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Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. There's random things that kind of come
Speaker 2: into my head. And I said to Todd, I said,
Speaker 2: is the anniversary of Mike Tyson biting Evander Holyfield? Is
Speaker 2: that today? And Todd goes, I don't know, And then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he finds out that it is.
Speaker 2: And then now he's an expert on Mike Tyson. It
Speaker 2: was twenty six years ago today, this was the rematch.
Speaker 2: This was Tyson Holyfield two and that was in Las
Speaker 2: Vegas a night night. Yeah, and Mills Lane was let's.
Speaker 3: Get on Mike, commit them taking a point, do it again,
Speaker 3: You're out.
Speaker 2: That was a big deal at the time. That was
Speaker 2: a big deal. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: Bit his ear, I know, spit out a chunk, git
Speaker 4: it off, not a nibble.
Speaker 5: I know, God, he bit, he bit a chunk out
Speaker 5: of his ear. Yeah, I means laying in the ring.
Speaker 6: Holyfield won the first three rounds. With thirty two seconds
Speaker 6: left in the second round, Holyfield ducked under a right
Speaker 6: from Tyson and he his head went up and caught
Speaker 6: Tyson a little and like not a head butt, more
Speaker 6: like a just a collision. But Tyson was very upset
Speaker 6: because he got hit in the right eye, and that's
Speaker 6: when he started to lose it.
Speaker 5: I think he had been head but a few times
Speaker 5: in the in that match, I think, yes, and he
Speaker 5: and he was. He was clearly getting frustrated and starting
Speaker 5: to lose its cool.
Speaker 2: That is the highest grossing pay per view, at least
Speaker 2: it was at the time. There were just under two
Speaker 2: million buys of that fight, the first fight to break
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars in revenues. But Mike couldn't figure
Speaker 2: out Evander Holyfield. You know, holy Field wasn't a power puncher.
Speaker 2: He was really not a heavyweight, but he did move up.
Speaker 2: The purse was going to be bigger. But he was
Speaker 2: a better boxer than Mike, and Holyfield frustrated him so
Speaker 2: much so that he ended up biting his ear. Mike
Speaker 2: also has a cannabis company and he does have holy
Speaker 2: Field ears that are edibles and it has the bike
Speaker 2: mark out of the ear and you can buy this edible.
Speaker 2: You know, it's got CBD and I think it's called
Speaker 2: Mike's Bikes and it's it's just ears. You can get
Speaker 2: Vander Holyfield's ear a little.
Speaker 3: Extra chewy, I think a little wax on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of gross.
Speaker 6: Yes, I just watched back the video. And so after
Speaker 6: the second round, Tyson is in his corner. He's very
Speaker 6: upset and the bell rings for round three and Tyson
Speaker 6: comes out without his mouthpieces, trying to talk to mills Lane,
Speaker 6: but the round had started. Field's going in to punch
Speaker 6: him in the face, and they kind of slow things
Speaker 6: down and they make him put his mouth piece in,
Speaker 6: and Tyson's getting frustrated. He bites them, but you really
Speaker 6: can't see it because they were like nuzzled. Their heads
Speaker 6: were kind of nuzzled against each other. The camera doesn't
Speaker 6: pick it up and the ref doesn't pick it up.
Speaker 6: So the first time, mills Lane is confused and Holyfield's
Speaker 6: trying to say it, but he also says, let's get
Speaker 6: it back going, and then the second one is out
Speaker 6: of hand.
Speaker 7: Yes, and seeing Holyfield leaping up in the air holding
Speaker 7: his tears like.
Speaker 8: That, imn so wild.
Speaker 2: Holyfield and Tyson were going to fight in nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: but then Tyson lost to Buster Douglas. Holyfield was next
Speaker 2: after Tyson was supposed to beat Buster Douglas and then
Speaker 2: they were going to fight the following year. Tyson was
Speaker 2: convicted of rape in nineteen ninety two, so then they
Speaker 2: had to hold off. Tyson was released from prison in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five and then they finally met in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety six. Holy Field I don't remember this. He became
Speaker 2: the first fight since Ali to win the heavyweight title
Speaker 2: three times. Holyfield Tyson two was booked as sound and fury.
Speaker 2: Tyson suffered a cut over his left eye and training camp.
Speaker 2: Then they had to postpone that and then they had
Speaker 2: the Event of the Year is what it was called
Speaker 2: by Ring Magazine in nineteen ninety seven. Tyson was a
Speaker 2: big favorite in this despite a loss in the first fight.
Speaker 2: So he was thirty four and one and gosh in
Speaker 2: his fights that lasted three rounds or fewer. He had
Speaker 2: fifty six career fights. But thirty four and one.
Speaker 6: After the fight, I guess Holyfield with a bit near
Speaker 6: the Nevada State Athletic Commission of banned him fine with
Speaker 6: three million dollars, and shockingly, less than two years later
Speaker 6: they reinstated him.
Speaker 2: But he was also so I think he was. That's
Speaker 2: ten percent of the amount of money that he made
Speaker 2: that night. He made thirty million dollars, I think that
Speaker 2: night for three rounds. Man just a fascinating, fascinating individual,
Speaker 2: you know, grew up on the streets. Costamano took him
Speaker 2: in under his wing. And when you have him on,
Speaker 2: you're not sure what you're getting. You're not sure which
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson you're getting. But when he's playful, he is funny,
Speaker 2: he's engaging, and you know, there's a childlike quality to Mike.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Thank you, Tom. Wasn't it yesterday the
Speaker 2: anniversary when Mike thought Michael Spinx that the ninety one
Speaker 2: seconds ninety one.
Speaker 4: Seconds, we spent more time talking about him.
Speaker 2: Yes, they're just certain things. I'm so fortunate that I
Speaker 2: was able to witness and all the great athletes and
Speaker 2: all the great events. And there's something about a title fight.
Speaker 2: It brings out some real characters. And once that bell
Speaker 2: sounds like, there's no place to hide. That's what I
Speaker 2: love about boxing. No timeouts, it's you, it's me, and
Speaker 2: one of us is going to get out of this
Speaker 2: ring alive. And that was always the case with Mike,
Speaker 2: that you'd hear that thing and I'd go, oh, you
Speaker 2: just hold your breath. And when I saw him fight
Speaker 2: Joe Fraser's son, Marvus Fraser and Mike Michael Spinks, and
Speaker 2: I thought, oh my god, they're going to get killed.
Speaker 2: I truly thought that Mike could kill somebody in the
Speaker 2: ring because he loved to do that upper cut and
Speaker 2: he wanted to push your nose into your brain. I mean,
Speaker 2: he was violent. He didn't he was telling you he
Speaker 2: was going to be violent. This wasn't a sweet science,
Speaker 2: there was no science whatsoever. It was violence, and he
Speaker 2: made no excuses for that.
Speaker 9: I could picture my fist going through the opponent of
Speaker 9: the back of his neck, like back of his guy.
Speaker 9: I told Oprah that one I punched him right through it,
Speaker 9: the back of his skull.
Speaker 2: I think, I think you're getting that down pretty well,
Speaker 2: working on it, but I'm let's get Tyson on and
Speaker 2: then I want you to do Tyson Tyson.
Speaker 3: I don't find that particularly funny.
Speaker 2: Where do you live in studio? Would you do it
Speaker 2: in studio? If I had Mike Tyson sitting over by me,
Speaker 2: and I would say, hey, Mike uh Todd does an
Speaker 2: impersonation of you.
Speaker 3: My only concern is I've seen some interviews that that
Speaker 3: did not go well, where he looked like he was
Speaker 3: gonna beat the crap out of the host that brought up,
Speaker 3: you know things, We wouldn't be bringing those things up.
Speaker 2: The contents came.
Speaker 9: Yeah, oh, I mean to watch him actually attack me. Yeah,
Speaker 9: because he didn't take it. Well, it's only one punch,
Speaker 9: It's all it takes.
Speaker 3: Though they can never get up ever again.
Speaker 2: Possibly, Yeah, but you guys are the same size.
Speaker 3: One punch can cause major brain damage to a person.
Speaker 3: It could Mike Tyson even at his age.
Speaker 2: Tyson's older than you.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'd rather him just go play with his pigeons and
Speaker 7: his uh cannabish.
Speaker 3: But I would.
Speaker 7: I would do that if he ever came in suity,
Speaker 7: I would do the You would do the dice.
Speaker 2: On that, okay? All right? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, even just like Mike Tyson's like the black trunks
Speaker 5: and those black shoes. Everything about him was just like
Speaker 5: and no robe, yeah no, right, yeah right, there was
Speaker 5: like no flash to him whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like he had he left the car running
Speaker 2: and he went into the ring. Uh, I'll be out
Speaker 2: in the second. Let me go knock this punk out
Speaker 2: and I'll be out. Hey, what took so long? I
Speaker 2: bit his ear? You know, it got crazy in there.
Speaker 7: I don't know that opening stand there with his eyes
Speaker 7: going back and forth staring at his opponent was like
Speaker 7: so creepy, scary.
Speaker 2: It's like a bowl when the bulls ready to attack.
Speaker 2: And just like that, that was that feeling you got
Speaker 2: when Tyson came in. Fascinating, fascinating. I don't like to
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 3: That anymore, But I don't know what People at me back.
Speaker 2: Bank you Ton, move on for banking Ton big night
Speaker 2: last night in Baseball Show, Hey O'tani did it at
Speaker 2: the plate and on the mound. He also had the
Speaker 2: Dodgers Clayton Kershaw. He's probably on his way to maybe
Speaker 2: another Cy Young, which would be a great story for him. Otani.
Speaker 2: Those are impressive numbers. So he's got twenty eight home
Speaker 2: runs so far the seventy six ers. I guess they're
Speaker 2: going to figure out or find out here in the
Speaker 2: next day or at the end of the day. If
Speaker 2: James Harden is going to come back. If I'm the
Speaker 2: seventy six ers, why do they keep churning through players?
Speaker 2: They've had a lot of players. Are we still in
Speaker 2: the process here because they did have Jimmy Butler, Tobias
Speaker 2: Harris is going to be on his way out? Is
Speaker 2: James Harden on his way out? Ben Simmons was on
Speaker 2: his way out? Is Joe well MB one day going
Speaker 2: to go? Why am I staying here? I'm not the problem?
Speaker 2: Why Why is it that you know, you keep changing
Speaker 2: my teammates on me? Nobody works here?
Speaker 5: Just me? Yeah, nobody else? Because yeah, then you have
Speaker 5: to be like, maybe it is me. The coaches aren't working. Yeah,
Speaker 5: all of the other players aren't working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're Philadelphia, do you want him? Like I
Speaker 2: would prefer he opted out? Well, although I think Houston
Speaker 2: is kind of quietly creating a pretty good roster that
Speaker 2: they may go after, you know, Fred van Vliet. They
Speaker 2: might add a couple of guys in free agency, and
Speaker 2: the Rockets could be an interesting team, could be an
Speaker 2: interesting team. But James Harden, I think just wants to
Speaker 2: be able to have some fun. Yeah, I played some
Speaker 2: pressure in pressure situations didn't go well. I'd like to
Speaker 2: get back to being able to shoot whenever I want to.
Speaker 2: Because I thought, if you gave me Harden at twenty
Speaker 2: one to ten, man, I'll take that. If he buys
Speaker 2: into that. And then we had these wild fluctuating score
Speaker 2: performances in the playoffs where he's like, you got forty five,
Speaker 2: and then he got thirteen, and then he got thirty
Speaker 2: nine and then he got twelve. I'm thinking, I just
Speaker 2: want you to be a playmaker, man, And maybe maybe
Speaker 2: he does want to go back to Houston. Then if
Speaker 2: he does for comfort Home, whatever, he loved it there, great,
Speaker 2: But that's the guy that you want to see. I
Speaker 2: want to see him succeed, but I just don't think
Speaker 2: it's going to happen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul Houston's got young guys Fromer the Kid, Jalen
Speaker 6: Green the Guard. It must be a great score? Was
Speaker 6: there like twenty two a game? Does that seem adding
Speaker 6: a guy who completely takes the ball out of your
Speaker 6: hands half the game positive for development?
Speaker 2: If I'm a young guy, I don't want James Harden
Speaker 2: coming to town. Be like no, no, no, we're the
Speaker 2: ones building this. You had your opportunity. It didn't go well,
Speaker 2: but this is, you know, big week for free agency,
Speaker 2: opting in opting out week. What's poll question for the
Speaker 2: final hour?
Speaker 3: See no Connor gave us I'd rather play off of
Speaker 3: lebron and Brownie. Of course, I'd rather play with my
Speaker 3: kid against my kid seventy seven percent with my boy
Speaker 3: or girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if this is going to happen.
Speaker 2: It's a mock draft. Had the Hawks taking Bronnie at seventeen.
Speaker 2: We got a long way to go, long way to
Speaker 2: go to get there. But I think lebron Co signed
Speaker 2: on this, like all right, yeah James gang and I'm
Speaker 2: a m I don't think so, don't see it happening.
Speaker 2: Feels pretty comfy in La.
Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing against Atlanta, but it feels like he's got
Speaker 5: a pretty good setup going right now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm Bronnie, James. I may stay at USC a
Speaker 6: second year. I think I'm going to the Hawks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how long do I have to stay at USC
Speaker 2: before my dad retires?
Speaker 6: We're national TV games at USC more money. Probably, yeah,
Speaker 6: I bet you can make more money. They say eighteenth
Speaker 6: pick of the draft, seventeen seventeenth pick of the draft.
Speaker 4: I mean it's salary.
Speaker 6: I know he's going to get lots and lots and
Speaker 6: lots of endorse but he do just as well at US.
Speaker 4: See.
Speaker 2: Probably, well, he's going to make that money no matter
Speaker 2: what sure endorsement. He'll make it when he goes through
Speaker 2: the NBA. But the fact that he's going to make
Speaker 2: whatever seven million dollars in name, image and likeness in college,
Speaker 2: he'll still make He'll make that and his salary when
Speaker 2: he goes to the NBA. You know, I have some
Speaker 2: point spreads here that just came out. This is from DraftKings.
Speaker 2: We've talked about the Thursday night opener with the Lions
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs, and that's still six and a half.
Speaker 2: Lions getting six and a half. The Jets that Monday
Speaker 2: night game against the Bills, Bills favored at the Jets
Speaker 2: by one and a half, one and a half one
Speaker 2: in a hook. The Dolphins against the Chargers, Dolphins getting
Speaker 2: two and a half. Bengals against the Browns, Bengals giving
Speaker 2: two and a half. The largest spread opening weekend according
Speaker 2: to DraftKings, the Ravens against the Texans nine nine random.
Speaker 2: But oh, you can also bet on this the longest
Speaker 2: reception over under in the NFL this upcoming season. And
Speaker 2: you want to take a guess. This is the over
Speaker 2: under longest reception of the season, according to DraftKings. And
Speaker 2: it's it's not person it's yardage. Todd. Longest reception over
Speaker 2: under is eighty one and a half seat O'Connor eighty seven,
Speaker 2: Paul eighty nine and a half, ninety two and a half.
Speaker 5: We were trending upwards.
Speaker 2: Longest run this year, Longest rush rush over under.
Speaker 4: Todd sixty eight and a half.
Speaker 10: Seat O'Connor ninety seven and one half quarterback this year
Speaker 10: according to four.
Speaker 2: Hundred and fifty seven. I didn't call on you, yeah yet,
Speaker 2: were just qualified Todd.
Speaker 3: Five O three.
Speaker 2: Paul.
Speaker 5: It was a long pause, a long pluzzant finger was
Speaker 5: very dramatic.
Speaker 4: You're excusing me of something I don't know. I don't know, uh,
Speaker 4: five hundred and forty.
Speaker 2: Five, five oh two and a half, I said, five
Speaker 2: O three.
Speaker 3: I know that's pretty wild that I would be that.
Speaker 2: That's why I paused, and then Paul I should have known.
Speaker 2: I was trying to give you a hand up there.
Speaker 3: That was an amazing guest by me. I'm not getting
Speaker 3: enough credit for that one. Just now, I just randomly
Speaker 3: said five O three five two? What happened? It was
Speaker 3: five oh three or whatever?
Speaker 2: Is this a skill?
Speaker 3: I think that's like guessing. What I just did was
Speaker 3: like a big jar jelly beans.
Speaker 7: I said, I don't know, there's twelve hundred and eighteen
Speaker 7: in There're like, no, there's twelve hundred and nineteen in there.
Speaker 2: And you know who's a big jar jelly beans?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 2: That's true? Yeah, big jar jelly like the purple ones.
Speaker 4: I like the grape joke at the bank where they
Speaker 4: say all the jelly bean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially what I just did? You guess all the
Speaker 2: cheli beans. That was incredible, Todd, you know what pause
Speaker 2: for jeez?
Speaker 4: I gotta beg for it. What a skill?
Speaker 7: Yeah, wildly amazing guests.
Speaker 2: Incredible skill. You have, incredible skill.
Speaker 3: You're the one who were talking about one hundred yard field.
Speaker 3: So it's either gonna be eighty eight or eighty three
Speaker 3: or ninety four. This one was like it could be
Speaker 3: on either it could be four hundred and twelve yards
Speaker 3: could be six hundred and fifty yards and I said,
Speaker 3: forget it.
Speaker 2: Are you done?
Speaker 5: The point was made.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a jelly bean, No are you done? How
Speaker 3: many coins in the draw?
Speaker 2: No, you are done? You know on this show, when
Speaker 2: you ask for more credit, it always works out really
Speaker 2: really well. Yeah, that's yeah. Yeah, let's take a victory
Speaker 2: lap time. Congratulations, thanks a lot.
Speaker 3: It was pretty awesome though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about we take a break here when we
Speaker 2: come back. John Wertheim, he is a sixty Minutes correspond
Speaker 2: He just went over to talk to the Minister of
Speaker 2: Sports in Saudi Arabia and interesting back and forth at
Speaker 2: one point in the interview, and I want to ask
Speaker 2: him what is the bigger picture here? What's the endgame
Speaker 2: for the Saudi this public investment fund? Are they coming
Speaker 2: to the NFL or the NBA or baseball? We'll talk
Speaker 2: to John Wertheim from sixty Minutes and we'll do so
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Speaker 2: He is a sixty Minutes correspondent, did a story on
Speaker 2: sports washing. He went to Saudi Arabia, sat down with
Speaker 2: the Minister of Sports over there, kind of figuring out
Speaker 2: what is the bigger picture, what are the sports would
Speaker 2: they like to invest in? And John joins us. Now, John,
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. What concerns you or should concern
Speaker 2: you or us about the so called partnership that the
Speaker 2: Saudi Investment Fund has with the PGA Tour moving forward?
Speaker 1: You know, this still has to pass regulators, a lot
Speaker 1: of details. Even this five to six page framework that
Speaker 1: we saw still sort of leaves more questions unanswered than answered.
Speaker 1: And I think the bigger picture is just what is
Speaker 1: our comfort level with this investment fund and this kind
Speaker 1: of money coming into sports. Some of this is the
Speaker 1: you know, the morals that that Jay Monahan among others
Speaker 1: have alluded to, but also some of this is just
Speaker 1: what does it do to sports when one of the
Speaker 1: players has a completely different set of economics than everybody else.
Speaker 2: Well, you've talked about this that your return on investment
Speaker 2: most people get into sports by a team and there's
Speaker 2: a return on investment. The Saudis aren't concerned about that.
Speaker 1: Well, they want to return on investment. It's just a
Speaker 1: much different much of a Dan Sneyer or whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: Josh Harris buys a team from Dan Sneyder and he's oh,
Speaker 1: here are broadcast contracts, and here are the sweets, and
Speaker 1: here's some real estate play I can make. This is
Speaker 1: a completely different set of math with the Saudis. This
Speaker 1: is about rebranding a country, and there's this Vision twenty
Speaker 1: thirty plan with the sort of national plan to completely
Speaker 1: transform the country and sports figures very prominently. That's a
Speaker 1: lot different of a ballot sheet than are we selling
Speaker 1: enough suites? And are we going to get our media
Speaker 1: rights renewed?
Speaker 2: But are they really trying to change or they are
Speaker 2: they trying to give the appearance that they're trying to change.
Speaker 1: That's a great question. And when I went to Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 1: I mean, to their credit, I sat down across from
Speaker 1: the sports minister and they made him available. And on
Speaker 1: the one hand they were saying, you know, we don't
Speaker 1: even think sports washing is a thing. Look, we're lucky
Speaker 1: enough to have a lot of money, and we're going
Speaker 1: to invest in sports. It's a great way to motivate
Speaker 1: the kids. We have a young population. We'll put down
Speaker 1: your your phone and your chloopa and start running laps,
Speaker 1: and it's a great way to be. And then on
Speaker 1: the other hand, they said, look at all these cranes.
Speaker 1: We're really trying to update our economy. We're trying to diversify.
Speaker 1: Look at all this growth and development and tourism. So
Speaker 1: on the one hand, this sort of you know, it's
Speaker 1: not about throwing this money around, it's not about laundering
Speaker 1: a reputation. It's just about helping the kids. And then
Speaker 1: they would pivot and say sports is one of the
Speaker 1: pillars of this national transformation.
Speaker 2: How nervous were you?
Speaker 1: I think not, because one thing that became really clear
Speaker 1: was that this Jamal Koshogi, you know, this murder dismemberment,
Speaker 1: five years later, is still the first thing that people
Speaker 1: cling onto when everyone's trying to build a sports washing case.
Speaker 1: This is the first thing that they have to answer for.
Speaker 1: And I think that, uh, you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: crass and vulgar to think of it in these terms.
Speaker 1: But this was a horrible mistake that probably cost them
Speaker 1: a trillion dollars. I mean this, this is the very
Speaker 1: the very first thing when sports washing comes up is
Speaker 1: the dismemberment of a journalist. And so I think they
Speaker 1: know that they have a lot to answer for, and
Speaker 1: this is uh, you know, they've there's a set of
Speaker 1: talking points, and they still deny the content of the
Speaker 1: CIA report that uh, that this went all the way
Speaker 1: up to NBA, to the Muhammad bins On on the
Speaker 1: Crown Prince and that he had either ordered it or
Speaker 1: okayed it. They still take issue with that, but I
Speaker 1: think they know that this is something that's sort of
Speaker 1: this murder. I think it's accelerated all of this investment
Speaker 1: in sports washing because they've really had to double down
Speaker 1: on saying to the rest of the world, hey wait,
Speaker 1: we're just like you. We love Bruno Mars and we
Speaker 1: love uh, you know, the NBA golf and soccer as well.
Speaker 2: What else did Will the Sudies buy NFL, NBA baseball
Speaker 2: or they interested in that?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I mean part of it is just we all
Speaker 1: love sports. These franchises don't go down in value. It's
Speaker 1: a great way to build bridges and tear down walls.
Speaker 1: I mean, I also think just practically these teams get
Speaker 1: bought by individuals and when it's you know, when it's
Speaker 1: March Shot and you know Red Macombs and a local
Speaker 1: car deal, we're not in that ara anymore. I mean,
Speaker 1: these are you know, these are four or five six
Speaker 1: billion dollar properties. There are not a lot of individuals
Speaker 1: that have that spare change lying around me. I just
Speaker 1: think as franchise values go up, it stands to reason
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go outside the US to find
Speaker 1: these these billionaires. But you know, these investment funds we
Speaker 1: saw this week that you know, ted leonsis and it's
Speaker 1: not Saudi, it's Katari, but they're taking a minority stake
Speaker 1: and you know, the wizards and the mystics and the
Speaker 1: capitals we're seeing in you know, inevitably. Now, there was
Speaker 1: an announcement a few days ago that that Saudi is
Speaker 1: looking into partnering with tennis. I mean, I think this
Speaker 1: beach had this sort of normalization with the PGA. I
Speaker 1: think is going to lead to a much bigger Saudi
Speaker 1: presence of sports. You know, mean, I think we got
Speaker 1: to spend thirty seconds. I don't know, maybe it's not
Speaker 1: a bad thing. Maybe this really is a way to
Speaker 1: break down boundaries. You know, the athletes love it. Values.
Speaker 1: You know, money is getting look at the PGA tour.
Speaker 1: I mean, money is being inserted into the ecosystem. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think we're all rightfully cynical, but I also think
Speaker 1: that we ought to reserve like a little column for hey,
Speaker 1: maybe this isn't a bad thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we can be hypocritical and a variety
Speaker 2: of fronts. Here we're talking to John worthim the sixty
Speaker 2: Minutes correspondent. I'm also wondering about this that you had
Speaker 2: this back and forth with the Saudi I don't know
Speaker 2: what his official title is, the Minister of sports. Where
Speaker 2: you were talking about, you know, the beheadings that they had,
Speaker 2: like eighty people who were beheaded, if that's the number.
Speaker 2: And then he brought up, well, you had this mass
Speaker 2: shooting in Texas and then you say, yeah, but that
Speaker 2: wasn't government ordered there. And I thought it was an
Speaker 2: interesting exchange between you two. What was the room like
Speaker 2: when that exchange happened, John.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was some tense moments there. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that the playbook and we saw this, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I sort of got a little preview. Sometimes you go back,
Speaker 1: you do your research and you sort of anticipate what
Speaker 1: responses are. And in this case, I think the golfers
Speaker 1: gave me a lot of a lot of sense of
Speaker 1: what to anticipate because everyone's got the same talking points,
Speaker 1: which is, no one is perfect. We all wish we
Speaker 1: lived in a peaceful world. You know, wake me up,
Speaker 1: he without the first you know, if you live in
Speaker 1: a perfect country, raise your hand. I would say there
Speaker 1: ought to be some some basic standards. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the mass shootings are terrible. We wish we didn't
Speaker 1: have them, but I would submit there's a difference between
Speaker 1: that and especially when I mean the other part of
Speaker 1: that is especially when a the state actor is the
Speaker 1: one making the investment, and b when this is part
Speaker 1: of at you know, people have also why don't understand
Speaker 1: you have an iPhone? Or how come we don't care
Speaker 1: that the Saudi has a big take in Facebook and
Speaker 1: so many many American companies. They haven't invested in Facebook
Speaker 1: as a strategy for rebranding the country. And I think
Speaker 1: that's the distinction.
Speaker 2: I would make one of the first stories you did,
Speaker 2: I think for sixty minutes was profiling show Heyo Tani
Speaker 2: what you knew then or found out then and where
Speaker 2: he is now. I think we're trying to understand what
Speaker 2: motivates him, and you know, the surroundings that he's in
Speaker 2: in free agency, and does he want to be in
Speaker 2: New York? You know, he's on the periphery of LA
Speaker 2: by being in Anaheim. Did you like glean anything from
Speaker 2: him of his personality and what makes him comfortable?
Speaker 1: He struck me as a really weird mix that'd be weird.
Speaker 1: I mean it was a really sort of fascinating mix
Speaker 1: of supreme confidence, right. I mean, he wasn't going to
Speaker 1: let some agent, he wasn't let some manager. I mean,
Speaker 1: he wanted to play both ways, and he was absolutely
Speaker 1: firm that he could do it and he would do it.
Speaker 1: I mean it was a deal breaker. And at the
Speaker 1: same time, there was such a humility he had no interest.
Speaker 8: In you know.
Speaker 1: I people say, well, you know, he's only gonna end
Speaker 1: up on one of three markets because you have a
Speaker 1: star like that and all the money he could make.
Speaker 1: And I had people close to him saying they don't
Speaker 1: understand him. He loves baseball, he loves his family, he's
Speaker 1: a simple guy. He doesn't want the publicity. He's not
Speaker 1: interested in going to the hottest club in South Beach
Speaker 1: or living in Lower Manhattan. And I think in a
Speaker 1: weird way, it was appropriate. And he went to a
Speaker 1: West clost you know, obviously it's closer to home marginally.
Speaker 1: So it's all about the baseball And it sounds like
Speaker 1: such a cliche, but you know, you'd ask him what
Speaker 1: he'd do for fun, and he would have a hard
Speaker 1: time remembering his his favorite place to eat in Supporto.
Speaker 1: But then you mentioned Clayton Kershaw and his eyes would
Speaker 1: lie up. He was a fascinating guy. But I think
Speaker 1: again it's it's sort of our our theme for the conversation.
Speaker 1: He has a different set of motivations than what we
Speaker 1: are used to. This is not about doing production deals
Speaker 1: on a podcast and maxing out his endorsement portfolio. Different economics.
Speaker 2: I wonder if that bodes well for the Angels because
Speaker 2: they let him pitch and hit, and there's there's a
Speaker 2: comfort level there and it feels like he gets into
Speaker 2: a routine. He's simple, he likes the routine, he likes
Speaker 2: the people, he likes the environment.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent and I think that, you know, if
Speaker 1: somebody's whispering his ear, Hey, come to this this snazzy,
Speaker 1: big big I can get you a meeting with so
Speaker 1: and so and you'll sit courtside at Knick's games. I
Speaker 1: think he loves that he's not even the biggest team
Speaker 1: in the market he's in and he's an Orange County
Speaker 1: I mean he I mean even now, that story I
Speaker 1: think was twenty seventeen. I mean, how many long sit
Speaker 1: down interviews have you seen. He keeps himself, He goes
Speaker 1: to the ballpark. He loves baseball. They're not hassling him
Speaker 1: about it. You'll pitch counts and we want to cut
Speaker 1: down on your starts. I think it's a you wish
Speaker 1: the team were winning more games. I think baseball wishes
Speaker 1: the team were more relevant. I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: a perfect situation for him.
Speaker 2: What's your next sports story coming up?
Speaker 1: Oh man for sixty I've the wimbled, had the wimbled.
Speaker 1: In a few hours, we'll see if the new all
Speaker 1: time leader in major singles titles wants to do a
Speaker 1: sixty minutes piece. Novak Djokovic.
Speaker 2: He's fascinating, absolutely, but does he like talking about being fascinating.
Speaker 1: He loves talking about being fascinating, the fascinating thing. It's
Speaker 1: so funny too, because you watch you watch the NBA
Speaker 1: Finals and there there's another Serbian who doesn't have much
Speaker 1: to say. This guy's really complicated, and he does some
Speaker 1: things that are fantastic, and he does some things that
Speaker 1: are just colossally. I mean, you wonder who's advising him.
Speaker 1: And he's kind of happy to talk about all of it.
Speaker 1: He's he's yeah, I mean, he's thirty six years old.
Speaker 1: Now we've all sort of watched this story unfold.
Speaker 2: John, he's the Aaron Rodgers of tennis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the Aaron Rodgers of tennis, with you know,
Speaker 1: with with the Barry Bonds, you know, with with with
Speaker 1: the with with the home run record. I mean, for
Speaker 1: fifteen years, everybody who sort of want to see who'd
Speaker 1: retire with the most majors. And he's moved ahead, he's
Speaker 1: probably not given up the lead and he's not done
Speaker 1: and yeah, and then he's got this area. You're right though,
Speaker 1: he's got this this Aaron Rodgers side to him, and
Speaker 1: he's still unvaccinated and he still plays his first round
Speaker 1: at the French Open and he signs the camera with
Speaker 1: a message of Kosovo. Usually athletes run screaming from yeah,
Speaker 1: this is like an American athletes signing the something about
Speaker 1: the Dobbs decision one way or the other. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy not avoid controversy, and he's he's really a fascinating,
Speaker 1: maddening character.
Speaker 2: Safe travels, John, Thanks for joining us anytime. Thanks jam
Speaker 2: John werthon sixty Minutes correspondent he had some things to
Speaker 2: say about Otani because he profiled him on sixty Minutes.
Speaker 2: I believe back in twenty seventeen, so we've had some
Speaker 2: time here. He's had time to adjust to baseball in
Speaker 2: the United States sort of social media where he fits
Speaker 2: kind of in the pantheon here of athletes celebrities. Doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like he wants to embrace it or he hasn't
Speaker 2: embraced it, and he could easily embrace it. But also
Speaker 2: he might be comfortable, Like I always thought, each hero
Speaker 2: is comfortable in Seattle, Tony Gwynn was comfortable in San Diego,
Speaker 2: cal Ripken in Baltimore. They're just certain players certain cities.
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan in San Antonio, and you know, show hey,
Speaker 2: Tawny may be that that kind of athlete that, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable here, He's going to want to be compensated,
Speaker 2: well compensated. I don't know if he's going to get
Speaker 2: a ten year deal for six hundred million dollars. It
Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me. But you know, we may be thinking, well,
Speaker 2: it's the Angels and the Dodgers or the Yankees. Throw
Speaker 2: them in there, maybe one other team, maybe San Francisco
Speaker 2: as an outlier there because they were in it with
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge Boston. But I don't know if he's comfortable
Speaker 2: in these places, and I think that will play a
Speaker 2: large role. Certainly sounds like that. But I did tell
Speaker 2: you about that exchange that John Wertheim had with the
Speaker 2: Minister of Sports in Saudi Arabia. And so you're there
Speaker 2: and you're having this conversation where John brings up that
Speaker 2: whatever eighty people would be headed in one day, and
Speaker 2: then the Minister of sports said, well, you have the
Speaker 2: mass shooting in Texas, and then John says, yes, but
Speaker 2: that wasn't government ordered, And I could just imagine, well, no,
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. I can't imagine what that would be like.
Speaker 2: Where you're going, Do I want to go back? To
Speaker 2: my room anytime soon here, pretty balsy. Yeah, could somebody
Speaker 2: you know what? How about it? You just take me
Speaker 2: to the airport. I think we're done here. I think
Speaker 2: we're good. All right, let's close up shop here, last
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Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls. What we learn, what's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow. Hopefully we'll have Marvin back. Haven't heard from him.
Speaker 2: He was going in for jury duty. He was wondering
Speaker 2: if he wore a T shirt, one of our T shirts,
Speaker 2: if maybe he wouldn't be picked, And we were wondering,
Speaker 2: could he do the one about his plums? What's the
Speaker 2: official saying on that T shirt? Todd, I could feel
Speaker 2: it in my plum, feel it in my plums. That's
Speaker 2: a Will Ferrell line, I think, Yeah, what about the
Speaker 2: huh with a question mark? If you went in with
Speaker 2: a T shirt like then? Yeah? What other? What other
Speaker 2: T shirts could he have worn that we've come up with?
Speaker 4: Here, I'm doing my best.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe, yeah, I'm trying my best.
Speaker 6: Yeah, trying my best. Philosophically, they'd be concerned about that guy.
Speaker 2: There's issues with that is the best this guy could
Speaker 2: do right here? Yeah? Because Marvin, I think he was doing,
Speaker 2: you know, his public service, but I think he wanted
Speaker 2: to be here with us on the show. We were
Speaker 2: wondering is there something he could have worn that maybe
Speaker 2: would have helped him out of We used to.
Speaker 5: Have a shirt with Paul kicking Landon Donovan in the nuts.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you could do that, right, Yeah, yeah, capital
Speaker 2: punishment there.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that help or hurt you?
Speaker 2: World Cup check. I believe that's right.
Speaker 4: I think I was receiving the kick in the grind.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, getting kicked, That's what it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a special day.
Speaker 2: I had a backward Yeah, Landon Donovan kick.
Speaker 4: Fantastic moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Let's see final results of the poll. Question, Todd,
Speaker 2: do you.
Speaker 3: Want to play with or against your kid? If given
Speaker 3: the opportunity and hanging strong? It's seventy eight percent rather
Speaker 3: play with.
Speaker 2: Uh tie in Missouri High Ty? What's on your mind today?
Speaker 13: Hey Dan, Dan? That's I just wanted to say one
Speaker 13: of the shirts that Marvin could wear, it could be
Speaker 13: the sucket back row perhaps, And if he's.
Speaker 2: In the front row of the jury pool and it
Speaker 2: says suck it back row, You're right, that would be
Speaker 2: pretty good. What else do you think? That's? Ty?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 13: I was also going to say Paul had mentioned about
Speaker 13: the infamous bite from holy Field and Mike Tyson's fight. Yeah,
Speaker 13: I thought it was provoked because Holyfield had headbutted Mike
Speaker 13: enough times where Mike had gotten pissed off and then
Speaker 13: took a nice chunk out of Holyfield's ear.
Speaker 2: That right or not? Yeah, I think that's how Mike
Speaker 2: perceived it, that he was being headbutted and he was
Speaker 2: going to take matters into his own mouth. See what
Speaker 2: I did for that, not his hands. Thank you, Thank
Speaker 2: you to Dustin in Alabama. Good morning, Dustin. What's on
Speaker 2: your on your mind?
Speaker 3: What up?
Speaker 11: No one time for Jeff and Detroit. I got a
Speaker 11: Southern style pecan pie to the faith bet and then
Speaker 11: a quick comment after yesterday's uh call in so part
Speaker 11: of the face bet that I believe the Saints in
Speaker 11: the Detroit lines will face off in the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 11: So if any of you or Jeff in Detroit would
Speaker 11: like to take that.
Speaker 2: Pit, Dustin, Paula is going to take that bet, which a.
Speaker 11: Right, all right?
Speaker 10: And then uh my comment And now we're talking about
Speaker 10: this year, Dustin.
Speaker 2: We're talking about this year Saints Lions NFC title game.
Speaker 11: Saints Lions NFC title game. Okay, all right, yeah, and
Speaker 11: then uh for calling me out on my trivia yesterday.
Speaker 11: Verry in Santa Fe can suck it where he was
Speaker 11: when he was?
Speaker 2: All right, Dustin? All right? I think he had the
Speaker 2: was that the Ken Lizzie trivia question?
Speaker 5: That's an A plus call right now? That was great,
Speaker 5: well done, Dustin, Yep, well like that.
Speaker 2: That's contents contents King Kevin in Kevin in Cincinnati, Hi, keV,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 8: How you doing? DP? And the Doblin Bound? Yes?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 8: Hey, listen, I got the name for Victor Wamba yaba Okay.
Speaker 8: Their name is the French wamba.
Speaker 2: Okay, so like the Black Mamba. Yeah, French.
Speaker 5: But I think we've had that suggested already. I think
Speaker 5: that's a good one though, the French wamba.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I still like the French chise. Yeah. The franchise
Speaker 2: franchisees car Goat is pretty good. That's funny. And then
Speaker 2: the French prince instead of the Fresh Prince. I like
Speaker 2: the franchise. I'm good with that. I think that makes sense, right.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: This dang sports history.
Speaker 6: Paul Mike Tyson in ninety seven bit holyly Field Deer
Speaker 6: three round fight nineteen seventy one, The US Supreme Court
Speaker 6: overturned the draft of aasion conviction of Muhammad Ali. Nineteen
Speaker 6: ninety five, the NBA Draft was held in Blank, the
Speaker 6: first time the draft was held outside of the United States.
Speaker 6: The NBA Draft was held where first time was held outside.
Speaker 4: The United States.
Speaker 6: Ninety five Expansion Team Canada, Canada, Skydom Toronto.
Speaker 2: Okay, that is sports history. Okay, this date two thousand
Speaker 2: and seven, the Celtics couldn't get the number one or
Speaker 2: number two pick in the draft, Greg Odin or Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: They traded Delonte West, Wally Zerbiak, and the number five
Speaker 2: pick overall, which turned out to be Jeff Green, to
Speaker 2: the Sonics for Ray Allen. A month later, Boston would
Speaker 2: acquire Kevin Garnett from the Timberwolves, sparking one of the
Speaker 2: biggest one season turnarounds in NBA history. Man, both of
Speaker 2: those deals, Yeah, I forgot that they did that. They
Speaker 2: were trying to trade up to one or two to
Speaker 2: get Odin or Kevin Durant. Oh Man, The when's its
Speaker 2: first exhibition game? This might be a trivial pursuit question
Speaker 2: down the road. Nineteen ninety two, the Dream Team first
Speaker 2: exhibition game, can you guess the country final score one
Speaker 2: thirty three to fifty seven. I had this team and
Speaker 2: eighty points.
Speaker 4: Can you give us a hemisphere?
Speaker 2: No, because I may not know what that hemisphere is?
Speaker 2: Ooh Australia, No, Todd, Is that where Barkley.
Speaker 3: Had that famous comment about the country he was going
Speaker 3: to like?
Speaker 2: No, that was in the Olympics England. Yeah, yeah, well
Speaker 2: you would be wrong, see No. Connor, would you like
Speaker 2: to wager a guess about Israel?
Speaker 4: Israel? Yeah, okay, Cuba Cuba, that was allowed back then.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was allowed back then in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety two. But beat Cuba. I don't know where they
Speaker 2: faced Cuba. I don't think they went on out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably not there checking. I'm good, great.
Speaker 5: I remember there was this I don't know who's doing
Speaker 5: play by play for this, uh for Seattle for the
Speaker 5: Sonics back then. But ray Allen was just like going
Speaker 5: off one night. It's one of my favorite calls ever.
Speaker 5: But the guy goes, ray Allen is hearing signals from
Speaker 5: other planets. That guy was funny man. I don't remember
Speaker 5: his name.
Speaker 2: That sounds like something we would have settle on in
Speaker 2: Sports Center. Yeah, he man, that dude is funny. Back then,
Speaker 2: we got away with a lot. His management wouldn't stay
Speaker 2: up till eleven o'clock. I mean that was how we
Speaker 2: knew that they weren't staying up, because we would say
Speaker 2: stuff and we were like, oh, man, they're definitely going
Speaker 2: to call us on the carpet. Next day. He'd walk
Speaker 2: in and then you know, he walk by our boss
Speaker 2: and he'd go hell and we go. And then I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, he didn't stay up to watch us
Speaker 2: on Sports Center.
Speaker 6: Yes, paul Usa Cuba box score Michael Jordan two of
Speaker 6: six from the.
Speaker 2: Phone Old Ray.
Speaker 4: Six points, Cuba, hold him.
Speaker 2: What did you learn today? Todd?
Speaker 3: Tim Hasselbeck cut by the Ravens right in front of
Speaker 3: everyone on HBO's Hard Knocks.
Speaker 2: He was a good guest today, great appearance, seatan. What
Speaker 2: did you learn today?
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Speaker 2: Yes he does.
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