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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 1: Asneve Corksian of Bedowin. I'm just playing a long wey,

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Speaker 1: I just playing.

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Speaker 2: In lone with you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Norah Jones with me as always a Sarah Oda.

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Speaker 1: Here I am me and my Oda. Today's show is

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Speaker 1: super fun. We have Asnive Corksian of Bedwin. She goes

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Speaker 1: by Bedwin. She does. She's great. She's so sweet.

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Speaker 3: She's a very calming presence, yes, very soothing, soothing and

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Speaker 3: yet like there's an intensity to her. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: feel like that plays into her music too.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like.

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Speaker 3: Mellow, but you know, a little intense.

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Speaker 1: We had so much fun doing this show. We talked

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Speaker 1: a lot about her upbringing. She's lived in a lot

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Speaker 1: of countries. She's grew up in Saudi Arabia. She came

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Speaker 1: to Houston and Boston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting background. I feel like the fact that

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Speaker 3: she moved around so much like she draws from all

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Speaker 3: those different experiences in her music and you can hear it.

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Speaker 1: It makes it so unique. She's got very unique music.

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Speaker 1: I actually I've met her through Gus Seifert. He used

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Speaker 1: to play bass with me and he's an old friend

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Speaker 1: of mine and he's a big part of her project,

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Speaker 1: and he produced the first two records and he co

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Speaker 1: produced the third record. So I've met her through Gus,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't really know her. So this was really

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Speaker 1: fun for me getting to know somebody through doing this.

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Speaker 1: I felt like she's my butt after you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And also it sounded like you guys have been

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Speaker 3: singing together for years and years.

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Speaker 1: Her songs are really complex in a way. The chords

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Speaker 1: are very It took me a minute to get in there,

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Speaker 1: but it was so fun singing with her. It had

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Speaker 1: a nice we jelled, I thought, so for sure. Hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy the show. Here she is as Parkasian of Bedouin.

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Speaker 4: M hm h m hm h.

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Speaker 2: M hm.

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Speaker 5: H m hm.

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Speaker 6: Hm, walking circles.

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Speaker 5: Round the room playing voices from the same O tunes.

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Speaker 5: When you go, When you go, drag my finger around

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Speaker 5: the wrist, drag around the phantom limb, when You're gone.

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Speaker 4: When you go, Ain't it a shame?

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Speaker 2: Always the same old game with face? I love it,

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Speaker 2: you love how much I love you?

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Speaker 7: Living thy beak.

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Speaker 2: A fool in love.

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Speaker 5: The more I do, the less it does. When You're gone.

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Speaker 4: When you go am a shame.

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Speaker 2: Always the same.

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Speaker 1: Old game we day.

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Speaker 8: I love him, you love how much I love him?

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Speaker 4: And it is shame?

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Speaker 2: Always the same old.

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Speaker 1: Game we play.

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Speaker 8: I love you.

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Speaker 2: You love how much I love you?

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Speaker 8: I love you, you love how much I love you?

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Speaker 8: When you God, when you go, I love you so much.

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Speaker 1: H I love that song thank You. It's beautiful and

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Speaker 1: the chords are really hard.

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Speaker 9: It's so wild to hear Norah Jones say that I

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Speaker 9: have no idea what I mean. I could hardly name.

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Speaker 1: Them to you. I don't. Well, that's what I love

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Speaker 1: about it because you can tell that you just played

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Speaker 1: it because it sounds good.

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Speaker 9: Probably that's definitely what happened, Yes, exactly how.

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Speaker 1: It's not that they're not logical, but they're not something

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Speaker 1: I've encountered before. Really yeah, which is why they're special.

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Speaker 9: I think thank You, Yeah, I mean I think I

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Speaker 9: just like what Probably what happened with that song is

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Speaker 9: I just like discovered a new shape and then I

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Speaker 9: just like, you know, brought it up the neck or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a lot of that that's beautiful. I

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Speaker 1: love that. I mean, that's my favorite kind of songs. Really, yeah.

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's definitely the approach I have with most

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Speaker 9: even tried to like protect a little bit. Like that

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Speaker 9: every year I'm like, should I take guitar lessons?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know. I mean yeah, I mostly just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you are. I mean what the way you

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Speaker 1: I've played with guitar players who are great, but I'm like,

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Speaker 1: can you just see this little simple finger pick? Quiet?

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Speaker 9: It's funny that you say that, Like, I definitely like

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Speaker 9: Gus is very encouraging.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, but you have a good feel,

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Speaker 9: That's nice to hear. Beautiful, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: You know what I would say about the beginner's mind

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Speaker 1: thing is that only take guitar lessons if you get

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Speaker 1: try to play another instrument. And that's some serious beginner's mind. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think I've actually wanted to try more piano writing.

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Speaker 9: And I actually started on the piano when I.

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Speaker 1: Was like five. Oh you did, yeah, okay, And my

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Speaker 9: Really really strict and it kind of you know, worked

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Speaker 1: You know, that's the tough part about that. I know

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Speaker 9: Oh really yeah, gosh, man, if my mom would put

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Speaker 9: got really excited by it and I was like kind

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Speaker 9: to know what, Wow, that's the first thing to get Yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's like, oh, yeah, this is the thing she wants

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Speaker 9: me to do the most. It's the thing that I'll

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Speaker 9: quit instantly. Yeah, And as soon as, so as soon

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Speaker 9: and it was like, this is my chance. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 9: be an assholes high yeah, break her heart. They tried

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Speaker 9: to buy me an electronic piano after that, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Just like never yeah, but that doesn't really feel the

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Speaker 1: It was too rich. Yeah, you need piano, right.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know much about your history, but where

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was raised in Saudi Arabia okay?

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Speaker 1: Where and Riad? Okay?

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Speaker 9: But my family's Armenian.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a lot. It's a lot. There's a

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and yeah I was there. I was in Saudi

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Speaker 9: until I was ten. My family won the green card lottery.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 9: Yeah wow, yeah, it's very unlikely. My parents were actually

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Speaker 9: trying to move us to Canada and my dad couldn't

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Speaker 1: Citizensah, you never know, Yeah, and you got it, and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to move to America. It was like

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Speaker 1: Canada is better and now yeah, yeah, well.

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Speaker 9: I kind of but he said something so profound. He

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Speaker 9: was like, America's not a country, it's a business.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, isn't that crazy? Very profound.

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Speaker 9: As a kid, I didn't understand that. Yeah, of course,

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Speaker 9: I'm very ungrateful for the citizenship.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure where did you guys say? We started in Houston?

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Speaker 9: Oh no, I'm sorry, Boston, Boston, Boston for a year, Houston, Texas, Houston,

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Speaker 9: Texas through middle school and high schools.

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Speaker 1: So that's the like formative Texas period for you because

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Speaker 1: I'm from Dallas.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, So yeah, I had a love hate relationship

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Speaker 9: like I don't know, the arts more like the arts

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Speaker 1: Get to and you weren't close.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and so I didn't, like, I feel like I

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Speaker 9: I Houston is such a huge, incredible, yeah, huge sprawling

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Speaker 1: Think Dallas is very similar in that way. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: were very similar. They hate each other, but they're their rival. Really.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So now I I love Houston when I go

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Speaker 9: but yeah, the Urbs. It was deep in the burbs.

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Speaker 9: And as soon as I finished high school, I be

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Speaker 9: just kind of I hopped around. I used college as

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Speaker 9: went to back to Austin for ut And yes.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. Did your parents were your parents like what

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Speaker 1: you were enrolled in college? And I yes, was it

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Speaker 9: Just kind of I would go until the money ran

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Speaker 9: next semester, I would basically just take some time off

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Speaker 1: Wow. And what did you study though? Did you study?

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Speaker 9: Ultimately got my degree in sound design, So you got

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Speaker 9: your degree? Yeah, I did at SKAD and Savannah, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: And what's sound design like engineering?

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Speaker 9: Basically, like it's geared towards film, so most it's essentially

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Speaker 9: post production for film and TV. And there's like some

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Speaker 9: different classes in there, like there there was a music

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Speaker 9: engineering class course that we had to take, and there

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Speaker 9: was like sound art, which was really really cool, like

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Speaker 9: interactive sound and stuff like that that was pretty heady. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: and then there was stuff like music editing, which actually,

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Speaker 9: well I was most interested in because before I was touring,

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Speaker 9: I was music editing for composers.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's that's neat.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. I loved it. I mean it's like it was

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Speaker 9: that when I got a record deal and so I

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I really liked it. When did you pick

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Speaker 4: And you did?

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Speaker 1: You always sing yeah okay for fun? Yeah, but it

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Speaker 1: felt good. Yeah, it felt like natural for sure.

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Speaker 9: I think like my earliest memory of singing is well,

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Speaker 1: Can we do solitary daughter? Sure? Yeah, this song is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: This is one of my favorites. All right, I'm just

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Speaker 7: With the conviction of the woman you made me.

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Speaker 4: A fine.

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Speaker 7: Blades of course, from the eyeland you led me.

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Speaker 5: Everything in every drug word. Though I'm not an iland,

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Speaker 7: It pushes at pools.

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Speaker 1: I don't pay the rent.

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Speaker 10: I don't need the walls to bury my grade. I

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Speaker 5: I don't need the objects to keep on upon. I

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Speaker 2: When it's pricing, I pay in.

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Speaker 8: My holy friend.

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Speaker 7: It plishes, it pulls me. I don't pay rent.

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Speaker 11: I don't need the.

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Speaker 7: The charcoal and the dancing shadow.

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Speaker 1: I love that song so much. I love how your voice.

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Speaker 1: it's so so. I was talking about your accent. There's

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Speaker 1: you I don't know why. It just reminded me. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: Because you came when you were younger over here, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Let's chill where we are. Yeah, just like more opportunities

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Speaker 1: I realize that that I'm very satisfied with less. I

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Speaker 1: for sure, it's too much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the importance things, the important things. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I figured out that music is important to me in

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Speaker 9: Yeah, have you ever been at a time where you

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Speaker 1: Yes, well my first album because it exploded so big

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Speaker 1: helped me become successful, like interviews and that's all great,

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00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: But there was a tipping point for me where it

443
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: got to be like, I'd rather just quit if it's

444
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: distressful the time. Wow, So I just scaled back. Yeah, yeah,

445
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: I was lucky. So yeah, you know, I felt lucky

446
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: to have that luxury. But yeah, yeah, you know there's

447
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: a balance. We're lucky to do what we do. So absolutely,

448
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: that's that's what I keep telling my kids that you know,

449
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: if you can find something that you love and that

450
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: becomes your job, that's the luckiest thing, you know. I

451
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: mean not most people don't have that. Yeah for sure.

452
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: I think like.

453
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 9: Music to me is ultimately just how I like.

454
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: To pass time.

455
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 9: Yes, It's like I think like if you were to

456
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 9: ask anybody, like how do you like to pass the time?

457
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 9: Like what if you could just do that? And I

458
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 9: mean that would be ideal. I didn't exactly expect it

459
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 9: to be the case or a choice, and it still

460
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 9: definitely comes with its struggles. It's still like an attempt

461
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 9: at that.

462
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: You know. Well, now is different because you have to

463
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: be your own pr show on social media, so it's

464
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: it's completely different. Paul Game. Yeah, jeez. Yeah, stressful for

465
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: people because artists aren't naturally Most artists I know aren't

466
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: naturally self promoting all the time. You know, Oh my god,

467
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: they're usually kind of introspective and you know, I know there,

468
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: it's weird. It's so weird.

469
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's really kind of chipped away at this

470
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 9: like sacred thing a little bit. And I not to

471
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 9: like make it holier than that or something, but it

472
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 9: just it is something that I feel like should be protected.

473
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's the thing. It happens to a lot

474
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, it should be protected.

475
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, if there's so much about that and the music

476
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 9: and your in songwriting and your relationship to music and

477
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 9: you're just life that is like feels so personal and

478
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 9: close to you, close to the chest, and it's it's

479
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 9: weird that and in me it's a very small scale,

480
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 9: you know, but it still feels like weird to be

481
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 9: expected to just share overshare constantly.

482
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Well, I was talking to a friend this week about

483
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: that and how you just expected to speak your truth

484
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 1: all the time now and it's like, well, what happened

485
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: to writing songs about it and being a little mysterious.

486
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: It's like my favorite musician for sure, I don't know

487
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: everything about the ins and outs of their life. Yeah,

488
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: I kind of don't want to because I might like

489
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: they're poetry less, you know, you don't need to. Yeah, well,

490
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: it's like if I know how literal something is, it

491
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: takes the sort of specialness out of it to me.

492
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: So it's a real weird thing now. It's just the

493
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: trend nowadays, and there is I get the need to trend. Yeah, well,

494
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: I get the need for authenticity after maybe things not

495
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: feeling authentic for people. But it is a weird It's

496
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: just a weird pendulum, I think.

497
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm definitely always trying to strike a balance.

498
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: It's hard because I do.

499
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 9: There's so many many great things about it, so totally

500
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 9: great things about social media.

501
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: You can curate it to be exactly what you want

502
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: it to be.

503
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 9: There's so many things I learn, But I hate being

504
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 9: like I like consuming.

505
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: It, Yeah, I don't like producing it. Well, producing it

506
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: is stressful. Yeah, and when you produce it because you

507
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: know you have to, then it feels unnatural.

508
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 9: And like saying things when you have nothing to say,

509
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 9: Like I don't always have something to say. Just because

510
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 9: I've written songs doesn't mean I need to poke my

511
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 9: head out every day and say something.

512
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: It's so hard to tell people what your songs are about.

513
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it can be. It can be some

514
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: people are really into it. I've talked to some people,

515
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that songs about this, Like wow, I would

516
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: never just say that because I Sometimes it's because it's

517
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: too personal. Sometimes it's because I'm embarrassed that it's about

518
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: my phone, but they don't know that, and I don't

519
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: want them to know that. Yeah, totally or whatever it

520
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: might be.

521
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, I go back and forth, like feeling very private

522
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 9: and feeling very like, you you know, leave it open

523
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 9: to interpretation between that and like laying it on the

524
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 9: table because but it's just again, just what feels natural.

525
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: That's all it should be. Yeah, but it's hard. Yeah.

526
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: Did you make all your albums with gusts so far?

527
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, this last one was kind of more of a

528
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 9: co production. I started it more alone, and it.

529
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: Was like it started as like a guitar vocal.

530
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 9: It was just going to be this really casual thing,

531
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 9: and then we just had so much time. At first

532
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 9: he was just going to mix it, and by the

533
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 9: time I brought it him, he was just like, let's

534
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 9: just keep throwing stuff at it.

535
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: And then did it start before lockdown?

536
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 9: No way, After like tourists you know, started getting canceled. Yeah,

537
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 9: I thought, okay, well I'll just work on the next record,

538
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 9: I guess, and I I got to a point where

539
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 9: I realized that I didn't want to like lean on

540
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 9: old material anymore, and I wanted to start from scratch.

541
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 9: But as I was like going through all my old

542
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 9: files and like sitting down with like old like voice

543
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 9: memos and stuff, I was like, I have so much

544
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 9: stuff that I don't want.

545
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: To throw away. Okay, so that's where all this stuff

546
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: came from. So yeah, well they become like old friends, right,

547
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I absolutely.

548
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 9: I just I felt like it would be criminal to

549
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 9: just like, yeah, you know, I don't know. And also

550
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 9: it just felt so easy to just release them, you know,

551
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 9: if anybody cared, like, here, here's more stuff where that

552
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 9: came from. Yeah, And so it just started like as

553
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 9: an offering kind of thing. I was just going to

554
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 9: put it online one day and just be like here,

555
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 9: this is here if you want to hear it. And

556
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 9: then one thing turned to another and it just became

557
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 9: kind of more of a proper record, which I never

558
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 9: expected it to be.

559
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: It's beautiful.

560
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 9: Thank you so much?

561
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: Is the wave from it? Yeah? Yeah, so this next

562
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: song is from it? So how old is this song?

563
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: The well the seeds of it? How old is this

564
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: song beginning of this song? This song is probably about

565
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: like maybe like eight years old? Oh wow? And was

566
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: it finished or did you finish it for the record?

567
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: This one was finished.

568
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 9: There's a few that I had to tweak, but this

569
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 9: one was pretty much done. Yeah, there's some this like

570
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 9: the oldest song is about fifteen years old, oh wow

571
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 9: on the record, Yeah, which is so wild.

572
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: That's rad. But it's kind of like it's like hanging

573
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: out with your younger self.

574
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 9: Absolutely, that's what I think. That's totally what I've been saying.

575
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 9: And it feels like it makes me appreciate that person

576
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 9: because like.

577
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: Doesn't it make you want to hugger and say, hey,

578
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: you're doing really good?

579
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

580
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 9: Like may it go like you have no reason to

581
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 9: lock yourself in the room and write this song like,

582
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 9: but you did it and thank you.

583
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's so weird how we're different people, like different phases.

584
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, I mean it's given me kind of It's

585
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 9: it's made me really gentle with that like younger self.

586
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: I think it's so easy to look back and like

587
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: cringe at your younger self.

588
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 9: But I tried as much as I could to like

589
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 9: lean into that that I don't know, appreciation ingratitude of

590
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 9: that person who like you know, didn't know that's great

591
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 9: what she was doing and you know hardly still does,

592
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 9: but like just keeps.

593
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: The more time goes on, the easier it is to

594
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: embrace that younger self. Yeah. Yeah, you have to get

595
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: some space from it first.

596
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely, definitely.

597
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: Let's see the song, Okay, cool? The wave.

598
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 6: Well off tomorrows FO for you.

599
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: Not read, you.

600
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 7: May as well be to see.

601
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 6: It teas believes.

602
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: Of days come by.

603
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 13: RENI and looking to Scott, I've tried to borrow.

604
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: I cannot contain.

605
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 7: The way I feel for you or anything.

606
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 4: I ride a.

607
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 14: Way, Bells of shallow.

608
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 15: Ring, the horizon, sky, blue sky, burning pain, those.

609
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: The fire, silence.

610
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: Are you waiting well.

611
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 7: As I can do it, stay.

612
00:38:47,719 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 13: Out from this silence. I cannot contain with five already

613
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 13: say I ride away, I break my pones to show live.

614
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: U s I break my heart.

615
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: The song is beautiful, I am, and the video is

616
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: really cool.

617
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 9: Oh, thank you for the beach. Yeah, it was very

618
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 9: very d I.

619
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: Y yeah, but I mean that's what's cool.

620
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 9: I learned video editing in this campaign.

621
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

622
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 9: Do you use eyemovie or it was a lot of eyemovie, Yeah,

623
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 9: lots and lots of use her friendly it is. And

624
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 9: then I had to use I wanted to do those

625
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 9: like karaoke color wipes on the lyrics that I had

626
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 9: to use Premiere to do that.

627
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: That's cool. So you did it all.

628
00:40:59,719 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

629
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: I had a lot of help.

630
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 9: My friend helped teach me my way around Premiere. Uh yeah,

631
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 9: but it was very spent a lot of hours in

632
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 9: the coffee shop working on that, logged in a lot

633
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 9: of hours at the office where I call the office.

634
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: That's funny, it's beautiful, Thank you. I love the words

635
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: on this too.

636
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 9: It felt it made a lot of sense to release it.

637
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 9: Like first, it just it's a song about grieving, and

638
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 9: so it just felt like this is the right thing

639
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 9: to share first. It's just yeah, made sense felt fitting.

640
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: I read something you said about it and about grief,

641
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: and it's something that's taken me forever to learn. How

642
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: you have to sit in whatever that feeling is instead

643
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: of running from it. Yeah. I mean that's like a

644
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: therapy one on one that I finally learned. But it's

645
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: crazy how you go your home life without realizing that.

646
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 9: Yeah. I definitely turned a corner when I realized that,

647
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 9: like my anxiety was really just my fear of having anxiety. Yeah,

648
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 9: and as soon as I was okay with having anxiety,

649
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 9: I didn't have anxiety. It was It's crazy, It blew

650
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 9: my mind.

651
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: That's a very mind blowing thing. Yeah, to overcome and realize, gosh,

652
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: and helpful for so many young people, Oh my god.

653
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, so that definitely that's a lot of what

654
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 9: I mean. When I went I wrote I Ride the Wave.

655
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 9: It was just like, you know, encouraging myself to or

656
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 9: and reminding myself to just like just let something wash

657
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 9: over you.

658
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

659
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: It's a good lesson. Yeah, it took a second, but

660
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: I got there, And do you surve.

661
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 9: I've tried once I actually took get up once, but

662
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 9: that was a very long time ago.

663
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: It's pretty fine.

664
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 9: I've body bordered.

665
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

666
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 9: Actually, what is it called when you're is it boogie

667
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 9: boarding on they boarding?

668
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like when you're on their body the belly. Yeahah,

669
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: that's fun. Yeah, you're not as quite as haphazard.

670
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, a lot more stable.

671
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: It's funny living in California. I I'm like, does everybody

672
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: go to the beach all the time? You don't, though?

673
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: Right in La it's weird. It's like another city away.

674
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: It's really far and traffic is bad, right yeah, because

675
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: you're east.

676
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, it ends up. I mean you know, it could

677
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 9: be like an hour. So I really don't do much

678
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 9: of that, which is kind of a shame. But eh,

679
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 9: yeah that's fine.

680
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: You go when you can. Yeah.

681
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 9: I'm not a huge beach person though.

682
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: You're not, are you? I wasn't when I was young,

683
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: but I am now. Oh really?

684
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, do you go on the East coast.

685
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: A little bit. I'm not a lay on the beach person.

686
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm give me all the shade and get me

687
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: in that water. Oh so I feel like a productive

688
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm not. I'm not technically a beach person. I'm

689
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: more of an ocean lover waves. I love being underwater,

690
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: and really I love getting smacked with a wave really,

691
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: I mean not too hard, but yeah, you know, just

692
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: like pushed and yeah. Yeah, when you were growing up,

693
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: did your parents play Armenium music? Oh yeah, we're so.

694
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: Is that sort of deep within your your bones? I mean,

695
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: I can't tell if I can hear that, but I

696
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: think I can. Oh really, maybe I'm imagining it.

697
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 9: I wrote a song in Armenian for my first record,

698
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 9: and it's like a bonus track, and that was the

699
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 9: first time I've ever done anything like that. There's a

700
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 9: lot of similarities between, like, you know, all Middle Eastern

701
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 9: music and Armenian music tends to fall into that, although

702
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 9: it is kind of it can be kind of Eastern

703
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 9: European feeling too. But yeah, I mean I don't know

704
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 9: that I'm known Encyclopedia for it by any means.

705
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: No, but you grew up within it.

706
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 9: It's like in my porest kind of yeah, and I

707
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 9: love it. I've always actually wanted to do like an

708
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 9: Armenian record, even if it's just like covers, because the

709
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 9: music can be so beautiful.

710
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: That would be cool. Yeah, I would listen to that.

711
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: I would love to do that.

712
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 9: That's something I would I was kind of thinking about

713
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 9: doing next that and like maybe like Nick Drake covers

714
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 9: or something, but oh yeah, we'll see. I don't know

715
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 9: if that'll pan out.

716
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: There's another thing that I hear in your guitar playing

717
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: and the way you sing is like very Brazilian music.

718
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: Are you I love Did you listen to a lot

719
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: of that?

720
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 9: I mean not growing up by any means, but recently,

721
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 9: but like, yeah, I.

722
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: Mean for sure, I really hear that. I love it. Yeah,

723
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: I love that stuff.

724
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 9: And it's like sometimes I feel like maybe too much,

725
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 9: like barring from it too much or something.

726
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the thing. I think. I think

727
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: you go for it. Definitely. It always morphs its way

728
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: into something different, for sure.

729
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's always this like layer of interpretation.

730
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love it. Yeah, I love that stuff too. Yeah.

731
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: That song especially kind of reminded me.

732
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 9: Oh really, yeah, I never thought of it that way.

733
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has it has a something about it. I'm

734
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: not even specifically like a certain but just the way

735
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: you play the guitar and saying, m yeah, I love it.

736
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 9: I play guitar so softly yeah, and I'm like the

737
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 9: engineer's worst nightmare.

738
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: I know you, but your rhythmic so it has that

739
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: what is your guitar there.

740
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 9: It's called a Martin Colletti. It's not a Martin. It's

741
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 9: like this small company that no longer exists, that manufactured

742
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 9: guitars in Czechoslovakia.

743
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: It's like from the thirties. It could dissolve it any mo.

744
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: It's beautiful and it looks really old.

745
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 9: It's so old, and I take it on tour with me,

746
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 9: which is I don't know if danger zone, I know,

747
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 9: super dangerous. Yeah, but I just it feels so good.

748
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 9: It's so small. It's kind of pain the ass to tune,

749
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 9: and it's like the intonation's terrible, but I just love playing.

750
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: She's worth it, She's worth it. Yeah, so beautiful. Thank you,

751
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. I like the star too.

752
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 9: I know I was thinking, like I know, I was thinking,

753
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 9: even if I got a new guitar, I'd probably like

754
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 9: try to put something like that in it again.

755
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: Thank you one of these days. I really love this song.

756
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: Thank you. And oh we played it for you years

757
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: years ago at the studio. That's right, Yeah, before it

758
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: was that like when you were recording it.

759
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 9: I kind of feel like before it'd probably been recorded

760
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 9: for a while, but maybe it was before it was released, yeah,

761
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 9: or maybe like as it was released.

762
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: That and I love it And the cover is on

763
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: that floor, my favorite floor to cover the album. Yes, exactly,

764
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: it's amazing. I decided that you did.

765
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 9: Oh Gus gets mad when I tell her why, Well,

766
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 9: because I think I'm like a little too proud of

767
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 9: it because I mentioned it whenever I can.

768
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: I think we should. I'm into tiles, so.

769
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 9: I'm a huge fan of like I try to model

770
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 9: it after like Victorian rugs, which were these like linoleum

771
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 9: rugs or some quotes like yeah, and so that's why

772
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 9: the checkers are so small, because usually in studios you'll

773
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 9: see like the big checkers of a linoleum uh huh.

774
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I love that floor too. I'm into that

775
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: black and white checker. Yeah, it's the best classic. I

776
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: love this song and it's kind of got a country

777
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: vibe I love too. For sure. Do you love country

778
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: music from being in Texas? Just because it's good?

779
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 9: I got you know, it has nothing to do with

780
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 9: Texas actually, because like my experience in Texas in high

781
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 9: school is mostly like.

782
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: Mean people.

783
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 9: I mean probably like top forty.

784
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: Like really rap. And you didn't feel like there was

785
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: a big country not where contingency at your school. No,

786
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: not at all. When I was in junior high or

787
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: middle school, Garth Brooks was huge, And I think I'm

788
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: a little older than you, but Garth Brooks was huge

789
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: and we used to go to this place and dance

790
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: and everybody would do like line dancing, oh yeah, and

791
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: were like tight jeans and it was very country.

792
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 9: I didn't realize that was like a thing until like

793
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 9: way after I lived in Texas oddly enough, but now

794
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 9: that you say it, like Garth Brooks was definitely like

795
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 9: a you know, there was like Garth Brooks and like

796
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 9: Faith Hill.

797
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, there was a huge country wave. Yeah, pop country. Yeah,

798
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: it's funny when you look back on that. At the time,

799
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: it seemed like such popified country. But now when you

800
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: look back, it just sounds like country music because it's

801
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: come so much further than that. Yeah, yeah, it's a

802
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: lot more popular. Yeah, it's way more. But uh, this song,

803
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just hear these like Dolly Parton

804
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: harmonies on it. So do you mind if I have

805
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: a little harmony on it. I would love that.

806
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 9: I would love nothing more than that.

807
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like do my best go to town. Well, okay,

808
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: go to Dolly Dollywood. Let's go to Dollywood.

809
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 5: Always looking for you on next time. The things I

810
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 5: want don't take time and money, Honey, you get it.

811
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 4: One of these days.

812
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 11: One of these days are nights We're going to get.

813
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 6: In and get it right.

814
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 11: One of these days.

815
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 10: If I'm talking sweet, you know to hear it.

816
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 11: It's funny, honey, if you think it's a passing face.

817
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 5: But if I feed alone in the morning, start to

818
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 5: see new shades of blue.

819
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: One of these.

820
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 10: Days, you know I'm gone to say our hearts place.

821
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: If it's the last. Indeed, if I fear I.

822
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 7: Love but feet, you may as well turn the blade.

823
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: It's a run in a honey my mouth.

824
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 4: I know for.

825
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 5: Days, but Robbins singing the same old song, and I.

826
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: Do not say it all.

827
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 6: One of these.

828
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 10: Days, you know I'm gonna say our hearts place.

829
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 6: If it's the last thing I do.

830
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 4: One of these.

831
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 10: Days, you know I'm gonna say in our hearts a place.

832
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: If it's the last thing I had do. If it's

833
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: true that I feel more for you.

834
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 6: Than you do for me.

835
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: It's studying a honey.

836
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 10: Halla has some delays because one of these days and

837
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 10: love takes flight, We're gonna get it, to get it right.

838
00:52:43,040 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 11: One of these days.

839
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: I could play that over and over. I had asked

840
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: you if there was any cover that you wanted to try,

841
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: just to throw something random in, and you sent me

842
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: this Nick Drake song. Yeah, it's beautiful.

843
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm sure you've heard it before.

844
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: I have, but I didn't know it know it? Yeah,

845
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: but I have. Do you love Nick Drake? I do? Yeah,

846
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, when did you discover him? Oh gosh,

847
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: that's a good question, Like was it during his resurgence

848
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: or did you know before his resurgence? I mean I

849
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: think it happened with a car commercial and then he

850
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: was everywhere. Oh god, it was this story of this,

851
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: you know.

852
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 9: I don't even think I think it was like even after.

853
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: That, after that. I just remember when that happened and

854
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: I was like he was everywhere and I was like, whoa,

855
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: who is this? That's right?

856
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 9: The Alkswagen Yeah commercial, it is something like that. Yeah,

857
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 9: it's definitely like a part of his story, right, Like.

858
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean, now it is it wasn't part of his

859
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: story because forty years ago I wish it was.

860
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 9: She was, you know, got to enjoy any of that,

861
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 9: I know, isn't it. Wow, it's just such a shame. Yeah,

862
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 9: it's so heartbreaking.

863
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: That like someone like that didn't realize how beloved. I know,

864
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: it's so weird.

865
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 9: It's not fair, but yeah, gosh, I don't even know

866
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 9: when I discovered him. Probably in Kentucky. I was living

867
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 9: in Kentucky. I lived with my friend and her mom

868
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 9: on a horse farm, and she had a record label

869
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 9: and was like very hip and taught me things about music.

870
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 9: I just would never have I just don't even know

871
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 9: where I would learn. Like, I mean, it definitely got like,

872
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 9: you know into British Invasion from her and Big Star

873
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 9: and all that stuff that, you know.

874
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have.

875
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 9: Discovered, Probably that she did this thing where she would

876
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 9: give her daughter and my friend like a CD for Christmas.

877
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 9: She decided that she would just like give her an

878
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 9: album a week or something wo for like, and she'd

879
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 9: like had them like locked and loaded, and there were

880
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 9: just all these bands that she grew up with and

881
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Speaker 9: she's like, you know, give them once a week so

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Speaker 9: that she'd have time to like get familiar with the

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Speaker 9: record and then she's cool. I mean, yeah, understatement, it's

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Speaker 9: like she's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Do you still keep in touch with Yeah? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just actually saw them. Sounds amazing.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, she's awesome, And so I think if I had

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Speaker 9: to guess, maybe it was one of those albums yeah,

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Speaker 9: which was really only like gosh, around that time, like

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Speaker 9: fifteen years ago or twenty twenty years maybe that's kind

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Speaker 9: of when I discovered him too. Really, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 9: know when the commercial was.

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Speaker 1: Was that around then? I just remember it because I

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Speaker 1: remember I had just moved to New York, which was

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine, so, and I remember going to

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Speaker 1: the Virgin megastore and seeing the display of the car

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Speaker 1: commercial and if you like this commercial, here's Nick Drake

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Speaker 1: for days. Oh my god, And then you know they

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Speaker 1: had all the music there. Wow. But I think my

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Speaker 1: friend had already played him for me, but I didn't quite.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember I remember it being around then. Have

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Speaker 1: you listened to like Molly Drake's his mother?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I love mom.

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Speaker 1: I love that husband's always playing that really Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so beautiful. She's got such a crazy you get where

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Speaker 1: he came from.

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Speaker 9: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And that song is like, oh god, it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: She's got that little dip that you have in your voice.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, a little cool dip? Yeah, what's that? It's

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Speaker 1: just a little dip.

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Speaker 7: It was a little dip.

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Speaker 9: Okay, I'll take it.

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Speaker 5: Who can those thoughts of Maggie change? Why she flies

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Speaker 5: or go go's out in the rain?

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Speaker 7: Where she spent? The who she see in her journey.

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Speaker 1: To the start?

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Speaker 13: Who cannother reasons for her smile?

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Speaker 7: What I had, dream, the jarah, need for mine?

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Speaker 4: The way she.

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Speaker 7: Seems a brideley color, make.

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Speaker 15: Her princess all the sky?

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Speaker 2: Who can know what happened.

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Speaker 4: In her?

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Speaker 11: Did she come from a stranger?

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Speaker 5: Her mind be along the sides, bridey colored eyes?

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Speaker 1: Tell the story.

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Speaker 5: To it?

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Speaker 2: Who can know the fox soul? Marry Jane? Why she

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Speaker 2: flies and goes out.

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Speaker 5: Raid? Well?

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Speaker 4: Where she spend?

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Speaker 2: Who she said.

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Speaker 11: In her journey?

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Speaker 4: Jose?

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Speaker 1: That was fun? That was really fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like the little Brazilian Endie. I love your singing

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Speaker 1: on that. Oh I love you, I love you, I

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Speaker 1: love it more. Thanks for doing this?

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Speaker 9: Oh my god, are you kidding? I was so stoked

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Speaker 9: when you asked me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was glad it worked out just

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Speaker 1: playing alone.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on playing along. We had so

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Speaker 1: much fun. Thanks. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love what she said about beginner's mind and how

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Speaker 3: it's just something you don't want to lose because it's

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Speaker 3: you can't get it back. Yeah, and it brings so

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Speaker 3: much sincerity to her music.

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Speaker 1: You can hear it. I agree, I know, I love that.

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Speaker 1: I love having these epiphanies. Yeah. Well, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed the show. Yeah, see you next time.

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Speaker 1: I mean hear you next time. Smile you later. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening.

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Speaker 3: new episode.

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Speaker 1: Today's show was recorded by Justin Stanley at Stella Sound

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Speaker 1: Studio in Los Angeles. The music was mixed by Jamie Landry.

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Speaker 1: It was edited and produced by Sarah Oda, with additional

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Speaker 1: engineering by Nate Yaccino and Greg Tobler. Artwork by Eliza Fry,

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Speaker 1: Photography by Sure Lines