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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, rolling into a Thursday. Here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and man, is it

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Speaker 2: a good day to be a duck around here? It

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Speaker 2: is coming down in buckets. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: It's so bad.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't had a lot of rain, but

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Speaker 2: holy cow, like it's gonna rain all day?

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Speaker 3: Is it gonna rain all day?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 2: Man, I supposed to taper off until late in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: That's supposed to come back tonight. So there's that storm

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Speaker 2: off the east coast, and it's big enough where it's

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Speaker 2: swirling up our way and we're getting a little edge

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Speaker 2: of it, not getting the brunt of it. Thankfully, clear

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Speaker 2: up on.

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Speaker 3: Sunday, clear up on Sunday here. I just I just

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Speaker 3: moved the desk that we're sitting at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on wheels, and Steve doesn't know his own strength.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you try to screech around in your chair,

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Speaker 3: you use your desk to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't do that here anyway. This desk is

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Speaker 2: not anchored.

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Speaker 3: Congrats to the Blue Jays last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can win it at home. Now three games

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Speaker 2: to two. I thought long and hard about this because

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Speaker 2: earlier this week, I think it was Jeremy on the

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Speaker 2: Morning Show when I was on with them Monday morning,

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Speaker 2: he asked me if I had a dog in the fight,

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Speaker 2: and I really don't because I'm a Yankees fan, so

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Speaker 2: I don't really have an affinity for the Blue Jays

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Speaker 2: and I can't stand the Dodgers. And so I thought

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Speaker 2: about it, and I thought, which team do I have

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Speaker 2: more deep seated hatred for? And I would have to

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Speaker 2: go with the Dodgers here, I would have to go

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Speaker 2: with the Dodgers. So, and I've always been an American

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Speaker 2: of the Blue Jays. Not that it will provide me

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Speaker 2: with any pleasure to see either of these teams hoist

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Speaker 2: the trophy, but they're there, so good for them. I

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Speaker 2: do think The cool thing is there's about seven Bisons

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Speaker 2: on that Blue Jays roster, so I guess that's that's

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Speaker 2: where my leanings will be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: As hard as it is to root for a division rival,

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Speaker 2: So that's fine. Good for them. Hopefully they can win

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Speaker 2: one more. And because the Dodgers certainly don't need another championship.

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Speaker 2: I think we can all agree on that.

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Speaker 3: Well, Yankees do though, right, I mean that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: Yankees fans, Yeah, okay, by birthright.

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Speaker 2: They are so, you know, like Cowboys fans. It is

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Speaker 2: what it is.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm muttering under my brain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know, I get at it. The Yankees

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Speaker 2: are not a team that people are the under They

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Speaker 2: are not the team you have middle ground on. You

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Speaker 2: either love the Yankees or you hate the Yankees. There

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Speaker 2: really is no in between, and the Dodgers are similar.

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Speaker 3: And then actually I have no I am. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: be more indifferent to the entire thing, and I or

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Speaker 3: get our people's skin like brownie once a while.

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Speaker 2: And that's easy to do. So here we are on

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Speaker 2: Thursday of game week, and there's some stuff happening both

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Speaker 2: on the field and off. I thought this was really cool, Steve.

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Speaker 2: The Bills announced today that they have signed a three

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Speaker 2: year agreement with Saint John Fisher University to continue as

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Speaker 2: their training camp host in lovely Pittsford, New York. The

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Speaker 2: agreement is going to run through twenty twenty eight. They

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Speaker 2: had been going year to year right pretty much since COVID.

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Speaker 3: It was always it was always a are they going

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Speaker 3: to keep coming home?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh? And the other go ahead, I was just

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Speaker 2: gonna say. And the other cool thing was wegg was

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Speaker 2: also announced as the presenting sponsor for Training Camp going forwards,

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Speaker 2: so we're excited about that as well. Our good friends

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Speaker 2: over at Wegmans, who help us with our tailgate tag along,

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Speaker 2: are now going to be helping the bills with training Camp.

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Speaker 2: People already help us at train.

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Speaker 3: People outside the organization always asking, oh, man, I wonder

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Speaker 3: how long they're gonna keep coming back because most teams don't.

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Speaker 3: It's like six or eight teams that it's.

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Speaker 2: A shrinking numbers shrinking.

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Speaker 3: But you and I both know, you know, we always

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Speaker 3: get head coaches in the media, general managers in the media.

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Speaker 3: going over there. Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean going away to

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Speaker 3: training camp, and of course Saint John Fisher is a

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Speaker 3: well oiled machine. Now they've got the facilities, everything.

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Speaker 2: Else and it's a small walkable campus, so they.

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Speaker 3: Really do and have in the past found a great

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Speaker 3: and this is proof of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So congrats to all parties involved, including Wegmans, who

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years brought lunch for us every day.

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Speaker 2: I think that's that's guaranteed to continue now they're the

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Speaker 2: presenting sponsor.

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Speaker 5: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: We will continue to be fans of Wegmans as long

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Speaker 3: as they feed us, right, that's that you're saying.

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Speaker 2: It has a small plays a small part in our

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Speaker 2: affinity for them on the field. The Bills Wednesday injury

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Speaker 2: report had some new names on it. Ray Davis was

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Speaker 2: a new non participant due to illness, also not practicing,

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Speaker 2: where Daikwon Jones and Joshua Palmer, who both missed last

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Speaker 2: week's game with injuries. As we know. Limited in practice

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Speaker 2: yesterday were linebacker Shack Toms with a hamstring kicker Matt

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Speaker 2: Bernard and Matt Mulano were full of go. So we'll

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Speaker 2: feel today. And I think if Palmer can get back,

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Speaker 2: that's a huge, huge victory for the Bills passing game

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Speaker 2: would be huge for Buffalo's offense. Legends of the game, Steve,

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Speaker 2: and I say legends as plural. There's more than one

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Speaker 2: for Sunday's battle with the Chiefs. A pair of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Jim Kelly and his predecessor, Joe Ferguson.

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Speaker 2: How about it. That's nice, friggy, pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: I Joe Ferguson was before my time in Buffalo. You

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Speaker 3: So I get to Buffalo in November of eighty six,

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Speaker 3: But I don't know little beanos to most people here

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Speaker 3: They said, well, you come in and catch some passes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, kidd, So I caught throws.

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Speaker 3: I caught the ball. Well, I did my best to

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Speaker 3: and that's where I that's my first meeting with him.

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Speaker 2: Third round pick, in the nineteen seventy three draft. Played

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Speaker 2: How about that talk about stacking your pension, I think

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Speaker 3: When they worked him out and they didn't talk to

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so cool Coolie back in town, Double feature

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Speaker 3: Bless his heart. Think about that two, those two guys

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Speaker 2: Well, they shared a jersey number. They both were well.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of the Bill's news and notes for today.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, when we get updates on today's

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Speaker 2: we'll begin with Chiefs news because for the Chiefs injury report,

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Speaker 2: running back Isaiah Pacheco has a sprained MCL, not expected

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Speaker 2: to play on Sunday. He did not practice, along with

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Speaker 2: get any news on them during our show. Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 2: Eagles have two really good young corners in Quinnon Mitchell

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Speaker 2: third corner that they like. They've tried to Dori Jackson

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Speaker 2: one of their draft choices, Keeley Ringo, and the results

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Speaker 3: Cooper de Jean was drafted at as a safety right.

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Speaker 3: What you got for us?

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Speaker 8: Hi, guys listen to your show almost every day.

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Speaker 8: I think the Bills are going to do it. I

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Speaker 8: community and everything. But the biggest shot for the community

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Speaker 8: would to be bring that training camp here and let

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Speaker 8: businesses grow around that, and they would be a super gift.

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Speaker 8: And I think, you know, the the ownership is away

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Speaker 8: from here. They don't live here all the time. The

440
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Speaker 8: players don't live here all the time, and it's not

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Speaker 8: their fault that maybe they don't understand that and what

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Speaker 8: they would mean. But I mean to take it off

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Speaker 8: to Pittsford's a beautiful town once again, probably one of

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Speaker 8: our richest towns in the state. Doesn't really do much

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Speaker 8: for the Buffalo Bills. And so anyway, that was my

446
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Speaker 8: main point that I would love to have them reconsider

447
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Speaker 8: and do that. I don't have the answers to where

448
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Speaker 8: it would go. I'd love to be on the committee.

449
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Speaker 8: I know this area very well, but you know, I

450
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Speaker 8: would probably take take some thought. But we could do it,

451
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Speaker 8: We really could. But that's what I had to say,

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Speaker 8: all right, well if.

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Speaker 3: They bring it, if they bring training camp back to Buffalo,

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Speaker 3: they're going to have it right to the stadium. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's they've got the facility. That's why people are surprised

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Speaker 3: or or at least skeptical of why they went to

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Speaker 3: Saint John Fisher, because they have the facilities here to

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Speaker 3: do training camp right at home. So that's you know,

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Speaker 3: that's where it would be if they brought it back here.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to go four miles away to wherever

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Speaker 3: like UB or whatever that They're not going to do that.

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Speaker 2: So and UB is doing their own training camp over

463
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Speaker 2: there come early August, right, so they got their own

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Speaker 2: football team to get ready.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah over there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think, you know, coach McDermott and Brandon

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Speaker 2: Bean have expressed time and time and time again that

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Speaker 2: there's value in the team bonding by doing nothing but

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Speaker 2: football twenty four to seven for about two and a

470
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Speaker 2: half weeks, you know, where it's they're just with each

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Speaker 2: other all hours of the day and they feel that

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Speaker 2: really galvanizes their football team. And you know, Fisher knows

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Speaker 2: how to do it right. So it's another three years

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Speaker 2: out there, and look, the initial The initial reason they

475
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Speaker 2: went out there was to help regionalize this franchise and

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Speaker 2: expose it to other areas of Western New York. You know,

477
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Speaker 2: like back then, fifteen percent of the season ticket base

478
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Speaker 2: came from Rochester and it was kind of trying to

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Speaker 2: grow that, you know, and even maybe a little Central

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Speaker 2: New York. And it has grown since training camp has

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Speaker 2: gone out there, so you know, there's there's a business

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Speaker 2: element to it as well. So it's another three years,

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Speaker 2: runs through twenty twenty eight. Let's go to Kevin and

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Speaker 2: Hamburg here quickly before the break. What's up, Kevin?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, how you doing. I got the headlines for

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Speaker 9: you ready? Oh yeah, Chiefs rocking success, ROCKI n pastrophe comes.

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Speaker 8: To halt in wny.

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Speaker 2: Okay mean Western New York.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm with you, Keith, rocking success. It doesn't really

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Speaker 9: matter how bish rocking. Then comes the hall drastic halt.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good stuff, thanks Kevin.

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Speaker 2: All right, somebody name him editor, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: We do have to take a break because we're up

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Speaker 2: against the clock, but we will take more of your

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Speaker 2: phone calls here. On a Thursday edition of One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live second hour of the show, we got the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer Thurman Thomas joining us, and we'll get some

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Speaker 2: players at the post practice podium answering questions from the

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Speaker 2: media in the final half hour of the show. Plenty

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Speaker 2: more coming your way, including your phone calls. Open lines

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Speaker 2: for you at eighth three oh five point fifty. We'll

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Speaker 2: catch you on the other side here on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: What's your Monday morning headline following Sunday's Chiefs Bills game?

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Speaker 2: You let us know it? Aight o three oh five

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Speaker 2: fifty and we are going to go right to the phones.

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Speaker 2: Here we go to Gary on a cell next, what's up, Gary?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how y all doing?

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Speaker 2: We're doing good.

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Speaker 6: I think the headlines give me three things. Defense dominates,

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Speaker 6: Allen looks great, and they tray for Shihid from the Saint.

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Speaker 2: Woo. That's a lot to cram into a headline there, Gary,

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Speaker 2: My goodness, people will be running around town with pomp

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Speaker 2: pomps if all of that happens. Holy cal thank you

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Speaker 2: for the call on that.

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Speaker 3: Rashid Shaheed is a name that everybody's just spouting off about. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and he's the.

517
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Speaker 2: Name, well, he's a field stretcher. We know that blazing speed,

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Speaker 2: but he's kind of a two for one player because

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Speaker 2: he could also potentially solve what has been an issue

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Speaker 2: in the return game. Buffalo is not getting hidden yards

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Speaker 2: in the return game, particularly on punt return, and that's

522
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Speaker 2: a guy that solved that issue as well. So that's

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Speaker 2: why I think he's been a popular name amongst Bills

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Speaker 2: Fans's see what happens. Let's move along to we got

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Speaker 2: here Jeff in Lancaster. What's up?

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Speaker 6: Jeff, Hey, guy's first time into the show. Start off

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Speaker 6: by saying, go Bills. Monday's headlines, I think is going

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Speaker 6: to be one word is going to be relaxed. I

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Speaker 6: have three things that I like to hear some feedback on,

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Speaker 6: and I think these are the priorities for the Bills

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Speaker 6: to have a successful game Sunday as well as the

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Speaker 6: rest of the season. Number One, on Sunday, above everything else,

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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes cannot be allowed to scramble. Buffalo has lost

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Speaker 6: the games against them because of his scrambling, not because

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Speaker 6: of his throwing. Number Two, I expect Buffalo to utilize

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Speaker 6: James Cook out of the backfield as a receiver. I

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Speaker 6: also expect this Spagnola knows that Buffalo hasn't done this

538
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Speaker 6: all year long, and I expect Spagnola is prepared for this.

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Speaker 6: Buffalo needs to have a response to Spagnola's response to

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Speaker 6: Cook out of the backfield. And the last point is

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Speaker 6: Ho needs to come up and walk on the line.

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Speaker 6: Hoyt is just a different player than the rest of

543
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Speaker 6: the Bills. He looks a lot like TJ. Watt from Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 6: The man is violent in this yeus on his attack.

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Speaker 6: Getting the homes on the ground, keeping them in the

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Speaker 6: pocket will be the key to the game. Finally, I'll

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Speaker 6: close it off by saying, Tasker, this is a no brainer.

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Speaker 6: You belong in the Hall of Fame. You should have

549
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Speaker 6: been there years ago. Go Bills, look forward to your response.

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Speaker 5: All right, thank you.

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Speaker 3: That's nice.

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Speaker 2: James Cook, you know, splitting them out in the passing game,

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Speaker 2: I like it. I've been pounding the table for it.

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Speaker 3: I was just what I was going to say, You've

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Speaker 3: been pounding the table for it.

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Speaker 10: He uh.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't had a passing target in this offense since

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Speaker 2: Week five, when he had one passing target against the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: and I think he can be a mismatch in that area.

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Speaker 2: And the beauty of it is you do have a

561
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Speaker 2: counter because you could come out in twelve personnel. You

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Speaker 2: got Cook in the backfield, and they're going to put

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Speaker 2: base defense on the field, and then you split him

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Speaker 2: out and motion them out to run a pass route.

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Speaker 2: And he's got either a linebacker or a safety on him.

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Speaker 2: And I don't care what linebacker you have. I don't

567
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Speaker 2: care what safety you have. It's a mismatch if he's

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Speaker 2: against James Cook. So I am with you one thousand percent,

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Speaker 2: Jeff on using James Cook in the passing game. And

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Speaker 2: I think it really can put opposing defenses in a

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Speaker 2: bit of a quandary and a lack of an ideal matchup.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Cook has twelve receptions on the season.

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Speaker 2: For eighty nine yards, and one of them went for

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Speaker 2: fifty one against the Ravens in Week one.

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Speaker 3: He needs to have like twenty five catches thus far.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I'm with you. I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Hoyt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. I don't know that Michael Hoyt can

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Speaker 3: like completely alter the balance of power on the Bill's

580
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Speaker 3: defense or in this Bill's Chiefs matchup on that side

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Speaker 3: of the ball. When Mahomes is out there and the

582
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Speaker 3: Bill's defense is out there. I don't know if Michael

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Speaker 3: Hoyd is going to change the entire complexion of the game,

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Speaker 3: but I've said this too, in these games, it's not

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Speaker 3: about stopping an offense as prolific as the Chiefs coal.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to You're not gonna hold him off

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Speaker 3: the scoreboard, whatever. But you do need to make a

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Speaker 3: play here and there. Right, You need to grab a

589
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Speaker 3: couple of turnovers, get a sack when they don't need

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Speaker 3: when they can't take a sack. Get Mahomes on the

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Speaker 3: ground when he you know, keep him in the pocket,

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Speaker 3: and when he does try to escape looks like he's

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Speaker 3: gonna escape, get him on the ground. The Bills did

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Speaker 3: that early in the game last year here in the

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Speaker 3: regular season. Yeah, it's a play. It's you gotta be

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Speaker 3: a playmaking defense when you're playing the Chiefs. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be a handful of moments in the game

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Speaker 3: where you gotta come through. If Michael Hoyd can do that, awesome,

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Speaker 3: but that's you're not gonna all of a sudden wave

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Speaker 3: a magic wand and all of a sudden the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: are gonna get one hundred and five yards passing and

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Speaker 3: sixty five yards rushing in a game and no touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: It's just not gonna happen. You just need a guy

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Speaker 3: to come in and do something in the moments when

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Speaker 3: you need him to do something. Michael Hoyd might be.

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Speaker 3: That might be that guy. Hopefully he is. Yeah, Cook

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Speaker 3: is a wide receiver we talked about. And you can say,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna keep Mahomes in the pocket. Okay, that's what

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Speaker 3: That's what they tell you about Josh too. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: keep Josh. And then on a fourth and two, Josh

611
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Speaker 3: snaps off a twenty six yarder to put the game away.

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Speaker 3: That's what Mahomes does too. That's why, that's why we

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Speaker 3: can't take our eyes off these games. These two guys

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Speaker 3: are all timers and they're playing again.

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Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: We gotta, we gotta, We just gotta sit back and

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Speaker 3: watch strap in.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Ryan in Toronto next. Let me punch

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Speaker 2: him up here. What did my computer frow Let me

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Speaker 2: see here, Yeah, my computer froze. All right, hang on,

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Speaker 2: if somebody else can, somebody else can punch up Ryan

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Speaker 2: in Toronto, that'd be great.

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Speaker 7: I got it. CHRISTI there we go.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead. Ryan.

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Speaker 11: All right, guys, but Monday Morning headlines. Honestly, I hate

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Speaker 11: to say this, but this is why mandam Bean needs

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Speaker 11: to pick a wide receive in the first round. Look

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Speaker 11: at last year's draft he passed upon so last not

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Speaker 11: last year before that, he passed upon. Now, if you

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Speaker 11: able the Brian Thomas and then you had lat Michael

632
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Speaker 11: McConkie sitting behind Coleman, I just got to pick cold

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Speaker 11: in the second round. Come on, being you need to

634
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Speaker 11: understand wide receiver. This game has changed. It's all about passing. Yes,

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Speaker 11: games because he's having a great season so far, but

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Speaker 11: the end of the day, in the long term, it's

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Speaker 11: a passing league, period.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to disagree with you

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Speaker 2: on that. Brian Thomas was off the board before the

641
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Speaker 2: Bill's original pick. I believe he went twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: First to the We were hoping he'd make it, but

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Speaker 3: he didn't. And now he seems I heard that people

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Speaker 3: were talking about him not being well.

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Speaker 2: He's he's struggling right now. He's got a lot of drops. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's really having a tough time.

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Speaker 3: I get it. You're right, this offense doesn't have a

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Speaker 3: guy who is a number one wide out playing like

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Speaker 3: that right now, and everybody thinks they're missing it. I'm

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Speaker 3: not completely convinced, although I would love to see a

651
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Speaker 3: guy you know, like that on the team because good

652
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: players make you better. And if somebody earns that spot

653
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: and starts playing like that, yeah, I don't care whether

654
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: he's the guy on a guy on our practice squad,

655
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: or a guy we've been watching for three years. All

656
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: of a sudden becomes that I don't care, or they

657
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: go out and sign a seven to eleven clerk, I

658
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 3: don't care, go find one. I'm all about it, because

659
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: good players make you better. The question is what are

660
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: they gonna do with what they got? And they ain't

661
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 3: gonna change it this week, and that's what you're trying

662
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: to do. So they're gonna have to make this offense functional,

663
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: more functional than it has appeared in the passing game

664
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: outside of the as we all know, the outside of

665
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: the last half of the fourth quarter against Baltimore, it's

666
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: been just okay. They've had flashes, but consistently hasn't been

667
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 3: good enough.

668
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: Now let's go to Brandon in Ellicottville.

669
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 7: Let's up Brandon, Hey say steam, good to talk to

670
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 7: you again.

671
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 8: Sure my Monday morning's headline.

672
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 7: Cheffers can't save Chiefs from cook Bill's roll.

673
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Carl Cheffers is the head referee for this one.

674
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: I like the headline. I do worry about Carl Cheffers.

675
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: And here's why, Steve. As you know, I consult the

676
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: statistical records.

677
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: Of referee preoccupied with that, I think.

678
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 8: And.

679
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: The officiating crew leading the league who I want to

680
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: know this in total flags per game is Carl Cheffers

681
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: twenty point seven total flags per game. He also leads

682
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: the league in penalties assessed just over seventeen per game,

683
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: and he's only refed seven games, not eight, and he

684
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: leads the league in total flag per game. If there's

685
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: one bit of good news, it is this the breakdown

686
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: of those flags per game seven point four for the

687
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: home team, nine point eight for the away team. So

688
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: that's one area you want to continue. Okay, more flags

689
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: for the away team than the home team. See, if

690
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: we have enough time. We have enough trouble with the

691
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: Chiefs as it is. We don't need the refs helping them.

692
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen it before. Good luck with that,

693
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: and we got a we got a hanky happy referee.

694
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: Just getting the fourth Just get the fourth down, quarterback

695
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: sneak right, and we'd be a little happier daying. Don't

696
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: let their tackles move early. That I'd be happier too,

697
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 3: And don't let their court, don't let their defensive tackle

698
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: line up in the neutral zone.

699
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: It would be nice to see James Cook roll to

700
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: your point, but I am I have respect for this

701
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: Chiefs run front. The last two weeks, they've allowed eighty

702
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: five yards rushing combined sixty yards. Last week against the Commanders,

703
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: which was the number two rushing offense in football, right

704
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: behind Buffalo, they held them to sixty yards. Now, granted

705
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: they had a backup quarterback who the Chiefs really didn't

706
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: have to terribly respect defensively. So, but from what I've

707
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: seen in watching more than half of that game, already

708
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: Commander's Chiefs, they weren't stacking eight in the box. They

709
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: were getting it done with seven. So it's a good

710
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: run front that the Chiefs have. Yeah, so it's not

711
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: going to be as easy as it was last week

712
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: against Carolina, I can promise you that.

713
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: Right, And yes, that's right. And Carolina sees the Bills

714
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: way less than the Chiefs do. Spagnolo probably has a

715
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: really good handle on the Bills. And what happens is

716
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: they they learn your rules about blocking and stuff and

717
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: they start to take advantage of it. Everybody does that

718
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: to each other, right, So these guys can break down

719
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: film to the point where they know what's going to

720
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: happen if a guy, if a defender lines up in

721
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: this gap as opposed to a foot the other way

722
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: or a foot the other way. They'll know what the

723
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 3: offensive line is going to do on a certain play. Now,

724
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: they don't know what the play is going to be

725
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: until after the balls snap, but they do know those

726
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: rules and they can give their guys stunts and checks

727
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: to combat that. So it's it is a chess game

728
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: that goes into the minutia of that. So Spagnolo, knowing

729
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 3: the Bills the way he does, is going to have

730
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: a great handle on what they like to do and

731
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: what they can do, and what they've been successful doing

732
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: this year as opposed to where they were a year ago.

733
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: I mean, it's their neck deep in data. So it's

734
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: so when you get to the game, it's like, okay,

735
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: here you know, here you go, what do you got

736
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 3: for me today, and then it's like, okay, now, now

737
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: you kind of get out in front of it. That

738
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 3: way you got to go. You gotta forget the data

739
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: and go forward without data and adjust to what's happening

740
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: exactly exactly.

741
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jane on a cell next. What's up Jane?

742
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 10: Hello there, it's good to talk to you, guys. Sure,

743
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 10: I've been on the I've called in before, but usually

744
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 10: I don't not brave enough to try to compete with

745
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 10: all the other callers. But this is I'm a grandmother

746
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 10: and a woman, of course, and so my view is

747
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 10: going to sound like a grandmother and a woman. But

748
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 10: this last year, these a couple of years, I think

749
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 10: I've learned what it really means to be a Buffalo

750
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 10: Bills fan. And to me, it means, you know, caring

751
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 10: about the team and falling in love with the guys

752
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 10: you know from week to week, largely because of what

753
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 10: us fans learned from you guys, and mostly from you guys.

754
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 10: But to me, it doesn't matter how they do anymore.

755
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 10: I just feel bad when they lose, terribly bad, you know.

756
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 10: But but this is kind of a silly question, and

757
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 10: you don't you're probably not going to be able to

758
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 10: answer it, or you won't. But it's come to my

759
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 10: attention that a lot of the reporters that do all

760
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 10: these podcasts and even report for the team with the

761
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 10: team are not even Bills fans. And I know that

762
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 10: you know that that's okay.

763
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 7: There.

764
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 10: They went to school to learn how to to do

765
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 10: journalism and yeah, and be objected. Yeah, and they shouldn't

766
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 10: be applauded for what they do. But still my feelings

767
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 10: were hurt. I was like, you don't even really care,

768
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 10: I mean not really. They don't care that much about

769
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 10: the Bills, you know, And I just wondered how you guys.

770
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 10: And lately I've noticed a lot of negative comments, even

771
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 10: on sports radio. It's like everybody knows everything and everybody

772
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 10: is an armchair quarterback and yeah, and even the reporters

773
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 10: that are supposed to be reporting, and they are reporting,

774
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 10: you can, they have sort of like a cynical view

775
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 10: of the Bills. And I have trouble accepting it and

776
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 10: listening to it. I've gotten so that I turned things

777
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 10: off that I've used to watch it all the time.

778
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 10: Gotcha podcasts you know about the Bills? I turn off

779
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 10: because I can't stand to hear them saying how the

780
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 10: Bills aren't doing this and they're not doing that, and

781
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 10: just wondered what you saw it.

782
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, and thanks for the call, Jane. Look,

783
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 2: journalist's job is to be objective, and so they're not

784
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: really supposed to have any skin in the game in

785
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: terms of the teams that they cover. Now, have there

786
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: been reporters that cover this team that were born and

787
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: raised here and we're fans of this team, absolutely, But

788
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: even they have to try to be as objective as

789
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 2: they can. Podcasts are kind of a different realm. They're

790
00:41:52,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: rooted in opinion and analysis, and that's gonna spark some

791
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: different kinds of thoughts than what you would read, you know,

792
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: in a written piece. So I think you just got

793
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: to be mindful of that and then it might be

794
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: a little bit easier to stomach. I don't know how

795
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 2: else to really put it, you know. And some people

796
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: have strong opinions because they genuinely believe those opinions, and

797
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: other people sometimes like to make waves, you know, everybody's

798
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: got a different style. Yeah, and there's no right or.

799
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: Wrong really, So no, there's there's truth and there's fact,

800
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: and then there's conjecture and opinion and sometimes that and

801
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 3: speculation and among other things. Yeah, among other things. So

802
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: you got to take all of it for what it

803
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 3: is in inside of those little categories.

804
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: And it's your job as a fan to kind of

805
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: decipher one from the other. So maybe if you look

806
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: at it that way and take on that challenge and say,

807
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: is this person really giving it to me straight or

808
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: they just kind of spinning a web of their own here,

809
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: And who knows, maybe that might make it more entertaining

810
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: for you going forward, Jane, So good luck with that.

811
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. More of your phone

812
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: calls when we get back on one. Bill's Live Stay

813
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:30,239
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814
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815
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,080
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816
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: seven sacks last week, nine quarterback hits, and a gaggle

817
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: of quarterback pressures, and we'd like to see a repeat

818
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: performance of that this week in a home atmosphere against

819
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, because we've seen a consistent pass rush can

820
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: be can be Patrick Mahomes kryptonite.

821
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 5: Can be.

822
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 3: Is it always consistent? Is the problem? It's consistent because

823
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: in the times you don't do it, you know, you

824
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: end up going back and lining up for the for

825
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: extra point defense. You know, Yeah, there's there.

826
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: There are pluses and minuses, Yes there are, so we'll see.

827
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: It's uh, but you have to be encouraged by how

828
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: the past rush looked. Last week. I thought Michael Hoyd

829
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: was a huge shot in the arm for the pass rush.

830
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: We had Dion Walker in here in studio yesterday after

831
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: practice Wednesday, and he said, Hoyt is a hype man,

832
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: like you get jazz to play when you're lined up

833
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: next to that dude. And you know Dion Walker had

834
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: the fumble recovery on his strip sack. So yeah, I

835
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: mean he was a menace.

836
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he really made a difference. Now, certainly they didn't

837
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: have any film on what it was going to look

838
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: like with him, and they didn't know what kind of

839
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: player he was. Hey, go back and look at film

840
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: it with the rams and stuff, and maybe their coaches

841
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: turned them onto that and they went back and looked.

842
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: But you know, they didn't know how he's gonna look

843
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: in a Bills uniform and where the Bills were gonna

844
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: even line him up let alone, if he's gonna come

845
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: from inside or outside. So they probably caught Carolina coaching

846
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: staff off a little bit off guard. But by the

847
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: same token, you know, Andy Dalton wasn't going anywhere. It's

848
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 3: like everything in this it's a week to week league.

849
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: And for as good as it looked last week, you're

850
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: going against a completely different group of guys this week.

851
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: And for every great thing you do in the NFL,

852
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: there are six things why you should have been able

853
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 3: to do it, Yeah, and only one or two things

854
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 3: is why you shouldn't have been able to do it.

855
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: So it you know, there's two sides to every coin.

856
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: It was great in Carolina last week. The run game

857
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 3: was cooking, the pass rush was cooking, they were getting turnovers,

858
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: the whole thing. It's another week here we go.

859
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there are no guarantees that those things will

860
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: repeat themselves, but we certainly hope that they do. Cooling

861
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: down punt return, Buffalo has found it difficult to get

862
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: good production from their punt return unit. Thus far on

863
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: the season, they are averaging five point six yards per

864
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: punt return that is near the bottom of the league.

865
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: Their longest punt return this season fifteen yards. They are

866
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 2: playing the thirteenth ranked punt coverage unit in the Chiefs

867
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: this weekend, and they have one of the best special

868
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: teams coaches of all time and Dave Toub. So it's

869
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: not going to get any easier this week. So they

870
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 2: got to figure that out. Yeah, and they tried different people.

871
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not sitting still with it. We'll see what

872
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: happens this week. It might be that Codridgon goes back

873
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 3: out there. Maybe he's given them enough reason to give

874
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: him another shot at it this week, or maybe there

875
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 3: was he was dealing with something that has been resolved

876
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: and maybe that's why they gave him a couple of

877
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: weeks off as well. He wasn't on the injury report

878
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,479
Speaker 3: or anything like that, but doesn't mean it wasn't something

879
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 3: going on in his personal life either that he's got

880
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: straight now. I don't know. I'm just saying they could

881
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: come full circle and come back and say, Okay, you're

882
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: ready to go back in there and do better this time,

883
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: and and you know that motivates a guy sometime. We

884
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: had the thing the conversation yesterday, a guy calling in

885
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: about giving guys fines and punishing them for getting these

886
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 3: pre snap penalties. Guys respond to getting benched. If you

887
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: want results, bench the guy and let him work his

888
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: way back on the field. Then he you know, he

889
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: probably learned his lesson. Same thing could go on with

890
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: any other player, let alone punt returners, wide receivers, running backs,

891
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: all of that. Maybe that, and maybe that will happen.

892
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: We'll see.

893
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here when our number two b

894
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: in just about five minutes time, we're gonna be doing it.

895
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: With the Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas joining us in

896
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: studio for his weekly visit. We'll get his thoughts on

897
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 2: James Cook, especially knowing at his two hundred and sixteen

898
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: yard performance eclipped Thurman's two hundred and fourteen yard performance

899
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: back in nineteen ninety.

900
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: Thurman came out in the third quarter two.

901
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. Uh, So we'll talk about that with him,

902
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: among other things in this Bill's Chiefs matchup coming up

903
00:48:25,400 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live Stay with Us, The One

904
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: Bills Live presented by Calida Health. All Right, second hour

905
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: here on a Thursday, Chris Brown, Steve Pastor and joining

906
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: studio by the Hall of Fame with Terman Thomas making

907
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: this weekly visit, and he's dried off. He's in Thomas,

908
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: and uh, I guess we should begin, yes, please with

909
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: James Cook's Pery Mormans at Carolina.

910
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 12: Man, I was hoping that this is like after the

911
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 12: game was over, I'm like, this has to start to

912
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 12: show Thursday.

913
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, two hundred and sixteen rushing yards and I think

914
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: he avers like nine point nine to carry. How stunned

915
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: were you that Carolina, which came into the game with

916
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: the eighth ranked run defense, could not come up with

917
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 2: an answer for the toss play for about three and

918
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: a half quarters.

919
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 5: That was That was stunning. But I'm glad the Bills

920
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 5: kept doing it.

921
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 12: Oh oh man, let up? I mean because yeah, we

922
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 12: were talking about it. How you know their run defense

923
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 12: is supposed to be pretty good, right.

924
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 3: John's gonna get a blister from pitching the ball, right,

925
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: So no, it was.

926
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Speaker 5: Uh man, I absolutely love it.

927
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 12: And I got to a point and I was saying, Man,

928
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 12: I think even before you had one hundred yards, I

929
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 12: was like, this could be a two hundred yard day

930
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 12: on like eighteen or nineteen Carris, not like thirty something.

931
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: Carris And was nineteen carries from sixteen to sixteen. When

932
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Speaker 3: did you come out of the game on Monday Night

933
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: Football when he had two fourteen? He came out of

934
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 3: like thirty third quarter. Man, in the third quarter, everybody's like,

935
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 3: why don't you stay in it? And we're like we

936
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: got to play him again?

937
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly the same thing.

938
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: Else that was the Jets.

939
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: That was a road game against the Jets, Monday night

940
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: game that.

941
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Speaker 12: Was wasn't really I don't know. I mean no, Eli

942
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 12: was like, no, you're not going back. Yeah, I know,

943
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 12: we got a long way to go. Yeah, yeah, you're

944
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 12: going man, Kenny can take this.

945
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: Give Kenny some run.

946
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: Much different animal this week, Therm. I don't know if

947
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: you've noticed this, but over the last three weeks, the

948
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs run defense has come to play because they faced

949
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: the Commanders. As you know, on Monday Night Football, Commanders

950
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 2: had the number two rushing offense in football, right behind

951
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: the Bills. Chiefs held them to sixty yards rushing. The

952
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: week before, they held the Raiders to twenty five yards rushing.

953
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: Raiders aren't a lot to write home about, so take

954
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: it with a grain of salt. And then the week prior,

955
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: they held the Detroit Lions to ninety eight yards rushing,

956
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: holding that crew under one hundred. It's a pretty good

957
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: feather in your cap.

958
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 5: I think that right there is the most impressive one

959
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 5: right there.

960
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 12: I mean even with the Washington the Commanders, I mean

961
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 12: they didn't have Jalen Daniels, right, so that kind of yeah,

962
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 12: that number probably would be low stacked the box and not.

963
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 5: Let see if Marcus Mariota can beat you, right yep.

964
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 12: But the Detroit one that was insive, and it made

965
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 12: Detroit actually stop running the football. They were passing the

966
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 12: football more than they were running.

967
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: That was a Sunday night game if I remember.

968
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 12: And so yeah, that's more impressive, but especially you know,

969
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 12: in the last couple of weeks and seeing what Detroit's

970
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 12: running game has been about.

971
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 5: So but yeah, it.

972
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 12: Seems like the Chiefs are It seems like everything turned

973
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 12: around when they when they showed that play over and

974
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 12: over again of Chris Jones not really hustling to tackle

975
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 12: Trevor Lawrence on the whole line. Ever since that play,

976
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 12: they have turned it up a notch. And I'm not

977
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 12: talking like defense only, I'm talking like offense too.

978
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 2: And they got Rashi Rice back from suspension the next week,

979
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 2: and I was telling Steve that that Week six game

980
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: against Detroit was the first time the Chiefs have had Hollywood, Brown,

981
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: Rashi Rice, and Xavier Worthy all on the field at

982
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: the same time, either healthy or available from suspension. So

983
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 2: when they have all those guys to roll out there

984
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: with Kelsey, it's a problem because most secondaries don't go

985
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: four deep to cover all the bases there.

986
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you can with quality people, yeah, with quality Yeah,

987
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 5: and you can see it too.

988
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 12: It's it's actually starting to have a resurgence of Travis

989
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 12: Kelcey having all three, having the other three they've worried

990
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 12: about the other three guys. And when if you looked

991
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 12: at the game last week, which I looked at, I

992
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 12: was like, man like, he was blocking and blocking as

993
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 12: soon as Mahomes started scrambling. I mean he was at

994
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 12: the line of scrimmage, just took off from Rent and

995
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 12: there he was a five catch the ball at fiveybody else.

996
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 5: Run for everybody down the field because you have.

997
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 12: Hollywood, you have Worthy, uh, you have Juju, even Juju

998
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 12: downfield catching balls downfield. So yeah, it's one of those

999
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 12: delayed routes. You know, something that the Bills have to

1000
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 12: watch out for you. But it's definitely open up there.

1001
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 12: But their running game still has not been there, and

1002
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 12: I think they're searching.

1003
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 3: For that play. This what we say. But they're still

1004
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 3: a problem. I mean, they come out and throw it.

1005
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: If they have sixty offensive plays, they could throw it

1006
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: fifty seven of them still still being again, still being

1007
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: a game. This skills thirty five plus.

1008
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 8: You know.

1009
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: I mean that this offense looks as good for the

1010
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: Chiefs as we've ever seen it look. And that's saying

1011
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 3: you know, that's sayings saying a lot lot and in

1012
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 3: the back in the day, going to when they went

1013
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: out on Monday night way back in twenty eighteen and

1014
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: scored fifty and lost fifty to fifty two against Rams

1015
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 3: won it. It was crazy. And that's what this offense

1016
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 3: looks like.

1017
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it does. Like I said, it's it's starting

1018
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 12: to jail at the right time. I mean, they're in

1019
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 12: a place in this whole entire schedule this year. I mean,

1020
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 12: they lose this game, they're four and four, four and four,

1021
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 12: and you pretty much your you won't even be in

1022
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 12: the seventh of the eight spot.

1023
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 5: You might be in an that'll.

1024
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: Be five and four ninth game, that'll be five and four.

1025
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 3: They're five and three.

1026
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 5: I must have been looking at something old. But anyway,

1027
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 5: they still can't lose.

1028
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't want a fourth loss. There's no

1029
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: place in the division.

1030
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, So.

1031
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 12: Tell you what, if they want to be the team

1032
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 12: that we've known over the years, I mean, they have

1033
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 12: to come in here.

1034
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 5: And really beat us.

1035
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 12: I mean, if you want to take them like serious,

1036
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 12: maybe maybe climb up the board and maybe end up

1037
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 12: winning division or whatever. This will be the game to

1038
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 12: do it. But on the other side, it is vital

1039
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 12: for us too. And I think it's vital for us mentally, Yeah,

1040
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 12: because because it does carry at way, because if we

1041
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 12: always beat them in a regular season, let's always beat

1042
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 12: them in a regular season. Then that's the way we

1043
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 12: have to play. We just have to conquer that monster

1044
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 12: when it gets to the playoffs. But we need to

1045
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 12: come out here. I think we need to come out

1046
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 12: here and dominate from start to finish. That's I don't

1047
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 12: want them one score game.

1048
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 5: I don't want one story. You're right, a lot of

1049
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 5: them have been that over the year.

1050
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 12: Can we get a blowout like we did last week's

1051
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 12: Caroline against a team like the Chiefs.

1052
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 5: Now, that would be that would get you?

1053
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 8: Like?

1054
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 3: Get that?

1055
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 5: Which tell?

1056
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: I got this book of stats? Right? Me and Steve

1057
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: have to distill this stuff down every week. And in

1058
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 2: nine previous regular season meetings between the Bills and the

1059
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs with Mahomes and Allen, the cumulative point total for

1060
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 2: the Chiefs is two forty three and for the Bills

1061
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: it's to forty two. Yeah, one point.

1062
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: That's with a nine point win by the Bills, an

1063
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: eight point win by the Bills, and then you got

1064
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 3: the other games by the wins by the Chiefs. I

1065
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 3: mean it's yeah, it's.

1066
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: Nip and tuck. So you're you're your dominant. Runaway victory

1067
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: I think is a pipe dream.

1068
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 3: I hate to tell you.

1069
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: I mean I'd love to see it.

1070
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 5: I would love.

1071
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think I think it could happen. Man, let

1072
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 12: me browning them fast. We don't need to have any

1073
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 12: slow starts.

1074
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you about this because I think

1075
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: we saw a dramatic improvement. And granted it was against

1076
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: the backup quarterback last week. With Buffalo's pass rush, Michael

1077
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: Hoyt looked like a real force multiplier up there. I

1078
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: thought he gave the defensive front, a lot of juice,

1079
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: a lot of production. I was just saying on the

1080
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: air we had Dion Walker in here yesterday and he's like,

1081
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: oh yeah, Mike is Mike's a hype man, Like he

1082
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 2: gets everybody juiced. I think this defense needed that. They

1083
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: needed the hype as much as they needed the results.

1084
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: But I mean, you put hoyt Rousseau and Bosa on

1085
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: the field, how you matching up? Like you know what

1086
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: I mean?

1087
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 5: Like, I think, well, Kennison's left tackle being playing Simmons.

1088
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: So Simmons is still away from the team for a

1089
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: personal matter. The guy that they've been starting there, well,

1090
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: it's been a couple of guys actually, but Jalen Moore

1091
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: has been over there most of the time. Lanne Morris

1092
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: has filled in once in a while. Those are both

1093
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: like third and fifty year guys that have been there

1094
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: and done that, and it's been okay, yeah for the

1095
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: most part. Okay, not great, but okay, yeah, if he's

1096
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: bringing the hype like that, But it's a road atmosphere

1097
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: for them right with these tackles.

1098
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: So we've said, I've made this point too that when

1099
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 3: you're playing this offense with this offensive line. It's not

1100
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: so much about holding Mahomes to one hundred and five

1101
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 3: yards passing or to them to thirty two yards rushing,

1102
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: or at some point you got to make a play

1103
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: against them because they're gonna be offense is going to

1104
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: move them. You know, they're just too good to expect

1105
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: them to all of a sudden take a day off,

1106
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: no matter how good your defense is. But I think

1107
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: the key to beating them is the way the Bills,

1108
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: Bills have beaten them in the past. You get Mahomes

1109
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 3: on the ground in a place where they can't take

1110
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 3: a sack, or you get a tipped interception and a

1111
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: place where they need the possession to stay close, and

1112
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: it gives you a chance to go up by two scores,

1113
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 3: or you get you know, or run by Josh on

1114
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: a fourth and two for twenty six yard touchdown. That

1115
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. You got to make a play against

1116
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 3: him at a point and a critical point in the game,

1117
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 3: which there's always going to be those in a close game.

1118
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 3: So I think that's the way you kind of have

1119
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 3: to beat this team. Brownie's up, he says, you know, turnovers.

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00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 2: And the two takeaways to beat him.

1121
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: He says, you got to get two turnovers and yeah, okay, okay,

1122
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: but you can't.

1123
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: You gotta be plus because that's because that's two less

1124
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: possessions for them. Yeah, and you know you're helping your

1125
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: offense give him more chances to go score, right.

1126
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1127
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 3: So I think that's kind of where you're at with

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00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 3: whether offensive tackles are playing or not. At some point

1129
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: you got to get a play on them.

1130
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 12: Man, And I think like we need to make that

1131
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 12: play early, like make it like don't maybe wait to

1132
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 12: the limit or the fourth quarter. Don't let them Yeah, yeah,

1133
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 12: make you need to make that play first, you know,

1134
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 12: instead of yeah, be a tone center.

1135
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: And it happened last year they sacked Mahomes early and

1136
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: then he threw the interception as well.

1137
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah. I mean, I mean I'm

1138
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 12: loving his hype stuff. I mean, he said, and he's

1139
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 12: getting the.

1140
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 5: Guys going, that's what we need, if we need, if

1141
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 5: we can channel that energy from here on out, it'd

1142
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 5: be great because I think he's a motor guy. And

1143
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 5: I was he's a high motor guy.

1144
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 12: And I was thinking too, like when when the Bill

1145
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 12: signed him, Like I remember like the Rams being like,

1146
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 12: oh my god, I didn't want to lose that guy.

1147
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 12: He's with the Rams, right, Yeah, they didn't want to

1148
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 12: lose him because he was that hype guy. And I'm

1149
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 12: glad we got it. I know he had to wait

1150
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 12: six games or whatever, but if he can continue to

1151
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 12: bring that type of energy, that's when you're like, Okay,

1152
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 12: let's turn it up a notch from here on out

1153
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 12: and here on out.

1154
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: You know, Kansas City's offense only has one game of

1155
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: tape on this guy. Like, you know, Bobby Babbage and

1156
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: Sean McDermot can draw up a whole bunch of stuff

1157
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 2: that they haven't even seen yet in terms of pass

1158
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: rush playing with that guy moving all around.

1159
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 5: He was mostly inside in the Carolina game, right.

1160
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 2: Well, he came off the edge too.

1161
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was inside out and he was inside like

1162
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 5: porting ding.

1163
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: But you could stand him up off the ball, yeah,

1164
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you could stand him up on the edge

1165
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: in a two point like you put him right next

1166
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: to Russo and just overload one side if you want so.

1167
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: I just think there's a multitude of things you can

1168
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: do with him, which is why they wanted to sign

1169
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 2: him so badly, because they thought he could be a

1170
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 2: movable chess move.

1171
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 3: Our question today, Therm is what's the headline gonna be

1172
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 3: on Monday?

1173
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 5: Monday?

1174
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to be a thing called newspapers and

1175
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: they'd have a headline. Yeah, what would be that?

1176
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 3: What what's the headline? You think? Uh?

1178
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 5: The headline Monday morning, it's probably gonna.

1179
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 3: Be Bill's wind means nothing. Here we are we've seen

1180
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 3: this before.

1181
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 5: No, you know what, No, I'm thinking. I don't know, man,

1182
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 5: that's a good question. What Cook eats again? I don't know,

1183
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 5: Maybe Cook eats again? Hey, I.

1184
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 12: Last week was like impressive because they knew what they

1185
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 12: were going to do. They were going to run the

1186
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 12: football and Carolina could not stop it. If they can,

1187
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 12: I don't know if they're gonna be able to do

1188
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 12: that against the against the Chiefs. But I tell you

1189
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 12: what we're they're blocking is really good up front.

1190
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: Well, yes, because one hundred and forty one of Cooks

1191
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixteen yards came before contact before contact,

1192
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 2: So one hundred and forty one and two hundred and sixteen, Like, yeah,

1193
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: it's more than half.

1194
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.

1195
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 12: Hey, Look, I'm I'm excited about the game, but I

1196
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 12: don't want to get too over excited about it.

1197
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 3: Wow, what time you're getting here Sunday like six?

1198
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 12: Well, I mean it's it's it's Kansas City, man, Yeah,

1199
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 12: it's Kansas City until like.

1200
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 5: We like dominate them.

1201
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 12: It's always going to be in the back of your mind,

1202
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 12: like the deferen exactly, you have to.

1203
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 3: So it's Kansas City. So Jim Nance Tony Romo are

1204
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 3: coming in town to do the game with Tracy Wolfs

1205
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 3: and so I'm I know, the producer of the the

1206
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,479
Speaker 3: executive producer of the NFL on CBS for the Number

1207
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 3: one Cruise, Jim Rickoff, Who's who I've worked with a

1208
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 3: ton during my time at CBS. And they're being there.

1209
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 3: Ryan Galvin is the producer for our preseason game. They're

1210
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 3: all coming in. I've already gotten calls from them about

1211
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 3: because they're coming down. You know, they got they got

1212
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 3: their own favorite you know Nance, they go to their

1213
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 3: own place for dinner. They got all this stuff going on.

1214
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 3: They they look forward to these games. They see them all.

1215
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: Become an annual pilgrimage for the network people because they

1216
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: got to they're coming for this game every year.

1217
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 3: Jim Nance brought his son to the game last year.

1218
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 5: Really Yeah, So.

1219
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's a thing.

1220
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 5: It is a thing.

1221
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 12: And and considering like this is a this is the

1222
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 12: last year in Kansas City, might even be in this

1223
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 12: be playing in hide Mark Stadium, the old high Mark

1224
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 12: Well yeah, you know, I mean unless something happens in

1225
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 12: the playoffs or whatever, you know, everything is move it over.

1226
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's a big game. That's why I said

1227
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 5: four to twenty five.

1228
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there'll be a gazillion people there. Thirty million

1229
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 3: people watching this game. Yeah, seriously, serious, might break that

1230
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: is a real number. There'll be thirty million people watching

1231
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: more than that because it's forty it's the four to

1232
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 3: twenty five window, and it's the biggest window of the week.

1233
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 12: It's going to the playing well, build the playing well. Sure,

1234
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 12: I've been seeing the highlights all week of the matchup.

1235
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean, these are the games that the networks protect.

1236
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: This game is not getting flexed anywhere. CBS gets a

1237
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: handful of games they can protect every year, and this

1238
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: is at the top of the list. This thing is

1239
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: not hitting out of our four o'clock window.

1240
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 3: The history lesson to for people who don't understand or

1241
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 3: don't care about this stuff, or don't don't know, it

1242
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 3: used to be that one network like CBS would have

1243
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 3: all the AFC games or the NFC games. Back in

1244
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: the day it was the NFC. CBS was always NFC

1245
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: and NBC was always all the AFC games. That never

1246
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: it was never different. If an AFC team went to

1247
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 3: an NFC city, NBC would have the game. If the

1248
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: NFC came to an AFC city, then CBS would have it.

1249
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 3: So it's been like that for it was like that

1250
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 3: forever and then streaming Monday night Thursday night. Now those

1251
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: networks get games and it's up and now they fight

1252
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 3: over them.

1253
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: Now we didn't tell you guys about this, but we

1254
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: have chef Zachary Skinner from Delaware, North coming in and

1255
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: he is here to debut. Gentlemen. Two menu items at

1256
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 2: this week's game that are a tribute to one Steve

1257
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 2: Tasker and Thurman Thomas. Sitting in front of Steve is

1258
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 2: the sandwich called the Gunner the sandwich. The sandwiches hold on.

1259
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: Let me let me read this a go ahead sandwiches

1260
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: built for bold playmakers. Greek marinated chicken, breast dice, tomato, onion, banana, peppers,

1261
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: and feta cheese come together on a Hogi roll for

1262
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: a flavored combos dynamic as task his game. Available at

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Speaker 2: the seven one six stands near sections one fourteen and

1264
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,959
Speaker 2: one thirty six Sunday afternoon, and in front of mister

1265
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: Thomas is the Therminator, a double burger worthy of Hall

1266
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: of Fame running back Therman Thomas. This beast features crispy bacon,

1267
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: barbecue sauce, jalapeno relish an onion rings stacked on a

1268
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: Martin's Potato roll. It's a nod to the nineteen ninety

1269
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 2: one NFL MVP w power the Bills to four straight

1270
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: Super Bowl appearances. This one's going to be served at

1271
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: the Lenova Wings stand section one oh four. So uh,

1272
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 2: that is the Therminator, and that is the gun. Guy's

1273
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: got a sandwich named after Wow.

1274
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 3: Smells awesome. Eat on the air.

1275
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a handful over there.

1276
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 3: That's nice.

1277
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 2: Nice, Thank you so much, Delaware North taking care of those. Yeah,

1278
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: very nice to keep this. That's feta, Yeah, I think

1279
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: it's feeda dip.

1280
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very good. Yeah, that's exactly what.

1281
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: It's Greek and banana peppers and who says no, the

1282
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: banana peppers, jalapeno relish. I mean, come on, we got it.

1283
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: We're pulling out all the stops.

1284
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 5: Yes, that's nice, Thank you, Alice Jacobs.

1285
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 2: Uh. So, you know if the game gets a little

1286
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 2: hairy and you need to emotionally eat, yeah, you just

1287
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: go to the stand and get your sandwich.

1288
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 3: This is it. Do you know it's gonna happen?

1289
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 2: Man, So you're chewing that instead of your fingernails, you

1290
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yeah, Yes, that's right, because I

1291
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be nip and tuck. It's gonna

1292
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: be just kidd Yeah. I'd love to have a relaxing afternoon.

1293
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: I would with them up by thirty, but I want

1294
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 2: to be thirty to nothing to us. Yeah, I think

1295
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Speaker 2: we all want that, but we all live in this world.

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Speaker 2: It's not not fantasy land with rainbows and pixie sticks.

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Speaker 5: So defense going to turn it up. I feel it.

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Speaker 5: Defense going to turn it up. I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that I think.

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Speaker 5: So we need a statement game.

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Speaker 2: Well, and and that's and that's the biggest difference from

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01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: the regular season to the postseason because in the last

1303
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 2: four games when the Bills have won the regular season matchup,

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01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 2: the defense has only given up an average of about

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01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,440
Speaker 2: twenty to twenty one points per game. In the playoffs,

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01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: the defense has given up an average of thirty four

1307
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 2: points against an average it's a two touchdown difference. It's

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01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: tough food, and it's too much. And it's even the

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01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 2: offense to.

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Speaker 3: This though, except for the twenty twenty three January twenty three,

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Speaker 3: I think it was all those games are in Kansas City,

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01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 3: and the regular seasons would have been here for the

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Speaker 3: last couple of.

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Speaker 2: The one here was twenty seven to twenty four. Is

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01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 2: how that one finds, right, So but yeah, well that's

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 2: another reason why this game is important because you could

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01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 2: be talking.

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Speaker 3: This is the first seeding in the AFC. This is

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Speaker 3: the first time I'm starting to field like up to

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Speaker 3: my Now.

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Speaker 2: You're getting a little cle're getting a little for clemp now.

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 5: I was doing okay, excited about it.

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01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be a fun quiet confidence.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it.

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01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 5: I really do, I really do.

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01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 12: I just from the factor way that the defense played

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01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 12: last week, I'm still excited about those guys and obviously

1329
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 12: what I think we can control the football.

1330
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 5: Game better they can control it.

1331
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: They that would be an X factor. That's different from

1332
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: previous meetings. Steve like a defense that can kind of

1333
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: control the tempo and pace of the game by the Chiefs,

1334
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 2: because the Chiefs, when they put the offense on the field,

1335
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 2: they usually do whatever the hell they want. It'd be

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01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: nice to see someone steiny that.

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01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 5: And that was kind of like the I think the

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01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 5: first or the second year with Vaughn.

1339
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: Vn's first seasons the Cities where he got the he

1340
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: got that pressure right late and it turned into the

1341
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: interception from And it's amazing how we can all remember these.

1342
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 3: Plays like nine games. But yeah, that's this this matchup,

1343
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 3: it always feels different, you know, for some reason, and

1344
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 3: this one is feeling unique for all, you know, its

1345
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 3: own reasons. And where the Bills are at the point

1346
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 3: in the season, the stumbling start that the Chiefs got

1347
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 3: out to last year, they walk in here nine and

1348
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 3: oh in week eleven, man, it was it felt I

1349
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 3: can't remember exactly, but it feels like this one's even

1350
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 3: more of a challenge than that because they're coming in

1351
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 3: here desperate, desperate, and like last year they weren't playing

1352
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 3: so good and people the worst nine or team or

1353
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 3: the National Football League. Oh yeah, really, it's a short list,

1354
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 3: but that it feels and I guess we're always like that.

1355
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 3: This one feels worse than any of the others because

1356
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 3: it's here and now.

1357
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 2: But I'll throw another stat at you before we go

1358
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: to break here. So last year, we know that the

1359
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 2: Chiefs were winning games by the skin of their teeth.

1360
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 2: Last year they were eleven and oh in one score

1361
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 2: games last year. This year they are oh and three

1362
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 2: in one score games. So maybe you don't want to

1363
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: blow out there.

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01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 5: I want a straight kick, That's what I want, know.

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01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thanks for stopping in, as you do

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01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: every Thursday. We appreciate it. And like I said, if

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01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 2: you need to do some emotional leaning, you can go

1368
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: eat the terminator on Sunday afternoon. That's the Hall of

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01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 2: Famer Therma Thomas joining us here on One Bills Live.

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01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: We're back with more in a flash, including your phone call.

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01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: Stay tuned. Time now for excuse me, mister Tasker, presented

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Speaker 2: by Total Sports Enterprises, the official and exclusive autograph merchandise

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01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 2: partner of the Buffalo Bills. As you know if you've

1374
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 2: seen this segment before, we have fans submit their questions

1375
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 2: for Steve. Winners will receive a premium mystery box of

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 2: signed items could be a signed picture, elm at football

1377
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 2: or even a current players sign jersey. Rules do apply,

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Speaker 2: so visit Buffalo bills dot com, slash tsee tasker, and

1379
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: if you did not win today, you can check out

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Speaker 2: tsee Buffalo dot com or Activation tenths during Bill's home

1381
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 2: games to get yours. This week's winner is Daniel, who

1382
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: asks meeting a pro football player can be quite a

1383
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,959
Speaker 2: memorable experience for a fan. What is the most memorable

1384
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: experience you are able to share about an interaction with

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01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 2: a fan?

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01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 3: Okay, well, let me just pull the curtain back on

1387
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 3: one Bill's life. So we do some preparation for the show.

1388
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 3: We don't just show up. I mean it looks we

1389
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: make it look Easy's part of the job described right,

1390
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 3: But we do prepare. So in preparation for this, I

1391
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 3: went back in my phone and got a picture out

1392
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 3: years ago when we went to South Carolina to have

1393
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 3: joint practices with Oh Yeah, the Panther in Spartansburg. I

1394
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 3: wasn't playing. I'm talking about when you and I took

1395
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 3: the twenty nineteen and I took the show down there,

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01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 3: and while we were there, this guy comes up with

1397
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 3: this little guy and I'll show you the picture. That

1398
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: guy his name is Andrew, the father's name, and the

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01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 3: little boy's name is Tasker. So I don't even have

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 3: a grand kid named after me, let alone, right, So

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 3: that was six years and uh, and I thought that's

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01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 3: pretty awesome. So they he took that picture that and

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 3: that's in my phone. That's that picture there. That's one

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01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 3: of the cool things that's happened to me now. And

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01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 3: also they reached out to us to me this last weekend,

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01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 3: Tasker and his dad, Andrew were at the Bills game

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01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 3: in Carolina. They sent me a picture of them in

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01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 3: the stands and stuff, and and uh and I emailed.

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01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 3: They asked if I was going to be there and

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01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 3: I could, we could touch back, and I absolutely would have.

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I go say hi, but I you know,

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01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 3: I don't travel with the team. I'm here for postgame live.

1413
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 3: But that's you know, come on, that's one of the

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01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 3: most memorable things you'll happen to akrol athlete. The guy

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01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 3: named his firstborn son after me. The way I remember it,

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01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 3: Andrew told me that if it was a boy, he

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01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 3: got to name it. If it was a girl, his

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01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 3: wife got to name it. She you know, signed off, well,

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01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 3: she signed off on him naming it, didn't ask what

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01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 3: the name was going to be. She probably could have

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01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 3: done with another name, probably, but there it is. So that,

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01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 3: as you can imagine, that's a tough one to top.

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01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 3: That's a tough one to top. So having somebody come

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01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 3: up and introducing their little boy to you who's named

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01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 3: after you, that you've never met, that's that was pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that that's a good one.

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01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 3: That's for sure the best one. Thanks for the question.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. I I actually text I. We had, like

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01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 3: I say, we exchanged emails over the weekend. He was

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01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 3: going to be down there with this with Tasker and

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01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 3: and I text him and say, hey, I'm can I

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01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 3: use those pairs? I didn't use the ones that he

1433
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 3: sent me this week. I used the one from my phone.

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01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 2: So it was just a little tike. He's got just

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01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: six or seven.

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01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's yeah, however old. That is h He's good

1437
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 3: for him. So that was it.

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01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: That's awesome, Steve, you are going to be part of

1439
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: a signing event. Why don't you tell me?

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 3: That's right? Join me and Darryl Tallely, Dion Dawkins, Ray Davis,

1441
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 3: and Jackson Hawes at Total Sports Buffalo this Saturday, November First.

1442
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 3: Grab autograph tickets at tsee Buffalo dot com under the

1443
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 3: upcoming sign up under the upcoming signings tab. I'm gonna

1444
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 3: be there and all those guys are gonna be there.

1445
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 3: We're gonna sign autographs for those guys. They are the

1446
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 3: you know, they're an official partner of the Buffalo Bills.

1447
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 3: I've done stuff with him for a couple of years now,

1448
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: and Saturday, I'm going to be over there signing autographs

1449
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 3: for anybody who wants one. Usually takes me, usually takes

1450
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 3: me about forty five minutes to sign everybody who could

1451
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 3: possibly want my autograph, unlike other guys who they never

1452
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 3: get done. Well.

1453
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just go to the homepage t SE Buffalo

1454
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 2: dot com and then there's an upcoming signings tab across

1455
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: the top there. Just click on that and you'll get

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01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 2: all the information you need on the signing, the time,

1457
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 2: all that stuff.

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01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 3: I've got a ton of people coming in for the games.

1459
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a break from my household chaos for

1460
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 3: a couple hours and go over side autographs.

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01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, get me out of the house for a minute. Well,

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01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 2: there you go.

1463
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 3: But that'll be good. It's it'll be fun. It'll be

1464
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: great to see DT and all those guys over there.

1465
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 2: We are talking to you about what you think. The

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01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 2: Monday morning headline will be following the Sunday's Bill's Chiefs

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01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 2: game and eight O three five fifty got some people

1468
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 2: waiting patiently there that we had to get to. So

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01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 2: longest holding is David in Rochester. What's up, David?

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01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 4: Hi, guys, I wanted to give you my headline and

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01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 4: for Monday morning and make a comment about Keon Coleman

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01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 4: if I could. Okay, Monday morning headline is going to

1473
01:16:53,000 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 4: be Bill's Came the Chiefs thirty one to twenty. Okay,

1474
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 4: Now I should tell you that my friends all call

1475
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 4: me Sunday morning to get my picks and then bet

1476
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 4: the opposite.

1477
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 7: Or what I bet.

1478
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know they this week, David.

1479
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 4: But I like them and the defenses. Defense is on

1480
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 4: the rise, guys, you know that, and uh, they always

1481
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 4: play good against good teams, so I'm looking forward to

1482
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 4: the game. Anyway, Regarding Kian, I like the guy. I

1483
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 4: think he's a good player. I think he's a hard worker.

1484
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 4: I think he gets a raw deal in the media,

1485
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 4: and uh, I'll just talk about getting another receiver. I think,

1486
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 4: forget it. You gotta go with the guy you have.

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01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 4: He's a bill, he's a good guy. Blocks downfield, he'll

1488
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 4: be he'll come around, He'll he'll start to come up.

1489
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 4: He had a big game the first game against Baltimore, right,

1490
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, to be honest with you, that

1491
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 4: was Josh's only really good game. You know, Josh's done

1492
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 4: a little offt this year. So I don't know if

1493
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 4: this offense is built to go way down field and

1494
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 4: make big, splashy plays. So I think, I mean, we

1495
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 4: don't know what their what their what their plan is.

1496
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 4: But uh, I think given the chance, the guy will

1497
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 4: come up big again.

1498
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 3: I just like him, all right.

1499
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to hear what you thought.

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01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, David. I think people were expecting more

1501
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 2: from him in a year two because we saw flashes

1502
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 2: last year, you know, the big game against Seattle, had

1503
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: another nice game against the Dolphins, and then he gets

1504
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:02,799
Speaker 2: his forearm were wrist cracked on a personal foul penalty

1505
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 2: by Jordan Poyer of all people, and he misses the

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01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 2: next month. I really think that stunted his growth because

1507
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 2: he was kind of a lost puppy dog the rest

1508
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 2: of the year when he came back and really didn't

1509
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: give them a lot. So the hope was full. NFL offseason,

1510
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 2: got your feet wet, come back kill it in year

1511
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 2: two and after week one everybody was pumped. And then

1512
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: it's been a series of fits and starts since.

1513
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 3: Well, yes it has. And I'll say this as well,

1514
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 3: who's been killing it on this offense except James Cook?

1515
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 3: Even like you, like David said, I mean shakier has

1516
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 3: been productive, can Josh? Even Josh hasn't looked right. So

1517
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 3: it hasn't been solely on Keon Coleman, who has disappeared.

1518
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 3: It has been a large part of this. A large

1519
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 3: segment of this offense hasn't been present except for one

1520
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 3: half of one quarter against Baltimore an opening day. They

1521
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 3: certainly have played well at time, but nobody is on

1522
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 3: offense except James Cook is having the nobody, no pass

1523
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 3: catcher is having the kind of year James Cook is having. Offensively,

1524
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 3: even Josh has taken a step back from his numbers

1525
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 3: from a year ago. So you know, to throw all

1526
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 3: this and throw Keon under the bus. I mean that

1527
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 3: there's plenty of that to go around on this offense.

1528
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 3: They don't look the same and that is the at

1529
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 3: least you have to acknowledge that. Yeah, so I don't

1530
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 3: know if Keon maybe can be the poster child for

1531
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 3: that because you know, maybe everybody's looking at him like

1532
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 3: where's your step forward?

1533
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 2: You know?

1534
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 3: You know, Khalil Shakir has had some some plays. Most

1535
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 3: of them have been small catch, big run, but other

1536
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 3: than those he has been a little absent. So yeah,

1537
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 3: there's a there's plenty of concern about this offense because

1538
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 3: of the way it looks in comparison to what we've seen.

1539
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 3: It look at its best in years past with a

1540
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 3: less a wide receiver room than they've got this year.

1541
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, I get it. Keon Coleman's taking taking it

1542
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 3: on the chin this year and probably where it could be.

1543
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 3: The blame could be placed in a lot of places.

1544
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Butcher on

1545
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 2: the east side.

1546
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 7: What do you got butch my brother's from another beautiful mother.

1547
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 7: I love you, I love WGR, I love MSG into

1548
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 7: the fans to listen to watch this beautiful show. I

1549
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 7: love each and every one of you. I'm gonna get

1550
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 7: it right to it. But before I start, I want

1551
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 7: to say something today day, let me explain something to you.

1552
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 7: I respect you and I love you. But let me

1553
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 7: just say this to you, not just you and everybody,

1554
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 7: like Steve said, everybody around the world who listens. It's

1555
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 7: nothing wrong with Kean Coleman. Kii Coleman is a hell

1556
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 7: of a player. He's a hell of an athlete. It's

1557
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 7: about the scheme. He's playing in a certain scheme. When

1558
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 7: he was in Florida State, he was on the inside.

1559
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 7: He's playing outside in the NFL at the exact same time.

1560
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 7: We play a twenty five yard box. That's our offense,

1561
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 7: our office corner designs plays within wherever our markets is

1562
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 7: at twenty five yards, all the players is going to

1563
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 7: be in that circle. He doesn't do rub routes. He

1564
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 7: doesn't do anything for downfield receivers. So Dave, don't look

1565
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 7: at Keian Koleman because Brandon Bean gets a lot of

1566
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 7: bad rep because they say he don't draft players correctly, No,

1567
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 7: Brandon Bean, the staff draft a lot of players. It's

1568
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 7: our escape, whether it's our forty five, or whether it's

1569
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 7: our offense that doesn't use the players to utilize their

1570
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 7: full eligibility and a full talent and a full with

1571
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 7: what they normally do. I'm gonna put that on the side.

1572
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 7: Let me get back to my point, and thanks for

1573
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 7: taking my call. I'm calling regarding two things. Really, last year,

1574
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 7: we went in ahead and made a trade for Marie Cooper. Paid,

1575
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 7: We gave up a third round pick, We paid three

1576
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 7: million dollars. Marie Cooper was a prop which I found

1577
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 7: out now, especially now what I just said today is

1578
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 7: that in our offense we brought a Mario over here

1579
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 7: basically just to be a threat to take coverage away

1580
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 7: from this twenty five yard box that I'm speaking about. Now,

1581
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 7: we in the same predicament going into after Kansas City.

1582
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 7: I just don't want my man Brandon Bean to waste

1583
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 7: valuable capital to go and get a receiver right now

1584
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 7: based off the tutelage that we have now is not

1585
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 7: gonna be at least I don't need another prop and

1586
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 7: pay a third round pick and pay three million dollars.

1587
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 7: So put that on the side. Now, fire's Kansas City goes, Gentlemen,

1588
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 7: they're gonna blitz the crap out of us. Uh, Sparky

1589
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 7: gonna come at us, and he gonna he gonna bring

1590
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 7: everybody he got. You're gonna he's gonna put eight in

1591
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 7: the box. He's coming. I want my guy, the twenty

1592
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 7: twenty five year box man, My man, Joe Brady. You're

1593
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 7: still in the investigation, but you know I still love you.

1594
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 7: But I want you to understand about draw plays. I

1595
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 7: want you to understand about keeping cooking back to throwing

1596
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 7: more screens. Let me roll out throwing more screens. Slow

1597
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 7: that eight man front down. Now, what I would like

1598
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 7: you to do, since I just spoke about Keon Coleman,

1599
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 7: is I would like you to slide them inside, in

1600
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 7: the inside and maybe put Terrell Shaffers on the same

1601
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 7: side of them when out said, and let him be

1602
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 7: a decoy and rundown. Now you've got a big six

1603
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 7: to three receiver along with Team K in the middle

1604
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 7: where they can catch inside that box. It's gonna be

1605
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 7: a fight. Like Thurman said, it's a grind, and I

1606
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 7: respect my man T T T T said it just right.

1607
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 7: He said, Man, until we can.

1608
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 5: Beat him, we don't.

1609
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 7: We haven't done anything. But as we say and thanks

1610
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 7: for taking my cars. My last point is that we

1611
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 7: waited on the schedule. When we got the schedule, it

1612
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 7: was only two games that really really was important to us.

1613
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 7: It was Kansas City and it was Philadelphia. Right now,

1614
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 7: we waited all this time to play this team. I

1615
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 7: hope that that coaching staff is prepared properly to go

1616
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 7: out here and bring the best that we can. And Brownie,

1617
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get it to you. And remember this because

1618
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,759
Speaker 7: you said, what is going to be the Monday morning topic?

1619
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 7: The expressway is open? The cookies?

1620
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 2: All right, remembers appreciate that we're up against the break here.

1621
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you'll pick something you want to respond to that,

1622
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 3: or you just okay.

1623
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave it right there. But yeah, you could

1624
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 2: do everything you want. I think the thing you gotta

1625
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 2: be careful about is when you use condensed condensed sets

1626
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 2: and you have your receivers there tight to the formation,

1627
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 2: that's when Spags will send a corner because they're that

1628
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: much closer to the quarterback and they'll just blitz a guy.

1629
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 2: So you gotta be careful with those condensed formations because

1630
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 2: Spagnola will flip that to his advantage and blitz a guy,

1631
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 2: whether it's McDuffie or whoever else. They did that some

1632
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: last year, not only to the Bills, but a handful

1633
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 2: of other teams. So just something to be mindful of, right,

1634
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 2: You gotta be mindful of the unintended consequences, as Steve

1635
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 2: says all the time. Gotta take a break here to

1636
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: squeeze a phone calling when we get back on One

1637
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Stay with us all right, back here on

1638
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. You know, squeeze in a phone call

1639
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 2: here as we go to Cliff in Kentucky. What do

1640
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: you got for his Cliff?

1641
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 13: First of all, that Deon Walker interview yesterday was wonderful.

1642
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 13: Dion Walker played at Kentucky.

1643
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 7: Killed it.

1644
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 13: Here's killing it. They love it. Monday Morning headline. It

1645
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 13: is a total team effort. I think, you know, Josh

1646
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 13: is going to do a two touchdown games, but I

1647
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 13: think we're going to win the turnover battle. I see

1648
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 13: defense stepping up without a real run game threat. I

1649
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 13: think our defense can you know, come to the game

1650
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 13: ready prepared and special teams you know, have a better

1651
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 13: feel position than them. I'm really confident about the game

1652
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 13: that week, and love Gobils.

1653
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: All right, thanks clip. Glad you enjoyed that Dion Walker interview.

1654
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 2: He was great yesterday. I will say that last week

1655
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 2: was probably the first game in a few where we

1656
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 2: saw the complimentary football that coach McDermott demands, you know,

1657
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 2: one phase helping the other, et cetera, particularly defense and offense.

1658
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: Special teams. I still think would prefer to pull on

1659
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 2: the rope a little bit harder to provide some hidden

1660
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 2: yardage in the return game. Their cover teams were excellent,

1661
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 2: though kick coverage and punk coverage was excellent. Last week

1662
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 2: in Carolina, they didn't get anything in the return game

1663
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 2: the Panthers, so that area is good and we're gonna

1664
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: need to see that again because that Remihio kid can

1665
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 2: fly at eighty one. Who's their primary return man, so

1666
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to hem him in. But yeah, they

1667
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: do a nice job there. Our birdies out at practice

1668
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 2: have the following update. Not practicing today Daikwon Jones and

1669
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: Shaq Thompson. Shaq Thompson popped up on the injury report

1670
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 2: is limited yesterday and we assumed or presumed that he

1671
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: tweaked that hamstring in Wednesday's practice. That's probably the case

1672
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 2: because he's not practicing at all today. Uh and Daikwon

1673
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 2: Joe's still not back from the calf injury. Joshua Palmer

1674
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 2: did participate but was very limited, So we're anticipating a

1675
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 2: limited practice designation for him when the Thursday injury report

1676
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 2: comes out. But man, if he can get back do

1677
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 2: a little more tomorrow, play Sunday, that would be something.

1678
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 3: And you need to play and play well well.

1679
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 2: Right, he had an ankle. He had an ankle injury,

1680
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 2: So we'll see. Yep, we'll see.

1681
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 3: That's there's a lot going on. This is a you know,

1682
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 3: you comb through this and you watch every because.

1683
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 2: The tension is building. I'm just gonna say that everybody knows.

1684
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 3: The Chiefs know it too. But you've got a hit

1685
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,759
Speaker 3: on all cylinders to beat a team like the Chiefs

1686
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,719
Speaker 3: playing as well as they are now, coming in highly

1687
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 3: motivated to get back in their division race. The whole

1688
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 3: ninety yards. I mean, this is gonna be a really,

1689
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 3: really difficult game.

1690
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 2: And you you were with Dion said, sitting next to

1691
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: you yesterday, he said, Oh, there's a different intensity level

1692
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 2: here practice this week.

1693
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 3: They've ratcheted it up in this building. No doubt the

1694
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 3: Chiefs probably have as well. They know it too, so

1695
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 3: it's yeah, this is, this is these are the big ones,

1696
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 3: you know.

1697
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 2: Here we are, Oh, we're here, and it's only going

1698
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 2: to grow in intensely spent.

1699
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 3: Months looking forward to these games and now they're here,

1700
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:37,959
Speaker 3: and it makes you like nauseous.

1701
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, I mean I'm burning calories sitting

1702
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 2: still here, I know, just from pure nerves. And we're

1703
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 2: like seventy more than seventy two hours from the game.

1704
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 3: Another game, we'll be here.

1705
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 2: We'll do it all again tomorrow with the obl Friday

1706
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: fan mail Bag. Any questions you got, fire them off

1707
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 2: at us on Twitter at one Bill's Live we'll see

1708
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 2: it tomorrow. And one great Cosel