1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Previously on Queen of the con So I never deposited 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: that check into my bank account, like I never saw 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: that money. It was never mine. It just immediately then 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: went to Danielle. Danielle Miller frames her Los Angeles roommate 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: into taking the fall for her check fraud scheme. Karma 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: is a bitch, and I hope that it comes in 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: invites her in the ask, and it just might because 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: now Danielle is pleading no contest to one third degree 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: felony charge in Sara Sota, Florida, and if Prosecutor Andrew 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: Van Sickle gets his way, she could be looking at 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: five years behind bars. This person is more dangerous with 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: a cell phone than anybody I know of the firearm. 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: But if the judge takes pity on Danielle as other 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: judges have in the past, she could walk away. And 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: that's certainly what her attorney is pushing for. Rose's Rose's Rose. 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: If a drone and went into a grocery store and 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: stole a candy bar, that's paid debt. If a person 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: individually goes in that grocery store and sis saying candy 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: bar is still paid debt. Now it's up to Danielle herself. 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: She's got the gift of gab, but does she have 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: what it takes to talk her way out of this one. 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: I just have a couple of clarifications before I say 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: my statement is for that I had prepared, or will 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: her verbal gymnastics end up backfiring. The year in Riker's Island, 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: it's called a city year, which is actually eight months, 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: and it's at jail, not a prison, so that's not 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: prison time in the state of New York. I'm Jonathan 28 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: Walton and this is Queen of the con The Rich 29 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: Girl Episode nine. I was basically her mule. In May 30 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: of Danielle Miller impersonates a stranger named Erica Beers, whose 31 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: banking details she buys on telegram from a data breach. 32 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Danielle then creates a fake I D with her own 33 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: picture and victim Erica Beer's information, shows up at a 34 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: Sara Sotta Chase Bank drive through in a rented Jaguar 35 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: and attempts to withdraw eight thousand dollars in cash from 36 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: Erica Beer's bank account, but she gets busted and Sara 37 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: Sota County Sheriff's Detective Carlos Verdoni is telling the court 38 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: just how insanely committed Danielle was to impersonating Erica Bears 39 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: during her interrogation. What was alarming to me in this 40 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: particular situation when I was interviewing her is that she 41 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: knew Miss Beer so well that the answer she was 42 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: giving is as if she was Miss Beers. That speculation, 43 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: you didn't know what she Overall, I agree it's opinion 44 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: testimony in many ways, but I'm going to overrule the 45 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: objection because it's coupled with his response that she was 46 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: answering several personal questions about Miss Beers. Overall, Danielle has 47 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: pled no contest in this case, and now she's addressing 48 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: Sara Sota Circuit Court Judge Thomas Krug asking for leniency. 49 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: But first she just wants to correct some things that 50 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: were said about her in court over the past six hours. 51 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: She's wearing a hot pink pants suit and she really 52 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: pops in the courtroom. I'm posting a video clip of 53 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: her addressing the judge in court at Queen of the 54 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: Con on Instagram so you can see for yourself. She 55 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: kind of looks like a brunette version of l Woods 56 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: from Legally Blonde because isn't it the first cardinal rule 57 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: of part maintenance that you've forbidden to what's your hair 58 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: for at least twenty four hours after getting up firm 59 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: at the risk of deactivating the ammonium syglock lake. But 60 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: standing in court addressing the judge, Danielle is clearly annoyed 61 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: by all the bad stuff that's been said about her 62 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: during the sentencing hearing, and she wants to set the 63 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: record straight. They keep saying that I've moved to Miami 64 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: to commit these alleged crimes. I moved to Miami in 65 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: March of on March eight when I broke up with 66 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: my boyfriend and they closed New York City for COVID 67 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: on March fifteen, and I didn't want to go back 68 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: there because I lived with my boyfriend at the time 69 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: to like stay inside while we were on COVID like 70 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: um precautions where we weren't allowed to go outside. So 71 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: I stayed in Miami. That's why I moved here. Um. 72 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: And then the claiming is talking about making money up. 73 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: Danielle is referring to messages from her cell phone that 74 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: were read aloud in court where she communicated her financial 75 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: objectives in no uncertain terms. I already made g s today. 76 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: I had a dope week. I just got an account 77 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: with seventy in it, and I want all of it. 78 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: My goal is to make at least twenty g's a day, 79 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: so that I make at least six eight thousand by 80 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: January one. Well, Danielle has a simple and perfectly legal 81 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: explanation for all those messages, which is similar to that 82 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: famous and adelv defense ambition is not a crime. I 83 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: also own a production company. I don't know like talking 84 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: about goals of making money was a crime either, And 85 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: they keep saying this in these text messages. Um, that 86 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: was just a couple of the clarifications. Now that her 87 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: off the cuff remarks are over, Danielle is going to 88 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: read from her prepared statement, one that her attorney presumably approved, 89 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 1: though by the time she gets done reading it all, 90 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. Good afternoon, your hunt heard um? 91 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: When I was thirteen years old, I went through traumatic 92 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: experience as a victim of child pornography that scarred me 93 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. Sorry I got to 94 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: interrupt here. Daniel Miller was not the victim of child pornography. Yes, 95 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: she sent a sexually explicit video of herself to a 96 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: boy when she was just thirteen years old, and it 97 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: spread like wildfire across the school. And yes, it was 98 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: a painful and embarrassing experience, to be sure, But to 99 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: say you're the victim of child pornography implies that as 100 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: a child, an adult coerced you into sex on camera. 101 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: And that's not what swift Orgate was. It left a 102 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: mark on my psyche and I never really confronted or 103 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: dealt with that and the pain it caused, and it 104 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: inevitably led me down a path of regrettable decisions. One 105 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: of those regrets was not only this crime that I'm 106 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: pleading guilty too, but also getting roped into Sara Blast's 107 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: criminal activity. Sara Blast is the primary defendant on this case, 108 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: and sharing my phones with her and allowing her to 109 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: like talk me into doing all of these different things 110 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: with her, into these activities, sharing telegram names. I mean, 111 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Siara Blast is on the run. She hasn't shown up 112 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: for her court cases. She got arrested in several other states. 113 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Danielle might be throwing her partner in crime, Sierra Blasts, 114 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: under the bus now in front of the judge, but 115 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: back when she was yelling through the walls of that 116 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: Sara Sota County Sheriff's Office interrogation room, you're one of 117 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: my best friends. It was a different story. I love you, 118 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: you heard me said, I love you. Danielle is claiming 119 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: in this sentencing hearing that she was just going along 120 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: with Sierra's criminal enterprise and was solely influenced by her 121 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: to try and scam that bank. But during that interrogation, 122 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: Danielle is the one refusing to break character, insisting again 123 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: and again she's Erica Beers, just like her fake I 124 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: d says, and that Chase Bank account that she was 125 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: trying to withdraw eight thousand dollars from in Erica Beer's 126 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: name was hers. What's your name? Ericast like, I don't 127 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: understand Beers, but I don't understand. I don't understand why 128 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm being this is that's like taking money from my 129 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: own account. You know, the bank is fouling report. We're 130 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: just trying like we're just trying to figure out what. 131 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: But now addressing Judge Thomas Krug, Danielle appears to have 132 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: turned over a new leaf. During these times, I've always 133 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: shown up. I'm here to take responsibility for my actions, 134 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to be known that I've made mistakes, 135 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: and this is one of them. I've hurt people, but 136 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: mostly I've hurt myself and all of this by not 137 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: being true to myself and not confronting what had happened 138 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: to me when I was younger and trying to escape that. UM, 139 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: I reckon nice how broken I was. And I'm finally 140 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: facing that I'm pleading guilty to this one count of 141 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: possession of fraudulent identification. I could truly say that I've 142 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: learned from my mistakes, and my hope and prayer through 143 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: my experiences is to help young women not go down 144 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: the same path as I have. And I'm working now 145 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: with production companies to help victims of sexual abuse, and 146 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: that's part of one of my professions. UM. I'm also 147 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: a social media influencer, and I utilize that to try 148 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: and help victims of sexual abuse as well, and to 149 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: try and steer them off of the path of mistakes 150 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: that I've made. I'm just trying to face life head 151 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: on and in a healthy way as opposed to what 152 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: I've done before, and UM, I just really hope that 153 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: that is clear. I'm not trying to pull out your 154 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: heart strings by telling you about what happened to me 155 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: when I was younger, and that it's just that's my 156 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: true that's my past. But clearly she is trying really 157 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: hard to pull out the judge's heartstrings. Is it working. 158 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: It's too soon to tell, But the next part of 159 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: Danielle Miller's statement, I'm sure her attorney wishes she never uttered, 160 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: because it involves a case that Sarah Sotto Judge Thomas 161 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: Krug had no idea even existed. Remember that Seacoast Hotel 162 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: credit card scam in Miami that we told you about 163 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: in episode five where Danielle was offered a diversion program 164 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: and that case went away. Sarah Soda Prosecutor Andrew Van 165 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: Sickle never even included it on her criminal score sheet today, 166 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: but Danielle is about to bring it up on her 167 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: own in her mind to prove she's not the scammer 168 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: everyone thinks she is. I am stunned watching this all 169 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: unfold on zoom. There is a deposition that a Miami 170 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: UM P D and SO Secret Service liaison had taken 171 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: UM after I got rested in Sarasta because I had 172 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: um cooperated with them, and she had written or she 173 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: had said in her video deposition that I was not 174 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: the main proponent of these crimes, like including the one 175 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: in Sara Soda that Sarah had given me these phones, 176 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: that I was basically her mule. And yeah, I mean, 177 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm taking responsibility for my actions of having this possession 178 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: of this project identification. So yeah, is anybody know about 179 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: this deposition that she's referring to or depositions taken by 180 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: her defense attorney down in Miami, the same psyche type 181 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: of charge in Miami, that appending charge. No, it's it's 182 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: already been resolved. In fact, the case was null prost. 183 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: Danielle's attorney is correct that case was no prost or 184 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: not prosecuted, but it wasn't for lack of evidence or 185 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: a lack of guilt. So the judge asks the prosecutor, 186 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: Mr bensincore you rare of a case that was no 187 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: protest Intami. Now the judge knows what pre trial intervention is, 188 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: and if you listen to episode five, you do too. 189 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: Danielle's diversion program was a form of pre trial intervention. Basically, 190 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: it's a program offered to guilty first time offenders that 191 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: lets them avoid criminal prosecution. It's kind of like electing 192 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: to go to traffic school to keep points off your 193 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: driver's license for speeding ticket. But it certainly doesn't mean 194 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: you weren't speeding. Were you finished? Miss Millan? I just 195 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: want to say I'm truly sorry for what I did 196 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: in this case, In this case, what about all the 197 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: other cases? Sorry? Had to interject back to Danielle, I apologize, 198 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: and I would never let this happen ever, ever, ever again. Well, 199 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: how do you say this when it's your second time 200 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: or maybe third? If you tell me you went on 201 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: pre trial intervention in Miami. Here we are again. This 202 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: is the moment where Danielle bringing up that Miami case 203 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: is coming back to bider hard. I know it doesn't 204 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: look good. Um, Sierra Blast is someone that I met 205 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: when I was at Riker's Island during that time that 206 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: that happened in that case. I mean, yeah, yeah, I don't. 207 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: I just know that I'm actively trying to be a 208 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: better person every single day and that I really I 209 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: just don't ever want to be in a predicament like 210 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: this ever again. And I don't want to hurt anybody. 211 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: So this hurt somebody, and I just don't ever want 212 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: that to happen ever. Again, I'm not a lawyer, but 213 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: as someone who's been watching the sentencing hearing drama slowly 214 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: unfold over the past six hours, I can guarantee you 215 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: Danielle's soliloquy does not help her case. I actually think 216 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: it hurts her case. And the prosecutor is about to 217 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: throw some gas on that fire. Something you have not 218 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: said yet. Yes, but this right here says everything. He's 219 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: holding up a copy of that juicy New York Magazine 220 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: article about Danielle's criminal exploits and he reads the provocative 221 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: headline allowed to the judge. I more so consider myself 222 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: a con artist than anything. What are you pointing out? 223 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: And that's point out. This is pointing at a delicious 224 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: article that was written about me. So Danielle claims to 225 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: be suing New York Magazine for the article they published 226 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: about her, the one she willingly participated in and provided 227 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: months of interviews for the writer of that article. Gabrielle 228 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: Bluestone is watching this revelation unfold live on Zoom right 229 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: now with the rest of us. I wonder what she's thinking. 230 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: For the record, I searched and searched and searched New 231 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: York's civil court filings, and I can't find any lawsuits 232 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: brought by Danielle against anybody, let alone New York Magazine. Anyway, 233 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: it's the judge's turn to speak now and issue his sentence. 234 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: Ms Miller. I reviewed the probably to cause advidavit at 235 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: the time I took this plea of listened to you today, 236 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: I've listened to the testimony, and I've listened to the 237 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: argument by the lawyers. Each case has to be handled uniquely, 238 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: and a judge has to look at the facts of 239 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: each case uniquely. Although Mr Mitchell is right that a 240 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: petty theft is a petty theft, you know, as a judge, 241 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: I looked to see how the petty theft was committed 242 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: To keep that same analogy, Um, you know, someone would 243 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: be sentenced differently. I think a reasonable person would agree 244 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: if the petty theft was committed at a desperation and 245 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: if the petty theft was committed out of necessity stole 246 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: baby formula, which believe me, happens for a child that 247 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: they have no ability to pay for, that person would 248 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: likely and I've treated differently than someone who steals, who 249 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: has the money to pay for it themselves, it was 250 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: stolen before, and continues to do so. So even though 251 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: the theft is a theft, my job is to look 252 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: at that crime and then what I do is I 253 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of think about what's fair and reasonable in terms 254 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: of sentencing someone. And I've been doing this for a 255 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: long time, and to compare it and as Mr Mitchell stated, 256 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: and think of what's a fair sentence, fair meaning what's 257 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: what's appropriate just based on the crime. We've got a 258 00:16:54,600 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: pretty unique fraudulent use of a personal identification here. It's 259 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: not every day that you see a case where someone 260 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: is doctoring up credit card, a passport, changing SIM cards 261 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: on a phone so that when law enforcement or the 262 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: bank is calling that they're actually calling another phone of 263 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: the people in the driveway of the bank. This this 264 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: is different, folks, I mean, if if this is a 265 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: different kind of fraudulent use of personal identification. This certainly 266 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: took a lot of thought, planning, preparation of getting the 267 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: documents as I saw, exchanging photos, getting it onto the document, 268 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: onto the credit card, onto the passport, and then driving 269 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: to Sarah Soda and then having the phone ready changing 270 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: the SIM card, so it's now going to go to 271 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: the phone that you have in your possession. There's a 272 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: significant serious crime here. And then there's this discussion of 273 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: this being a business or you refer to as a game, 274 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: and I believe this to be your cell phone that 275 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: was presented, and that's a heightened level of concern for me. 276 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: So I say, well, has she done this before? Right? 277 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: I think that's a reasonable thing that you say. Is 278 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: the judge gonna think I've done this before? And then 279 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: I see you have? And then you went to jail 280 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: for a year and you got out and that didn't 281 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: do it. And then I learned about a case in 282 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: Miami where you're given free trial intervention where they believe 283 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: this Sierra is the main culprit. But I guess at 284 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: a minimum, we could agree that you and Sierra are 285 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: at it again. So I think the appropriate sentences. I 286 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: am going to adjudicate you guilty. I'm going to sentence 287 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: you to five years in the Florida State Prison. Five years. 288 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: Danielle is visibly shocked. Tears start rolling down her cheek. 289 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: You can actually hear her sob as she turns to 290 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: hug her attorney, Ms. Miller on may in this finding 291 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: because it's my opinion that this operation that took place 292 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: this day, with your prior history, is an extreme danger 293 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: to the community. And uh, and so that's why I 294 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: ruled the way I did. Yes, is it possible to 295 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: delay her entry so she can go back and pulls 296 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: up things in New York. I'm still on my um 297 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm still monitored and everything. I just need 298 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: to like pack up my apartment and stuff. Now you're 299 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna go into custody today, miss Miller. And here's the 300 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 1: reason why Danielle suddenly collapses and is quickly caught and 301 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: prought back up by the bailiff and her attorney. I 302 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: mean today was the sentencing day. This is something that 303 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: should have been contemplated. You can be transported to New York. Right, 304 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: you have thirty days to appeal the judgment and sentence 305 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: of the court. If you cannot afford an attorney for 306 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: that appeal, one will be appointing to represent you. The 307 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: bailiff then slaps the cuffs on Danielle and fingerprints her 308 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: right there in court, then leads her away to Florida 309 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: State Prison to serve her five year sentence. So I 310 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: feel like she would have been better off not giving 311 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: her statement at all. I agree a thousand percent. That's 312 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: Cole Saint Aubin, the local videographer we hired to record 313 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: both sentencing hearings for Queen of the con He was 314 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: in the courtroom watching it all unfold while I watched 315 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: it live from Los Angeles on zoom, and we texted 316 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: back and forth incessantly. My god, it was nail biting. 317 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: It was like almost six hours. Yeah, it was long, 318 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: and like that last hour felt like a mad dash. 319 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: The argument she made in the way she was talking 320 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: about it just sounded like a middle schooler that got 321 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: caught doing something they shouldn't be and then just finding 322 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 1: all the excuses at their disposal and denied, denied, denied. 323 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: Soon as she went on that can and she's like, Oh, 324 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: in all this work I'm doing and I'm a social 325 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: media influencer, I was just like, you suck your works 326 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: kind of person. Yeah. I knew when the judge started 327 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: with you know, although you've said I knew when he 328 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: said the word. Although I'm like, oh, she's fucked, Yeah, exactly, 329 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: that's the same thing I thought. As soon as she 330 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: got death talking and the judge you can just tell 331 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: his like he's like, I already know what I'm gonna do. Yeah, 332 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: you know what's so weird. It's just like relief washed 333 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: over me. I felt like it was I felt like 334 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: I was a victim, even though I'm not a victim. 335 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: I literally felt the exact same way hearing the verdict 336 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: that I felt when my con artist was convicted of 337 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: scamming me and the judge gave her a five year 338 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: sentence to just like relief just like washed over me. 339 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, thank god she didn't get away. Yeah, I 340 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: mean I can imagine because you hear like those arguments 341 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: that you can just tell like that they're not being 342 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: sincere or are very just trying to shift blame. There 343 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: were a few recesses throughout the nearly six hour proceeding 344 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: where Danielle and her attorney sat out in the hallway 345 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: waiting and our guy Cole st Aben sat across from them, 346 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: not intending to eavesdrop, but Danielle wasn't exactly trying to 347 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: keep quiet, and you could hear what they were saying. 348 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: What were they saying? I mean, it was the same 349 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: kind of excuses she made in court, like being a 350 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: lot more nonchalant with saying how her partner era like, oh, 351 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: that's all on her, like trying to like jump inside 352 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: to herself and to her defense, like that's on her. 353 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with that, And then was 354 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: like making fun of the detective way, like again like 355 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: the way a high school or would about superficial things 356 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: that I'm like, are you not grappling with the weight 357 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: of the people that you heard, or just the situation 358 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: in general, like the reality of it, because she was like, oh, 359 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: he called out me having a new suit for and 360 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: right after he said I stole money, And I was like, yeah, 361 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: she seemed cocky right in the hallway when you talk absolutely, yeah. Absolutely. 362 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: She was saying something about the probation or fines and 363 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, that's all this is gonna amount to, 364 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: like bring it on, Yeah, like she was treating Vince 365 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, but worstall was going to come out 366 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: of it was like more probation. Cole actually got to 367 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: the courtroom early that morning before danielle sentencing hearing even 368 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: began and saw that same judge preside over a couple 369 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: other sentencing hearings, but Judge he's definitely like a nice 370 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: guy for sure, at like in the other trials, I mean, 371 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: you can tell he's on the median side of things. 372 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: But when you go in there and you're so just 373 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: blatantly like dishonest, it seems like he had no tolerance 374 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: for it. A lot of the stuff leading up to it, 375 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: like it seemed like they were just plogging in circles. 376 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: Seemed like it was like a mixture of like just 377 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: can deny, deny, deny, like anything, like the phones aren't hers, 378 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: the profiles aren't hers. How can you prove that that 379 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: every chance they got, and then when that didn't work, 380 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: it would just be like trying to confuse everybody. Yeah, 381 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I think everyone 382 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: lost sight. At some point, they arrested her at the 383 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: bank with the I D. Trying to take the woman's money, 384 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: like that happened, you know, she got cost she went 385 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: to get like her attorneys like, well, we don't know 386 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: if that's hers or that's her phone. Really it's in 387 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 1: her fucking car, Like whose phone is that? It seems 388 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: like if they would have been able to, they totally 389 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: would have tried to pin it on Sierra and make 390 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: it look like Danielle just kind of wrapped up in 391 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: a bad situation after all of these friars and estuary 392 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: of doing this. The one thing though, that I don't 393 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: understand about what went down today is the fact that 394 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: there are two charges in sarah Sota against Danielle. A 395 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: third degree felony for fraudulently using Erica Beer's I D 396 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: which she pled no contest to today and got a 397 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: five year prison sentence, and a first degree felony for 398 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: fraudulently using the ideas of twenty to thirty people, which 399 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: is set for trial. In my experience, when someone takes 400 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: a plead, it's to resolve the whole case against them 401 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 1: and not leave any open charges. Dankling, Why would her 402 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: attorney have her plead to one charge and then go 403 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: to trial over the other. She actually has two separate cases. 404 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: This is not one case where she's got some counts 405 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: on one case. These are two separate cases. That's Maria Schneider, 406 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: a former Florida prosecutor with almost three decades in the 407 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: State Attorney's office. So you were prosecuted for twenty eight 408 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: and a half years. You don't look that old. Well, 409 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: thank you and get this, her daughter just turned forty. 410 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean you look, honestly, swear to god, you look 411 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: in or early forties. Oh that's so sweet, Thank you. 412 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: I would never imagine you have a kid whose forty. Well, 413 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: I'm not even being polite. What the hell are you 414 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: doing with your skin? Like? What's your secret? I'm cuban 415 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: starts skin, you know today. Maria Schneider is a sought 416 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: after attorney at the South Florida law firm Torres Victor, 417 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: but for most of her career, I was a prosecutor 418 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: with the Broward County States Attorney's Office. Florida is divided 419 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: into twenty judicial circuits, and every judicial circuit has its 420 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: own state attorney, where the equivalent of a d E. 421 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: Sistrict attorneys is the same thing. I tracked Maria down 422 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: because I wanted her to look at Danielle's sarah Sota 423 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: case for us. And even though I've always thought of 424 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: it as one case, because Danielle was busted at that 425 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: Chase Bank in sarah Sota and ultimately charged with two 426 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: felonies stemming from that one arrest, Maria says it's actually 427 00:26:54,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: two cases. One case is for her attempt to basically 428 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: steal money from the bank that belonged to one particular 429 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: person and then the other is although they're discovered at 430 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: the same time, it's a secret offense, and it's the 431 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: possession of all these identifying information from other individuals views 432 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: for the same purposes. And it definitely plays into the 433 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: strategy Daniel's lawyer might have had in mind to have 434 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: her plead no contest to the third degree felony and 435 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: choose to go to trial on that first degree felony 436 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: for fraudulently using the ideas of between twenty and thirty people. 437 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: I've only been investigating con artists and going to a 438 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: lot of trials and hearings of different courts for the 439 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: past four years, and I've never seen a case where 440 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: like this one, Like Daniel Miller, she kind of half 441 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: pleads right, they have two charges against her, so she 442 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: pled no contest to the third degree and she's letting 443 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: the first degree go to trial. One possibility is that 444 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: prosecutors have to bring in life witnesses. Anything that's set 445 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: on a court is hearsay. It's not admissible in court. 446 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: Civil cases, you can read certain things into the record, 447 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: not in criminal cases. In Florida. If you don't have 448 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: people testifying, it's like the crime didn't happen, and a 449 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: prosecutor is going to have to bring in at least 450 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: twenty victims. It ain't easy to bring in one victim. 451 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes it is extremely unlikely that they'll be able to 452 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: bring in twenty victims. That's a significant number of people, 453 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: especially people who already know that you know their identities. 454 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: You know, they've taken steps to secure their identities. Maybe 455 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: nothing had been taken from them yet, you know, it's 456 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: just the information that she had. But it's very difficult 457 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: to convince people, you know, to give up of their 458 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: time and fly in here to testify, you know, especially 459 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: if they work really actually aren't you know. You think 460 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: her attorney advised her this may never go to trial 461 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: because the burden is so great on prosecutors to fly 462 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: in twenty witnesses. Yeah, and the majority of all these 463 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: victims are from all over the country because it's it's 464 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: a data breach. So it's it's smart, it's good lawyering. 465 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: She's saying, essentially, she's daring them, I dare you to 466 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: take this to try to pull this together. Yeah, Now, 467 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: authorities in Sarah Sota tell me they're more determined than 468 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: ever to take this to trial, but it might take 469 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: some time to pull it off successfully. And according to Maria, 470 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: that gives Danielle the upper hand. Delay only helps the accused. 471 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: Delay with very few exceptions. And I have to say 472 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: very few exceptions, because obviously we know that science improves, 473 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: and recently, in the last case that I tried, it 474 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: helped a little bit because we actually were able to 475 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: pull d N A that we weren't able to pull 476 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: when the crime first happened. So barring something like that happening, 477 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: delay only helps the accused. People losing for is people die, 478 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: people forget, people move away. You know. The other thing 479 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm wondering about is something Danielle's attorney told the judge 480 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: during the sentencing hearing while making his case for probation. 481 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: If you recall, he said, she has helped the federal 482 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: government in Miami with information about this scheme of this calm. 483 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: That to me sounds like she's working with the fetes 484 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: in that COVID cash scam case and helping them with 485 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: their investigation. Maybe the fetes were going to enter into 486 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: some kind of a deal with her and she was 487 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: going to cooperate with them. She was either gonna, you know, testify, 488 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: I guess other people or give them information about how 489 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: other people do things or have been doing things. And 490 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: now she won't do that because she's pissed she's in jail. 491 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, well, I'm going to do five years, 492 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: so why should I help you? Vis Annie and f 493 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: Y I. If Danielle goes to trial in sarah Sota 494 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: on that first degree felony and loses, she could be 495 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: in prison for a really long time. If you're charged 496 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: with a first degree felony, the maximum penalty is thirty 497 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: years in person. So now that Danielle's locked away for 498 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future and she could be looking at even 499 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: more time behind bars when her remaining criminal cases conclude, 500 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: it feels like her incarceration is emboldening her victims to 501 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: finally come forward and talk to me, victims who knew 502 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: her from her haughty horse man days on the Upper 503 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: East Side of New York, whereas rich, rebellious teens with 504 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: no adult supervision, Danielle and her peers had free reign 505 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: of the city, saying we're going home to meet one 506 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: of our curfews, and we passed a group of kids 507 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: on a corner escaping their curfew, having their last cigarettes, 508 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: and the girls sent that saniel Miller, that girl in 509 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: the purple, and she rolled down the window and she 510 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: all that swept for a girl, and Danielle turned around 511 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: and he was the finger or waved, I can't remember, 512 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: but she acknowledged that she had heard it. That was 513 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: my first introduction to her. But quentin As may Brown 514 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: would go on to form a close and abiding friendship 515 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: with Danielle until some really bizarre stuff started happening. It 516 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: was very intoxicated. I was already asleep and probably like 517 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: the room was spinning, and I woke up and Danielle 518 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: was standing over me. She is dangerous. Next time on 519 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: Queen of the Con I said, maybe I had a seizure, 520 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: and she said, I totally got it about clopsy And 521 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: I said, it just sucks because I really want to shower, 522 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: but I'm very nervous that I'm gonna have a seizure. 523 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: And back into her early twenties, Danielle fakes serious illness 524 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: to brazenly scam her super wealthy childhood friend, and so 525 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: she said, let me come over going my lunch break 526 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: you shower. I'll eat lunch here and my desk is 527 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: off behind the view of the shower. And when Danielle's 528 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: father finds out what she did, his reaction is unusual, 529 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: and her father, he's sort of kind of like asked 530 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: my mom to help him punish her. If you're enjoying 531 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: Queen of the Con, clicks, share and send it to 532 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: your friends and family. Also leave us a five star review. 533 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: Reviews increased the odds that other listeners like you will 534 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: find us. Queen of the Con. 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