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Speaker 1: This is mick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 2: And the official Dallas Cowboys at.

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Speaker 1: Now Here are Bill Jones, heck Ma Harrison, Everson Wolves,

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Speaker 1: and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: And we're looking on the bright side on a Tuesday

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Speaker 3: at high noon here inside the SWBC podcast. Heck Ma

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Speaker 3: Harrison says, come on in, it's time for mickshots. Heck

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Speaker 3: Ma Harrison, Mickey Spagnola, And well, let's just put it

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Speaker 3: this way. This Cowboys team is doing a better than

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Speaker 3: a Cowboys team up north of the border in Oklahoma. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you've seen Oklahoma State play yeah or not play?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it hadn't been good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's that because it's the bright spot and

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Speaker 3: right side.

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Speaker 1: Right side? Isn't there a song, mister brightsiders.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. We should start the show with that.

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Speaker 3: All right, We've got much to get to. We heard

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Speaker 3: from a head coach since we last convened. We heard

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Speaker 3: from an owner, president and general manager since we last convened,

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Speaker 3: and perhaps we that shed some light on what happened

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Speaker 3: on Sunday in Chicago, and we look ahead to Micah

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Speaker 3: and the Packers coming here on Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Can you hear Jerry's answer to that question?

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Speaker 3: Well, I first heard this was yesterday. The question was

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Speaker 3: posed to Jerry. I don't know who posed it to

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Speaker 3: Jerry about will there be will the Cowboys honor Micah

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Speaker 3: with some sort of a video or something? It was

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Speaker 3: like this, and I had the same reaction you just

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Speaker 3: had on your face. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Like, was Leloy Leroy Jordan coming back to town or something?

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Speaker 3: I mean, okay, just compare it to Luca for a second. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Luca was here much longer than a couple more seasons

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Speaker 3: anyway than Micah was here and took the team to

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Speaker 3: the NBA Finals the year before. I mean, I was

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Speaker 3: just stunned that that was even a thought.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked that he had to answer it and

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Speaker 1: then answer it again this morning.

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Speaker 3: Did he really? Okay?

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Speaker 4: I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no ever since did you ever come back here

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Speaker 3: and play? Did did you play a game at Texas

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Speaker 3: Stadium after you left? Okay? And did they do a

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Speaker 3: video for you?

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Speaker 1: No interceptions?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jimmy wasn't having that. Neither was jar Have we

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Speaker 4: honored anybody here this year at all.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember them ever doing that for a player

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Speaker 1: coming back before a game. Just remind me, Oh, they

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Speaker 1: do it for Emmett?

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Speaker 3: They probably did. Of course they play when it came

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Speaker 3: back with it came back and did play. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: know the first preseason game after Emmett went to the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals was in two thousand and three. Uh it was

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Speaker 3: at eric Cowboys played at Arizona. Okay, we did that game, Mickey.

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Speaker 1: That's right, we did.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: But it was a preseason again, right, exactly.

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Speaker 2: It was a silly question. It was a silly question.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm glad he didn't just give them a

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Speaker 5: condescending answer to it, but still like that onmeo G.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, should explain those who are not.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I haven't seen this one right here?

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Speaker 2: That's it? Is it a new edition?

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Speaker 3: Like Everson is admiring.

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Speaker 2: He's just seeing me for the first time.

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Speaker 4: He's been in the room for fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: Shirt that is wearing. How would you describe your shirt?

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Speaker 6: It's maybe twenty five Yeah, maybe it's baby blue shirt.

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Speaker 4: Nice man, title book.

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Speaker 6: I see, because we should get shirts. Man, we don't

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Speaker 6: get shirts. We do Q and as speak. We should

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Speaker 6: get shirts. Man, they said, just give us one shirt.

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Speaker 1: We got Star Sports Tour sh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but man, we need that too.

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Speaker 1: I think he bought the polo because that's a great look.

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Speaker 4: It's not a pole. That's the new order of quarter button.

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Speaker 1: And then he got a star and taped it on iron.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: It didn't come to that yet. I'm definitely going to

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Speaker 2: the pro.

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Speaker 3: Shop the Nike collection.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's nice, that's twenty twenty five. Yeah, come on,

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Speaker 6: man's right upstairs. Man, you know it's right up there. Man,

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Speaker 1: Well, sure he does.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he did, of course. Kiss you may continue.

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Speaker 6: William signed, continuing Where were all?

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Speaker 3: So, Jerry?

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Speaker 1: They asked Jerry if there was any more meaning to

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Speaker 1: this game against the Packer because Micah was coming back,

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Speaker 1: and he said, yes, yes, got to win.

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Speaker 3: So and not because Mike is going back. They got

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Speaker 1: I have nothing, but if there's more importance to it,

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Speaker 1: I guess it was probably the question.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was that was amazing.

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Speaker 1: To me, so so so Booker Booker yes, high ankle spring.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine Booker's probably in the same boat, except that,

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Speaker 1: at least for an offensive lineman, he doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: get back quicker.

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Speaker 2: He's still a three pounds man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think of what he had been on Michaeh's

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Speaker 1: Well, well, they'll put Michael wherever there's a backup now, okay, right,

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Speaker 1: so I think that fast and brock Kaufman be ready.

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Speaker 3: Well tell you guys. I mean we'll get into this

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Speaker 3: as the week goes on. But how much will.

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Speaker 2: Number?

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Speaker 3: What numbers he worn again?

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Speaker 2: Fifty two?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 3: What number is Michael wearing?

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Speaker 4: Zero?

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Speaker 3: One, one, one? Okay, I can remember zero or one.

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Speaker 3: I think Matthew Golden has zero for them, first first

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Speaker 3: player wearing number one since Ernie Lambeau War number one

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Speaker 3: for the Packers hundred years ago. No, it's true, it's true, yeah, man.

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Speaker 1: But how much you and he's turning in his grave too, I.

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Speaker 2: Bet he is.

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Speaker 3: And that was just because he was the first player

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Speaker 1: But now he's got a stadium now.

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Speaker 3: And a leap named after him as well. But how

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Speaker 3: much is number one going to be on the minds

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Speaker 3: of the two tackles that are starting this game when

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Speaker 3: you're talking about matching up, matching up and finding weaknesses

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Speaker 3: on the offensive line, He's going to be in there.

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Speaker 5: When the clock went zero, zero zero, That's that's when

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Speaker 5: they started thinking about Micah.

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Speaker 2: That is a crazy matchup.

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Speaker 1: They will have a tight end in motion to any

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Speaker 3: The tight end's going to be a yeah, Mike. If

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Speaker 3: Michael the tight ends coming back, it be like it's

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Speaker 3: in motion to see if the obvious lead, to see

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Speaker 3: if the defense is playing a man or not. Okay,

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Speaker 3: And so if mic is moving around, the tight end

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Speaker 3: You're gonna married or you're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna use two tight ends all the time just in case.

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Speaker 6: But we're not worried about him, No, not at all.

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Speaker 6: We're not worried about it. Hell yeah you are, Oh

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Speaker 6: yeah you are. Oh yes you are. Yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 6: have her.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have no, no, You're gonna have somebody watching

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Speaker 5: him from the moment he gets off the bus. Uh,

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Speaker 5: going into the locker room. Man, this is a challenge

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Speaker 5: for us. And I guess my worry is is guiding

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Speaker 5: And I know, look, you're gonna sort her a tight

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Speaker 5: end to him and say, hey, you guys are buzz

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Speaker 5: and buddies. But that's that's gonna limit that's gonna limit

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Speaker 5: your offense. And I guess you're already limited. Uh anyway,

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Speaker 5: But I guess the question I had, even with Booker

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Speaker 5: going down after the whole CD thing, that we knew

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Speaker 5: he was gonna be out. Do you guys, Are you

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Speaker 5: guys one of those podcasts that believe in the next

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Speaker 5: man up?

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Speaker 2: Mentality? Yes? Is that what your deal?

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Speaker 6: I don't know about them, but yes, I've always started

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Speaker 6: next man Now. The Cowboys entire existence was always out

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Speaker 6: the next man up. You always have these big time

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Speaker 6: first rounders, but then here come these guys, undrafted free

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Speaker 4: They've stepped up.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's a yeah story of the NFL.

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Speaker 6: I mean yeah, Well, the Cowboys have always really been

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Speaker 6: good at it, especially the way we.

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Speaker 3: Sign all across the league. Monsters are Yeah, I'm a next.

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Speaker 4: Man up guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so guys like TJ.

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Speaker 5: Bass and we already talked about brock Hoffman stepping in

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Speaker 5: for BB. That's gonna be a problem because you know

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Speaker 5: stop our running attack. That's literally from the edges, you

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Speaker 1: Again, well, camp, just make them play the run, do

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Speaker 3: But here's the other thing. When you think of the

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Speaker 3: interior offensive lineman for the Cowboys, Now, okay, when when

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Speaker 3: you put the roster together back in March, in April

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Speaker 3: interioror offensive linemen have you now lost? You lost Robert Jones,

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Speaker 3: who's a veteran guy, lost him early, You lost him

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Speaker 3: in training camp. Okay, he's done. You've lost Cooper BB

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Speaker 3: and have You've lost Tyler Booker. So there's you're Tyler

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Speaker 3: Smith is at the top of the rung. There is

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Speaker 3: your top four offensive lineman as you put this or

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Speaker 3: back in the off season.

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Speaker 1: See and the deal with next man up? Okay, he's up.

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Speaker 1: Who's the next man to the next man? And now

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Speaker 1: you're getting real thin right on the offensive?

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Speaker 6: Well, one thing you worry about with Green Bay, I mean,

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Speaker 6: they were already a good defense before Micah got there.

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Speaker 6: So while we're talking about who's going to be moving

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Speaker 6: with Michael, you still got guys at are on this defense.

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Speaker 3: At least they don't have Kenny Clark over there now.

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Speaker 5: Well, so sorry, they got Wyatt and then they got

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Speaker 5: what they're waiting on Kenny.

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Speaker 4: I'm still waiting on kid.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's the what?

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Speaker 1: What has this team done consistently?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: The first three games run the football?

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Speaker 1: They ran the football three one hundred yard games in

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Speaker 1: a row, and I went and asked and got looked up.

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Speaker 1: The last time they've had more than three in a

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Speaker 1: row was five in two thy and twenty three.

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Speaker 5: But look here, here's the the problem is is what

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Speaker 5: And now you bring again Hoffman. Hoffman, yes, Hoffman the center.

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Speaker 5: And so your swing tackle is well, your backup swing

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Speaker 1: No, yes, okay, backups tackle.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, he's going to be the backup center because

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Speaker 3: Or is Wesley French the backup center? Well the practice

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Speaker 1: But remember, you got to have eight offensive linemen active

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Speaker 5: I literally only bring that point up because being limited

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Speaker 4: They can't stop the run.

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Speaker 6: This is where I was, and he said that it's

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Speaker 6: But now Michaeh is there and he's got a better

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Speaker 3: And he's a big reason that Rashaun Garry already has

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Speaker 6: If it would be it'd be nice if we could

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Speaker 6: Right now, I wouldn't say I wouldn't worry about where

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Speaker 1: And then hold on to it after your thirty yard run.

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Speaker 3: This goes back to why it was so important, yes

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Speaker 2: That's I mean.

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Speaker 6: Then then when we need to, we need to throw

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Speaker 6: they play for us to run these short routes. Pickens

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Speaker 4: If not, right, they got no.

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Speaker 6: Everybody else is one on one, So they say, you

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Speaker 1: You know why the safeties were playing downtown Chicago right right,

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Speaker 3: Let me go on over there. Let me give you

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Speaker 3: He just happened to be on serious NFL this morning

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Speaker 3: had great insight, I thought in regards to why Jake

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Speaker 4: Well to us, and that's what I'm out that early

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Speaker 3: But the key on that is is having the lead.

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Speaker 3: You got to have the lead where the team is

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Speaker 1: You heard what you heard. You heard what Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he didn't even like speaking about him.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's frustrating about this though, Dennis Allen. For

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Speaker 5: they had no turnovers. And then shows up the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: You know, let's just let's see Allen. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: You know it, Well, come on, how the Viking revitalized

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Speaker 3: His defense, his defense played really good. The first three

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Speaker 1: And Baldemore's defense didn't do anything against the Lions. Excuse

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Speaker 5: Well hey, And to the Lions credit and Campbell's credit,

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Speaker 5: why don't we take that same philosophy into this game

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Speaker 6: One thing that we have we talked about last last week.

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Speaker 6: I think so, and that I know so that that

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Speaker 6: And now you want down one receiver. Yeah, they should

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Speaker 5: When you have a quarterback that's been in the league

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Speaker 6: And those that has his supporting staff, it's more it's

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Speaker 3: Picking it up and.

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Speaker 5: Wide receivers normal, Well, that's another confident, that's another conversation.

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Speaker 1: So what's worse missing two guys on the offensive line

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Speaker 4: It's missing Lamb, that's just me.

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Speaker 4: Who we're going through now.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just I'm just thinking about what.

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Speaker 3: Ron Kaufman and started seven games last year. T J.

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Speaker 6: You can always help offense lineman on protection. You can

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Speaker 4: That's just the difference. That's the playmaker that you need.

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Speaker 6: When it comes to offensive lineman, we can, we can

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Speaker 4: We can't get another CD Lamb.

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Speaker 5: Out there, No, no, no, And I don't and I don't

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Speaker 5: I think that pretty much puts everything up for grass

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be one dimensional.

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Speaker 5: And I think the way that CD Lamb was eating

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Speaker 6: I think we stay more diverse if we have a

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Speaker 6: we're trying to run the ball on the on the

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'd better go with that.

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Speaker 3: Well, And I would say that scoring fourteen points in

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Speaker 3: Very good, ever, so nice read there. Mickey asked a

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Speaker 3: question right before we came back. He asked, though, and

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Speaker 3: he's perusing his legal fight trying to figure out when

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Speaker 3: CD got hurt in the game. It was the sixth

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Speaker 3: offensive play of the game for the Cowboys, Mickey, it

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Speaker 3: was early sixth offensive play of the game and second

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Speaker 5: Keep seeing that replay, and we are so lucky that

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Speaker 5: he didn't break that ankle because it looked like it

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Speaker 5: was a hip drop.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what when I went back and look at

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Speaker 3: the way the guy tackled him and and kind of

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Speaker 3: had around his ankle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they did not look They didn't call it in

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Speaker 5: real time and they looked, but the way that he

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Speaker 5: brought him down and the way that he came back

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Speaker 5: on this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what is a running style that CD has too?

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Speaker 3: I mean he's fighting forevery yard and.

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Speaker 4: You know, use it breaks that tackle, That's what he's saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So at that time, the game was only seven to nothing, right,

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Speaker 1: and then they drove for a field goal the rest

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Speaker 1: of that drive.

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Speaker 3: Kind of a different deal when you're running from the

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Speaker 3: running back position rather than in the open field.

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Speaker 5: I'm not as I'm not as upset about them putting

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Speaker 5: him at the running but I was upset about it

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Speaker 5: on Sunday. But I understand, get your playmakers the ball. However,

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Speaker 5: you can reverse put him in the back field out

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Speaker 5: of direct snap to him if you know. Teams have

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Speaker 5: done worse. So I'm I understand. I'm putting me putting

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Speaker 5: him in the backfield this year.

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Speaker 2: I believe he did a lot. I mean a few

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Speaker 2: times last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bears did it with Dj Moore, didn't they?

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Speaker 1: They had sure carried four times.

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Speaker 6: But Dj Moore is built like yeah, he's built for it,

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Speaker 6: like more running back.

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Speaker 5: Like you said, I heard somebody yesterday talking about Debo

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Speaker 5: and the way the Commanders are using Debo in the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I know that's a long way of the way, but

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Speaker 2: now that's the way they.

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Speaker 4: Were using him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bears going to start doing it with Luther Burden.

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Speaker 5: You watch why is that Mickey get all in his hands?

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Speaker 3: Okay. Mickey Coach was asked about the defensive busts on

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Speaker 3: the big plays in the game on Sunday, starting with

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Speaker 3: the Romo Doonza touchdown, which was a third and eight

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Speaker 3: play at the Dallas thirty five yard line where Trayvon slipped.

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Speaker 3: What was the explanation that might have been a little

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Speaker 3: too tight. It's too tight considering the situation. Okay. It's

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Speaker 3: third and eight at the thirty five at the Dallas

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Speaker 3: thirty five yard line, Okay, and that's when Trayvon's going

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Speaker 3: to go play press. Yeah, they got eight yards for

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Speaker 3: they need eight yards for a first down. And when

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Speaker 3: you consider what the mindset of the offense is here,

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Speaker 3: and by the way they put Zakias a slot guy

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Speaker 3: in motion, they already they detected that the Cowboys were playing. Man,

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Speaker 3: if they didn't already know it, since Trayvon was pressing

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Speaker 3: on the outside, that just confirmed it for the young quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And so it's an easy I mean, he was going

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Speaker 3: to go to odoon'sday no matter. Well, even if Trayvon

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Speaker 3: didn't slip, because it was going to be a safe

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Speaker 3: go route down the sideline. Right.

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Speaker 6: I thought that CD played I'm sorry, I thought that

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Speaker 6: Trayvon played with more panic than poise. You know, when

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Speaker 6: you're dealing with the limitations that he's got physically, then

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Speaker 6: you just have to understand you can't make any gambles.

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Speaker 6: He gambled too much on that when the man came

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Speaker 6: in motion, that's when Diggs came up. He tried to

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Speaker 6: sneak up on him. You know, he tried to surprise

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Speaker 6: him with that surprise jam. Your body ain't ready for

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Speaker 6: that right now. You know, you need to just stay back.

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Speaker 6: Either stay solid and play a conservative jam, meaning you

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Speaker 6: keep leverage over the top, or you do the same

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Speaker 6: from backing off and do it from a back pedal.

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Speaker 6: But you have to keep leverage over the top right now.

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Speaker 6: You don't have the ability to make a mistake as

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Speaker 6: he ended up doing and then recover. It's hard enough

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Speaker 6: to do that when you're completely healthy.

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Speaker 3: How about this? Could it be also that Trayvon's competitive

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Speaker 3: fire got the best of him there because Okay, he

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Speaker 3: hadn't been playing man much at all this year.

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Speaker 1: He hadn't been playing much football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so he's like, Okay, this is my opportunity,

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Speaker 3: this is my opportunity against their top receiver. And he's

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Speaker 3: got this competitive trait that every every great player has,

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Speaker 3: and I get that got the most of him.

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Speaker 6: What he's also doing is he's trying to react off

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Speaker 6: of last week as well, because everyone the narrative is

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Speaker 6: out there. He's not doing well, so he's got that

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Speaker 6: in his mind as well, trying to show somebody different.

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Speaker 4: You don't need to show anybody anything.

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Speaker 6: Just play the defense and once again, play it with

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Speaker 6: leverage so that guys don't get behind you for the

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Speaker 6: quick six, which is what we ended up having.

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Speaker 3: Basically what the head coach said about it is you

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Speaker 3: got to understand the situation. It's third and eight. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he got a little too tight, and.

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Speaker 6: Once again his technique was bad because he got caught trying.

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Speaker 4: To sneak the jam.

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Speaker 6: Okay, be in position, now slip down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he slipped down.

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Speaker 6: It was all about okay, they snapped it as soon

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Speaker 6: as he came up a flea flicker.

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Speaker 3: It better I discipline. Yes, what are they looking at?

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Speaker 3: I mean even in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: What are you looking at?

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Speaker 4: And that's the key in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: Because everybody have to be They were going to come

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Speaker 1: up and support.

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Speaker 4: The re not thank you, that's not your job.

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Speaker 1: And they needed to recognize who was in the game right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they don't know ten or the history,

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Speaker 1: but they have to know, right they didn't. They weren't

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Speaker 1: relying on burden in the first time.

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Speaker 6: I promise you when you if you look at the

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Speaker 6: technique of the safety is on that play, I bet

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Speaker 6: they didn't backpedal one bit.

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Speaker 2: No when the start of that.

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Speaker 6: But that play, once again, guys, defensive backs and especially

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Speaker 6: the secondary, is about timing. When you hand the ball

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Speaker 6: off on offense, your safety should already be retreating for

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Speaker 6: the past.

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Speaker 4: That's just what you do.

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Speaker 6: You don't stand there and wait for things to develop

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Speaker 6: because you're losing your leverage on the outside receivers as well.

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Speaker 4: It's just that simple.

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Speaker 6: You have to take your I used to take a

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Speaker 6: three step drop on every play, especially when I'm playing

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Speaker 6: the conservative manner, because that will keep leverage on you

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Speaker 6: on any wide receiver coming down the field, and as

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Speaker 6: a secondary, you gotta have leverage.

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Speaker 1: And the worst part was that it was basically two receivers.

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Speaker 1: Hooker had to decide, Okay, where do I go.

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Speaker 4: He shouldn't be the only one back there.

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Speaker 3: I know that's what he was a single hi.

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Speaker 6: But then you got you got guys on the they

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Speaker 6: got third on this end as well.

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Speaker 1: Everybody released it.

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Speaker 5: Guys, I got news for you that they've been biting

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Speaker 5: the run for the last three weeks. So you shouldn't

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Speaker 5: be surprised that the team. That's why they ran the

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Speaker 5: play right, and I mean they showed the personnel. And

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Speaker 5: what I've stopped doing is is thinking that, God, these

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Speaker 5: guys are not prepared because they spend all week, all morning,

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Speaker 5: all afternoon and evening up here going over everything you

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Speaker 5: got pregame. You gotta walked through, you got every part

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Speaker 5: of it. That's reminding you of what these guys want

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Speaker 5: to do. Ben Johnson didn't come into this game thinking

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Speaker 5: about a fleet flicker. He knew he was gonna run

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Speaker 5: fleet flicker, and when the opportunity presented itself, I mean

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Speaker 5: he definitely he drew it up and it happened just perfectly.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it wasn't perfect to throw back to the quarterback

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Speaker 5: wasn't perfect, but.

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Speaker 3: That's because Mozzie blew it up.

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Speaker 1: Ozzie was blowing that play up.

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Speaker 3: Ever since, looking at the play, well.

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Speaker 6: Maligue Hooker actually did retreat on the snap of the ball,

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Speaker 6: but then.

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Speaker 3: The defense they were the defense they were playing, does

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Speaker 3: that corner need to read it, and when he sees

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Speaker 3: the two receivers released, one.

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Speaker 4: Receiver went inside. Okay, that's when you bailed back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because you still gotta play your third They were

672
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Speaker 6: just slow doing it.

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Speaker 4: Maligue Hooker was back. He actually retreated three steps, just

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Speaker 4: as I said.

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Speaker 6: But then he also came up up while the receivers

676
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Speaker 6: were coming at him, So then that just negated his retreatment.

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Speaker 2: I got it. I got news for you guys coming up.

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Speaker 5: They got a Josh Jacobs that every safety pays attention to,

679
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Speaker 5: and if they'd run it, they can run another fleet flicker.

680
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Speaker 5: In this game, you can get the same situation because

681
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Speaker 5: you better have attention to detail every time this guy

682
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Speaker 5: gets to the line of scrimmage, and they have capable

683
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Speaker 5: wide receivers that can burn you down the field as well.

684
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Speaker 2: So third play, you don't fix it.

685
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Speaker 3: Third play was the tight end touchdown by himself.

686
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Speaker 1: Not the screen pass, not that one that was bad,

687
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Speaker 1: or the twenty nine yard or bird.

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Speaker 3: These were just the three that he meant and shot

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Speaker 3: and I ever mentioned on his own. He was basically

690
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Speaker 3: asked a general question about the bust on defense, and

691
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Speaker 3: so the third one that he mentioned was the tight

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Speaker 3: end and losing the vertical seam for the mixuchdown.

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Speaker 5: I got to ask you, Yeah, I got a question

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Speaker 5: for you because I read your article and because I

695
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Speaker 5: read your Tuesday article and you did not give a no.

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Speaker 5: There was no glimmer of hope in that article. There's

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Speaker 5: no there's no silver lining in there, Mickey, And I

698
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Speaker 5: just wanted to know is that what it was, because

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, I mean, based off of the numbers,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you broke it down with that, with the stats,

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Speaker 5: the numbers, how it all happened, how we were compromised.

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Speaker 5: After you watch that and after you you're at a

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Speaker 5: three game sample size right now, is there a glimmer

704
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Speaker 5: of hope going into this game versus the Packers.

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00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to score. That was my point going

706
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Speaker 1: into the game and coming out of the game. Last

707
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Speaker 1: night was a prime example. Detroit had to score thirty

708
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Speaker 1: some points to beat Baltimore, right, and Baltimore was going

709
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Speaker 1: to have to score forty to beat Detroit and they

710
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Speaker 1: supposedly have good defenses allegedly.

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Speaker 3: Now the Ravens, you should point out the Ravens were

712
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Speaker 3: missing Kyle van Noy and Nomdi might be kidding to.

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Speaker 1: Make a difference with Marder difference. So the strength of

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Speaker 1: this offense, I mean, this team is the offense you

715
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Speaker 1: got to score. It's what I wrote before the game.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know where this defense is going

717
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: to go until they get some of these players back.

718
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Speaker 1: When you have four of your top six corners sitting

719
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Speaker 1: there watching, what are you doing? I got to have

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Speaker 1: three corners on the field. I got a guy that

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Speaker 1: I picked up off the Bears or the Minnesota waiver

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Speaker 1: wire starting at last corner on the field, and he

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Speaker 1: was And I guarantee you when they traded for Elam

724
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Speaker 1: they didn't think he was going to be a starter,

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Speaker 1: maybe the third guy they needed to back up behind

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Speaker 1: Digs and Bland and Digs and wasn't ready and Bland

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Speaker 1: gets hurt, and it's like, okay, next man up.

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Speaker 6: Now we already knew that coming into the seat, we're

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Speaker 6: going to have to score a whole bunch of points.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that was the whole point of getting picking.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking was going to be a starter.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Would they didn't account for the loss of Jordan Lewis,

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Speaker 3: then well, here's what was going to happen. Did and

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Speaker 3: plays in the slot, digs and Bland. Then when they

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Speaker 3: go to Nickel, Blang goes in the slot. And that's

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Speaker 3: what they were hoping. That's a starter in but they

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Speaker 3: were hoping.

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Speaker 4: Because that's the way we stop most games.

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Speaker 3: Well in the NFL, seventy of the plays Nickel, but they.

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Speaker 1: Were actually hoping that Revel would have been ready to go.

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's the difference right there.

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Speaker 2: I think he's ready.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how quickly he can ramp up to

745
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Speaker 1: play football physically. When I watch him rehab, he's ready.

746
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Speaker 1: But now he hadn't.

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00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 4: Played rehab, is still in the rehab state.

748
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Speaker 3: Well, that's what he's doing on IR. That's all you

749
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Speaker 3: that's all you can do.

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Speaker 1: You can't, you can't. They can start him practicing a

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Speaker 1: week next Monday.

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Speaker 3: What was the stop gap until Revel's ready?

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Speaker 2: Right right?

754
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Speaker 3: And that would have we're in that stop gap right now.

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Speaker 3: And if he wasn't ready, maybe Josh Butler who came

756
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Speaker 3: on and played last year, but he was coming off

757
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Speaker 3: an ACL he was at the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 5: So if you're if your eber flues is your mentality

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Speaker 5: and that coach coach talked about this too. Personnel change.

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Speaker 5: As far as your second day you change to though

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Speaker 5: guys are well, then you have you have guys like

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Speaker 5: number fourteen Bell.

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Speaker 1: That's safety, but I'm talking cornerbacks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well, I think a lot of the breakdown

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Speaker 5: that you're having does have a lot to do with

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Speaker 5: your safety play as well. You got caught in man

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Speaker 5: against Chicago, and we just talked about that with Trayvon Diggs.

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Speaker 5: But I think some of these guys that are coming

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Speaker 5: wide open, your question is how are your safeties responding

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Speaker 5: to that? How are you playing zone on the back

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Speaker 5: end with safety support? That's those are the bigger questions going.

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Speaker 4: Inside to me with his safeties like pick your poison.

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Speaker 6: But as far as I'm concerned, you got to put

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Speaker 6: another guy out there.

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Speaker 4: You gotta put another guy there who's hung they starts ball,

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Speaker 4: is there is one?

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Speaker 1: Is that guy they started using Jannie Thomas in past

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Speaker 1: number two situations.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they trust Markis. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they think he's a middle of the

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Speaker 1: field safety. They're both kind of safety.

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Speaker 2: You think Wilson is the point.

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Speaker 1: That's why they've been moving him closer to the line.

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Speaker 3: Keep in mind that Marquise Bell was your starting linebacker

785
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Speaker 3: when the Cowboys lost to the Packers, the same Packers,

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Speaker 3: not the same Packers, but the Packers forty eight thirty

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Speaker 3: two in the plaint and Jordan Love with Michael Parsons

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Speaker 3: on the podcast said, well, we looked out there and

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Speaker 3: we saw number fourteens playing linebacker, So we're gonna run.

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Speaker 6: The football and that's why he needs to be back

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Speaker 6: at his original position, which is safety. They've been trying

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Speaker 6: to make this guy linebacker for the past two years.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense to me, not at all.

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Speaker 3: All right, we've got more to get to. Another segment

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Speaker 3: All right, final few minutes here of mixed shots And so, Mickey,

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Speaker 3: what else you got there on your legal pad? Do

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Speaker 3: we need to get to anything else that Jerry said

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Speaker 3: today that we need to be aware of.

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Speaker 1: I wrote down some of the things he had to say.

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Speaker 1: They asked him about secondary changes. By the way, he said,

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Speaker 1: we got people coming. So I mean, do you want

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Speaker 1: to see true.

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Speaker 3: Keys a chance this week?

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Speaker 4: And wait, wait, wait, do I want to.

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Speaker 11: See who for Ceazy, for Queazy, just slur bridges.

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Speaker 1: They even had him out by the way several uh gils.

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Speaker 2: How did you think about Ready Stewart? Do you guys?

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Speaker 2: Are you on board with Ready?

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Speaker 3: I think he's played well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like him.

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Speaker 1: He's at least carried out as a signing him.

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Speaker 5: I think on the first play he came on the

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Speaker 5: blitz and after that, right, but I mean after that,

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Speaker 5: I mean after that it probably wasn't much.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Mickey, I was trying to see what my note

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Speaker 1: said about. Oh, he's he said something about what they

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Speaker 1: asked him about Micah and the money. Oh, I know

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Speaker 1: what he said. They asked him if it got personal

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Speaker 1: and that's why they didn't sign him, and he said

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Speaker 1: absolutely not, not at all. It was not personal why

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Speaker 1: they didn't. He said, I gave him my best offer

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Speaker 1: I could give him, and it wasn't enough. So it

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Speaker 1: was time to put it out there, to put some

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Speaker 1: chum out there, to see what it was worth to

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Speaker 1: get something in return for him if we weren't going

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Speaker 1: to pay him that much.

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Speaker 5: So those guys in that defensive end room have got

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Speaker 5: to be sick right now going into a game versus

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Speaker 5: Michaeh and knowing that they are struggling the way that

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Speaker 5: they are, and everybody is comparing them their production to

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Speaker 5: Micah's production, you know. And so Sam Williams, all of them,

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Speaker 5: you know, our second round draft pick. He's got to

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Speaker 5: be feeling that pressure from the Micah.

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Speaker 3: Trace and the words of the head coach Donovan. Azeraku

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Speaker 3: played great for the second straight game.

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Speaker 1: And if you watched, he actually.

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Speaker 3: Twenty said yesterday, I don't know if it's great.

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Speaker 1: He was making plays, he was doing what he was

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Speaker 1: supposed to do, setting the edge. He got a couple pressures,

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Speaker 1: and I saw him make some plays. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Last year they were third in the league with fifty

885
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: two sacks. Okay, I went back and looked, thirty eight

886
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: of them went out to be building thirty eight sacks left. Well, yeah,

887
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: but it was only twelve to one guy.

888
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, okay.

889
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: So the middle of their twenty sex So these other

890
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: guys that got left behind, they had like fourteen. But

891
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: how many of those sacks were they all supposed to

892
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: now be a eight sack guy.

893
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: Now, how many of those sacks were because of number less?

894
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just telling you that these other guys like

895
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: Golston five and a half, some guy named Carl Lawson.

896
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: I forgot he was on the team. He had five

897
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: Overshown had five, right, DeMarcus Lawrence three, Kendrick's three. So

898
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: they had some other guys that were but but he

899
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: wasn't playing on the head. Ten and a half come

900
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: in the door and Fellers, yeah.

901
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: And how many?

902
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: Now is he a counter?

903
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 6: You see Saul Gary sitting on the floor. Light double

904
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 6: team no longer coming my way, Thank the Lord. These

905
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 6: guys are pressing and they gotta stop.

906
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 2: And this is in this game.

907
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: You don't see anybody.

908
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: It seems like the defensive ends when I watch them, uh,

909
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: they're trying to bull rush. I don't see anybody getting

910
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: around the edge right the way Haley would or Micah

911
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: Micah going around the edge. They're all just going right

912
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: into the offensive lineman. It's like Haley needs to get

913
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: out there and start coaching.

914
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: He's out there every day every day.

915
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 4: He didn't be telling them something more than that.

916
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: The problem is no one listens to him.

917
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: That's a problem. That is a problem.

918
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: That is nobody's listening to Charles.

919
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 5: That's a good let's got to start somewhere, and I'm

920
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 5: I know in this game, these guys are under a

921
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 5: lot of pressure knowing that Mike is coming back into

922
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 5: the building.

923
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So the Cowboys have three sacks in three games,

924
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: so wonderful. They're on a pace for seventeen for the season.

925
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 3: Who are the three guys who have sacks?

926
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 4: Houston?

927
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: James Houston has won.

928
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: Then the cornerback have one?

929
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: No, Marshawn Kneeland was gonna say Niland and Kenny Clark. Okay,

930
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: so there is and Kenny Clark doesn't take long to

931
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: call roll.

932
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: When he went down with that injury, the play was going,

933
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: he went down, the play continued, He got back up

934
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: to try to do something, and then it was over,

935
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: and then he finally went down again.

936
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 4: How's he doing?

937
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: He tried.

938
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: They think he'll be okay, he told me, well, they

939
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: all say that. I said, how you doing it? Afterwards

940
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: or whatever? When I ran into him, and he said, yeah,

941
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't as bad as I thought.

942
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 2: So my question is, ceedee, lamb, is it two weeks,

943
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 2: three weeks?

944
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 3: Three to five?

945
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: I said, only say three? I said three to five.

946
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: When I didn't know beginning, I did you did begin

947
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: three or five.

948
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna like I'm gonna do the morning news.

949
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: Does it's like told the Morning News. So I'm gonna say, well,

950
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: told Mickey Spagnola right, three to five weeks.

951
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: Sources say yeah, and Pickings we trust There you go, Well,

952
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: it's okay. But what do you think the packers are thinking?

953
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: They're gonna trust Pickens now we're taking him out? Can

954
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: Tolbert flow noise and Turpin beat me?

955
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 4: Well?

956
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 5: I trust Pickings. He's been there before. He's been a

957
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 5: number one wide receiver. He knows what the double team

958
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 5: is all about.

959
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 1: He's back to where he was in Pittsburgh.

960
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm saying.

961
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: That's that's wide receiver.

962
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 2: He's been there before.

963
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: And by the way, I don't have a problem with

964
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: him throwing helmet down on the sideline either.

965
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: Well, what was wrong with that?

966
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Speaker 3: No?

967
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 4: Nothing, though?

968
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: Was it he mad at himself?

969
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: He should have been.

970
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 5: Guys y'all know as well as anybody that perception is

971
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 5: not always reality. And we've had guys like as Brian

972
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 5: here that when he did stuff like that, they talked

973
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 5: about it as it was demonstrative. But this from his

974
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 5: reputation that you were talking about yesterday. His reputation is

975
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 5: in front of him and he has to be better

976
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 5: than that. Just stuff like that that you don't want

977
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 5: to get, and that, to me, that has to come

978
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 5: from his other teammates. You know, they should not allow

979
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 5: him to make that mistake. He's okay throwing the helmet

980
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 5: down and being upset, that's all that.

981
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: Clearly he wasn't bad at anybody else.

982
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you don't want that to fester within yourself.

983
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 6: So somebody, I'm sure Dak's going to go over to

984
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 6: him and already probably has like, hey man, you're gonna

985
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 6: be my guy.

986
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: Now, let's do this all right, I think you'd be

987
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 4: great with that.

988
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: What did it get interpreted as?

989
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 4: No, no, we were trying to head it off at

990
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 4: the past.

991
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 9: No, no, no.

992
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: It gets interpreted by people out who aren't really watching

993
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 3: the game. It gets on ESPN or whatever, and people say, oh,

994
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 3: there's the Pickens again, and they don't have the the

995
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: perspective of what just happened. The ball went off his hands,

996
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: and it's clearly he was mad at himself, and so

997
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: he throws the helmet down. But people without that perspective, so, oh,

998
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: he's mad at his teammates.

999
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: I thought he got on TV when he went to

1000
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: the side.

1001
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Speaker 4: No, no, it was after we were we were about

1002
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Speaker 4: what could No.

1003
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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, but I didn't know how

1004
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: it was portrayed.

1005
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 3: I thought it was all well, I thought I thought

1006
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 3: it was, and watching the game, knew that's why he's

1007
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 3: right portrayed.

1008
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 4: And the way heck was talking. I look forward to

1009
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Speaker 4: him coming out and balling out.

1010
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: All right, all right, we're gonna ball out again tomorrow, and.

1011
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: Old Cowboys got the title balling Out.

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1013
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