1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversations. It's to show that she 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,079 Speaker 1: is the secrets of success experience firsthand by Marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. And in case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm not broke. You know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision make because it's what he likes 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: to do, it's what he likes to share. Now it's 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money making Conversations. 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: Here we go. 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: My guess she's on hole. I'm ready to introduce her. 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: My guess is Chief Judge Magistrate Cassandra Kirk. Over her career, 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: Judge Kirk spearheaded the creation of two accountability courts, Juvenile 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: Drug Court and Misdemeanor Mental Health Court. Her mission with 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: Magistrate courts to increase accessibility and create a court that informs, 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: engages and empowers our community. It's really important. Putting people 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: first requires a substantial change on how to court functions 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: and Judge Kurkrive have to tackle each obstacle. Please work 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: with the Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Chief judge Magistrate Cassandra Kirk. 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: How you doing, Judge? 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 4: I am wonderful. How are you today? 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: Well, I tell you right now your energy is up 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: there and I love it. First of all, being a judge, 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: I gotta you know, you know, Judge Joe Brown, Judge Matthis, 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: you know, Judge May beer Leine. I've interviewed a lot 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: of judges. They are all celebrities. And the reason I 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: have to ask this question because you are a judge 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: and people see things on TV. Now do they come 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: to do you have to deal with that television judge 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: atmosphere in your real courtrooms? 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 4: So I think people would like to believe they get 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: to behave the way people do on TV. They don't. 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: So I just think when you say do we have 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: to deal with it? We have an opportunity to help 34 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: people understand that this is not TV and it is 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 4: real life. 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: When you say so, when you say that meaning that 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 3: there are people who come in there are quote acting 38 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: silly or acting like unprofessional and you have to check 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: them right or you know, hit the galvel a couple 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: of time and let them know you're in a real court. 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: There are no cameras in this room. If we're gonna 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 3: say cut, we're gonna go to We're gonna go to 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 3: out that door and go into jail. You have to 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: remind periodically. But it's not all the time. 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 4: Right, it is hardly ever, But every once in a 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: while people are a little more dramatic than they believe, 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: Like just real life needs the needs for them to be. So, yeah, 48 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: you know, you deal with We like people to be themselves. 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: We also like us to be able to conduct court 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: quarterly and in some manner of where people get some justice. 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: Now, this is an educational call for me. Okay, okay, okay, 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: you have are you do you deal with small claims? 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 4: We do. That's in fifteen thousand. That's exactly one of 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: our sweet spots. 55 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: Okay, fifteen thousand, that's pretty fifty's that's a real small 56 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 3: claims number there. So if somebody has any any judgment 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: against somebody that's up to fifteen thousand, they can come 58 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: into your court. 59 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: They absolutely can. They can file in our court. They 60 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: can represent themselves. We call them self represented litigans. They 61 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: can come look at our pamphlets, look at our videos, 62 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: come talk to our reach clinic attorney who will help 63 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: navigate them through the process. Absolutely, they can if they 64 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: cannot afford an attorney. We want them to be able 65 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: to represent themselves. 66 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: So so you're telling me that in small claims you 67 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: can have an attorney represent you. 68 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: You could if you had, Yes, if you had that 69 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: kind of money you. 70 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 3: Out well at fifteen thousand dollars, I think that's that's 71 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: a that's a number right there. That means that you 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: can bring somebody in to talk for you, because that's 73 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: a big number. My court that come from Houston, Texas, 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: I think I think when I went into small claim 75 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: it stopped at maybe five thousand dollars. You know, that 76 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: was the most at the time, you know that was now, 77 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: so when you say fifteen thousand dollars, I'm going, wow, 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: that's a huge number. And so so you're telling me, Judge, 79 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: and I'm really getting this when I heard just clar 80 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: because I want anybody. You say you have videotapes of 81 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: videos that people can watch that can help them. 82 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: So we have absolutely yes, they're absolutely. Didn't mean to 83 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: cut you off. We do. On our website magistr at 84 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: Fulton dot org, we have a section that is called 85 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: our Visual Information Center. People can find a couple of 86 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: things on that they can find videos that actually, oh, 87 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: I guess, there are links to videos that tell them 88 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 4: what court is about, what's going to happen in that section. 89 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: And we have pamphlets so everyone's not a visual learner. 90 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: Some people need to read it for themselves. We've got 91 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: pamphlets and if you get to our website, we have 92 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: a chat box that's down at the bottom that will 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 4: help you navigate our website. We want to make it easy. 94 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: Well, you know the thing about it. You know, when 95 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: you're dealing with law. You know, I've had I've had tickets. 96 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: So I've had a couple of tickets where you know, 97 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: I failed O and I shouldn't have not gotten a ticket. 98 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: Do you deal with those? You know, when you go 99 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: in and say. 100 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 5: We do not do traffic tickets, that's a different traffic 101 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 5: that's a different court, and so I apologize. 102 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: Yep, Nope, that's fine. It could either be City of 103 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 4: Atlanta or whatever the municipality is traffic court, or it 104 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: could be a state court citation. 105 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: But it's not okay, cool, So let's get it down. 106 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: I gave you this title, Chief Judge Magistrate Cassandra Kirk. 107 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: What does the magistrate court. 108 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: Do absolutely, and so my title was chief magistrate judge anyway, 109 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: not just court. That's okay, not to court. 110 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: You change that right now because I don't want to 111 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: say that bad again, because you know you are a judge, okay. 112 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: But I am also a person that I'm good right, 113 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 4: I'm good with the factor. I got my first name 114 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: and my last name. I know who I am. So 115 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: we do criminal as well as civil, and I want 116 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 4: to talk on our criminal side. People might know the 117 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: first half of what we do. Kind of criminal, I say, 118 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 4: that's kind of our triage lane. So we do search 119 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: and arrest warrants twenty four seven, three sixty five. Then 120 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 4: we do warrants, then we do first appearance six days 121 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 4: a week. So that's kind of the criminal that everyone knows. 122 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: Us for the other parts of criminal that we do 123 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: our warrant applications, where citizens in the State of Georgia 124 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: can actually come in and say, hey, I believe that 125 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 4: someone has committed a crime against me and I want 126 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 4: to apply for a warrant. So this is not the 127 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 4: police officers applying for a warrant. This is citizen on 128 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 4: citizen applying for a warrant. So we have hearings for those. 129 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: We also do pla right judge. 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so you're telling me I can go in and 131 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: say and get somebody arrested. Apply, that's what you said. 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: You have some evidence. Apply, you have to have some 133 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 4: basic information. 134 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 3: What is evidence? Pictures, injuries? What is evidence? 135 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you need to be able to tell us that 136 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 4: it happened in the jurisdiction where we fit. So for us, 137 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 4: it would be somewhere in Fulton County that you have 138 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 4: the individual that it was committed against, that there is 139 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 4: a crime that has been committed and you can identify 140 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: the person that did it. And so if you have 141 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: those in some sort of form, it can be video, 142 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: it can be writing, it can be testimony of other people. 143 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 4: If you've got evidence, we will consider that evidence, make 144 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 4: a determination whether there is probable cause to believe that 145 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: the individual you are accusing actually did that offense, and 146 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: then we will move forward with a warrant that means 147 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: that person may be taken to the jail if it 148 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: is a finger printable offense. So, yes, we do hearings 149 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 4: on that. Yeah, probably twice or three times a week. 150 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: Wow, that sounds I've heard of citizen's arrest. Now that's different, right. 151 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: So this is not a citizen's arrest. The system does 152 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: not actually arrest the person. What the citizen does is 153 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: come and file an application for the individual to have 154 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: a hearing to see if they will be arrested. So 155 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: the citizen does not have the authority to grab somebody 156 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: and take them somewhere. That's not what this is. 157 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: This is a. 158 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: Due process hearing where people get noticed, you show up, 159 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: you can defend yourself or you can at least hear 160 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: the evidence against you before an arrest warrant is issued. 161 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: Okay, I have this question that just came in. What's 162 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 3: the difference between filing a warrant and a police report? 163 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: So a police report, so there's two different things. The police. 164 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 4: The citizen warrant application process is citizen on citizen. There 165 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: are no police officers involved. Generally you may be able 166 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: to bring a police officer as a witness, but that's 167 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 4: not where If the police officer is filing it, they 168 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 4: are going directly to our electronic warrant system, So that's 169 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: our connection with the police officer. So that's different. The 170 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: filing of a police report has absolutely nothing, is not 171 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: really headed to us it's necessarily maybe something people are 172 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: doing for their runs or something, but that's not necessarily 173 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: coming to us. It can come to us as evidence 174 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: if someone gets it put in correctly, but not ordinarily 175 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 4: like that's not where they come. And if it's the police, 176 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: support is probably going through the electronic warrant through the 177 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: regular system. Does that make sense? 178 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: It makes sense because, like I said, the whole world 179 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: of you know, the judicial system because you are an 180 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: elected official, you know, because yeah, I always just think 181 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 3: a right, So you are elected official? Okay, how does 182 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: that process work? And let me ask you this, if 183 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: you're an elected official, how does that? How does that 184 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: you know? The judicial system because you're supposed to be impartial, 185 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: how does that work? You know, in being that you're 186 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: seeking elections? Are you I'm just trying to make sure 187 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything wrong, but it seems like it 188 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: seemed like the Supreme Court, you know, they're there for 189 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: life and so they're put in the position to not 190 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: be tainted. Of course, we've heard a lot of room 191 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: was about Judge Clarence Thomas and what he doing was 192 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: so he may be bringing a lot of rules, but 193 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: we can't remove him in your case. You have to 194 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: get out there and as they say, rally the votes correct. 195 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, And so I was appointed in twenty fourteen 196 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: by Governor Nathan Dial and that gave me a four 197 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 4: year term. In twenty eighteen I had to actually run 198 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 4: for election, and then in twenty twenty two I had 199 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: to run for re election. And you are correct. It 200 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: is a matter of being in the community and asking 201 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 4: for votes, not just asking for votes, but also asking 202 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: for money, support, endorsements of the very same people that 203 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: may come before the court. 204 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: Cannot make any I'm sorry for laugh at bit. That 205 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: sounded really funny. You know, you know people out there 206 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: you asking for money. Next day, you know, he's sing 207 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: in front of your court. Now has that happened? I've 208 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: just got to ask that question. Has that happened? 209 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 4: So it has not happened to me. I do know 210 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: that in Georgia there are certain classes of courts where 211 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 4: there are where the judges are elected. So not all 212 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: the judges in Georgia are elected. Our Supreme Court is elected, 213 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 4: our Court of Appeals is elected, Our Superior Court judges 214 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: are elected, our Court of what is it? Our State 215 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: court judges are elected, our Chief magistrate judges are elected, 216 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 4: and then we in turn a point. However, many judges 217 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: are circuit sustains and so Enfulton for me, that's thirty judges. 218 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: I get to a point. Municipal court judges are appointed 219 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 4: in at city of Atlanta through a retention election. In 220 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: other cities there's a different formula. So it just really 221 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 4: depends on what type of judge you are for the state. 222 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: But you're correct. Our federal judges are appointed for life 223 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,119 Speaker 4: up and down the state, up and down the jurisdiction, 224 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 4: and so they don't they missed that piece of the fund. 225 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you this. So I got it 226 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: because you got me diving in. I came off with 227 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: a little levity talking about you know, I never interviewed 228 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: a real judge. I've only interviewed celebrity judges and all 229 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: these things. But the reality is the court system is important, 230 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: and it's important to understand you going in there and 231 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: getting the right justice that you deserve. Now doing COVID. 232 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: During COVID, we all I had a couple of cases 233 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: that got just pushed off and just got pushed off. 234 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: And then because you delaying justice or delaying relief, because 235 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: I wasn't going to court because I wanted to go 236 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: to court. We're going to court to try to get 237 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: a remedy, to get money to recover. How did that 238 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: impact your judicial environment trying to you know, get people 239 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: in because it was you via zoom all the time? 240 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: How did that work? 241 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: So COVID was a unique situation. COVID was probably one 242 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: of the rare situations where our state Supreme Court as 243 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: well as the Governor, stepped in and basically said, look, 244 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: we're in a state wide judicial emergency. We are going 245 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 4: to ask everyone not to bring people in the courts. 246 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: Not something where you can get some you can get 247 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 4: a summons and kind of decide not to come, right, 248 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: we send people with guns to bring you if you 249 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: choose not to come. And so that gave everyone an 250 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 4: opportunity probably three months to figure out how we were 251 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: going to be able to come back. And so when 252 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: Fulton County and the Magistrate Court and most of the 253 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: courts in Fulton County, what we did was we started 254 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 4: having court on zoom. We had court on zoom until wow, 255 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: there are we are still having some courts on zoom. 256 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: I can tell you that from January one, twenty nineteen 257 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: until I have numbers from October third, twenty twenty three, 258 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: we had over three hundred and twenty eight thousand cases 259 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: filed in the Magistrate Court of Fulton County. As of 260 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: October third, which was a month ago, we had closed 261 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: two hundred and ninety thousand of those cases. So we 262 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: have been working in person as well as on Zoom. 263 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 4: Those cases that are not hearings, we've been working on 264 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 4: Zoom so that we can actually get more of our 265 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: cases closed and have people continue to be safe. So 266 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 4: right now what we are looking at is whether or 267 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 4: not that next wave of COVID is going to cause 268 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: us to again return to all calendars on Zoom. And 269 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 4: for me and I just really want to be able 270 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: to see people when they're in court. I don't really 271 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 4: want to see people on the screen. It's hard to 272 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 4: judge credibility, it's hard to judge it's just kind of 273 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: hard to judge what people are telling you looking at 274 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: a screen. Right And so it is my desire of 275 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: my passion that our court have all of our hearings, 276 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 4: all trials actually on in person. I think it gives 277 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: everyone a better sense of what's going on, and it 278 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: lets people truly be heard. 279 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm talking to Keith Magistrate Judge Cassandra Kirk. I 280 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: got it correct right, because you we're not going to 281 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: do judges. Come look look after me. 282 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: Thanks Donald, Yes, sir, thank you very much. 283 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: When we come back, I want to appreciate you. We'll 284 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: come back. I want to hear more about your model informs, 285 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: engages and empower. We're speaking to Chief Magistrate Judge Cassandra 286 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: Kirk and you're listening to Money Making Conversation master Class 287 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: and we'll be right back. 288 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 289 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: with Rashawn McDonald. You are now tuned into the Money 290 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: Making Conversations. 291 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: Minute of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald. 292 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: Jermaine DePriest a hit maker, songwriter, rapper, entrepreneur, record executive 293 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: DJ and we're always having an opinion about music, but 294 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: we discussed making mailbox money during the pandemic. 295 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 5: COVID hit and that's where the tension went and went 296 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: straight to my mailbox. That's what I am. I'm a 297 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 5: songwriter that's written songs that goes to the mailbox and 298 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 5: picks up that that mailbox check every month or every whatever. Comes. 299 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 5: You know, you don't know, you know, you don't know 300 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 5: how frequent it is. But if you write enough records 301 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 5: and you write enough hit records, that check is definitely there. 302 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 5: And it's another one that comes right after that, and 303 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 5: it's another one comes right after that. And I think, 304 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 5: for the first time in my career, this is the 305 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 5: first time that I actually paid attention to that because 306 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: I always was getting money so many multiple places. 307 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: If you want to hear this full interview with Jermaine dupri, 308 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: visit money Making Conversation dot com. 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More information is available at HBCU 316 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 6: College day dot com. 317 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashaun 318 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: McDonald on the phone. 319 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: She's still here. My questions always been about the reality 320 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 3: of the legal system because the legal system. Judge Kurk 321 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: always gets a bad rap. It also has to deal 322 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: with what people see on TV where there's Law and 323 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: Order and all these different judge shows and all hell 324 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: and these things. So does that And I kind of 325 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: start off a little bit early a part of it 326 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: talking about the you know, the court judges, the small 327 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 3: claims court judges, that the will popularize it, but it's 328 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 3: still the judicial system kind of gets plagiarized. Can I 329 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 3: say their word a lot by film and television? Correct? 330 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: I say they make comparisons. 331 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, Now does that frustrate you or it 332 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: doesn't bother you at all this part of the. 333 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 4: Process, not at all, Not at all. And so I 334 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: would say I would hope that it brings in more 335 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: people to the profession. And I think it makes it 336 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 4: kind of accessible for people to say, like, if this 337 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: person can do this, certainly I can do it. And 338 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: so I would hope that it brings more people into 339 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 4: the profession. 340 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: In reason, I say that I brought that up because 341 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: your mission is to increase accessibility. When you use the 342 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: words accessibility to the court system, what is that? Because 343 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 3: let's be real, from the minority community, the judicial system, 344 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: the police system has always been a red flag that 345 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: we walk in there we are not. I will tell 346 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: you my good friend, my good friend, Benjamin Crump, He's 347 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,239 Speaker 3: always told me this, Weshan, if you sit in the 348 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: back room of the court, you will see two legal systems, 349 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 3: and one for people of color is not the same 350 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: as people who are not. And that has always been 351 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: the disturbing motto that has been in our community, people 352 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: of color, especially African Americans. That's something you've been an 353 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: African American judge, have to deal with. How do you 354 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: deal with that? 355 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 4: So the great way that I deal with that is 356 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 4: when I first came. So this court was created in 357 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 4: twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen by the state legislature. So this 358 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: court is a brand new court. And so the good 359 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 4: thing is that means that I get to set the 360 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 4: policy for this court. I get to set how it 361 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 4: is we interact with the community. And I have an 362 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: amazing group of judges that work with me and all 363 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 4: believe in giving back, Like that's kind of how you 364 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: get to be on our bench. It's not that you 365 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 4: are a wonderful, fantastic legal mind, and many of them are, 366 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 4: but it is also that they are connected to the 367 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 4: communities that we serve. And so when I first started, 368 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 4: I told you about the things that magistic Court is 369 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: required to do. I talk to you about those case types, 370 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: but there are the things that Magistate Court in Fulton 371 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: County gets to do, so the things where we get 372 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: to connect to our community. We have a Misdemeanor Mental 373 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 4: Health Court which gives those individuals with misdemeanors and opportunity. 374 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 4: And that's with other justice agencies, with our solicitor, with 375 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 4: our public defender, with our behavioral health that gives us 376 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 4: an opportunity to give those individuals with misdemeanors and that 377 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 4: have mental health just a little collateral support so they 378 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 4: are not dropped backed down on the street hoping that 379 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 4: they don't pick up a new charge. We have created 380 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 4: a Reach Clinic Rapid Education Assistance Court Help Clinic. It's 381 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: a consumer clinic that provides small claims, garnishment and warrant 382 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: application assistance for individuals coming in. Because remember our court 383 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: is a court where there are a lot of self 384 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 4: represented litigants. I believe people ought to be empowered with 385 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 4: information in order to be able to move their cases. 386 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 4: So we have a senior staff attorney that helps people navigate. 387 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: We have law students that are volunteering in that clinic. 388 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 4: We are going to open it up to the public 389 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: to help us just kind of deal with the volume. 390 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: But that is one of the things. One of the 391 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 4: other things we are doing is our Magistrate Court one 392 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 4: oh one, where we are actually going and bringing our 393 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: court into the community and teaching with the library systems support. 394 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 4: We are teaching in our local libraries about sorry about 395 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: small claims, about garnishment, and about our warrant application cases 396 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: we have and we've been working with the Atlanta Volunteer 397 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 4: Lawyers Foundation to make sure that there is a tenant 398 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 4: clinic on site for those individuals that have landlord tenant matters. 399 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 4: The landlord tenant cases are cases that move in about 400 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: seven days. You have seven days from the time you 401 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: are served to file an answer. That's a fast moving 402 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 4: piece of the law. And Atlanta Volunteer Lawyers Foundation has 403 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: decided to come on site. They've been with us now 404 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: probably for about five or six years, and they provide 405 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 4: that service free again, a navigation service for individuals. Our 406 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 4: court has an intern program. We have always had interns 407 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: and we are thankful because we are slightly understaffed. But 408 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: we do interns, externs, we do high school, high school, college, 409 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 4: law school. We've got them all. What else do we 410 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 4: get to do. We get to do free weddings, right, 411 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 4: So we do free weddings on Valentine's Day, We do 412 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 4: free weddings on the holidays, but we also do free 413 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 4: weddings every other Thursday, and there is the joy. We 414 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: have a new program that is called Bang the Gavel, 415 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 4: a court day lunch and learn program, and we have 416 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 4: done that starting in March, where we have invited high 417 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 4: school students into our court to interact with our judges, 418 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: to observe court, to have lunch with us. So they 419 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: get to meet our judges, but they also get to 420 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 4: have that spark of look, it's she or he can 421 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 4: do it. I can do it too. And so these 422 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: last two groups that we've had, we just had a 423 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: group of young men that came that were with us 424 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 4: through the Department of Juvenile Justice, and one of them said, like, 425 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 4: once he came up and started doing the mock trial 426 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: portion of it, he was brilliant. Everybody was just absolutely 427 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 4: taken aback. And he said this was something that I 428 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: wanted to do, but I didn't know. I just didn't 429 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: know if I could keep doing it. And so that 430 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 4: was somebody we were able to encourage. And I hope 431 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 4: that that is what we will continue doing. So I 432 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 4: know that was a long way, but so we do 433 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: what we are required to do. But I am thankful 434 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: and grateful that I have judges that want to help 435 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: us do more, judges and staff that want to help 436 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: us do more than just the basics. 437 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know, you know, if I ever 438 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: wonder why you have been re elected, you you told 439 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 3: me right there, you know, articulate, you have a point 440 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 3: of view, and that's all important. And I think they 441 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: never and you have a sense of humor because in 442 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 3: this world that we live in, it is such a 443 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 3: you know, like you brought up COVID, you know, and 444 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: and a lot of people think COVID is gone, and 445 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: COVID is is, like they've said, has been on the 446 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: rise in this country, not to the level that shut 447 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: down this country, but it still is a problem. And 448 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: but you are like, hey, with Sean, I will prefer 449 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: not to go into the zoom world because in a way, 450 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 3: that's really not giving the person the fair justice, you know, 451 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: because it's a little bitty screen. You know, body language, 452 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: all those things can play negatively on a little bitty 453 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: screen because the person is disconnected too, because they're looking 454 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: at a camera and it can't even really see you 455 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: could look at the camera, look over there, see a monitor. 456 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: So that way of justice is never going to work 457 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: for anybody. But when you navigate through the system, and 458 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: you talk about community's systems, let's talk about it. As 459 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: we wrap up this interview, we probably say that inform 460 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: engage and empower our community. Is it engaging through information? 461 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 3: Is it informing with information and empowering them through results? 462 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 3: What does inform engage and empower? 463 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 4: So inform the first part of that is making sure 464 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: for each of the case types that we have something, 465 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: and it is mainly our website. The first thing I 466 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 4: did when I came on board in twenty fourteen was 467 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: to create our website. It has gone through several iterations 468 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 4: now thanks to grants from the National Center for State Courts, 469 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 4: but our website is the first past for anybody that 470 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: wants to know what's happening on our court. We have 471 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: frequently asked questions we have what this case type is 472 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 4: and again I mentioned the videos, the Visual Information Center. 473 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 4: We have a newsletter that we put out, but it 474 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 4: is the first part is the informing people what it is, 475 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 4: and then the engage. We are on social media. We 476 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 4: are on Facebook, we are on Instagram. We want to 477 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 4: be on those places where people are looking for information. 478 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: We are there right. We want to bring our information 479 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 4: to people where they are. And then the empowers making 480 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: sure that people have what they need in order to 481 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 4: operate our systems. It is all for us about exactly that, informing, 482 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 4: engaging and empowering our community, and that is the whole 483 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: community of Fulton County, North, Fulton, South, Fulton, East West, 484 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 4: the whole. I want to make sure that we give 485 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: everybody what they need, and so I have to say 486 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 4: that we also have a really great collaboration. We have 487 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 4: doctor Rashad Ritchie who basically supports our pays for lunch 488 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: for our bang the Gavel kids. That's the thing that 489 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: his show does. We've got other community people that say, hey, 490 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 4: how can I help. We had Partnership for Community Partnership 491 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 4: for Community p SE Nathaniel Smith's group that provided us 492 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 4: a place to hold weddings. This time we've had all 493 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: the event center that has provided us space for holding 494 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 4: weddings on Valentine's Day, and so like when the community says, hey, 495 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 4: I've got space, you come there, it means a lot 496 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 4: for us. 497 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: Judge Kurk, I want to thank you for coming on 498 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: the show. You're fantastic and you're pronounce a pronunciation of 499 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: how this community can work for us all people of color, 500 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: African American people. People are not people of color. This 501 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 3: discord is for the people, and I want to appreciate 502 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: you for educating me, having fun with me and also 503 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: with my little levity moments, and most importantly, you know, 504 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: keep doing what you're doing and don't change is important. 505 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 4: It is my honor to join you. Thank you for 506 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: having me and welcome. 507 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: And you will definitely be back because I need education 508 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: and my audience needs to hear your voice. Keep winning. Okay, 509 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: this is Rushaw McDonald and you're listening to Money Making 510 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 3: Conversation Magic Class. 511 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: Let me tell you about the host of Money Making Conversations, 512 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: Rushan McDonald. Rushan's a two time Emmy Award winner, three 513 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: time naacp Immage Award winner, sitcom writer, stand up comic, 514 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: and former IBM executive. Thank you for joining us for 515 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 2: this edition of Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Money Making Conversations 516 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: Masterclass with Rushan MacDonald is produced by thirty eight to 517 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: fifteen Media Inc. 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