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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I also live on a rain drenched Thursday edition of

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Speaker 2: the program Flood Warnings, Rain, Rain, go Away, It won't ever.

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Speaker 2: How you living, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I'm just happy to be by you and happy to

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Speaker 3: be here for what people are calling the rise of

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Speaker 3: Young Gabriel, Young Gabriel, Young Gabriel, star Maker. You said,

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Speaker 3: a couple of star making performances in the last twenty

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Speaker 3: four hours.

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Speaker 4: We have three pillars of this show for nearly a

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Speaker 4: decade with you and I and of course the great Gibbet.

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Speaker 4: And then we have our ancillary characters, and this is

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Speaker 4: my favorite group of them that we've had as it

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Speaker 4: currently is Doctor j and Young Gabriel.

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Speaker 2: But what I did, I think it.

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Speaker 4: I also think that what has happened in the last

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Speaker 4: twenty four hours, if they are stocks, over the last

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Speaker 4: twenty four hours, they've become and I think doctor J

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Speaker 4: had a really rough end of his day yesterday, really

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Speaker 4: rough end of his day. And young Gabriel rocket rocket ship.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, rocket ship, rocket ship.

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Speaker 3: And so doctor J right now is it's is being

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Speaker 3: pulled down by the market forces. Where is there are

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Speaker 3: a few greens on your screen? Young Gabriel is one

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Speaker 3: of the few greens on may like today.

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Speaker 2: He's ready to go.

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Speaker 3: He's a green.

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Speaker 2: He's a green. He's a green. He's ready to go, which.

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Speaker 3: Is said with love. Normally it's said with disdain when

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Speaker 3: Gibbe ruins our group chats because nobody can actually send

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Speaker 3: anything that they want to send anybody else because he's

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Speaker 3: a green.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe they still exist.

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Speaker 5: I can't.

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Speaker 2: There are three people thriving.

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Speaker 3: I think you just do you do it out of Spike.

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Speaker 2: There's no question he does.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 4: There are three people who I have interaction with pretty

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Speaker 4: regularly who are greens, and they're all lovely.

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Speaker 2: You're one of the three.

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Speaker 4: And and yet every time I see them as a green,

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Speaker 4: I just go, why what.

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Speaker 3: Are you doing?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Hes a contrarian, gibbet Is, he's a contrarian.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go. Date, we're halfway home.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to the halfway point of the one hundred and

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Speaker 6: twenty day war.

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Speaker 4: There it is one hundred and twenty days were to

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Speaker 4: day's sixty. God, these days stacked, don't they?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, don't look like.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the draft will be here, free agency, there's visits.

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Speaker 6: Actually we can talk about him today, Oh we can

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Speaker 6: NFL networks reporting it.

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Speaker 4: Well, here you go per Tom Pelissaro and NFL Network,

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Speaker 4: Carnel Tate and Ty Simpson in the building today.

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Speaker 2: That right, Simpson.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he has that right.

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Speaker 4: He reported it, and we can't tell the truth. We

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Speaker 4: have to just go and say, here's what's reported. Is

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Speaker 4: that the that's our that's our marching orders, right.

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Speaker 3: That that is like from what I understand, he's fifty right,

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Speaker 3: fifty of the time, it works every time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so fifty percent right, as you understand. But we

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Speaker 4: can't say which fifty percent is right.

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Speaker 3: That's the beauty of what I said, That's the beauty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, was the was the craziest case of that.

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Speaker 2: The well, the mug, we have a mug commemorating that's right.

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Speaker 2: That was probably the.

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Speaker 4: Craziest exact Yeah, that was yeah, yeah, That's why sometimes

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Speaker 4: sometimes you really have to pay attention to the scores.

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Speaker 3: You do.

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Speaker 2: This is a well, I mean that would be a

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Speaker 2: score situation. But that's the thing. You have to pay

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Speaker 4: So, so the top thirties are happening. So half of

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Speaker 4: what mister pellisarrow is reporting we believe to be correct.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Okay, all right, A lot of I could

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Speaker 3: have got bad information. It could have been not ing it.

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Speaker 3: But I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that out of you.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, is this like the Florio chefter beef you

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Speaker 2: versus gibbe on info?

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Speaker 3: I mean they might he might be right.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I see that.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Oh yeah, shifty body. Do you have

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Speaker 3: eyes on that, young Gabril.

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Speaker 2: Well so maybe they're well, we don't want to get say,

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Speaker 2: we can't. We can't say what we know.

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Speaker 5: Your not fifty per.

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Speaker 2: So, well, you can't have a half of a human here.

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Speaker 3: You'd have a half of a half.

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Speaker 2: Colonels upper half is here walking around.

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Speaker 3: I was told by somebody in personnel that there's somebody

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Speaker 3: else here who will likely will be here on another

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Speaker 3: day then, So I'm not worried about it. Okay, Tom

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Speaker 3: Pelsera plugged in, he's dialed in, he's the he's on

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Speaker 3: the insiders, I mean, but what do you want is

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: So there you go, lot of a lot of consternation

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Speaker 4: down City one south about about Carnal Tait. And that's

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Speaker 4: what Actually, if you didn't pay attention to this, and

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Speaker 4: God bless you for not, the Twitter beef between Florio

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Speaker 4: and Chefty, right, was all predicated on Carneal Tate's forty

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Speaker 4: times forty time yep, which was four or five to two,

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Speaker 4: and then various league sources tabbed him at at four

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Speaker 4: four seven.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: You know what's interesting in regard to the Combine and

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Speaker 4: Mayock's comments on Downs that he wouldn't take him in

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Speaker 4: the top ten in any draft.

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Speaker 3: So because of his position, or he just doesn't like.

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Speaker 2: Him, it doesn't like him, doesn't like him, or anybody not.

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah was the only guy at the Combine that was

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Speaker 4: Him, Yeah, and he was worried about size, right, and

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Speaker 4: than people thought he would be, So maybe that cooled

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Speaker 4: some of it a little bit. But irregardless, the one

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Speaker 4: consensus around Downs that this is a very very safe

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Speaker 4: a long time. He's always in the right place, one

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Speaker 2: But the true.

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Speaker 4: Consensus from the Ohio state perspective, and this factors in

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Speaker 4: very bigly potentially for us to me, is that kind

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Speaker 4: of universally accepted that Carnel Tate's going to be the

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Speaker 4: first receiver off the board. And I haven't even seen

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Speaker 4: any before the combine. There were mock drafts that there

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Speaker 4: Not anymore. Now it's Carnel Tate is the first. He's

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Speaker 4: off the board. The question is he and he's gonna

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Speaker 3: So that flipped.

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Speaker 2: That flipped from the comp going into the combine.

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Speaker 4: That's one of those ones at the combine where you

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Speaker 4: come out of it thinking, oh, there there is consensus on.

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Speaker 3: This, Yes that there. Yeah, right, we went in there

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Speaker 3: that a lot of people would say, But no, I

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Speaker 3: think it's pretty clear that that is he is the

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Speaker 3: We would love it. Let's go number six, Come on down,

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Speaker 3: Carnel Tate. Here we go up sold, sold easy easy.

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Speaker 3: By the way, he ran very similar to what ceedee

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Speaker 3: lamb ran if you even use the NFL's times, and

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Speaker 3: certainly no problem with that, Yes, no problem, just fine.

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Speaker 4: Faster than Ni Kua. Yeah, and so yeah, so there's

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Speaker 4: there's some positives on that. The other thing is happening now,

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Speaker 4: and this is kind of goes into what we were

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Speaker 4: talking about a little bit last week at the Combine

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Speaker 4: in terms of the timing of it is you're having

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Speaker 4: these trades are happening. So another massive trade today. We

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Speaker 4: actually mentioned him yesterday on the show, DJ Moore, But

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Speaker 4: the Bills today acquired DJ Moore. I think you even

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Speaker 4: mentioned the Bills.

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Speaker 3: For him, just the bills that it made sense make

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Speaker 3: Mike Evans, DJ Moore, Yeah, any of them for sure.

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Speaker 4: So DJ Moore will be a Buffalo Bill. So More

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Speaker 4: and a fifth round pick go to Buffalo. The Bears

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Speaker 4: acquire twenty twenty six second. The Bills will be guaranteeing

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Speaker 4: becomes fully guaranteed next week. He was going to be available.

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Speaker 4: AJ Brown's available, yep. Some people think Marvin Harrison is available.

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Speaker 4: This is when you can sort out right now, this

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Speaker 4: like a second and I'm getting a proven dude.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty rich based on what people thought. What part

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Speaker 3: may it makes it rich to you? The pick the

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Speaker 3: second round pick, and you know DJ Moore and maybe

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Speaker 3: he still is really, really, really good. I think when

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Speaker 3: think they're getting out of that contract? So the bills,

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Speaker 3: Not only are they taking on the contract, they also

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Speaker 3: guaranteed I think eighteen million of it in twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 3: so they basically have them for three years seventy four

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all valid points. I do think that there is,

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Speaker 4: especially when you're at the combine, there isn't at times

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Speaker 4: an over value of picks for sure, like, oh, you

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Speaker 4: can't give up a two, Well go pull up the

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Speaker 4: second round from three years ago.

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Speaker 2: How many of those guys are dudes. There's as many

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Speaker 2: misses as hits for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I think the Rams are like a great example now.

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Speaker 4: They have a lot of factors that work in their way. Right,

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Speaker 4: They've got a great place that people want to live.

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Speaker 4: It's a glamorous franchise. They've won a lot, but they

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Speaker 4: they don't really care about their ones. Oftentimes, they don't

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Speaker 4: care about their picks at all. They want players, go

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Speaker 4: give us players. They just did this yesterday with Kansas City,

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Speaker 4: So that's kind of the That's the one thing I

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Speaker 4: do think about the combine is there's all this talk

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Speaker 4: of like the value of all these picks, because that's

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Speaker 4: the business of the combine. And I'm not saying on

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Speaker 4: this DJ more case. You made plenty of great points

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Speaker 4: and all valid on the production dip all of it. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: for the Bears, he became redundant. Well there's how they've drafted.

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Speaker 4: They've got Roma Dunday's a stud, They've got tight ends

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Speaker 2: They got backs that are studs. Like, they don't need

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Speaker 3: No, And I think part of it really had to

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Speaker 3: with Josh Allen of being a Pro Bowl receiver fifteen

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Speaker 3: yards at least eight touchdowns all four seasons. So they

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Speaker 3: they have been on an unbelievable quest to try and

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Speaker 3: not really work out for them, even though it seems

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Speaker 3: their own press conference. They bury the guy. They make

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Speaker 3: a trade for Amari Cooper coming off of a twelve

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And then now they've made this trade for DJ Moore.

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Speaker 3: So you've got, you know, a general manager who has

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Speaker 3: This is it's interesting. I mean, look, I get their

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Speaker 3: twenty two catches three hundred eight yards no touchdowns last

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Speaker 3: year three yards. Sorry. Yep, So they've they've struggled, they're desperate. Now.

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Speaker 3: The question is, you know, DJ Moore they think is

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Speaker 3: it in the second round. Yeah, right, yep, clearly that's it,

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Speaker 3: the first round. I suppose it's Uh, he's at an

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Speaker 3: age to your point, it's a surprising one. It's an

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Speaker 3: age to your point, that is. I mean, so he'll

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Speaker 3: be twenty nine next month. Yeah, and they're paying him.

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Speaker 2: It's not the physical he doesn't have the physicalness physical

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Speaker 3: Right, He's six foot two ten and they're paying him

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Speaker 3: through twenty eight. Yeah, pretty significant money. This is the guy. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I like DJ Moore. DJ Moore in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: ninety six, thirteen, sixty four and eight. Okay, the last

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Speaker 3: three of his last four years have been eight eighty eight,

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Speaker 3: nine sixty six, six' eighty two and he has not

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Speaker 3: been over seven touchdowns in any of those. Seasons his

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Speaker 3: three thousand yard seasons is he's got a thousand season twenty,

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Speaker 3: three and then he had three from nineteen to twenty

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Speaker 3: one In carolina where he was quite. GOOD i Mean Dj,

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Speaker 3: moore pro, bowler quite. Good actually never been a pro,

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Speaker 3: year ninety, six, thirteen sixty four and, eight that feels

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Speaker 3: like A Pro. Bowl so the neck was in THE

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Speaker 3: nfc that year that prevented him twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Justin jefferson and, Yeah, jefferson Maybe, Puka, yeah probably. TWENTY

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Speaker 2: i mean you're gonna have four or Five pro bowlers that. Receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway as though you go through, it let's see

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Speaker 3: IF i can figure out very quickly for you wide.

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Speaker 3: Receivers So Stefan diggs ironically made it in THE, Afc

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Speaker 3: Okay tyreek killing THE. Afc that's WHAT i had to.

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Speaker 3: Be justin for seventeen hundred. Yards jefferson was a Monster jerry,

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Speaker 3: McLaurin oh, yeah, yeah which his numbers were definitely not

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Speaker 3: as good AS. Cj morre's that year in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: three And Justin jefferson those were the. Four so his

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Speaker 3: beef probably is with. McLaurin. Yeah, Anyway, yeah, look they're

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Speaker 3: going for, it they're trying to get it. Done and

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Speaker 3: McLaurin that year had one thousand and two and. Four

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Speaker 3: that's interesting, anyway.

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Speaker 2: Was washington winning in twenty twenty. Three that was Before

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Speaker 2: jayden And, daniels so they had they had.

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Speaker 3: To be, bad probably weren't very.

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Speaker 4: Good, yeah, interesting, Interesting but these are the type of

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Speaker 4: things that are, happening for, sure and so for sure

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Speaker 4: you still have a couple of receivers out. There so

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Speaker 4: then when you start talking about the draft and you

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Speaker 4: start thinking thinking, about, okay how are we going to

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Speaker 4: try to all of these pieces are gonna come, Together

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Speaker 4: we're going to make a puzzle out of. It the

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Speaker 4: reality is that some of these pieces can be acquired,

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Speaker 4: now and so then that changes everything about your. DRAFT

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Speaker 4: i mean the best example of, THIS i think was

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Speaker 4: twenty now nineteen offseason talking about what we were going

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Speaker 4: to do in the, draft and we spent all of

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Speaker 4: those days going over mock drafts and all of, that

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Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden we traded For Ode Beckham,

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Speaker 4: junior and it was, like, oh, well throw all that

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Speaker 4: out the. Window you don't have to worry about. That,

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Speaker 4: yeah we're going in a different way here in the first.

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Speaker 4: Round so not to suggest that you're trading any first round.

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Speaker 4: Picks you wouldn't do. It you have too many holes

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Speaker 4: that need to be. Addressed but the reality is is

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Speaker 4: you can do them in a bunch of different.

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Speaker 2: Ways and we're seeing that this.

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Speaker 3: Week you certainly, are and you're seeing teams that you, know,

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Speaker 3: again The bills really think that they are going, forward

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Speaker 3: and that's exactly what they are going to. Do by the,

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Speaker 3: way this is looking back at The Bryce young. Trade

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Speaker 3: panthers Got Bryce, Young bears Got Caleb, Williams Darnell, Wright Tyreek,

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Speaker 3: Stevenson Luther, burden and a twenty twenty six to sixth

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six second round pick sixtieth, overall pretty good

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Speaker 3: for The it's pretty good for The bears and a

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Speaker 3: couple seasons OF Dj moore that aren't even, included that aren't.

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Speaker 4: Included, YEAH i think the the only thing that salvage

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Speaker 4: is that a little For carolina is just for, them

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Speaker 4: AND i have no no dog in the. Fight but

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Speaker 4: from their, perspective thank god That bryce came around and

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Speaker 4: they made the postseason and he looks like he's all.

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Speaker 4: Right LIKE i don't know if he'll ever be like

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Speaker 4: An All pro or any of that type of, stuff

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Speaker 4: but you can win with, him and he played well last,

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Speaker 4: year and SO i mean this think about, it that

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Speaker 4: yeah from their, perspective, yeah at least they got a

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Speaker 4: year out of him where they, Go, okay, well at

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Speaker 4: least he's our he can be the face of the

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Speaker 4: franchise one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Percent he's. Not you might not Be Peyton.

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Speaker 4: Manning he's not going to be, that but may caing

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Speaker 4: me some version Of Drew, brees like eighty five percent

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Speaker 4: Of Drew. Brees, okay we can win with. That but

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Speaker 4: cut a year ago at this, time.

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Speaker 3: Then weren't they Playing Andy? Dalton, yes they pitched. Him, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah Andy. Dalton If i'm not. Mistaken lit up The

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Speaker 3: raiders right before two years, ago right before we went

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Speaker 3: To vegas through for like three thirty on, them right

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Speaker 3: when they Benched Bryce.

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Speaker 4: Young yeah, yeah because it was an Immediate you got

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Speaker 4: immediate gratification because it was, like Oh bryce does? Suck, yeah,

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Speaker 4: yeah look What andy just did and they won and

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Speaker 4: all of. That bryce ended up this year three thousand,

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Speaker 4: yards twenty three, touchdowns eleven.

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Speaker 3: Picks he's now a division. Champion he's a division.

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Speaker 2: Winner, OH i, know well aware.

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Speaker 3: By the way they played to, it to be, fair

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Speaker 3: played The rams pretty darn, tough and they did opening

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Speaker 3: round of the. PLAYOFFS i mean it Took stafford throwing

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Speaker 3: a dime down the. SIDELINE i want late late to

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Speaker 3: win that.

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Speaker 4: Game that's one of those styles make the, fights Because

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Speaker 4: carolina beat them earlier in the. Year, like it's interesting

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Speaker 4: that the teams The rams had trouble. WITH i wonder

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Speaker 4: if there's any. Correlation, yeah so what that? Is, yeah,

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Speaker 4: YEAH i don't. Know, yeah coming out of last year

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Speaker 4: when he got, benched he started. Fourteen he played in fourteen,

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Speaker 4: games sixty four h, three fifteen, touchdowns nine. Picks that

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Speaker 4: was looking really. Bad, yeah.

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Speaker 3: He finished two years. AGO i want to, say like

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Speaker 3: really really Strongly Bryce young did at the end of that.

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Speaker 3: SEASON i want to, say there's a game Against atlanta

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Speaker 3: In atlanta That atlanta needed to win to win their,

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Speaker 3: division and he beat, them AND i want to say

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Speaker 3: accounted for five total touchdowns as in my, mind let's See,

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Speaker 3: atlanta he owes twenty five of thirty four two fifty

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Speaker 3: one and three, touchdowns twenty four yards, rushing two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Rushing how about that five total. Touchdowns he finished the

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Speaker 3: season pretty. Strong his last three games of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: Four Bryce young threw seven, touchdowns ran for three with no.

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Speaker 3: Turnovers so ten total touchdowns in his last three, games no.

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Speaker 2: Turnovers, yeah, YEAH i was just looking at like his game.

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Speaker 3: Logs, yeah the rookie season was nice. Bad he was pretty.

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Speaker 2: Scary it's pretty, bad, Buddy, yeah pretty pretty. Bad. Yeah

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Speaker 2: in the The stafford, game really.

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Speaker 4: Efficient the First rams, game he was fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 4: two oh, six three, touchdowns no picks in that. Game

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Speaker 4: that was in late Late november when when that.

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Speaker 2: Happened so, yeah and then he played How she's twenty

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Speaker 2: one to.

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Speaker 4: Forty for two sixty four touchdown a, pick touchdown and a,

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Speaker 4: pick but bade some big throws.

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Speaker 3: LATE i mean they had, it they were, There they

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Speaker 3: were there pretty uh at the end of that, game

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Speaker 3: they had a. Chance so and he ran for twenty

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Speaker 3: four yards and a touchdown in that playoff game as,

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Speaker 3: Well so two, touchdowns one.

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Speaker 4: Pick having done this as long as you have and

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Speaker 4: been involved in watching all the film that you have

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Speaker 4: and all the time we spent at the combine and

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Speaker 4: the varying degrees of opinion that happened over.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 4: Could you can you pinpoint a couple of things in your,

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Speaker 4: head any theories as to why it is so difficult

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Speaker 4: to identify.

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Speaker 3: QUARTERBACK i think that one there really isn't just a

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Speaker 3: straight translation from what you see in the college game

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Speaker 3: to THE nfl. Game think about how much there is

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Speaker 3: in the college. Game is you're in, Shotgun you're getting

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Speaker 3: everything from the. Sideline you don't get to do that

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Speaker 3: in THE. Nfl it's a lot of the you, know the,

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Speaker 3: clamp it's not calling not calling plays in the. Huddle

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Speaker 3: you're not under center nearly as. Much and so you

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Speaker 3: get into a lot of these situations where a lot

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Speaker 3: of these quarterbacks come here without an understanding of all

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Speaker 3: the things that takes actually play quarterback in THE. Nfl

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Speaker 3: just From i'm just an operational, standpoint getting the play call,

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Speaker 3: the running game from under, center getting your steps in

436
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 3: rhythm from the back to the defense play action. GAME i,

437
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: mean how often do they go back to the defense

438
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 3: play action? College not all that. Often SO i think

439
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 3: there are a lot that is part of. IT i

440
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: think that even as nil is maybe kind of spreading

441
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 3: talent around a little bit. More you, know it's hard

442
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 3: to see these. Guys there's not a whole lot of

443
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: like talent opportunities out. There, No and there's also not

444
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: a lot of like opportunities or their. Receivers, no it's

445
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: hard to. Extrapolate so the other thing, IS i think

446
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 3: guys who are maybe you, know you see, them and oh,

447
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: man they're plenty. Athletic LIKE i don't think people remember

448
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: What John football's rushing stats were in.

449
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: College he's a thousand yeard rusher in THE.

450
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 3: Sec he couldn't get to, that he couldn't get away

451
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 3: from defensive linement in THE. Nfl, No SO i think

452
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 3: that there are that's part of, it and then the

453
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 3: other part is in college typically you, know now Cam

454
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 3: ward had a, journey, Right mendoza wasn't supposed to be

455
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 3: a number one overall. Pick Cam ward wasn't supposed to

456
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 3: be a number one overall. Pick for a while there

457
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 3: it was guys that were at pretty good, places you,

458
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 3: know and having. Success but it's such talent is not.

459
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: Enough it is such a full lifestyle. Commitment AND i

460
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,239
Speaker 3: don't know that you ever can really know what a

461
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 3: twenty one year old and now by the time and

462
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 3: they get, drafted it's not just after they get drafted their,

463
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: millionaires but what a twenty one year old multi millionaire

464
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 3: at that, point how they're if they're willing to make

465
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: it their full lifestyle to do everything they can to

466
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: be the best at their position and to master the.

467
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: Craft like if you Took Kirk cousins' approach to the

468
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: game and put it in a more talented, body that's

469
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: how you have.

470
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: You, know Great Tom, Brady, yeah that's how you have.

471
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 4: Greatness, Yeah manning like they have that they have the

472
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 4: combination of the talent and the give a damn level

473
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 4: and the understanding of what it takes to be a,

474
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 4: professional and they were driven by.

475
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: That you hits on something at the top THAT.

476
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 4: I think is really, interesting AND i do think it's

477
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 4: a big contributor we talk a lot about AND i

478
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 4: think the overwhelming thing is like making sure they have

479
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: the right, support making sure you're landing in the right.

480
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 4: Spot so oftentimes you draft guy early and you need

481
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 4: it to sell tickets and jerseys and all those things

482
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: and be a face of a.

483
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: Franchise thinking About.

484
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 4: Carr is a great Not Derek, David, yeah which With,

485
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 4: houston which they you, know you drafted him to be

486
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 4: the face of a. Franchise something that happened here With Tim,

487
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 4: couch like when we were an expansion. Team like you

488
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 4: just that is not the right thing to do with,

489
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 4: expansion is to go that way because but you need,

490
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 4: it because you need, Excitement you need fans to be.

491
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 4: Excited so there's that business aspect of, it AND i

492
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 4: think that's the number one. Thing it's, like is the

493
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 4: support system in place to put them in a position to.

494
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 4: Succeed but the other thing THAT i think that you

495
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: hit on THAT i think is really. INTERESTING i think

496
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 4: it's an underrated part that people talk about. Enough it's the.

497
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: Verbage it's the. Verbage these guys are how to read.

498
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 4: Defenses they read defenses in. College but for the most,

499
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 4: part to your, point they go to the line of.

500
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 4: Scrimmage they get it in, there they make a. Signal

501
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 4: the whole, offense by the, way gets it from the,

502
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 4: sideline or they get it in the now they have

503
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 4: it in their in their, headsets and so they huddle

504
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 4: more like O High states that had a lot more

505
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 4: the last two, years but still their play call verbage

506
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: is an eighth of what it might be With shanahan

507
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 4: Or laflora in the. League and we saw this With

508
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 4: Caleb williams and when he first got With Ben, johnson

509
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 4: he couldn't get out of the huddle because the verbage

510
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: was wrecking him like he was he could get. Stopped

511
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 4: so all of a, sudden the clock is.

512
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: Ticking you're thinking about, verbage and even if you do get,

513
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: it spit out enough time that you can get to

514
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: the line and get the snap and all of those.

515
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: Things now you're thinking about you're not thinking about the.

516
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: Defense you think about. It DID i say all that?

517
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: Right and that's just a simple one that people really miss.

518
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: On, yep AND i would say that we call an.

519
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: Operation, yeah that's all part of the. Operation.

520
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah and even the further that is that in college

521
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: and a lot of the college quarterback tape you, watch

522
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: they get the initial play, in they get. Set everybody

523
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: then turns the. Side the coaches have now seen what

524
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: the defense is, doing they give, them you know, whatever

525
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: checks or and the defenses aren't as sophisticated as in THE,

526
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 3: nfl where they're going check, check, check check, check you,

527
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 3: know back and forth playing that chess, match.

528
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: Because they're college.

529
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: Kids they're not as well, versed and so you have

530
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: a situation where the, quarterback by the time they're getting the,

531
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: ball they're really probably one Thing kyle does so on

532
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 3: THE nfl is he creates us in The National Football

533
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 3: league where a lot of the times he schemes the

534
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: plays up so well that it's putting one defender in,

535
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 3: conflict and that one defender is really who the quarterback

536
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: is reading to determine where the ball is going to.

537
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: Go in, college they have tons of one read, THROWS

538
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 3: i mean tons of one read, throws and if you're

539
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: playing with really good, receivers you're playing against. Zones it's

540
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: just different in THE. Nfl they how quickly you know

541
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: the windows, close how quickly you must make a. DECISION

542
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: i think the other thing in college is now this

543
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: was not the case With shador because he's. Line he got,

544
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: battered AND i think that's one of the reasons he's

545
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: able to hang in the pocket and make some of

546
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 3: the throws we saw even here in THE nfl last.

547
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: Year is if you're at one of the good, schools

548
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 3: like your lines are just better than the d. Lines

549
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: you have, big you have got. You it's why it's

550
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 3: just hard to. KNOW i deal with that With Ohio

551
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: state all the.

552
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 4: Time it's just you don't know how good you are

553
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 4: until you until it's almost too late to know how

554
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: good you, Are, like, well you don't get you don't

555
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 4: get talent versus, talent so that like this just is

556
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 4: a quick, offshoot like WHEN i do The, heisman how'd

557
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 4: you do against the five best teams you? Played that's

558
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: my number one, thing BECAUSE i like.

559
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: WHEN i watched tape and.

560
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 4: Tape that's WHEN i did that With orlowski last week

561
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 4: when he was talking about the first eight, games like that's.

562
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: Nonsense does Make who? Cares how did he play Against Ohio?

563
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: State how did he play Against? Miami that's WHAT i

564
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: want to. Know when talent, equated how did he play.

565
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 3: And had some gut to have? Its yeah he had

566
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 3: he got.

567
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 2: It that's what matters to.

568
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 4: ME i don't care about what you did when you're,

569
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 4: playing you, know paycheck games in the early part of the,

570
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 4: year even some of the dregs of these.

571
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: Conferences, yeah it's.

572
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: It's. Tough Will, HOWARD i, think is a great. EXAMPLE

573
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 3: i mean you if all you did was look at his,

574
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: size watch him make some, throws looked at the box,

575
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: Scores you're, like how did this this guy not go

576
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: in the first? Round he's got the, size seems good, enough,

577
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 3: leader made huge throws In Ohio, state and he goes

578
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: in the fifth. Round Dyan rodgers had a lot of

579
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: nice things to say about, him and maybe he'll be

580
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: one of those guys that were rush where he gets

581
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: drafted late and maybe it works out for. Him but you,

582
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: know it's a situation where clearly THE nfl saw him totally,

583
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: differently and now maybe THE nfl is going to be

584
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 3: ultimately wrong about. That maybe they're. Right obviously He's browns.

585
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 3: Fans we. Don't we don't Need Will howard, to you,

586
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: know be the savior for The Pittsburgh. Steelers BUT i

587
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: think that's to, me that's a prime example of. It

588
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: if you just box score, Scouting guy's completed what seventy

589
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: percent of his passes last. Year he was super, efficient

590
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: didn't turn the ball, over made big. Plays but then you're, saying,

591
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: well now he's throwing To Jeremiah smith And Carnel tate

592
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: and A Mecca, buka A Mecha buca Like henderson and

593
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: Jud Judge. Dickens you have a first, rounder you have offensive.

594
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: TACKLES i, mean you basically have three first round wide,

595
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: receivers one who's probably gonna be picked in the top,

596
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: five and you had two very early second round running.

597
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 4: Backs, YEAH i, mean so you you bring up him

598
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: and he's it's actually the perfect example of WHY i

599
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: think this is such a hard. Issue Will howard's last

600
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: year at Case, state which is a nice. Program Kansas

601
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: state's a nice, program but it's not clearly in the

602
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: vicinity Of Ohio. State so his last year At Kansas,

603
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 4: state he completed sixty one percent of his. Passes by the,

604
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: Way he's a four year starter. There he started over

605
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: the four seasons and so his last, year his senior

606
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: year AT Kse, state sixty twenty six forty, three twenty four,

607
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 4: touchdowns ten. Picks his one single season At Ohio state

608
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: seventy three percent, Completions so he jumped twelve percentage points

609
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 4: from an accuracy, standpoint four thousand, yards thirty five, touchdowns ten.

610
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: Picks so he got in a better, situation exponentially better,

611
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 4: situation and played. Better, Right so that's WHY i think

612
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: the college at, all all of the points were Making

613
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 4: mary it, all it all is part of putting that puzzle.

614
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: Together BUT i think it's just the hardest thing you

615
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: can do in. Sports, well, yeah it really, is because

616
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: there's just there are no sure. Things they do not,

617
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 4: exist they don't exist at that. Position it's all completely.

618
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: Argumentative it's all completely in the eye of the. Beholder

619
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: i'll never Forget i'll never Forget Jim rome Arguing Ryan

620
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: leaf Over Peyton manning Because peyton mann quote couldn't win

621
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 4: the big.

622
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: One he argued it.

623
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: Vehemently, yeah that it should have Been Ryan leaf Over

624
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 4: Peyton manning leading into that.

625
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: Draft which is As peyton can Read. Peyton it's.

626
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 4: Crazy But peyton was owed four Against. Florida he played

627
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: in One National championship game is junior. Year they didn't win,

628
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 4: it and he was, like, wow he can't win the big.

629
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: One why would you draft a guy you. Can't you

630
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 4: can't be, clutch can't be a big win the big.

631
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: One mean mind the guy who's now considered co greatest

632
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: of all time with the Great Joe, montana is a

633
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 4: sixth round.

634
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: PICK i did that for, You thank.

635
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: You Joe.

636
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: Montana never, lost never lost The Super, bowl, yeah never,

637
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 4: lost never. Lost but THAT i, THINK i think that's

638
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 4: what why it is so. Brutal perry's another great recent.

639
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: Example you, know.

640
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: Well that the crazy thing With peyton is when we,

641
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: talk we talk him the greatest regular season quarterback of all.

642
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: Time so maybe there was Something Jim rome might have been,

643
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: right might have Been. Ryan but you, know For, peyton

644
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: e wins one year where they Beat, Bears Rex, grossman,

645
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: yep and then obviously he's In denver and they get

646
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: it done.

647
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 4: There that wasn't his best. Year he was a caretaker

648
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: at that. Point they got bombed by The, seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Annihilated, yeah it was. Over.

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00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah it was like was it A Percy harvin punt

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Speaker 4: return and a and then like a pick six or

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Speaker 4: they're done fourteen to.

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Speaker 2: Nothing it was a.

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00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: Beating, yeah it was over right. Away so it is.

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00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: Hard AND i think one of the things that THE

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Speaker 3: nfl has done very well when they re you, Know

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Speaker 3: Sam bradford's draft, class which Was Joe hayden's draft, class

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Speaker 3: that was the last one where the rookies were coming

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Speaker 3: in and making elite money right, away that when you

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Speaker 3: missed on a quarterback then under those, auspices it was a.

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00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: Killer your franchise was fully guaranteed contract to this rookie

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Speaker 3: at at an elite level before they done anything in THE.

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Speaker 3: Nfl so, now at least the good news is you

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Speaker 3: can keep sweeting because you can get out of, it,

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Speaker 3: yes like you can move on from it and and

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Speaker 3: get over those. Mistakes it's a, uh it's just fascinating

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Speaker 3: to me because there's there is no there's nobody who's

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Speaker 3: figured it, Out like The Green Bay packers is an

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Speaker 3: organization probably have done it the best in our. Lifetime

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Speaker 3: and they they traded For farv they saw something in,

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Speaker 3: him they traded for. Him they Drafted rogers ahead of,

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Speaker 3: Schedule they Drafted love ahead of, schedule and they hit

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Speaker 3: on all of.

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Speaker 2: Them, now did they miss Super bowl? Opportunities both?

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00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: Chances, like if you draft a position player instead Of,

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Speaker 4: rogers does farv win another? One if you draft a

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00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: position player instead of Of Bryce, love do they Or Jordan?

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Speaker 2: Love do they do they win another?

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Speaker 3: One who?

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00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: Knows but they've been in the mix for our whole.

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00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: Life and they've had three great. Quarterbacks.

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00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah the fact that they've only won it's crazy two

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00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: and they only won one in The rogers zero when

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00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: he was winning all those m vps as, nuts it really.

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Speaker 4: Is and they probably should have won two in a

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00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: row with Far they lost to give his best buddy

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Speaker 4: out once on the helicopter, Play so that's that was

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Speaker 4: probably the only. Thing but they're not quite like the

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Speaker 4: teams they do have. Two, yeah they won two Super, Bowls,

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Speaker 4: yeah in thirty. Years so and they're the ones who

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Speaker 4: have done it, Best like there's something in the water

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Speaker 4: where they are able to identify that position and DRAFT

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Speaker 4: nfl stars the three times they've tried.

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Speaker 3: To do, it and they've had you and part you'd

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Speaker 3: have to say they also did it had a good

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Speaker 3: job of a good you, know you Had Holme, Grin,

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Speaker 3: yeah was at the peak of his. Powers. There you

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Speaker 3: had McCarthy With, rogers and you've had now the floor

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Speaker 3: With love and coaches look better with good. Quarterbacks BUT

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Speaker 3: i think some you had offensive gurus who helped you,

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Speaker 3: know those guys come. Along, yeah and they Didn't they

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Speaker 3: didn't have to rush either of the second, two right

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Speaker 3: like they didn't Have they didn't have to Rush rogers

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00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: and they didn't have to Rush Jordan. Love, no and

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00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: it's worked out very. Well it is. Hard and, listen

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Speaker 3: we've been on the quest for Since. Bernie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah and you've tried it every way.

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Speaker 2: Possible you, know you've tried it every single.

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Speaker 3: One two number one overall picks, yep that's really it

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Speaker 3: at the. Top and then you've had three guys that

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Speaker 3: you picked twenty second. Overall we Didn't, Quinn weed And manziel. Yep,

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Speaker 3: yeah and obviously the huge trade For Shan. WATSON i

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Speaker 3: mean you're picking. Swings no lack of.

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Speaker 2: Trying, no it's really. Hard it's really hard to be

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Speaker 2: able to.

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Speaker 4: Do, yeah and there's no there's no easy way to

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Speaker 2: Chat so The florida we have an update On florio.

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Speaker 2: V Schefter. Florio SO i get What florio is doing.

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Speaker 3: Here he's loving the engagement of.

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Speaker 2: It, yeah he loves the.

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Speaker 5: Engagement click, click.

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Speaker 3: But his headline was pretty. Ridiculous our item about the

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Speaker 3: effort to so doubt Regarding Carnel tate's forty yard dashtime

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Speaker 3: got Under Adam schefter's. Skin here's why his screenshots missed

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00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: the point and why he should have just let it.

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Speaker 3: Go that's that's. There that's his.

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Speaker 2: Tweet, well it's, his he wrote.

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Speaker 3: It i'm sure.

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Speaker 4: Do you Do DOCTOR j And Young gabriel Understand florio's?

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Speaker 4: Assent like do they know how this all? HAPPENED i

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00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: don't think they. Do ask them it says, no he.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't Young, gabriel do you have any point like WHEN

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Speaker 4: i when you think About, florio how would you describe

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Speaker 4: what he?

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00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: Does or like what's his? JOB i mean he's just

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00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: a pro football talk.

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00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 4: GUY i mean, no, no, no BUT i MEAN i guess

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Speaker 4: What i'm asking is so like there are, scouts there are,

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Speaker 4: analysts there are. Insiders there are, hosts there are how

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Speaker 4: would you under? That what silo would you put?

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Speaker 2: Him probably a? Host more?

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Speaker 4: Host, okay, OKAY i think how about DOCTOR. J what

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Speaker 4: would he how would he in one of the? Silos

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Speaker 4: which one makes?

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Speaker 3: Sense he doesn't even.

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Speaker 4: Know he doesn't even. Know, Shocking here's WHAT i would,

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Speaker 4: Say DOCTOR. J come, on, baby DOCTOR.

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Speaker 3: J he's making lots of, gestures, Right he's fired himself.

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Speaker 2: Up he has a great.

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Speaker 3: Jacket we know that he doesn't even mind being in

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Speaker 3: a big. Jacket he likes a big.

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Speaker 4: Jacket SO i don't know the people Like florio attorney by,

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Speaker 4: trade and before social media Pro Football, talk he was

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Speaker 4: an aggregator still, is but like you would go To

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Speaker 4: Pro Football talk for he would go and he would

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Speaker 4: link every BIG nfl all THE nfl stories for the.

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Speaker 4: Day and WHEN i was first started doing sports talk,

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Speaker 4: RADIO i would go there and, go, oh what's happening

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Speaker 4: in the.

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Speaker 2: League this was.

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00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: Before, twitter it was before social media and things were

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Speaker 4: shared like. That so you would go to his site

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Speaker 4: and you'd kind, Of, okay here's everything that happened in

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Speaker 4: the league.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday that was that's how he. La so it's funny

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Speaker 2: how would you what sila.

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Speaker 4: Would you put him under in terms of of, host, analyst.

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Speaker 4: INSIDER i would put him under this From lord of The. Rings,

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Speaker 4: yeah disturber of the.

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Speaker 2: Piece it's got a little bit of that to, him

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Speaker 2: a little bit of. That he's not an, analyst definitely.

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Speaker 3: Not he is not an. INSIDER i think he carries.

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Speaker 2: Himself as an. INSIDER i think he fancies himself an.

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Speaker 2: INSIDER i THINK nbc. FLOATS i think so. TOO i

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Speaker 2: think they use him the way That fox.

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Speaker 3: USES J, sure BUT i feel like they're it.

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Speaker 4: Could be more, different AND i THINK i think that

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Speaker 4: the person THAT i think for a lot of people

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Speaker 4: that's so surprised those guys said what they. SAID i

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Speaker 4: think for a lot of, people they think that they

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Speaker 4: see like what him And schefter do is. Similar they

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Speaker 4: couldn't be. Less, NO i don't see.

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Speaker 3: It SO i see him, HONESTLY i see him as

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Speaker 3: the host OF Pft.

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Speaker 4: Live, okay so that's where you're the analyst that you're

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Speaker 4: getting that from PF T. Live, YEAH i think OF

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Speaker 4: i don't ever watch. That i've never seen that, show

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Speaker 4: SO i ONLY i think of Him Sunday Night football thing.

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Speaker 3: And went nuts about The.

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Speaker 6: Nucci oh my, GOSH i listened driving. In i'll listen

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Speaker 6: because it's ON Nbc.

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Speaker 3: Sports.

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Speaker 2: YEAH i Like.

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Speaker 5: Chris, yeah that's a really Good.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: YEAH i mean they have some good back and forth about.

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Speaker 5: Things so he's.

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Speaker 6: FUNNY i think, he like you, said he likes to

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Speaker 1: Up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah so he like he's living his best life

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Speaker 4: right now with. This all, right we have some free agent.

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Speaker 4: Rankings who are these? FROM i forget who put. These

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Speaker 4: these Are Matt bowen's offense and defense free agent, Rankings

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Speaker 4: so we understand where we.

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Speaker 2: Are from a cap spot and all of.

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Speaker 4: That so what we Had doc to z do is

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Speaker 4: we had him go through and highlight some of the

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Speaker 4: guys that would be logical targets for us in these.

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Speaker 3: Lists fair, Fair, doc, dizzy All, Right defense is easier

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Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think that there are not as many options.

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Speaker 3: Here it starts, off obviously with a bunch of edge.

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Speaker 3: RUSHERS i don't think we're into that. Market could you

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Speaker 3: look for a slot corner like A Lante? TAYLOR i think.

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Speaker 3: SO i just don't think we're. SPENDING i don't think

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Speaker 3: we're going to be big spenders on the defensive. Side

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00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: of the. FOOTBALL i think the first thing that you

839
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Speaker 3: want to do on defense to me is make sure

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Speaker 3: you bring Back Devin. Bush so if you bring Back Devin,

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Speaker 3: bush that alleviates a lot of your. Issues he had

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Speaker 3: a career best year last. Year loves this, team loves

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Speaker 3: this playing For, tarv loves the, system, yep loves everything about.

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Speaker 3: It SO i want him to come. BACK i think

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Speaker 3: he wants to come, back. Yep so you do that

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00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 3: now if you don't bring him back and you go

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00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: to the free agent. World SO i think that there

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Speaker 3: Is Leo chanal from The Kansas City chiefs will be

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Speaker 3: twenty five entering this. Season he's been pretty, good can

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Speaker 3: get to he can be an Ad On. Blitzer he can,

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Speaker 3: play you, know the. Linebacker he can play pretty much

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Speaker 3: anywhere you want him to play and help against the.

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Speaker 3: RUN Ni Kobe dean would be somebody THAT i would

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00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: Imagine toddunkin would have a great deal of familiarity with

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00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: bounce back from a knee injury last year and came

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00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 3: back and from the twenty two our playoffs when he

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00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: suffered big knee andjrew when we were. There he was

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00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 3: actually rehabbing the whole. Time that we were there In.

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00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Good blitzer can got a ton of, speed great,

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Speaker 3: athleticism so he could be a will beyond. That, AGAIN

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Speaker 3: i don't think that The browns are going to be

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00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: in the market. Now there could be a veteran kind

863
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: of third. Safety that's somebody that you know you're looking,

864
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: at A Nick cross for. Example but, really to, ME

865
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: i think on the defensive side first and, foremost you

866
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: want to Retain Devin bush And Ronnie. Hickman, Yep Kobe

867
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: durant from The rams as a guy who could play

868
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: inside at three picks last. Year BUT i really think

869
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: that's where you're looking. For could it there be a

870
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: big veteran defensive tackle like A Sheldon rankins who just

871
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 3: played for The, texans which is a similar front to. Ours, yep,

872
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: Sure BUT i think really you're going to see most

873
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: of your your expenditure is going to come on the

874
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: offensive side of the. Ball so that's WHERE i, put you,

875
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: know most of my time and most of the names

876
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: That i'm looking at. Here you know you put you

877
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: can put names. Down you, say, Oh browns would being

878
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: On Tyler, linderbaum of course they would. Be we're not

879
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: The browns aren't gonna be able to afford. Him Alec,

880
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: Pierce they're not going to be able to afford him.

881
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: Either you, know you're looking for another. Tackle do they,

882
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: draft you, know one of these guys that people actually

883
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 3: think are more guards and so they get another, tackle

884
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: you like A Branden. Smith sure that's. Possible Malik? Willis

885
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: would you look at let? Me of course you can

886
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: look At Malik. Willis DO i think we're be able

887
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: to afford? Him? No so DO i think it's? Realistic?

888
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: No DO i Think Kyler murray's? Realistic, no because he's

889
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: going to get to pick where he wants to. GO

890
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: i Mentioned Romeo. DOBBS i think he'll be priced out

891
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: of what we can do, there but certainly would be,

892
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: intrigued you, know would be kick the Tires isaiah likely

893
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: if somebody you're probably gonna take a look at because

894
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: of the familiarity with monkn but he's much more of

895
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: a move tight. End could you have him be that

896
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: second tight end with you, Know Harold fannon of, course

897
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: but then you still need a. Blocker you could get

898
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: the big. Kid what's the big kid's name From Ohio?

899
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: State is, McKay, Yeah kasmeric you could Get, kasmeric he

900
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: could be that big wy for, you so you would

901
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 3: still need that guards and. Centers Isaac, siumlow who is

902
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: just with The, steelers multiple time pro. BOWLER i think

903
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: The browns would be interesting him now he's thirty two years.

904
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: Old he's not a long term, solution but it's trying

905
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: to put your line together this year and maybe Give

906
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: zaxon or another, year, like, okay let's see what you can.

907
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: Do Zion johnson is a different. One he is only twenty.

908
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: Six hasn't been a great pass blocker in his career,

909
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: though but a younger and could be a longer term.

910
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: Solution connor McGovern has been a very steady center in

911
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: this league for a long time Alongside David. Edwards both

912
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: of these guys on the, bills those are guys that

913
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: The browns could look. At Chicka. KONQUO i just think

914
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: he's gonna be priced out of what The browns are

915
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: looking at at the tight end. Position Joel battonio obviously

916
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: The browns hope that he comes. Back Wandale robinson's an interesting,

917
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: one BUT i really JUST i don't five eight one

918
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: eight five. SLOT i just don't know if that's what

919
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: we're looking.

920
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: FOR i didn't, understand like some people have him really

921
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 4: high on lists and he's a nice, player BUT i

922
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: don't he.

923
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: Is a good. Player he's a guy who should go

924
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: To like if The rams ended up not drafting a,

925
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: receiver he go play slot for The, rams go play

926
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: slot for The. Falcons. Falcons, yeah good team like. That

927
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: Cade mays the center In. Carolina, again you're just looking

928
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: at positions more than. ANYTHING i don't think we want

929
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: Another Houston tech guard At ingram because their line was not.

930
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 3: Good Jalen naylor's a guy THAT i think possibly could

931
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: be in the mixed twenty six, receiver can run, routes

932
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: fifteen yards of, catch good, size, dtrs high school. TEAMMATE

933
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: i think that makes he makes a little bit of.

934
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: Sense Vera, tucker who was a first, pick missed a

935
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: ton of time with. Injury but you know we've liked

936
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: first round you KNOW x first round. Picks Chris, paul

937
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: not the basketball player who's, retiring but The commander's, guard

938
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: our offensive line our assistant offensive line coach was his

939
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: offensive line. Coach you're just kind of connecting. Dots could

940
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: obviously if he liked. Him, yeah you would, know and

941
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: maybe that's somebody that they would look. At charliekohler makes

942
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: a lot of sense to. Me BUT i do think

943
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 3: you can Find Charlie kohler's skill set in the draft

944
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: for a lot. Cheaper that's kind of a luxury pick

945
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: to have him as a you, know as a just

946
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: a blocking tight. End but those are some of the

947
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 3: names that that i'd be looking. At, again another connection

948
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 3: To Washington beattish who is the center there last. Year

949
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: and Then Daniel foley who was a guard In. Baltimore

950
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: monken would know, Him Travis switzer would know, him Very

951
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 3: george or hopoo. Him so you're looking, at you, Know

952
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 3: raven's commander's. Connections those guys are down the. List could

953
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: those be people that you're trying to.

954
00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 2: Get, yeah AND i THINK i THINK i think Be,

955
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: ASH i think he Is. WISCONSIN i THINK i think

956
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: he played At. Wisconsin it could Be honor something like.

957
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 4: That here's this would be the kind of the lesson in,

958
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: THIS i would, think and incredible job of.

959
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 2: You i've gone through all of, those but kind of

960
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: the lesson that the TAKEAWAY i would have is if

961
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: you're goal and this is just to, understand this is

962
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: going to be very similar to some of the some

963
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: of the other more recent years where we've done this

964
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 2: type of. Thing if you're going.

965
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,479
Speaker 4: To bring in a blue Chip ish or blue chip

966
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: talent to this roster that is not from the, draft

967
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 4: it is going to have to come for.

968
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: Trade that's the most. Likely that's the way it's gonna

969
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 2: have to. Happen but you could Do.

970
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: You could absolutely do A Marvin harrison junior trade and

971
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 4: bring that type of talent in. Here now you have

972
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 4: to have a dance. Partner they got to be willing

973
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: to all of. That but ab has done. That he's

974
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: done that With, judy he done, it he's done it With.

975
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 4: Amari so if you're very good at, it and our

976
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 4: ownership group is more than willing to make sure that

977
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: we that he gets whatever he needs to make sure

978
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: those deals can get. Done so if you're thinking about

979
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 4: how can we do a massive upgrade in terms of A,

980
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 4: okay now we've got a dude at this spot where

981
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: we have, need it's going to come be a, trade

982
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: not be a free. Agency and so any you Mentioned,

983
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: linderbomb there's no, chance no.

984
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: Chance it is on the record that the that The

985
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: ravens offered him the most a center has ever been.

986
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: Compensated he, Said, NO i don't know who's.

987
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 6: In the linder bomb platform or stratus with a lot Of,

988
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 6: bears maybe because after what happened to them the other.

989
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 6: NIGHT i don't think there are many.

990
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 4: Things About, yeah The bears obviously because of what just.

991
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 4: HAPPENED i, mean it's possibly ends up back In, baltimore right.

992
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: It.

993
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: IS i think they will make a big push to

994
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: make sure that that is exactly what.

995
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 4: Happens, yeah he just wanted to test the waters and

996
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 4: and you, know maybe he ends up back. THERE i

997
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 4: was going to pull up spot track to see who

998
00:48:53,480 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 4: has the, Space, like who has cap space the? Most

999
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 4: let me get TO nfl. Contracts what's the easiest way

1000
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 4: to do?

1001
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: This over the? Cap is it over the.

1002
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: Cap yet you have?

1003
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 7: It?

1004
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah no cap tracker on spot.

1005
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 5: Track there you.

1006
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: Go so it's The chargers who have the.

1007
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 4: Most they have almost one hundred million in cap. Space Then,

1008
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: tennessee Then, vegas Then washington and The. Jets oh my,

1009
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 4: God seattle's got sixty million in cap. Space, yeah this,

1010
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 4: says when's the last time A Super bowl champion had the.

1011
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 6: Ten now they've got to PAY jsn and they've got

1012
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 6: to Pay.

1013
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 5: WITHERSPOON i think.

1014
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: Both they don't have to PAY. Jsn, now so.

1015
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: What were the, Numbers, well the numbers that you, had

1016
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: so this takes out dead money and all of. That

1017
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 3: this says that the Charge chargers ninety nine effective ninety two,

1018
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: MILLION i don't, know defective cap. Space so it's probably

1019
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: the space that team will have after signing at least

1020
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 3: fifty one, players and it's projected rookie class to its.

1021
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: Roster, okay so they take it a step.

1022
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: Further chargers ninety, Two, titans eighty One, raiders seventy Three,

1023
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: jets fifty Eight, commanders sixty Three, seahawks fifty Four, bengals Forty,

1024
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: steelers thirty Four patriots thirty five Nine, ers thirty Three,

1025
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 3: cardinals Nineteen, rams twenty Two, broncos twenty One, chiefs Fourteen,

1026
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: bucks Fourteen, ravens Eight, eagles Seven giants are currently under

1027
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 3: the or over the cap right. Now cowboys two, Million

1028
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: panthers four, Million bears three, Million falcon six, million and

1029
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 3: then everybody else including us is currently over the. Cap

1030
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 3: now we'll we're gonna get under the, cap but that's

1031
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 3: what it has as of right. Now. Yeah now we'll

1032
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: jump up to and you the projection's forward for salary

1033
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: cap space in twenty twenty, seven we're projected to have

1034
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: a ton of, money top top ten in the.

1035
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 2: League, yeah, SO i mean you just think like Your, Chargers.

1036
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: Seahawks Unfortunately pittsburgh And.

1037
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 4: Cincinnati cincinnati won't be, aggressive SO i don't see anything happening.

1038
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: THERE i, mean Even New england has a ton of.

1039
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: Space.

1040
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 4: Yep so these are contending teams with. Space oh, yeah

1041
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 4: so and in one instance A Super bowl champion with.

1042
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: Space so that's kind of the setup on this free.

1043
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,240
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1059
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1060
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1061
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Speaker 4: Together one thing we always talk about is how you

1062
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 4: get here on A Sunday monday and you have some

1063
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: preconceived notions and then by the time you get to

1064
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: the end of the, week a lot of times it's

1065
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 4: very very. Different what is what is your typical combine week?

1066
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 7: Experience, Like, well the end of the week is people

1067
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 7: are all hung, over nice and nice and. Drinking so

1068
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 7: let's just be honest to. Start, ready that's, right three

1069
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 7: in the. Morning, gosh let me get through. This but

1070
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 7: you Know i've been saying, this it's like now it's

1071
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 7: changed so. Much just you, know WHEN i first started

1072
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 7: coming here in nineteen ninety seven or. Something it's completely

1073
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 7: different than. Now that's because of, technology and now you

1074
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 7: don't even have teams coming coming, here you, know showing

1075
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 7: up and you know McVeigh really started at because they

1076
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 7: had success and won A Super bowl and drafted great

1077
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 7: players throughout that. Stretch now other teams are looking at, saying,

1078
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 7: well we can do that, too you know where it's

1079
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 7: some other teams are, like this is the end all be.

1080
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 7: All we got to be, Here we gotta get these,

1081
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 7: times we gotta have these these measurements and have to

1082
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 7: still smell, it breathed and talk to the guys and

1083
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 7: do all. That so every team has a different approach

1084
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 7: of how they're valuing the combine, now and it's changing each.

1085
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 7: Year one of the.

1086
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: Things we always love is that typically by the time

1087
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 3: we leave, here you, learn oh this is the, trade

1088
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 3: this trade's gonna go, down or this team loves that.

1089
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: Guy when you're, here what are what are you trying

1090
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 3: to gather in your time? Here, like what is what's

1091
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 3: what are the top goals you have in terms of your? Information,

1092
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 3: yeah you, know.

1093
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 7: The conversations are always key during the, day during the

1094
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 7: night to a lot of the, Honestly i'm joking about,

1095
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 7: that but, no nighttime is where the magic happens and

1096
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 7: dudes are yeah, yeah over over a f, leg you.

1097
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 7: Know so it's, uh you know that that's a real.

1098
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 7: Thing it's the information gathering and just talking and gaining

1099
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 7: insight of the landscape and what possibly could, happen what

1100
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 7: could happen with the value is for players and so uh,

1101
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 7: yeah this has always been that forum for All, right

1102
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 7: there's one thing about being on the phone and, texic

1103
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 7: but actually sitting in front of people and things.

1104
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: Out you.

1105
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 4: Know one thing That i'm kind of curious how this

1106
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 4: plays out over the course of the week is the

1107
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 4: quarterbacks around the. League we just Saw seattle win A

1108
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 4: Super bowl With Sam, donald who was great in back

1109
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: to beck years but was on his what fourth fifth?

1110
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 4: Team bake got off to a quick start last year

1111
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 4: In tampa on his fourth. Team we Got, Mac we've

1112
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 4: GOT i, mean Is malik gonna get is he a

1113
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 4: thirty five to forty million? Guy like that type of,

1114
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 4: thing like is Mac jones going to become? Available then

1115
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 4: you Got kyler In tua and so all of that

1116
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 4: stuff is gonna get. Sordid kind of this. Week what's

1117
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 4: kind of your feel on on on that. Momentum you,

1118
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: know quarterbacks drive. Everything that's it's the end all be.

1119
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 4: All quarterbacks, drive drive the conversation every, day all day

1120
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 4: about what you're going to. Do and you, know for

1121
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 4: The Sam, Donald i've talked about this a, lot where

1122
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 4: in the draft process at free agent, process there's always

1123
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 4: those outliers that teams always, say, well we can do

1124
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 4: be the next, this Right, Sam sam forever will be

1125
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 4: talked about as we can do like, That oh, yeah

1126
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 4: we get the reclamation project and do. That he'll always

1127
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: be talked about, that which gives a team new, hope

1128
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 4: whereas before it was what we got to have the

1129
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: first pick in the, draft or we got it a

1130
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 4: big h you, know now it'll be that avenue where

1131
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 4: teams think that they can build their team off of,

1132
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: that AND i think that's the wrong. APPROACH i think

1133
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 4: teams really have to build how where they are as an.

1134
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 4: Organization and because With seattle it's okay they did that

1135
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 4: With Sam, darnold but now go crush every single personnel

1136
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 4: decision you made for three years in a row where

1137
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: you drafted Ten All pro players and you Signed Pro bowl,

1138
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 4: players and you know in free agency you crush that

1139
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 4: and then you've made the trades for guys that absolutely

1140
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 4: were a superstar playmakers for you as. Well so that's

1141
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 4: the blueprint you need to be following With, seattle not

1142
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 4: can we get a guy that's on his Fifteen, sure

1143
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 4: he's our.

1144
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 3: Guy when you look at this quarterback landscape right, Now Kirk,

1145
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 3: cousins we heard yesterday he'll be released and played pretty

1146
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 3: well honestly at the end of last, season won the

1147
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: last four games In. Atlanta how do you kind of

1148
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 3: see maybe those things shaking, out and then what is

1149
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 3: the market for a guy Like? Kyler what's the market

1150
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 3: for a guy Like. Tua well that's.

1151
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 7: The thing where the landscape the quarterbacktually talked about who's

1152
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 7: got the? Talent you Know kyler With Sam, darnold he

1153
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 7: got picked third for a, reason for a. Reason it

1154
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 7: wasn't you, know not no disparaging the Mac. Jones but

1155
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 7: when he got PICKED i was, Like, okay it's Mac,

1156
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 7: jones Whereas sam, was oh my. Goodness when you look

1157
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,479
Speaker 7: At kyler AND i know he's been you, know beat

1158
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 7: up and all, that so at least you see like

1159
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 7: he did it you, know, like we know that's in, There,

1160
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 7: now what's the other stuff that we got to get

1161
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 7: out Of kyler to make sure that he plays consistently

1162
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 7: at a high. Level so as opposed to other QUARTERBACKS

1163
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 7: i want to, throw you, know but well it's really

1164
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 7: not there to bring up that. Talent you have to

1165
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 7: have that foundation of talent to say we're going to maximize.

1166
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 3: It you.

1167
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 7: Know so With Kirk, cousins you, know you sign him

1168
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 7: to get you, through but you're really not saying we're

1169
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 7: going into a season And Kirk cousins is going to

1170
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 7: go lead us to the Super. Bowl So Malik willis

1171
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 7: to me is super interesting just because you saw the

1172
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 7: marked improvement that he. Had now it's a small sample,

1173
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 7: size so you're betting on all, Right, well the small

1174
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 7: sample size that he showed us when he had to

1175
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 7: start and when he had to play was really. Exciting

1176
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 7: now can we build on.

1177
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 3: THAT i do think to the point that you were

1178
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 3: making earlier about the copycat and donald part of, it

1179
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 3: you need to make sure you have people with. Talent

1180
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: BUT i think there's a part of it where you're

1181
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: gonna see teams look around the league and say take

1182
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 3: Back jones for, Example, oh you went to quarterback finishing

1183
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 3: school With Kyle shanahan and this is the best you.

1184
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: Look Sam, donald by the, way before we went To,

1185
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 3: minnesota where was he he was With Kyle, malik now

1186
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: With Matt, lafleur who clearly has been very good with.

1187
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks you could take the guys that were In, Minnesota kevin.

1188
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 3: O'Connell there's kind of and Then bake was with McVeigh

1189
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: and that kind of what he. Thought there's almost a

1190
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: group of coaches THAT i think are going to raise

1191
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 3: the value of the people that come spend time there

1192
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: because you're, saying, Oh i've seen this people get better

1193
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: from being. HERE i want. That.

1194
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 7: Yeah just like, players you have your all, pros you

1195
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 7: got your. Middle the coaches are the. Same like there's

1196
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 7: very few franchise quarterback coaches you know that can get it.

1197
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 7: Out all coaches aren't made the. Same and this guy

1198
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 7: could go to this, system that's system that coach and

1199
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 7: not be. Better and it goes to this. Guy yet

1200
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 7: he gets something out of, him and that's been. Proven

1201
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 7: it's not you, know the McVeigh. Tree those McVeigh guys

1202
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 7: a lot gets talked about it but the results have been.

1203
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 7: There Liam cullen goes down To jacksonville year, One Trevor

1204
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 7: lawrence looks like a different guy because whatever magic he

1205
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 7: sprinkled into that, guy it changed. Him so you, know

1206
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 7: that's really what you're looking for in a coach is

1207
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 7: who can make guys better and transform these.

1208
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: Guys what's interesting is even Even Daniel, jones who looked

1209
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 3: great to start this, season but he said going To

1210
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 3: minnesota and be With kevin O'Connell and seeing what they

1211
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 3: did in their quarterback, room the way they prepared completely

1212
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: changed his. Career to the flip side of, that, though

1213
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: is when you have somebody who's with HIM jj McCarthy

1214
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 3: and you're, saying.

1215
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 7: You're, here, yeah what's going, on what's, happening.

1216
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: But we're not seeing what we want to. See that

1217
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: probably a little bit red, flaggish, yes for.

1218
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 7: Sure and he always had to balance that. Out and

1219
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 7: you KNOW gm has already been gone from you, know

1220
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 7: from From minnesota because of that. Decision and you know

1221
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 7: who's a part of, that, Well kevin was a part

1222
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 7: of that, Too, like, okay you have to bear a

1223
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 7: little bit of this responsibility. Too this next year, here

1224
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 7: this is maker where we traded up to go get this.

1225
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 7: Guy we're not seeing the results just, Yet so how

1226
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 7: much are you actually getting out of?

1227
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: Him is there a domino that you think in that

1228
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: world will have to fall?

1229
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 3: First? Like is It?

1230
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 4: Maleik is it Like arizona With? Kyler i'm so intrigued by,

1231
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 4: That like what the market? Is how they get out of?

1232
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: It?

1233
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: WHERE i? Mean is it a? Cut is? It do

1234
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 3: they find a trade? Partner? Like is there a?

1235
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 4: Domino you heard Yesterday Omar khan With pittsburgh saying that

1236
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 4: it'll be sooner rather than later On rogers because all

1237
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 4: of a sudden if he doesn't come, back is there

1238
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 4: going to be another player paratrooping into?

1239
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 3: There do they actually Like Will howard and want to

1240
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: roll that? Way?

1241
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 7: Yeah you know The melik decision that's cutting drives a.

1242
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 7: FREEZING i guess go bits, easy go get. It The

1243
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 7: coder one is more complicated because he's still. Undercontrenty you

1244
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 7: got to work out that the particulars of all of.

1245
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 7: That so you, know on one, aspect It's malik what

1246
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 7: the clean cut and? Drive And kyler to me opens

1247
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 7: it all up WHERE i think that's going to be,

1248
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 7: fascinating Where AS i, mentioned there's gotta be something. There you,

1249
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 7: know you know he's, talented so hiss to me is

1250
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 7: more intriguing as opposed to to his skill. Set his

1251
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 7: skill set he's not going to. Change you, know we

1252
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 7: talk about the older, guys they're not. Changing where those

1253
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 7: two are the wild cards for?

1254
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: Me what do we learn From and this kind of

1255
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: ties back Into Sam, Darnold but what do we learn

1256
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: about you, Know Justin, Jefferson Jackson smith And jigba how

1257
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 3: important it is for a quarterback to have that guy

1258
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 3: in for an. Offense it doesn't always have to be a, receiver,

1259
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 3: Right it can Be it could BE i, guess a

1260
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 3: superstar running. Back it could be a great pass catching tight.

1261
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: End but that you've got to have that one weapon

1262
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: that teams have the game plan for.

1263
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 7: It, yeah especially you know nowadays as good as these defenses,

1264
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 7: are as, like, Okay i'm not going to put a

1265
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 7: ten play drive, together BUT i know on a big

1266
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 7: third down that justin go get open and talk about

1267
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 7: Jack Jackson smith and Jig but you, know up until

1268
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 7: The Super bowl where they.

1269
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: Just like play like you're not going to beat.

1270
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 7: Us but up until that. Point you know teams are game.

1271
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 7: Planning it's, like we don't, Care we're going to bring

1272
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 7: you out the backfield and run this little, wheel, Right

1273
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 7: we're going to do. This, yeah and that just changes

1274
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 7: the mindset number one of how you got a game

1275
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 7: plan when one play could break your back but by a,

1276
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 7: receiver and then two if you do try to take him,

1277
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 7: out it opens up everything else for your offense because

1278
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 7: you're allocating so much resources to stop. Them it's just

1279
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 7: like a pass rusher Or Miles Garrett, aaron, like all,

1280
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 7: right three guys go block. In, well all, right now

1281
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 7: all these other guys are going to. Feat so if

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01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 7: they have that effect of changing the dimensions of how

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01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 7: you gain plan and then how your offense can function

1284
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 7: on let's get this big explosive plays or these plays

1285
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 7: when we need these gotta have it, plays just go

1286
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 7: over there and throw it to.

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01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 3: Them that's why we want one at six or we

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01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 3: want one you have a weed because, yeah that all

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01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 3: of a supe your, Quarterback, yeah your quarterback out mark

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Speaker 3: this a pleasure any, TIME yea greatly appreciate.

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Speaker 2: It all, right all right there you, go all? Right

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Speaker 2: coming up, next you want to should we need the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Selling we will get to that coming up.

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Speaker 4: Team so the game we're going to play is you

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01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 4: buying this room or are you selling this?

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01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: Room that's, right that's how we're gonna do.

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01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 5: THIS i like.

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01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: It so let's have a little. Fun do you want

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01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: administer or do you want me?

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01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 3: To and you can?

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01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: Participate gibb.

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01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 5: It i'm happy to. Administer let's do.

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01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: It let's do.

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01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 5: IT i like.

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01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 2: IT i like where your head's.

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01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 6: At let's.

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01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 5: See i'm going through all the paperwork.

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01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 6: Here.

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01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 4: So for, us while you're going through your, paperwork he

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01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 4: Has Deshaun, Watson Shador, Sanders Dylan, gabriel And Justin, fields

1330
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 4: and he writes there is talent and his mobility is

1331
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 4: undoubtedly a, weapon something that few aerre better at weaponizing

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01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 4: Than Munkin fields won't cost much at this, point and

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01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 4: as an added, bonus he's a belove figure In ohio

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01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 4: thanks to his time as A. Buckeye Justin fields browns.

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01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 5: The first time we've that's a new.

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01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 4: One i'd be fine with, it.

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01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 6: Thinking if The jets cut, him he it could be

1338
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 6: similar to A Russell wilson a couple of years ago

1339
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 6: with The. Steeler, okay you get him on the cheap

1340
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 6: Well fields.

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01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: He got the two years forty, million all two years forty.

1342
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 3: Million we wanted him thirty millions fully guaranteed as, signing

1343
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: so didn't we want?

1344
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 2: Him didn't you AND i talk about him last? Year

1345
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: we would kick the tires on.

1346
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 3: Him if they cut him as a Post june, first

1347
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 3: it would cost him thirteen million of dead and save

1348
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 3: them ten million in cap so not. Bad and then

1349
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 3: they'd have three, million three, million three million of dead

1350
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 3: the next three, tho which is, Fine so would save

1351
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: him sixteen million dollars over the next three years and

1352
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: cost Them actually would save him ten ten million dollars

1353
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 3: over the next four years and cost them in dead

1354
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 3: money thirteen three three three twenty two, million so not

1355
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: twelve million dollars to get out of his deal instead

1356
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: of paying him twenty three million and then nine, Million

1357
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: so not a bad. Deal they certainly could do. That

1358
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 3: there'd be absolutely no problem doing. THAT i THINK i

1359
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: would be obviously into, it but so WOULD i buy? It,

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01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 3: sure i'd buy. IT i Like Justin. FIELDS i think

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01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 3: that you Know Todd, bunkin it would be very adept

1362
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: that and What Travis Switz sweitz are? Here you have

1363
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 3: warhop you have the run game That lamar's whole run

1364
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 3: game is package would be. Here fields is a very good.

1365
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 3: RUNNER i think the reason THAT i would sell that

1366
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 3: room is not because Of Justin. Fields i'd be fine with.

1367
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 3: That but to, me we can't have another three quarterback. Competition,

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01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: no it's got to be Too so if you're bringing

1369
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 3: In Justin, fields somebody else has to.

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01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 4: Go, agreed, Yep, yeah that room doesn't. WORK i think

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01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 4: that would be A and.

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01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 3: To, me the start Is watson And. Sanders so if

1373
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 3: you brought In Justin, fields that means one Of watson

1374
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 3: Or sanders has got to.

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01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: Go, YEP i would agree too.

1376
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 6: Much so G man gives you guys a question regarding

1377
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 6: That browns, room and then we'll get to the. Rest

1378
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 6: Todd monkin is practically trademarked the quote getting the best

1379
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 6: out of the guys we have? Quota does that make

1380
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 6: it difficult to narrow down players the front office might

1381
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 6: want to sign in free agency or? Draft what sort

1382
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 6: of traits would you be looking for in? Players And

1383
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 6: i'm assuming he means by, Quarterback.

1384
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 3: Well he does like somebody who's got some, mobility AND

1385
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 3: i Think DeShawn certainly has, that AND i think that you,

1386
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 3: Know shador showed last year that he was more mobile

1387
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 3: and able to move around the. POCKET i don't think

1388
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 3: he demands that he has a quarterback who can operate

1389
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 3: in the run, game although it opens up a lot

1390
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 3: of things for. YOU i could see a scenario Where

1391
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 3: Justin fields was broad, here and again it would require

1392
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 3: a change in the. Room but that Like Justin fields

1393
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 3: was brought here to be a red zone quarterback because

1394
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 3: in the red zone his legs are, very very. Valuable

1395
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 3: go back to see what he did in his time At.

1396
01:06:55,400 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 3: PITTSBURGH i don't know that there's enough. There last, year

1397
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 3: after that hot start Against, pittsburgh it got pretty. Bad

1398
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 3: it was a bad. Situation so you can't hold that

1399
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 3: all against. Him but, yeah if you brought In Justin,

1400
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 3: field somebody else has to.

1401
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 4: Go if if you were to have told me that

1402
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 4: a year, ago at this, time before the, draft If

1403
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 4: Todd buncan was the head coach of The Cleveland browns

1404
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 4: And Justin fields were, AVAILABLE i would say match made in.

1405
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 4: Heaven go, yeah, go, yeah go get him in that room.

1406
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 2: And let's. Go let's see what he can get out

1407
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: of the.

1408
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 3: Kid but i'ming off that season with The. STEELERS i

1409
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: would totally agree with.

1410
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: You that's what we were talking. About so that like

1411
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: a year.

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01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 4: Ago but like as we stand now with all of these,

1413
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 4: quarterbacks that's a lot going on last.

1414
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: Year sixty three percent, completions twelve hundred and fifty nine,

1415
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 3: yards seven, touchdowns only one.

1416
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 4: Pick he's always a tricky one because statistically it's always

1417
01:07:58,680 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 4: better than you, think.

1418
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 3: Three three and four five point four yards of.

1419
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: Carry but people have the coaches have no patience for.

1420
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 3: Him what didn't he quarterback against? Us did he quarterback

1421
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 3: the game AGAINST us last? Year?

1422
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 2: YEAH i think he.

1423
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 3: Did, yeah he couldn't even and there wasn't a whole.

1424
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 3: Lot there wasn't a whole lot. THERE i think they

1425
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 3: completed And i'm not. KIDDING i think they completed one

1426
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 3: passed out pass the line of scrimmage in the entire.

1427
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: Game, YEAH i think that's.

1428
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 6: Fair, YES i believe we delivered that game to them

1429
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 6: on a.

1430
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 3: Platter he went six of eleven for fifty four.

1431
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 5: Yards that's.

1432
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 2: Right they beat.

1433
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 3: Us his air yards per attempt AGAINST us were two point. Six,

1434
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 3: yeah they beat. Us they had the back to back returning.

1435
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: Touchdowns oh, yeah, yeah, yeah fifty four yards passing for

1436
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: fields on six of. Eleven good, lord, yeah good. Lord

1437
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: m hm.

1438
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 5: Hmm yeah it was that.

1439
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 6: Bad, yeah, Okay sins reminded of the Fine rider breaks down.

1440
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,759
Speaker 6: These he's got twenty one quarterbacks that are already locked,

1441
01:08:53,800 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 6: in and he's. Right Bill's, Bengals, Commis, Seahawks, Giants, Lions, Chargers, Eagles, Ravens, Jags, Packs, Chiefs,

1442
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 6: Patriots Tampa, Bay, Broncos, Cowboys, Niners, Rams, Texans, titans And.

1443
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 6: Bears that's twenty. One, okay, safe but something to. Prove

1444
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 6: Tyler shuck With New, Orleans Bryce young With carolina to be,

1445
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 6: Determined atlanta And Michael Pennix. Junior that leaves eight teams

1446
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 6: open for. BUSINESS i disagree with. Him it should be.

1447
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 5: NINE i.

1448
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,879
Speaker 4: AGREE i agree with you. ONE i assume you're Referencing.

1449
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 4: ATLANTA i think they're that's for.

1450
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 6: Business, yeah, yes, yeah they should totally be open for.

1451
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 6: Business so are you buying or selling the following rooms

1452
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 6: we just? Talked we talked about The browns room for The,

1453
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 6: Cardinals Malik willis And Jacoby brissett.

1454
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 5: Buying or?

1455
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 4: Selling you, know all of this time we're Putting Malik

1456
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 4: willis In miami because Of, halfley because of the connection

1457
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 4: to the fact that he was. There, ye but there's

1458
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 4: also The Michaelafloor Matt laflor connection.

1459
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: Yep here at. Stakes so you're gonna have all the. Intel,

1460
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: like if you're A Malik, willis where would you rather?

1461
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 2: Be he's a free, AGENT.

1462
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 3: I, mean right, now you got a question between those.

1463
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 3: Two first of, All arizona is a great, place lift

1464
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 3: so Is.

1465
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: Miami i'd rather live In arizona Than, miami but for.

1466
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 3: Sure but you've got, McBride Marvin, Harrison Michael wilson as

1467
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 3: it stands, now as it stands, now potential that they,

1468
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 3: could they could even Draft Jeremiah. Love you could have

1469
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: a pretty well made offense to. Go miami is not

1470
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 3: nearly as. Set. Now you've got A chan and you've

1471
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 3: Got waddle and that's pretty much, it Right.

1472
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah in terms of like weapon, weapon, yeah SO

1473
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: i like.

1474
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 3: It and as you, mentioned, obviously the brother of the

1475
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 3: head coach that he just played for would have all

1476
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 3: the intel. THERE i would buy. That And brissette would

1477
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 3: be a great you, know veteran to be there with.

1478
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 3: HIM i would. BE i totally buy.

1479
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: That, yeah let me think that Fast Fast Tracks. Arizona, yep,

1480
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: YEAH i Buy i'd buy.

1481
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 6: That to The colts we go buying or selling the

1482
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 6: quarterback room Of Daniel jones And Tarad.

1483
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 3: TAYLOR i don't know where The Tarad taylor part of

1484
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 3: it comes.

1485
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 2: From where's he? Now was he was not The?

1486
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 3: Jets on The? Jets, yeah, yeah he started four games last.

1487
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 3: Year his career is really.

1488
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 4: Amazing i'll tell you something else ABOUT i. DON'T i

1489
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 4: don't think he's he's a lot of things he does.

1490
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 4: WELL i don't think he's great with young quarterbacks who?

1491
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 3: Toad.

1492
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, no we witnessed it and then.

1493
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 3: The league for fifteen years and played and started sixty

1494
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:40,839
Speaker 3: games in fifteen.

1495
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 5: Years, yeah how many different Teams.

1496
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 3: Baltimore, Buffalo Cleveland, Chargers Houston, Giants jets seven. IMPRESSIVE i

1497
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 3: don't see. WHY i don't see why he gets AND

1498
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: i don't see why he's the one In. Indy, NO

1499
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 3: i don't get.

1500
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: That i'd sell.

1501
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 5: It, YEAH i.

1502
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 3: DON'T i don't get. THAT i Here's Daniel.

1503
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 4: Jones i'm By Dale times is gonna be the court

1504
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 4: and Sign flacco to play there until Until Daniel jones

1505
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 4: is ready to.

1506
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 6: Go i'm going to say it again and continue to say.

1507
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 6: It i'm not Sure Daniel jones will be ready by

1508
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 6: the time this season starts from an achilles.

1509
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 4: TEAR I that's What i'm. Saying so Sign. Flacco he knows,

1510
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 4: you he knows the. Operation have him play for a

1511
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 4: month And Daniel jones comes back In.

1512
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 2: October That's.

1513
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 3: November why would a team, say, like let's just say

1514
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: you're the Torot why Would Torod taylor be the bridge?

1515
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 3: Quarterback the guy's five and ten in his last fifteen

1516
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 3: starts and that dates back to twenty twenty. One, YEAH

1517
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 3: i don't like his last ten. STARTS i mean sixteen,

1518
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 3: starts which would be not even a full season. Anymore

1519
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 3: he has he started sixteen games since twenty eighteen and

1520
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 3: he's six and. Ten, YEAH i don't GET i don't get.

1521
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 5: It, NO i don't.

1522
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: EITHER i don't.

1523
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 3: Either What i'm, curre what do you think are what

1524
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 3: do you think his career earnings eighty?

1525
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 2: One BECAUSE i think he got paid once pretty.

1526
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 3: Good he led The bills to the.

1527
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 4: Playoffs didn't he get like a free agent contract at

1528
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 4: one point with somebody that might be two, Wretch i'm

1529
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 4: gonna go fifty.

1530
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 2: Two fifty.

1531
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 3: Two fifty two's four? MILLION ei is not even four

1532
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 3: million a.

1533
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 4: Years, oh you're right the time he's been. Playing, yeah

1534
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 4: so my first guest is probably. Closer i'll sco with

1535
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 4: the original. Guests eighty two. Million final.

1536
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: Answer that's an incredible.

1537
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 3: Eighty two point, Six ladies and.

1538
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 4: Gentlemen the next levels, next we'll SEE i have a great, weekend.

1539
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 2: EVERYBODY i think IT'S Espn, Radio but we'll see on

1540
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: down the. Road we'll see you on, Market we'll see.

1541
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 3: Roads incredible eighty two. Six nailed it all, right come,

1542
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 3: on stick with the. Gut his biggest contract that he

1543
01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 3: ever was paid was sixteen million in one. Season. Wow

1544
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 3: can you name the team that paid him sixteen million?

1545
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 4: DOLLARS i would bet it was the team whoever was

1546
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 4: after The.

1547
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 3: Bills that would be The Cleveland browns paid him sixteen

1548
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 3: in twenty, eighteen in.

1549
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 2: The year we Drafted.

1550
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 3: Bake that's. Right, ay, yeah, yeay.

1551
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 5: Nice.

1552
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 3: Guy would you would you be?

1553
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 2: INTERESTED i got here In, august SO i. Didn't would you.

1554
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: Be interested to know that after his jury made sixteen

1555
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 3: million dollars with The browns in twenty. Eighteen he played

1556
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen with The, charters twenty twenty with The,

1557
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 3: charters in twenty twenty one with The, texans and over

1558
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 3: the course of those three, years he made you guessed

1559
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: it sixteen. Million good grief was That dors.

1560
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 2: Would be signing that.

1561
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 4: DEAL i wonder what the thinking, was like they really

1562
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 4: want A baker to sit for a. Year you wouldn't

1563
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 4: pay him sixteen million if.

1564
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 2: You didn't expect him to.

1565
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 4: Start he did, START i, understand but like they were

1566
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 4: they clearly was it a one year Sixteen like you're

1567
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 4: drafting that number one, overall but you're not going To

1568
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 4: the plan must have been to not Play.

1569
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 3: Baker.

1570
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 5: Yeah hm.

1571
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 6: Uh To, miami we go buying or selling and they

1572
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 6: say that The dolphins they expect to draft A qb

1573
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,879
Speaker 6: to add to this, room but they have one quarterback.

1574
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:27,799
Speaker 6: Listed his name Is Mac. Jones buying or selling BEFORE

1575
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 6: i before you, Answer miami owns a ton of. Picks

1576
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 6: second round.

1577
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 3: Pick forty three. Three they have to give up forty three, three.

1578
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 6: Third round, picks a fourth round, pick and all their

1579
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 6: picks next.

1580
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 3: Year they'd have to give up forty three or two

1581
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 3: threes as my guess to get Mac.

1582
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 4: Jones IF i Were, MIAMI i would sell this BECAUSE

1583
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 4: i Think miami kind of needs a, reset SO i

1584
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't want to give. UP i Think ma's a little

1585
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 4: older than we when we think. TOO i could be,

1586
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 4: wrong but my hunches he's like twenty, seven twenty years twenty, Seven, okay.

1587
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 2: So i'm on it. Today, Man oh, yeah we're just

1588
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 2: like ropes of The Good Ear. Blimp Now i'm selling.

1589
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 2: THIS i would sell. THIS i think that's going to

1590
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: be too rich to.

1591
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 4: Ask And i'm a little too skeptical that some of

1592
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 4: the magic Was.

1593
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 3: Kyle it'd be hard not to be skeptical of. It

1594
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 3: SO i really completion, percentage career high success, rate career high,

1595
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 3: rating career HIGH. Qbr in the year before In, jacksonville

1596
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 3: he was not.

1597
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 4: Good AND i remember. YOU i remember talking to. You

1598
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 4: if it was In New. ENGLAND i can't remember where it,

1599
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 4: was but you're, LIKE i don't understand this at.

1600
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 3: All it was when he was In New.

1601
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 6: England all, right To atlanta we Go Michael Pennix junior

1602
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 6: and to A.

1603
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 3: TEGLAVIOLA i COULD i could see this both, lefties so

1604
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 3: you'd be able to kind of keep the scheme there high,

1605
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 3: percentage knows where to go with the, football has real

1606
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 3: weapons there With, bijon he, could he'd Run kevin's. Offense,

1607
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 3: yeah he would very. Well SO I i definitely can see.

1608
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 3: THAT i THAT i like.

1609
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: IT i like.

1610
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 4: It, Dome so the arm strength isn't as big of a, Deal, yep, yeah,

1611
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 4: YEP i could see.

1612
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 3: IT i could see that for.

1613
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 6: Sure To New york we go buying or selling their

1614
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 6: quarterback prediction room Of Kyler, Murray Andy, dalton And Drew.

1615
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 2: Aller no sell sells but they have No, no they're.

1616
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 5: Not why would make any?

1617
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 4: Sense this makes no, Sense like why would The. Jets

1618
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 4: The jets have five first round picks in the next two.

1619
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 4: Years they need to draft accompanying players this year and

1620
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 4: they need to go one in seventeen or one in

1621
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 4: sixteen so that they're drafting at the top of next year's.

1622
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 4: Draft that's what they need to. Do like there's you

1623
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 4: don't Want kyler and somehow go five and. Twelve no,

1624
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 4: way no, CHANCE i sell sell sell as big as can.

1625
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 5: BE i, Agree, YEAH i.

1626
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 3: Agree Kyler murray to me is going to go play

1627
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 3: for The vikings or The falcons, maybe or you could

1628
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 3: make talk them Into, miami because It's miami To.

1629
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 6: Vegas we go their quarterback room. Prediction Fernando mendoza And Geno.

1630
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 6: Smith no, way they, Say i'm not as convinced that

1631
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 6: The raiders are gonna Release. Smith they don't need the cap.

1632
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 6: Space No sell, sell.

1633
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 2: He'd Undermine mendoza can't have, it can't have.

1634
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 5: It To pitt's.

1635
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 3: Puke, yeah AND i think they're wrong to not Have

1636
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 3: Geno smith starting. Somewhere, YEAH i would. Agree, again that's

1637
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 3: one of those things that the combine wasn't even really

1638
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: on our. Radar and every Now Geno SMITH a lot

1639
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 3: of love For. Gino.

1640
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 6: Uh The pukers Have Aaron rodgers And Garrett, nussmyer didn't?

1641
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 5: They who?

1642
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: Else howard And?

1643
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 4: Mate, NO i, sell this doesn't make any. Sense No Sell.

1644
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 4: Sell rogers could be, there But myer's not gonna be.

1645
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 3: There howard will be.

1646
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 2: There howard will be.

1647
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 3: THERE i could see. HIM i could See, Rogers nesmyer And.

1648
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 3: HOWARD i could see that two young bites at The.

1649
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 6: Apple The steelers need to decide If Will howard is

1650
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 6: good enough to develop as his future replacement or if

1651
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 6: there's a rookie out there worth bringing in to learn

1652
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 6: behind one of the best qbs IN nfl.

1653
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 4: History, well first of, all If rogers comes, back he

1654
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 4: was so if effusive in his praise of the quarterback

1655
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 4: room he had last year WITH i mean he went

1656
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 4: nuts On howard just stand mcapee and then talk glowingly

1657
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 4: about that.

1658
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: ROOM i don't think that he was A Mason rudolph, Was,

1659
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: yeah and was It Skuyler.

1660
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 3: THOMPSON i think he might have been there.

1661
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 5: Too.

1662
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, No so so this is.

1663
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:43,799
Speaker 6: Silly final one guys To, MINNESOTA jj, McCarthy Joe, flacco

1664
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 6: And anthony richardson buying or selling.

1665
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 2: Selling that's.

1666
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 4: Silly if O'Connell greenlit, that then he's on the chopping

1667
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 4: block next.

1668
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 3: Year, YEAH i think. HE'S i think he's got to live,

1669
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 3: there which is WHY i, think which is.

1670
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: Crazy they just went fourteen and three last. Year cucy got,

1671
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: FIRED i know because of the.

1672
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 3: Quarterback but so those were all O'Connell's, decisions, supposedly of

1673
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 3: all the reporting that came in, after those were all O'Connell's.

1674
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 4: Decisions, well if that's the, case then if those are O'Connell's.

1675
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 4: Decisions then he's not gonna roll with McCarthy this.

1676
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 3: Year he's not gonna roll with McCarthy And. Richards he's

1677
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 3: gonna want to bring In rogers Or Geno smith or

1678
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 3: of Course.

1679
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 4: Kyler, yeah and you know who's gonna you know who

1680
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 4: would start in that. Scenario Joe flacco. Yep and he'd

1681
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,839
Speaker 4: throw for four hundred, yards two touchdowns and two. PICKS

1682
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 4: i mean that's WHAT i would. Go he'd had the

1683
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 4: time of his life thrown To Justin, Jefferson Jordan. Edison, Yes,

1684
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 4: YEAH i don't know about our boys. Act he's all

1685
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 4: over the place on that. One, yeah it's a little,

1686
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 4: bit a little, bit a little. While, yeah all, right

1687
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,400
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1695
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:25,200
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1696
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 4: Social police say a coach on the Cal State bakersfield

1697
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 4: men's basketball team was moonlighting as a camp across four.

1698
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:36,439
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1699
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,000
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1700
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:38,880
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1701
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,920
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01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,679
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1703
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,800
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1704
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 4: basketball team was moonlighting as a, pimp and.

1705
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,200
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1706
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Speaker 3: something and had four.

1707
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: Kids was that, true, THOUGH i think. SO i don't

1708
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: know that that.

1709
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 3: Agent you have no.

1710
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: IDEA i have no. IDEA i don't. Know timed open

1711
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 2: to the Mailbig, Hello.

1712
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 6: GIBBE i got AN espn notification.

1713
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 2: About the Pimp about? That, yeah it literally.

1714
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 5: WAS i was, like excuse, me how do you have a?

1715
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 2: Notification how do you have time to run a pimp

1716
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: ring around four?

1717
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 3: States?

1718
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: Well being an assistant coach in college? Basketball how can?

1719
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 5: YOU i don't have an answer for.

1720
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: You how do people have time for this? CHAOS i don't?

1721
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 6: Know, JEEZ i HAVE i have developing news AND i

1722
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 6: need to figure out how. WELL i can confirm it

1723
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 6: because our good Friend Mary Kay cabot has tweeted, it

1724
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 6: and numerous other reporters are now tweeting. It The Orlando

1725
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 6: ledbetter is siding off on a twenty year career covering The.

1726
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 5: Falcons what, oh.

1727
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 7: NO.

1728
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 3: I.

1729
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 6: DON'T i don't have any other. Details it makes me.

1730
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 4: Happy we got an embrace from him last week at the.

1731
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 4: Combine was that the first TIME i met him in.

1732
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 4: PERSON i never met him in. Person we have him

1733
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 4: on all the, time we love. Him, yeah but but

1734
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 4: so we got an.

1735
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 2: That was cool to see him in.

1736
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 3: Person based on this is from The La, times is

1737
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 3: that it was about.

1738
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 4: Behavioral issues THE usc. Thing, yes, YEAH I i didn't

1739
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 4: know if that was. ALL i knew that there were some,

1740
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 4: behaviors so BUT i didn't know if that if that

1741
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 4: because then there was that tweet that had all that

1742
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 4: nobody followed up on.

1743
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 3: It.

1744
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay so someone tweeted at De, orlando congrats on your.

1745
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 6: Retirement he, Said i'm not retiring like Coach. PRIME i

1746
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 6: don't plan to be hard to. Find that's, great that's

1747
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 6: good he's still. Around, yeah. OKAY i had a moment

1748
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 6: WHERE i was like wait what you can't.

1749
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 3: Get rid of an institution like Do? Orlando absolutely, not

1750
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 3: that is.

1751
01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 6: Forbidden, No satch tweets at the show talk about the thirty.

1752
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 2: Visits we're not. Allowed we. Can't, Hey, sach.

1753
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:11,440
Speaker 6: It's can't do, it can't do, it fair child. Propaganda

1754
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 6: who were to win in a fight Between Bo bishop

1755
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 6: And nathan's girl.

1756
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 4: Z we're not fighting different completely different weight. Classes you're

1757
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 4: in peak physical condition at the. Moment we're not. Fighting,

1758
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 4: no it's not.

1759
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 3: So it's not even but if it had it would

1760
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 3: it wouldn't go. WELL i won't even allow my mind to.

1761
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 3: Contemplate thanks. YOU i would LAY i would lay down

1762
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 3: like the finger poke Of doom When Kevin nash took

1763
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 3: one finger poke to the chest From Hole cogan and

1764
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: laid on his back And hogan stepped on him one

1765
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 3: two three and won the. Title it's WHEN wcw was

1766
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 3: really in a free.

1767
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 2: FALL i could picture you Like Sean. Michael he's to to,

1768
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 2: Flare i'm, sorry and THEN i love you and then,

1769
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 2: no no.

1770
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 3: Way we would do some plaything And i'd put you

1771
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,440
Speaker 3: in like a a camel, clutch.

1772
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 4: Camel, clutch and then that's it would that be your finishing.

1773
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 4: Move that was the rock, bottom the rock, bottom the

1774
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 4: rock rock.

1775
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 2: Bottom C L fan In.

1776
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 6: Chicago this mailbag question Was birth from The Burners.

1777
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 3: Loins, fantastic well.

1778
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 2: Done what is the.

1779
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 6: Single greatest thing or person you met or had been

1780
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 6: afforded from your professions in sports? MEDIA i mean number,

1781
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 6: two working With gibbe is an obvious life changing number.

1782
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 3: One i'd say working with the two of, You, yeah

1783
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 3: this is a. Blast celebrity. Standpoints Al michaels was VERY

1784
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: i mean there's so. Many Al michael's a very, Cool

1785
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 3: Stone coltles, Cool snoop Was snoop was, Incredible like that was.

1786
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 4: Such a fun and he was so much. Fun al

1787
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 4: would have stayed and talked with us for an. HOUR

1788
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 4: i think, truly no, right If collins were, DID i

1789
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,440
Speaker 4: think he would have stayed and just shot.

1790
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 3: It with answer was.

1791
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 2: Great, yeah there's a.

1792
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 4: Lot of great, ones a lot of great athletes through the.

1793
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 4: YEARS i Interviewed Muhammad ali.

1794
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 6: Once can you talk about the picture you posted? Yesterday

1795
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 6: was it? Yesterday with you And?

1796
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 4: God SO i used to HOST i used to host

1797
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 4: this create this show Called Walda Wall sports In columbus

1798
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 4: on THE cbs, affiliate and it.

1799
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 3: Was it worked on that. Together we.

1800
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 4: Did, yeah that's, right that's the first time BECAUSE i

1801
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 4: used toss to stuff that you would you would do,

1802
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 4: here and that you were like Our browns. Thing so,

1803
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 4: anyway so we do the show and they would have

1804
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 4: like a live studio, audience and then they would have

1805
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 4: like a food, sponsor so you'd have a live audience

1806
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 4: and then you'd have, food so people eating food in

1807
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 4: front of, you and then you would do a show

1808
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 4: kind of behind them and around.

1809
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: Them SO i can look it, UP i posted On.

1810
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 4: Twitter SO i got this on one of the other

1811
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 4: social apps had seventeen years ago today this.

1812
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: Happened SO i was hosting.

1813
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 4: The show With don To berry's a Legendary columbus sports media,

1814
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 4: personality and on this particular, show the guests Were Pete

1815
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 4: weber OF, Pba i'm, him.

1816
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:02,480
Speaker 3: The Brown schedule release, Fame, yes and That Rampage.

1817
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 2: Jacks And Rampage.

1818
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 4: Jackson so just think about the possibility of it was

1819
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 4: seventeen years, ago like the seventeen years ago today in

1820
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 4: what world In columbus o high like what led To

1821
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 4: Pete weber And Rampage jackson being on the same show In, Columbus.

1822
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 2: Ohio it's Much do we have the?

1823
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 3: ANSWER i.

1824
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 2: Do it was.

1825
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 4: This week down there is they used to have A

1826
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 4: pba stop and The, arnold and so in those, days

1827
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 4: The arnold always had A ufc event tied to, it.

1828
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 4: Yep and so he came in to promote THE ufc,

1829
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 4: event and Then Pete webber came in to promote THE Pba.

1830
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 3: Rampage jackson all on one show in his.

1831
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: Tenure this was the height Of Rampage. Jackson he was

1832
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 2: really Really oh, yeah he's.

1833
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 4: Great he was a really fun, interview and he had

1834
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 4: no idea Who Pete weber, was which is kind of.

1835
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 4: Interesting pete knew who he. Was, yeah, yeah And pete

1836
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 4: was really fun.

1837
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 3: Too he was.

1838
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 6: Fun now at first look in that, PICTURE i knew

1839
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 6: it wasn't But i'm, like it could Be Dante. Whitner

1840
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 6: oh yeah at first.

1841
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 4: Look, yeah that was like the like the height of

1842
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 4: The affliction shirts and all that.

1843
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 2: Stuff that's all that was going. On, Sure, yeah that

1844
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: show was.

1845
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 4: Crazy like there was times WHEN i remember hosting that

1846
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 4: show once With Buster. Douglas we had one show once

1847
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 4: Because Pete webber would come in every. Year so it

1848
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 4: Was Pete, Weber Buster douglas and Like laureniis And freeman

1849
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 4: all on one. Show and they were Current buckeye linebackers

1850
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 4: at that, time and it was all on one. Show i'm,

1851
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 4: like how do We we only had like eighteen minutes of?

1852
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 4: Content how the hell did we even give anybody enough

1853
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 4: time to?

1854
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 5: Talk but you? Did, yeah we did. It, yeah we did.

1855
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 6: It from our YouTube Chat Stony wand what are your

1856
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 6: thoughts On Chris Brasel and would you entertain taking him

1857
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,839
Speaker 6: at twenty? Four we're assuming we don't address wide receiver

1858
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 6: at pick? Six not sure he makes it to thirty?

1859
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 6: Nine is that the wide receiver From? TENNESSEE i think it.

1860
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 4: IS i don't think we talked about him at. All,

1861
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 4: NO i don't Think i've ever even heard that. Name

1862
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 4: so he started it two lane them was At tennessee

1863
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:24,600
Speaker 4: last year sixty two for onenty seventeen.

1864
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 3: Ran a four three. Seven so he's got signed speed

1865
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 3: pulling Up Lance's airlines a capsule on, HIM i don't.

1866
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 3: Think so he's tall and he can run you like.

1867
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 3: That Lance airlines SAID nfl Comp Christian, watson which is

1868
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 3: somebody that The browns certainly were into a couple of years.

1869
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 3: Ago two high, shells zone heavy looks can shrink a

1870
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 3: snap to snap, impact but the quick strike potential is.

1871
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 3: Real more competent root runner than most field schutcher. Types

1872
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 3: it needs to become more physical and contested targets. Underneath

1873
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 3: he's big and he can. RUN i, MEAN i like

1874
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 3: PEOPLE i don't.

1875
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 4: HAVE i can't for me to comment on him BECAUSE i.

1876
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 4: CAN i didn't Watch tennessee play enough last year to

1877
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 4: know he's.

1878
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 3: Got a pretty good grade from zero.

1879
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 2: LINE i.

1880
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 3: Woonder lets, see lets see if they've updated the draft,

1881
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 3: tracker if they've updated to this year's draft, yet if

1882
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 3: we can like sort all the receivers and see where

1883
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 3: like zero line has him amongst his. Receivers bear with.

1884
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 3: Me here we'll look at here's it, ready top top

1885
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 3: wide receivers in the. Draft here we've got this is very,

1886
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 3: good very, good very. Exciting, yep very. Exciting number One teed,

1887
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 3: McMillan number two A Mecca, Abuka Travis, Hunter. Luthor. No

1888
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 3: still last, year.

1889
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 6: Still isn't, updated perfect? Ideal, No, no, GENTLEMEN i will

1890
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 6: get to the rest of these. Tomorrow, YEAH i appreciate

1891
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 6: everybody reaching. Out we will get the rest of you.

1892
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 4: Tomorrow Wiseman french tip or steak and, Cheese french dip

1893
01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 4: And french dip should be a staple on every which

1894
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 4: menu that there. Is it's got EVERYTHING i, want everything you.

1895
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 4: Need it's been a long time Since i've had. One,

1896
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 4: yeah give me a shaved beef.

1897
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 5: Though.

1898
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay all, right there you. Go we'll be back

1899
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 4: tomorrow for more. FUN Espn radio is come up. Next

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01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:17,880
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