't ready yet. Unknown his Lance 127 00:06:19,668 --> 00:06:22,668 Speaker 1: question might be good, and Wilson has played a lot 128 00:06:22,708 --> 00:06:24,748 Speaker 1: and he hasn't looked good, but it's a great question. 129 00:06:24,908 --> 00:06:28,468 Speaker 1: The same draft two and three. Yeah, I know. Well, 130 00:06:28,508 --> 00:06:30,988 Speaker 1: the origin story of the Trey Lance thing is so fascinating. 131 00:06:31,348 --> 00:06:35,068 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan was so thirsty and just so like you 132 00:06:35,108 --> 00:06:37,068 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he was spitting dust. He's like, 133 00:06:37,428 --> 00:06:39,828 Speaker 1: I need him. I have to have him. It seemed 134 00:06:39,868 --> 00:06:42,788 Speaker 1: wildly irresponsible at the time, but if you remember the 135 00:06:42,908 --> 00:06:45,828 Speaker 1: context of Shanahan just so close and he had a 136 00:06:45,908 --> 00:06:48,708 Speaker 1: quarterback who was limited, and I think he looked around 137 00:06:48,708 --> 00:06:51,468 Speaker 1: and he said, I'm the offensive prodigy, and there's these 138 00:06:51,708 --> 00:06:54,468 Speaker 1: Avengers typed quarterbacks like Mahomes and Allen are all these 139 00:06:54,548 --> 00:06:56,668 Speaker 1: I need one of those. I need one. I can't 140 00:06:56,668 --> 00:06:59,108 Speaker 1: win this thing with Jimmy. So I see this guy 141 00:06:59,148 --> 00:07:01,948 Speaker 1: from North Dakota State and I have to have him. 142 00:07:02,148 --> 00:07:04,468 Speaker 1: I have to trade up to get him. And it 143 00:07:04,508 --> 00:07:06,668 Speaker 1: may end up being a cautionary tale. From swinging out 144 00:07:06,668 --> 00:07:08,188 Speaker 1: of your shoes to hit a five hundred foot home 145 00:07:08,228 --> 00:07:10,308 Speaker 1: run in the draft, and you look at somebody. Now 146 00:07:10,348 --> 00:07:13,028 Speaker 1: it's a different story, but somebody like Richardson out of Florida, 147 00:07:13,148 --> 00:07:14,988 Speaker 1: someone's gonna take him because they think they need a 148 00:07:15,028 --> 00:07:17,348 Speaker 1: player of mass destruction, not because they think he's the best. 149 00:07:17,868 --> 00:07:22,348 Speaker 1: I understand Trey Lance twenty one game started since high school, 150 00:07:22,508 --> 00:07:26,348 Speaker 1: since high school. Bryce Young has started twenty seven. He 151 00:07:26,428 --> 00:07:28,668 Speaker 1: hasn't been in the league for two years. Stroud started 152 00:07:28,708 --> 00:07:31,628 Speaker 1: twenty five, levis Is started twenty five. More stars just 153 00:07:31,748 --> 00:07:34,228 Speaker 1: under center, and so I just look at the trail 154 00:07:34,268 --> 00:07:36,308 Speaker 1: list thing and I feel bad for him because it's 155 00:07:36,308 --> 00:07:38,908 Speaker 1: different than Zach Wilson. He wasn't out there and being like, guys, 156 00:07:38,908 --> 00:07:40,668 Speaker 1: can this guy make a player? What? He was out 157 00:07:40,668 --> 00:07:42,028 Speaker 1: there in five seconds in the rain and then he 158 00:07:42,068 --> 00:07:44,148 Speaker 1: was gone. So I look at him and I look 159 00:07:44,148 --> 00:07:45,868 Speaker 1: at him, and I feel like he is so linked 160 00:07:45,948 --> 00:07:48,388 Speaker 1: right now this season to him and Jordan Love. Of 161 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,748 Speaker 1: these guys who have really important jobs in the scheme 162 00:07:50,788 --> 00:07:52,508 Speaker 1: of things are in both first round picks, but we 163 00:07:52,588 --> 00:07:54,748 Speaker 1: don't know squat about them. I don't know if that 164 00:07:54,788 --> 00:07:56,628 Speaker 1: guy's good. I don't know if Matt Florida knows that 165 00:07:56,628 --> 00:07:58,548 Speaker 1: guy's good. The only thing you would try to look 166 00:07:58,548 --> 00:08:02,068 Speaker 1: at with the forty nine ers is Shanahan must know 167 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:04,388 Speaker 1: if he's got it, at least from being in practice 168 00:08:04,388 --> 00:08:06,788 Speaker 1: with him so much and it's going through so many drills, 169 00:08:06,788 --> 00:08:08,548 Speaker 1: Like can't Kyle Shannon look at him, look at Trey 170 00:08:08,628 --> 00:08:10,468 Speaker 1: Lance and be like, look, I know it's been rough 171 00:08:10,508 --> 00:08:12,508 Speaker 1: and he got hurt, but believe me he's got it. 172 00:08:12,908 --> 00:08:15,268 Speaker 1: Or you know when you started training camping Brock parties 173 00:08:15,268 --> 00:08:16,748 Speaker 1: out there and it's just like it's an afterthought, then 174 00:08:16,748 --> 00:08:19,188 Speaker 1: it becomes a cautionary tale again of like don't be 175 00:08:19,268 --> 00:08:21,308 Speaker 1: so crazy at the draft where you just have to 176 00:08:21,348 --> 00:08:23,828 Speaker 1: find the next Patrick Mahomes who would do anything. And 177 00:08:23,868 --> 00:08:25,308 Speaker 1: I think that's what they might have done. I mean, 178 00:08:25,308 --> 00:08:27,908 Speaker 1: it was hard to justify that pick that they made, 179 00:08:27,908 --> 00:08:29,268 Speaker 1: in that move that they made. He even see it 180 00:08:29,268 --> 00:08:31,628 Speaker 1: out a year and it may have blown up in 181 00:08:31,628 --> 00:08:33,828 Speaker 1: their face. What's amazing is that in the last two 182 00:08:33,908 --> 00:08:36,228 Speaker 1: years since they've drafted Trey Lance, they went to an 183 00:08:36,308 --> 00:08:39,188 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game one year, an NFC champions Game next year. 184 00:08:39,228 --> 00:08:42,068 Speaker 1: Despite what appears to be at the time at the 185 00:08:42,148 --> 00:08:45,428 Speaker 1: moment right now, compared to the other talent at the 186 00:08:45,468 --> 00:08:48,148 Speaker 1: top of that draft, perhaps a with on the third 187 00:08:48,348 --> 00:08:50,508 Speaker 1: roll pick and training two first round picks. I know, 188 00:08:50,708 --> 00:08:53,588 Speaker 1: I honestly, I hate this so much for Trey Lance 189 00:08:54,068 --> 00:08:56,948 Speaker 1: because of all the expectations that were put upon him, 190 00:08:56,948 --> 00:08:58,868 Speaker 1: and he had no control over that. He had no 191 00:08:58,948 --> 00:09:01,868 Speaker 1: control over where he went in the draft or if 192 00:09:01,908 --> 00:09:03,628 Speaker 1: a team was going to trade up for him, and 193 00:09:03,628 --> 00:09:06,508 Speaker 1: then to get hurt the second week and watch the 194 00:09:06,588 --> 00:09:10,748 Speaker 1: quarterback that the team was trying to distance themselves from 195 00:09:10,788 --> 00:09:14,228 Speaker 1: the entire time that I've been with this team, I'm 196 00:09:14,268 --> 00:09:17,108 Speaker 1: sure that was difficult for him to watch and see 197 00:09:17,188 --> 00:09:20,668 Speaker 1: Jimmy g do such a great job with that offense 198 00:09:20,748 --> 00:09:24,108 Speaker 1: and then watch him go down and have another guy 199 00:09:24,388 --> 00:09:28,908 Speaker 1: come in and do even better than anyone on that team, 200 00:09:29,028 --> 00:09:31,908 Speaker 1: and you have it would be a lot easier, I think, 201 00:09:32,188 --> 00:09:37,188 Speaker 1: to assess the value of Trey Lance. If you didn't 202 00:09:37,228 --> 00:09:40,908 Speaker 1: have a finalist for Rookie Offensive Player of the Year 203 00:09:41,188 --> 00:09:44,628 Speaker 1: sitting on your roster, a guy who won his first 204 00:09:44,788 --> 00:09:48,708 Speaker 1: seven starts and took the team to an NFC championship game. 205 00:09:49,068 --> 00:09:52,668 Speaker 1: This is not a great situation. And we talked about 206 00:09:52,708 --> 00:09:56,828 Speaker 1: the game that Brat Purty or that Trey Lance played 207 00:09:56,948 --> 00:10:01,188 Speaker 1: in Chicago and the driving rain and that you can't avalue. 208 00:10:01,188 --> 00:10:03,548 Speaker 1: You can't. That doesn't even count for me as an 209 00:10:03,548 --> 00:10:06,428 Speaker 1: actual game that you can really evaluate, and you have 210 00:10:06,988 --> 00:10:11,668 Speaker 1: Purty who comes in and plays in Seattle. That game 211 00:10:11,708 --> 00:10:16,668 Speaker 1: for me was the defining moment for Brock Purty. And 212 00:10:17,148 --> 00:10:19,988 Speaker 1: you wondered whether or not he would wilt on the 213 00:10:20,108 --> 00:10:24,188 Speaker 1: road in a tough environment. This was a playoff type 214 00:10:24,268 --> 00:10:28,628 Speaker 1: atmosphere in his second career star and what did he do? 215 00:10:28,668 --> 00:10:31,988 Speaker 1: Two hundred and seventeen passing yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions. 216 00:10:32,228 --> 00:10:35,828 Speaker 1: I mean even in that game against Tom Brady and 217 00:10:35,868 --> 00:10:39,868 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. This was Brady's homecoming to the Bay Area 218 00:10:40,188 --> 00:10:43,588 Speaker 1: and opening drive touchdown before So I was talking about 219 00:10:43,588 --> 00:10:45,708 Speaker 1: Trey Lance because it was was drafted high. Yeah, yeah, that's 220 00:10:45,748 --> 00:10:48,748 Speaker 1: that's that's not a real reason years ago, because when 221 00:10:48,788 --> 00:10:52,028 Speaker 1: the draft evaluators are all paid six figures and there's 222 00:10:52,028 --> 00:10:53,708 Speaker 1: a room of twenty of them, and they all come 223 00:10:53,708 --> 00:10:56,788 Speaker 1: to a consensus and say, Brock Purty is thirty two 224 00:10:56,828 --> 00:10:59,588 Speaker 1: teams and Brock Purty is a sixth round pick in 225 00:10:59,628 --> 00:11:02,268 Speaker 1: thirty two teams, and then all the same evaluators nod 226 00:11:02,268 --> 00:11:04,268 Speaker 1: their head at Trey Lance and the three there has 227 00:11:04,508 --> 00:11:09,228 Speaker 1: to be some talent disparity and that Tray Lance can evaluate. Yeah, 228 00:11:09,668 --> 00:11:13,228 Speaker 1: third overall to the last pit. And now you're telling 229 00:11:13,268 --> 00:11:15,468 Speaker 1: me the last pig is better. And we're still so 230 00:11:15,508 --> 00:11:17,748 Speaker 1: close to that draft. It's not like you can say, 231 00:11:17,748 --> 00:11:19,828 Speaker 1: all right, well we drafted him. He just didn't have 232 00:11:19,868 --> 00:11:21,788 Speaker 1: the intangibles, he didn't work hard enough, all of these 233 00:11:21,788 --> 00:11:24,708 Speaker 1: different same situations. Yeah, and also like you can't you 234 00:11:24,708 --> 00:11:26,948 Speaker 1: can't see Tray Glance is a bust. No, he's not. 235 00:11:27,028 --> 00:11:29,908 Speaker 1: He hasn't been. Like, that's not it's not his fault. 236 00:11:29,948 --> 00:11:33,988 Speaker 1: That's why it's so difficult at DNPA. Yeah, would you 237 00:11:34,028 --> 00:11:37,188 Speaker 1: say it's not my problem? Yeah, I like that Niners problem. 238 00:11:37,748 --> 00:11:40,148 Speaker 1: So good luck with that. Um, we hope you can 239 00:11:40,188 --> 00:11:46,508 Speaker 1: figure that out. John Lynch, were now welcome to the show. 240 00:11:46,668 --> 00:11:48,748 Speaker 1: Former general manager in the league. He's got three Super 241 00:11:48,748 --> 00:11:50,908 Speaker 1: Bowl rings and he's a friend of ours. Let's welcome in, 242 00:11:51,028 --> 00:11:57,468 Speaker 1: Scott pet what's up, Good morning, everybody. Great to see you, 243 00:11:58,708 --> 00:12:02,548 Speaker 1: Great to see you. Our NFL network insider Ian Rappaport 244 00:12:03,068 --> 00:12:08,388 Speaker 1: reported that Lamar Jack recruited Odell Beckham Junior to Baltimore, 245 00:12:08,828 --> 00:12:11,868 Speaker 1: even though Lamar's future with the Ravens still seems very 246 00:12:11,948 --> 00:12:13,988 Speaker 1: up in the air, and he demanded a trade less 247 00:12:13,988 --> 00:12:17,708 Speaker 1: than two weeks ago. We have seen similar things happen 248 00:12:17,828 --> 00:12:21,468 Speaker 1: in a lot of different situations where Aaron Rodgers now 249 00:12:21,468 --> 00:12:23,828 Speaker 1: in New York seems to be the favor of signing 250 00:12:23,828 --> 00:12:26,708 Speaker 1: with the Jets. Would a front office have a problem 251 00:12:26,708 --> 00:12:30,548 Speaker 1: with a quarterback seemingly building his own team or should 252 00:12:30,548 --> 00:12:35,588 Speaker 1: that be seen as a benefit, Peter, It's absolutely a benefit. 253 00:12:35,628 --> 00:12:37,388 Speaker 1: I don't think he is a front office member or 254 00:12:37,388 --> 00:12:40,148 Speaker 1: a head coach that you should have any problem with 255 00:12:40,148 --> 00:12:43,428 Speaker 1: one of your good players that understands the culture of 256 00:12:43,468 --> 00:12:46,628 Speaker 1: your organization wanting to bring in people that they know 257 00:12:46,708 --> 00:12:48,628 Speaker 1: that can make you a better team. You know, a 258 00:12:48,748 --> 00:12:52,668 Speaker 1: front office members and head coaches were always telling players 259 00:12:52,668 --> 00:12:55,788 Speaker 1: and everyone around the organization to throw your ego out right, 260 00:12:55,908 --> 00:12:58,108 Speaker 1: do what is best for the team. Anything that you 261 00:12:58,148 --> 00:13:01,228 Speaker 1: can do, be a good teammate. This is all that's 262 00:13:01,228 --> 00:13:03,708 Speaker 1: happening here. If you've got a player on your football team, 263 00:13:03,868 --> 00:13:07,628 Speaker 1: and as long as everyone understands the lines of leadership 264 00:13:07,828 --> 00:13:09,828 Speaker 1: and who's going to make the final decisions, if you 265 00:13:09,828 --> 00:13:12,908 Speaker 1: can have a player, find another player, or encourage another 266 00:13:12,988 --> 00:13:15,748 Speaker 1: good player to come in, and that's going to fit 267 00:13:15,828 --> 00:13:18,308 Speaker 1: your culture, and make you a better football team, have 268 00:13:18,508 --> 00:13:20,028 Speaker 1: at it. Man. We used to do that at the 269 00:13:20,068 --> 00:13:22,588 Speaker 1: New England Patriots. And when we brought in Junior say out, 270 00:13:22,588 --> 00:13:25,628 Speaker 1: when we brought in Corey Dillon, Randy Moss, every one 271 00:13:25,628 --> 00:13:29,188 Speaker 1: of those players and other players, Wes Welker, they had 272 00:13:29,268 --> 00:13:33,068 Speaker 1: advocates in our building Bill and I listen to those players. 273 00:13:33,148 --> 00:13:37,068 Speaker 1: We enjoyed when those players helped us recruit the other players. 274 00:13:37,268 --> 00:13:39,228 Speaker 1: So to me, if it can help you build a 275 00:13:39,268 --> 00:13:42,108 Speaker 1: team and the guy's the right culture fit, right on, man, 276 00:13:42,228 --> 00:13:47,948 Speaker 1: let's go That happens in every job everywhere. People want 277 00:13:47,948 --> 00:13:52,668 Speaker 1: to bring in their people friends. Maybe if they know 278 00:13:52,908 --> 00:13:55,308 Speaker 1: that these people can do a good job and will 279 00:13:55,348 --> 00:13:58,228 Speaker 1: help with the success of an organization, then it makes 280 00:13:58,268 --> 00:14:01,508 Speaker 1: total sense. So speaking of quarterbacks who like to help 281 00:14:01,548 --> 00:14:04,388 Speaker 1: out in the front office, let's talk about this situation, 282 00:14:04,668 --> 00:14:07,628 Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodger situation. Who has the most leverage here, 283 00:14:08,708 --> 00:14:12,948 Speaker 1: the Packers, the Jets or Aaron Rodgers himself, which kind 284 00:14:12,948 --> 00:14:15,948 Speaker 1: of seems like he's holding up the situation. What's going on? 285 00:14:15,988 --> 00:14:19,148 Speaker 1: Scott College. I gotta tell you College, I think the 286 00:14:19,188 --> 00:14:21,028 Speaker 1: person with or the group of people with the most 287 00:14:21,108 --> 00:14:23,108 Speaker 1: leverage right now is the Green Bay Packers, and that 288 00:14:23,228 --> 00:14:27,348 Speaker 1: happened during Aaron Rodgers State of the Union address on 289 00:14:27,388 --> 00:14:30,908 Speaker 1: the Pat McAfee show. He shifted everything into the hand 290 00:14:31,028 --> 00:14:33,268 Speaker 1: of the Packers because he told the world he wasn't 291 00:14:33,268 --> 00:14:35,508 Speaker 1: going to be there, and he didn't want to be there. 292 00:14:35,788 --> 00:14:38,068 Speaker 1: The Jets have said publicly they want him, They're going 293 00:14:38,108 --> 00:14:41,748 Speaker 1: to take him. Every way you turn here, it looks 294 00:14:41,748 --> 00:14:44,108 Speaker 1: like he's going The Packers are sitting there every time 295 00:14:44,188 --> 00:14:47,308 Speaker 1: someone says something and they're thinking, Okay, these two twos 296 00:14:47,428 --> 00:14:49,868 Speaker 1: might be great, but I might be able to get more. 297 00:14:50,148 --> 00:14:53,148 Speaker 1: So to me, the player knows he's not going back, 298 00:14:53,548 --> 00:14:55,108 Speaker 1: the team knows that they're not going to have to 299 00:14:55,148 --> 00:14:57,988 Speaker 1: take him back, and there's no way that the Jets 300 00:14:57,988 --> 00:15:00,108 Speaker 1: can ever back out of this deal. The way things 301 00:15:00,148 --> 00:15:02,388 Speaker 1: had been talked about publicly, the way the Jet fan 302 00:15:02,468 --> 00:15:04,188 Speaker 1: base is, the way the city of New York is 303 00:15:04,228 --> 00:15:08,628 Speaker 1: right right now about Aaron Rodgers. There's absolutely no turning back. 304 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:10,988 Speaker 1: So the leverage sits in the hands of the Packers 305 00:15:11,068 --> 00:15:14,708 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, for sure. We heard GM Joe Douglas 306 00:15:14,708 --> 00:15:16,988 Speaker 1: the other day say Aaron is coming, he is on 307 00:15:17,268 --> 00:15:20,148 Speaker 1: his way, and a lot of that is surrounding around 308 00:15:20,308 --> 00:15:23,148 Speaker 1: draft picks. And as the draft is coming up, there's 309 00:15:23,148 --> 00:15:28,468 Speaker 1: so much excitement around Boston College's receivers Zay Flowers Scott 310 00:15:28,508 --> 00:15:30,788 Speaker 1: from your opinion, why do you think the hype has 311 00:15:30,828 --> 00:15:35,148 Speaker 1: grown so much on this young player? Well, Jason, I 312 00:15:35,228 --> 00:15:37,588 Speaker 1: think the hype is growing because he's a good player. 313 00:15:37,748 --> 00:15:40,388 Speaker 1: That's where the whole thing starts. It's also not a 314 00:15:40,388 --> 00:15:44,988 Speaker 1: great draft with top number one future receivers and to 315 00:15:45,028 --> 00:15:46,908 Speaker 1: be when you look at day Flowers, which I've spent 316 00:15:46,948 --> 00:15:50,308 Speaker 1: a lot of time look at him, he yes, is undersize, 317 00:15:50,348 --> 00:15:53,348 Speaker 1: He's not the ideal prototype size that you want. But 318 00:15:53,428 --> 00:15:56,868 Speaker 1: he is fast, he's quick, he's smart. The other thing 319 00:15:56,948 --> 00:15:58,708 Speaker 1: is there's a lot of fast players and a lot 320 00:15:58,708 --> 00:16:01,308 Speaker 1: of quick players that can't seem to get separation or 321 00:16:01,388 --> 00:16:04,468 Speaker 1: get open. He gets separation, he gets open, and he 322 00:16:04,508 --> 00:16:07,588 Speaker 1: has tremendous ball skills and he catches the ball. Is 323 00:16:07,628 --> 00:16:10,468 Speaker 1: crazy that sound. Now here's the other thing. You look 324 00:16:10,468 --> 00:16:13,108 Speaker 1: at who he is and how he's built. He is 325 00:16:13,228 --> 00:16:16,268 Speaker 1: all day tough. He's the fourteenth of fourteen kids. He's 326 00:16:16,308 --> 00:16:20,228 Speaker 1: been fighting for everything his entire life. And he has versatility. 327 00:16:20,268 --> 00:16:22,948 Speaker 1: He can play inside, he can play outside, and he 328 00:16:23,028 --> 00:16:25,428 Speaker 1: can return. But here's one of the other things I 329 00:16:25,468 --> 00:16:28,228 Speaker 1: think has gone overlooked. Last year, he could have come 330 00:16:28,268 --> 00:16:31,028 Speaker 1: out of Boston College. He could have made money. He's 331 00:16:31,028 --> 00:16:33,908 Speaker 1: a guy who's lifestyle, you know, he probably could have 332 00:16:33,988 --> 00:16:36,108 Speaker 1: used a little bit of money. But he sat there. 333 00:16:36,388 --> 00:16:38,308 Speaker 1: Not only did he not come out early, but he 334 00:16:38,388 --> 00:16:41,308 Speaker 1: chose not to transfer. He showed a degree of loyalty 335 00:16:41,988 --> 00:16:44,828 Speaker 1: to the program and the people that were there, and 336 00:16:45,028 --> 00:16:48,188 Speaker 1: showed maturity and good decision making. And I'm not saying 337 00:16:48,188 --> 00:16:50,748 Speaker 1: the players that transfer are not good decision makers, or 338 00:16:50,748 --> 00:16:53,108 Speaker 1: players that come out earlier not good decision makers. He 339 00:16:53,188 --> 00:16:55,508 Speaker 1: knew what was best for him, and he was willing 340 00:16:55,508 --> 00:16:59,068 Speaker 1: to settle his ego and make a good decision for 341 00:16:59,188 --> 00:17:01,988 Speaker 1: himself and his future because he knows he's getting drafted 342 00:17:02,068 --> 00:17:05,708 Speaker 1: higher now than he ever would have last year. Yeah, 343 00:17:05,708 --> 00:17:07,188 Speaker 1: we had him and we loved him. Scott. We love 344 00:17:07,188 --> 00:17:08,628 Speaker 1: having you two. One of the things we enjoy about 345 00:17:08,628 --> 00:17:10,908 Speaker 1: your appearance with Scott as you're always watching and listening 346 00:17:11,028 --> 00:17:13,388 Speaker 1: before you come on. Always you always know what we're 347 00:17:13,428 --> 00:17:16,588 Speaker 1: talking about. In this case, Trey Lance. We're just talking 348 00:17:16,588 --> 00:17:19,548 Speaker 1: about him. Last segment, you are listening. We can't really 349 00:17:19,588 --> 00:17:22,348 Speaker 1: put a finger on the Trey Lance state of the nation, 350 00:17:22,748 --> 00:17:27,068 Speaker 1: the legacy, the future Injured comes back. Now it's brought 351 00:17:27,108 --> 00:17:29,508 Speaker 1: Purdy's Kyle, Shannah, just Scott, help us, please just jump 352 00:17:29,508 --> 00:17:31,588 Speaker 1: into this. How should we assess where we are with 353 00:17:31,668 --> 00:17:35,068 Speaker 1: Trey Lance right now? Well, here's gonna say, Kyle. You 354 00:17:35,068 --> 00:17:36,748 Speaker 1: mentioned that I watch you guys before I come on. 355 00:17:36,788 --> 00:17:38,428 Speaker 1: And there's a reason, and I don't say this for 356 00:17:38,468 --> 00:17:40,748 Speaker 1: any reason, that it's true. You guys know what you're 357 00:17:40,788 --> 00:17:42,588 Speaker 1: talking about. All of you know what you're talking about. 358 00:17:42,628 --> 00:17:44,708 Speaker 1: You do a terrific job. I learned when I listened 359 00:17:44,748 --> 00:17:48,188 Speaker 1: to you. Now, in the case of this, I think 360 00:17:48,228 --> 00:17:52,388 Speaker 1: you guys nailed it. He's only played seventeen games in college. 361 00:17:52,428 --> 00:17:54,188 Speaker 1: That was all we had to look at. It was 362 00:17:54,228 --> 00:17:57,108 Speaker 1: at the FCS level, so we never knew really what 363 00:17:57,188 --> 00:18:00,468 Speaker 1: kind of player he was. He's only played four NFL games. 364 00:18:00,668 --> 00:18:03,508 Speaker 1: We're sitting here. We do not have enough information to 365 00:18:03,548 --> 00:18:06,348 Speaker 1: assess who he is, what he is, and what his 366 00:18:06,468 --> 00:18:08,908 Speaker 1: future is. But here's the big thing is I look 367 00:18:08,948 --> 00:18:12,348 Speaker 1: at this. You know you all mention this. He's in 368 00:18:12,348 --> 00:18:15,068 Speaker 1: a situation that's not his fault. He was picked where 369 00:18:15,108 --> 00:18:17,628 Speaker 1: he was picked because a team fell in love with him. 370 00:18:17,868 --> 00:18:20,508 Speaker 1: Good for him. That's great, But what happens this time 371 00:18:20,548 --> 00:18:23,068 Speaker 1: of year that's very unfortunate to players. And I'm wondering 372 00:18:23,108 --> 00:18:26,828 Speaker 1: about a player like Anthony Richardson who, for whatever reason, 373 00:18:26,948 --> 00:18:29,588 Speaker 1: the media falls in love with him. The media promotes him, 374 00:18:29,668 --> 00:18:33,868 Speaker 1: we promote him, and the player becomes this fictional character 375 00:18:34,268 --> 00:18:36,388 Speaker 1: that teams start to fall in love with and start 376 00:18:36,388 --> 00:18:38,628 Speaker 1: to think, Oh, if I can get him and his tools, 377 00:18:38,668 --> 00:18:41,868 Speaker 1: his upside, I'm going to make it great. He's in 378 00:18:41,868 --> 00:18:44,348 Speaker 1: a situation that's not his fault. We don't know what 379 00:18:44,428 --> 00:18:49,348 Speaker 1: he's going to be. Sometimes expectations really derail a player's 380 00:18:49,428 --> 00:18:53,148 Speaker 1: career and their ability and chances to develop, and that's 381 00:18:53,148 --> 00:18:55,068 Speaker 1: a problem. And I hope for Trey Lance that that's 382 00:18:55,108 --> 00:18:57,068 Speaker 1: not the case. I hope he gets healthy, and I 383 00:18:57,108 --> 00:19:06,108 Speaker 1: hope that Kyle can get him on track. Perfect play 384 00:19:06,148 --> 00:19:09,308 Speaker 1: to start the outer here a good warner that's not 385 00:19:09,988 --> 00:19:14,828 Speaker 1: lead block. Yesterday, at this time, we were discussing Carson 386 00:19:14,868 --> 00:19:17,228 Speaker 1: Palver's claim that Joe Burrow is the best quarterback in 387 00:19:17,228 --> 00:19:20,588 Speaker 1: the NFL. So some might say that the video you're 388 00:19:20,588 --> 00:19:24,708 Speaker 1: watching disproves that some of those people might be at 389 00:19:24,748 --> 00:19:29,068 Speaker 1: this table. But that discussion led us to the following question. 390 00:19:30,948 --> 00:19:33,108 Speaker 1: I think the interested in debate is is Burrow the 391 00:19:33,148 --> 00:19:35,388 Speaker 1: second best quarterback in the NFL? Like if we're all 392 00:19:35,388 --> 00:19:38,468 Speaker 1: saying is Burrow that guy? Because then there's like six 393 00:19:38,548 --> 00:19:40,268 Speaker 1: dudes they're like, oh, excuse me, hold on with you 394 00:19:40,308 --> 00:19:42,388 Speaker 1: know Dan, you're an Alan and then Jalen, Like I 395 00:19:43,868 --> 00:19:46,028 Speaker 1: still think that I would rather have Alan just because 396 00:19:46,028 --> 00:19:47,668 Speaker 1: I think he is more talented and I think he 397 00:19:47,708 --> 00:19:49,428 Speaker 1: has more stuff going on with the running and everything. 398 00:19:49,428 --> 00:19:50,868 Speaker 1: But now we're in a debate. Yeah, I mean you 399 00:19:50,868 --> 00:19:53,668 Speaker 1: can go into Herbert and Hurts, like both the same 400 00:19:53,748 --> 00:20:01,148 Speaker 1: draft class and we're tremendous talents. It's a great question. 401 00:20:01,428 --> 00:20:04,268 Speaker 1: But one of the quarterbacks that was brought up there, 402 00:20:04,508 --> 00:20:07,268 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, a guy who came into the year last 403 00:20:07,308 --> 00:20:10,268 Speaker 1: season with a lot of question marks coming off that 404 00:20:10,348 --> 00:20:14,228 Speaker 1: wild card game against the Buccaneers and Tom Brady Um. 405 00:20:14,268 --> 00:20:17,668 Speaker 1: But you know, he managed to obviously prove a ton 406 00:20:17,668 --> 00:20:20,668 Speaker 1: of people wrong. Have so much success, go to the court, 407 00:20:20,908 --> 00:20:23,868 Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl, throw four touchdowns in that game, 408 00:20:24,188 --> 00:20:26,748 Speaker 1: have a tremendous game aside from the turnover, and the 409 00:20:26,788 --> 00:20:30,908 Speaker 1: season itself was absolutely a win for him and the Eagles. 410 00:20:30,988 --> 00:20:35,188 Speaker 1: So who is your wild card pick to enter this 411 00:20:35,868 --> 00:20:40,788 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts type season for twenty twenty three. Peter the 412 00:20:40,908 --> 00:20:45,468 Speaker 1: lyric in a famous rap hip hops it's a freeway. 413 00:20:47,868 --> 00:20:56,548 Speaker 1: I like big butts, and I cannot such a currency, ladies. 414 00:20:56,668 --> 00:21:02,988 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, allow myself to reintroduce myself. Yea, my name 415 00:21:03,068 --> 00:21:07,828 Speaker 1: is Matthew Stafford. Stafford has been written off already, as 416 00:21:07,828 --> 00:21:10,148 Speaker 1: if this was a one and done and the Rams 417 00:21:10,148 --> 00:21:12,828 Speaker 1: are a terrible team and he's over, and it was 418 00:21:12,868 --> 00:21:16,188 Speaker 1: almost like it was some weird lucid dream that happened 419 00:21:16,228 --> 00:21:19,388 Speaker 1: in that season. We're so far removed from it that 420 00:21:19,428 --> 00:21:24,428 Speaker 1: we forget that Stafford had an unbelievable twenty twenty two season, 421 00:21:24,508 --> 00:21:26,748 Speaker 1: one of the best seasons we've seen from a quarterback 422 00:21:26,788 --> 00:21:29,828 Speaker 1: in recent history, one of the clutchest performances. And I 423 00:21:29,908 --> 00:21:35,148 Speaker 1: add back to this, Stafford Cup are fully healthy. Both 424 00:21:35,348 --> 00:21:39,468 Speaker 1: players plan on participating in the off season this year. 425 00:21:39,908 --> 00:21:42,468 Speaker 1: Neither did a thing in the off season last year. 426 00:21:42,988 --> 00:21:44,788 Speaker 1: Both players have already been at it, and I could 427 00:21:44,788 --> 00:21:47,108 Speaker 1: tell you this, Sean McVay isn't coming back, and Sean 428 00:21:47,188 --> 00:21:49,668 Speaker 1: McVay isn't double downing if he doesn't believe that Matthew 429 00:21:49,668 --> 00:21:52,908 Speaker 1: Stafford is going to be his quarterback, Stafford and McVeagh. 430 00:21:52,988 --> 00:21:55,068 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm revealing anything that's gonna be wild. 431 00:21:55,028 --> 00:21:57,748 Speaker 1: I can't wait. They've been playing tennis, and I say tennis. 432 00:21:57,948 --> 00:22:01,548 Speaker 1: We're talking multiple times a week, playing tennis, getting after 433 00:22:01,588 --> 00:22:04,348 Speaker 1: it in the sweat. And I'm not pickaball, none of that, 434 00:22:04,468 --> 00:22:07,588 Speaker 1: pick not tam. Are they playing as doubles partners or 435 00:22:07,628 --> 00:22:10,348 Speaker 1: against against each other? Okay? And they're getting it in 436 00:22:10,388 --> 00:22:12,068 Speaker 1: And I know that's everyone's drolling their eyes side like 437 00:22:12,228 --> 00:22:15,348 Speaker 1: a shrinker with some stupid nugget about them. No, but 438 00:22:15,428 --> 00:22:17,508 Speaker 1: they they're they're they're at a good place right now. 439 00:22:17,628 --> 00:22:21,948 Speaker 1: And I believe that Stafford last year had the unfortunate injury, 440 00:22:21,988 --> 00:22:25,508 Speaker 1: but even before that had such a wild offseason of 441 00:22:25,948 --> 00:22:28,988 Speaker 1: this banquet, this commercial, this guy, and I don't blame 442 00:22:29,028 --> 00:22:33,188 Speaker 1: them at all. This year, these guys are already stacking 443 00:22:33,228 --> 00:22:37,188 Speaker 1: the chips of everyone saying that the NFC West is 444 00:22:37,308 --> 00:22:39,828 Speaker 1: terrible or the NFC is wide, But what about us? 445 00:22:39,868 --> 00:22:43,108 Speaker 1: And I think Matthew Stafford, when healthy, can still throw 446 00:22:43,148 --> 00:22:45,068 Speaker 1: the ball as well as anyone. The question is his health. 447 00:22:45,228 --> 00:22:48,068 Speaker 1: And right now I'm being told he looks good, he's 448 00:22:48,068 --> 00:22:49,708 Speaker 1: looking the part, and I think he's going to be 449 00:22:49,788 --> 00:22:52,068 Speaker 1: participating in all the offseason stuff, so we'll know if 450 00:22:52,068 --> 00:22:54,388 Speaker 1: his if he's got bothers with injuries or not by 451 00:22:54,428 --> 00:22:55,948 Speaker 1: the time the season starts. But I think he's gonna 452 00:22:55,988 --> 00:22:59,468 Speaker 1: re enter that conversation. Yeah, it's burrowing mahomes, but I'm 453 00:22:59,468 --> 00:23:02,868 Speaker 1: gonna put Stafford's name back in there and say, don't 454 00:23:02,908 --> 00:23:12,508 Speaker 1: you forget about me? Simple minds? Did you with lyrics? 455 00:23:13,228 --> 00:23:20,388 Speaker 1: You simple minds? That was amazing? Tis Breakfast Club? It's 456 00:23:20,388 --> 00:23:23,268 Speaker 1: really good. I bet McVeigh just works that baseline like 457 00:23:23,268 --> 00:23:26,228 Speaker 1: a maniac, like a young Michael Chang or something. Got 458 00:23:26,228 --> 00:23:31,908 Speaker 1: the right gear on right? Yeah, Veronica point maybe? Um 459 00:23:32,028 --> 00:23:35,468 Speaker 1: no picks of mcvaghan and Stafford playing tennis where they 460 00:23:35,548 --> 00:23:43,988 Speaker 1: play of course? Yeah? All right, so Peter did lyrics. 461 00:23:44,388 --> 00:23:46,508 Speaker 1: There's a there's a song you talked about a guy 462 00:23:46,668 --> 00:23:49,028 Speaker 1: kind of reintroduced himself. There's an other songs. Can't you 463 00:23:49,068 --> 00:23:51,628 Speaker 1: see me standing here with my back against the record machine? 464 00:23:51,628 --> 00:23:53,548 Speaker 1: Ain't the worst of seeing kid? You see what I mean? 465 00:23:54,028 --> 00:23:59,548 Speaker 1: Might as well jump means you know that song songed Van. 466 00:24:00,428 --> 00:24:03,108 Speaker 1: I'm talking about a guy making a jump, not rejoining 467 00:24:03,148 --> 00:24:07,308 Speaker 1: the party. Um, there's the team I swear they still exist. 468 00:24:07,748 --> 00:24:10,788 Speaker 1: They don't have a really high, glamorous draft pick, they 469 00:24:10,868 --> 00:24:14,268 Speaker 1: weren't in the playoffs last year, but I swear the 470 00:24:14,308 --> 00:24:17,308 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers still exists. I don't know if we've mentioned 471 00:24:17,348 --> 00:24:19,788 Speaker 1: their name since December. I don't know if we've talked 472 00:24:19,788 --> 00:24:22,268 Speaker 1: about this guy. But I'm into Kenny Pickett. I'm developing 473 00:24:22,428 --> 00:24:26,028 Speaker 1: a sort of football crush and Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett, 474 00:24:26,228 --> 00:24:29,988 Speaker 1: this sleepy little run won his last five games that 475 00:24:30,028 --> 00:24:33,348 Speaker 1: he started and finished. He threw one interception in his 476 00:24:33,468 --> 00:24:37,548 Speaker 1: last eight games. He had two game winning touchdown passes 477 00:24:37,548 --> 00:24:39,868 Speaker 1: in the final minute of the fourth quarter, the first 478 00:24:39,948 --> 00:24:43,548 Speaker 1: rookie and history to do it. Guys. I like Kenny Pickett, 479 00:24:43,788 --> 00:24:46,188 Speaker 1: and I know that they're not super sexy, and it's 480 00:24:46,228 --> 00:24:48,148 Speaker 1: not all this guy and that guy in Burrow and 481 00:24:48,228 --> 00:24:50,628 Speaker 1: Alan and Mahomes. How cool would it be if in 482 00:24:50,668 --> 00:24:56,148 Speaker 1: that crazy AFC quarterback Fray, another challenger arose and we're like, wow, 483 00:24:56,188 --> 00:24:58,708 Speaker 1: pickets really slick it, slinging it. It's got pick it 484 00:24:58,828 --> 00:25:01,668 Speaker 1: to pickens. And I'd like what they did last year. 485 00:25:01,708 --> 00:25:04,068 Speaker 1: And if you if you google Kenny Pickett right now, 486 00:25:04,388 --> 00:25:07,388 Speaker 1: there's just nothing, there's no story there's no Instagram post, 487 00:25:07,388 --> 00:25:09,268 Speaker 1: there's no tweet, there's no cool thing of him working 488 00:25:09,268 --> 00:25:11,588 Speaker 1: out with teammates. It's Mike Tomlin saying work centered about 489 00:25:11,628 --> 00:25:14,748 Speaker 1: his second year. It's so Pittsburgh. It's just perfect, low 490 00:25:14,828 --> 00:25:18,348 Speaker 1: key workman like. I love how he finished the year. 491 00:25:18,508 --> 00:25:20,508 Speaker 1: I love how he's gonna start next year. If you're 492 00:25:20,508 --> 00:25:22,148 Speaker 1: looking for someone to be like, Wow, what the hell 493 00:25:22,188 --> 00:25:24,708 Speaker 1: I didn't see Kenny Pickett, I do. I want to 494 00:25:24,748 --> 00:25:27,748 Speaker 1: know right now. I've got stock right now if you 495 00:25:27,788 --> 00:25:29,908 Speaker 1: want some, it's there to be had. All the other 496 00:25:29,908 --> 00:25:31,548 Speaker 1: stock for all these other guys was gone. If you 497 00:25:31,588 --> 00:25:33,388 Speaker 1: had Jalen hurt Stock to being the last year, God 498 00:25:33,388 --> 00:25:35,628 Speaker 1: bless you. You have an eight bedroom mansion. Now I 499 00:25:35,668 --> 00:25:37,588 Speaker 1: have pick at Stock. I like him. I like the 500 00:25:37,588 --> 00:25:39,588 Speaker 1: way it conducts his business. I like with Pittsburgh's doing 501 00:25:39,668 --> 00:25:43,148 Speaker 1: very quietly around him. Seventeenth pick No one's talking about it. 502 00:25:43,228 --> 00:25:45,388 Speaker 1: I like Pickett. All right, Well, I appreciate you from 503 00:25:45,468 --> 00:25:48,228 Speaker 1: from ukb's last year, Kenny Pickett. You were saying from 504 00:25:48,228 --> 00:25:50,948 Speaker 1: early on, put Kenny Pickett in hell. I'm even recalling 505 00:25:50,948 --> 00:25:52,468 Speaker 1: for him to possibly be a Rookie of the Year. 506 00:25:52,468 --> 00:25:54,148 Speaker 1: It got in there a play. Well, so I Love, 507 00:25:54,788 --> 00:25:56,908 Speaker 1: I'm going on another guy that needs to step on 508 00:25:56,948 --> 00:25:59,388 Speaker 1: the scene. And if we're talking about lyrics, he talked 509 00:25:59,388 --> 00:26:02,428 Speaker 1: about jay z as a song with j Cole. Every 510 00:26:02,548 --> 00:26:06,948 Speaker 1: day a star is they talked about it. Another quarterback. 511 00:26:06,988 --> 00:26:09,028 Speaker 1: Guys a ton of question marks because of the guy 512 00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:12,748 Speaker 1: that precedes him. It's Jordan Love out in Green Bay. 513 00:26:13,188 --> 00:26:15,868 Speaker 1: What an opportunity for him to step on the scene. 514 00:26:16,068 --> 00:26:18,468 Speaker 1: There's been so many question marks. Every day of the 515 00:26:18,468 --> 00:26:21,748 Speaker 1: off season, We've talked about Aaron Rodgers leaving Green Bay 516 00:26:21,988 --> 00:26:24,948 Speaker 1: because of Jordan Love being there and la floor and 517 00:26:25,068 --> 00:26:29,268 Speaker 1: the organization feels comfortable with him stepping up, him stepping 518 00:26:29,308 --> 00:26:31,388 Speaker 1: on the scene, playing at an elite level. It is 519 00:26:31,468 --> 00:26:34,148 Speaker 1: all set up for him. He's going into his fourth season, 520 00:26:34,228 --> 00:26:37,028 Speaker 1: he's only twenty four and a perfect thing about that. 521 00:26:37,068 --> 00:26:39,668 Speaker 1: We just watched Daniel Jones do it well. They pick 522 00:26:39,748 --> 00:26:41,908 Speaker 1: up his fifth year option. We don't know, but if 523 00:26:41,948 --> 00:26:43,948 Speaker 1: he goes out there and he balls and he has 524 00:26:44,028 --> 00:26:47,068 Speaker 1: himself a season we're talking about. Jordan Love is one 525 00:26:47,108 --> 00:26:50,228 Speaker 1: of the better quarterbacks in the NFC. Back to Brinks 526 00:26:50,268 --> 00:26:53,228 Speaker 1: truck up and now he's cashing in. Because when you 527 00:26:53,308 --> 00:26:56,108 Speaker 1: play those first few years in the NFL. Who cares. 528 00:26:56,228 --> 00:26:58,908 Speaker 1: No one's giving you the contract early on anyway. So 529 00:26:59,028 --> 00:27:01,148 Speaker 1: for Jordan Love, this is great. You've been sitting You've 530 00:27:01,148 --> 00:27:05,188 Speaker 1: been watching Aaron Rodgers go to work every angle day. 531 00:27:05,308 --> 00:27:08,068 Speaker 1: Now there's a thousand questions on if he's going to 532 00:27:08,108 --> 00:27:10,508 Speaker 1: be the guy step up to the plate, make a 533 00:27:10,548 --> 00:27:13,188 Speaker 1: giant leap and let a star be born. Are you 534 00:27:13,228 --> 00:27:15,708 Speaker 1: buying stock? Do you have Jordan Love stock? Are you waiting? 535 00:27:15,708 --> 00:27:18,588 Speaker 1: I'm buying low right now, buying low and waiting for 536 00:27:18,628 --> 00:27:22,748 Speaker 1: it to cashing. Okay, all right, all right, guys, people 537 00:27:22,748 --> 00:27:27,028 Speaker 1: that doubted this quarterback, they will indeed be the shook 538 00:27:27,028 --> 00:27:31,148 Speaker 1: once after twenty twenty three? Who is this mob? Deep? 539 00:27:31,468 --> 00:27:34,468 Speaker 1: Come on, Kyle Jameson, got it all right, it's for 540 00:27:34,708 --> 00:27:39,468 Speaker 1: just a small deep? What is the track shoes? Yeah, 541 00:27:39,508 --> 00:27:42,708 Speaker 1: oh you're gonna love look at great. I'm he's more 542 00:27:42,708 --> 00:27:45,588 Speaker 1: of a goody mop then not deep. That's got it? Okay? 543 00:27:45,748 --> 00:27:48,388 Speaker 1: So um yeah, Because like people just kept passing him by. 544 00:27:49,388 --> 00:27:52,468 Speaker 1: The Justin Fields fixed. So listen, let me talk about 545 00:27:52,508 --> 00:27:55,668 Speaker 1: this because last year we saw Justin Fields struggle in 546 00:27:55,708 --> 00:27:58,508 Speaker 1: the passing game because look when he was working with 547 00:27:58,948 --> 00:28:01,788 Speaker 1: at the pass catch or position, he really didn't get 548 00:28:01,828 --> 00:28:04,188 Speaker 1: any help whatsoever. He was tremendous when he took off, 549 00:28:04,468 --> 00:28:06,388 Speaker 1: was able to run and use his legs. But now 550 00:28:06,788 --> 00:28:09,988 Speaker 1: this team brought in Dj Moore, who's coming off a 551 00:28:10,068 --> 00:28:14,388 Speaker 1: career year, had seven touchdowns with the Panthers, and look 552 00:28:14,388 --> 00:28:17,548 Speaker 1: at the quarterback that's the quarterbacks that he was playing 553 00:28:17,588 --> 00:28:21,628 Speaker 1: with there. This team has a flew of draft capital 554 00:28:21,708 --> 00:28:26,268 Speaker 1: that they can use to help protect Justin fields. He 555 00:28:26,308 --> 00:28:28,868 Speaker 1: was sacked fifty five times last year. I mean, part 556 00:28:28,908 --> 00:28:30,988 Speaker 1: of the problem is because he didn't have anyone to 557 00:28:30,988 --> 00:28:33,588 Speaker 1: throw too. So it all kind of works together here. 558 00:28:34,068 --> 00:28:36,788 Speaker 1: And I think that when you look at that division, 559 00:28:37,308 --> 00:28:40,628 Speaker 1: it is obviously changing. It is in flux. This is 560 00:28:40,708 --> 00:28:44,388 Speaker 1: a situation where you bring in some help for Justin 561 00:28:44,468 --> 00:28:48,988 Speaker 1: fields and he can bring you some really huge changes 562 00:28:49,268 --> 00:28:52,068 Speaker 1: in Chicago. My favorite thing about Dj Moore, I've said 563 00:28:52,068 --> 00:28:54,788 Speaker 1: this is that he already, at twenty five years old, 564 00:28:54,868 --> 00:28:57,308 Speaker 1: has more receiving yards than the Bears all time leaders 565 00:28:58,148 --> 00:29:00,828 Speaker 1: Tony Morton. Yeah, it's about five thousand and change. He's 566 00:29:00,868 --> 00:29:02,948 Speaker 1: twenty five. He already has more than the all time leaders. 567 00:29:03,028 --> 00:29:05,788 Speaker 1: I believable, and like all due respect to Dj Moore, 568 00:29:05,828 --> 00:29:07,908 Speaker 1: he's never considered one of the top three guys in 569 00:29:07,948 --> 00:29:09,628 Speaker 1: the league and he's already. That just tells you how 570 00:29:09,628 --> 00:29:11,588 Speaker 1: bad the Bears franchise has been with receivers. Or is 571 00:29:11,628 --> 00:29:15,028 Speaker 1: it a weather thing. It's probably more the first. Actually, yeah, 572 00:29:15,228 --> 00:29:17,708 Speaker 1: there's some bad weather cities that have great receivers. They 573 00:29:17,748 --> 00:29:19,108 Speaker 1: need a guy, and I think they got a guy. Colleen, 574 00:29:19,148 --> 00:29:22,908 Speaker 1: Are you buying Justin Fields? Yes, I'm buying. I saw 575 00:29:23,068 --> 00:29:26,268 Speaker 1: flashes of it last year, didn't you. Yeah, and he 576 00:29:26,388 --> 00:29:29,588 Speaker 1: I saw the flashes with the cast that he had 577 00:29:30,708 --> 00:29:35,308 Speaker 1: anyone bring in talented two weeks where it's like, now, 578 00:29:35,308 --> 00:29:37,348 Speaker 1: hold on, there's a lot of logic actually for you 579 00:29:37,388 --> 00:29:40,908 Speaker 1: have the number one picking someone and moving on. They said, nah, 580 00:29:40,948 --> 00:29:42,628 Speaker 1: get out of here. We're not getting close to the draft. 581 00:29:42,748 --> 00:29:49,028 Speaker 1: Just Fields our guy back over a good morning Football 582 00:29:49,108 --> 00:29:52,188 Speaker 1: is pal Time for another edition of Next Gen Chats, 583 00:29:52,388 --> 00:29:55,228 Speaker 1: but we get to know the next generation of NFL 584 00:29:55,348 --> 00:29:59,108 Speaker 1: stars and just four questions. Our next guest was a 585 00:29:59,268 --> 00:30:03,508 Speaker 1: human highlight reel at the University of Virginia. Please welcome 586 00:30:03,548 --> 00:30:11,388 Speaker 1: wide receiver Taya done. Yeah, we're doing good. It's good 587 00:30:11,428 --> 00:30:15,108 Speaker 1: to see you. You've officially officially finished everything, Singer Bowl 588 00:30:15,468 --> 00:30:18,348 Speaker 1: combine and of course finishing up with your pro day. 589 00:30:18,628 --> 00:30:21,108 Speaker 1: You've also met with a couple of teams this past week, 590 00:30:21,148 --> 00:30:23,868 Speaker 1: including the Packers and the Bears. We want to know 591 00:30:24,148 --> 00:30:27,508 Speaker 1: how those meetings went. Nervous, excited, and then what do 592 00:30:27,548 --> 00:30:31,348 Speaker 1: you think you can bring to an NFL team? UM? 593 00:30:31,388 --> 00:30:36,028 Speaker 1: So just to start, you know, it's been a great experience, uh, 594 00:30:36,108 --> 00:30:38,828 Speaker 1: you know, going meet going up to meet with teams. 595 00:30:39,108 --> 00:30:43,268 Speaker 1: UM saying how things work you know in the systems. UM. 596 00:30:43,268 --> 00:30:45,508 Speaker 1: But you know both of them weren't very so far. 597 00:30:46,108 --> 00:30:50,668 Speaker 1: Everything ain't been great from us, you know event standpoint 598 00:30:50,708 --> 00:30:55,388 Speaker 1: where like Pro Day, UM, Combine Singer Bowl, UM, everything 599 00:30:55,508 --> 00:30:58,628 Speaker 1: been going going great for me. UM. Just getting closer 600 00:30:58,668 --> 00:31:02,428 Speaker 1: to you know, journey, the end of the journey. UM. So, 601 00:31:05,588 --> 00:31:08,908 Speaker 1: let's talk about one of the best highlights that we 602 00:31:09,028 --> 00:31:11,308 Speaker 1: have seen in recent years. Just goes back to twenty 603 00:31:11,348 --> 00:31:14,268 Speaker 1: twenty one. You guys are playing the Miami Hurricanes. We've 604 00:31:14,308 --> 00:31:17,068 Speaker 1: all seen this play was on loop. It's one of 605 00:31:17,068 --> 00:31:20,388 Speaker 1: the great catches you'll see in college football. Quarterback throws 606 00:31:20,388 --> 00:31:22,108 Speaker 1: it and you go out there and you go out 607 00:31:22,148 --> 00:31:24,628 Speaker 1: and get that thing. Take us through how you went 608 00:31:24,668 --> 00:31:28,068 Speaker 1: through three different defenders in the end zone and managed 609 00:31:28,108 --> 00:31:32,068 Speaker 1: to come down and grab this ball. I just I 610 00:31:32,108 --> 00:31:35,588 Speaker 1: just ain't wanted to build interception. Uh you know, I 611 00:31:35,548 --> 00:31:39,868 Speaker 1: always just said my QB if he throw it my way, 612 00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:43,028 Speaker 1: you know, it's either me and nobody get it. Um. 613 00:31:43,108 --> 00:31:46,908 Speaker 1: So you know, just trying to throw up put my 614 00:31:46,948 --> 00:31:49,468 Speaker 1: body online for you know, trying to get the ball 615 00:31:49,948 --> 00:31:53,668 Speaker 1: anyway I can. Um. And you know when that happened, 616 00:31:53,988 --> 00:31:56,308 Speaker 1: I didn't expect it either. I ain't know to chest out. 617 00:31:56,868 --> 00:32:00,068 Speaker 1: I just somehow ended up with the ball when I 618 00:32:00,108 --> 00:32:02,228 Speaker 1: got up, you know, the russhid was touched out. I 619 00:32:02,308 --> 00:32:07,108 Speaker 1: s I just live with it. He was surprised, as 620 00:32:07,108 --> 00:32:10,068 Speaker 1: everybody else. Was an awesome player. Tell us about growing up, 621 00:32:10,068 --> 00:32:12,148 Speaker 1: some of the memories you had watching football, some of 622 00:32:12,148 --> 00:32:13,908 Speaker 1: the guys that you looked up to, some of the 623 00:32:13,948 --> 00:32:15,628 Speaker 1: guys you want to be like when you were growing up. 624 00:32:15,708 --> 00:32:18,548 Speaker 1: Who who are your guys growing up? I really watched, 625 00:32:18,588 --> 00:32:22,268 Speaker 1: you know, coming out of Louis Saints a lot, you know, 626 00:32:22,308 --> 00:32:26,908 Speaker 1: I was watching a lot of Marcus Kosten um yea 627 00:32:27,108 --> 00:32:31,948 Speaker 1: terms you know, Chris Avery, Reggie Bush. I was watching. 628 00:32:32,108 --> 00:32:36,588 Speaker 1: I was watching, you know, and that that gave me motivation. Um, 629 00:32:36,868 --> 00:32:38,908 Speaker 1: you know that I can you know do what date 630 00:32:38,988 --> 00:32:42,308 Speaker 1: doing so you know it made me work at them. Um, 631 00:32:43,028 --> 00:32:45,588 Speaker 1: whatever sport I was playing, you know, I played basketball 632 00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:50,468 Speaker 1: for football. So well, all that hard work is paying 633 00:32:50,508 --> 00:32:53,468 Speaker 1: off because the draft now sixteen days away. I want 634 00:32:53,508 --> 00:32:56,908 Speaker 1: to know how your visit was with the Packers. You 635 00:32:57,028 --> 00:32:59,868 Speaker 1: visited them last week, I believe, And I want to 636 00:32:59,908 --> 00:33:02,188 Speaker 1: know what your plans are for the draft. Who's gonna 637 00:33:02,228 --> 00:33:04,348 Speaker 1: be with you? Did you pick out an outfit? Yeah? 638 00:33:04,828 --> 00:33:07,828 Speaker 1: What's the food gonna be? Like? Like, tell me everything 639 00:33:07,828 --> 00:33:11,508 Speaker 1: that's going on? All right? So I met with Green 640 00:33:11,588 --> 00:33:15,148 Speaker 1: Bay last week as my first visit. Um, you know 641 00:33:15,188 --> 00:33:17,468 Speaker 1: it was it was cool to get down there and 642 00:33:18,108 --> 00:33:21,868 Speaker 1: no experience to town. Um, you know, see how I 643 00:33:22,148 --> 00:33:25,788 Speaker 1: was how the environment was wrong. Um, but you know 644 00:33:25,828 --> 00:33:27,828 Speaker 1: I like the I like the town. You know, it's 645 00:33:27,908 --> 00:33:31,028 Speaker 1: quiet as calm um. You know, it's not a lot 646 00:33:31,068 --> 00:33:33,908 Speaker 1: of distractions out there, so you know you can get 647 00:33:33,908 --> 00:33:38,388 Speaker 1: to it and stay stay head, level headed, you know 648 00:33:38,428 --> 00:33:42,908 Speaker 1: why you're out there, and you know the facility is great. Um. 649 00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:45,428 Speaker 1: You know I got the swure that on me. Some 650 00:33:45,508 --> 00:33:48,748 Speaker 1: of the coaches met all of the coaches me the gym, 651 00:33:48,868 --> 00:33:52,868 Speaker 1: so that wasn't great um as a draft ding, you know, 652 00:33:53,028 --> 00:33:56,788 Speaker 1: just getting with my family like my mom, my siblings, uh, 653 00:33:56,988 --> 00:33:59,988 Speaker 1: one older brother, two younger sisters, and you know, I 654 00:33:59,988 --> 00:34:03,028 Speaker 1: had a couple of other my family members like my 655 00:34:03,148 --> 00:34:08,868 Speaker 1: heart and a few others get together and just you 656 00:34:08,908 --> 00:34:15,308 Speaker 1: know's the draft sing I'm headed soon um and my 657 00:34:15,348 --> 00:34:19,228 Speaker 1: out of my outfit? Uh, I haven't decided on that yet. 658 00:34:20,028 --> 00:34:24,428 Speaker 1: You know, I still got a little time the suspense 659 00:34:24,708 --> 00:34:26,868 Speaker 1: now now we have to wait and see. You're gonna 660 00:34:26,868 --> 00:34:29,228 Speaker 1: have to post of it. I'm sure that you have 661 00:34:29,348 --> 00:34:31,388 Speaker 1: plenty of great ideas for that. That's always one of 662 00:34:31,468 --> 00:34:35,108 Speaker 1: my favorite little side storylines of the draft. But heay, 663 00:34:35,468 --> 00:34:37,868 Speaker 1: thanks so much for spending a little time with us here. 664 00:34:38,028 --> 00:34:41,668 Speaker 1: Have fun on draft day and enjoy the time that 665 00:34:41,748 --> 00:34:43,748 Speaker 1: you have leading up to the draft now and just 666 00:34:43,868 --> 00:34:46,628 Speaker 1: bask in the mystery of not knowing where you're gonna go. 667 00:34:46,788 --> 00:34:49,068 Speaker 1: But you will find out soon enough, my friend, Thank you, 668 00:34:49,228 --> 00:34:50,868 Speaker 1: thank you,