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Speaker 3: Here we go with another edition of mixed Shots here
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Speaker 4: One thing week.
Speaker 3: Actually, two things we can count on usually here in Auxnard, California,
Speaker 3: for Cowboys training camp is the sun will be out
Speaker 3: and field blower will be rolling on the morning. Mickey Spagnola,
Speaker 3: Savannah Humo, it's a half a staff here on this
Speaker 3: twenty eighth day in training camp, if you can believe that.
Speaker 3: And for you, young lady, how many more?
Speaker 5: I think I am a little over five weeks past
Speaker 5: the marker here, so's it's been a good thirty five
Speaker 5: something days for me here in Oxnard.
Speaker 3: Well, it's another Chamber of commerce day here in Oxnard,
Speaker 3: sixty five degrees. I don't think there's been a cloud
Speaker 3: out in two days, because yesterday was perfectly blue skies,
Speaker 3: and I bet it was a heck.
Speaker 4: Of a sunset. I know.
Speaker 3: Our team photographer James Smith was headed to the ocean
Speaker 3: last night to get sunset pictures with his professional camera.
Speaker 4: So I can't wait to see what he got.
Speaker 3: But Savannah and I Nate Newton went back home. He
Speaker 3: wasn't going to the game. He didn't have any function there.
Speaker 3: Said he was coming back, but there's no way he
Speaker 3: was going to drive back and forth another time, right,
Speaker 3: and Bill Jones went back after the game after he
Speaker 3: did the game against the Chargers of twenty seven to
Speaker 3: twelve Cowboy Raiders. Excuse me, Savannah looked at me like
Speaker 3: I was goofy and I was against the Raiders in
Speaker 3: Vegas on Saturday. And he went back home after he
Speaker 3: did the game and the pregame show. So it's just
Speaker 3: us too young, lady.
Speaker 6: I know the guys have been busy.
Speaker 5: And you know what, the one person that we have
Speaker 5: not talked about here at training camp. We have not
Speaker 5: gave a nice shout out to Everson Walls back at home.
Speaker 6: We missed you ever since.
Speaker 3: And I talked to him the other day. He called
Speaker 3: and goes, well, what's.
Speaker 4: Up, and I go, well, we're coming home.
Speaker 3: But this is our last migshots here from training camp.
Speaker 3: We'll have a Cowboy practice today at three, three point fifteen.
Speaker 5: It's a yeah, mock mock game, mock game close practice
Speaker 5: that you know, team we'll kind of.
Speaker 3: Use to do as a walk through time and then
Speaker 3: and then Mike McCarthy's press conference today on Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: dot Com is scheduled for around three forty five. But
Speaker 3: if they're doing a mock.
Speaker 4: Game at three point fifteen, I bet they stretch it
Speaker 4: out more than thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: Right, So it's an abbreviated day here in Oxnard. But
Speaker 3: we certainly got a lot to talk about. As I mentioned,
Speaker 3: the Cowboys went to Vegas beat the Raiders twenty seven
Speaker 3: to twelve. I thought it was a nice performance by
Speaker 3: the Cowboys since that majority of the first half, the
Speaker 3: Raiders played their starters. The Cowboys basically had their backups
Speaker 3: in for the entire game short of a couple guys.
Speaker 3: Tyler Geyton, who will be the starting left tackle, played
Speaker 3: in the first quarter, Cooper Bbe played in the first quarter,
Speaker 3: and Jayleen Tolbert I think got like nine snaps from
Speaker 3: a starters. On offense, that basically was it, and defensively,
Speaker 3: it was your backups. So I thought it was a
Speaker 3: nice performance after a tough travel day for the Cowboys
Speaker 3: on Friday to get to Vegas.
Speaker 4: But again, these guys.
Speaker 3: Are playing the majority of them for their football lives
Speaker 3: to make this fifty three man roster. The cut doesn't
Speaker 3: take place until August twenty seventh. I believe it is
Speaker 3: Today's the nineteenth.
Speaker 6: Today is the nineteenth.
Speaker 3: Yes, so it's coming. It's right around the corner and
Speaker 3: it'll be after the AS preseason game. So what were
Speaker 3: your impressions. I know you had to watch it on TV,
Speaker 3: but I know you watched it.
Speaker 4: What did you think?
Speaker 5: You know, I have two guys that I want to
Speaker 5: talk about to start this off, and a first one
Speaker 5: is on defense Andrew Booth Junior. I could not keep
Speaker 5: my eyes off him. Seven tackles in the game. He
Speaker 5: was just everywhere on defense and that was one thing
Speaker 5: that I really, you know noticed. I like that, you know,
Speaker 5: he's recent to the team and they put him in,
Speaker 5: you know, right into the game and he was making plays.
Speaker 6: And what was interesting is I was watching.
Speaker 5: The game with with some people and my dad, who
Speaker 5: he follows the Vikings very heavily, and he said, you know,
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot more playing time that this
Speaker 5: guy is seeing Booth specifically right now in this preseason
Speaker 5: game than he did a lot with the Vikings.
Speaker 3: And well, one other reason you saw so much of
Speaker 3: I mean ended up playing forty five snaps. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: he the Cowboy. He's traded Nashaun Wright to the Vikings.
Speaker 3: The Cowboys in return got Andrew Booth.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: One of the reasons he made so many tackles though,
Speaker 3: is because his guy was getting receptions. So that that
Speaker 3: fourth and fifth cornerback position is wide open. We know
Speaker 3: the top three, right. Trayvon Diggs finally got into team
Speaker 3: with Pads on last week Deron Bland Jordan Lewis, and
Speaker 3: they had been using Nashaun Wright as the replacement for
Speaker 3: Diggs with the first team early, well all through trading
Speaker 3: cap until Diggs got back in and they figured, you
Speaker 3: know what, it doesn't look like this guy is gonna
Speaker 3: make the team. The Vikings decided, hey, it looks like
Speaker 3: Booth is not going to make the team.
Speaker 4: A second round draft.
Speaker 3: Choice, by the way, and uh uh so they they
Speaker 3: flip guys and we'll see how it takes place. The
Speaker 3: other corner obviously that stood out was Cayman Hall, former
Speaker 3: North Texas football player.
Speaker 4: How about that Mean Green. Did you even know he's there?
Speaker 6: I did. I did.
Speaker 5: He's he's great And I loved watching that pick six.
Speaker 3: From him sixty nine yards I believe it was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, run it back for the touchdown.
Speaker 5: He was he was incredible, And uh, it's it's things
Speaker 5: like that were I appreciate seeing these, you know, kind
Speaker 5: of second string guys that are stepping up into these
Speaker 5: areas to make those plays. I mean, Eric Scott did
Speaker 5: it in the first preseason game as well, So I
Speaker 5: love seeing that from these guys.
Speaker 6: What did you think of him?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and Hall ended up playing fifty six snaps good
Speaker 3: basically the entire game. Now, he's had some NFL experience.
Speaker 3: He played in eighteen games with the Chargers twenty twenty one, I.
Speaker 4: Believe it was.
Speaker 3: Over two seasons, got released by the forty nine Ers
Speaker 3: this year and the Cowboys picked him up on waivers.
Speaker 3: And the funny story about him after the game, he
Speaker 3: was asked, when's.
Speaker 4: The last time he had a pick six?
Speaker 3: And it was in twenty nineteen with the Mean Green
Speaker 3: against the Arkansas Razorbacks, and he picked off somebody named
Speaker 3: John Stevens Jones, Stephen Jones' son, Jerry Jones' grandson was
Speaker 3: playing quarterback for Arkansas when the Mean Green defeated Arkansas
Speaker 3: and he had a twenty I think it was a
Speaker 3: twenty one yard interception return a touchdown out of here.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 6: That is that's a full circle moment right there.
Speaker 5: You come back here to the Cowboys and you're in
Speaker 5: the you're with the family, under the family, and you
Speaker 5: pick the ball.
Speaker 6: I love you love to see that.
Speaker 3: Though he kind of sheepestly pointed out that was his
Speaker 3: last interception, and then somebody realized, oh wait a minute,
Speaker 3: that was against Arkansas and John Stevens Jones. So somebody
Speaker 3: asked him, do you think that's why they picked you
Speaker 3: up on waivers? And it's like, well, he had been
Speaker 3: here for a cup of coffee with the Cowboys in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty and then they waved him in training camp,
Speaker 3: so they kind of knew about them. So anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's two guys along with Eric Scott. You know, if
Speaker 3: they're going to keep five corners, there's probably two spots open.
Speaker 3: There's three guys that I think so far, actually four
Speaker 3: if Josh Butler has played quite a bit. So we'll
Speaker 3: see where that cornerback spot goes, what was your other
Speaker 3: impression from the game.
Speaker 5: You know, let's but let's start with our favorite, Brandon
Speaker 5: Aubrey with the sixty six yarder. Just also mindful new
Speaker 5: dad here has his baby last week, comes back here
Speaker 5: to training camp. I think he had only practiced one
Speaker 5: day and then it was time to head out to
Speaker 5: Vegas and kicks the sixty six yarder.
Speaker 6: He is just continually or continuously.
Speaker 5: So progressive in his game and how he did last season,
Speaker 5: and it just seems so rinse and repeat like last year.
Speaker 5: He just looked so comfortable out there. He knows what
Speaker 5: he's doing, and you know, we love seeing.
Speaker 4: That from him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So a sixty six yard field goal from Butler,
Speaker 3: I mean Butler from Brandon Aubrey. And the funny thing
Speaker 3: was is that's I don't think my column has been
Speaker 3: posted yet on Dallascowboys dot com, but I basically wrote
Speaker 3: it all about him and the funny thing that happened.
Speaker 4: In the game.
Speaker 3: We were doing the pregame show, and we're doing it
Speaker 3: towards the end of the Cowboys bench on the field,
Speaker 3: so it's an hour show before the game starts, and
Speaker 3: we're by the kicking net and I'm sitting there talking
Speaker 3: and I see this hat come kind of in my
Speaker 3: peripheral vision from the right right. Well, I looked and
Speaker 3: it was Brandon Aubrey's hat, and it dawned on me
Speaker 3: that we were in the midst of our second pregame
Speaker 3: show and I'm not sure his name had ever come
Speaker 3: up in either show. It's eight segments of the show,
Speaker 3: sixteen segments, and we never talked about Brandon Aubrey, which
Speaker 3: made me think back to last year that every week
Speaker 3: that was a topic to It.
Speaker 6: Was the topic to talk about nearly every week last week.
Speaker 3: Because they Cowboys had to find a kicker, and they
Speaker 3: decided last year on August seventh, they released Tristan Visk
Speaker 3: and basically said we're.
Speaker 4: Going to see if this kid can do the job.
Speaker 3: Twenty eight years old, had only kicked professionally, only kicked
Speaker 3: footballs for la perious two years with the Birmingham Stallions
Speaker 3: right high school college.
Speaker 4: He was a soccer player.
Speaker 3: We did, you know, the whole history thing, and he
Speaker 3: ends up proving that he can do the job. So
Speaker 3: last year we were rushing around during practices trying to
Speaker 3: chart every kick to see you know how many he
Speaker 3: would make and see if he can.
Speaker 4: Do the job well. This year, it's like, we go
Speaker 4: to watch.
Speaker 3: Him kick to see if he misses any After making
Speaker 3: thirty six of thirty eight last year and had an
Speaker 3: NFL record thirty five consecutive makes to start a career,
Speaker 3: didn't miss a kick until a field goal until the
Speaker 3: final game of the season, where one got blocked and
Speaker 3: one hit up the upright. But those were his only
Speaker 3: two misses, right, So it was like, well, we don't have.
Speaker 4: To pay attention to this guy. He's the kicker.
Speaker 3: And then probably the first time I think maybe he
Speaker 3: had to answer questions was when he left the game
Speaker 3: with four seconds to go against the Rams this preseason
Speaker 3: because he found out his wife was getting ready to
Speaker 3: have the baby the next day and he needed to
Speaker 3: get home, so he left the game early. And I think
Speaker 3: he pointed out he was leaving the stadium at like
Speaker 3: three p forty nine, got to the airport at five
Speaker 3: thirteen or something like that.
Speaker 4: He must have had an escort right yep, and.
Speaker 3: Ended up flying home for the birth of his baby son, Colton.
Speaker 3: And he said after he made the kick that the
Speaker 3: sixty six yarder that that was gonna be his son's
Speaker 3: first football. He's gonna give the football to him. But
Speaker 3: think about sixty six yards. The NFL record right now
Speaker 3: is justin Tucker Baltimore. He kicked a sixty six yard
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, but his bounced off the crossbar.
Speaker 4: And went in right.
Speaker 3: Prior to that, the longest field goal in a regular
Speaker 3: season game we're talking was Matt Prater in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4: He kicked sixty five yards, all right.
Speaker 3: And before that, the longest field goal had been sixty
Speaker 3: three yards, first by Tom Dempsey in nineteen seventy if
Speaker 3: you can believe that. So there's been six guys that
Speaker 3: have kicked a sixty three yarder. The first was Dempsey,
Speaker 3: the last was Brett maher or the Cowboys in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6: So he unofficially the record.
Speaker 3: So it was unofficially, and I tried searching to see
Speaker 3: if I could find an official preseason record.
Speaker 4: The only thing I saw that came up some guy
Speaker 4: named Ola Kimeron.
Speaker 3: He had a sixty five yarder in training in preseason,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't official. I just couldn't nail it down.
Speaker 3: But that was the only one I could find. So
Speaker 3: I did a strange thing yesterday. I was walking around
Speaker 3: late afternoon on the field and I said, I wonder
Speaker 3: how many steps it would take me for sixty six yards,
Speaker 3: and it took me eighty four steps.
Speaker 4: Eighty four eighty four.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't have a big stride, right, but that's how.
Speaker 4: That's how far sixty I mean, the ball was a
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 6: It's like it's out there.
Speaker 3: The ball's put down on the on the opposite forty
Speaker 3: six yard line, right right. And I don't know if
Speaker 3: anybody's ever gone out on the field and looked how
Speaker 3: skinny the width is between the two uprights from that
Speaker 3: far out right. And he nailed it and it wasn't
Speaker 3: like it just got there. To me, it would have
Speaker 3: been good from seventy because it hit the back wall.
Speaker 3: I mean it hit the wall of the stands, the
Speaker 3: first row of the of the stands where the fans
Speaker 3: are sitting, and so that's got to be, you know,
Speaker 3: another four or five yards beyond where the goal posts are.
Speaker 3: But think about this, when Tom Dempsey hit his kick,
Speaker 3: that was back when the goal posts were on the
Speaker 3: goal line. It wasn't on the back line right, So
Speaker 3: his ball was placed down on.
Speaker 4: The thirty seven yard line for.
Speaker 3: His sixty three yard field goal and just in a
Speaker 3: side And that part of my story I was writing
Speaker 3: about is back nineteen seventy when he made the kick.
Speaker 3: The newspaper guys that covered the team, the newspaper reporters
Speaker 3: used to fly on the Cowboys charter to the way games.
Speaker 3: So they're on the flight coming back from New York
Speaker 3: and word got out that Dempsey hit a sixty three
Speaker 3: yard field goal because the previous NFL record was fifty
Speaker 3: six and work.
Speaker 6: That's by yeah a few yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, So it got out that he hit a sixty
Speaker 3: three yard field goal. And the backstory on Tom Dempsey
Speaker 3: is he was born without any toes on his right
Speaker 3: foot or any fingers on his right hand. So he
Speaker 3: had a modified shoe that he had to kick with
Speaker 3: right because back then they're kicking straight on. There was
Speaker 3: no soccer style kicking. And his shoe had a flattened
Speaker 3: front that was rectanglear, so it was like he had
Speaker 3: a kicking shoe on right.
Speaker 4: He wasn't using, obviously his foot his toes because he
Speaker 4: didn't have any.
Speaker 3: So the writers went up to the front of the
Speaker 3: plane to ask Texts Shram, the Cowboys president GM for
Speaker 3: twenty nine years, what he thought of Dempsey's kick, and
Speaker 3: he said, well, he had an unfair advantage, meaning his
Speaker 3: shoe that he was using, right, And so word got
Speaker 3: out to the PR department what Tex said, and they
Speaker 3: went up to him and said, text, do you really
Speaker 3: want to say a guy with no toes that somewhat
Speaker 3: handicap had an unfair advantage?
Speaker 4: That text goes he still did. Yes.
Speaker 3: Well, the next day he got lit up. Oh, I'm
Speaker 3: sure the feedback and he finally apologized.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the backstory on this whole thing is by nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy seven, the NFL passed a rule that anybody kicking
Speaker 3: a football had to use a normal kicking shoe. You
Speaker 3: couldn't have an altered, flattened front of the ball.
Speaker 4: So once again Tex was seven years ahead of.
Speaker 3: His time, right, But that was sixty to sixty three yarder.
Speaker 3: That was the funny story behind that.
Speaker 6: So interesting.
Speaker 3: We got off to a kicking start here on mix
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Speaker 6: Let's absolutely take some phone calls.
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Speaker 5: Mickey and I some questions from this last preseason game.
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Speaker 5: To quickly chat about Stefan Gilmour, who is now headed
Speaker 5: to the Vikings. Right that news obviously broke yesterday morning.
Speaker 5: He will be signing with the Minnesota Vikings. But you know,
Speaker 5: outstanding season here with the Cowboys. Wish him all the
Speaker 5: best in Minnesota, And you know, I think that's a
Speaker 5: really great spot for him.
Speaker 3: And I think it was a lot more from what
Speaker 3: I heard than.
Speaker 4: What the Cowboys. Yeah, that's too loud.
Speaker 3: What the Cowboys could pay him, I believe he ended
Speaker 3: up with a seven million dollar base salary with the
Speaker 3: ability to make nine, so he waited it out, and
Speaker 3: obviously Minnesota trading Booth and I don't know that Nashan
Speaker 3: Wright made a big impression on him. So they signed
Speaker 3: a veteran guy to help out. But yeah, and I
Speaker 3: think the Cowboys realized that what he was looking for
Speaker 3: they couldn't afford. Yeah, And so their concern last week
Speaker 3: was on the defensive line, and they made two moves
Speaker 3: to try to get some at least experience there. They
Speaker 3: did sign veteran Jordan Phillips, who's been around the league
Speaker 3: for quite some time. He was with had been with
Speaker 3: the Giants. I said, they signed him. They traded for
Speaker 3: him a couple future draft choices. But the big thing
Speaker 3: with Jordan Phillips, and it is big by the way,
Speaker 3: he is six six three forty one and he's a
Speaker 3: nose tackle. So they needed some balk, not only bulk
Speaker 3: in the middle along with Mozzy Smith and we'll get
Speaker 3: to that in a minute, but also some experience there
Speaker 3: because behind Mozzy was just a bunch of young guys.
Speaker 3: So they made that trade and then I think officially
Speaker 3: they will get signed Carl Lawson, defensive end veteran guys
Speaker 3: been in the league for seven years and uh, just
Speaker 3: knowing that they needed some more. Uh. With Sam Williams
Speaker 3: out now on injured reserve having torn his acl early
Speaker 3: in camp, they just didn't have a lot of experience
Speaker 3: there besides DeMarcus Lawrence. And then you know, while they
Speaker 3: can play Micah Parsons at defensive end, he's not going
Speaker 3: to be out there for sixty snaps a game. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: so they needed somebody. So they got lost and who
Speaker 3: had worked out for him previously?
Speaker 4: It didn't work out.
Speaker 3: I think, Uh, they finally agreed on a number and
Speaker 3: brought him in.
Speaker 4: So, Chris, do we think we have him? Let's see
Speaker 4: you try about now. Guys, Hey, we got you. Thanks
Speaker 4: for being patient with us.
Speaker 2: No worries.
Speaker 12: Well, I'm mad because you stole my you stole my topic,
Speaker 12: But that's okay. I'll ask a different question. But I
Speaker 12: was thinking the same thing that kicker is just a
Speaker 12: non issue this year and last year. I was watching
Speaker 12: the break in an errant kick sailed right over the
Speaker 12: crew's head, and I thought, what a difference this year
Speaker 12: that we just don't have any questions in that area.
Speaker 12: So my question though, for this year, is going to be.
Speaker 12: You know, I think that we have too many running
Speaker 12: backs that are kind of similar skill sets, similar body types,
Speaker 12: And I was wondering if you guys think that gives
Speaker 12: Deuce a little bit of an advantage because all the
Speaker 12: other guys are kind of bigger, stronger, you know, kind
Speaker 12: of that same build, and he's the odd he's the
Speaker 12: odd one out. He's kind of a different, more more scatback, smallish,
Speaker 12: you know, quicker guy. So with that, I'll hang up
Speaker 12: and listen. Thanks.
Speaker 3: Great, that's a great question to start things off because
Speaker 3: he's got a great point there. So you can look
Speaker 3: at the running back position like this. Obviously, Ezekiel ellitt
Speaker 3: and makes the team. The fact that they didn't even
Speaker 3: put Rico Dondell out there in the Raiders game.
Speaker 4: He's on the team.
Speaker 3: Hunter Lepke will be on the team as the full back,
Speaker 3: and as we talked to Mike McCarthy on the pregame show,
Speaker 3: he likes full backs and Lipke can help him as
Speaker 3: a true fill back. He can help him as a
Speaker 3: like an h back, and he also can help him
Speaker 3: as a one back in some of their one back offenses.
Speaker 4: So he's on the team.
Speaker 3: That's three so I think the fourth spot is wide
Speaker 3: open and somebody would have to convince him to keep
Speaker 3: five running backs, which would be a lot. I think
Speaker 3: Malik Davis and Royce Freeman have each had their moments
Speaker 3: in training camp, and then Deuce finally shows up in
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 4: I believe he ended up with what yards yeah average.
Speaker 3: And he had missed a full week of training camp
Speaker 3: prior with a hamstring strain, so he kind of really
Speaker 3: got behind the eight ball, got his opportunity late last week,
Speaker 3: and then got in the game against the Raiders. And
Speaker 3: I think Brian's right. He's a different type of running back.
Speaker 3: Obviously he's smaller, we know that, but he showed in
Speaker 3: the game his quickness, his ability to change directions in
Speaker 3: a moment, and he had a couple runs like that
Speaker 3: in the game, and it's like, oh, that's the deuced
Speaker 3: that they drafted.
Speaker 4: That's the guy they were looking for.
Speaker 3: Now it's a matter of you know, what these guys
Speaker 3: can help on special teams because last year the games
Speaker 3: usually that he was inactive, they.
Speaker 4: Just looked at it. It goes, well, what else can
Speaker 4: he do for us?
Speaker 3: Because other running backs could go down and cover punts, kickoffs,
Speaker 3: but this year with the kickoff rule, chain means the
Speaker 3: coverages that you need a different type of player, right absolutely,
Speaker 3: So I think he's got an opportunity now he's got
Speaker 3: one more preseason game to kind of prove what he
Speaker 3: can do.
Speaker 4: But again, I think Brian's right.
Speaker 3: So I think it comes down to three guys basically,
Speaker 3: if they're going to keep for Deuce, Royce Freeman, the veteran,
Speaker 3: and the Lake Davis, who I thought had a nice
Speaker 3: week of practice last week.
Speaker 5: I do want to mention one thing that I had
Speaker 5: looked up prior to the show today. So when it
Speaker 5: comes to this new kickoff role and these returners right now,
Speaker 5: last week, after the first week of preseason, it was
Speaker 5: an eighty percent return rate.
Speaker 6: Last year twenty two percent. That's a huge difference.
Speaker 5: So I think that you're going to see so much
Speaker 5: more returns coming into this season because of the new
Speaker 5: kickoff role. And this is where an area where you
Speaker 5: can see multiple different guys. Duce Vahan might be one
Speaker 5: of those guys. You saw these explosiveness plays from him
Speaker 5: in the run game.
Speaker 6: I want to see also what he can do as
Speaker 6: a returner.
Speaker 5: So that's one thing I kind of want to see
Speaker 5: if they're going to utilize him in any way in
Speaker 5: that area as well.
Speaker 3: This last game they were using primarily Malik Davis and
Speaker 3: t Billy Johnson, So there's different ways they can do that.
Speaker 3: Because if you think you can anticipate where the kickers
Speaker 3: kicking the ball left or right, whatever, you can kind
Speaker 3: of put your formation that way. Your top returner, which
Speaker 3: we're assuming is Cavante Turpin, and the second guy can
Speaker 3: be more of a blocking guy. You could have an
Speaker 3: extra blocker, so you could put a bigger running back
Speaker 3: back right to ability to return, but also the ability
Speaker 3: to get you an extra blocker. So it'd be interesting
Speaker 3: to see how that works out. Do we have another phone?
Speaker 6: We do? We do in Weatherford, Texas. How are you today, Larry.
Speaker 14: I'm doing fine.
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 14: Well, I appreciate it. I got a question that's bothered
Speaker 14: me for quite some time. You know, the team can't
Speaker 14: seem to resign back or CD or they're worried about
Speaker 14: about the defensive end slash linebackers. Yes, and I'm wondering
Speaker 14: why do the players and make up the NFL Players
Speaker 14: Association approve the agreement that they have with the owners.
Speaker 14: Given the fact that the more these three or so
Speaker 14: skilled players that you have on each team make the
Speaker 14: less each one of those other players that are make
Speaker 14: up the line share of the teams in the league,
Speaker 14: why would they agree to that? Looks to me like
Speaker 14: it would more sense to say, Okay, the top three
Speaker 14: uh highest earners can't uh the sign up for any
Speaker 14: more than x percent of a cap, and that would
Speaker 14: so you say, shall we say share, spread the spread
Speaker 14: the wealth around to the to all the players.
Speaker 3: You know, that's a great question, and appreciate it. But uh,
Speaker 3: the nfl PA when they do the CBA, UH, they're
Speaker 3: just basically looking out for trying to get the biggest contracts.
Speaker 4: They can for their players.
Speaker 3: And they understand, Uh, that's life, right, I mean, that's
Speaker 3: the business world out there. Uh. And the business world
Speaker 3: only has if they do a self imposed salary cap.
Speaker 3: There is a salary cap in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Uh. And your your your thought is is really good.
Speaker 3: And I've seen some discussion people thinking that they should
Speaker 3: allow the quarterbacks to make what they can make and
Speaker 3: not count against the salary cap, like give a one
Speaker 3: person kind of freebie against the cap.
Speaker 4: But again, in.
Speaker 3: This free world, you kind of make what you can,
Speaker 3: and I don't think that they would, you know, do
Speaker 3: that and say, well, these three guys can only have
Speaker 3: this percentage.
Speaker 6: Of the cap out right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a good thought. And I kind of
Speaker 3: like the idea of having an exclusion of the quarterback
Speaker 3: because we know what quarterbacks are making and that percentage
Speaker 3: of the cap is way out of whack with all
Speaker 3: basically the other players. So, you know, Jerry was asked
Speaker 3: a question about CD. He still seems confident they'll get
Speaker 3: him in. I am always confident that these things get
Speaker 3: done before the first game of the season. No one's
Speaker 3: gonna He's under contract, so that's what everybody understands, got
Speaker 3: to understand. And he's scheduled to make one million dollars
Speaker 3: a week for eighteen weeks. So it's a guaranteed seventeen
Speaker 3: point nine to nine million dollar deal that he has.
Speaker 4: And I don't know that which is a current contract.
Speaker 5: We have to remind everybody that he is still on
Speaker 5: a contract right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, if there's many red blooded Americans out there
Speaker 3: that would give up one million dollars a week for
Speaker 3: a cause, So we'll we'll kind of keep monitoring that
Speaker 3: and see where that goes, and we probably need to
Speaker 3: take a break. We appreciate the calls. It's just me
Speaker 3: and old Savannah here.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 6: We'll have one when we get back. We have a
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Speaker 3: and I want to preface this with that this guy
Speaker 3: has been listening to our podcast. It seems like forever
Speaker 3: first on Talking cow on Talking Cowboys. Uh, and I'm
Speaker 3: glad to hear he's still listening to me on mix shots.
Speaker 3: It's Nebby from Silver Springs, Maryland. Nebbie, how the heck
Speaker 3: are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing well and Mickey, I gotta tell you, it's
Speaker 2: great uh to talk.
Speaker 13: To you again, my man, it's been years.
Speaker 15: And Savannah, it's a pleasure to talk.
Speaker 2: To you for the very first time.
Speaker 6: You uh uh.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I was wondering, uh, are you guys as excited about
Speaker 2: Cooper bb as I am?
Speaker 13: Because I really think he can help us out.
Speaker 2: Uh because based on what I've read about him, Uh,
Speaker 2: he can just mall uh uh whoever is uh across him?
Speaker 13: And what do you think are the chances that Cooper Bebe.
Speaker 15: Is our starting center when we play in Cleveland against
Speaker 15: the Browns in twenty days. I take care, Thank you
Speaker 15: so much for being patient with me, and have a
Speaker 15: great week.
Speaker 13: Bye.
Speaker 6: So much.
Speaker 3: Great to hear from Nebbe once again. As a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, a couple of times when we've gone to
Speaker 3: games when Cowboys are playing Washington, he has made the
Speaker 3: effort to come to the team hotel and visit with us,
Speaker 3: so taking pictures with Nebby and it's great to hear
Speaker 3: from him.
Speaker 4: Okay, Cooper, bb, let's do it.
Speaker 3: I think he's got a real chance to be the
Speaker 3: starting center. I think the competition is not over yet
Speaker 3: with brock Hoffman, but I think the Cowboys just like
Speaker 3: his strength at the center position, and as long as
Speaker 3: he can continue to show that he can command the
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, meaning making the calls for the blocking
Speaker 3: assignments to recognize what's going on, and the fact that
Speaker 3: he's got it seems the snaps down I think people
Speaker 3: have probably seen online.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was on.
Speaker 3: If it was on Twitter or x or whatever you
Speaker 3: want to call it, snapchat or whatever. It showed him
Speaker 3: snapping the ball Instagram.
Speaker 4: Is that what it was?
Speaker 6: Bill tweeted it, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, that he was snapping the ball to his mom
Speaker 3: in the backyard and he was snapping to who had
Speaker 3: every teammate during the rookie mini camp when they were
Speaker 3: staying at the hotel, he would go into the ballroom
Speaker 3: and he had a ball and he practiced his snaps,
Speaker 3: So I think he's played well. I think they think
Speaker 3: he's played well. He ended up with just twenty three
Speaker 3: snaps in the game, but started his first game, so
Speaker 3: I think there's a good chance. And Nebby's right. He
Speaker 3: said that you know, he thinks he's a maler, and
Speaker 3: he is. When they had him practicing with the first
Speaker 3: team this past week. I noticed that it was the
Speaker 3: scrimmage against the Rams, Yes, and he was at center
Speaker 3: and at he snapped the ball and he first went
Speaker 3: to his right to help out the guard take out
Speaker 3: the defensive tackle. He came off of that block and
Speaker 3: went and got the linebacker. And that's what I saw
Speaker 3: from him at K State that I was impressed with
Speaker 3: that he.
Speaker 4: Could get to the second level right.
Speaker 3: And if I remember when he did the interview after
Speaker 3: the draft, he said his favorite thing was to dirt people,
Speaker 3: meaning black guys can't put him in the dirt. Now,
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, if that's gonna happen in
Speaker 3: the end too many times, but he's active, so we'll
Speaker 3: see how it plays out. That's a good observation from Nebbe,
Speaker 3: who watches and listens and reads everything he can about
Speaker 3: the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Your impression of BB.
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting these first couple of weeks of
Speaker 5: training camp.
Speaker 6: You know, the conversation was really about brock.
Speaker 5: Kaufman and how he was taking all the snaps with
Speaker 5: the first team, and I really like seeing how they're
Speaker 5: finally utilizing Cooper Bebe.
Speaker 6: I think they're starting to see.
Speaker 5: What he has and the drive in him, and so
Speaker 5: seeing him as a starter out there. I feel like
Speaker 5: the conversation has now gone almost fifty to fifty. Like
Speaker 5: you said, the competition here between brock Hoffman and Cooper BB,
Speaker 5: it's not over.
Speaker 6: I think we still have a little bit of time
Speaker 6: left here during training camp.
Speaker 5: We have one more preseason game and then some practices
Speaker 5: next week as well, But the competition is.
Speaker 6: Very much open.
Speaker 5: I think brock Hoffman he has a little bit more experience,
Speaker 5: which is why I can see they may be a
Speaker 5: little bit more comfortable with him, but I think they're
Speaker 5: starting to see what Cooper Beb has and so I
Speaker 5: think it's everything for him to fight for at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one thing that has to be finalized yet,
Speaker 3: because it's still a competition. I thought it was kind
Speaker 3: of neat that Deuce when he was in the game.
Speaker 3: He remarked afterwards, he said he was in the huddle
Speaker 3: and he heards Bebee's voice and he goes, oh, it's
Speaker 3: like old times K State they played together, and he
Speaker 3: said it's been been a while since he'd been in
Speaker 3: the huddle with the Cooper Bebe.
Speaker 6: I have one.
Speaker 5: Added note that I actually saw, which I thought was
Speaker 5: amazing was the Bebee family have They've been going to
Speaker 5: the preseason games to watch Cooper and they ended up
Speaker 5: actually being with Deuce Vaughn's family at the game. So
Speaker 5: they all took a phote together and I'm like, look,
Speaker 5: it's all the K State.
Speaker 6: They're all there to support it.
Speaker 3: A Wildcat reunion here, right, and we're just about done him.
Speaker 3: But one other note with Tyler, Geiton did get the
Speaker 3: start at left tackle, so there's you know, the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be the starter. Believe me, he needed to
Speaker 3: be the starter, right with Chuma Doga going down. Earl
Speaker 3: Bostik was sort of, you know, a backup candidate. Well,
Speaker 3: those are two things that they've got to work out.
Speaker 3: So between Hoffman and bb they've got a starter, and
Speaker 3: they've got a swing guy that can play center and guard,
Speaker 3: so that's taken care of. One of the things they've
Speaker 3: got to find is a backup swing tackle now because
Speaker 3: there's not much experience behind Tyler Geiton. So they got
Speaker 3: to work that out and they'll probably keep their eye
Speaker 3: in the waiver wire. Thank you guys for calling helping
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Speaker 3: Appreciate your help and we'll see you guys again uh
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