Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. The
Speaker 1: light bulbs may have finally gone off over the heads
Speaker 1: of the Biden campaign at two three pm Eastern daylight
Speaker 1: time yesterday. They had used the phrase before, and they
Speaker 1: had said the phrase before, but it was at that
Speaker 1: moment that they sent the phrase out into the world alone.
Speaker 1: A Twitter x post reading simply quote convicted felon and
Speaker 1: under it the close up, sweating modeled face golf picture
Speaker 1: of convicted felon Donald Trump, the one that looks like
Speaker 1: it was the before shot in a before and after
Speaker 1: about your grandpa's risk of having a stroke. Elections are
Speaker 1: not decided by social media posts, and they are not
Speaker 1: decided by nicknames, and they are not decided by bad photos.
Speaker 1: But you can probably decide one percentage point in an
Speaker 1: election with all of those, or two or five. We
Speaker 1: may hate this, but we live in in America where
Speaker 1: the name crooked Hillary stuck, and the phrase lock her
Speaker 1: up stuck, and the acronym maga maga one of the
Speaker 1: stupidest and most discordant acronyms of all time stuck, And
Speaker 1: here Joe Biden now has been gifted an answer to
Speaker 1: every insult and every meme and every catchphrase used by
Speaker 1: Trump and his cult. And it's not only a great answer,
Speaker 1: but it has the added benefit of being entirely true.
Speaker 1: And it has the even greater benefit of utterly deranging
Speaker 1: the entirety of the Trump horror cult. They have spent
Speaker 1: every day since the convictions screaming, shouting, whining, crying, don't
Speaker 1: say that. Don't call me that like you did the
Speaker 1: day that the kids gave you your first mean nickname in
Speaker 1: the third or fourth grade. The musk flunky David Sachs
Speaker 1: is calling it the convicted felon hoax. More of that,
Speaker 1: mister Sachs. The conspiracy driven right is claiming this is
Speaker 1: a George Sorrow's plot because his son tweeted about using
Speaker 1: the phrase. The idiot senator from Utah Mike Lee says
Speaker 1: the use of this phrase is quote a departure from
Speaker 1: the norm including norms involving the left's use of words
Speaker 1: like convict and I know Mike Lee rarely makes sense,
Speaker 1: but I honestly don't even know what he's talking about,
Speaker 1: and neither does he. Within a twenty one minute span,
Speaker 1: Mike Lee congratulated Democrats on guaranteeing Trump's election with the convictions,
Speaker 1: and then forgot he had tweeted that and insisted there
Speaker 1: could be no bigger, more impactful donation to the Biden campaign.
Speaker 1: They have been deranged. The gravity has been turned off
Speaker 1: in their world. Make sure it stays off. And again,
Speaker 1: as I pointed out in the special Bonus bulletin on Saturday,
Speaker 1: there has been and will continue to be an impact
Speaker 1: on the perception of Trump by Republican voters. And the
Speaker 1: earliest polling shows, No, it's not going to peel off
Speaker 1: twenty percent of them, and it doesn't have to peel
Speaker 1: off twenty percent of them. Five percent of them is
Speaker 1: worth roughly twelve electoral votes, and two percent in Michigan
Speaker 1: and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin would have meant President Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, the newest polling CBS you Gov, the
Speaker 1: number of Republicans saying he's now not considered fit to
Speaker 1: be president is up to ten percent. The number of
Speaker 1: Independents saying he's not fit to be president is now
Speaker 1: fifty percent. Echelon Insights run by a conservative Kristin Sultis
Speaker 1: Anderson went back to four hundred and seventy seven people
Speaker 1: it had previously pulled who had had it forty seven
Speaker 1: forty seven, and after the verdict they asked them again
Speaker 1: and now they are coming back forty nine forty seven
Speaker 1: for Biden. Put these on the pile next to the
Speaker 1: IPSOS Reuter's poll Ticke and last Thursday and Friday, a
Speaker 1: quarter of independents saying they are now less likely to
Speaker 1: vote for him, ten percent of Republicans saying that. And
Speaker 1: Morning consult took the other tack and asked should he
Speaker 1: end his campaign, and half of independence and fifteen percent
Speaker 1: of Republicans said yes, Trump should end his campaign now
Speaker 1: convicted felon Donald Trump and no, the numbers will not hold,
Speaker 1: they will soften. The access Hollywood tape experience is useful
Speaker 1: and instructive. It doesn't all have to last forever. It
Speaker 1: only has to impact this one percent or two percent
Speaker 1: less than that in the key swinging states. And there
Speaker 1: is nothing right now and maybe nothing for the rest
Speaker 1: of this campaign that Joe Biden could do to lower
Speaker 1: supermarket prices or cheapen gas, or make anything else positive
Speaker 1: happen that could have that sized impact and have it
Speaker 1: happen that quickly. So to the Biden campaign to every
Speaker 1: Democratic senator and representative and governor and every pro democracy
Speaker 1: commentator keep calling him convicted felon Donald Trump every time
Speaker 1: first reference, like he legally changed his name to that.
Speaker 1: And this goes for the President of the United States
Speaker 1: as well, because if they play this right, they can
Speaker 1: get a second, maybe bigger convicted felon Donald Trump. Bump
Speaker 1: out of this because the moment Joe Biden says that
Speaker 1: himself or puts it in a campaign commercial, I'm Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: and I approved this message because he's convicted fella Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: The moment that happens, the political media will lose their minds.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the idiots in all of the newspapers.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Maggie Haberman and Katie Turr trampling each
Speaker 1: other to get their forty four thousand stories written about it,
Speaker 1: and get the reaction from every Trumpist and every Republican
Speaker 1: and every Democrat and spread this phrase further and further
Speaker 1: until it is inescapable and it is inseparable from Trump's identity. Also,
Speaker 1: every Democratic group doing a poll, I want those questions asked,
Speaker 1: are you less likely to vote for Trump now that
Speaker 1: he is a convicted felon. Should he drop out now
Speaker 1: that he is a convicted felon? You feel about this phrase?
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a convicted felon. And while you're at it,
Speaker 1: make hats. I want hats. I want red hats. I
Speaker 1: want red hats with that same stupid fonts. Convicted fellon
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And for God's sake, get it on social
Speaker 1: media the two three pm tweet yesterday. I want a
Speaker 1: million of them. I want Facebook and Insta and TikTok
Speaker 1: users waiting knee deep in videos, all of which say
Speaker 1: convicted felon Donald Trump. And the reason a second bump
Speaker 1: from the New York trial is a necessity is it
Speaker 1: is now unavoidable. We will not be completing any other
Speaker 1: Trump trials before the election. Georgia just vanished the hearing
Speaker 1: into the latest attempt to disqualify Fannie Willis from helming.
Speaker 1: That election interference case will begin on October fourth. Even
Speaker 1: if the three Appeals court judges appointed by Republican Georgia
Speaker 1: governors violate their Siegfried oath and rule in her favor,
Speaker 1: they will not get that trial going quickly enough. And incredibly,
Speaker 1: this does not appear to be Eileen cannon style footdragging.
Speaker 1: Atlanta Media reports that the standard turnaround on a big
Speaker 1: procedural appeal like this in Georgia is now eight months.
Speaker 1: This is actually expedited. And this is all because Fannie
Speaker 1: willis needed to be untouchable in this case, and I
Speaker 1: wish life were not like this, but she wasn't untouchable.
Speaker 1: So the New York case resumes July eleventh. Asterisk could
Speaker 1: be delayed with the Republican Convention starting July fifteenth, and
Speaker 1: CBS News reporting GOP leaders will not dismiss the possibility
Speaker 1: that Trump will have to accept his nomination from behind
Speaker 1: bars in jail, slipping out a message, writing it on
Speaker 1: a bar of soap, baking it into a cake. Please
Speaker 1: do not use the image of a conjugal visit. Also,
Speaker 1: get all the Eugene v. Debs jazz out of your mind.
Speaker 1: This was not a murder trial. Even if Judge Mayr
Speaker 1: Shaan somehow does not grant the delay in sentencing, he
Speaker 1: will not end the hearing by having Trump dragged off
Speaker 1: by his feet directly to Riker's Island. There will be
Speaker 1: an appeal on the sentencing. Whatever it is or similar delay.
Speaker 1: Trump might or might not get prison time. Seems to
Speaker 1: think he could face a brief prison spell weekends. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's been mentioned a lot or house arrest, tells Fox,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it, which means he hears house arrest
Speaker 1: and he thinks more golf by the way back to
Speaker 1: convicted fellon Donald Trump, and that Biden Harris Headquarters tweet
Speaker 1: the golf photo with it essential. If you do it right,
Speaker 1: you can now tie a second association to it and
Speaker 1: get the bonfire glowing even higher into the night sky.
Speaker 1: Convicted felon means Donald Trump, and any photograph of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump at a golf course means convicted felon. Meanwhile, the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court is coming apart at the seams. The civilian
Speaker 1: victim in the Alito flag scandal now says that both
Speaker 1: in late twenty twenty early twenty twenty one, and then
Speaker 1: again as recently as two weeks ago, a black suv
Speaker 1: from the Alito's security detail parked not in front of
Speaker 1: Alito's house, but in front of her own mother's home
Speaker 1: in Alexandria, Virginia. Quote. I couldn't say who was in
Speaker 1: the car because of the tinted glass, Emily Baden told
Speaker 1: the newspaper The Guardian, and nobody ever said anything. I
Speaker 1: took it as a general threat. The message was we
Speaker 1: could do terrible things to you and nobody would be
Speaker 1: able to do anything about it. When it comes to
Speaker 1: justices at the Supreme Court, they make the laws, but
Speaker 1: the laws don't apply to them. Yeah, pretty much. Mss
Speaker 1: Baden says it happened a handful of times after the
Speaker 1: confrontations with Martha an Alito in late twenty twenty and
Speaker 1: early twenty two, and then again after The New York
Speaker 1: Times finally put the story out there last month, after
Speaker 1: the Washington Post sat on it for three years. Miss
Speaker 1: Baden notes ominously that none of the initial news stories
Speaker 1: included her name or her mother's Guess what the Elito
Speaker 1: security detail They already had all that information, and where
Speaker 1: Baden's mother lived after the infamous expletive Ladden conversation in
Speaker 1: early twenty twenty one, cooting Baden's husband right after a
Speaker 1: security vehicle moved in front of our house and stayed
Speaker 1: for the remainder of the night. This is not about
Speaker 1: scarcity of parking on that block. Baden's mother lives several
Speaker 1: houses down the street from where the Alito. Black cars
Speaker 1: normally linger in front of the Alito's house or directly
Speaker 1: across the street. If the implied threat was not enough,
Speaker 1: the cliche of the unmarked power vehicle parked in front
Speaker 1: of your house all night with tinted windows. Baden also
Speaker 1: says that Justice Lilleid's statement blaming everything on her and
Speaker 1: on his wife is full of lies. Quoting her, he's
Speaker 1: lying about many many things in that statement. She says
Speaker 1: she never initiated any confrontation with the Alitos, and moreover,
Speaker 1: Alitos claim that her law and signs directly insulted the
Speaker 1: Alitos not true. Mss Baden says she had hoped to
Speaker 1: stay anonymous in this as the Supreme Court disaster. This
Speaker 1: Supreme Court disaster plays out, but then the other's story
Speaker 1: broke about the appeal to Heaven flag at the Alito's
Speaker 1: summer home and quoting her again, that other flag sealed
Speaker 1: the deal for me. I thought, if I don't use
Speaker 1: my name, I will not be true to myself and
Speaker 1: my lifelong convictions. I believe in resistance to fascism. My
Speaker 1: grandpa fought in World War II. He was a person
Speaker 1: who quite literally fought against fascism, So what do we
Speaker 1: do about this, or importantly, what can we do about this?
Speaker 1: Apparently the Chief Justice of the United States wants us
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that he runs the country now and f
Speaker 1: everybody else. On Thursday, Chief Justice Roberts refused to meet
Speaker 1: informally with Senators Durbin and White House to discuss the
Speaker 1: crisis because quote, a meeting with leaders of only one
Speaker 1: party would be inadvisable. On Friday, Speaker of the House
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson said the Supreme Court must quote step in
Speaker 1: unquote to overturn convicted felon Donald Trump's thirty four guilty verdicts,
Speaker 1: and he said he was sure they would because quote,
Speaker 1: I know many of them personally, and I think they
Speaker 1: are deeply concerned that this is totally unprecedented. So I
Speaker 1: think they'll set this straight. In other words, the Chief
Speaker 1: Justice can't meet with Democrats because that would be a
Speaker 1: bad look. But an untold number of Associate Justices many
Speaker 1: they know the Leader of the House personally, and that
Speaker 1: leader a Republican and not a Republican and Democrat himself
Speaker 1: just a member of one party. That leader implies that
Speaker 1: he's spoken to them or communicated with them about a
Speaker 1: criminal case that it only took the jury twenty four
Speaker 1: hours to convict on, and they all agree that that
Speaker 1: criminal case needs to be overturned. This is such a
Speaker 1: bad look that even tiny little Johnson noticed. He went
Speaker 1: back on Fox to try to make it better and
Speaker 1: made it worse. Of course, I haven't had conversations with
Speaker 1: the justices, he explained, with the nonchalance of a doctor
Speaker 1: who does not actually have a license. I just know
Speaker 1: their character, their personality. That's worse. That's saying the Speaker
Speaker 1: of the House is confident that the Supreme Court will
Speaker 1: interfere with a criminal prosecution of a criminal on behalf
Speaker 1: of the criminal and against representative government, so confident that
Speaker 1: he didn't and doesn't even have to talk to them
Speaker 1: about it, like they communicate telepathically or something, or maybe
Speaker 1: he just talks to Thomas and Alito the way the
Speaker 1: rest of the world does with cash. There are still
Speaker 1: a few ways to turn this John Robert Sam Alito,
Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas, Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell, friends of Mike Johnson's
Speaker 1: Supreme Court into a complete glittering whorehouse. But there aren't
Speaker 1: many of them left, and none of them are really
Speaker 1: necessary for the project, whether Roberts knows it and he's
Speaker 1: faking it, or he's really so stupid that he does
Speaker 1: not see that his building is metaphorically on fire, and
Speaker 1: thus the democracy it is supposed to protect may follow.
Speaker 1: I don't care which anymore. The Supreme Court is right
Speaker 1: now so corrupt that it is beyond redemption. Now. The
Speaker 1: best and most correct solution to this ethical disaster is
Speaker 1: to get everybody and every important document and every artifact
Speaker 1: out of the Supreme Court and implode the building and
Speaker 1: start all over again. But that's not exactly doable just now.
Speaker 1: The next and most correct decision would be for the
Speaker 1: current presidential administration and its Department of Justice to stop
Speaker 1: participating in the Supreme Court and to explain to its
Speaker 1: justices and to the Chief Justice that it can keep
Speaker 1: staging all the hearings it wants and rule however it pleases,
Speaker 1: but as during the Civil War, the government will henceforth
Speaker 1: be ignoring it. Then, if the Supreme Court really wants
Speaker 1: to enforce its lamentably prejudiced and purchased decisions, maybe it
Speaker 1: should send Alito door to door to try to convince
Speaker 1: people that his fraudulence doesn't matter. Maybe he could bring
Speaker 1: some of his flags with him. It would be a
Speaker 1: stunning and possibly impactful site. Long term, the only solution
Speaker 1: is for a unified government, a democratic White House, democratic Senate,
Speaker 1: democratic House, to expand the Court by as many members
Speaker 1: is as necessary, say sixty or seventy. I am not
Speaker 1: optimistic that this opportunity is going to arise, largely because
Speaker 1: if Speaker Johnson isn't lying, and who can be sure
Speaker 1: about that he must have lied in one of those
Speaker 1: two comments to Fox, then the Supreme Court is even
Speaker 1: more completely owned by the Republicans and the Federalist Society
Speaker 1: and the fascists than we suspect it in our worst nightmares.
Speaker 1: And so if they can correctly throw the election to Trump,
Speaker 1: we should assume they are going to. Having said that
Speaker 1: this is still not beyond correction, Congressman Jamie Raskin wrote
Speaker 1: a op ed for The New York Times that unfortunately
Speaker 1: was published the day before the Trump verdicts, and so
Speaker 1: it vanished from any and all screens. But in it
Speaker 1: he slowly gets around to actual action, action that the
Speaker 1: Democrats and the Biden administration could take right now, And
Speaker 1: the good news is it's all doable, and the bad
Speaker 1: news is it requires Merrick Garland to do it. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to paraphrase this because I can read and
Speaker 1: even sometimes understand the law, but Congress and Raskin can
Speaker 1: practice and write it. Quoting him, Rascin argues, the US
Speaker 1: Department of Justice, including the US Attorney for the District
Speaker 1: of Columbia, an appointed US Special Council, and the Solicitor General,
Speaker 1: all of whom were involved in different ways in the
Speaker 1: criminal prosecutions underlying these cases and are opposing mister Trump's
Speaker 1: constitutional and statutory claims, can petition the other seven justices
Speaker 1: to require Justices Alito and Thomas to recuse themselves in
Speaker 1: the Trump presidential immunity case. He adds, not as a
Speaker 1: matter of grace, but as a matter of law, the
Speaker 1: Justice Department and Attorney General Merrick Garland can invoke two
Speaker 1: powerful textual authorities for this motion, the Constitution of the
Speaker 1: United States, specifically the due process clause and the federal
Speaker 1: statute mandating judicial disqualification for questionable impartiality twenty eight USC.
Speaker 1: Section four, five to five. The Constitution, Congressman Rascin writes,
Speaker 1: has come into play in several recent Supreme Court decisions
Speaker 1: striking down rulings by stubborn judges in lower courts whose
Speaker 1: political impartiality has been reasonably questioned, but who threw caution
Speaker 1: to the win to hear a case anyway. This statute
Speaker 1: requires potentially biased judges throughout the federal system to recuse
Speaker 1: themselves at the start of the process to avoid judicial
Speaker 1: unfairness and embarrassing controversies and reversals. He concludes, the constitutional
Speaker 1: and statutory standards apply to Supreme Court justices. The Constitution
Speaker 1: and the federal laws under it is the supreme law
Speaker 1: of the land, and the recusal statute explicitly treats Supreme
Speaker 1: Court justice is like other judges, quoting any justice, judge
Speaker 1: or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself
Speaker 1: in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.
Speaker 1: And the only justices in the federal judiciary are the
Speaker 1: ones on the Supreme Court, unquote Jamie Raskin. So there
Speaker 1: is law ready to be used break glass an event
Speaker 1: of emergency to stop this politically corrupt, biased, unprofessional, destructive
Speaker 1: cabal of justices. Mike Johnson knows personally to stop them
Speaker 1: from screwing the country into the ground any further or
Speaker 1: any faster. The irony, of course, is that the real
Speaker 1: impediment right now is the attorney general. It goes without
Speaker 1: saying that he should resign or that President Biden should
Speaker 1: fire him today, but that was also true last week,
Speaker 1: and last month, and last year and the day Merrick
Speaker 1: Garland took office. Because what we need out of an
Speaker 1: Attorney general is not a partisan Democrat, nor a Biden
Speaker 1: version of Bill Spanish inquisition bar. What we need is
Speaker 1: an advocate for, you know, continuing representative government in this country.
Speaker 1: And it's pretty clear by now that Merrick Garland has
Speaker 1: no idea that it is even warm in here, let
Speaker 1: alone any idea about this goddamned fire thing in the room.
Speaker 1: Also of interest here, the good news is at least
Speaker 1: nobody's threatening right wing fascist vigilante violence over the Trump verdicts.
Speaker 1: And when I say nobody, I mean only his lawyer,
Speaker 1: the one who wanted to seize all the ballot boxes
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, and only his former staffer now pretends
Speaker 1: to anchor newscasts, and only Trump himself. Nobody but them.
Speaker 1: That's next, This his countdown, This his countdown with Keith
Speaker 1: Oldwoman Stelle ahead of us on this initiative countdown. Thursday
Speaker 1: will be the eightieth anniversary of D Day, and that
Speaker 1: means all kinds of things for any American who hates
Speaker 1: fascists and Nazis, so like fifty seven percent of us now,
Speaker 1: But for some of us, this eightieth anniversary invokes memory
Speaker 1: of the sixtieth anniversary, for which the then new president
Speaker 1: of MSNBC pulled out all the stops and decided to
Speaker 1: go wall to wall with live reports from Normandy and
Speaker 1: Me and lesterr Holt anchoring all day and and and
Speaker 1: then breaking news happened, big breaking news which broke up
Speaker 1: the president's plans and broke his heart things I promised
Speaker 1: not to tell next but first. As ever, there are
Speaker 1: still more new idiots talk about the daily roundup of
Speaker 1: the misgrants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute
Speaker 1: two days Where's persons in the world. The runner up
Speaker 1: worse convicted Felon Denesh Desuza probably missed this since they
Speaker 1: announced it late on a Friday night, and hopes that
Speaker 1: you would miss it. But the executive producer and publisher
Speaker 1: of Desuza's movie length lie called Two Thousand Mules, repudiated
Speaker 1: the film and him and the True the Vote organization,
Speaker 1: and the publisher and producer apologized to one of Desuza's
Speaker 1: victims and pulled the film out of circulation. Desusa accused
Speaker 1: a Georgia man named Mark Andrews a ballot stuffing. Desusa
Speaker 1: actually did the voice over saying why you know our
Speaker 1: things and crime Na Franklin bounce They weren't. He didn't,
Speaker 1: but he did sue. Suddenly, Salem Media and it's publishing
Speaker 1: film affirm Rather Regnery said sorry, sorry, it was all
Speaker 1: that guy's fault. Quote. It was never our intent that
Speaker 1: the publication of the Two Thousand Mules film and book
Speaker 1: would harm mister Andrews. We apologize. We have removed the
Speaker 1: film from mister Salem's platforms, and there will be no
Speaker 1: future distribution of the film or the book by Salem.
Speaker 1: And then here's the kill sentence. In publishing the film
Speaker 1: and the book, we relied on representations made to us
Speaker 1: by Denesh Desuza and True the Vote Inc. Unquote. Bye, Felicia,
Speaker 1: you relied on Denesh Desuza. Hell, there's your problem right there.
Speaker 1: By the way mister Andrews, he has not dropped his lawsuit.
Speaker 1: The runner up, Senator Josh the running Man Hawley, who
Speaker 1: went on Denesh Desuz's old girlfriend's show and told Laura
Speaker 1: Ingram that he predicts, quote, We're going to find out
Speaker 1: soon that US soldiers are in Ukraine, that US soldiers
Speaker 1: are advising like in Vietnam. Well, there's only two choices here.
Speaker 1: Hally is either lying, accusing the Biden administration of conducting
Speaker 1: a clandestine war in Ukraine, or he's just revealed military secrets.
Speaker 1: Can't do anything about the lying part. But if it's
Speaker 1: the latter, prosecute him. When are we going to stop
Speaker 1: lending Schmucks like Josh Hawley drive steam rollers through this
Speaker 1: country and it's laws, prosecute him. But our winner, Carl
Speaker 1: Higbee Newsmax, Carl is big mad after convicted fellaon Donald
Speaker 1: Trump was convicted, Big mad, Carl has decided he's going
Speaker 1: to start shooting people, or somebody's going to start shooting people,
Speaker 1: or Trump's going to start shooting people or Carl was
Speaker 1: interrack and once again, I don't think we know one
Speaker 1: percent of all that we are going to know someday
Speaker 1: about PTSD.
Speaker 2: Oh, Carl, you tyrants are about to awaken a machinery
Speaker 2: you don't want. You are pushing people to the edge.
Speaker 2: The same party that is offended by the wrong pronouns
Speaker 2: as pushing the party that owns ninety percent of the
Speaker 2: guns of which the majority defends our nation, who mine
Speaker 2: our minerals, who build our skyscrapers and drive our trucks.
Speaker 2: You weak people have no idea. You people in your
Speaker 2: cities with your white shoe consultants' country clubs, who thought
Speaker 2: prosecuting Trump was a good idea, You have never met America.
Speaker 1: Carl Higbee works in New York, lived somewhere around here.
Speaker 1: He sued for permission to open carry here, and he's nuts, obviously.
Speaker 1: But let's start with this widespread right wing idea that
Speaker 1: they're going to shoot all the rest of us and
Speaker 1: that'll show us two points their boy wins the election.
Speaker 1: It's academic. The government will do that for them. You
Speaker 1: boys can just keep your gun in your house and
Speaker 1: just stay home and rub it all day. But if not,
Speaker 1: and I mean Trump said something like this over the
Speaker 1: weekend too, again another stochastic terrorist outreach about the American
Speaker 1: people's breaking point. And just yesterday John Eastman broke into
Speaker 1: a thing about how MAGA will take it into their
Speaker 1: own hands. I mean, what do you think your guns
Speaker 1: are going to do? Pushing the party that owns ninety
Speaker 1: percent of the guns, of which the majority defends our nation? Boyo,
Speaker 1: who owns all the tanks, who owns all the planes,
Speaker 1: who owns all the military bases? Ever understand this? You're
Speaker 1: gonna start shooting. Do you think the response is gonna
Speaker 1: be like January sixth, where there's no response? Oh? Nos,
Speaker 1: they're shooting. Don't use the tanks or the planes, complain
Speaker 1: about their adverbs. Thank god. These fascists are this effing stupid.
Speaker 1: They start shooting. What's the what's what going? We quote
Speaker 1: John Eastman, what's that's why we have an insurrection Act.
Speaker 1: I'll also point out that this Carl Higbee nut job
Speaker 1: was in the Trump administration. He was chief of External
Speaker 1: affairs of the Federal Government Volunteer Service Organization CNCs, and
Speaker 1: then CNN found the archive of his twenty thirteen internet
Speaker 1: radio show in which Karl made insulting and derogatory comments
Speaker 1: about Blacks, Muslims, women, LGBTQ plus people, and immigrants. He
Speaker 1: suggested welfare recipients should permanently lose the right to vote.
Speaker 1: He suggested civilian should be permitted to go to the
Speaker 1: border and shoot undocumented immigrants, and he suggested that three
Speaker 1: quarters of service members with PTSD were just faking it.
Speaker 1: Did you say that? Carl? What a guy? Carl Higbee?
Speaker 1: Two days worst person guns versus tanks in the world
Speaker 1: to my favorite topic, me and things I promised not
Speaker 1: to tell, and D Day plus sixty. It was June sixth,
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, and MSNBC's new president Rick Kaplan
Speaker 1: needed to make a mark on the network for his
Speaker 1: new bosses, and he decided this was gonna be it
Speaker 1: on June six, two thousand and four, maybe the last
Speaker 1: even numbered anniversary of D Day, where we'd have a
Speaker 1: lot of people left who were there. We'd turned the
Speaker 1: network all D Day. June six, two thousand and four
Speaker 1: basically was going to be June sixth, nineteen forty four,
Speaker 1: relived Tom Brokaw live on the visius of Normandy and
Speaker 1: Somebody There and Somebody Here and his main two MSNBC
Speaker 1: news anchors, me and Lester Holt, anchoring two hour blocks
Speaker 1: devoted to the anniversary and then switching off and he
Speaker 1: came back, and I would go away, and then I'd
Speaker 1: come back and he would go just wall to wall.
Speaker 1: I'm Rick Kaplan, and I used to produce for Walter
Speaker 1: Cronkite to not only lock in his new gig at MSNBC,
Speaker 1: but set himself up for his next goal executive in
Speaker 1: charge of the Today Show or NBC Nightly News, or
Speaker 1: something bigger than that little crapshack we ran at MSNBC.
Speaker 1: For my part, I was dispatched first to interview one
Speaker 1: of the prizingly large number of soldiers and sailors and
Speaker 1: airmen who survived D Day and went on to fame.
Speaker 1: There were actors Charles Derning and James Dewhan Scotty on
Speaker 1: Star Trek, and the author J. D. Salinger and Sieman's
Speaker 1: second class, Yogi Bearra. I met Yogi at his museum
Speaker 1: in New Jersey, and I swear to God he and
Speaker 1: his son demanded a friendly bribe to do the interview.
Speaker 1: And what they wanted was my copy of the nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty three tops Yogi Bearra baseball card. Seriously, that's the
Speaker 1: toughest one to find. Yogi said, we never have enough
Speaker 1: of them here. I always enjoyed Yogi. But he had
Speaker 1: more to say about his nineteen sixty three baseball card
Speaker 1: and its relative scarcity than he did about the D
Speaker 1: Day invasion and his chief on his rocket launcher boat
Speaker 1: telling him to keep his head down or he might
Speaker 1: get to watch it fly off his neck. Anyway, the
Speaker 1: Bearra interview was fine, and it was done, and we
Speaker 1: edited like fifteen very very short answer into about two
Speaker 1: minutes of not bad narrative. And I had written a
Speaker 1: couple of other D Day features, and I'd written some
Speaker 1: other scripts on Friday, and by Sunday we were all
Speaker 1: crammed into the main MSNBC conference room in Secaucus, New Jersey,
Speaker 1: everybody working a sixth day. And you would have thought
Speaker 1: this guy, Rick Kaplan, president of the network, was leading
Speaker 1: the actual invasion of Normandy, not merely a cable TV
Speaker 1: network coverage of the sixtieth anniversary. Thereof, Kaplin was waxing
Speaker 1: poetic about how important this was for us, and how
Speaker 1: it would put us on the map against CNN and Fox,
Speaker 1: and how he had covered all the contingencies. And that's
Speaker 1: when people's phones started vibrating and ringing. Kaplan was still
Speaker 1: enjoying the sound of his own voice as these phones
Speaker 1: gradually drowned him out. When one of the producers finished
Speaker 1: whispering into his BlackBerry and then said, excuse me, Rick,
Speaker 1: we have a problem. Ronald Reagan has just died. Without
Speaker 1: a word, twenty people at that conference table rose and
Speaker 1: then froze, realizing that before they abandoned this meeting to
Speaker 1: go get on the air as quickly as possible, and
Speaker 1: then to lay out what would be rolling coverage till
Speaker 1: at least midnight of Reagan's death and life and reaction
Speaker 1: to it till further notice. We couldn't just start. We
Speaker 1: basically had to wait for the president of the network,
Speaker 1: who was sitting there, Rick Camplan, to say, Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: figure out the D Day stuff later. It's Reagan day.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Except he didn't say that, looking crestfallen, looking
Speaker 1: like a kid who's had his toys stolen and then broken.
Speaker 1: As he watched Rick Kaplan swept the room with his gaze,
Speaker 1: he stopped on me, Thanks, couldn't we just couldn't we
Speaker 1: just do half an hour of Reagan and then half
Speaker 1: an hour of my D Day and then half an
Speaker 1: hour and he trailed off, and I said, Rick, it's
Speaker 1: a two term president. I mean, I think he was
Speaker 1: full of crap, but apparently a lot of American thinks
Speaker 1: he's some sort of icon. And by the way, it
Speaker 1: just it just happened like eleven minutes ago. It didn't
Speaker 1: happen sixty years ago. I'm sorry. He was almost literally pouting,
Speaker 1: But what about all my D Day coverage? President of
Speaker 1: the network? And I said, well, we can run those
Speaker 1: pieces throughout the day tomorrow. They won't just disappear. We
Speaker 1: don't have to go degous the tapes. Okay. We realized
Speaker 1: that the president of the news network was not going
Speaker 1: to be any use helping us cover the first big
Speaker 1: breaking news story of his presidency, because it couldn't bear
Speaker 1: to change his plans to accommodate breaking presidential news. This
Speaker 1: was at the end of month three of the Rick
Speaker 1: Kaplan MSNBC presidency. He was already on the ropes with us.
Speaker 1: He would later be the who chased me around the
Speaker 1: studios because he was squeamish and I'd mentioned blood on
Speaker 1: the air and he thought I was trying to sabotage
Speaker 1: his great show with Rita Cosby. He would soon be
Speaker 1: the network president who did not know what was live
Speaker 1: on TV and what was on delay. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: that story in a minute too. However, the Rick Kaplan
Speaker 1: story starts in the men's room at MSNBC. It is
Speaker 1: February seventeenth, two thousand and four, at one of those
Speaker 1: moronic corporate speak town halls. The bosses have just introduced
Speaker 1: Rick Kaplan as the new president of the network. Kaplan
Speaker 1: speaks for an hour without interruption. He does not mention
Speaker 1: that he was the president of CNN when it's nineteen
Speaker 1: year streak at number one in the cable news ratings
Speaker 1: came to an abrupt end. He does, however, mention that
Speaker 1: he is six feet seven inches tall, but he does
Speaker 1: not seem to be six feet seven inches tall. As
Speaker 1: this nonsense ends, I rush into the men's room and find,
Speaker 1: to my amusement, Joe Scarborough, Chris Matthews, Jesse Ventura, Lester Holt,
Speaker 1: and one unoccupied y'urin all. As I moved to occupy it,
Speaker 1: it dawns on me that Ventura, the former professional wrestler,
Speaker 1: is the shortest man in the bathroom at six feet two.
Speaker 1: All five of us are silent. Finally, Matthews says it
Speaker 1: Helen hell, can he say he's six foot seven? He's
Speaker 1: barely taller than I am? And I'm six four, oldman?
Speaker 1: Are you slightly taller than me? You're slightly shorter than me?
Speaker 1: How is he six seven? Everybody keeps looking forward, of course,
Speaker 1: into the wall in front of us. I'm six three
Speaker 1: and a half. Lester, he's your height. I saw you
Speaker 1: standing with him, you tour even. What are you six ' five?
Speaker 1: Lester says, uh huh and flushes. Scarborough chimes in, I'm
Speaker 1: just over sixty four. We're almost eyed aye, he's not
Speaker 1: six seven. Finally, Ventura speaks, I've been thrown around a
Speaker 1: ring by guys or six to seven. This guy's not
Speaker 1: six seven. From the sink, wester Holt now says, have
Speaker 1: any of you known anybody our height who lies and
Speaker 1: says they're taller? Matthews again, who lies about their height?
Speaker 1: Eye flush? This guy does, gentlemen, we are in trouble
Speaker 1: here for the presidency of Rick Kaplan at MSNBC. That
Speaker 1: might have been sorry, I can't resist it the high
Speaker 1: water mark. Later, on Friday March fifth, two thousand and four, Kaplan,
Speaker 1: who had been there, three weeks assembled the hosts and
Speaker 1: producers of the primetime shows on the network that would
Speaker 1: have been me, Scarborough, Dan Abrams, our staffs, the New
Speaker 1: Jersey staff of Chris Matthews Show, and he told us
Speaker 1: that the next day was going to be Monday. Somebody
Speaker 1: from Scarborough's staff helpfully corrected him, mister Kaplan, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: tomorrow is Saturday. Kaplin sternly explained he was now president
Speaker 1: of this network and we all sucked, and if he
Speaker 1: said today was Friday and tomorrow is Monday, then today
Speaker 1: was Friday and tomorrow was Monday. He wanted to see
Speaker 1: us react to sudden changes in our plans. We were
Speaker 1: being told we were being called into work a sixth
Speaker 1: day tomorrow for no reason. Kaplin then started yelling at us,
Speaker 1: You guys don't get it. You're all working tomorrow. Anybody
Speaker 1: who doesn't come in is fired. We are going to
Speaker 1: do the whole pro primetime lineup. Your breaking news is
Speaker 1: today's breaking news, the guilty verdict in the Martha Stewart case.
Speaker 1: Start booking your guests because tomorrow is Monday, not Saturday.
Speaker 1: Just on my staff, Saturday was supposed to be my
Speaker 1: reporter's engagement party, a surprise party thrown by one of
Speaker 1: my producers for his wife's birthday, and the day another
Speaker 1: producer was closing on buying a house. I have a
Speaker 1: vague memory of what we put on the air. I
Speaker 1: have a stronger memory of the new president of MSNBC
Speaker 1: losing the staffs of all four of his primetime shows
Speaker 1: on his fifth day on the job and never ever
Speaker 1: getting them back. Kaplan then went to a corkboard on
Speaker 1: our office wall on which our show Rundown was displayed.
Speaker 1: He ordered producers to move segments around, and he berated
Speaker 1: me for not having anticipated his whims and at one
Speaker 1: point he screamed, stop, what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 1: And he got up and he grabbed the push pin,
Speaker 1: which held up an index card bearing the name of
Speaker 1: a guest. You don't use green pins with yellow index cards.
Speaker 1: You use yellow pins with yellow index cards. What kind
Speaker 1: of a newsman are You can't imagine how this guy
Speaker 1: choked away CNN's monopoly on cable news ratings. I was
Speaker 1: reminded recently that later on December eighth, two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: seventeen years ago tomorrow, he did one of the most
Speaker 1: unintentionally funniest things I have ever witnessed. A plane slid
Speaker 1: off the runway at Midway Airport in Chicago. Nothing funny
Speaker 1: about that, obviously, But Kaplan called into our control room
Speaker 1: demanding we changed something about our live coverage that he
Speaker 1: didn't like. We promptly made the change. He was right.
Speaker 1: Five minutes later he called in and started swearing at
Speaker 1: one of our producers. I told you to change that
Speaker 1: if you you're fired, And the producer said, we changed
Speaker 1: it five minutes ago. When you called in, silence, Rick,
Speaker 1: Are you watching the network on some sort of delay?
Speaker 1: Are you watching on TVO or something? Silence again. Finally
Speaker 1: he said, okay, good work, see you tomorrow and hung up.
Speaker 1: He didn't know he was watching it on a delay.
Speaker 1: Kaplan was also one of these forget the mean thing
Speaker 1: I said yesterday. God knows I have kind of guys.
Speaker 1: By Monday, he had heard people laughing at some of
Speaker 1: my on air jokes and his front runner instincts took over.
Speaker 1: He called me and the producer in for a meeting.
Speaker 1: I have only one criticism of your show. Which of
Speaker 1: these stories whill you'll be talking about? Thing? Is genius?
Speaker 1: The fifth story? The fourth story then the third story.
Speaker 1: It's original and fresh. I hesitated. I almost said to him, yeah,
Speaker 1: this whole counting thing we just invented that. The music
Speaker 1: is genius, the graphics are genius. You're a genius, but
Speaker 1: you're missing something obvious, something genius. After each one of
Speaker 1: these stories, after you thank your guests, you should do
Speaker 1: a list of the things you didn't tell us about
Speaker 1: those stories. So like, after the fifth story, you should say,
Speaker 1: now here are the other five things we didn't tell
Speaker 1: you about the fifth story, get it a full screen
Speaker 1: graphic and you telling people. And then fourth things for
Speaker 1: the fourth story, and three for the third. I thought
Speaker 1: for a moment, and I said, okay, but what happens
Speaker 1: if we make those graphics up and then a minute beforehand,
Speaker 1: the guest brings up one of those things we claim
Speaker 1: we didn't tell you. When he just told you, we
Speaker 1: had lost Rick Caplan's attention by that point. Hmmm, he grunted.
Speaker 1: For a second. I thought his eyes were pointing outwards
Speaker 1: in different directions, but he snapped himself back into this reality.
Speaker 1: Huh could happen? You'll figure it out anyway, too late
Speaker 1: to do it today. Figure it out and do it tomorrow,
Speaker 1: thanks the producer, and I had to then explain to
Speaker 1: the staff of Countdown that from now on, for every
Speaker 1: story they had to deliberately leave out one or two
Speaker 1: or three or four or five facts or details, something
Speaker 1: interesting enough to be made into a full screen graphic,
Speaker 1: but not interesting enough to be included in their scripts
Speaker 1: or the interviews with the guests. Suddenly I thought a
Speaker 1: lot of people's eyes were pointing outwards in different directions.
Speaker 1: The line producer, Greg Kordick, who was in charge not
Speaker 1: of content but of timing things and making sure things
Speaker 1: like graphics got made, said, matter of factly, this will
Speaker 1: add five hours to everybody's workday. And so it did.
Speaker 1: After the next day's show when we listed the top
Speaker 1: five things we can tell you about today's fifth story
Speaker 1: and the top four things we didn't tell you about
Speaker 1: today's fourth story, et cetera, and we had to shorten
Speaker 1: all the scripts and shorten each interview just to make
Speaker 1: room for all of this extraneous crap. Greg, the producer, said,
Speaker 1: people here will be quitting by Thursday and dying by Monday,
Speaker 1: and I said, you're right. Plus it ruins the interviews
Speaker 1: and it weakens the show. Don't do it tomorrow with
Speaker 1: Kaplan yells I'll take the eight. So now it's Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and not only don't I hear anything from Kaplan about
Speaker 1: the Tuesday show and his the top five things we
Speaker 1: didn't tell you about today's fifth story Jazz, but after
Speaker 1: the Wednesday show when we don't do it, I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there waiting for an enraged phone call because we didn't
Speaker 1: Thursday morning at home, I'm waiting for an enraged email.
Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon, I'm waiting for an enraged Kaplin in person. Nothing.
Speaker 1: He never said a word. The week passes nothing, a month,
Speaker 1: two months, it's summer, nothing. The rest of two thousand
Speaker 1: and four flies by. Nothing. We did once, we never
Speaker 1: did it again, and then he never said anything. It
Speaker 1: is now January two thousand and five, and he still
Speaker 1: hasn't said anything. And I'm told by Phil Griffin, my
Speaker 1: first producer in television sports and sixteen years later of
Speaker 1: my first producer in television news, who has since become
Speaker 1: the vice president of MSNBC, that Kaplan wants to see
Speaker 1: us in his office. It's not a big deal, Phil says,
Speaker 1: he's in a good mood. He just wants to make
Speaker 1: us feel like we have input into his decisions. This
Speaker 1: is a what do you think meeting? Now I have
Speaker 1: to ask you to carefully picture the layout of Rick
Speaker 1: Kaplan's office at MSNBC in the year two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: Envision a long, narrow room. Baseball's MLB network now operates there,
Speaker 1: and they have cleverly turned Kaplan's office into a wardrobe room,
Speaker 1: perfect since it was really just a long closet. Anyways,
Speaker 1: Rick Kaplan, who was six foot five but lied and
Speaker 1: said he was six foot seven, sat at the very
Speaker 1: back of this room. I'm in the front door. You
Speaker 1: turn to your right, and maybe thirty thirty five forty
Speaker 1: feet away from you, in the farthest corner, facing his
Speaker 1: computer on his desk, flush against the left hand wall,
Speaker 1: is the president of MSNBC. A few feet into the
Speaker 1: room is where you sit. Halfway between these two points.
Speaker 1: Against the right hand wall is where another executive can sit,
Speaker 1: so Phil Griffin sits there. I am just inside the door.
Speaker 1: He is fifteen feet ahead of me to the right.
Speaker 1: Rick Kaplan is thirty feet or forty feet ahead of
Speaker 1: me to the left. Picture this carefully. The way these
Speaker 1: chairs and desks are arranged if you're me and Phil
Speaker 1: Griffin is looking at you, Rick Kaplan can only see
Speaker 1: the back of Phil Griffin's head and not his face.
Speaker 1: If they are both looking at you, they cannot see
Speaker 1: each other. Weird, seemingly trivial turned out to be essential.
Speaker 1: We begin this meaningless meeting and talk about guests and graphics, fonts,
Speaker 1: and Kaplan talks about how much the ratings have gone
Speaker 1: up in his year as president. And finally, I say,
Speaker 1: I do have one suggestion. I think the show is
Speaker 1: going to be very successful, and I think if we
Speaker 1: want to make any changes, we should make them now
Speaker 1: before it becomes successful. And I say, I have never
Speaker 1: heard anybody say they like the fifth story, fourth story,
Speaker 1: third story stuff. If you want to continue the name
Speaker 1: countdown because people know it by now, that's great, I guess.
Speaker 1: But the five four three two one numbering is a
Speaker 1: conceit and it's a lot of extra work for everybody,
Speaker 1: and I think we should kill it now. Kaplan is aghast.
Speaker 1: He is pale, He is not angry, he is just stunned.
Speaker 1: But you can't do that. Five four three two one
Speaker 1: is part of the reasons the ratings went up. The
Speaker 1: ratings went up when I came up with the idea
Speaker 1: of the top five things we didn't tell you about
Speaker 1: today's top five story, worries in the top four things
Speaker 1: we didn't tell you about today's number four story, etc.
Speaker 1: We can't stop that. That's why people watch My idea
Speaker 1: took me a split second to even remember what the
Speaker 1: hell it was he was talking about. I had forgotten
Speaker 1: the whole five things we didn't tell you Albatross weeks
Speaker 1: after the one show we did it, and then the
Speaker 1: staff rebelled and I said, screw it, and I'll take
Speaker 1: the heat. And I was about to say this out
Speaker 1: loud when I suddenly realized that Phil Griffin, fifteen feet
Speaker 1: away on the right, his face turned to me and
Speaker 1: thus invisible to Kaplan thirty feet away on the left,
Speaker 1: was making his eyes as wide as possible, and Phil
Speaker 1: was looking right at me and silently mouthing the word no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: all the while keeping his head completely still, so Kaplin
Speaker 1: didn't know he was talking to me. Silently. I got
Speaker 1: Phil's message, I dropped the subject. I didn't say it.
Speaker 1: The meeting ended maybe too minutes later, with Kaplan saying
Speaker 1: keep up the good work and ushering us out by saying,
Speaker 1: and keep up with the top five things we didn't
Speaker 1: tell you about today's five fifth story. Oh that's what's
Speaker 1: making it really cook. When we were out of earshot
Speaker 1: of Rick Kaplan, Griffin thanked me for being able to
Speaker 1: read his panicked lips. I used an oath to liven
Speaker 1: up my question. What the blank was that all about?
Speaker 1: And Griffin said, now you know what every day of
Speaker 1: my life has become. It's not worth it to try
Speaker 1: to correct him. He believes what he believes, and he
Speaker 1: won't be checked or contradicted. And I said, we only
Speaker 1: did the five things. We didn't tell you a thing once,
Speaker 1: only once. It's like a year later. How in the
Speaker 1: hell could he possibly think we're still doing it? Griffin laughed,
Speaker 1: like a soldier on a World War One battlefield who
Speaker 1: has just run out of bullets. See that's the problem, buddy.
Speaker 1: He only watches MSNBC here in the office. The place
Speaker 1: he's renting it doesn't have cable. President of MSNBC doesn't
Speaker 1: have cable at home. On June sixth, two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: they fired Rick Caplan as the president of MSNBC. They
Speaker 1: let him resign. They also let him keep his secret,
Speaker 1: the darkest of secrets, himn for MSNBC that for his
Speaker 1: two years on the throne, the president of an all
Speaker 1: news cable channel did not have cable. The sad thing
Speaker 1: is if Rick Caplan could guarantee CNN the ratings that
Speaker 1: we had at MSNBC on the day he was fired
Speaker 1: at MSNBC, CNN would make him president again before sunrise,
Speaker 1: President for life. Triple digits. I've done all the damage
Speaker 1: I could do here. Thank you for listening. Countdown. Musical
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Speaker 1: performed most of our music. Mister Ray was on the guitars,
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Speaker 1: satirical and pithy musical comments are by Nancy Faust. The
Speaker 1: best baseball stadium organist ever. Our announcer today is my
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Speaker 1: Trump's first attempted coup against the democratically elected government of
Speaker 1: the United States. Use the July eleventh sentencing hearing, use
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