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Speaker 1: your name?

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Speaker 2: My name's Jack.

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Speaker 1: Jack. Are you calling me for I see you have

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Speaker 1: a weird area code or I guess weird for me.

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Speaker 1: But what are you from Australia.

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Speaker 2: I'm calling from just off the coast of Nikonos in Greece.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the Australian phone number.

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Speaker 1: Oh what are you doing in Miconos.

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Speaker 2: I'm on a Virgin Voyagers ship. I'm a musician, so

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Speaker 2: I'm like a guest artist on the ship right now.

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Speaker 2: This is crazy. This is the first time I've tried

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Speaker 2: to call, so my Telco in Australia is going to

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Speaker 2: read me for this, but it's totally worth it.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy for me too. I've never talked to

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Speaker 1: an Australian man working as the entertainment on a cruise

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Speaker 1: in Miconos.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty trippy. I'm sort of a year and a

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Speaker 2: bit into the gig and yeah, man, whenever I'm doing

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Speaker 2: something or Senega guitar or just feeling fucking anxious, I

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Speaker 2: put on your stuff and it's a it's the perfect

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Speaker 2: it's the perfect you know, put your brain in default

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Speaker 2: mode kind of kind of stuff, as well as being

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Speaker 2: really interesting. I was just listening to the the episode

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Speaker 2: with that girl who was stuck on the stuck on

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Speaker 2: the river in the houseboat. Yeah yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, nothing, nothing, nothing to calm your anxiety more

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Speaker 1: while you're on a boat than listening to a podcast

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Speaker 1: about a lady who is trapped on her boat.

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Speaker 2: A man, it's a I mean, it's a it's a big.

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Speaker 2: It's like a little floating city. It's and you know,

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Speaker 2: the cabin is pretty cool and got a little balcony

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Speaker 2: here and staring directly into the sun right now. It's

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's pretty nice. Can't can't complain at all.

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Speaker 1: How big is the Virgin Cruise? Like, how many people

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Speaker 1: are on this boat? How big is this boat?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I could well, if I wasn't using the apps

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Speaker 2: tell you exactly who and from where and all that

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Speaker 2: thousand sailors something like two thousand, four hundred Dish sailors,

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Speaker 2: then there's I think one thousand two, one thousand three

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Speaker 1: There's a thousand crew hold on one hundred to one thousand.

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Speaker 1: That's a large range right there.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I misspoke this something something like god, I

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Speaker 2: think it's like eight hundred to want twelve hundred, you know,

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Speaker 2: so like eight hundred to one thousand, two hundred crew

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Speaker 1: Men, eight hundred to twelve, eight hundred to twelve, one

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Speaker 1: hundred crew members. And that's so how many fucking people

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Speaker 1: must be on this boat for there to be that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Heaps is like there's at least two

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Speaker 2: thousand sailors. And yeah, there's there's like fifteen levels to

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Speaker 2: the ship as far as I'm aware, there's a sort

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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. That's where I'm not like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not simping for Virgin here like they you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously they pay me to be on board. It's a

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Speaker 2: great gig, but yeah, I'm not trying to be the

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Speaker 2: not trying to be the travel agent right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, man, I'm just asking how big the boat is.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to give a coupon code or anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, affiliate marketing. Well, the thousands feet long, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's not the biggest ship in the ocean, but it's

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Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy that they make that thing? How do

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Speaker 2: It trips me out as well, Like the fact that

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Speaker 2: Definitely? Airplanes flying, definitely. Yeah, that it freaks me out. Also,

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Speaker 2: There you go your wheelhouse, you know as the as

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Speaker 2: the comedy slash Therapy Get Go. But yeah, it's it's uh,

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Speaker 2: I mean take planes to be on the ship in

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Speaker 2: Virgin was my first first real like long format corporate gig.

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Speaker 2: And before that, I was like a gigging musician in Australia.

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Speaker 2: And before that I was traveling busking like street performing,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm pretty stoked.

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Speaker 1: That's so cool. Man. What do you what do you do?

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Speaker 1: What do you play?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I used my real name and everything. My

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Speaker 2: name is Jack Shepherd's. I won't go as far as

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Speaker 2: play acoustic and electric guitar and then beat box looping

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Speaker 1: Like like what like what Mark Rebier does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, actually very very similar, just with with instruments

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Speaker 2: quality of the sound rather than the performance. That's I mean,

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Speaker 2: this gig's kind of making me a better performer. But

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Speaker 2: exactly like Mark Rebbie reb Rebbie Rebbi, Rebelle rebe loop daddy.

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Speaker 1: So how long are you on this uh ship?

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Speaker 2: For another two days? So I've got my second show

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Speaker 2: see my lady in Paris for a day and then

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Speaker 2: I'm back to Australia for three weeks and I'll be

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Speaker 1: You have you have a lady in Paris waiting for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that makes me sound more like a

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Speaker 1: Shut up, shut up, jack, Jack. You are literally a

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Speaker 1: sailor who does You are fucking sailor and you are

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Speaker 1: doing things, so you actually you actually totally are a

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Speaker 1: What is the show? Are you like in a band

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Speaker 2: There are bands on board, so there's like a few

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Speaker 2: and then a few like giggy musicians doing the same

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Speaker 2: I might even I might live stream the one I

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Speaker 2: your stream finishes, I guess. And then yeah, people can

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they give us daily whippings to improve morale. No,

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Speaker 2: Like the guest artists, So I'm one of the guest

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Speaker 2: week to four weeks, so I've just done four weeks.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we can get off in every every port

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Speaker 2: as long as we're not doing a show. You know,

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Speaker 2: to play our shows, and other than that, we're we're

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Speaker 1: The ship and do you are you getting along well

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's always all sorts of all sorts of drama.

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Speaker 2: But I definitely wouldn't. I wouldn't there publicly, even if

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Speaker 2: the overlap in your listener basis is probably quite low.

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Speaker 2: I'd uh, just because it's a small group of people.

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Speaker 1: Can I well? Okay? But without without getting specific, without

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Speaker 1: getting specific, is it is? It is? The drama is

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Speaker 1: when when drama stirs up at sea? Is it about?

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Speaker 1: Is it like who's fucking who? Or is it like

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen any real drama about like performance kind

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Speaker 2: the dramas all the normal sort of ship who's fucking who?

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Speaker 2: And so and so is you know said or did this?

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Speaker 2: this group of people said, what, oh, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, gotderneath such a betch Can you believe it?

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Speaker 2: You know, just just the same sort of stuff you

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Speaker 2: of workplace. But yeah, it's you know, it's it's kind

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Speaker 2: of like, yeah, you make your own time. You know,

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Speaker 2: you could spend your entire.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you can spend your entire contract, you know, just

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Speaker 2: doing your shows, going to your room and eating and

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Speaker 2: getting off the ship. Or you could be social the

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Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, yeah, I've got I've got a couple. So

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Speaker 2: Watch another busker. You know, people are from all over

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Speaker 2: you know, actual market prices instead of like you know,

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00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: hips to market proces. And there's just all this you know,

434
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: awesome festival atmosphere. You know, you look across the lake

435
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: and you're seeing the snow covered Alps in another country,

436
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: but it's like a t shirt weather down on the ground,

437
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: and you know, there's like tug Burt's going past, and

438
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: they're like jets flying over and you know, so you

439
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: get these wonderful, wonderful experiences like that, and you can

440
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: you can turn and you know, a decently busy street

441
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: into you know, one hundred two hundred people all gathered

442
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 2: around watching something who would never otherwise like group together.

443
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: And that's like the beautiful thing about busking. You know,

444
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: you'll get just groups of people together kind of being

445
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: present in a way that you kind of never would

446
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: see otherwise. And also like that they they want to

447
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: be there because you know, if they want to leave,

448
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: they'll just live like there's nothing keeping them there. There's

449
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 2: no ticket, there's no expectation. So that's the kind of

450
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 2: beautiful part of it. And then the ugly pasts are like,

451
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: I've got I've got mates or acquaintances who have you know,

452
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: I've been assaulted a bunch, you know, on the street

453
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: and you know, both on a while performing while not

454
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: performing in France. Once I had my guitar stolen in Marseilles,

455
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: actually got it back immediately.

456
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 6: But.

457
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I've had people steal money out of my

458
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: case in front of me and flip me the bird

459
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: as they walk away, thinking that I'm not going to

460
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: chase after them. I've had just all sorts of fucking

461
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: rudeness and horrific ship I've got. I've got mates and

462
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: acquaintances who have one fellow I'll leave his name out

463
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: of it, but you know, some some men of the

464
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: streets in Ireland, shall we say, stole his amplifier, you know,

465
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: couldn't have been worth more than one hundred crewds or something.

466
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: And he later later on that evening, saw them, went

467
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 2: to confront them and they took his eye out.

468
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 4: You know.

469
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's real. Highers and love this kind

470
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: of thing. And I think there's a generation coming along

471
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: now who you know, see it on like TikTok or

472
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: YouTube or whatever and social media and go like this

473
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: is the this is the way forward. And I always

474
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: want to say, like you're asking a sick, sick way

475
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: to like trim the fat off your performance and make

476
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: you into a better performer. But it's also like a

477
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: word of warning. So I tend to tell people that

478
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: exactly of just like do it, but for the right

479
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: reasons and remember to get out of it, because there

480
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: are people in their fifties and sixties who are still

481
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: trying to be the best buster in the pitch.

482
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: And it's like, so what ends you know, hmm, you know,

483
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: I saw I had this thought. I don't know why

484
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: I'm turning it back to me, but my dad is like,

485
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: my dad is in is like, fuck, holds my dad.

486
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: He's like mid sixties, early sixties like that, but he's

487
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: he's his sixties, an older guy, and he's like he's

488
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: now he's just now learning how to play guitar, like

489
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: he's been learning how to play guitar for the past

490
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: like year or two. I think it's it's really cool.

491
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: I love it that he's like, you know, in the sixties,

492
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: but still learn how to do that shit. And anyway,

493
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: I was, I was at Union Square Park, one of

494
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: the New York parks, and I saw this like older

495
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: guy just like playing the the bagpipes or the saxophone.

496
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: I forget what instrument he's playing. Let's say it was

497
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: the bagpipes. And he's playing the bagpipes and he's just

498
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: kind of and then and people are walking by and

499
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: they're smiling, and uh, you know everything you were saying

500
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: the beautiful thing, Like it's so cool to have like

501
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: like a free thing happening in a public place where

502
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: folks just are living their life and they walk by

503
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: and they smile and it's cool. And I was, I

504
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: was watching this guy, and I was like thinking about

505
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: my dad, and I was like like, you know, and

506
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: I was At the time, I was also kind of

507
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: thinking about like, what the fuck is my what's my

508
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: life going to be like when I'm that age, And

509
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe I'll maybe I'll learn the bagpipes

510
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: when I'm sixty and I'll just be like this guy

511
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: at the park and I'll just do that and that's that.

512
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: That didn't say, I guess the fantasy of that in

513
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: my head. I was like, that didn't sound too bad

514
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: being being this guy at the park whatever. I mean,

515
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: if that guy was saying, if that guy turned to

516
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: me and he was like that was that was pretty good? Right,

517
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be playing fucking Madison Square Garden when I'm

518
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: in my nineties. I'd be like, I don't know about that.

519
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: But if you're like, just be being in that moment

520
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: is pretty cool, you know. It's a it's a nice

521
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: service to provide for society, to just play music out

522
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: in public. It's cool.

523
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: And just like maybe my I kind of got out

524
00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: of busking after some some very negative experiences that were uh,

525
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: well it's traumatic, and so I kind of made a

526
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: hard exit and it's probably like biased to me away

527
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: from it, you know. So it's like I immediately start talking

528
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: about the good of it and then just go, oh, yeah,

529
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: but the bad of it as well. But yeah, that

530
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: that thing. I mean, I still love it, and I

531
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: still do it sometimes not so much for money, and

532
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: I'm very lucky to have this gig, you know. It's

533
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: it's the more than I ever dreamed I would have

534
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: kind of thing. But yeah, the beauty of going and

535
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: playing for people in the street and those moments that

536
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: you do get, especially for younger musicians. I still I

537
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: still encourage anyone, you know, if you can get out

538
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: to a street where there's a bunch of people around

539
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: and you feel like it's safe to do so, I'd

540
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: seriously recommend it. It's just a beautiful thing, you know,

541
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: when people are all just gathered being present.

542
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: You know, are a lot of were there any turf wars?

543
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: Like did you ever have someone here's my spot? Yeah?

544
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's most of what you deal with when

545
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: you I call it professional busting. It might sound weird

546
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: to some people, but yeah, I was a professional usker,

547
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: and yeah, that's most of what you deal with. So

548
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: you have queue systems, which is where first in best

549
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: dressed you you get there first, and you either choose

550
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: your spot, or you get the next spot in line

551
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: that's available at the end of the queue, or you

552
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: have draw systems, which is like everyone rocks up at

553
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: a given time and draw straws or sticks with numbers

554
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: on them or something.

555
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: And this is all very This is like informal. Right,

556
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: so you could you could shiny eyed walk off, walk

557
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: up to Hyde Park and be like, I'm going to

558
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: play the saxophone right here. It's a public park, and

559
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, a bunch of clowns and

560
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: jugglers and the guitarists are like, hey, hey, we have

561
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: rules here, buddy.

562
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: Hey, buddy, this is a group of people who are

563
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: extremely likely to be sort of like a little bit

564
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: you know, anti government, if not anarchist. But there are

565
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: some fucking rules here.

566
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: But right, that's that's the funny thing. Due, that's the

567
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: funny thing is like, yeah, it is kind of like

568
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: a like a hippie like anti it is kind of

569
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: like an anarchist thing to just be like I'm gonna

570
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: just go to this public place and start a concert

571
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 1: and then slowly you start a little government around it.

572
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's

573
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: it's a funny thing, you know, or it's the phrase power

574
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: of boards a vacuum. So if there's no if there's

575
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: no sort of hierarchy systems, and people just going to

576
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: naturally make one. I found that to be true all

577
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: over the world, like everywhere a bust at least. You know,

578
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: I haven't been all over the world, but I've been

579
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: to a few few different countries. And yeah, it's like

580
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: you'll you'll have. It's something like ninety seven male, so

581
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: you'll have and we need more one in dusk. And

582
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: you know, so like any any creative women of any kind,

583
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: you know, to encourage you and find your local find

584
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: your local community of buskers and get amongst it and uh,

585
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: you know, put put the dick swinging, ego centric fuckers

586
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: in their place.

587
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, swing, swing some fucking labor around, dude. We need uh,

588
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: we need, we need, we need all kinds of people

589
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: swing and all kinds of stuff all over all over

590
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: the world. Well tell me this, tell me this, uh,

591
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: of all the places you've been, what's the best place

592
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: to busk? Like give me, like give me like a

593
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: place in a city, in a country or whatever. And

594
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: then the worst, Oh, by the way. Also, while you

595
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: think about that, I also just thought, I don't We're

596
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: too late in this conversation for me to say this.

597
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: But in case if anyone doesn't know, busking means to

598
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: like play music in public.

599
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, too late, It is.

600
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Late for me to say that. But I've used the

601
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: word busking in front of people for and they I

602
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: don't know if a lot of people knows what that means.

603
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: But anyway, sorry, go ahead.

604
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: Actually that reminded me of something else. If anyone's looking

605
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: to get into busking and you're wondering, like people don't

606
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: have cash, how am I going to collect tips? There's

607
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: a site called busk dot co b u s k

608
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: dot co h and they let you hook up I

609
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: think it's I think it's striped and PayPal to a

610
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: QR code that they'll also you know, do their design

611
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: for you and for phenomenal fee, like printed out on

612
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: phone board and send it to you so you have

613
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: signed it. So people can then scan a QR code

614
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: and tip you with like Apple paye and all that

615
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: kind of stuff.

616
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: But you just used venmo. You just write your Venmo

617
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: down on a piece of paper. Sorry, no, use your website,

618
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: never mind, never mind.

619
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Sorry, no, true, true, you guys have Venmo and cash

620
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: up in the US. Yeah, forget I've I've never busted

621
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 2: in the US.

622
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: Right right, I forgot it.

623
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: I tried, But yeah, I tried to play in Las Vegas,

624
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: which is the first place I went in the States once,

625
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: and it was like the first or second time I

626
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: went out in the street. You know, a private security

627
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: guard pulled a pistol on me, and I was like,

628
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: oh shit, I'm definitely in America.

629
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: God, yeah he pulled he pulled a pistol on you.

630
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you know, one of these private security

631
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: dudes for the for the casino there. I wouldn't say it

632
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: was casino, but like it didn't point it at me,

633
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: but pointed at you know, forty five degrees to the ground,

634
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: like I'm fucking serious, you have to move. And I

635
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: was like, yeers, fuck, Like I'm in Australia. You can

636
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: argue with a cop and they probably don't even have

637
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: a gun, at least in my experience. So yeah, it

638
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: was it was a bit of a culture shock, but yeah, yeah, yeah,

639
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: so it could be kind of crazy. So maybe Vegas

640
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 2: maybe not the best place to busk.

641
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: Or that's a good answer.

642
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: I do have a great night who makes his living

643
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: for the most part dusking there, And it kind of

644
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: depends on the act. And it's also like I'm not

645
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: an American, so I don't know that it's subtle culture

646
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: and how to how to hook people and how to

647
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: how to work on the street there and hustle. Right, Yeah,

648
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: that's a whole that's a whole other beast I haven't conquered.

649
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: I'll say this about Vegas is one time I was

650
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: walking down the uh. I was dressed up as the

651
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Gecko and I was walking down the strip and this

652
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: like twelve year old came up to me and he

653
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, I listened to your podcast. And

654
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: I was like, do you two fucking young listen to

655
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: my podcast? But whatever I took, I took. I took

656
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: a picture with him, and then and then his mom

657
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: runs up after him after, like his mom runs up

658
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: to me after he leaves, and he's like, hey, thank you,

659
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: and she tries to give me five dollars. So that's

660
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: the That's the best place I've ever busked.

661
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, you could fully you could fully take tips

662
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: and like you know those videos that go around of

663
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: like I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer, and

664
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: they give like advice on the street you could totally

665
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 2: put up like a tip bucket.

666
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: And wait, is that are there actually like busking lawyers.

667
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: I've seen I've seen on Instagram, so it's probably just

668
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 2: my algorithm. But and I say those, I've seen one

669
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: dude multiple times, so maybe it's just his sticks. But uh,

670
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: like like.

671
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: The Charlie Brown thing, except with lawyer, except with yeah,

672
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: law advice. Man, that's fucking crazy that somebody pulled a

673
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: gun on you for fucking just busking. That sucks.

674
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: Oh dude, that's not even the that's not even the

675
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: craziest time with with with guns. Mexico was fucking nuts

676
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: and had nothing to do with busking. I'll tell you

677
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: the story if you want to hear it. But I

678
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: haven't answered your question. I'm notoriously bad at answering.

679
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, I'm putting I'm putting a pin in Mexico.

680
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm and ask you about that afterwards. But yes, give me.

681
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 1: The best.

682
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: Best place is, hands down, Edinburgh Scotland Fringe Festival, which

683
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: is the month of August. If people are looking for

684
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: something to go and like go and do and they're

685
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: like the arts and ship. Then Edinburgh Fringe, like it's

686
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: a life changing thing. I went for the first time

687
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen and became one of the regular crowd.

688
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: In just on one pitch there where a lot of

689
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: maybe high impact musicians play, so basically musicians who have

690
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: big speakers. And then there are I think it's like

691
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: two hundred buskers of all different you know of sort

692
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: of the what i'd call the og disciplines. You know,

693
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: circle shows where it's like you know, comedy and juggling

694
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: or something dangerous or you know, there's even due two

695
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 2: set up tight ropes. There's a chip called Kate Mill,

696
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 2: a shout out who does like a Marionntoinette like full

697
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: on you know, mind act people, people on ten foot unicycles,

698
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: giraffe unicycles. And then I've seen some of the most

699
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: incredible stuff on the street there. I've seen you know,

700
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: the entire Royal Mile blocked off and a guy you know,

701
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: climbing up a drain pipe and into an apartment, you know,

702
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 2: with a thousands of people blocking off the street watching him.

703
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: And like just these these master entertainers who have been

704
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: doing it for you know, a couple of decades who

705
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 2: just really know how to make a show from nothing,

706
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: you know, and they'll you know, some duds have a

707
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: big a big box of kit and unicycle and all

708
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: sorts of stuff. Some dudes have you know, a micro headset,

709
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: microphone and a deca cards and can can do a

710
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: massive shows. Like you see, all sorts of incredible stuff.

711
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: And that's just the street. Like you've got you've got

712
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: stage shows, like all these big artists who you wouldn't

713
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: expect to see in a small club or whatever. We'll

714
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: be trying out new stuff. You've got comedy, theater, music, poetry,

715
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: street and historical pause. It's like it's a it's a

716
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: magic place.

717
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: So I have to ask, I do have to ask.

718
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: It's interesting you say it's the best one. Is it

719
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: not a little tricky to be busking during Edinburgh because

720
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: there's so much competition around you.

721
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: There is competition, and there is a whole thing with

722
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: a draw, and there is you know, drama all month

723
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: long and all that kind of stuff. I mean, if

724
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: it's if it's the first time, if you if you're

725
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: like you've never busked and you're going to be like,

726
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: as it's my first time, I want to go and

727
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: go and do this big festival. It might be a

728
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: bit a bit like no, it's just kind of water

729
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: up to your up to your chest instead of you know,

730
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: up to your ankles. But you know, it's it's just incredible,

731
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: Like I'd recommend anyone to go. And it's different formats,

732
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: so different sort of levels of performer will be given

733
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: different spots in different places. They have storage for a

734
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: really really reasonable fee that you can use all month long.

735
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: If you've got a lot of equipment, they've got security

736
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: to look after it, like they've got an ID system.

737
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: Like it's it's the only place in the world where

738
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: you'll go and be treated really really well as a busker.

739
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: You know, if you don't have a visa for the UK,

740
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 2: they will give you a letter that grants you access

741
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: to the festival to visa free. So it's like the

742
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: other busk is gonna hate me for advertising the festival

743
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: because you know there's a lot of that.

744
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean in the newcomers, it's the fucking

745
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: it's like one of the biggest friends. It's it's i

746
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: think the biggest fringe festival in the world. So it's

747
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't think you're I don't think it's exactly uh

748
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: gate capt.

749
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah now Jack, I mean yeah the worst place.

750
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I was gonna ask you that. Oh yeah,

751
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: uh I like I like this sentence. What went down

752
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: in Mexico? Jack?

753
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: So I got run into motorcycles in twenty twenty three

754
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: with my buddy. Shout out to David Morin music. He

755
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: is an unbelievable musician. But we were ripping through the

756
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: through the desert outside of s j D on the

757
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: West Peninsula there in Mexico on these little, these little

758
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: motorbikes that you were you really couldn't register in the

759
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: US or Australia. They were They're real rickety pieces of shit.

760
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: But we're going to this oasis for the day. It's

761
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: like apparently there's this this oasis out there where it's

762
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: like rock pools and swimming in the middle of this desert.

763
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: So we're ripping and we come around a corner, you know,

764
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: through mountains and deserts and all that, and there's all

765
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: of a sudden an oasis town. So we know where

766
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 2: and we're in the right spot, you know, lush, green

767
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: as fuck something out of a movie, and you know,

768
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: we're in Mexico. You can get green smokable stuff pretty easily.

769
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: So we ride to the top of our hill. It's

770
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: like a little outlook out post kind of thing that

771
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: looks down over the town and we stop, get off

772
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: our bikes. We're dressed in all black, you know, so

773
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: no one could really see, you know, who or what

774
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: we are. And we start rolling a jay and these

775
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: we see these like utes we call them in Australia,

776
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: so you'd call them like a like a truck, you know,

777
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: with the bench seats in the back, and military police

778
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: you know, sitting in the back, you know, decked head

779
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: to toe in gear and you know, guns and all

780
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: that for anyone who's wondering. Like in Australia, we don't

781
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: have a lot of guns, so I don't know my

782
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: way around them. So sorry, I can't describe this that accurately.

783
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 2: But we see them from up on this little outpost

784
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: and we think, oh, they're not coming up here for us,

785
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: and before we have any idea what's going on, they're

786
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: pulling up on us. So it's like five or six

787
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: dudes get out and you know, they're decked out like

788
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: you know, full on military, and they've got clips on

789
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: the chest and like semi automatic canons. Put the hands

790
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: on them. And my buddy Dave, he speaks a lot

791
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: more Spanish than I do at this point. I've only

792
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: been there a month or so, but we you know,

793
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 2: they come up to us and he kind of kind

794
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: of freeze us up, and I'm just like, well, I

795
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: don't have any other option than to say gaday or whatever.

796
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: I said. They must have been Allah, and everyone there,

797
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: like everyone in that town, didn't seem to matter how

798
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: old or young they were. They would greet you with

799
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 2: like a fist bump or a slap of the hands

800
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: and then a fist pump. So I just said gooday

801
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: or Ollah and held out my fist and the dude

802
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: kind of instinctively took his hand off the butt of

803
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: his weapon to like fist bump me. So then it

804
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: was like okay, like a little bit of the tension broken.

805
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: But what I didn't realize when I kind of did

806
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: this was that there was a guy standing right behind me,

807
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: and just as I do this, he just pokes me

808
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: in the back of the neck with his fucking cannon

809
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: and like, man, I've never gone so fucking cold in

810
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 2: my life, just like you know, figuratively needed me underwhere.

811
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: And yeah, the guy just kind of barked at us

812
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: to uh, you know, to show us shown passports, and

813
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: we both happened to have our passports on us, which

814
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: was fucking saving. Gross. But you know, those are military

815
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: police dudes who are out there looking for for like

816
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: cartel guys, right, you know, because that's the that's the

817
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: whole that's the whole thing that's going on underneath the

818
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: economy and community of the local township. So as soon

819
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 2: as he saw that, we were like, oh, these aren't

820
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: cartel birds. Who's face tats? And you know I'm white

821
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: as fuck, you know, so probably helped the kind of

822
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: behaved like, ah, we've we wanted to see some fucking

823
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: acting today. And I didn't speak Spanish enough, but I

824
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: could see from the body language, and you know, the

825
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: guy kicking the dirt like, oh, I wanted to beat

826
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 2: some dudes up, but yeah, and to make things worse,

827
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: it was like when they when they rolled up on us,

828
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: you know, we were he had my buddy had his

829
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: hat over my hands to stop the wind from blowing

830
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: away the weed. I was trying to roll. So they

831
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: just caught us red handed, like rolling a roll in

832
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: a j but they didn't really speak enough English to

833
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: say like that's it's not okay, or like a confiscating

834
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: or like you've got to pay us, or you know

835
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: whatever they were going to do. But yeah, man, that

836
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 2: was that was absolutely mental. But I basically just said

837
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: like Los Angeles, sorry, sir, you know, and put put

838
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: the weed in the roll into my pocket. He kind

839
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: of looked at me like you can't. You can't fucking

840
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: do that. And I was kind of thinking, like, well,

841
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: you don't speak enough English to tell me otherwise.

842
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: So we have a much English she speaks. He's got

843
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: a big fucking gun. He can kind of tell you

844
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: whatever he wants.

845
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was. I was not not exactly thinking

846
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: I was in a good situation at the time. But yeah,

847
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: once we showed them my passports and it was like

848
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: yeah and then and then man, we rolled onto this.

849
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: We did end up rolling the Jay later on in

850
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: the day and after we got to this little oasis

851
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: called Santiago and it was like one of the most

852
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: beautiful fucking places I've ever been. It was like five

853
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: bucks or something to spend the whole day in this

854
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: crazy like natural water park. Its fucking nice way to

855
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: relax after that intense situation.

856
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: But it sounds like overall, I would say, it sounds

857
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: like overall the sea has been a lot safer for

858
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: you in your career in general than the land. Yeah,

859
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm glad to hear that you've uh yeah,

860
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: that your your your career is skyrocketed. It sounds that's

861
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: really awesome.

862
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's it's helped absolve a lot of my

863
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: sort of illusions about the world and sort of I think,

864
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: kind of juvenile thinking. And it's also made me a

865
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: lot more just sane, like like I used to I

866
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: used to smoke quite a lot of weird you know,

867
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: for a good few years after I stopped the busting

868
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: and kind of kid kid myself that it was helping me,

869
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: And it does helped some people. I'm not speaking badly

870
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: of it, you know, but it's just not compatible with me,

871
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: and it made me a very paranoid, like uncommunicative, kind

872
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: of depressed person. And yeah, since stopping because obviously you

873
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: can't get it on the ship, and you know, you've

874
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: got to be comp intest to do your job, your performances. Yeah,

875
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: it's just I'm enjoying my own company better and the

876
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: relationship that I that I started with my lady in

877
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: Front just before I started doing this gig is flourishing

878
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: and sort of everything I've everything I've ever wanted out

879
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: of a relationship. So I've got a lot to be

880
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: thankful for and and I'm having a fat time.

881
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack, is there is there anything else you want

882
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go?

883
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 2: Is it allowing me to share my Instagram?

884
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, actually, you know what's funny is I was

885
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: looking at the Twitch chat and like the second after

886
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: you said my name is Jack Shepherd, but I won't

887
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: be sharing my handle, I was like, like, somebody already

888
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: posted your website in the chat. Sure, yeah, well, I

889
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: mean that's what happens when you Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, Yeah,

890
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: go ahead, share whatever you share, share all your stuff.

891
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said I wasn't going to, but here we are.

892
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: So it's uh from the days when you had to

893
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: get your handle on social media by removing vowels from

894
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: it because someone else had the fucking tag I wanted.

895
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: But it's a mister Shepherd without the vowels. So m

896
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: r s h p h r d so mister Shepper. Oh,

897
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 2: it's just it's just that everywhere we've had this.

898
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: Man, this is couol. Just I'm just scrolling through your Instagram.

899
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: You're a cool ass, dude.

900
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: This is a great man.

901
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: Look at this. Yeah, this guy anyone you're like, You're

902
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: like the Australian. You're like the Australian John Mayer.

903
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: Dude, wait to hear me play guitar before we say that,

904
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 2: because that's a that's a good compliment.

905
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: I haven't heard him play guitar either, but you guys,

906
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: just look.

907
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: That's cool, that's that's funny. You say that because they're

908
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: a dude who looks more like him and plays more

909
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: like him from my busting pitch in Sydney, from my

910
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: home pitch. But yeah, because because you've because we've had

911
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 2: this conversation now and I'm about to do my last

912
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: set in the sort of main spot on the on

913
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: the ship. I'll live stream my my set later on tonight,

914
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: and hey, may as well shout you out like seeing

915
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 2: you said you let me do it here.

916
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at I'm looking at this post. I've

917
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: scrolled through your entire Instagram. You don't post very often.

918
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking through okay for this is from March twelfth,

919
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. You posted a picture of a bearded dragon.

920
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: There's you have a.

921
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: Last bear to dragons?

922
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: Man, oh look my.

923
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: Not my bearded dragon. But when I was allowed to

924
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: post for some photos for a cover of a CD

925
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: that is on Spotify. But yeah, they're beautiful little animals. Man,

926
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: they actually have three eyes.

927
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: Look at this picture of you like fixing a fuck.

928
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're like doing the science experiments.

929
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: That'll be me building. That'll be some twenty fourteen or

930
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: fifteen building an electronic monstrosity of a looper and effects

931
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: machine by cobbling together a bunch of other products and

932
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 2: rewiring them. That actually leads me to.

933
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: I like this photos anyone.

934
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: Sorry, we're cutting to the anyone who wants to learn

935
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: how to loop or need advice on busking and equipment

936
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: and how to do all of that. It's like when

937
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: I'm not performing, I'm building rigs in my head and

938
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: helping other people with it. I haven't turned it into

939
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: a formal business just yet, Like the whole building custom

940
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 2: things for people who are building instruments, but anyone who

941
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: wants to learn how to loop, how to how to busk,

942
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: and some some tips for it, feel free to hit

943
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: me up and I will talk to you, you know,

944
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: just like I've been talking to the get here all day,

945
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: you know, until the cows come home. It's just for

946
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: the love of it and for the passion of it.

947
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: Dude. Fuck, yeah, that's what you're kind of hope. I

948
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: hope you get I hope you get some d MS man.

949
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: If if some if you if you get connected with

950
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: some people through this, that would be really awesome.

951
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: Oh I did, absolutely, And yeah, fucking get nation. Man.

952
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: It's a real, real cool I really didn't expect to

953
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: just get through the first time I called.

954
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: Look at this picture of you, like you're like sitting

955
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: down with the times and you're like looking away and

956
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: you have your hand on the on the back of

957
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: your neck. You look so bashful.

958
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: This is you.

959
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: Gotta you gotta cool. You got you got such a

960
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: you have like such a great like like I'm like, like,

961
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how errated this is, but you've got

962
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: a great like artist image of like a sweet, sensitive,

963
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: brooding man.

964
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: I like it and That's my biggest achillity here is

965
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: like self perception, like understanding what's good or bad about

966
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: what I'm doing and trying to create an artist image.

967
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: Like I've just bought all this kit to do like

968
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 2: quality live streams and stuff, and I just don't know

969
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: what to put on as my main that's my main thing,

970
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: you know. It's yeah, like that that photo shoot was

971
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: supposed to be a trio shoot and then our basis

972
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: couldn't make it. So me and my body were offered

973
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: a fat joint by the by the person shooting, the

974
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: person who owned the gallery or the studio. And there

975
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 2: are some fucking hilarious shots from that, like we we

976
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: were just out of our minds. There's a shot where

977
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm like pushing out my stomach and my buddy's like

978
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: behind me, like like he's like he's cradling the baby.

979
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: It's like it's a maternity s and ship. It's some funny,

980
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: funny ship. But yeah, in those photos of I just

981
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know how to look in in

982
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: fucking photos. Man, I have this pointing meat suit.

983
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: Yes you do, yes, you do? You you might not? Yeah,

984
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: let me tell you this is the last time I

985
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: tell you, Jack is you might not you might not

986
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: be able to intellectualize it how you look in photos.

987
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: But you you, you, you know how to do it.

988
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: Your essence knows how to do it. You know what

989
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: you're You're I I don't say this lightly, Jack, I'm

990
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: just looking through your Instagram and I'm like this. You

991
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: were born to be a star. You're the Australian Jack Mayor.

992
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: And I hope, I hope, I hope that one day,

993
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: one day, John Mayer, do I say, Jack Mayor, I

994
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: forget what I said. I hope one day John Mayer

995
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: becomes the American Jack Shepherd.

996
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: I'd be having a very very good career if that happened.

997
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, a man can dream and uh yeah, man,

998
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: Like if you're if you're ever in the in the

999
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: same place at the same time, if I'm ever doing

1000
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: a concert where there are tickets, you know, free tickets

1001
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: for you in the in the gig nation, bro.

1002
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: Please, that would be that would be cool. Maybe one day,

1003
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: maybe one day we can busk together. I'll play tambourine.

1004
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: Oh that'd be sick. I'll have to get a bit

1005
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: of dragon costume.

1006
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: See you later, Jack, Thank you for calling.

1007
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 2: Uh one last thing though, there's no justification for killing children.

1008
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: There's just no. It's fucking indefensible, Big rock and roll.

1009
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: Letter Jack Peace.

1010
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: Thanks.

1011
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: That was pretty cool. Yeah, I like I like. I

1012
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 1: like busking. I'll sometimes if I'm like in a place,

1013
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: I'll uh just and I see a bus girl, I'll

1014
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: just stand there and watch for a while. I'll watch.

1015
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: I'll watch people watch. It is one of those moments

1016
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: where everyone gathers and you're like okay, Like I don't

1017
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: know throughout all the like crazy AI domerism and everyone

1018
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: being on their phones and like shit, there's something about

1019
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: just watching someone just like play music in a public

1020
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: park and everyone's like dancing and watching along, where you're

1021
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: like everything will everything will probably maybe be okay, and

1022
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's good enough.

1023
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 4: Hi.

1024
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: Hi, what's your name?

1025
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 6: Chunk?

1026
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: That's a cool name.

1027
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 6: Yeah it is. It's like my favorite word.

1028
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: What's up, chunk? How's life?

1029
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 6: Uh? It's going? I mean, it's my twenty second birthday today.

1030
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: You sound like you're forty seven years old.

1031
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 6: Well, that's that's reassuring. I feel like I'm forty seven

1032
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 6: years old.

1033
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: Do you actually feel like you're forty seven years old.

1034
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 6: Well kind of That's kind of why I called in,

1035
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 6: is because I feel like I kind of like ran

1036
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 6: life a little bit and now I'm like not thrilled

1037
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 6: with where I'm at, and I'm like, well, now.

1038
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: What what do you mean you speed ran life?

1039
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 6: Well, like, on paper, everything in my life looks like

1040
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 6: pretty good. I think, like, I I'm twenty two, I

1041
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 6: like live alone with my girlfriend who had been with

1042
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 6: for four years. I have a bachelor's degree, like a

1043
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 6: really good job and everything, but like really all I

1044
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 6: do is just like sit at home and play feef

1045
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 6: all day or like video another video game.

1046
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: You're forty No, you're not forty seven or twenty two?

1047
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: How did you speed run life? You were like, what

1048
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: did you do? So like you okay, So like you're okay,

1049
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: you live with your girlfriend and you have a job. Yeah,

1050
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, I'm doing the whole I'm domestic.

1051
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: I'm I'm living a conventional domestic life exactly twenty two

1052
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: and I have but I and I didn't. I didn't

1053
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: go crazy enough. Is that what's going on?

1054
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 6: Exactly? Like kind of kind of like that, but I never,

1055
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 6: like when I was like doing all that stuff. Like

1056
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 6: I went online college, so I didn't really like kind

1057
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 6: have that like typical like college experience, you know, which

1058
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 6: I didn't really want at the time, and now I

1059
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 6: kind of I kind of do want it, but like

1060
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 6: I also don't want to go into debt to like

1061
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 6: get another degree.

1062
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: No, that's it's really stupid. Well what do you do?

1063
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 6: Yeah? I like work with software for like a construction company.

1064
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 6: It's it's like boring, and I honestly like I'm trying

1065
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 6: to find a different job that like wouldn't be as

1066
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 6: boring because like I do like what I do. I

1067
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 6: just think it's like the job, the specific job I

1068
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 6: don't really like.

1069
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: But you're you're you're a software engineer.

1070
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 6: Not not like a software engineer. I just like support software,

1071
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 6: so like if there's an issue with it, like they

1072
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 6: talk to me right, like like project manage and all

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Speaker 6: that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Do you work from home?

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00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, which is sweet, but it's also like I say,

1076
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 6: at home all the time. You know, it's kind of

1077
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 6: like an adult double edged sword.

1078
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: And if you will you work from how do you

1079
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: like work nine to five?

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01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yep, basically okay.

1081
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: And what no, Yeah, going back to college, going into

1082
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: debt to have a nice time would be a exact

1083
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: Do you make and you make money at this job?

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01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1085
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I make good enough money. I mean it's not

1086
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 6: like the best, but it's better than a lot of people.

1087
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: Okay, so what do you You just want something? Like

1088
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: you want to do something cool and exciting.

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01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, but every time, like I have like desires to

1091
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 6: do stuff that's cool and exciting, I just like can't

1092
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 6: like pick myself up enough to do it. You know,

1093
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 6: Like I I have this thing every day and it's

1094
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 6: like why I've been like non stop listening to the

1095
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 6: show because I sympathize with a lot of people. It's

1096
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 6: like I just like want to do all this stuff,

1097
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 6: but like and I have like time, sometime and resources

1098
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 6: to do it. I just like can't like pick myself

1099
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 6: up to like actually go do it. You know what

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01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 6: I mean?

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01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: Here's you. I don't have to say that I am

1102
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: not a doctor, and so I won't although I'm not

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01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: a doctor, however, I'm like truly my my brother from

1104
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: a personal experience. Have you considered and don't take it

1105
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: from me, go talk to a you know whatever person,

1106
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: But do you just like have fucking ADHD.

1107
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 6: I I haven't been diagnosed. I kind of a little

1108
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 6: bit suspect it. Yeah, but I actually have thought about

1109
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 6: going to therapy recently. I need to just pick my

1110
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 6: like once again, it's one of those things where it's

1111
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 6: like I know I need to do it, and I

1112
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 6: want to do it. I just like have to go

1113
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 6: through the actual steps.

1114
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm only I'm only saying this because

1115
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: like I have it, and I have a ton of

1116
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: friends who have it, and it's like this is like

1117
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: just such a classic. Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna

1118
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: say you got to go get on take a bunch

1119
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: of drugs. I'm not I'm not saying that. I recently

1120
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: started taking a bunch of ADHD medicine and now feel

1121
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: amazing all the time. And so I'm telling you to

1122
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: go do it. But I mean it's worth it to

1123
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: go talk to a person about it because you know

1124
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: what it is is because everything here's here's the thing, right,

1125
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: Like it's like situationally, you can do whatever you want.

1126
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: You can go live in Denver for a month and yeah,

1127
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: hey and you know you're working, you see have money,

1128
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: so you can do it. I don't know what's your

1129
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: what's your girlfriend? Well, actually, hold on, what's your girlfriends do?

1130
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 6: She's she's kind of in a similar spot, Like she

1131
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 6: has like a she actually just quit her job, but

1132
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 6: like it was like a daycare job that was like

1133
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 6: driving her crazy. So she's like kind of in a

1134
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 6: similar spot where like she has stuff she wants to do,

1135
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 6: but like does I don't know, And I don't really

1136
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 6: want to speak for her, but she, like I would say,

1137
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 6: kind of similar like sort of thing. Her Her anxiety

1138
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 6: is kind of like more what like her I guess

1139
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 6: issue was. I don't know if that's like a mean

1140
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 6: thing to say, though, that's.

1141
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like in talking about like you and the

1142
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: specific thing that you brought up where it's like, Okay,

1143
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: I feel like I live the life of a of

1144
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: a you know, forty seven year old married couple. It's like, well,

1145
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: you don't have you don't have to I mean, what

1146
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: would you?

1147
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I agree, Well.

1148
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: You're telling me, You're saying I have things I want

1149
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: to do, but I just can't like bring myself to

1150
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: do them. What are the things?

1151
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 6: Oh? Like mostly honestly traveling, Like I know, it's it's

1152
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 6: kind of stupid that the thing that The thing that

1153
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 6: prevents me from doing it the most is my job,

1154
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 6: Like even you work remote, Like I feel like if

1155
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 6: I was in a different time zone, it would kind

1156
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 6: of like ruin the experience of actually traveling, like having

1157
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 6: to do that. I can like take off like a

1158
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 6: week or so, but like I really want to do

1159
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 6: like the long term travel sort of thing. But I

1160
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 6: I've been trying to plan. I was looking at a

1161
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 6: trip to Thailand maybe later this year. I think that's

1162
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 6: like that would like kick ass and like help me

1163
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 6: out a bunch.

1164
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would kick ass. You do have the problem

1165
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: of like your hours get all fucked, but I don't

1166
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: what kind of job that Like are you well, because

1167
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: he's my question is I mean you're twenty two, so

1168
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: you just started working at this company.

1169
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 6: Uh, I've been there for a year, so like I

1170
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 6: actually that's like kind of what I'm saying too, is

1171
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 6: like I on paper, like it looks really good, Like

1172
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 6: I worked like full time through college, like I it

1173
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 6: didn't feel that hard. But like to an external person,

1174
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 6: that like looks really good. You know what I mean?

1175
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: Are you doing are you are you doing something where

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01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: you are where? Like I don't, I have no idea,

1177
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 1: what you doing your job? Dated? Why are you doing

1178
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: something where you're like constantly like interfacing with people throughout

1179
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: the day and you have to like bere to like

1180
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 1: respect respond to slacks at a certain times exactly, Okay,

1181
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: yeah sure, yeah, okay, so that makes it hard.

1182
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 6: That makes it hard, yeah, exactly. And I like I

1183
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 6: would love to just like try to like go to

1184
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 6: Thailand and like not take off work, But then I

1185
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 6: feel like pretty quickly I would get like pretty tired

1186
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 6: of getting messages at like whatever like two am that

1187
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 6: having to get up and respond to it.

1188
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would suck. That would suck. But you're you

1189
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: have to, Yeah, you have time to make it to Thailand.

1190
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean, why don't you go to like, uh, yeah,

1191
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of cool places you could go to

1192
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: that are on the I'm sorry, did you say where

1193
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: you live now?

1194
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 6: I'm in Pennsylvaniam in the high Yeah.

1195
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're on you're on.

1196
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 2: A s T.

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01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cool places you can go on

1198
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: those on the on those hours. It's all of fucking

1199
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: South America. There's all of uh like Mexico and what

1200
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, Guatemala and like there's adventures that like if

1201
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: you if you're just telling me you want to go

1202
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: on an adventure, HM, I mean I I've been UH

1203
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: working remote for five years and I had one time,

1204
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: like three years ago where I was having another existential

1205
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: crisis and I was like, I gotta go do something crazy,

1206
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: So I went to UH. I went to Guatemala UH

1207
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: for like like a weekend UH and I like just

1208
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: filmed videos and stuff and that was fun. And as

1209
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: you know, that's on the same you can go there.

1210
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: You could go UH, Puerto Rico. That's a good point

1211
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: you can go to. I don't I don't know what's

1212
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: going on, so I don't want don't. I don't know

1213
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: what's going on hon Duras, So I don't want you

1214
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: to go there and die. And then in the news

1215
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: article it's like a gecko told him to go.

1216
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 6: A gecko got him killed in Guatemala.

1217
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: But this is but you know what it is is

1218
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: I actually don't even think I'm just projecting upon you.

1219
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: But I don't even think that this is like a

1220
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: oh I need a recommendation of a place to go.

1221
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: This is like a mental this is is Yeah, that's

1222
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,479
Speaker 1: I don't even know why I'm talking about that ship

1223
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: because this is like a mental hurdle.

1224
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 6: That's a good point too, though, because like I I

1225
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 6: think I just like get hyperfixiated on like one kind

1226
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 6: of trip, like like the month long trip to like

1227
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Speaker 6: somewhere fairy foreign. Yeah, like right right, and and that

1228
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 6: isn't what it needs to be though. No, that's what

1229
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 6: you're saying, and I I agree with that totally. Yeah, yeah, No,

1230
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 6: it is a lot harder like to like get myself

1231
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 6: to do things. I think you were right, Like I

1232
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 6: do just need to take that step of like going

1233
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 6: to a therapist. I did last year, and I feel

1234
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 6: like he would. I actually like did have a time

1235
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 6: last year for like like six months where I was

1236
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 6: like doing every like I was like almost like in

1237
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 6: that like perfect little like I don't want to say grind,

1238
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 6: but like I was doing everything I wanted to be doing.

1239
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 6: Like that's kind of like the main crux of it

1240
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 6: is like I have things I want to be doing,

1241
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 6: but I end up just like scrolling on Instagram and

1242
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 6: watching YouTube videos and playing video games all day.

1243
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 3: You know.

1244
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 6: It's like it's it's the tough part is like getting

1245
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 6: myself to do the things I actually like want to

1246
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 6: be doing you know, like reading is like I want

1247
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 6: to read more. It's like all the typical stuff like read,

1248
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 6: work out.

1249
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Yeah, take a but

1250
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: yeah take a start taking a bunch of of meth.

1251
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: It will help a lot to do those things.

1252
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 6: Well, I already smoke abut unch of weeds.

1253
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of that. There's a lot of

1254
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: ship like this where it's it's such a it's like

1255
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: a Nike just do it thing. But also there can

1256
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: be some yeah, yeah, I don't go talk to a doctor. Man.

1257
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: I used to be in my head. I used to

1258
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: be in my head about uh yeah, there's some there's

1259
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: a lot of this is just like again, Nike, just

1260
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: do it. But now now just from a personal level,

1261
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wait, maybe there's a there's I mean,

1262
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of chemical ship going on. Yeah, definitely,

1263
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead.

1264
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Speaker 6: I've noticed it a lot in the last year. But

1265
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 6: there's part of me too that's like should should I

1266
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 6: be content? Like if this is the thing that like

1267
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 6: my it's I have a hard time reconciling, like if

1268
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 6: what my brain wants me to do in the current

1269
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 6: moment is like what I should be doing versus like

1270
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 6: what in like my I guess like my higher conscious

1271
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 6: mind thinks I should be doing. You know, like I

1272
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 6: almost feel like I should find like like peace and

1273
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 6: like happiness in the things I'm already doing, like all

1274
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 6: the dumb bullshit I do. Like, you know, I like

1275
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 6: I'm in a very fortunate position to be able to

1276
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 6: wake up, you know, like five minutes after work starts

1277
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 6: and go make a bowl of yogurt and watch YouTube

1278
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 6: for an hour until I get a team's message, you

1279
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 6: know what I mean?

1280
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't I want what's your name again?

1281
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 6: Junk?

1282
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 1: Junk? Oh yeah, you said that, Junk. Everything you're saying

1283
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: to me, and also the fact that you're telling me

1284
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: that that just the things that people talk about on

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Speaker 1: this podcast are resonate with you. It's like, Oh, I

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01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:50,879
Speaker 1: I all those thoughts that you're saying right now, I've

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01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: had all of them. I've I've been attacked by uh shoulds,

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01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: and I've let you know, should kind of run my

1289
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: brain and mental whatever a lot. But fucking just how

1290
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: do I say this? Uh? I want to say there's

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01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: nothing you should be doing, and I do kind of

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01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: I do like philosophically, I guess believe that. But yeah,

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01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: well also it's it's like, what are we having this

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01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: conversation for. Just go to fucking just go it's on

1295
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: the thing, d Just go on the thing. Go on,

1296
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: go to go to go see a therapist or a

1297
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: psychiatrist and find out if if they're like, hey, you

1298
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: probably have this thing you should take medication for, and

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Speaker 1: then go on the trip. You know, there's no I don't. Yeah,

1300
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean we could philosophize size about this all day.

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01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: I personally, I mean, I am blessed enough to have

1302
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: ran ran a gamut and that what you're talking about

1303
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: is is a balance of that I've personally been trying

1304
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: to find in my own life for a long time,

1305
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: and uh only only only, I'm telling you, extremely recently

1306
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: have I felt like I've found that balance? I'm like

1307
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,759
Speaker 1: extremely recently, like I'm talking like a month. Have I

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01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: felt like I found some balance? And it might fall

1309
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: apart and I might be Yeah. I always, I always

1310
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: feel like you got there and then and then a little,

1311
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: an little demon shows up and he's like, hey, remember me,

1312
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,520
Speaker 1: I got hot?

1313
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 6: The little demon of Instagram reels or something like that.

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01:12:53,960 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know, just like, yeah, go talk

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01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: to a fucking real person and see if they are like, hey,

1316
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: you got to take pills.

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01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, and definitely I I have been that for a

1318
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 6: long time.

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01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: It's a it's a real cat and mouse game because

1321
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: you like, you know, you gotta you know, you got

1322
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: to make an appointment for a thing, and then you

1323
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: go and then there, and then they and then they

1324
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: send you a form and the second you make a

1325
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 1: phone call and they send you a form and you

1326
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,879
Speaker 1: see the form and it like you see one question

1327
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: in the form where you're like, oh, crap, in order

1328
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: to answer this, I gotta find this other information. You're like,

1329
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: it's over. I'm never I'm gonna die without ever doing this.

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01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 5: Yes. Absolutely.

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01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 1: Have you ever been on a trip?

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01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 6: Uh? Last year my girlfriend I went up to Maine

1333
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 6: for like a week. That's kind of the same trip.

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01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 6: I think I need to just do. You know, we

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01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 6: we like have a trip up to Massachusetts with my family.

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01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 6: And that's a hard thing too, is like I always

1337
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 6: have like, well, it's not hard. I don't know, I

1338
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 6: don't know how to say it really, but it's like

1339
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 6: I have these like family trips that like take away

1340
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 6: from like I don't know, I want to say, disregard

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 6: that it's it's that's fine, that's.

1342
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: Like, no, I know, I know, I know, I know,

1343
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: I know exactly what. Uh I think I know exactly

1344
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: what you want to say, but feel bad expressing, which

1345
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: is like you're on the family trip, but you're like

1346
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: and in your head you're like, I should be grateful

1347
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: I'm on this family trip, but in your gut you're

1348
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: like yeah. But in your gut you're like, yeah, but

1349
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: this ain't the sauce. You know.

1350
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've done the same exact thing like ten times.

1351
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 6: You know, I've gone to the same little town in

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01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 6: Massachusetts like ten times.

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01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: No, here's because I also believe this in a sense

1354
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: of I like having this conversation we're happening, we're having

1355
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: because I kind of feel like I know where your

1356
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: brain is at and you're you're five years younger than me,

1357
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: and uh, I know what you're saying because you're eventually

1358
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 1: gonna get to a point. I think this is part

1359
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: of getting older, is like yeah, like if I you know,

1360
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: I've been on a billion trips and done a billion

1361
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 1: things where I'm like, oh, yeah, this is the sauce,

1362
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: and then later and then even after that felt again

1363
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: only up until very recently, still after going on all

1364
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: those trips, felt unsatiated and felt like, oh, I don't

1365
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing? Am I doing what I? Only

1366
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: very recently have I locked into a life rhythm where

1367
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I feel confident about this, and now

1368
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: that I'm there, ish I maybe who knows? Who knows? Whatever?

1369
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: Do I now feel like if my mom and stepdad

1370
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: wanted me to go with them to Maine and I

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01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: and I only now after I've gotten all of that

1372
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: out of my system and felt like I'm on a

1373
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: nice track and I'm not preoccupied with what I should

1374
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: be doing. Can I now be like fully in the

1375
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 1: moment with my mom and my stepdad as I should

1376
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: or I I yea as you know, you know what

1377
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean. But it takes. It takes, It takes getting

1378
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 1: a little older, It takes finding a nice rhythm for

1379
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: yourself and your life that you feel good about, and

1380
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: that just that just takes time. So don't you don't

1381
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: have to feel bad about what you're feeling right now.

1382
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: But you know you'll, you'll, you'll fucking get there, you know,

1383
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: it's I don't I don't want to be too reductive

1384
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: and say, oh, you're twenty two or whatever. But just

1385
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: because I know the feelings you're having in your brain

1386
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: right now, I just I couldn't it like I'm it

1387
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 1: took five years maybe more. I don't know if I'll

1388
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: revert back to, oh I'm doing the wrong thing. I

1389
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: I only I've only peaceful or I've only felt peace

1390
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: for the last month of my life. Everything else has

1391
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: been yeah, yeah adhd crazy brain scramble, but yeah, but yeah, Dode,

1392
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 1: You'll I think you'll get You'll get there, but uh,

1393
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: I've got to you gotta know, I think, but you

1394
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,600
Speaker 1: got you gotta put yourself out there. And and I

1395
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you get to that point with medication

1396
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 1: or if you get to that point by just Nike

1397
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: just do it, but uh, yeah, you'll get there. Like

1398
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: when you're thirty and you're and you've traveled all these

1399
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: places and you've done these and you're not here. It's

1400
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: also I think that's a young man's game. Uh, that's

1401
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: is wondering.

1402
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 6: It's like I I all these years that like I

1403
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 6: don't know, I don't necessarily think there's like a right

1404
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 6: time to be doing all those things. And now like

1405
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 6: because I did all those things, I have like more

1406
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 6: of an ability like financially to travel. But like it's

1407
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 6: like I almost feel like I like focused on like

1408
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 6: the uh the like work like part first then that

1409
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 6: I should that was like a mistake.

1410
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: But no, that wasn't a mistake at all. That was

1411
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: not a mistake at all. Because here's the thing, uh

1412
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: going to like all this ship that we're talking about,

1413
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: Like it costs money to do, and the there's there's

1414
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 1: a nice balance to strike between like putting your head

1415
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: down and getting your your bag and trying to set

1416
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: up a nice financial foundation for yourself and then like

1417
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, having having fun. But it's so much easier

1418
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: to have fun and do the things that you want

1419
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: to do when when you're not you know, stressed out

1420
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: about about about money. It is it is important. And

1421
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 1: also you know, get this when when you and your

1422
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: girlfriend are married and thirty and whatever, and and you

1423
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: because you got your money up and you put it

1424
01:18:55,320 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: in the fucking stupid index fund or whatever, and you know, thirty,

1425
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: you have some money. Now you can really fucking do

1426
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 1: whatever the hell you want. So I don't think you

1427
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: made any mistakes. I think you did it. Sounds like

1428
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: you did things really well.

1429
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 6: Yeah. It reminds me of the caller the other week.

1430
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 6: I don't know when when it was for you, but

1431
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 6: it was only a couple of days for me in

1432
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 6: podcast world. But it was the one that worked at

1433
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 6: his father's painting company and you were telling him just

1434
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 6: to like work there, And like, I resonated a lot

1435
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 6: with that because it was like that was like, what

1436
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 6: I did? You know that is the right advice?

1437
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm actually I'm actually, I'm actually so you know

1438
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: what's you know what's so funny is I I I know,

1439
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't know you, but we have so much of

1440
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I really resonate with like the

1441
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: bright your brain and it's so it's so funny because uh,

1442
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: I actually got a lot of flak in the comments section.

1443
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: Really whatever what I said to that guy and you know,

1444
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: here's here's and I actually I was thinking of a

1445
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: lot and I talk in my real life. I talked

1446
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: to my like friends and family about that call and

1447
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,879
Speaker 1: about uh that I was getting flack for it because

1448
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: I like and I was trying to understand it. Maybe

1449
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: that specific caller could have done like some things different,

1450
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: like could have I don't know, found a better paying

1451
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: job somewhere else, or gone to trade school or something.

1452
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: Here's what. But what upset me about the flack I

1453
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: got in the comments was not that people. I'm so

1454
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't get please if you disagree with things that

1455
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: I say in this podcast here, I would be insane

1456
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: if I wanted nobody to ever disagree with me. But

1457
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted like, I wanted feedback. I wanted

1458
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: like alternative things well people. If people in the comments

1459
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: were like, GEK, that's stupid and you're being toxic and

1460
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 1: and and when I read that, I'm like, yeah, what what?

1461
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: When I read that, I'm like, uh, you know what,

1462
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: I will fully, fully fully accept that I was that

1463
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: I was being whatever, but I want to but I'm what,

1464
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 1: do you what do you think? I hate when people

1465
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: said I hate when they're like you're wrong, but they

1466
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: don't come up with an alternative. Yeah, not a reason,

1467
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 1: but like here, like, Lyle, what you said to this

1468
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: guy was wrong. Here's what I think this guy should do.

1469
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: Because if I saw a comment where someone was like, Lyle,

1470
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: you're a fat idiot and I and I disagree with you,

1471
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: and I think what you said to that kid was harmful.

1472
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: Here's what I think instead he should do. I would

1473
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: read that and then be like, oh, you know what,

1474
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: you're right, I actually am a fat idiot and this

1475
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: comment or is correct. I like that idea. But when

1476
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: it's just hey, you're a fat ida and you're wrong,

1477
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, give me, like I just I was.

1478
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: That's what bummed me because I wanted I wanted to

1479
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: hear in the comments like what other people thought that

1480
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: that kid should do, so that way I could read

1481
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: it and be like, Okay, you know what these people

1482
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: are rights, Yeah, definitely, but but I you know, don't

1483
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: get me wrong.

1484
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 6: He should definitely have asked his dad for a raise.

1485
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 6: I was like, say, I like audibly gasped when I heard.

1486
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 6: But it was like it at the same time, like

1487
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 6: that mindset of what you were saying, like that is

1488
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 6: I was thinking about it of like you can just

1489
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 6: do that, Like you can just work that much and

1490
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 6: still have all the other things that you want. And

1491
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 6: it's like that kind of resonated with me because it's

1492
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 6: like I have I don't even have to go out

1493
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 6: and paint cars every day. Like I'm I have all

1494
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 6: this time at home to be like doing things. I

1495
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 6: just like haven't you know, actually done them yet. And obviously,

1496
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 6: like you know, we talked about how I can fix that,

1497
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 6: but it's it's like I I definitely think that that

1498
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 6: that people like get really fixated on, like the ideal

1499
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 6: or like one track of life where like a lot

1500
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 6: of people don't have that situation like where they have

1501
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 6: a company where they can actually work at and like

1502
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 6: learn stuff, because like that that will benefit him for

1503
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 6: many years to come. Like it just he's not just

1504
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 6: like working at like CBS or something. Nothing wrong with that,

1505
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 6: but it's like there's like less upward mobility at like

1506
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 6: a CBS versus like your dad's company. You know.

1507
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was talking. I was talking to my friends

1508
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: about that call, and they were like and and a

1509
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: lot of them were like, eh, he should probably like

1510
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: see if he can find a job that's more than

1511
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: minimum wage or like maybe try going to a trade

1512
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 1: school or like you know, the government has certain programs

1513
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: where they're like pay for you to but they were

1514
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: again and I was talking to my friends about it,

1515
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh, maybe you're right. Maybe

1516
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have told him to work for minimum wage.

1517
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: But out of comments, I was like, I was like,

1518
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: well give me, you know, I don't I'm totally to

1519
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: be happy. No, I was like, I was like, I'm

1520
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 1: happy to be wrong, but I want alternative.

1521
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1522
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: It's like do you know the comedian Mark Norman. Yeah, yeah,

1523
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: First of all, I shouldn't be reading internet comments in

1524
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 1: the first place, but I I listened to Mark. I

1525
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 1: listened to Mark Norman. This is how I feel about

1526
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: like internet comments when I read them about myself. Like

1527
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: Mark Norman was talking on like some podcasts once and

1528
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: he was like, sometimes I read a comment on my

1529
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: stand up and it's like, uh, you know, you suck

1530
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: and you're not funny, and I'm like ah or whatever.

1531
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: And then sometimes they read a comment that's like this

1532
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 1: guy needs to work on my on his delivery, and

1533
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, the fuck, maybe I need to work on

1534
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: my delivery, you know what I mean? Like something, yeah, exactly,

1535
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: you know.

1536
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1537
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 6: Anyway, do you ever, like, do you ever like read comments?

1538
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 6: Or I get off a podcast like this or not

1539
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 6: podcasts or the Twitch stream and like go and like

1540
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 6: have a bunch of motivation to do stuff or is

1541
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 6: it just like you turn an offense, like back to normal.

1542
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 1: Uh lately, well asked, Well, today I gotta do ship.

1543
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: But lately I've I've actually I deleted Spotify off of

1544
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: my phone so that I don't like check comments. I've

1545
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: I deleted Spotify, YouTube, basta, I delete I like, I don't.

1546
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:19,839
Speaker 1: I deleted like Spotify, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, email, like everything

1547
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: off my phone because uh, it's just there's just no it's.

1548
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 6: Just this is Yeah, you just go to her. I

1549
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 6: would too if there's always people like I have a

1550
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 6: little photography Instagram, and anytime I post something, I'm like

1551
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 6: addicted to going back and looking if I got like

1552
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 6: one more like than I did the last time. You know,

1553
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 6: I can't even imagine, like at a bigger scale.

1554
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: Do you know who doctor k is? Yeah, yeah, the

1555
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: healthy gamer guy, right, Yeah, he's dude, He's so awesome.

1556
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 1: I was watching, Yeah, I was. I was watching a

1557
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 1: video of his and he was talking about like, you know,

1558
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: if you make anything on the Internet, you get kind

1559
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: of like addicted. You get addicted to the there's there's

1560
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: the whole like there's like a mental roller coaster. Of

1561
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: like numbers going up and down and up and down,

1562
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: and he's and he was like the worst thing that

1563
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 1: you could do is to just be constantly looking with

1564
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: no perpose, like I'm like, and I've not and I

1565
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 1: was doing that, and I was like, oh, I'm just

1566
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm just stuck in this weird like dopamine t there's

1567
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: nothing productive underneath what I'm actually doing. And he's and

1568
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: doctor Kay was like set up like one time a

1569
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: week to look at the numbers and go in there

1570
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: with like an analytical mind because it's one like analytics

1571
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: are like analytics are like important in whatever it is

1572
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 1: you do. But if you're if you're just going into

1573
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: them to like ride your emotional roller coaster, that's fucking

1574
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 1: stupid because there's nothing you can but if there's nothing

1575
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: you can do in the moment. But if you're going

1576
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 1: into them with a pure analytical mindset and go, Okay,

1577
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: this is what worked, this is what didn't, and I

1578
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: will learn better for next time, then that's nice. But

1579
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: anything other than that, you're just riding a stupid roller

1580
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: coaster meant to make.

1581
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 6: Exactly absolute.

1582
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your name again, Chunk? Chunk? Hmmm, Chunk I'm all,

1583
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm only saying this because I have ADHD, and I understand,

1584
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: and I feel like I have a nice understanding of

1585
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: the way that your brain has been working from what

1586
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 1: you're telling me. You might you might have ADHD. Dude,

1587
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: don't I don't let me tell you, by the way,

1588
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: don't let me tell you that. Don't let me tell

1589
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 1: you that I'm I'm telling you. I'm telling you that. No,

1590
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not evens No, I'm not I'm

1591
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: not a crossing. I'm telling you this just as a homie. Okay,

1592
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: you might.

1593
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 6: I know I'm joking. I I I honestly, it's kind

1594
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 6: of funny because I think I've known that in my

1595
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 6: mind for a while. Just like I've been picking up

1596
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 6: on like things I do, like just like my NonStop

1597
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 6: like need to like fidget, Like literally right now I'm walking.

1598
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 6: I paced across my apartment twenty times, and like I

1599
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 6: have a rubber band in my hand like I can't,

1600
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 6: like you know, I have to have something at my

1601
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 6: hands at all times or something like that, And just

1602
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 6: like not only that, but like a million other little

1603
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 6: things that I've noticed, so like for you for me

1604
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 6: to come on here and you clock it like pretty quickly.

1605
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 6: I feel like that. You know, that's that's real?

1606
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 5: You know, bro?

1607
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: I walk her. I was walking around and I had

1608
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: I have sunglasses and I'm just like holding one of

1609
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: the sunglass rims and I'm twirling it. I'm like, what

1610
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: the fuck am I doing? Or like anytime I have

1611
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: a cup, anytime I have a cup, yeah, I must

1612
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: just like a plastic cup, I must destroy the cup.

1613
01:28:56,160 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 1: I don't know why things things I've been doing. These

1614
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: are things I've been doing my whole life that I

1615
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 1: never ever even stopped to think about that I was

1616
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: doing exactly. Yeah, bro, you have any you know what

1617
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: I don't you know what? I professionally diagnosed you know what?

1618
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Fuck every I professionally diagnosed you with ADHD. And if

1619
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: you take, if you overdose on vibeance and die, I

1620
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 1: will take medical responsibility for that. You consume me if

1621
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 1: that happened, okay.

1622
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 6: My family, My family will be in touch after I

1623
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 6: take two whole models.

1624
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: I shouldn't, I shouldn't say any of these things to you,

1625
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: but I just like, I just so know again, I

1626
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: just know exactly what the thing is. So I mean, yeah, bro,

1627
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 1: you I talk. You go talk to a real therapist.

1628
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:50,719
Speaker 6: But yeah, I will.

1629
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: I will.

1630
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,560
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'll look at it right after this. But yeah,

1631
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 6: I've been thinking about that for a while. And it's

1632
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 6: also like I think it's definitely a big connection as

1633
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 6: to why like I can't like get myself to do

1634
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,919
Speaker 6: anything other than like the thing that you know quiets

1635
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 6: my brain down for a little while.

1636
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 5: You know.

1637
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 6: And yeah, but also like on another note, like I've

1638
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 6: had this weird feeling I just want I don't know

1639
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 6: if you want to, if you don't mind if I

1640
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 6: bring something else up or not. I've I moved to

1641
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 6: the city here in Pennsylvania, and it's like kind of

1642
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 6: like always was my like dream to do it, you know,

1643
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 6: like not this particular city. I mean it's east and

1644
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 6: I don't know why I don't need to it's not

1645
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 6: a big well, it's a kind of big city. But

1646
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 6: it's like always was my dream to like live in

1647
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 6: like a city and be able to walk and like

1648
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 6: do all this stuff. And it's like I don't I

1649
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 6: do it. Sometimes it's just like I feel like so

1650
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 6: out of place. I feel like that's going to be

1651
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 6: like the same way I feel like when I'm traveling

1652
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 6: to like, I feel like I'm like a still even

1653
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 6: though I've loved care for like six months. Now, do

1654
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 6: you ever get that feeling like when you're traveling or

1655
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 6: like doing living somewhere or something like that.

1656
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, is that not the point though?

1657
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 6: That's true? I don't know. Yeah. I think I just

1658
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 6: have this like unrealistic expectation that I'm gonna like be

1659
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 6: a local immediately or something like that. But yeah, I

1660
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 6: mean that's a good that's a good way of framing it.

1661
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I I'll say this like, if you

1662
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: can there's a I mean, if you want to have

1663
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: a more I guess authentic experience, Like, there's a billion

1664
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: ways to do it. I mean instead of like like

1665
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: instead of like getting a hotel or something, you can

1666
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: go on CouchSurfing dot com, or you could stay at

1667
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 1: like a hostel, or you could like there's a lot

1668
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 1: like there's there's there's cooler ways to do it than

1669
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: like just getting at a hotel.

1670
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, in the hotel yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, yeah, I'll

1671
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 6: look at that whenever I whenever I get my trip planned.

1672
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 1: Chun Yep, I've genuinely really enjoyed having this conversation with you.

1673
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 6: Thank you all. I've been listening for like I think

1674
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,839
Speaker 6: like four or five years now, but basically since you've started.

1675
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 6: I love it.

1676
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: I love this podcast kick ass. Thank you man. M

1677
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: mm hmmm. Did let me know what you're fucking do?

1678
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: You go see a real fucking thing and then let

1679
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: me know if what they say, I'm curious.

1680
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 6: I'll instagram DM you okay?

1681
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 1: Cool?

1682
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 6: Whenever I whenever I go.

1683
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: Chunk, is there anything else I say? Is there anything

1684
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 1: else you wanna say to the people of the computer

1685
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: before we go?

1686
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 5: Go?

1687
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 3: Eagles?

1688
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 5: Uh?

1689
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 6: I I really always thought about what I would say,

1690
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 6: and that's only the only thing that ever came to

1691
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:54,679
Speaker 6: my mind.

1692
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 1: So go Eagles, beautiful, See you later, Chunk.

1693
01:32:59,280 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 6: Yeah bye.

1694
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: That was cool. I liked that conversation a lot because, yeah,

1695
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't know sometimes like I mean, yeah, I'm like

1696
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: it is, dude, It is so funny because that guy

1697
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: is twenty two and I I I didn't clock that

1698
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't normal to just destroy a cup that you

1699
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: have in your hand, or like chew on pens and

1700
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: destroy them or twirl with like I'm always fidgeting, And

1701
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:38,719
Speaker 1: it was such a part of my life that I

1702
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: didn't even know it wasn't normal. That's a that's a trap.

1703
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 1: I think you can kind of get in with this

1704
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: kind of shit. And I'm just realizing this, like I

1705
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: only I only came to these realizations. Like again, like

1706
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: a month ago. I'm twenty seven, this guy's twenty two,

1707
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: So like I do, I think that that'd be that's

1708
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: kind of a nice gift to like, because you're the

1709
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: only one, like like like you're the only person with

1710
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: you one hundred percent of the time, so you don't

1711
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 1: have and unless if like your friend, like you don't

1712
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: have that much data to know if your thoughts and

1713
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: behaviors are quote unquote normal. And then every once in

1714
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 1: a while you're like, oh, this thing that was so

1715
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,640
Speaker 1: intuitive to me is not what everyone doesn't do that

1716
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, this is helpful information to have. Hi, Hello, Hi,

1717
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 1: what's your name?

1718
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 6: June Bug?

1719
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 1: June Bug, june Bug. This is this is not going

1720
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 1: to interest you or anyone listening to this, But there

1721
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: is a super Smash Brother's melee player named Junebug who

1722
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 1: is revitalizing the game right now because he's proving that

1723
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 1: Donkey Kong can actually be used as a competitively viable

1724
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 1: character to win tournaments. Do you know that?

1725
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 5: No, that kind of sounded like an ad.

1726
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 1: That sounded like an ad. It did, you know what? Good?

1727
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,719
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you know what? It was an ad.

1728
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: I hope that whoever listens to the ad I just

1729
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: did is compelled to go watch Junebug play Donkey Kong

1730
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Anyway, what's up? June Bug has life.

1731
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 5: There's a lot going on, but it's good. Kind of No,

1732
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,719
Speaker 5: I just kind of wanted to talk about how my

1733
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 5: my dad just got married to my stepmom and you're

1734
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 5: all on the beach and we went to a bar

1735
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 5: and my new step uncle flirted with me really bad.

1736
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 5: He said that he wanted me, so, yeah, I got

1737
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 5: to figure out how to tell my husband and my.

1738
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 1: Step mom your step wait step uncle, hold on, that's

1739
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: your my new step.

1740
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 5: Uncle, my new stepmom's younger brother.

1741
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so your new stepmom's younger brother. He was flirting

1742
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: with you.

1743
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were all at the bar and he was

1744
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 5: getting increasingly touchy, and I had another family member like

1745
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 5: get me out of it. But that was whenever all

1746
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 5: the other all the other family left because my dad

1747
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 5: and my step mom went to go on their honeymoon,

1748
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 5: and he was like touching on my waist, grabbing me,

1749
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 5: and I had to just remove myself from the situation.

1750
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 5: But we were all driving together and on the drive home,

1751
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 5: I asked if anyone wanted to Taco Bell and he

1752
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 5: said that he wanted me, And I'm like, oh, okay,

1753
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 5: who is do you?

1754
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 1: Did you? Was this this guy's like first time meeting you.

1755
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 5: No, I've known him for about six years, and then

1756
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,799
Speaker 5: he did he he knows that I'm married.

1757
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 1: Wait, so you've known this dude for six years and

1758
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he just starts flirting with you.

1759
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, he was supposed to get married this year,

1760
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 5: and I think my dad's weddings set him off. And

1761
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 5: my husband's deployed, so I think it was just a

1762
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 5: mix of like alcohol feelings and then oh, her husband's

1763
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 5: not here, let me get my move in. But I

1764
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 5: need to figure out a way. Well I'm gonna tell

1765
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 5: my stepmom obviously, but I got to figure out a

1766
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 5: way to tell my husband because he's deployed, but I

1767
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 5: don't want him to freak out. I talked to my

1768
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 5: mother in law already. She knows all about this, but

1769
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't really know how to tell him

1770
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 5: without freaking out because where he's at, she's kind of

1771
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 5: popping off, and.

1772
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 1: I don't want to give him why. Well, wait, that's

1773
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 1: a stupid question. I guess I was gonna ask, why

1774
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 1: would your husband freak out? But that's a stupid question.

1775
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 1: Why why? I'm I'm trying to understand more about why

1776
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 1: you're hesitant about telling you your husband.

1777
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 5: Well, so my husband was cheated on before, on his

1778
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 5: last deployment, before I met him, and I talked to

1779
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 5: my mother in law about it, and she's like, well,

1780
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 5: you should probably, you know, you should tell him, but

1781
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 5: you should wait until after he's back home. But he

1782
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:28,799
Speaker 5: he's very protective of our relationship due to his prior

1783
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 5: being being cheat on.

1784
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 2: Friar.

1785
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so when you say you're worried, he'll freak out,

1786
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 1: like what what is that?

1787
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:45,640
Speaker 5: I don't want family situations to be fucking weird, you know,

1788
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 5: because well we're a.

1789
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: Little we're a little past that. We're a little past

1790
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 1: to family situations being weird. We're we're there.

1791
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's very true. It's if I know him, If

1792
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 5: I I don't want, you know, the next Thanksgiving or

1793
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 5: Christmas or you know, we always you know, go to

1794
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 5: my stepmom's house, her family's house, so my I guess

1795
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 5: my new step grandparents for the fucking what's the football tournament?

1796
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 5: I don't know nothing about football. It's Super Bowl? Yeah, yeah,

1797
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 5: And I don't want to go there and just have

1798
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 5: this tension. And I know it's not my fault. I

1799
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 5: shouldn't be worried, but it's like, fuck, I know. I

1800
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 5: know my husband would try to fight a motherfucker. I

1801
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 5: know he would, So I'm like, I don't want to

1802
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 5: avoid that. But I think I am past that. I

1803
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 5: think we are past that. I don't know. I do

1804
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 5: have a therapy appointment coming up this Tuesday, so maybe

1805
01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 5: I should talk to my actual therapist about that and.

1806
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Not well, sure, yeah, of course, I don't know.

1807
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 5: That's just fucking weird because I don't know. Maybe this

1808
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 5: is less about like asking for advice, but like those

1809
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 5: feelings don't just come out of nowhere?

1810
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 6: Do they want?

1811
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 1: Like wanting to feelings the feelings that your I don't

1812
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 1: know what's going on. I don't know why. I don't

1813
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 1: know why your step uncle, Yeah, I don't. I don't.

1814
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: I don't know why your step uncle. Uh was was weird? Yeah?

1815
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 1: It is, it is weird. I'm I guess.

1816
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1817
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 1: The part of this that I'm I'm curious about is

1818
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 1: again like the thing, the thing where you're worried about

1819
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 1: your husband, like freaking out because did anyone? I guess

1820
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 1: what I'm curious is like, did any you told your

1821
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 1: mother in law? Right? Not mother? Wait? Mother in law? Wait,

1822
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 1: not your step moms.

1823
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 5: I haven't told her.

1824
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:02,520
Speaker 1: You even told your step mom.

1825
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 5: Because she's on her honeymoon and I don't want to

1826
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 5: ruin it, but I am going to tell her.

1827
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 4: Okay because Friday.

1828
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, right is if is if we're

1829
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: going to keep doing super Bowls together and we're gonna

1830
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 1: keep doing Thanksgivings together, you know someone's someone's got to

1831
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: tell uh the step uncle, Like, yo, you gotta not

1832
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: do that.

1833
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:32,760
Speaker 5: Yeah. So I don't know. I only see him a

1834
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 5: handful of times a year, so like I could definitely

1835
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 5: avoid him. It's just he I've also so, my husband

1836
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 5: and I are married. We looked for his deployment and

1837
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 5: later this summer we're actually planning a wedding party and

1838
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 5: he's already invited.

1839
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: He's invited.

1840
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 5: Well yeah, they're like, they're all my family, Like, you know,

1841
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 5: I love my stepmother, you know, and I'm like, fuck,

1842
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 5: should I in our life like talk to him and

1843
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 5: be like, sorry, you're not invited anymore, but the.

1844
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 1: Rest of your well, I well, here's the question. Here's

1845
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 1: the question. Here's the question. Here's the question. And this

1846
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:13,600
Speaker 1: is is I mean, after this all went down, the

1847
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 1: do you want him there? If you don't want him there,

1848
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 1: then I mean, yeah, yeah, you don't want him there.

1849
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 5: No, but here, So they're all close. And the thing is,

1850
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 5: so my step mom she's she has her brother, which

1851
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 5: is a twin, and then she has a younger set

1852
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,759
Speaker 5: of another set of brothers that are also twin brothers.

1853
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 5: It'll be weird if I invite one twin but not

1854
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 5: the other because I'm friends with the twin. I don't know,

1855
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 5: it's like some sort of like twin. They don't go

1856
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 5: anywhere without each other.

1857
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah yeah, but like I mean, look, this

1858
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 1: guy clearly you know, overstepped uh his boundaries, right, and

1859
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,719
Speaker 1: if you want and if you don't, and if because

1860
01:42:55,720 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: of that you don't want him at your fucking wedding.

1861
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's an L. He's got to hold,

1862
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like and also, look, is he

1863
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 1: really gonna is he? That's it? That's just that's just

1864
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 1: an L. You gotta hold. You gotta be like, hey man,

1865
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 1: look you were that was kind of weird. So I'm

1866
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 1: not gonna write you to the wedding. What's he gonna do?

1867
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 1: Be mad about that?

1868
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 5: I hope he does. He deserves it, to be honest.

1869
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:27,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get well, I understand from you. I understand.

1870
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 5: Also that also opens a whole can of worms. Because

1871
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 5: I want to keep this on the down low. I'd

1872
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 5: rather just, you know, tell my husband, tell my step mother,

1873
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 5: you know, have you know, have my stepmother have a

1874
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 5: talk with my new uncle. Oh god, And you don't

1875
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 5: want it to be yes, but you're not interested in him. Yeah,

1876
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 5: if I don't invite him to my wedding, which he's

1877
01:43:56,640 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 5: already invited. I already sent out invitations, it'd be kind

1878
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:05,759
Speaker 5: of weird. I don't know. That'll just invite attention and drama.

1879
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: And you're balancing. I I see, okay, no, one hundred

1880
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:15,719
Speaker 1: see what you're saying. You're balancing, like I don't want

1881
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:18,679
Speaker 1: to have this guy at my wedding, versus I want

1882
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 1: the path of lease resistance. You don't want to You're

1883
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: not interested in like stirring up the family dynamics. You

1884
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with the drama of the fucking

1885
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: whole thing. You don't want to stir the pot. You

1886
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 1: just want to have your wedding and not think about

1887
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 1: any crap. And you just you want you're you're you're

1888
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 1: interested in taking the path of least resistance. Oh, of course,

1889
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 1: of course that's understandable. Yeah, let's understand. That's totally understand.

1890
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 1: It's totally you know, listen, here's the thing. If if

1891
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 1: you told me that you wanted to wage war on

1892
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 1: this guy, or or if you told me you wanted

1893
01:44:55,320 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 1: to take the path of leaks resistance, both both valid

1894
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: ways of going about your life.

1895
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 5: I get. This is just a really tricky situation because

1896
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 5: I also have to take uh, my dad's new marriage

1897
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 5: into account, because what if my dad, you know, he's

1898
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 5: not this type of person, but what if he gets

1899
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 5: super fucking pissed off at him, and you know, the

1900
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,640
Speaker 5: family dynamic in between you know, his new wife and

1901
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 5: his brother in law is strained it's just I just

1902
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 5: wish it never fucking happened. It's just so.

1903
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it's a it's a it's a

1904
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 1: shitty position for you to be in, and now you're

1905
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 1: you have to deal with it, You have to figure

1906
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 1: out how to deal with it, and you just don't

1907
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 1: even want to have ever even have to deal with

1908
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 1: it in the first place, which sucks.

1909
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 5: Mm hm HMMMMO.

1910
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I I guess, like, yeah, I guess,

1911
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: I get I get wanting to take the path of

1912
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 1: least resistance, But at some point someone's gotta sit, sit

1913
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 1: the guy down and be like, yo, you can't do that.

1914
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 5: Because my thing is like, what if you know I

1915
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 5: wasn't family. You know, he was really touchy and up front,

1916
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,799
Speaker 5: you know, if I wasn't family, is this a problem

1917
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 5: that's happened before with another woman and you know we

1918
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 5: just didn't know it. I don't want a whole family intervention.

1919
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 5: But I just really appreciate my step mom. You know,

1920
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 5: she's the older sister, you know, putting on her big

1921
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 5: sister voice and you know, laying down the law.

1922
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So here's what I guess. I sorry, go ahead,

1923
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 1: you more to say, go ahead. Well, I guess what

1924
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,640
Speaker 1: my thoughts about this are like, because you're in a

1925
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 1: situation where you're like, I just wish I was never

1926
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 1: in this situation. I don't want to deal with any

1927
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 1: of this crap like I don't like and then and

1928
01:46:57,680 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 1: and when you're in a situation like that, the path

1929
01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 1: of least resistance is the is is very attractive path.

1930
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 1: So look, I'll say here's here's the thing. I'll say

1931
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 1: this whatever, here's what I would say, whatever way of

1932
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 1: moving forward in this situation brings you personally the most

1933
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 1: amount of peace. Huh. And I don't know which way

1934
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 1: that is, because I'm not you, and this is however

1935
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 1: you want to run your life. But I would say,

1936
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 1: whatever way of running this situation brings you personally the

1937
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 1: most amount of peace, if that's the one you want

1938
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 1: to take. Again, I don't know which what that is,

1939
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 1: because your decision, it's your thing to think about. But uh,

1940
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a valid decision to make.

1941
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 1: It's a valid it's a valid thing to make. Whatever

1942
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 1: decision gives you the most peace personally, whatever decision that is,

1943
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 1: that's that's that's kind of what I think.

1944
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's just I'm kind of stuck in limbo. Now.

1945
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 5: That's why I ask, because this will all change as

1946
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 5: soon as, you know, my stepmom gets back from you know,

1947
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 5: her honeymoon and they actually have a conversation with her

1948
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 5: about it. It's just I'm just stuck in limbo right now.

1949
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 5: I know there's an end in sight. It just sucks waiting.

1950
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 1: How long is your husband deployed for.

1951
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 5: He's deployed for nine months and we're in the home

1952
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 5: stretch right now, so he's coming home soon. It's just

1953
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 5: I can't disclose exactly where he is, but he's summer

1954
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 5: very hot and is the political pisi there is not good.

1955
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 5: So it's also like he's dealing with a lot of

1956
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,799
Speaker 5: stress there, and it's like, fuck, I don't want another

1957
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 5: thing on his plate.

1958
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah. Well, like I like, here's like at

1959
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 1: the very I'm sorry that this this is suck. This

1960
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 1: sucks that this is stressing all of you. You ate

1961
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:15,600
Speaker 1: like you shouldn't be the one to be bearing the

1962
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 1: brunt of all the stress of the situation, you know

1963
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, if you want, like again, I

1964
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 1: just you if you want to like, how do I

1965
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 1: say this? Like you just because you're sitting here like, oh,

1966
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 1: I'm in this situation and I don't want to stare

1967
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 1: the family drama. I don't want my husband to get

1968
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 1: up sat like I I if if you can, this

1969
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 1: might be like I really I hope this doesn't sound

1970
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 1: like reductive, but like do you, like you like you're

1971
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 1: allowed to shed the stress, you know, if you if

1972
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:01,440
Speaker 1: you I really hope, I really hope this isn't sound reductive,

1973
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:07,720
Speaker 1: but like if you you're allowed to like decide that

1974
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 1: you're not gonna let this stress you out and just

1975
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 1: be and just like live your life if that's what

1976
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: you want to do, you know, is that does that

1977
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 1: make sense?

1978
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 5: Do you mean as like don't tell anyone or just.

1979
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 1: Like no, no, that's that's not that's not.

1980
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 5: M Is this like a more living let go type deal, like,

1981
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 5: oh what happened? It sucks, but I gotta move on

1982
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 5: with my life.

1983
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 1: It's in the past, not necessarily, no, but again for you,

1984
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 1: like okay, like it's just what I said earlier, Like

1985
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,799
Speaker 1: I I think I think you shouldn't be the one

1986
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: to like deal with the stress of the situation and

1987
01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 1: whatever decision because look, I mean for some people It's

1988
01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 1: like if you were to be if you were like, no,

1989
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 1: I want to like confront my my my steck, my

1990
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,599
Speaker 1: step uncle about this. I want to tell the family.

1991
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 1: I want to deal with other things, and like that's

1992
01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 1: what's gooding Like doing that is what's gonna let me

1993
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 1: sleep at night, you know, that's what's gonna be the

1994
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: less the least stressful thing for me. Right, So like

1995
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 1: that could be for you the way of handling the

1996
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:28,719
Speaker 1: situation that is that again helps you sleep the best

1997
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 1: and is the least makes you less stressed in the

1998
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 1: long run. Right, I don't and I don't. I don't

1999
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 1: know you, and I don't know your brain, and I

2000
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 1: don't know how you think about ship, but like think

2001
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 1: about like I would, I would just throw all my

2002
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:42,719
Speaker 1: options on the table and go which in the long

2003
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 1: what in the long term helps me, he gives me

2004
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,240
Speaker 1: the less amount of stress in the long term. Or

2005
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 1: you could be like or if you wanted to, you

2006
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: could be like, look, I just I'm just gonna fucking

2007
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 1: like minimize my interactions with this fucking guy over the years,

2008
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna not think about it, and I'm to

2009
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 1: my husband's gonna come back and we're gonna live our

2010
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 1: lives together, and I'm just gonna whatever not make this

2011
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 1: whole thing, and maybe maybe that's what helps you sleep

2012
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:12,719
Speaker 1: at night more, you know. But I'm just saying that's

2013
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:17,759
Speaker 1: the lens. That is the lens through which I would

2014
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: look at all of your options. I'm not telling you.

2015
01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not going to tell you to

2016
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 1: live and let live because I'm not and i'm not

2017
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm not. I don't that's I'm not

2018
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: gonna give you advice on what exactly you should do.

2019
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 1: But I will say that as you're looking, as you're

2020
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 1: kind of thinking about, oh I could maybe I'll do

2021
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 1: it like that, the lens through which I would look

2022
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 1: at all those options is, well, what's gonna give me

2023
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 1: the most piece? I would say, Okay, okay, does that

2024
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 1: make sense?

2025
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, yeah, this is it's already I've already I'm

2026
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:00,479
Speaker 5: going to therapy on Tuesday. This is something I'm definitely

2027
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 5: unpacking with my therapist. So we'll see what's the best

2028
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 5: decision is. I don't know. My my mother in law,

2029
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 5: my husband's mother kind of just wants to sweep it

2030
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:22,719
Speaker 5: under the rug and not do anything, but I'm like, oh,

2031
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 5: I don't really know, and I have right right, right, right,

2032
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:29,440
Speaker 5: So there's just a lot of different avenues.

2033
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So if your mother in law says that okay,

2034
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 1: and then it's like how does that make you feel?

2035
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 1: Does that make you be like okay? Like when your

2036
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 1: mother in law says that, do you do you feel okay? Great? Hoof?

2037
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with any of this crap

2038
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 1: or do you feel like that doesn't sit right with me?

2039
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 1: You know? And I don't. I don't know the answer

2040
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 1: to that, but like that's an important that's an important

2041
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 1: feeling to like recognize, you know, like which what what

2042
01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 1: what option is going to make you go okay? Cool?

2043
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 1: You know?

2044
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:07,920
Speaker 5: M hm No, I felt guilt because my thing is,

2045
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 5: even though it might you know, pain my husband to

2046
01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:14,760
Speaker 5: hear it, I believe in like a completely honest relationship

2047
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 5: with open communication. So I don't know. I don't know. Uh,

2048
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 5: I'm kind of on the I don't want to start

2049
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 5: a family pot.

2050
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 1: But like tell, well, can I tell can I say

2051
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: this to also? Like again, I'm whatever whatever it is

2052
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 1: that you decide to do moving forward. When you tell

2053
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 1: your husband, I know that you're saying that, like your

2054
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 1: husband is like a hot head guy. But like with

2055
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 1: your husband, when he comes back and you decide whether

2056
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: whether you know, like let's say, let's say you tell

2057
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 1: him about it, right and he goes Let's say let's

2058
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 1: say you tell him about it, and and you're like,

2059
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm fucking pissed off with this guy. Fucking and then

2060
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 1: your husband's like, yeah, fuck this guy, and your husband

2061
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 1: like whatever. But let's say you tell him about it,

2062
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 1: and then and then you're like, hey, this happens, but

2063
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 1: I just I it would make me feel the most

2064
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 1: peaceful to not make it a big deal, like what whatever,

2065
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:21,560
Speaker 1: whatever way that you want to go about it, your

2066
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 1: husband should be supportive of you. So if you go

2067
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:29,640
Speaker 1: and you say, I don't want to make a big

2068
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 1: deal out of it, your husband should be like, Okay,

2069
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,120
Speaker 1: I respect that, I respect your decision to go about

2070
01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:37,000
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck got to do this. I mean, he's

2071
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 1: gonna have his own opinions about shit, of course, and

2072
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 1: it's up to you whether or not you wanna take him.

2073
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 1: But like your husband, whatever, again, whatever you decide is

2074
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: the thing that makes the way about going about the

2075
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 1: situation that makes you feel the most peaceful. I think

2076
01:55:55,040 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 1: your husband should uh be supportive of view and when

2077
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 1: whatever that decision is, I would say that's I think

2078
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 1: that's a healthy relationship. But I also I don't I

2079
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 1: could be wrong. Maybe maybe maybe it's healthier for him

2080
01:56:12,440 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 1: to challenge. I don't know. I'm I'm I'm I'm a gecko.

2081
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 5: No, he he is a hot head, but his his

2082
01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 5: initial reaction would be anger, not necessary, no, not at me,

2083
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 5: but like anger in general. But I know him, and

2084
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 5: he took an hour or two to cool off, and

2085
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 5: he'll be okay. He respects my decisions. Okay, he knows,

2086
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 5: he knows that I'm the boss of the house.

2087
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:52,160
Speaker 1: So very nice, very yes, how is uh, how is

2088
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 1: life going?

2089
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 5: Otherwise it's going really well. I live in this house,

2090
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 5: so it's starting to get super fucking hot. But I

2091
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 5: started I started running last summer and I finally hit

2092
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 5: my goal of running a sub thirty five k. So

2093
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 5: that's like, that was my big goal. And my dog

2094
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 5: actually runs with me. I have a black lab she's

2095
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 5: about a year old and she's about sixty five to

2096
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 5: seventy pounds, and we just run. We just run around

2097
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 5: the neighborhood and run around town and it's so fun.

2098
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 5: It's so fun. But now that I do struggle with

2099
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 5: a lot of mental health issues, you know, particularly depression

2100
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 5: and anxiety, and this is one thing that I discussed,

2101
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 5: you know, with my family, with my therapist, like exercise

2102
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 5: gives you on doorphins, you know, exercise be happy. Basically,

2103
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 5: exercise makes you happy. So it's definitely working and it's

2104
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 5: made the time go by fast. And then I'm also

2105
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 5: really excited for our wedding because so only the parents know,

2106
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 5: only the parents and our family know that we eloped,

2107
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:11,880
Speaker 5: so this is gonna be like a welcome home party

2108
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 5: and then surprise, it's a wedding. We're getting married or

2109
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 5: we'relready married. So I'm really really excited for that.

2110
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 1: Very nice, very nice? Are you?

2111
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 4: Then?

2112
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2113
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 1: Go ahead?

2114
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:28,120
Speaker 3: No?

2115
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:28,600
Speaker 1: Go ahead?

2116
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm just debating on what dress I want

2117
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 5: to buy because have you seen Star Wars?

2118
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, wild I haven't seen the New Ones? Are

2119
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 1: you a big Star Wars? Fuck?

2120
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 5: The New Ones? No prequel series?

2121
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:45,200
Speaker 1: Cool?

2122
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 5: Patna wait?

2123
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 1: I thought everyone? I thought everyone hates the prequel series.

2124
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 5: No, oh, I love the prequel series. I don't like

2125
01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 5: the sequels.

2126
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:54,840
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, go ahead.

2127
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 5: No, no, but I want to I want to commission

2128
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Speaker 5: someone to make me Padme's lake dress in episode two,

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Speaker 5: whenever they were on.

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Speaker 4: Naboo, I you I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: It's like this yellow, pink and purple lilac color ombre.

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Speaker 5: It's like the big floey dress that she has. Maybe

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Speaker 5: maybe not, but I don't know. We're we're going for

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Speaker 5: a tropical game because my husband's uh, his family's from

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Speaker 5: the Caribbean, and we're trying to do something like with

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Speaker 5: that theme, make it feel like a vacation whenever he

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Speaker 5: comes back home. But I'm like, I feel like I

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Speaker 5: want to stick out, stick out, like a sore throughout

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Speaker 5: sore thumb. But the thing is his family's all star

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Speaker 5: wars nerds, So I think it'll be okay.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you like, like, yeah, oh yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: your wedding, fucking ye the space dress up as super

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Speaker 3: Mario who cares?

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Speaker 5: No, that'll be that'll be dope as fuck, that'll be dope.

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Speaker 1: What's your name again, June Bugs? June Bug? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: like the Super Smash Brothers melee player.

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Speaker 5: Or maybe maybe I'll dress up like them?

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Speaker 2: Who do they?

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Speaker 5: I don't know anything about Super Smash Bros. But who

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Speaker 5: do they who do they name? Who do they play?

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Speaker 1: They play Donkey Kong?

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Speaker 5: Oh, you know what, I'll dress up as Donkey Kong

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Speaker 5: for my wedding.

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Speaker 1: That would be cool, man, that'd be cool. And then

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Speaker 1: your husband can dress up like Diddy Kong and then

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Speaker 1: you can be like, Yeah, I'm the fucking boss of

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Speaker 1: the house, dude, I'm the big Kong.

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Speaker 5: I'm also taller than him. He's five to one. I'm

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Speaker 5: five four.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, I like that. I like it good. I like it.

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Speaker 1: I like it good. I like a good woman taller

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Speaker 1: than the man relationship. Every time I'm every time I'm

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Speaker 1: on the Uh, Like when I'm like walking through this

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Speaker 1: down the street and I see a couple and the

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Speaker 1: ladies taller than the guy like pump my fist a

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Speaker 1: little bit, I'm like, that's awesome.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, fucking short kings the night.

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Speaker 1: Rock and roll, rock and roll, Junebug. Is there anything

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Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people of the

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Speaker 1: computer before we go?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Uh, if you're a short guy, please pursue taller women.

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Speaker 5: We like it. We do like it.

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Speaker 1: They exist fellas they exist.

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Speaker 5: They do. I'm married to one beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I'm married beautiful, take care of Jim Buggle, see around

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Speaker 1: the universe. Congratulations on a on a lovely life.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, see you later, by bye.

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Speaker 1: There we go. It's for every see listen. If you're

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Speaker 1: if you're five to one, if you're a five to

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Speaker 1: one guy and you think you're doomed, there there there

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02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:59,600
Speaker 1: could be hope. That's uh, that's actually what the First

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Speaker 1: Star Worries is about. That's why they call it a

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Speaker 1: new Hope. It's about a five to one guy who

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Speaker 1: gets married to a to a five four lady never

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Speaker 1: goes on the line taking your phone calls. Every night,

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Speaker 1: the repe goes to his side. He's teaching you a

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Speaker 1: loud in the of your life, but he's not really

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Speaker 1: an expert.