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Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Good got But like I said, I

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Speaker 1: like the reverse better fly technique. And I was saying,

426
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Speaker 1: if you guys are interested in seeing how I do that,

427
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: you can find a tutorial on the on the website

428
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: right now. With bigger species, I always take the cheeks

429
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: and the collars and the bellies because that's really good

430
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: meat that often gets wasted, and it's there's no reason

431
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: to I try to make stocks or stews out of

432
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: skeletons and other leftovers. Admittedly, sometimes I get lazy, and

433
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: I'll always do it. I fail there too, man, I

434
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: always have that intention, and it's just like you're tired

435
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. You got a freezer,

436
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: you got it, you got a vaccineal what you already

437
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 1: have to deal with, and it's like, God, I do

438
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: I fail there miserably? I'd say I'm batting about, but

439
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: I'd like to get better there, and I'm not much

440
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: like in general, I'm not an innards guy, and I

441
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: don't have a yard really, so like I can't just

442
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: bury the fish guts for fertilizer. I do. Like next

443
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: summer I'm gonna try and work on some raised beds

444
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: and see if I can figure out how to use

445
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: guts fish guts in that as fertilizer if I don't

446
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 1: know how to do it, though, if anybody out there

447
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: has pointers, please let me know. I've done it with

448
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: American shad, like brought some shad home, cut it up,

449
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: and like as my wife was putting in tomato plants,

450
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: just put a chunk of it under dude. We had

451
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: hell of it. It worked. It does work. I don't

452
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,959
Speaker 1: know if I I did it right. I just did

453
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: it half fast, but it worked. The point of all

454
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: this is that I'm trying to get better about maximizing

455
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: the fish I keep. And and this week I found

456
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: a really cool story about this organization in New Zealand

457
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: who's figured out a way to utilize the discarded part

458
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: of fish, feed hungry people and generate self sustaining revenue.

459
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: The organization is called Kaika, which I think translates to

460
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: roughly using aquatic animals or something like that. I don't

461
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: my Mauori is not that great anyway. They take the

462
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: discarded fish parts and they distribute them through a Maori

463
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: community hall in South Auckland. And now Polynesian cultures like Maudi,

464
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: they know how to prepare fish heads and skeletons, right,

465
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: like maximizing the use of whole fish is just part

466
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Speaker 1: of their cultural heritage. And that's true for a lot

467
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: of Polynesians. I remember that there's this Hawaiian dude I

468
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: used to fish with growing up, and he would always

469
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: just straight eat the eyeballs out of the fish we caught,

470
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: like no cooking, just pop them and and and he

471
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: loved them. And he would tell me and I think

472
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: he was just like messing with the white kid, but

473
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: he would mess he'd tell me like even the fish

474
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: I has helped me, see, Mike like the fish and

475
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: I catch more fish. And maybe he was just messing

476
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: with me. But the dude was legit and he always

477
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: caught more fish than me, and maybe that was the

478
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: reason why. I don't know. But getting back to New Zealand,

479
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: the folks getting these heads and skeletons. They're not viewing

480
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: them as refuse right, Like fish heads were often reserved

481
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: for people of like super high status and Polynesian cultures.

482
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: They're they're a delicacy. So the fish are going to

483
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: people who genuinely want them and who know what to

484
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Speaker 1: do with them. Also, we're talking about families who could

485
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: use some help right now. We're talking about families who

486
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: are struggling to to make ends meet and and to

487
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: feed themselves and feed their kids. So Kayika this organization

488
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: started in two thousand and sixteen when a boating club

489
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: in Auckland wanted to figure out a solution to a problem.

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00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: Their members would come in from fishing, they'd clean their

491
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: fish and then dump pounds and pounds of fish craps

492
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: that would pretty quickly start to rot and stink, and

493
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: not only was it messy, but there are sold club members.

494
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: He thought it was it was wasteful, and they wanted

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00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: to come up with a better system. So they reached

496
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: out to the manager of this Mauori community center who

497
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: said that they would yeah, they'd love to have those

498
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: fish scraps and that we're currently being wasted. So they

499
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: got together and they opened a fish cleaning station at

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00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: the boating club where they charged two dollars to cut

501
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: up the fish. Right, so the anglers would bring a fish,

502
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: they give them two bucks, they give them the fish,

503
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: they get the flat's back, and then everything else got

504
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: brought to these families and need huh. But then the

505
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: coronavirus lockdown hit and when that happened, at the time

506
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: that the lockdown happened, this this fish station was distributing

507
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: five dred and fifty pounds of fish two people who

508
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: needed it every week. But then the lockdown completely put

509
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: a hall to recreational fishing and it cut off access

510
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: to food. You know, particularly time when when these vulnerable

511
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: communities were they were like they were experiencing even more

512
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: need sure less. So Kaika, I gotta give these guys credit.

513
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: They quickly pivoted and they started working with commercial fishing

514
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 1: companies in the area. And then after they started doing that,

515
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: they're bringing a nearly two thousand pounds of fish per week.

516
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 1: But without the cleaning station, they didn't have any income

517
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: to support the program, so so they were relying on

518
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: donations and things. So fast forward to now right and

519
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: new Zealand, unlike here, has COVID under control. So they're

520
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: heading into their summer and their fishing season like full bore,

521
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: and they've reopened this fish cleaning station, so they're getting

522
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: all the fish from that, plus their partnerships with the

523
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Speaker 1: commercial fishermen, which means they're bringing a ton of food.

524
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Speaker 1: And they're also hoping that the revenue from that fish

525
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: cleaning station will will be enough to make this program

526
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: self sustaining and even employee several community members full time.

527
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Speaker 1: I don't actually have a way to like adopt this

528
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: model elsewhere, Like I haven't figured that out because I

529
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: think it's kind of uniquely suited in New Zealand. But

530
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: I have to say that I find this to be

531
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: such an elegant solution to multiple problems right there. Their

532
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: maximum using the yield of fish, they're feeding hungry people there,

533
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: rejuvenating cultural traditions, they're creating a self sustaining nonprofit that

534
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: does not rely on grants or donations, and they're even

535
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: managing to employ a few people who need jobs. I

536
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: just love everything about what's going on here. I think

537
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. It is, but it'd be a very hard

538
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: thing to replicate here, because where do you do it? Like,

539
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: where where is there a fishery plus enough people that

540
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: could utilize that and need that, you know, without shipping.

541
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Speaker 1: You know, though, I will say what comes to mind,

542
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: and it's a much lesser scale, um, you know, by

543
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: a long shot, but it deserves a nod. Throughout the

544
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: early part of the pandemic, I had had several buddies

545
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: um in Key West, including my old buddy Captain Mike

546
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: Weinhoferre down there, that they publicly on social media they'd

547
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: go out and fish their charters or even just go

548
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: fish for fun, burn their own gas, you know, catch

549
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: king Max whatever whatever they were catching, and just publicly

550
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: put on there like if you need fish, like you

551
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: come to the dock, like I'll cut this up, like

552
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: if anybody's having a hard time getting food or wants

553
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: fresh fish like And there was a little piece of

554
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: that sort of rally behind that. But this is an

555
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: amazing idea. It's just where where do you do it? Yeah?

556
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: The other wrinkle there is like for for the folks

557
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: that are getting this, it's it's not like they're getting

558
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: trash right there there. For them, it's it's genuinely like,

559
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: oh sweet, this is the part of the fish. We like.

560
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: If we were to try to do that in American culture,

561
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: it would be insulting because we'd be giving people ship

562
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: that they didn't want. And that's not that's not a solution. Um.

563
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: So I don't have like a way of bringing this here.

564
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think the model necessarily is replicable.

565
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: But things like this where you can solve multiple problems

566
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: at once and create something that is not reliant on philanthropy, right,

567
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: where it's self sustaining and generates revenue, like these are

568
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: the things that I love. Yes, dude, it's an awesome idea,

569
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: but you're absolutely right. It's like the first step would

570
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: be getting people to appreciate a giant fish head. And

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00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: we just we just we just don't hear. We just

572
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: don't here. This is a weird transition, but you know,

573
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: so here here's something that that works in another country

574
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: that does not work here, similar to how football works

575
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: here but not in other countries. So that's that's that's

576
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: my transition for this story. Um, and again this is

577
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: um much less touchy feely. Are you a football fan?

578
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: You are a football fan to some degree, right, I

579
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: like football. Yeah yeah, I'm not anti at all. I

580
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: have at different points in my life followed football. Yeah yeah,

581
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm not. Like I kind of was when I was

582
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: a kid. But now, to be honest, man, like, I

583
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: give not two ships about any professional sports. And if

584
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: I just lost friends over that or something, I'm sorry.

585
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: Like I do enjoy a good Super Bowl party, but

586
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: if I'm not invited to one, I probably won't even

587
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: watch the Super Bowl, you know. And I was happy,

588
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: happy when the Eagles won the Super Bowl, but then

589
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: quickly I had to throw of the family in the

590
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: basement because like it was armageddon outside. The windows rattled

591
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: from the explosives for hours. Anyway, why does this matter, Well,

592
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: because this little ditty from Mississippi's Clareon Ledger is about

593
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders and I used to collect his sports cards

594
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: back in the day. But this is about Dion getting

595
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: arrested while fishing, and he he talked about this recently

596
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: in an interview on the Pro Football Show. So there's

597
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: a video of this out there, and it happened years ago,

598
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: but he's just telling the story now. And as it goes,

599
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: after Dion went pro, he says he did what what

600
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: all pro sports people do, I guess, and build himself

601
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: a million dollar home in a beautiful gated community in Florida.

602
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: And this house was close to the airport, he says,

603
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: though I'm not sure which airport, but regardless, one day

604
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: he noticed the lake near the airport that he says

605
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: could not have been seen from the road, which makes

606
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: me wonder if he saw it from the air. And

607
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: I get that because, let me tell you, there's some

608
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 1: incredibly juicy water, like at the Orlando Airport and the

609
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: Philly airport. And every time I flat a Philly I'm

610
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: like that swampy ship right there's got to be loaded

611
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: with snakeheads and both fins. Whenever I'm on the monorail

612
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: in Orlando, I'm like, there are ten pound hall Larry's

613
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: out you. We've both been there. Dude, you're on the

614
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: You're like looking at that like nobody's casted anything in

615
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: there ever, even though that's probably not true. But anyway,

616
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: I'd never have the guts to fish any of these

617
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: places because I don't want to end up like Dion Sanders.

618
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: So Dion just just drove on over to this lake

619
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: right just down some dirt road with with a small

620
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: boat in the back of his pickup, dropped it in

621
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: and set off a fishing and in the interview, he

622
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: says he was so pumped because there was no one

623
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: else there. Well, duh, like I know why there was

624
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: no one else there, and he starts hammering large mouth

625
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: left and right when the police rolled in and they

626
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: wave him over, and I could read you Dion's reaction,

627
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: but let's have filter it up and let Dion explain

628
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: how he reacted to the authorities. Police come up, what's up?

629
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: You need to come in? But what no trespass Ain't

630
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: nobody cares? Hey, nobody cares. What are you talking about?

631
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: So when the police insisted that they would in fact

632
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: be taking him to jail for trespassing. After that exchange,

633
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: Dion decided and I quote, I may as well enjoy myself,

634
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: and he stayed out for another hour and caught a

635
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: bunch of bass before coming in and going to jail. Now,

636
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: the funny twists on this story is that Dion was

637
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: in his hometown at the time of the arrest, and

638
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: he was there to play a charity basketball game with

639
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: his celebrity friends against the local media and police department,

640
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: and also, and this is my favorite part. Right, once

641
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: word of his arrest got out for this matter, Dion

642
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: says he got millions of offers to fish private water

643
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: all over the country, in every state. And this that's

644
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: the part of this. While it's a funny story, they

645
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: grinds my gears because I'm betting that quite a few

646
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: people listening to this, and perhaps maybe even the guy's

647
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: hosting it, I don't know, at some point may have

648
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: trespassed a bit to fish younger days we're talking about here.

649
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: But what drives me nuts is like now that we're

650
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: like quote fishing industry professionals, if you or I got

651
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: nailed for trespassing the fish, like, we'd be done. We'd

652
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: may be ruined. Nobody's gonna call us and say, hey,

653
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: sorry that happened. Come fish my private strategy, this Atlantic

654
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: salmon stream in Quebec. Like, that's not the way that's

655
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: gonna go down. But Dion Sanders gets pinched at the

656
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: airports and he's the man, and that's so unfair. I

657
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: think it is. And and I actually so this resonates

658
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: with me in a lot of ways. And you know,

659
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: except for the fact that I'm not deon Sanders, nor

660
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: do I have anything like his life. But there are

661
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: some really good bone fish flats not far from the

662
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: airport on the island where I grew up. What is

663
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: it with airports, dude? There's like a good fishing around

664
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: the airport there always is, right, and most of them

665
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: are totally legit. It's no problem. But there's this one

666
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: flat that borders on one of the runways and it

667
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: is not legal to fish that flat. But first, it's

668
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: not that all the other ones get all this pressure

669
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: and that one doesn't. So we call that flat helen

670
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: Keller flat because like it's not appropriate, but the you

671
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: get the joke there, and uh, I have been chased

672
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: off of that by the airport police boat more than

673
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: once because like it's just so juicy and you're getting

674
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: your teeth kicked in by these fish, and you're like,

675
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: all I gotta do is go fifty yards over there.

676
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: I know I can catch one, And then you end

677
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: up going there, and you end up doing it. Most

678
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: of the time it's fine, but then ten percent of

679
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: the time the cops get called and they come chasing

680
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: in their police boat. You gotta yeah, it's it's this

681
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: is dude, This is a huge thing here. I mean

682
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: one of the biggest places where that this is a

683
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: constant infraction um Jamaica Bay in Long Island. I mean,

684
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: Jamaica Bay is an incredib able striper fishery. It's not

685
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: that big and for a million different reasons, giant schools

686
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: of blue fish and stripers every year pile into Jamaica Bay.

687
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: And literally the end of the runway at JFK is

688
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: like right there, and there's buoy's all over the place

689
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: saying you can't get any closer than this, And every

690
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: f and time on there there's like the blitz of

691
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: the century going off right on the other side of

692
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: the buoys, and and dudes, dudes risk it all the time,

693
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: the kayakers at night. It's a big thing here. But

694
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: true story, man, Like if it's near runway, it's good. Yeah, inevitably,

695
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: inevitably true. And like we're telling these stories about flats

696
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: fishing and Florida fishing and all this warm stuff. And

697
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna close out news with the opposite kind of fishing,

698
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: right because we're moving into ice season, at least for

699
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: for those of us who live in places that have

700
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 1: ice fishing seasons, and and we're right in the middle

701
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: of the fur Head Ice Tour, which is the Mediator

702
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: ice fishing series that we produced earlier this year. And

703
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: and if you haven't already, should definitely check that out. Yeah,

704
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: you need to be watching that. It's it's worth it.

705
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: So I felt like it would be appropriate to bring

706
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: an ice fishing story to kick off ice season. And

707
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: they're there are quite a few folks for good reason,

708
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: who feel like, I don't know, they feel like there's

709
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: an impact of technology on ice fishing is a sport

710
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: that that that they don't really like. Like that's some

711
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: one of the digs I hear about ice fishing, Right,

712
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: Some people think, Yeah, I mean you got the new

713
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: flashers and the cameras and the battery powered augers and

714
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: the track side by sides and like super pimped out

715
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: ice palaces with couches and big screen trevs and full kitchens, right,

716
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: And and some people think that ice fishing has lost

717
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: some of its soul. I gotta say, that's an argument

718
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: that I hope we get to have on this show

719
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: at some point, But that's not where I'm going with this.

720
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: This is a story where technology played a very different

721
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: role for a particular ice angler. Last January, Jordan's tun

722
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: Tarski was fishing the Black River near Watertown, New York.

723
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: Is it Watertown or Waterton? Watertown? Watertown? Okay, So he's

724
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: fishing the Black over near Watertown when he caught just

725
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: this absolute pig of a sunfish and uh, and he

726
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: brought it up and he figured, man, this thing is

727
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: the biggest one I've ever caught. He figured you should

728
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: probably enter it into the New York State Winter Classic

729
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: Fishing Tournament, see if he could see if he gets

730
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: some money. You know, are you are you familiar with

731
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: this tournament. I'm not familiar with the tournament, but I

732
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: have heard whispers of this, of this story. So I'm

733
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: glad that I'm glad that we're doing this one. Yeah,

734
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems like a fun kind of

735
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: community fishing tournament. Folks come together and sponsored it. It

736
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: seems like the kind of thing that I would enjoy. Anyway,

737
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Jordan took the fish to a local hardware store where

738
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: they had an official scale, and it weighed in at

739
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: one pound nine ounces, which is the biggest sunfish ever

740
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: recorded in the Winter Classic tournament, which is great for

741
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Jordan's it's a pumpkin. Let let me finish the story. Sorry,

742
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: but that's where this gets interesting, because the fish had

743
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: the physical characteristics of both pumpkin seed and a bluegill. Ah. Now,

744
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: if it were to be classified as a bluegill, it

745
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: would be a hell of a fish. But that's all.

746
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,959
Speaker 1: If it were classified as a pumpkin seed, it would

747
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: tie the New York state record, So I can't tell

748
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: which one it is. Jordan then brought the fish to

749
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: the regional office of the Department of Environmental Conservation to

750
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: give it to some biologists, figured they'd be able to tell. Nope.

751
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: The biologist they take a look like, I don't know.

752
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a blue girl. Maybe it's pump because he

753
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: might be a hybrid. We can't tell. And I think

754
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: this is where I'd be like, all right, I don't

755
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: care enough cool, I'll enter it in the tournament. I'll

756
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: get some money. I'm done. But not Jordan's no, no, no.

757
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: He was not going to be deterred from from like

758
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: getting to some game his name in the record books.

759
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: He was not going to be stopped. So he then

760
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: drove to Albany to get Albany excuse me, then drove

761
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: to Albany to the New York State Museum where they

762
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: would help him do like get get hooked up with

763
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: a DNA analysis of the fish. Nine months later, just

764
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: last week, the results came in. The fish turned out

765
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: to be pure pumpkin seed. Jordan officially tied the state

766
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: record that was set back in Good for him sticking

767
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: to his guns on that one. Just wouldn't let it

768
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: go just just I have to agree. I have to agree.

769
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: Good on him. But you know, like I can't think

770
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: of very like other than I don't know, striped bass. Maybe,

771
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: like it was just such an important record that so

772
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: many people cared about. I don't know if I would

773
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: have gone through all that either, Nope, no, that's not

774
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: that's this is I'm not throwing shade Jordan's I love

775
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: this story. I'm glad you did it, but I definitely

776
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: would have stopped. Like I probably would have gone to

777
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: the like to check it with a biology be like,

778
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: hey man, do you know what this is? And they'd

779
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know. I'm like all right, cool,

780
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go eat it. Then that would have been

781
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: the end of it for me. I'm gonna get I'm

782
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: gonna get a big golf thanks. Well, there you go,

783
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: New York. You've got uh well, I mean you don't

784
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: really have a new record to beat. You have an

785
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: old record to beat because this one just tied it.

786
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: It's like that's a little that's a little disappointing, like

787
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: after all that like dude couldn't get it by an

788
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: extra little stag and tide like the world record large mouth.

789
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: Oh man, after all that time. Anyway, Okay, so Phil,

790
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: you've got a lot to work with, some some real

791
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: interesting science based news stories here from from Miles and

792
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: just my total bullshit. So um, have fun picking. Okay,

793
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: don't make it awkward. We're gonna make it awkward when

794
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: Phil is done though with awkward moments and angling presenting

795
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: our first fan photo like Babe Ruth pointing to the

796
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: outfield stands Joe Surmellie calling his own mediocrity. Miles Nulta,

797
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: you're the winner this week, Joe. I think you'll be

798
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: all right. Just to make yourself a boiler maker, channel

799
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: your inner Smeegel and take a bite out of a

800
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: big COVID free raw fish, just just right out of

801
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: the middle. So juicy sweet, what did you take a

802
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: picture A life back? Well, the time has finally come.

803
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: Many of you have sent in awful, awkward and just

804
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: generally hilarious fishing photos and uh, you know, I'm just

805
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: gonna say, Joe that this segment idea is already a

806
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: success if you ask me, because I have been thoroughly entertained.

807
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: I it is just kind of I've I've actually shirked

808
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: more important work because I get lost looking at these

809
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: photos and just a few things I just want to

810
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: throw out there, like zoo Baz. Okay, got a lot

811
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: of zoo Baz, but I currently own the zoo Baz scene,

812
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: right like I like, I'm not ready to give up

813
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: the zoo Baz crown yet. Um so we might bank

814
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: those for later. But we do appreciate all the zoo bas,

815
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: but we've also gotten some great ones that we just

816
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: don't seem to know how to spin outside like a

817
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: personal attack. Like we love to you guys, and we're

818
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: not trying to be mean, you know what I'm saying.

819
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: But but when all we've got is like you know,

820
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: your hair cutting and look of hopeless depression, Like where

821
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: do we go with that? So we're being very picky

822
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: and shoes. He trying to find the right ones. But God,

823
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: are we having a good time looking at all of them? Yes? Yes,

824
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: just please keep flooding them in because it is the

825
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: highlight of my day a lot of time. And and

826
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: now we're gonna share some of this joy and weirdness

827
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: with all of you, our first fans. Submission for awkward

828
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: Moments and fishing comes from Zach Kantos. I hope I'm

829
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,479
Speaker 1: pronouncing that right, Zack. And in this photo we see

830
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: young Zach sitting in a boat anchored in the middle

831
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: of a placid river. Behind him, the fall colors are

832
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: just starting to paint the tips of the deciduous backdrop

833
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: in yellow orange, a bit of umber perhaps, And in

834
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: the center of this picture has seen Zack is holding

835
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: his very first king salmon. Well he's he's attempting to

836
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: hold it anyway. All we can really see is the

837
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: salmon's bell as it's in the middle of a valiant

838
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: attempt to escape his grasp and return to the river

839
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: so that it can complete its mission of egg fertilization

840
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: before it's biological shot clock expires. And judging by the

841
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: putrid green to Alabama mud black of this fish's body color.

842
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: There's not much time left and the thing is for

843
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: for his part, Zack doesn't look like a man who's

844
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: in the process of dropping a half rotted mud shark,

845
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: as I call him, onto the deck of a john boat. Uh.

846
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: In fact, like if one word of photos shop out

847
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: the fish and replace it with like a red telecaster.

848
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: He looked like a guy in a dive bar, you know,

849
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: like like covering the stones, like living his Keith Richard's

850
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: pipe dream like. And it looks like Zach's trying to

851
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: whale out the solo from Sympathy for the Devil on

852
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: that fish and not hold it up for a hero shot.

853
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: And you know, an observation. Even even his fingers are

854
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: splayed as they would be on a fretboard, as if

855
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: you were trying to hit a really hard chord. It's

856
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: it's it's so perfect. But the look on his face

857
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: fits the image too, right, So picture your your favorite guitarists,

858
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: perhaps Vay Malmstein. I know there's a bunch of Invay

859
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: fans listening right now, like hitting the peak of their

860
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: most iconic riff on stage completely in the moment, borderline

861
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: like just sheer bliss, possibly edging towards orgasmic and and

862
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: that seems appropriate when when you consider the stream of

863
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: white liquid spewing from the King's vent onto Zack's like

864
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: really expensive, high dollar hunting vest, and it seems just

865
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: both of them were in the midst of an o face. Man. Uh,

866
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: it's so true. And the photo the photo would be

867
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: good enough on its own, but by actually, my favorite

868
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: part about this one, uh, was the messages that Zack

869
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: and I exchange listening because this is gonna make it.

870
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: This is what's gonna make it. So. So here's the

871
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: here's the message exchange between Zach and me. Zack. Here's

872
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: an embarrassing photo for the news segment. This fish smacked

873
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: me before we got a good picture. Me. Thanks, Zack.

874
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: Looks like that fish did more than smack you. I

875
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: hope you whed that vest, Zack. It took my hat

876
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: clean off and I left the Lake Ontario slim on

877
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: it for a few extra days to savor the experience. Me.

878
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: I was actually referring to the stream of milt at

879
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: spewing into your lap, Zack. The real embarrassment is that

880
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: I've never noticed that in two years so glad we

881
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: could educate you about your own awkward photo. Like the

882
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: best part of that was that he had no idea

883
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: that that was in the photo when he sent it in,

884
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: Like we we found that gem for him. So zach I,

885
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed those extra few days of savoring

886
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: the experience, as you say, and uh man, thanks so

887
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: much for sending in your awkward fishing photo and letting

888
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: us have some fun with it. We got a little

889
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: gift coming your way in the near future. We do,

890
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: and you deserve it because now everybody can see your

891
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: lap full of salmon's blooge. Uh. Don't forget we post

892
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: these on our Instagram accounts. That's Joe dot Sormelli won

893
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: three eight and water miles on the Graham. If you

894
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: have an awkward fishing photo you'd like us to heckle

895
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: on this podcast, send it to Bent at the meat

896
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: Eator dot com. We appreciate all the submissions we've gotten

897
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: so far. Keep them coming. So this week, seeing that

898
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: it is in fact Black Friday, the day we all

899
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: know is set aside to remember the thirteen people that

900
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: perish during the Tikomiamo trampling at the Bentonville, Arkansas Walmart

901
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: hashtag never forget. We've decided it's only appropriate to push

902
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: our end of the line segment off this week in

903
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: favor of the sale bin. Yes, yes, it's it's it's

904
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: the respectful thing to do. And you know what, you're

905
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: probably not fishing this weekend anyway. You're shopping at least

906
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: on your computer because you don't have the proper PPU

907
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: to visit target. You don't know what's going on in there.

908
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: You have been to a Target in the last six months.

909
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: I don't recommend it. But long before Target, there was

910
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: Kmart and this sale beIN harkens back to the days

911
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: of the blue Light special. Why did you put the

912
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: hand to pay? You don't know what I'm getting, man,

913
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: You didn't have to be so hurtful with me, so angry.

914
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: So this week we've got a real gem from the

915
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: Facebook group p A fly Fishing Classified And this was

916
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: sent to me by Chris Raz. Chris, you demand and

917
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Okay, up for grabs? Was note I

918
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: said was a hand Tide streamer assortment nine streamers total

919
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: in the original packaging with the original Kmart price tag

920
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: four dollars and cents. And I will date this item

921
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: from the mid nineties. Ish maybe I don't know, uh,

922
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: but here's the description Kmart Fish America Foundation members box

923
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: rare collector's item. Uh. And he originally started out with

924
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: these for two hundred dollars and then slash that price

925
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: down to fifty dollars. What a steal. If there were

926
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 1: comments on the post, we can say, just I feel

927
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: like this is one of those cases where the original

928
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: packaging is not helping you, particularly that kmart price the

929
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: xticker of four dollars and cents. Just I don't think

930
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: that keeping it the original intact is actually helping to

931
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: boost your argument for why this is valuable. Just just

932
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: my my take the rare where that just you just

933
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't have gone there. But there were comments on this post, right,

934
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: the first of which read, you are kidding, right, And

935
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: another guy says, another guy says, I'll give you one

936
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: dollar and fifteen cents, and then another dude jumps in

937
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: and goes, would you take four dred so stupid prices aside? Right,

938
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: this is not a bass bug tied by Lefty Kranek

939
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: Kmart flies. But I just got to kick out of

940
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: it because these these were like my first flies, man,

941
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: These little starter packs from Kmart. You know, you got

942
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: the Mickey Finn and the Garay Ghost and the halfass

943
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: Wooly Bugger and the head wraps would started raveling within

944
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of fishing them. But I got my first

945
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: fly outfit for Christmas when I was ten or so,

946
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: and these were the flies that came with it. And

947
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: we grew up in different places. So maybe like your

948
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: first flies were not the bubble pack honestly, man, Like

949
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: my first flies, I actually think were the the fifty

950
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: cent foam spiders that you used to catch bluegill with,

951
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: and not that we catching bluegill in Hawaii, but I

952
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: did use them to catch talapia in Hawaii because they

953
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: did anything. But um, yeah, that's what I started out with.

954
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure I had one of these at

955
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: one point. But I think my terrible casting because I

956
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: didn't everybody to teach me, just broke them all immediately.

957
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: I think they just came unraveled while I was trying

958
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: to learn to cast. Well. There there were multiple sets, right,

959
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: so you had the streamer set and then you had

960
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: like like you were talking about, you had the hand

961
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: fish popper set every kid had, even before you had

962
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: a fly rod, you wanted a little panfish pod. Yeah,

963
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but they also had a dry

964
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: fly assortment and there would always be one fly that

965
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: just looked like a moth. Do you remember that? Just

966
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: a big white mothy butterfly looking job or I don't

967
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: know what you were supposed to do with that? I do,

968
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: did anybody how big you talk? How big are we

969
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 1: talking first? Before I answer my question? Like big enough

970
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: that if it flew in through the screen door, and

971
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: now you'd be like, oh, ship, it's a big gass moth,

972
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: pure white, No, dude, just a big white wing like

973
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: round wing feather moth. And I don't know anybody who

974
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: used it. Did anyone ever catch anything with that? I

975
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: don't know, but I remember having those as a kid,

976
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: and there was always the moth in the set. But anyway,

977
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: the set is now sold, though I have no idea

978
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: how much uh it was was paid for the set.

979
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: I want to know what this went for, So there

980
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: is a lucky angler out there, either buying a shadow

981
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: box for it right now, that's that's one possibility, or

982
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: just swinging a poorly tied Mickey Finn over at the

983
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: rock bass Hole, but it was there for the taking

984
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: and we lost out on the rare Collectors kmart set

985
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: in the America Foundation Members box. I don't even know

986
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: what that means, but it sure sounds good. It's not

987
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: even a real fly box, and they're like the little

988
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: the only the only thing I can think of that

989
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: has a similar boxes like you put baseball cards in there,

990
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: like a small stack of baseball cards and the clear thing.

991
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: But Chris, Chris, thank you for that one. We love

992
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: that one. You guys have been sending a ton of

993
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: Saleman items, keep those coming to bent at the meat

994
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: eat or dot com and uh you just might hear

995
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: yours red here. So that's all the time we have

996
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: this week. If you're making lists of what to buy

997
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: Joe and me for Christmas, we like clothes free of salmon, seamen,

998
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: hand tied mufflies, and smart people willing to answer lots

999
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 1: of stupid questions in very short time periods. Very well said, Listen,

1000
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: next week we're gonna throw down. That's a little Easter

1001
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: egg for some of you with the smooth moves. That's

1002
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: a bloody good time. And get back to our drinking

1003
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: days with a fresh installment of That's My Bar. Until then,

1004
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: keep all those sale bean fines, awkward photos, bar nominations,

1005
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: and general love hate and love hate mail coming to

1006
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: Bent at the mediator dot com. We love hearing from you,

1007
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: and you know what, take a few leftover turkey sandwiches

1008
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: out on the water with you. They're filling, they stick

1009
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: to your ribs. I personally like mine with mayo and

1010
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: cranberry sauce together. I will skip the cranberry sauce. But listen,

1011
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: no matter what you do, don't put the mayo and

1012
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: the jelly on the sandwiches the night before dumbassides. They'll

1013
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: be soggy as ship the next day.