1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is John, the og Storytime 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: podcast host. Oh yeah, and we got some great stories 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: coming up. But before that, we get a teeny two 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: minute break from the sponsors that keep the show propped 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: up like a little house. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my boyfriend lights up around his best friend. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Now I feel like the third wheel. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 3: Maybe you should just do better. 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Yikes. 10 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: My boyfriend twenty three male, and I twenty two female, 11 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: have been dating for about six months now. Our relationship 12 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: with each other is amazing, and I can honestly say 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: I haven't felt this way about anyone I've previously dated. 14 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: A bit about him. He's sort of an introvert in that, 15 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: while he's definitely social, he doesn't talk too much, and 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: when he does, it's still very restrained, as in well parsed. 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: He is this way with everyone except one friend of his. 18 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user ts stan one, 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 20 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay Storytime subreddit. So I'd sort 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: of met her before because my best friend is a 22 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: mutual friend of ours boyfriend, and I actually met through 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: my best friend. My boyfriend knows her because she has 24 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: been his close friend for almost five years now. Apparently 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: they were neighbors in their university dorm, and they also 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: had the same program. My boyfriend and her seem to 27 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: share a kind of connection that I honestly can't say 28 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 2: I do with him. He talks so much when she's present, 29 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: his whole demeanor changes. The widest I've ever seen him 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: smile has been when she's present. If there's a bunch 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: of us in a room, the two of them will 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: have these shared references in inside jokes. A couple of 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: months back, my boyfriend had fractured his foot and was 34 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: bed ridden for the most part. She came to give 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: him food literally every day. You could actually see his 36 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: face brighten when he learned she'd come. I sometimes feel 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: that if you take away the spicy related aspect of 38 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: my relationship with him, it might not hold up against 39 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: what he has with her. She broke up with her 40 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: boyfriend a few months back too, and it's gotten to 41 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: the point where I'm actively trying to set her up 42 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 2: with someone. 43 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: The worst part about this is. 44 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: That she's likable, attractive, She has this dorky sort of 45 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: humor that my boyfriend loves. 46 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: The food she was making him was amazing. 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: My boyfriend is into science documentaries and I'm not, so 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: we've never really watched them. She doesn't seem that into 49 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: it either, but she watched it with him, kept asking 50 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: him stuff, and he was so enthusiastic in his explanations. 51 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: I've now started doing stuff he wants, just to emulate that. 52 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: So what prompted me in the coming here happened this weekend. 53 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: She had come over and my boyfriend wanted ice cream, 54 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: so we went to a nearby kareamery. The two of 55 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: them were done with their orders because they already knew 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: what they wanted, which incidentally happened to be the same flavor. 57 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: Ugh. 58 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: While I like taking my time testing stuff, there was 59 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: an old lady with what seemed like her granddaughter who 60 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: noticed that they had the same flavors and said, you 61 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: two look great together. 62 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: Yee, that's some that's a little bit of a twist 63 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: of the knife in there. 64 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: My boyfriend corrected her. Oh good, but oh god, did 65 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: that hurt? I just don't know what to do. Are 66 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: they even doing anything wrong? What do I even complain 67 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: to him about? Am I in over my head here? 68 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 2: And there are some comments. I feel that some comments 69 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: are really inconsiderate of OP, because if you'd place yourself 70 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: in the shoes of OP, I'm certain many would comment differently. 71 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 2: I won't lie and say that I would have flares 72 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: of insecurity as well. If that would be my boyfriend, 73 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: I can imagine seeing the inside banter between them that 74 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: would make it seem like there is chemistry in the air. However, 75 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: this could be very well something only your mind would 76 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: focus on, while both your boyfriend and this female friend 77 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: don't think of anything but having a good friendly time, 78 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: especially due to the amount of time that they've known 79 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: each other. If you are really uncomfortable with the situation, 80 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: just bring it up in a calm manner with your boyfriend. 81 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: It's okay to ask reassurance. Sometimes it doesn't mean you're 82 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: sabotaging the relationship. Communication is key. A commenter replies, I'd 83 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: feel insecure if I was in your position too. I 84 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: think you just have to talk to him about how 85 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: this makes you feel, or it's always going to drive 86 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: you crazy. It doesn't sound like you suspect them of 87 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: having anything or doing anything, so starting by telling him 88 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: that you believe he'd never cheat on you, and you're 89 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: not accusing him of anything, but sometimes their interactions make 90 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: you feel uncomfortable from your perspective, bringing him food every 91 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: day while he was injured to something that a spouse 92 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: or partner would do. Also tell him you notice that, 93 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: out of all of his friends, he only replies to 94 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: her texts. Don't remember that? Maybe that was in another comment. 95 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: Hopefully he understands where you're coming from. Make sure you're 96 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: clear that you don't want to stop their friendship because 97 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 2: you feel like she's your friend too, But you'd appreciate 98 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: it if he was more aware of how this makes 99 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: you feel, because their friendship makes you feel like a 100 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: third wheel. And we have an update. Lere's get it. 101 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: I have decided do not bring it up with my boyfriend. 102 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: Why why? Why you had everyone telling you just tell 103 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: him you were right there. There must have been a 104 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: drastic change. 105 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: Ah. 106 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 2: Some comments had made the compelling point that they hadn't 107 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: really done anything wrong, and I was letting my insecurities 108 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: ruin a relationship. I didn't want to ruin what has 109 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: been an amazing relationship just because I let my mind 110 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: run them up. Since then, I'd entered my relationship with 111 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: a positive mindset. We spent all day yesterday together doing 112 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: stuff that each of us wanted to do. Today, I 113 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: thought we would try out a new Chinese place, which 114 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: is near where he works. 115 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: He's on work from home again. 116 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: After the advice I'd received, I thought that new shared 117 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: experiences is what would create the connection I wanted between 118 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: the two of us. He told me that, yeah, it's good. 119 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: He'd tried it with her a few weeks ago before 120 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: the second lockdown had started. 121 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: During lunch. 122 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: They both work in the downtown area, and I guess 123 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: they're close enough to meet up for lunch. I know 124 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: it's a small thing, and going for lunch together with 125 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: a friend is or whatever, but it was just the 126 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: fact that this was another shared experience lost that just 127 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: got to me. I opened up to him about how 128 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: I felt like an outsider when him and his friend 129 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: were together, about how I couldn't relate to the stuff 130 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: they talked about and all that. He was incredibly comfort 131 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: He apologized and said that he didn't realize it, that 132 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: he should have figured that would be the case, and 133 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: he's going to make sure I don't feel this way. 134 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: This is where I fed up. How you just did it. 135 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: That was the end. This should be the end. 136 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: Of the story and guess what did it. He didn't 137 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: seem upset. He seemed more concerned about you, and he understood, like, wow, 138 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: that's not fair to you. This seems all reasonable. 139 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: And then you should have gone home and read a book, 140 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: But instead you're gonna do something. 141 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: I think. 142 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: I let my insecurities get the better of me here 143 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: and I got greedy. I told him about how I 144 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 2: felt she was doing stuff that I should be doing 145 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: as his girlfriend, that his relationship with her made me 146 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: feel like a third wheel, and that sometimes I felt 147 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: some boundaries were being crossed inadvertently. He said he was 148 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: sorry about that, but she's a very important person in 149 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: my life. We've been through a lot together in the 150 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: last five years. He asked me why they couldn't be 151 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 2: close as friends and what was wrong with her trying 152 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: to help him out during a tough time, referring to 153 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: the daily food stuff. I didn't have an answer to that. 154 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: What he was saying just made sense. I told him 155 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: that I wanted our relationship to mature further, and that 156 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: I felt I wasn't getting to be that important person 157 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: in his life. He apologized and said he would make 158 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: sure I didn't feel that way that it was his fault, 159 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: but she shouldn't be punished for our mistakes. 160 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: I feel like there's no mistakes really though. Again, he 161 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: was just having He was supporting his friend like there 162 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: was nothing flirty or like malignant about it. They were 163 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: just like good friend and then like they ate food. 164 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. 165 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: At this point I started to cry for some reason. 166 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: I can't explain it. Him putting himself at fault for 167 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: everything is the last thing I wanted. He seemed so 168 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: distraught during all of it, and I hate what this 169 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: convo did to him. I'm so ashamed that I let 170 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: my insecurities hurt us like this. He kept comforting me. 171 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: We've said we're good, but there just seems to be 172 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: this feeling in the air that I hate. I don't 173 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: know if I just e fed it up, but I'm 174 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: going to make sure it's not irreversible and not let 175 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: my insecurities get the better of me. And there are 176 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: comments I wouldn't do whatever you're concocting as a plan, 177 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: don't do it. 178 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: No, this is You're fine. Yeah, everything's fine, and you 179 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: here's another thing. They've only been dating for a very 180 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: short period of time. It seems like again six months. Yeah, 181 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: you can't rush things you can't like, all right, whatever 182 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: you guys got, I want because you guys have been 183 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: friends for I don't know five plus years. I want that. 184 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: Why I want it now, it's because it's you can't rush. 185 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: It's because of Gorel. Yeah it was boy, no problem. 186 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: But because Gorel everything seemed fine and until the point 187 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: was like I want what she has and I want 188 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: it now, rather than like I want what she has. 189 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: But let's grow into that kind of thing. 190 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Let's get into these comments. 191 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: It's a good thing that you were open and honest 192 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: about it. Stop feeling bad and thinking that you messed up. 193 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: Otherwise this would have eaten away at you for so 194 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: long you could have ended up being resentful in the 195 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: big picture. I don't think you're wrong for feeling the 196 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: way you feel. In any way. I would not be 197 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: comfortable with the situation either, because it's really not normal, 198 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: and I know a lot of other people would agree. 199 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: I don't really have much advance succept that I feel 200 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: bad for you that you're going through this and you 201 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: keep beating yourself up over it. There is a real 202 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: problem in your relationship and you keep directing it back 203 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: at yourself, saying the things about you being the one 204 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: that is screwing up and your insecurities are the problem, 205 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: and you feeling like you have to fix things when 206 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: you should be exploring things together as a team. I 207 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: can't help but wonder if after the conversation with your 208 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 2: your boyfriend feels this much anguish over the direction of 209 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: the relationship and wondering how to move forward. I'm sorry 210 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: you're going through this, and there's a second update. I 211 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: agree with that comment. I feel like she's like, there's 212 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 2: this weird thing in the air now and I need 213 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: to fix it. I'm like, I bet you're the only 214 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: one feeling that yet straight up. Yeah, just let it 215 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: be okay, But we have a second update. I've been 216 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: feeling a bit resentful about the advice at the time, 217 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: since I thought my combo with him had heard our relationship, 218 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: but it honestly proven to be a windfall for it. 219 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: He told me he was glad that I'd talked to him, 220 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: and he didn't know before if I was serious about 221 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: but he did now. We had been creating a lot 222 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: of us time and he'd been going the extra mile 223 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: for me since we even went to a cottage for 224 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: the entire Valentine's weekend. I wasn't feeling left out anymore 225 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: and felt our relationship was so much more secure, so 226 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: I'd really come. 227 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: To be grateful for the advice here. 228 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 2: For the past week, I felt like something was bothering him, 229 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: but he kept saying it was nothing. I noticed a 230 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: few things, though, he just seemed a bit uncomfortable sometimes, 231 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: especially when he was on his phone. I wanted to 232 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: give him space to tell me about it when he 233 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: felt like he should, because I know he prefers that 234 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: he also goes to her place around twice a week, 235 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: but now he was insisting I come along too, and 236 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: once when I initially said I wasn't up for it, 237 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: he started trying to convince one of his best friends 238 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: who lives close by. She also hadn't come over all week. 239 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: Like I had said before, I never wanted to ruin 240 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: a friendship that means a lot to him, so I 241 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: did think that maybe that's what had happened, but I 242 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: didn't think too much about it. I also hadn't made 243 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: the connection between this and my boyfriend feeling bothered. I 244 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: don't know my sneaking suspicion is he's this stressed out 245 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: because he did have a conversation with that friend and 246 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: that friend was like, Mmm, maybe I do like you, 247 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: and now he's just trying to salvage it. 248 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: Well, but that's a theory. 249 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: It could be it's completely out of left field theory. 250 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: I'm plucking that out of nowhere. That's what I'm that's 251 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: my call. I'm calling it could be wrong. Yesterday I 252 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: asked my boyfriend again what was bothering him? 253 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: And then I just wanted to help him. 254 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: He told me that he had thought that he shouldn't 255 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: tell this to anyone, but he thought about it a 256 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: bit more and concluded that he'd want to know if 257 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: he was in my position. That she had told him 258 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: a week ago when they were just chilling, that she 259 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: used to have feelings for him and that's what made 260 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: her feel wrong in continuing her previous relationship. Oh, but 261 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: that she was happy for him and us now and 262 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: then it was in the past. Oh my god, she 263 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: broke up with her boyfriend for this guy. She didn't 264 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: just break. 265 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: Up for him, you were oh nice? Uh? 266 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: I hate that though. It sucks. I felt sick in 267 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: the stomach when I heard this. 268 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: I know it's in the past, but the fact that 269 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: she felt strongly enough about him that it affected her 270 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: relationship bothers me so much. It sort of got heated 271 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: between us. I told him how I thought it was 272 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: super messed up that she said that, And am I 273 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: just supposed to believe that her feelings turned off like 274 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: a switch. 275 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: He said he understood, but. 276 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: That she would never have said that if she hadn't 277 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: gotten over it, and that she never acted on it. 278 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 5: I feel like, you don't bring up that you had 279 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 5: a crush on someone if you're if you're actually over it, 280 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 5: you don't bring it up until like two years later 281 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 5: or ever or ever. 282 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 283 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just as a joke. 284 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, like. 285 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: Two years ago, and. 286 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: Especially when they I don't know, have a partner. 287 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, not two months after you broke up with your 288 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 5: boyfriend because of your crash. 289 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have to be like, eh, you so disgusting. 290 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: I can't believe I even ever had a crush on you, 291 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: Like he. 292 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 6: Haven't even then. That sounds like he's telling on. 293 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: Them, and he'd be like, do you want to crush 294 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: on me? 295 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Okay? 296 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: I was still so angry at the whole thing, and 297 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: I was also in a way angry at her because 298 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: our relationship was finally in such an amazing place. We 299 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: kept arguing for a bit, and he said that she'd 300 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: also been feeling. 301 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: Terrible about it. 302 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: He also showed me a couple of texts he'd gotten 303 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 2: from her. She was asking him if they were still 304 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: friends now that she had opened up to him because 305 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: she just felt like she could tell him anything, and 306 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: that she'd been feeling as if she'd ruined their friendship 307 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: and didn't want that to happen. 308 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: This is where he let's see how he plays his 309 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: game of chess. 310 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: This is a bear. 311 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: I want to tell you how. I want to see 312 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 3: what he does. 313 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: Okay, my boyfriend was telling her that it was whatever 314 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: and apologized for acting weird. I know my boyfriend is 315 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: trying to look at it from a compassionate perspective, and 316 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 2: the text make me feel a bit sorry for her, 317 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: But just the fact that while we were dating, she 318 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: was into him the whole time while in our room 319 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: just upsets me. Also, our relationship has been growing so strong, 320 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: and I feel like I should treat this thing as 321 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: a minor nuisance, but I can't stop thinking about it. 322 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 5: This. 323 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: You are so backwards, Op, this is not a minor 324 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: nuisance now, Like I like how that you have the 325 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: confirmation that this is a problem. 326 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: How some of the minor things are Opier are major 327 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: things to some of the major things are OPI are 328 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: minor things like. 329 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: Well, it's just like before you knew for certain, you 330 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: were like, this feels wrong, and now you know for certain, 331 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: and you're like, maybe I should just be okay with this. 332 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: I know. 333 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: In my last post, a lot of comments and some 334 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: messages I got in my inbox told me I was 335 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: being crazy and insecure, and some even said I should 336 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: seek therapy, but which you should. But everyone should do that. 337 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: But isn't this a vindication of how I was feeling? Yes, 338 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: I understand that people can't control who they developed feelings for, 339 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: and true, she hasn't acted on it, But how do 340 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: I get over the feeling of just wanting her out 341 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: of our lives? 342 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 6: I feel like she has acted on it. 343 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: I guess she's been acting on it the whole time. 344 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Carl says she broke up with her boyfriend. 345 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: Op's honorary dude because she's being so oblivious joined the 346 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: oblivious club Wow. 347 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 5: Like she hasn't kissed him, but she's told she was 348 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 5: if she had every day, if she had the chance 349 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 5: to kiss him, she. 350 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: Would she would. 351 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Am I even wrong in thinking this way anymore? 352 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: Of course, not comments that is very generous of him. 353 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: But she did act on it every time she did 354 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: something you felt was over the line exactly, Yeah, and 355 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: into girlfriend territory. Just because she didn't try to make 356 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: out with him doesn't mean she didn't act on it. 357 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: The daily meals, the documentary she wasn't into. I'm sure 358 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: there are other things that made you want to ask 359 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: who the girlfriend is? You guys had to have a 360 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: come to Jesus common about it, right. She probably told 361 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: him to test the waters and see if she should 362 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: be acting on it. If he had given her a 363 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: hint of interest, do you think her feelings would have 364 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: stayed in the past? 365 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: And update number three, I'm feeling the end of the friendship. 366 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: End of the friendship or end of the relationship. It's 367 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: going to be either or. 368 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: Here's my second prediction. I hope I'm wrong. 369 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: I feel like the friendship is going to end and 370 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: then OP is not going to be able to navigate 371 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: their own feelings about that happening and who's responsible and 372 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: what happened, and it's going to also lead to the 373 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: end of their relationship. 374 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: That's my pretty well, it's going to be the way 375 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: the story ends. It seems like is either he chooses 376 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: a friend or he chooses op and we're going to 377 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: find out. 378 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: So after my conversation with my boyfriend, when he told 379 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: me about how his friend used to feel and how 380 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: he'd never felt anything towards her, I'd told myself that 381 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: now that I knew he didn't feel that way, this 382 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't bother me. But it did to the point where 383 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: I was actively harboring negative feelings for her in my head. 384 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: A couple of redditors had given me the advice that 385 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: maybe have one last talk in a calm manner, So 386 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: I did that yesterday when we both were in a 387 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: good mood, with the intention of this being the last 388 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: time I ever talked about her. I started off with 389 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: telling him how I loved him and that our relationship 390 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: had become so strong and that we were a team. 391 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: So I didn't know why he felt he had to 392 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: be uncomfortable alone rather than confide in me. He said 393 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: that he loved me too, and that when his friend 394 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: had shared her past feelings with him, he felt that 395 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: she thought it was only meant for him, which is 396 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: why he was conflicted, but that I was right and 397 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: that our relationship was strong enough that others should know 398 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 2: that if it's something that indirectly affects our relationship. 399 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: We would be telling each other about it. 400 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: I then opened up to him about how I felt 401 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: so weird about the fact that she decided to put 402 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: her feelings out there for him, that what if she 403 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 2: still felt the same way, and that the fact that 404 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: there was a time when the three of us were 405 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: in a room and from her perspective, the situation would 406 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: be improved if I wasn't there bothered me so much. 407 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: He told me that she'd sworn that her feelings were 408 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: in the past, and that they were both super high 409 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: at the time, and she'd also had a few drinks, 410 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: so this wasn't a calculated move on her part, that 411 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: she'd never ever made a pass at him, and that 412 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: she probably felt she could trust him to not feel 413 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: weird when she said that, and that if he acted 414 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: cold towards her now, he'd be punishing her for being forthright. 415 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: They were all calculated moves. These were all calculated moves 416 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: to see if he would play the game, and again 417 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: he didn't play the game, thankfully, Or again he was 418 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: so oblivious to her like. 419 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 3: Flirting with him. He was like, we're just good friends. 420 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: But Opie saw it. Opie had the girl's intuition where 421 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: he's like, I would do that too, if I were 422 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: into this guy, you know, Okay. 423 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: He said that he loved me and I was his 424 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: main priority and he wanted to be with me for good. 425 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: I said I felt the same way. That if I 426 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 2: felt so uncomfortable about it, he'd do whatever I wanted 427 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: to feel comfortable. But if I could just give it 428 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: another thought, and that I had no reason to be bothered. 429 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: That if I trusted him, then there were no possible 430 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: chain of events that could hurt our relationship. That she 431 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: was one of his four best friends whom he trusted 432 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: with everything and who'd been with him through everything in 433 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: the past. That all he wanted was for me to 434 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: just look at it once more, but he'd do whatever 435 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: he could to comfort me. 436 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: It's nonsense. 437 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: I'll do everything you want for me, but just I'll 438 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: be I'll make you so comfortable. But this one thing 439 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: that's going to make you uncomfortable. 440 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, your whole relationship with your friend has not been 441 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: what you thought it was the whole time. It's She's 442 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: always had feelings for you, So this thing that you 443 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: thought you had has never really been that thing, and 444 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 2: now you have to reassess it. 445 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: This is there is a. 446 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: Chance that I'm wrong, though I don't think I am, 447 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: but I trusted him and didn't want this to be 448 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: a thorn in our relationship. So I said, that's okay, 449 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: but she had to maintain some boundaries until I came 450 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: to terms with it. 451 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: He agreed. 452 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: We agreed that she shouldn't get to be alone with 453 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: him excessively until I'm okay with it, that I would 454 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: always be the first port of call for him, and 455 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: he said that if at any point I felt lines 456 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: were being crossed, he would reevaluate. It was an incredibly 457 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: uncomfortable conversation for both of us, and I hated every 458 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: second of it, but I feel it had to be done. 459 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm done with this chapter and don't want to take 460 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: her name between us again. I'm thankful to all the 461 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: people who have given me the advice and the relationship 462 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: with my boyfriend has gone from strength to strength. Thanks, 463 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: and I hope and believe that I will never have 464 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: to post here again. 465 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: Update number four. 466 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: He broke up with me because he had to give 467 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: his thing with his friend a chance. 468 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: I called it. At least he was gonna pick either 469 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: the friend or op. 470 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 471 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 3: What an actual piece of work. 472 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 6: He knew the whole time. Yeah, I don't think he 473 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 6: was oblivious from at all. You know, I think he 474 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 6: knew the whole time. 475 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. 476 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 6: M hmm. 477 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: And on a real level, if you just find yourself 478 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: in this relationship situation and you see like that person, 479 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: he's in love with her, you go, all right, I 480 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 2: see that regardless if he does. So, I'm going to 481 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: leave because my boyfriend is in love with this other 482 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: girl who's single and actively pursuing. 483 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 6: Him and broke up with her boyfriend to be with him. 484 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm gonna leave because this is not a 485 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: situation I win. This is the most pain I've ever 486 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: been in. I thought we were good, he told me 487 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: he distanced himself from his friend and kept true to 488 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: it this entire time. He reached out to her because 489 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: of a member of her family passing, and even I said, yeah, 490 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: of course you should do that. This was less than 491 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: two months ago. Last night I was told he had 492 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: to give a relationship with. 493 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: Her a chance. 494 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: Everything sucks Comments Number one. I just read all your posts. 495 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry you're going through all this. That other 496 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: girl had no right to mention her past feelings to him. 497 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: It was unfair to you and your relationship. To be fair, 498 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: I actually disagree with that because clearly the relationship would 499 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: have just been a lie the entire time. So I 500 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: think clearly this guy had feelings for her, and her 501 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: saying it allowed OPI to not, you know, spend. 502 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: Five years with this guy and then this happens. 503 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: She mentioned them because she wanted to have your boyfriend 504 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: be the one to do something, so she didn't look 505 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: like it was all her idea. The fact that your 506 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: boyfriend played along with it and has now I actually 507 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: told you he wants to try something with her is 508 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: cold and heartless. You are a strong individual, and I 509 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: know this may hurt now, but you don't. 510 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: You dare let it consume you. 511 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: If he comes to you and tries to apologize or 512 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: talk or even try to get back with you, don't 513 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: accept it. He's just shown you his priorities and what 514 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: type of selfish people he and this girl are. Block 515 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: them both and cut them out of your life, and 516 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: you focus on yourself in finding someone. 517 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: Who will choose you. Keep your head up. Comment too says. 518 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: He just paused the game. Don't worry, he'll be back. 519 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I hated both of those comments. 520 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: Just yeah, let them I guarantee you, because they were 521 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: friends and then it's gonna get weird and you know what, 522 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: let them be. Don't worry about the mope. 523 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: Everyone has seen like two people where it's like, oh, 524 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: you guys are dating, right, and it's like, no, we're 525 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: just besties. It's like all right, but shut up because 526 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: you're you should be dating you idiots, like and it 527 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: sounds like maybe those two were those people. 528 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: Like was it good? 529 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: No, it's like morally no, of course not. 530 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: But like I think if you would have had a 531 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: more honest, vulnerable, open conversation where it's like, I this 532 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: is how I feel about your relationship with this other girl, 533 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: and like, from the outside, it really seems like you 534 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: have more than just feelings of friendship for her. 535 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: So what do you think about that? 536 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 2: Because that's what I see every time y'all are together, 537 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: and then he could go, wait, am I in love 538 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: with my friend? 539 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: And then the relationship implodes. 540 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 3: And it's over? But I don't know. 541 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: That's what happens. 542 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: This is what we all sign up for when we 543 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: were in relationships. 544 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: Just focus on yourself, op. Yeah, do get therapy, Jcus. 545 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: It's always good for you. But let them do their thing. 546 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 3: You'll find someone who actually wants to be with you 547 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: and you deserve the love you you need and want. 548 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 3: Sam Here, we're gonna get back to the stories. 549 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 6: But here's three of its bads from our sponsors. 550 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 3: I lost my dog and my boyfriend celebrated it. 551 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: Oh, throw them out, kick them out of the planet. 552 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't need to read the story break up 553 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: with your boyfriend done? Heads up. There's a little bit 554 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 3: of a trigger warning for verbial abuse. It's minor, but 555 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: still if you're not into that or that bothers you, 556 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: please just skip ahead. I female thirty five, have been 557 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: with my boyfriend Caleb, male thirty seven for a year now. 558 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: As of last June sixteenth, we literally will he just 559 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: celebrated our anniversary when my dad passed away last year. 560 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: I sort of inherited Pepper, his thirteen year old black 561 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: lab Huh, who is the sweetest pup alive. By the way, 562 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: this concert muser Burger of the attracted to the same gender. 563 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: Oh, Burger of the game. 564 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: Burger of the game. And if you want to submit 565 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: your own stories, go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. 566 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: So oh, here we go. I won't make excuses, but 567 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: when Pepper passed away this past Thursday, I was absolutely devastated. 568 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 3: I could not stop crying. I keep house from my 569 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 3: boyfriend as he's the only one working right now. I 570 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: was downside last month and just became the norm until 571 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: I get a job. I couldn't make lunch. I pulled 572 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 3: myself together enough to make dinner. He was annoyed enough 573 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: to mutter, are you effing kidding me? When I started 574 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 3: crying again, and it hurt. I just tried to be 575 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: quiet the rest of the time. Well, last night, a 576 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: bunch of his friends came over. 577 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 6: First. 578 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised. He lived in this house for a 579 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 3: while and he got it from his parents, so he's 580 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: been there, been in the area forever. He has a 581 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: lot of friends. So in the first second, third person 582 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: showed up. I didn't much think about it and just 583 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 3: pointed them to the den where my boyfriend was. But 584 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 3: then the fourth to maybe the tenth person showed and 585 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: I was like, what is happening. I dropped in the 586 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: den to check and see how things were going, and 587 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: one of his friends shouted the guest of honor before 588 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 3: my boyfriend whacked his arm. I kind of laughed it off, 589 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 3: and it wasn't until one of the guys came by 590 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: to offer condolences about Pepper that I asked what was 591 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: going on. He looked a little uncomfy and then said 592 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: it was a stupid joke, but it was a party 593 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: for congress to my boyfriend because we are now child free. 594 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: Wow, this is like anything I could have imagined on 595 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: a real level. 596 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you. 597 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: Threw a party to celebrate that the dog passed. 598 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: Not like Oh I threw this and it was to 599 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: help and it wasn't like to mourn. It seems like 600 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 3: it seems like he invited the bros over and guess 601 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: what it was Opie's dog. Why is OPI not even 602 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: involved in any of this? 603 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 2: Just leave, it's over. You never need to talk to 604 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: this guy again. What is wrong with him? I asked, 605 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: what does that mean? And he said that it's like 606 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: when a kid goes to college, sort of, we're now 607 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: empty nesters. Shut the hell up. I would have slapped him. Sorry, 608 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: I don't get don't slap Kean's got dogs that he loves. 609 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 3: I love my dogs. I had a tattoo of my 610 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 3: dog's popprint on my thing when he passed. I still 611 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: mourn him. 612 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: Right on his thing. 613 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I like to anyone who has an 614 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: animal that's more than a pet. Sometimes that's that's family. 615 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: I was upset and he left quickly, so went back 616 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 3: to the dead and to ask my boyfriend about this. 617 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: But then I saw a makeshift card that said congrats 618 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: the witch is in the ditch. I was stunned. Boyfriend 619 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 3: saw me staring and grabbed it, turned to his friend, 620 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: saying it was a bad joke and not to worry 621 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 3: about it, blaming his friend. Then that's when everyone started 622 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: mumbling I can't give a full account of what exactly 623 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: happened because I got so upset. 624 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: The reason she has this dog is her dad passed away. 625 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: Yes, so the dog gets her dad's dog, who also 626 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: just passed away a year ago. 627 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did ask everyone to leave good All but 628 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 3: one did, and my boyfriend started arguing with me about 629 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: it being his house and I have no right to 630 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: punt out his friends or stop his party. I asked 631 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 3: him to tell me the truth. Was this a party 632 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 3: thrown because Pepper is gone? He didn't really answer, but 633 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: the friend who stayed behind confirmed it was. I slept 634 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 3: on the couch last night and he left early for 635 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: a job interview. But I don't want to go back there. 636 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: I love my boyfriend, but this was just cruel. He 637 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: did notice. I never came to bed and got my 638 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 3: coffee ready with a good luck note attached, as he 639 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: works from home and he was in his home office. 640 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: But I didn't take it. I just took Pepper's leash, 641 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: leashes and callers and went to my interview. This is 642 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: so far out of left field. He's not like this. 643 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: I'm just so sad. He's on my main account, so 644 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: I made this to vent. How do I even talk 645 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: to him about this? Whenever I think about it, I 646 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: just want to lose it, shout at him and tell 647 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: him to stick his audacity where the sun don't shine. 648 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: But to be honest, I'm not a confrontational person. I 649 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: don't like when people shout. I just feel so lost 650 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: right now? Would I be the a hole if I 651 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: stayed away a bit? I don't even want to look 652 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: at him, let alone talk to him. And there is 653 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: an update? I am, I'm I'm packing my things and 654 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: getting out. Why are you giving him? Like you said, 655 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: why are you giving him any light of day? He 656 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: made a freaking party about your dog passing away. 657 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: You're the a hole if you like give him a 658 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: single chance after this is crazy. 659 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: I will I will hate both of you equally if 660 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: you stay with this man. 661 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: The fact that he said, are you f kidding me? 662 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: When you're crying and mourning because one you've had the 663 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: long it probably one of the longest years of your life. 664 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 3: Your dad has passed away, and the last thing he 665 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: had to remind you of him, not less last thing, 666 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: but like one of the main things he had to 667 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: remind you of him was Pepper, who was an absolute 668 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: joy to you for another year and you lost Pepper. Yeah, 669 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: that man should be consoling you and mourning with you 670 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 3: and making you feel better and checking on you, rather 671 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: than are you fing kidding me? Let's see if he 672 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: does anything to redeem himself, which I don't think anything 673 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: could be redeemable at this point. Update. The short of 674 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: my post before is that my boyfriend threw a party 675 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: at the house with some of his friends after my 676 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: dog passed away, and when I went to investigate, there 677 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: was a card indicating he was happy she was gone. 678 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: I was upset and left the house with all my 679 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: dog's things. I was emotional and posted on readit about 680 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: it at a bar, crying so noticeably that a literal 681 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: stranger took care of my tab for me and said, 682 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: they hope whatever I'm going through gets better. It's an 683 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: angel who did that. That was two days ago. I 684 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: stayed overnight at the house of the parents of a friend. 685 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: That's a weird way of saying that. They let me 686 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: use my friend's childhood room, and her mom sat with 687 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: me and supplied me with water, food, and wine, and 688 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: we got wasted, and I finally felt ready to read 689 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: the comments. Most were kind, but some were brutal. I 690 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: hoped towards him, not towards you, I cried more. I 691 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: come from an emotionally harmful household growing up, so I 692 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: tend to shut down and freeze rather than react to 693 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: emotional pain. I honestly just needed time to think. I 694 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 3: texted my ex that I am away, but a friend 695 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: of a friend, my friend's dad is coming to grab 696 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 3: my meds and some important items. To please, oh to 697 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: let him grab it. Please, please don't fight my friend's dad. Yeah, 698 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: I need time away from him. After he celebrated the 699 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: demise my best friend my dog. 700 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 5: You need unlimited time forever. 701 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: Away from him. 702 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: He facetimeed me and said I had it wrong. It 703 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: was not a celebration of the demise of the dog, 704 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: but a celebration of life. And he was sad too. 705 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I bet he just guys, he just figured out 706 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: what a lie was and he thinks he's being slick. 707 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so his friends tried to make him laugh and 708 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: threw a party, but it was a wake of sorts. 709 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: What if it's a wake for her? Why wasn't I 710 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: her person and best living friend even told when it 711 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: was happening in the house, And why didn't he explain 712 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: this was when I shut it down instead of making 713 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: a comment that it's his house and I don't have 714 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: her right to cast anyone out, like make it make 715 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 3: sense because it doesn't. I told him I don't want 716 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: to talk about this right now. I need my items. 717 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: He said he won't let the dat in. I said, 718 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: well fine, I will call the police to escort me 719 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 3: in and I'll grab everything myself. He started screaming at 720 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: me and cussing at me. He said so much, But 721 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: what I remember most was him saying I was worthless 722 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: and acting like a witch, and then said maybe you 723 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: and your witch should be reunited. I didn't know, but 724 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: my friend's mom was recording it all. She was on 725 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: the couch with me and took video, took a video. 726 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: I hung up to cry after he said he wasted 727 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 3: a year of his life on me. We later got 728 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 3: a text from the dad saying he got what I needed, 729 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: but mom said to be careful about the meds as 730 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 3: I hung up, And there was enough time between that 731 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: and the dad texting us that my boyfriend could have 732 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 3: tampered with my medication. So I'm literally having to make 733 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 3: a police report anyway about the threats, so I can 734 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: bring it to a doctor so they will grant me 735 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: an emergency fill as some of my meds are considered controlled. 736 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: My friend went with me yesterday. She's a real gem. 737 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: She came yesterday and drove me there herself. We made 738 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 3: the report and we called the doctor's office for me 739 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 3: as well. Everyone was really nice. I get nervous around 740 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: the police because my father was one and he was 741 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 3: harmful and terrible, but having my friend there helped. Today 742 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: I spent time doing a virtual interview for a job 743 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: I really want. It would be remote and thus I 744 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 3: can move anywhere. My friend's parents said that I can 745 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 3: stay until I get a job, so long as I 746 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: follow some rules. All I see is very reasonable. My 747 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 3: friend is even kind enough to get me tickets to 748 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 3: the movie theater nearby and send money to my cash 749 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: app for the ride shairs, so I can just relax 750 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 3: w friend. So today that is what I'm going to do. 751 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 3: I just saw Sinners Sammy Sammy, and it was awesome. 752 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 3: Yes it was it was shut up, No, it was good. 753 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: I give it. 754 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: Actually a eight out of ten now is up from seven. 755 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 3: I'm just waiting for my ride back to the house 756 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: so I can help this kind of surrogate mom make dinner. 757 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: I do actually really love to cook. The dad is 758 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 3: vegan and I used to room with vegans, so I'm 759 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 3: actually really good at vegan cuisine. I'm excited, truly to 760 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 3: just be and to be with people who are kind 761 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 3: to me and seem genuinely seem to care. I hope 762 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: I get an offer soon, though I don't want to 763 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 3: be a burden or take advantage of their incredible kindness. 764 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 3: I know I'm freaking lucky. I don't want to ruin it. 765 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 3: I'm pretty much tearful all the time, but I'm physically safe. 766 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: At least. I miss my dog and the person I 767 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 3: thought my boyfriend was. I will break things off officially 768 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: when I have the bandwidth to deal with it all, 769 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 3: likely tomorrow. I hope we'll see Wish me luck and 770 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: there is a second update. I feel like everything is 771 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: going in the right direction. Shout out to your friend 772 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: being your support system and her family being so, like 773 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: you said, incredibly kind. You deserve this and the support 774 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 3: system from the very get go, not some monster saying, oh, 775 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: finally your dog passed away, your pet passed away. Update 776 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 3: number two. I mentioned in my last post in a 777 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: different sub that I got helped to leave Caleb again 778 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 3: the boyfriend to live with a bff. I call Barbara, 779 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: female thirties family who taken me in and honestly have 780 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: pretty much treated me like their own kid. There is 781 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 3: background with me and Barb, but it's a lot, and 782 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 3: I want to keep this short. I will call the 783 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: parents Zelda female fifties and Caden male sixties, for the 784 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 3: sake of keeping things less confusing. Cayden is a big dude. 785 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 3: I guess the best way to paint a picture is 786 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 3: if you see you picture Shamar Moore, the actor. 787 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 6: Hey from Criminal Minds? 788 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: Who Shamar Minds? 789 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 6: He's the guy in Criminal Minds. 790 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 2: They should call him Shamar more and more. Oh my god, 791 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: that's how much of him I want to see. 792 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 3: I don't see more of his story. He's just a 793 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 3: beefy jim bro looking guy, but he's the sweetest man alive. 794 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 3: Dude literally is retired and spends his time doing part 795 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: time work to keep busy and rescues animals, gardens, and 796 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 3: with the food from that garden, he loves to cook. 797 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: So he's Shamar Moore. He's the most adorable man I've 798 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 3: literally ever met in my life. He pulled me aside 799 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: the day after he got my stuff from Calebs and 800 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 3: told me the whole story. He gets to Calebs, knocks 801 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: and Caleb starts with the threats he will call the cops, 802 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: he will sue, et cetera. Cayden told him plainly to 803 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 3: go ahead and that he can return cops in tow 804 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 3: to retrieve my items per my request. Caleb relented, but 805 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 3: he was basically a tool the whole time. No way, shocking, No, 806 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 3: Cayden said he tried to be cool headed and he 807 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: just grabbed everything on my list, but Caleb was postering 808 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: and trying to be a big man and kept passling 809 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: with hurry up, I don't have all day and things 810 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: like that. Then when Caden didn't react or say anything 811 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 3: to him, Caleb went mildly Caden's word, not mine, discriminatory 812 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: and told him in a very exaggerated accent, to hurry up, boy, 813 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 3: there's cotton that needs picking. And worse, I really hope 814 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 3: Cayden did something. Oh he he did. Cayden said he 815 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 3: just laughed at these attempts to get a rise out 816 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 3: of him and focus on his task. 817 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 2: Good on, Kaden, Honestly, the best reactions that you could have. 818 00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: No, you're like you're an idiot. 819 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 3: Should have recorded the entire thing, actually, but he did 820 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 3: start to record on his phone Wow. Yeah, look at 821 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 3: that putting the phone in his front in his front 822 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 3: pocket camera out like a body cam. He has footage 823 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 3: of Kalem repeating his veiled Opie should join her witch 824 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: comment and more. Cadence told me he is not telling 825 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 3: me this to upset me, but to inform me. He's 826 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 3: known guys like that and they are manipultive and overall 827 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 3: bad news. He told me that he talked it over 828 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 3: with Zelda and they will pay for a lawyer for 829 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 3: me and will help me pay for any schooling or certifications. 830 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 3: I need to get on my feet again. Nice angels 831 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 3: send from above. 832 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: Wow, my little silver Linland. 833 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 3: The best revenge is a life well lived, he said. 834 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 3: Then he added that a better revenge is a life 835 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 3: effing thriving. Despite it all, I have no idea how 836 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 3: I liked out with these wonderful people. It didn't take 837 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 3: really long. I think I posted about a week ago, 838 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 3: and yesterday the friend from my original post who told 839 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 3: me about the party as he left, Larry Mail thirty 840 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 3: six sent me screenshots of Kalem asking his friends to 841 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 3: best basically pester me and get and gave talking points 842 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 3: in a numbered list and what looks to be an 843 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 3: AI generated It's hard with sure. Here's the list of 844 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 3: talking points to add to your RPG at the top, 845 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 3: and ended with something about it about if he would 846 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 3: like to create a full script for characters, list of 847 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 3: what to say and how so he just wants to 848 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: keep This guy is such a loser. 849 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 2: No way, this guy sucks. Did we just learn that? 850 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: Oh? Wait, no, he sucked the whole time. 851 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 3: Ugh. The short is the narrative is supposed to be 852 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 3: that I am unstable, he is concerned, and the friends 853 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 3: are all are there to all back them up and 854 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 3: label me a goal digging free loader who misinterpret awake 855 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 3: for hour. Our beloved deceased pet Larry said he felt 856 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: sick when he really saw what Caleb was capable of 857 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: and suggested I double check everything he had, even temporary 858 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: access to. I screenshotted it and sent other screenshots and 859 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 3: such with a full explanation of events to his parents, 860 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 3: who are retired and live in Aruba. I didn't expect 861 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 3: to hear anything, really, it was risky. I read a 862 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 3: lot of Reddit stories where the parents sided with their kids. 863 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: But this morning I got a notification. It was Caleb's mother, 864 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 3: Cassie female sixty five. I've always really liked her. She 865 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 3: always seems so sweet and fun and always has this 866 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 3: sort of yolo attitude. Haven't heard that in a long hello. 867 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 3: She asked to video chat, which we did just before 868 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 3: I started this update with Zelda by my side, also 869 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 3: still recording because we didn't know what to expect. Cassie 870 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 3: was so upset by this she was crying. Caleb's dad, Mike, 871 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 3: was traveling in the UK and for some reason wasn't reachable, 872 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 3: so poor Cassie was left to talk with me alone 873 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 3: about it all. I learned a lot for one, Caleb's 874 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 3: house is not Caleb's house. He did not buy it 875 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 3: from his folks like he told me he did, but 876 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 3: he is managing the house and it's care in exchange 877 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: for rent free life. He does not even pay the 878 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 3: utilities and services lawn care, monthly house cleaning, et cetera himself. 879 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 3: His car is the car they left here in the 880 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 3: States and it's paid off. This guy doesn't have bills 881 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 3: to care about at all. Yet when I do small 882 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 3: jobs or part times and give him money, he takes it, 883 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 3: claiming to use it for all the bills. He's behind a. 884 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 2: Dude, imagine being this guy and having a situation where 885 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 2: you're just like made in the shade and you can 886 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 2: just like have the best life you want. It's just 887 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 2: all in your hands and you just decide to be 888 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 2: a complete tool. 889 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 3: A complete This guy's thirty seven. 890 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 2: I wish I could, unfiltered give you my take on 891 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 2: this guy. 892 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 3: Cassie told me the text he sent me and videos 893 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 3: and stuff I shared with her were horrible, and she 894 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 3: is livid. She kept saying this is not the way 895 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 3: she raised him. But Mike is not his father, and 896 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 3: his bio dad Jesse is and was a total misogynist knucklehead, 897 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 3: and she suspects that where he got this crap was 898 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 3: from him. She's talking to Caleb in what in our 899 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 3: time in the state will be about an hour or so. 900 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 3: She apologized to me so much and asked if I 901 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 3: needed anything, money, food, a place to stay. To be honest, 902 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 3: I feel a little bit bad about it. I lied 903 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 3: and said I'm actually fine and got an apartment out 904 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 3: of town. I don't know why, but I just did. 905 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 3: I think it's just stay away from this family. Then 906 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 3: let Caleb get the you know, the punishment from his 907 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 3: parents or from whoever she said that was good and 908 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 3: to take care and if I need anything, to reach out. 909 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 3: It seems like everything is going superbly in the right 910 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 3: direction for OP. 911 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: Put this guy in a hole that goes all the 912 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 2: way through the earth and never let him out. 913 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: Just have him go back and forth until he. 914 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 3: Learns this this manchild, just stay away from him. Let's 915 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 3: finish the story. 916 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: Oh man. 917 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 3: So I am now just sitting here. Zelda's cooking much 918 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 3: childhood favorite and I'm sitting with the dogs watching Ironheart 919 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 3: on the big TV. That's everything so far. I want 920 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 3: stuff this sub with my drama any longer, and while 921 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 3: they're posted on my account or to others, slash more 922 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 3: appropriate subs as I find them. But I figured everyone 923 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 3: here who cared deserved to know how things went. My 924 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 3: friend helped me edit this down but says it's still long, 925 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: so sorry, I'm cutting out a lot. PS. Thanks for 926 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,959 Speaker 3: the kind messages. I am okay and say it safe 927 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 3: with Mabel's family. They treat me really well and I'm 928 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 3: just adjusting to it. It's odd not being on my 929 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 3: guard all the time. I found myself taking random long 930 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 3: naps and just enjoying feeling safe it's nice and that 931 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 3: is the end of this story. Oh man, Just. 932 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 2: NASA frog and here, that's what we're just gonna say, 933 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 2: NASA Frog. 934 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 3: Yes, and I think it's appropriate for you to still 935 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 3: mourn for Pepper, mourn for your father. That's you know, 936 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 3: that's just gonna come naturally and come and go. And 937 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 3: that's okay. Move on from that toxic piece of garbage 938 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 3: that you call an ex and live your best life. 939 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 3: What Cayden said, revenge is the you know. Revenge is 940 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 3: living the best life you know, And that's great. You 941 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 3: don't have to put any more effort or time into 942 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 3: your ex. Let him do his thing, make him make 943 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 3: he'll make himself look like an idiot what she already is. 944 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 3: So that's great. 945 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: Hey y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get 946 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: back to the stories. 947 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 3: But here's a quick three minute break from ASP for 948 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 3: more sponsors. 949 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 5: My daughter stood up for herself, but my family wasn't 950 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 5: happy about it. 951 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 6: You're not allowed to have a voice, woman, Sit down. 952 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 5: I need to see if I'm crazy here. My kid, 953 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 5: female thirteen, has a bully. He's one of those kids 954 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 5: who's related to someone in the school district. Dang it, 955 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 5: we're actually switching her into a new school because the 956 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 5: public schools have done nothing. And this past semester it 957 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 5: got physical. 958 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 6: That is scary. 959 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 5: I was livid the bully got suspension, but he's it's 960 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 5: been suspended before. I tried talking to the parents and 961 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 5: they made excuses, of which the wildest is that they'll probably. 962 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 6: End up together someday. 963 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 5: I told him, under no uncertain terms, that their son 964 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 5: is not to even look at my daughter, and his 965 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 5: only words to her need to be an apology. I 966 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,439 Speaker 5: got that well. He defended that what else do you want? 967 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from Live bri or Fry Calms, 968 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 5: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 969 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 5: to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. 970 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 6: So this summer she was in stem camp. 971 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 5: She begged to be signed up, but so was the bully, 972 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 5: and this time, during their outdoor break, the teacher was 973 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 5: physically on his phone when the bully, in full view 974 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 5: of multiple students, pushed my daughter and she turned and retaliated. 975 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,280 Speaker 5: The bully is now up for possible suspension from the camp, 976 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 5: not the district. But I lodged another formal complaint, this 977 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 5: time threatening a lawsuit. I asked my daughter if she 978 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 5: defended herself, and she said she was afraid he was 979 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 5: going to hurt her because he threatened. 980 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 6: To knock her out. 981 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 5: I said, okay, good job defending yourself. Glad you're okay, 982 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 5: Let's just catch a move and decompress. I told my 983 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 5: siblings on Father's Day and was immediately told by my 984 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 5: eldest brother and his wife that I should never have 985 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 5: encouraged her to fight anyone. 986 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 6: I argued that I didn't. 987 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 5: I'm glad she defended herself when she was scared and 988 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 5: the person I trusted her to care for her was 989 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 5: not even paying attention. They argued that now shall see 990 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 5: the old one too as okay, the next time she 991 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 5: gets her feelings hurt, that I'm a bad parent for 992 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 5: opening that door. 993 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 6: Am I. 994 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 5: I mean, if she's in trouble and in physical danger, 995 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 5: I don't want her to ever think she'll get in 996 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 5: trouble for defending herself. But now I'm second guessing everything. 997 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 5: She's seemingly okay now, and I took the week off 998 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 5: so we can celebrate Juneteenth together and just decompress from it. 999 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 5: But I want her to grow up and be safe. 1000 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 5: Am I the a hole for saying good job. And 1001 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 5: there is an edit folks and some comments in an update. 1002 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 6: But what do you think? No? No, I think no. 1003 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 4: I mean I get the idea, like, yeah, you don't 1004 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 4: want to like teach a child that like violence is 1005 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 4: okay to any sorts, but then they grow up, yeah, 1006 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 4: and then they have that. 1007 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 6: Mindset still and then they might be a dangerous situation. 1008 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 5: But also it's totally different to say yeah, violence is 1009 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 5: okay than to say defending yourself yeah, okay. Self defense 1010 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 5: is always okay. If someone is attacking you, yeah, push 1011 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 5: them off, Like I mean, if you're getting attacked on 1012 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 5: the street by someone, yeah, you can like punch them, 1013 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 5: like do what you need to do, Yeah, because your 1014 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 5: safety is at risk. 1015 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 4: Exactly, like if it was the kind of thing where 1016 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 4: it was like an accident or something like that. 1017 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 6: Like I don't know if there was one time where like. 1018 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 4: I was playing with my friends and then things got 1019 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 4: a little too rough and then I had to leave 1020 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 4: because I was like I get do this, and then 1021 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 4: my dad kind of jokeds like did you like hit 1022 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 4: him in my back? 1023 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 6: And it was like no, I'm not gonna do that 1024 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 6: because it was an accident, you know what I mean. 1025 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 4: They weren't like literally threatening me like this child is 1026 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 4: that would be okay. 1027 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 2: I think. 1028 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 5: Also a difference is, let's say this kid was bullying 1029 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 5: her verbally, M don't teach your kid to just punch 1030 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 5: the kid. You know, that's not like you don't want 1031 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 5: to be the first one to know and like start 1032 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 5: violence if kid pushes you, Yeah, I'd be like, Okay, 1033 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 5: don't touch me, you know. If you need to like 1034 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 5: defend yourself, that is totally different. 1035 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 6: Exactly. 1036 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 5: Holy crap, that's a lot of comments editing this. Multiple 1037 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 5: students confirm her story. So no, I don't think she's 1038 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 5: lying and started a fight for no reason. She's as 1039 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 5: level headed as they come. And I won't say she's 1040 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 5: never lied to me, but I will say I tend 1041 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 5: to know when she does. Cameras are being checked because 1042 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 5: I formally requested today. I'm not a dad, but a mom. 1043 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 5: Not everyone agreed with my brother, but enough of them 1044 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 5: did that made me question, and he and his wife 1045 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 5: were very insistent and some comments by ope. From what 1046 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 5: I understand of the situation, she ran for the teacher 1047 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 5: right after she threw the old one too, and there 1048 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 5: is an update. But yeah, we've got a lot of 1049 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 5: people saying the same thing. Kat says, it's in the 1050 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 5: name of self defense. Cat Lord says anyone who says 1051 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 5: op is the ale should be educated on the outcomes 1052 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,720 Speaker 5: bullying can have, especially physical bullying. 1053 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 6: Yeah not okay. 1054 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 5: Blash says, Yeah, the school will make the physical altercation 1055 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 5: problem and you don't want that on your child's record. 1056 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 6: What self defense is also important? 1057 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 5: Exactly, Yes, but let's get into this update one week later. So, 1058 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 5: about a week ago, I posted about a bullying situation 1059 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,720 Speaker 5: with my kid, who is female thirteen, and I mentioned 1060 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 5: this bully is a relative of someone who works high 1061 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 5: up in our district. I went into a meeting with 1062 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 5: the district after my formal request for the camera footage 1063 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,919 Speaker 5: of the event, and I continued to follow up via 1064 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 5: email and call, but kept getting stonewalled. I was frustrated, 1065 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 5: so I spoke with my best friend who works in education, 1066 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,879 Speaker 5: and she suggested a police report would quote. 1067 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 6: Put a Bunsen burner under their butts. 1068 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: She was right. 1069 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 5: Once I had a copy of my report for the 1070 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 5: harmful Act and armed with all my past complaints and 1071 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 5: emails with the resource officer of the kid's school. I 1072 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 5: sent it to my point of contact. 1073 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 6: With the district. 1074 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 5: It's a frickin' miracle. I got a call the same day. 1075 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 5: A meeting was arranged and I meet with them next week. 1076 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 5: Juneteenth was wonderful and my kid had a blast. She 1077 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 5: hasn't been punished, and honestly, I was really enjoying spending 1078 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,760 Speaker 5: time with her, so we took advantage of the time. 1079 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 5: Saw a movie, went shopping, et cetera. I work a 1080 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,720 Speaker 5: lot and am a single mom, so free time outside 1081 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 5: the general weekends has been rare as of late, especially 1082 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 5: now that she's doing camps, making friends and wanting to 1083 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 5: do sleepovers and such. I posted some photos on my 1084 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 5: private account and my brother sent me a text. I 1085 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 5: won't go into everything because his message was long, but 1086 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 5: basically he said, I'm spoiling her when she should be 1087 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 5: punished for fighting in school, and I'll be raising a criminal. 1088 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,839 Speaker 5: I told him that he can mind his business and 1089 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 5: his own children, and he said, she's not even really yours. 1090 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 6: Whoa what is she like adopted or something? 1091 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: They don't know? Do we know? 1092 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,240 Speaker 6: That's crazy? That's okay. 1093 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 5: My message back was that he's not been supportive since 1094 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 5: my husband passed away, and come to think of it, 1095 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 5: he wasn't supportive when we married. I wonder if maybe 1096 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 5: step child, so I don't take his opinion on my 1097 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 5: daughter with any high regard. And if he and his 1098 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 5: wife want it instilled in children that they should let 1099 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 5: someone hurt them or others and bullies should have their way, 1100 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 5: then maybe it's time spent less time around them. We 1101 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 5: were going to go to the birthday party for my 1102 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 5: sister in law before all of this happened, a family event. 1103 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 5: I think my daughter and I will skip that for now. 1104 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 5: I mean the fact that your brother doesn't see your 1105 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 5: daughter as your daughter. Yes, I wouldn't want him to 1106 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:14,439 Speaker 5: be around either. 1107 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely not. 1108 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 5: I'd be like, okay, cool, you don't think I'm raising 1109 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 5: my daughter right, yeah, see it's happened at all. 1110 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 4: And to say that she's raising a criminal, yeah, like 1111 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 4: I don't want that person saying that my daughter is 1112 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 4: a criminal around my daughter. 1113 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely not. 1114 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 5: No, And before it's asked, she is not biologically my daughter, 1115 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 5: but legally and in the way of the fact that 1116 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,399 Speaker 5: I love her more than anything. I formally adopted her 1117 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 5: when she was two after I married her father. He 1118 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,919 Speaker 5: passed away when she was six, and I've had soul 1119 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 5: custody since. Wow, her biological mother is not in the 1120 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,879 Speaker 5: picture since my husband passed. It's just been me and 1121 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 5: her in the day to day. I hoped to update 1122 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 5: after the school meeting, and there is a second update 1123 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,359 Speaker 5: sixteen days later. 1124 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 6: Do you have any thoughts before we jump into that. 1125 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,919 Speaker 6: I think that the brother's crazy. Yeah, well, just so disrespectful. 1126 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Like what does he want her to do 1127 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 4: if it gets into a worse situation when she's not 1128 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 4: just being violent out of nowhere, No, it's not. 1129 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 6: Violence for the sake of violence. 1130 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's being like threatened and bullied and pushed by 1131 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 4: this kid, and so yeah, she's gonna fight back. She's 1132 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 4: not gonna just like let the bullied get away with it. 1133 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:20,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1134 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 5: I also think there's this kind of I don't know 1135 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 5: if this is his thinking, but I think there is 1136 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 5: often an expectation for like young girls to not engage 1137 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 5: in any sort of like physical violence or you know, 1138 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 5: anything stuff like that. So maybe there's some element of 1139 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 5: that kind of thing, and just like, yeah, that definitely 1140 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 5: is a thing, and like just for women to expect 1141 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 5: to just like deal with it, yeah, and like not 1142 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 5: like to hit back, and yeah, you's just depending yourself, right, 1143 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 5: Like we're expected to just like kind of bury it. 1144 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,959 Speaker 6: And like handle it and stuff. And it's like no, no, 1145 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 6: no no, but there is an up date. 1146 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 5: Sixteen days later, we have the meeting over Zoom. I 1147 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 5: came in expecting to have to come in pupies blazoned. 1148 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 6: Like a maniac. 1149 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 5: I was ready to go off, go fully fair, But 1150 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,240 Speaker 5: I guess all the legal work I've been doing around 1151 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,320 Speaker 5: this was sufficient fire under the rears. I was indirectly 1152 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 5: asked to not further involve authorities. The footage finally found 1153 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 5: proved my daughter's story with this evidence and all the 1154 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 5: stuff I've managed to bring to the table thus having 1155 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 5: a lawyer's contact, and said to them, they finally expelled 1156 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 5: the kid. 1157 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 6: Wow, okay. 1158 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 5: I was assured he will not be at school next semester. 1159 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 5: It was a win, but not enough for me to 1160 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 5: stop the legal actions. Maybe that makes me the a hole, 1161 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 5: but eth it, I don't care. Charges are being pressed 1162 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 5: for harmful act armed with the video here, it's not 1163 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 5: life ruining unless he keeps the pattern of it. But 1164 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 5: I'm also looking to get my kid in a stem 1165 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 5: oriented school, since that's her passion right now. I looked 1166 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 5: at packages and tuitions, et cetera, and it will be 1167 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 5: tight but doable. And I truly believe she's gifted, smart, 1168 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 5: hard working enough that giving her a chance to explore 1169 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 5: this is worth any and. 1170 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 6: That should be it. 1171 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 1: Right. 1172 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,240 Speaker 6: Oh, you sweet so much child. 1173 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 5: My daughter doesn't even know about the meeting. She's been 1174 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 5: happily in camp elsewhere during the day. But a few 1175 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 5: days ago, uh oh, she asked me, Mama, do you 1176 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 5: think I'm a bad person. 1177 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 6: Who has been talking to this girl who knew? Did 1178 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 6: the uncle get her number or show up or something? Yeah? 1179 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 5: And I told her that I didn't. She asked me, 1180 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 5: why does her uncle think shoe? Oh my goodness, I'm 1181 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,280 Speaker 5: going no contact. I'm going freaking no contact. Wow, don't 1182 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 5: you talk to me or my daughter ever? 1183 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,720 Speaker 6: Again? I asked what she meant. 1184 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 5: My beloved brother's stepson has been texting my daughter, as 1185 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 5: they are actually close. Brother has been crap talking my kid. 1186 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 5: He calls her my stray kitten and not real family. 1187 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 6: That efing did it? 1188 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 5: I am having a barbecue at my place for Fourth 1189 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 5: of July and I formally uninvited him and his wife. 1190 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I sent him a text stating that the 1191 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 5: way he treats me and my kid is simply unacceptable. Well, 1192 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 5: I am a mom and my duty is to my kid. 1193 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 5: I cannot have someone who looks down on her and 1194 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 5: treats her badly come into her home where she is 1195 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 5: to be safe. He is not a safe person for 1196 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 5: my child and thus not welcome in my home. My 1197 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 5: brother lost his mind on me so badly. I had 1198 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 5: to mute his number a while to get some peace. 1199 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 5: He started with put dads and insults, but then he 1200 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 5: went for my kid. He called her some terrible things 1201 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 5: and then said that I'm brain passed away for keeping 1202 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 5: my stray after all the troubles she's made this guy. 1203 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 6: I hope this man never has kids. Yes, oh oh 1204 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 6: he doesn't. I can't use the son. 1205 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 5: Oh oh, cat Lord says, imagine being a full grown 1206 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 5: adult and bullying. 1207 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 6: A child lying back. 1208 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 5: That's why he was so like up in arms about not, 1209 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 5: you know, fighting back against the bully, because he's a bully. 1210 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, A lot of comments are saying that too, 1211 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 4: Like he definitely is a bully. That probably was a 1212 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 4: bully in school. Like, oh my gosh, it's terrible. 1213 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 6: I just asked, Wow, what is your problem with her? Really? 1214 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 6: You're doing that thing? 1215 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 5: Most hate her? Like, how does a grown man get 1216 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 5: off hating a literal child? He told me to f off, 1217 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 5: so I sent screenshots to mom. 1218 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 6: F this guy. 1219 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 5: He's my brother. I love him, but I do not 1220 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 5: like him. And if he's gonna show his old butt, 1221 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 5: may as well fetch mom so she can pull his. 1222 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 6: Stick out of it. That was an hour ago. 1223 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,439 Speaker 5: My kid and I headed out for pizza. Have fun, bro, 1224 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 5: you better be glad it's our mom and not me 1225 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 5: about to hand him his own hide. Tonight I will 1226 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 5: try to talk to my daughter about the school and 1227 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 5: sadly that uncle and auntie are Grade A liquid crabs. 1228 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 5: I won't use that phrase, but I'm pissed and so 1229 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 5: won't be around and we may be taking some time. 1230 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 6: Just turn me. 1231 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 5: We are a team, me and her against the world. 1232 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 5: I will always have her back. Oh and she and 1233 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 5: I will be taking rab Maga with the bully dealt with. 1234 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 5: I think this is my final update, folks. We're just 1235 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 5: about halfway through, so I wanted to say thanks to 1236 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,399 Speaker 5: everyone who kept this Mam insane and we're supportive. It's 1237 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 5: crazy how simple kind and affirming words can bolster a person. 1238 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 5: And Opie says, he's already a hypocrite. He's biologically my cousin. 1239 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:09,919 Speaker 5: He's adopted himself. 1240 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 6: Shut up. I wonder if. 1241 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 5: That's where some of that anger and resentment comes from. Yeah, 1242 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 5: being adopted himself. 1243 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he has had like some sort of pressure 1244 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 4: on him to be like the perfect kid because he 1245 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 4: didn't feel like he. 1246 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 6: Was a part of the family. 1247 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 4: And now that this kid isn't being perfect, Yeah, he's 1248 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 4: like retaliating and like getting all upset. I wonder, Ah, man, 1249 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 4: that's why I told mom I don't have the brain 1250 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 4: space or energy to unravel his non logic. I mean, 1251 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 4: she's mixed Afro Caribbean and Romanian anyone on the outside 1252 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 4: looking in. Just to assume my light husband was white, 1253 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 4: he was Romanian, and that she is my biokid as 1254 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 4: I am black. 1255 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 6: Update three before we get into. 1256 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 4: That, and let's use the Krama god that they're learning 1257 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 4: against this brother Susan against him. 1258 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 6: Which one's Krabama God? 1259 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 4: Is that like the pressure like the points, it's the 1260 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 4: likes raliant one where I think it's more about like close. 1261 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 6: It's like mostly self defense, but it's what's. 1262 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 5: The one with all the like the pass away points, 1263 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 5: you know, like where you're like. 1264 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 6: Isn't that like mean some sort of Japanese technique. I 1265 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 6: don't know. Someone tell me. 1266 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 5: I don't know, but uh, I think that's a great idea. 1267 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 5: Grandpa got sick, your brother is being an a hole, 1268 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 5: and hopefully he'll get over himself. 1269 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, but don't have your DV. Really I kind of 1270 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 6: doubt it at this point though, but uh, we got 1271 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 6: an update. 1272 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,959 Speaker 5: I am without words. A couple days ago, I told 1273 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 5: my eldest brother Mark and by proxy also his wife Julie, 1274 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 5: to stick it where the sunknowns shine after Mark went 1275 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 5: on a tech storm about my adopted daughter. For background, 1276 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 5: my daughter Viv may not be biologically mine, but she 1277 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 5: is my daughter. I've known her since her first year 1278 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 5: of life. I've been her mom since I married her 1279 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 5: father when she was too small to even really remember, 1280 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 5: and legally adopted her. She's only always ever called me mama. 1281 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 5: When my husband passed away, it became me and her 1282 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 5: against the world, the dynamic duo. Recently, VV didn't start 1283 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 5: a fight, but finished it with a bully she'd endured 1284 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 5: for much longer than she should have to. The whole 1285 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 5: saga is on my account if you want to see it, 1286 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 5: But in short, she ended up defending herself from him physically. 1287 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 5: He's now expelled. My daughter was not punished at home. 1288 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 5: In fact, I told her good job. That's where my 1289 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 5: butt crack brain brother got on his bs. He's never 1290 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 5: liked my late husband unless our daughter, and always had 1291 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 5: something rude to say about them, but this sent him 1292 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 5: into a huge tirade on how vv we'll grow up. 1293 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 5: Debbi ac craminal that I'm encouraging violence and the next 1294 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 5: time she gets her feelings hurt, she'll think it's okay 1295 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 5: to start a fight. Truly said she is concerned because 1296 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 5: single parent households produce angry and bottled up children who 1297 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 5: are far more likely to end up in jail. I 1298 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 5: told them I never asked for their opinions, and the 1299 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 5: rest of my siblings agreed with me. But my brother 1300 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 5: wasn't done. He texted me vile things about my daughter 1301 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 5: and his stepson, sent video and screenshots of my brother 1302 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 5: calling her a stray kitten is a parent, favorite insult 1303 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 5: and saying that she's not my child and so on, 1304 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 5: and invited him from the fourth told him he is 1305 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 5: not to talk to or even look at my child 1306 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 5: until he fixes his attitude, and he just doubled down. 1307 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 5: Let me be clear, he is the eldest, but he 1308 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 5: is adopted too. He is biologically my cousin. Two of 1309 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 5: his four kids are step children. Julie is a widow. 1310 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 5: His hypocrisy is breathtaking. So I had my daughter sent 1311 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 5: over all the evidence she had and deleted off her phone, 1312 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 5: and I took all my screenshots in the like and 1313 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 5: sent it to my mom. 1314 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 6: I snitched so hard. I don't have time for this. 1315 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 5: BS don't know what she said to him, but she 1316 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 5: called me back that night a few hours later and 1317 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 5: told me to let her know if he decides to. 1318 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 6: Show his whole butt again. 1319 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 5: She talked to VV on speaker while I finished making 1320 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 5: us some treats before bed, and told her that she 1321 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 5: loves her very much, that Uncle Mark is being a knucklehead, 1322 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 5: and if he or Aunt Julie tried to bother VV 1323 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 5: or I again to tell her it rained like crazy 1324 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 5: the fourth, So my barbecue only had a handful of 1325 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 5: folks who lived near me from the family and some friends. 1326 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 6: VV was happy punting. 1327 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 5: Her other uncle's butts at Mario Kart, and all the 1328 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 5: adults are drinking and dancing or watching the rain on 1329 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 5: my porch. 1330 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 6: When who walks in? No Live is supposed to be 1331 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 6: arm Fords July. Why does he even want to be there? 1332 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 4: If he hates this like this little girl like he's 1333 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 4: got so much little girl like, why does he. 1334 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 6: Even want to be there? 1335 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 5: No Mark, Julie, there are four kids? Really strolls right 1336 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 5: up to me with old butt chicken and asks where 1337 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 5: she can put it down. I was like, sorry, what? 1338 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 5: I asked her what she was doing here and why 1339 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 5: they were here. Apparently my dear old Road didn't tell 1340 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 5: her about our most recent spat and the imitation being revoked. 1341 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 5: She looked truly shocked. I don't even care because she 1342 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 5: said same nasty stuff, so I don't care if we're 1343 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 5: kicking him out. I'm livid by this point, but the 1344 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 5: kids are playing video games and VV looks happy. She's 1345 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 5: pointedly ignoring my brother who who said a low to her, 1346 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 5: And when he doesn't get an answer, he throws his 1347 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 5: hands up and says, so much for manners, What don't 1348 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 5: you know about manners. 1349 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 6: Sorry, I don't think you know anything. 1350 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 5: My other brother, Zeke, just goes up to him and 1351 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 5: starts to talk to him quietly. I could hear Mark arguing, 1352 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 5: but Zeke just kept his hand on his shoulder. I 1353 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 5: looked at Julie, who looked like she was in panic 1354 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 5: fix it mode. I told her, listen, if they want 1355 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 5: to leave the kids here for a couple hours, that's fine, 1356 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 5: but my brother's not welcome in my home, so she'll 1357 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 5: have to be the one to pick them up. She 1358 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 5: thanked me and went to my brother, who now had 1359 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 5: both our other brothers talking to him. 1360 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 6: They all walk him out. I heard him say kids, 1361 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 6: let's go, and his wife. 1362 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 5: Said, uh, kids, I'll be back at three. 1363 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 6: He could and pulled them out. 1364 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 5: I sent him a text reminding him not to speak 1365 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 5: to my child and he is not welcome in my 1366 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 5: home until he apologizes for all the verbal towards Phoebe 1367 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 5: and fixes his attitudes about her. My stepdad and Mom 1368 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 5: arrived not long after, and when he was told what happened, 1369 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 5: Dad started to take his pipe to the porch and 1370 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 5: sat right next to the front. Mom arranged it with 1371 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 5: Julie that she will take the kids home when she leaves, 1372 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 5: and we managed to have a good time. Today Sunday, 1373 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 5: my mom had asked we all go this week, so 1374 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 5: we did. She did warn me Mark might be there, 1375 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 5: and I'm assuming to church, I warned VV. She said 1376 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 5: it was fine. I told mom, it's fine, but Mark 1377 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 5: needs to give Viv a wide berth. And I told 1378 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,959 Speaker 5: Mark via text that he is to stay away from 1379 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 5: my child. He replied, I don't need reminders. 1380 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 6: Okay. 1381 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 5: Then service went fine. I'm not much of a church person, 1382 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 5: but VV had a solo and saying beautifully, so this 1383 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 5: mama is happy? 1384 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 6: How sweet? 1385 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 5: There was food happening in the event hall, and VV 1386 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 5: asks if she can stay awhile and chat with her friends. Sure, 1387 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 5: I say, have fun. All was well for about forty 1388 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 5: five minutes. I was sitting with stepdad and one of 1389 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 5: my brothers when Mark comes over to say his byes. 1390 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 5: Everyone gets a hug, but me, fine, mommy, He says, 1391 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 5: kitty did a good job up there. Well, this kid's 1392 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 5: got You're back to his scar And I said who? 1393 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 5: And I could see that it was in that moment 1394 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 5: he knew he fed up. I don't know if he 1395 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 5: meant to say kitty or not. I didn't care. I 1396 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 5: said who again, and he metured Vivica and I nodded 1397 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 5: and told him that is her name, same name, she said. 1398 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,959 Speaker 5: The whole time, Julie is trying to get him to leave, 1399 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 5: and he's almost leaving when VV and her friends come up. 1400 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 5: She told me later she saw her uncle come up 1401 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 5: to us and not hug me, and that made her mad, 1402 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 5: so she came up to be near for support with 1403 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 5: her friends. I did tell her that I'm grown and 1404 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 5: don't need her to come to my defense, but it's 1405 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 5: my job to protect her, not the other way around, 1406 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 5: and her response just a nod. Kids Mark complimented VV, 1407 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 5: and she gave a very plain thanks, then asked if 1408 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 5: I was ready to go. I said sure if she is, 1409 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 5: Do you have any final thoughts? I like this, mom, Yeah, 1410 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 5: she's willing to go to bat for a kid. 1411 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1412 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 4: Fun, mama bear, I will protect you from my old brother. Yeah. 1413 01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 6: I like he's like, Oh, kitty did one? She said, 1414 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 6: what what? Who who is that? 1415 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1416 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 6: I don't know a kiddy. You mean my daughter, Vivica? 1417 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 6: You know her name? 1418 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 1: Oh? 1419 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 6: Say it? Shay it trying to give him swirly. 1420 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 5: Literally, there's a little bit left to this story, but 1421 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 5: I think this mom has got her daughters back, and. 1422 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 6: That's all you can ask for. 1423 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Mark sent me a short text telling me I 1424 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 5: embarrassed him and our whole family with my show I 1425 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 5: put on, or perhaps you embarrassed yourself. 1426 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 6: Good, you should be embarrassed. 1427 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 5: He's upset now because we don't need to make our 1428 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 5: issues everyone's business at church. And then I don't even 1429 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 5: go to church, so why invade his safe space. He 1430 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,479 Speaker 5: called me immature and that I need to stay away 1431 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 5: from his kids so I don't teach them such poor manners. 1432 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 5: I haven't even responded. VV is getting dressed and we 1433 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 5: are going to my mom's for lunch. Stepdad said Mark 1434 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 5: outright refuse to come when he confirmed I would be there. 1435 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 5: Marcus told our parents if I am somewhere, he won't be. 1436 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 5: My replied, does he promise? I told my dad if 1437 01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 5: he wants to be this way, we can just go 1438 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 5: full no conte. I don't have patience for this nonsense, 1439 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 5: and that also meant I am not helping out next 1440 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 5: time he needs anything. 1441 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 6: I'm out. Dad got quiet. 1442 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 5: And said he gets it, but to remember that Mark's 1443 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 5: kids did nothing. He's okay if I want to stick 1444 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 5: it to Mark, but asks I don't friendly fire on 1445 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 5: the children. I told him we'll talk when we get there. 1446 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 5: He's gonna want to bring up our family vacation, of 1447 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,480 Speaker 5: which I took care of the hotel and passes for. 1448 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 5: Because my job is within that industry, I'm usually the 1449 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 5: go to for these things. We're supposed to go for 1450 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 5: the first week of August. We try to do one 1451 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 5: vacation as a big extended family per year. We'll see 1452 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 5: how that efing goes this year, and that is the 1453 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 5: end of that story, folks.