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Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 2: experience firsthand by Marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I

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Speaker 1: Here we come.

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Speaker 3: My guess she's on hole. I'm ready to introduce her.

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Speaker 3: My guess is Chief Judge Magistrate Cassandra Kirk. Over her career,

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Speaker 3: Judge Kirk spearheaded the creation of two accountability courts, Juvenile

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Speaker 3: Drug Court and Misdemeanor Mental Health Court. Her mission with

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Speaker 3: Magistrate courts to increase accessibility and create a court that informs,

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Speaker 3: engages and empowers our community. It's really important. Putting people

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Speaker 3: first requires a substantial change on how to court functions

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Speaker 3: and Judge kurkve have to tackle each obstacle. Please work

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Speaker 3: with the Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Chief judge Magistrate Cassandra Kirk.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, Judge?

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Speaker 4: I am wonderful. How are you today?

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Speaker 1: Well, I tell you right now your energy is up

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Speaker 1: there and I love it.

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Speaker 3: First of all, being a judge, I gotta you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, Judge Joe Brown, Judge Matthis, you know, Judge

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Speaker 3: mayber Leine. I've interviewed a lot of judges. They are

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Speaker 3: all celebrities. And the reason I have to ask this

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Speaker 3: question because you are a judge and.

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Speaker 1: People see things on TV.

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Speaker 3: Now do they come to do you have to deal

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Speaker 3: with that television judge atmosphere in your real courtrooms?

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Speaker 4: So I think people would like to believe they get

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Speaker 4: to behave the way people do on TV.

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 5: So I just think when.

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Speaker 4: You say do we have to deal with it? We

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Speaker 4: have an opportunity to help people understand that this is

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Speaker 4: not TV and it is real life.

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Speaker 3: When you say so, when you say that meaning that

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Speaker 3: there are people who come in there are quote acting

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Speaker 3: silly or acting like unprofessional and you have to check

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Speaker 3: them right or you know, hit the galvel a couple

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Speaker 3: of time and let them know you're in a real court.

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Speaker 3: There are no cameras in this room. If we're gonna

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Speaker 3: say cut, we're gonna go to We're gonna go to

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Speaker 3: out that door and go into jail. You have to

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Speaker 3: remind periodically. But it's not all the time.

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Speaker 4: Right, it is hardly ever, But every once in a

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Speaker 4: while people are a little more dramatic than they believe,

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Speaker 4: Like just real life needs the needs for them to be. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, you deal with We like people to be themselves.

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Speaker 4: We also like us to be able to conduct court

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Speaker 4: quarterly and in some manner of where people get some justice.

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Speaker 3: Now, this is an educational call for me. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: you have are you do you deal with small claims?

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Speaker 4: We do. That's in fifteen thousand. That's exactly one of

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Speaker 3: Okay, fifteen thousand, that's pretty fifty's that's a real small

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Speaker 3: claims number there. So if somebody has any any judgment

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Speaker 3: against somebody that's up to fifteen thousand, they can come

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Speaker 4: They absolutely can. They can file in our court. They

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Speaker 4: can represent themselves. We call them self represented litigans. They

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Speaker 4: can come look at our pamphlets, look at our videos,

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Speaker 4: come talk to our reach clinic attorney who will help

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Speaker 4: navigate them through the process. Absolutely, they can if they

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Speaker 4: cannot afford an attorney. We want them to be able

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Speaker 3: So so you're telling me that in small claims you

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Speaker 3: can have an attorney represent you.

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Speaker 4: You could if you had, Yes, if you had that

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Speaker 3: Out well at fifteen thousand dollars, I think that's that's

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Speaker 3: a that's a number right there. That means that you

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Speaker 3: a big number. My court that come from Houston, Texas,

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Speaker 3: I think I think when I went into small claim

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Speaker 1: You know, that was the most at the time, you know.

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Speaker 3: That was now, so when you say fifteen thousand dollars,

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Speaker 3: I'm going, wow, that's a huge number. And so so

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Speaker 3: you're telling me, Judge, and I'm really getting this when

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Speaker 3: I heard just clear because I want anybody. You say

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Speaker 4: So we have absolutely yes, they're absolutely. Didn't mean to

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Speaker 4: cut you off. We do. On our website magistr at

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Speaker 4: Fulton dot org, we have a section that is called

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Speaker 4: our Visual Information Center. People can find a couple of

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Speaker 4: I guess there are links to videos that tell them

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Speaker 4: what court is about, what's going to happen in that section.

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Speaker 4: And we have pamphlets so everyone's not a visual learner.

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Speaker 4: Some people need to read it for themselves. We've got

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Speaker 4: pamphlets and if you get to our website, we have

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Speaker 4: a chat box that's down at the bottom that will

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Speaker 4: help you navigate our website. We want to make it easy.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know the thing about it. You know, when

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Speaker 3: you're dealing with law. You know, I've had I've had tickets.

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Speaker 3: So I've had a couple of tickets where you know,

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Speaker 3: Do you deal with those? You know, when you go

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Speaker 6: We do not do traffic tickets, that's a different traffic

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Speaker 6: that's a different court, and so I apologize.

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Speaker 4: Yep, Nope, that's fine. It could either be City of

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Speaker 4: Atlanta or whatever the municipality is, traffic court, or it

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Speaker 4: could be a state court citation.

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Speaker 3: But it's not okay, cool, So let's get it down.

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Speaker 3: I gave you this title, Chief Judge Magistrate Cassandra Kirk.

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Speaker 3: What does the magistrate court.

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Speaker 4: Do absolutely, and so my title was chief magistrate judge anyway,

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Speaker 4: not just court. That's okay, not to court.

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Speaker 3: You change that right now because I don't want to

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Speaker 3: say that bad again, because you know you are a judge, okay.

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Speaker 4: But I am also a person that I'm good right,

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Speaker 4: I'm good with the factor. I got my first name

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Speaker 4: and my last name. I know who I am. So

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Speaker 4: we do criminal as well as civil, and I want

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Speaker 4: to talk on our criminal side. People might know the

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Speaker 4: first half of what we do. Kind of criminal, I say,

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Speaker 4: that's kind of our triage lane. So we do search

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Speaker 4: and arrest warrants twenty four seven, three sixty five. Then

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Speaker 4: we do warrants, then we do first appearance six days

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Speaker 4: a week. So that's kind of the criminal that everyone knows.

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Speaker 4: Us for the other parts of criminal that we do

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Speaker 4: our warrant applications, where citizens in the State of Georgia

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Speaker 4: can actually come in and say, hey, I believe that

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Speaker 4: someone has committed a crime against me and I want

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Speaker 4: to apply for a warrant. So this is not the

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Speaker 4: police officers applying for a warrant. This is citizen on

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Speaker 4: citizen applying for a warrant. So we have hearings for those.

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Speaker 4: We also do pla right judge.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you're telling me I can go in and

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Speaker 3: say and get somebody arrested. Apply, that's what you said.

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Speaker 4: You have some evidence. Apply, you have to have some

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Speaker 3: What is evidence? Pictures, injuries? What is evidence?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you need to be able to tell us that

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Speaker 4: it happened in the jurisdiction where we sit. So for us,

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Speaker 4: it would be somewhere in Fulton County that you have

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Speaker 4: the individual that it was committed against, that there is

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Speaker 4: a crime that has been committed and you can identify

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Speaker 4: the person that did it. And so if you have

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Speaker 4: those in some sort of form, it can be video,

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Speaker 4: it can be writing, it can be testimony of other people.

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Speaker 4: If you've got evidence, we will consider that evidence, make

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Speaker 4: then we will move forward with a warrant that means

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Speaker 4: that person may be taken to the jail if it

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Speaker 4: is a finger printable offense. So, yes, we do hearings

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Speaker 4: on that. Yeah, probably twice or three times a week.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that sounds I've heard of citizen's arrest.

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Speaker 1: Now that's different, right.

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Speaker 4: So this is not a citizen's arrest. The system does

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Speaker 4: not actually arrest the person. What the citizen does is

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Speaker 4: a hearing to see if they will be arrested. So

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Speaker 4: the citizen does not have the authority to grab somebody

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Speaker 4: and take them somewhere. That's not what this is.

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Speaker 3: This is a.

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Speaker 4: Due process hearing where people get noticed, you show up,

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Speaker 4: you can defend yourself or you can at least hear

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Speaker 3: Okay, I have this question that just came in. What's

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Speaker 3: the difference between filing a warrant and a police report?

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Speaker 4: So a police report, so there's two different things. The police.

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Speaker 4: The citizen warrant application process is citizen on citizen. There

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Speaker 4: to bring a police officer as a witness, but that's

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Speaker 4: not where If the police officer is filing it, they

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Speaker 4: are going directly to our electronic warrant system, So that's

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Speaker 4: our connection with the police officer. So that's different. The

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Speaker 4: filing of a police report has absolutely nothing, is not

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Speaker 4: really headed to us it's necessarily maybe something people are

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Speaker 4: to us. It can come to us as evidence if

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Speaker 4: someone gets it put in correctly, but not ordinarily like

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Speaker 4: that's not where they come. And if it's the police,

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Speaker 4: support is probably going through the electronic warrant through the

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Speaker 4: regular system. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: It makes sense because, like I said, the whole world

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Speaker 3: so you are elected official, Okay, how does that process work?

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Speaker 3: And let me ask you this, if you're an elected official,

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Speaker 3: how does that? How does that you know? The judicial

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Speaker 3: system because you're supposed to be impartial, how does that work?

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Speaker 3: You know, in being that you're seeking elections? Are you

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to make sure I'm not saying anything wrong,

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Speaker 3: but it seems like it seemed like the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 3: you know, they're there for life and so they're put

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Speaker 3: in the position to not be tainted. Of course, we've

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Speaker 3: heard a lot of room was about Judge Clarence Thomas

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Speaker 3: and what he doing was so he may be bringing

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Speaker 3: a lot of rules, but we can't remove him in

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Speaker 3: your case, you have to get out there and as

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Speaker 3: they say, rally, the votes correct.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, And so I was appointed in twenty fourteen

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Speaker 4: by Governor Nathan Dial and that gave me a four

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Speaker 4: to run for reelection. And you are correct. It is

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Speaker 4: a matter of being in the community and asking for votes,

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Speaker 4: not just asking for votes, but also asking for money,

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Speaker 4: support endorsements of the very same people that may come

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Speaker 4: before the court.

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Speaker 1: Cannot make any I'm sorry for laugh at bit.

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Speaker 3: That sounded really funny. You know, you know people out

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Speaker 3: to you asking for money. Next day, you know, he's

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Speaker 3: sing in front of your court. Now has that happened?

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Speaker 3: I've just got to ask that question. Has that happened?

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Speaker 4: So it has not happened to me. I do know

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Speaker 4: that in Georgia there are certain classes of courts where

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Speaker 4: there are where the judges are elected. So not all

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Speaker 4: the judges in Georgia are elected. Our Supreme Court is elected,

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Speaker 3: Wow, I'm talking to Keith Magistrate Judge Cassandra Kirk. I

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Speaker 4: Thanks Donald, Yes, sir, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: My questions always been about the reality of the legal system,

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Speaker 4: us do more, judges and staff that want to help

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know, you know, if I ever

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Speaker 3: wonder why you have been re elected, you you told

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Speaker 3: this world that we live in, it is such a

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Speaker 3: rise in this country, not to the level that shut

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Speaker 1: It still is a problem.

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Speaker 3: And but you are like, hey, with Sean, I will

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Speaker 3: a way, that's really not giving the person the fair justice,

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Speaker 3: you know, because it's a little bitty screen. You know,

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Speaker 3: body language, all those things can play negatively on a

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Speaker 3: little bitty screen because the person is disconnected too, because

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Speaker 3: they're looking at a camera and it can't even really

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Speaker 3: see you could look at the camera, look over there,

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Speaker 3: see a monitor. So that way of justice is never

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Speaker 3: going to work for anybody. But when you navigate through

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Speaker 3: the system, and you talk about community's systems, let's talk

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Speaker 3: about it. As we wrap up this interview, we probably

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Speaker 3: say that inform engage and empower our community. Is it

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Speaker 3: engaging through information? Is it informing with information and empowering

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Speaker 4: So inform the first part of that is making sure

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Speaker 4: for each of the case types that we have something,

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Speaker 4: and it is mainly our website. The first thing I

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Speaker 4: to create our website. It has gone through several iterations

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Speaker 4: now thanks to grants from the National Center for State Courts,

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Speaker 4: but our website is the first past for anybody that

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Speaker 4: wants to know what's happening on our court. We have

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Speaker 4: frequently asked questions we have what this case type is

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Speaker 4: and again I mentioned the videos, the Visual Information Center.

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Speaker 4: We have a newsletter that we put out, but it

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Speaker 4: is the first part is the informing people what it is,

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Speaker 4: and then the engage. We are on social media. We

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Speaker 4: are on Facebook, we are on Instagram. We want to

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Speaker 4: be on those places where people are looking for information.

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Speaker 4: We are there right. We want to bring our information

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Speaker 4: to people where they are. And then the empowers making

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Speaker 4: sure that people have what they need in order to

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Speaker 4: operate our systems. It is all for us about exactly that, informing,

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Speaker 4: engaging and empowering our community, and that is the whole

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Speaker 4: community of Fulton County, North, Fulton, South, Fulton, East West,

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Speaker 4: the whole. I want to make sure that we give

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Speaker 4: that we also have a really great collaboration. We have

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Speaker 4: doctor Rashad Ritchie who basically supports our pays for lunch

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Speaker 4: for our bang the Gavel kids. That's the thing that

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Speaker 4: his show does. We've got other community people that say, hey,

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Speaker 4: for Community p SE Nathaniel Smith's group that provided us

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Speaker 4: a place to hold weddings. This time we've had all

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Speaker 4: the event center that has provided us space for holding

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Speaker 4: weddings on Valentine's Day, and so like when the community says.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I've got space.

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Speaker 4: You come there, it means a lot for us.

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Speaker 3: Judge Kurk, I want to thank you for coming on

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Speaker 3: the show. You're fantastic and you're pronounce a pronunciation of

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Speaker 3: how this community can work for us all people of color,

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Speaker 3: African American people.

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Speaker 1: People are not people of color. This discord is for the.

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Speaker 3: People, and I want to appreciate you for educating me,

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Speaker 3: having fun with me and also with my little levity moments,

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Speaker 3: and most importantly, you know, keep doing what you're doing

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Speaker 3: and don't change is important.

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Speaker 4: It is my honor to join you. Thank you for

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Speaker 4: having me and.

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Speaker 3: Welcome and you will definitely be back because I need

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Speaker 3: education and my audience needs to hear your voice.

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Speaker 1: Keep winning.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is Rushawn McDonald and you're listening to Money

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