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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh, good morning everybody.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're having a fantastic day already.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say one thing.

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Speaker 2: At the beginning of the show, super Bowl fifty eight

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Speaker 2: next Sunday, we are a week away and there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of prop bets, a lot of them. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into the nuts and bolts of Deebo Samuel's receiving yardage.

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Speaker 1: Over under, but I love the off the wall props.

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Speaker 2: There's a prop being discussed will Usher be wearing sunglasses

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Speaker 2: at any point during his halftime performance.

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Speaker 1: If Usher is not.

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Speaker 2: Wearing sunglasses during his halftime performance at any point, I

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Speaker 2: quit betting. I am quitting. I'm walking away altogether. There's

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Speaker 2: no chance this guy at some point is not wearing sunglasses.

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Speaker 3: Right, I see you know what you are luring us

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Speaker 3: all down that path, Brian. I mean, this is this

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Speaker 3: is how, this is how gangs of people lose tons

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Speaker 3: of money, right, because you start a sentence, any sense,

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Speaker 3: any sentence in the betting world with there is no

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Speaker 3: way that dot dot dot, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: everybody goes, you know what, Bo has got a good

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Speaker 3: point here, I mean Usher and sunglasses really do seem synonymous.

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Speaker 4: But who knows, I mean Usher, how old is he is?

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Speaker 4: He fifty? I don't know. I'm losing track of time myself.

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Speaker 5: I gotta be in his forties. So the funny thing

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Speaker 5: about Usher, he's actually kind of like the King of

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Speaker 5: Vegas right now. He just did I think it's like

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Speaker 5: a six month residency in Vegas. So there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of game film on Usher. If you want to go

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Speaker 5: watch how he's performed in Vegas over the last few months,

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Speaker 5: go check out some of those right, Like I remember

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Speaker 5: a few years ago, people are always trying to get

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Speaker 5: get to the stadium for the National Anthem, you know,

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Speaker 5: not the tryouts, but like the sound tests that they

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Speaker 5: have to try to time to see how long the

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Speaker 5: you know, the just the basic practice runs go so

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Speaker 5: they could figure out if they want to bet over

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Speaker 5: or under, because that's another I think the two most

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Speaker 5: popular weird props that people bet on are the National Anthem,

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Speaker 5: the time of It, and the coin Toss. The coin toss,

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Speaker 5: you would think people knew that it was like a

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Speaker 5: double sided coin. That is how many people bet on

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Speaker 5: the coin toss every year, it is insane. And the

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Speaker 5: I love seeing, like when I'm in a sportsbook for

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. Doesn't happen often, but if I am

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Speaker 5: the eruption when they toss the coin like it's like

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Speaker 5: someone already won the game. It really is wild, the

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Speaker 5: props and just the crazy stuff people bet on for

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Speaker 5: these games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of what was it Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: forty eight right where it was the Seahawks and the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: It was at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, They're in New Jersey, was going to be cold,

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Speaker 2: and the Chili Peppers were performing along with Bruno Mars

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Speaker 2: And there was a prop bet will the Chili Peppers

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Speaker 2: be shirtless? And I'm like, they're the Chili Peppers. I

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Speaker 2: don't care what the temperature is, that they're going to

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Speaker 2: be shirtless. That's how I think of Usher. He's kind

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Speaker 2: of be rocking shades at some point.

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Speaker 4: It was just by the way, okay, okay, So yeah.

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Speaker 3: The reason why I brought up his age earlier is

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Speaker 3: because you know what happens if you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: forty five years old, he has an appointment with his

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Speaker 3: ophthalmologist or his optometrist, you know, somebody who's taking care

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Speaker 3: of Usher's eyes goes, hey, look, you know, buddy, I know,

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Speaker 3: I know you you'll you love wearing the shades. But

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Speaker 3: you remember back in two thousand and six that pyrotechnic

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Speaker 3: situation where the bright lights, you know, you know, we

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Speaker 3: gotta stay away from the sunglasses because that changed your

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Speaker 4: And Usher goes, yeah, doc, I got you, like, and

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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you know, we lose because Briano.

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Speaker 6: Said, there is no way that dot dot dot Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's I wonder how many times these performers get a

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Speaker 6: wrong proposition?

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Speaker 2: You know, how many times does the eye doctor say, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know us sure I can make a boatload of

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Speaker 1: You know, like how many times that happened?

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Speaker 2: So we've got chiefs and forty nine ers will definitely

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Speaker 2: be talking about that throughout the show today. But a

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Speaker 2: little step backward, right, we look back to how did

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Speaker 2: we get here? And you had both the Ravens and

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Speaker 2: the Lions turn in very disappointing performances during Championship Sunday

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Speaker 2: last week. So my question is who had the more

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Speaker 2: Lions by miles, and I would side with the Lions

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Speaker 2: being more disappointing. The second half was a clinic of

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Speaker 2: what not to do fourth down decisions, not converting, calling

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Speaker 2: just absolutely brutal. You kick away a seventeen point lead.

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Speaker 2: So it's the Lions. But you ever see in your

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Speaker 2: your mirror where it says objects are closer than they appear,

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Speaker 2: right when you look at the side mirrors of your car.

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Speaker 2: That's what I feel like between the Ravens and the Lions.

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Speaker 2: Who was more disappointing The Ravens. How many immature mistakes

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Speaker 2: and penalties from Lamar Gronk spiking his helmet to an

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Speaker 2: interception thrown into triple coverage, the ze Flowers fumble to

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Speaker 2: hitting Mahomes in the head, and it was just one

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Speaker 2: they didn't dance with who brung them. They're number one

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Speaker 2: rushing team and they didn't run it. It was crazy.

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Speaker 2: So I think the Lions were more disappointing, but the

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Speaker 2: Ravens performance it wasn't far behind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the Ravens. To me, it takes the cake

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Speaker 3: man for all the reasons you just gave, and I

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Speaker 3: think it's it's just more what's the word I'm looking for,

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Speaker 3: more egregious the errors that the Ravens made as opposed

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Speaker 3: to the Lions. I think the reason why the Lions

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Speaker 3: appears to be the most disastrous because they had everything

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Speaker 3: out of that game, and then they gave it all away,

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Speaker 3: and for a variety of reasons, but frankly less egregious

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Speaker 4: The Ravens probably should.

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Speaker 3: Have won that game because they were a better team

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Speaker 3: than the Chiefs all season long. I mean the Ravens

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Speaker 3: they went, I mean they went to San Francisco. If

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Speaker 3: if you feel great about San Francisco, the forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers win the Super Bowl. Well, the Ravens beat the

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Speaker 3: out there, not just weeks ago, you know. So, I

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Speaker 3: mean the Ravens are really really talented football team, and

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Speaker 3: they completely abandoned the run game. Todd Munkin, for all

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Speaker 3: as an offensive coordinator throughout this season, he had weeks

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Speaker 3: you're not looking past any opponent. But let's face the

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Speaker 3: fellas week eighteen of the season, where they rested all

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Speaker 3: excuse me, the AFC Championship game plan, regardless of who

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Speaker 3: he should have been spending time on were situational plays

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Speaker 3: that would have worked against anybody or most people, most teams,

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Speaker 3: and what we saw was a complete abandonment of what

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Speaker 3: got them to the AFC Championship game. Gus Edwards, at

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Speaker 3: no point in the season, had ever rushed for less

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Speaker 3: than five carries. He had three during that game. Lamar

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Speaker 3: Jackson barely ran the football on planned runs. In fact,

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Speaker 3: one of the only times he did they it was

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Speaker 3: something yards. Like, why would they get away from what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I think we were still waiting

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Speaker 5: on an answer from from Todd Munkin. It seems like

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Speaker 5: it almost seems well, it could be two things, and

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Speaker 5: I think of the two games, definitely disappointment with the Lions,

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Speaker 5: I talked to I have a lot of friends from Michigan,

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Speaker 5: used to work in Michigan. They were very angry and

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Speaker 5: very upset. The next day the Ravens, it was like

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Speaker 5: what happened? Like what did we do? Like? What team

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Speaker 5: was this? It was almost like a different team, like

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Speaker 5: a Monstar's you know, is body snatched them heading into

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Speaker 5: that game, more so body or brain snatched Todd Munkin.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the game plan was. I think

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Speaker 5: I think they maybe panicked a little bit because the

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Speaker 5: Chiefs in the first half looked lights out. And then

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Speaker 5: you give Mike McDonald a lot of credit, the Ravens

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Speaker 5: made the adjustments defensively and the Chiefs didn't score in

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Speaker 5: the second half, and even despite all of the penalties

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Speaker 5: and the turnovers, and they were a minus three turnover margin,

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Speaker 5: you know, third down conversion of twenty seven percent, like

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Speaker 5: like they did nothing up to their standard in that game.

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Speaker 5: Whereas the Lions, Yeah, you can make the case a

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Speaker 5: couple of decisions for Dan Campbell maybe went awry. I

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Speaker 5: the third down run call on the goal line. But

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Speaker 5: I don't even know if that was Dan Campbell's fault.

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Speaker 5: That might have been Ben Johnson and gob should have

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Speaker 5: checked out. I don't know the semantics of that. I

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Speaker 5: thought the rest of the game for the Lions played

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Speaker 5: drops by Josh Reynolds and the Gibbs fumble. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it was like the whole game. They just abandoned the run, penalties, turnovers.

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Speaker 5: So I think the Ravens, in terms of the fan

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Speaker 5: base and the expectations, probably a little more disappointed this week.

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Speaker 2: Certainly the expectations right, they were a number one seed,

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Speaker 2: they were expected by many to win the game. I

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Speaker 2: go back to the Lions where two things stick out

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Speaker 2: with me. Where who wakes up in a cold sweat

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Speaker 2: more often in the offseason? You know, I think it's

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Speaker 2: the Lions for two reasons. One, the first fourth down

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Speaker 2: in the third quarter midway through, if you kick it,

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Speaker 2: you go up by seventeen again, and you're probably wrestling

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Speaker 2: with the thought of, if we kick that field goal,

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Speaker 2: we might be getting ready for the Super Bowl right now.

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Speaker 2: It's not a stretch to say that at least to

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Speaker 2: wonder that. And the other thing that's gonna mess with

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Speaker 2: you more is kicking away a huge lead the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna bother you.

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Speaker 2: You didn't run the ball that you know, headbutted Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelcey in the head like Kyle van Neid did. And

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Speaker 2: there's so many things that they did wrong in that

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Speaker 2: game that's gonna mess with them. But the Lions had

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Speaker 2: a seventeen point lead. The Ravens never had the lead,

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Speaker 2: you know, So to have a seventeen point lead and

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Speaker 2: to really question the way that you manage the game

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Speaker 2: in the second half and some of the miscues Josh

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Speaker 2: Reynolds with the drops plural right at Jamier Gibbs with

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Speaker 2: the fumble. I think it's gonna mess with you more

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna wake up in a cold sweat more

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Speaker 2: often if you're the Lions. But it's an interesting discussion

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Speaker 2: who was more disappointing.

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Speaker 1: They both were. I give the edge to Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Though, yeah, yeah, well, and I understand that because emotionally

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Speaker 3: I would too. I would give it to them because

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Speaker 3: of the lead in the first half, because of the decisions,

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Speaker 3: how consequential the decision making was in moments like that's

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Speaker 2: There we go, he's back. Keep the band together, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's often taken as.

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Speaker 3: on the actual team to buy in. And that's what

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Speaker 3: you've seen with the forty nine Ers and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, over the last decade. If you win the turnover

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Speaker 5: battle in the playoffs, who win the game seventy five

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Speaker 5: percent of the time. I mean, I can't make it

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Speaker 5: any clear cut than that. Like, if you in translation,

439
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Speaker 5: if you make fewer mistakes in the playoffs, you'll win

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Speaker 5: three out of four games. That's it. And I think

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Speaker 5: when you look at what those two games were on Sunday,

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Speaker 5: you had two road underdogs. One of them played perfect football,

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Speaker 5: the other one didn't. One of them won, one of

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Speaker 5: them is going to the super Bowl, the other one isn't.

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Speaker 5: And that's what it takes to win on the road

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Speaker 5: in the NFL. That's what it takes to win as

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Speaker 5: an underdog in the NFL. You have to play mistake

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Speaker 5: free football. And you look at Mahomes's numbers from Sunday's game,

449
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Speaker 5: the basic counting stats, they certainly don't jump off the page, right.

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Speaker 5: Two hundred and forty one yards, one touchdown, no picks,

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Speaker 5: no points in the second half either, six point two

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Speaker 5: yards pert tempt That's well below any average NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 5: But then you look at some of the underlying metrics, right,

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Speaker 5: the advanced analytics that I just love. Completion percentage over

455
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Speaker 5: expected one of the highest in NFL history in a

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Speaker 5: playoff game, fourteen percent. What that tells me the game

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Speaker 5: plan was the Ravens are going to take away the

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Speaker 5: deep ball. They're going to see how patient you are. Patrick,

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Speaker 5: Do you have the ability as a road underdog in

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Speaker 5: a championship game to take the play that we are

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Speaker 5: giving you and not try to be the hero. And

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Speaker 5: what did Patrick Mahomes do. He didn't try to be

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Speaker 5: the hero. He made every play that the Ravens gave him,

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Speaker 5: whereas the Lions didn't make every play right. And I

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Speaker 5: don't want to go back to why they lost and

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Speaker 5: why the Chiefs won, But you want to talk about mistakes.

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Speaker 5: Executing the game plan the way it's supposed to be

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Speaker 5: executed instead of freelancing and doing all this other crazy

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Speaker 5: stuff that and Mahomes is great at doing that. They

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Speaker 5: didn't do it as much in this game because they

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Speaker 5: didn't need to. The game plan didn't call for it.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it'll call for it in the Super Bowl. Hey, Patrick,

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Speaker 5: I need you to go be a hero, Bud. We're losing,

474
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Speaker 5: they were ahead, they had the lead, short, quick passing game.

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Speaker 5: Don't turn it over, don't make mistakes. We're going to

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. That's how you win. In the NFL,

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Speaker 5: it is a team sport. The Chiefs are the ultimate

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Speaker 5: team right now, with the ultimate player at the most

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Speaker 5: important position, very very tough to beat in those scenarios.

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Speaker 2: You know you mentioned shared free lancing, check doing crazy

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Speaker 2: stuff check, yet also somehow sticking to the script. Check

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Speaker 2: all three our main man, Isaac loewenkron yep, who's a

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Speaker 2: bit of a maverick, but can yet stick to the script.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing. Let it wash over you again right now.

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Speaker 11: It's quite a tight rope that I have to walk oftentimes,

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Speaker 11: lights on, lights off.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Rich, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean in the darker, in the light, He's going

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Speaker 3: to be our guiding principle here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just true.

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Speaker 1: Just look for that north star.

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Speaker 11: Which is good advice if you are a teammate of

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Speaker 11: Denver's Nikola Jokic, because last night of their one twenty

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Speaker 11: to one O eight win over the Portland Trailblazers, all

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Speaker 11: he did twenty seven points, twenty two rebounds, twelve assists

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Speaker 11: for his fifteenth triple double of the season. That Orleans

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Speaker 11: Pelicans won at San Antonio one fourteen to one thirteen.

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Speaker 11: Zion Williamson scored thirty three, including the game winning layup.

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Speaker 1: With three point eight to go.

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Speaker 11: Shay gilges Alexander the Oklahoma City Thunder thirty one points

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Speaker 11: in their one twenty six one oh six win over

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Speaker 11: Charlotte is ninth straight thirty point game. Gildas. Alexander also

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Speaker 11: had nine assists, five steals and three blocks for the Thunder,

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Speaker 11: which is one seven of nine. The Orlando Magic rally

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Speaker 11: from a seventeen point second quarter deficit to Wited Minnesota

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Speaker 11: what aweight to what O six, Atlanta over Phoenix one

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Speaker 11: twenty nine to one, twenty three Young thirty two points,

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Speaker 11: seven three pointers, fifteen assists, and the Sacramento Kings one

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Speaker 11: at Indiana one, thirty three to one twenty two. De

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Speaker 11: Monte Sabonis twenty six points and twelve rebounds for his

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Speaker 11: thirtieth consecutive double double, breaking the Kings franchise record previously

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Speaker 11: held by Oscar Robertson Not Bad Fellows, Back to You, Thank.

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Speaker 2: off the year. How about the coaching carousel so You've

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Speaker 2: got the final two vacancies as far as head coaches

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Speaker 2: go in the NFL. You've got Mike McDonald going to

525
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks. You've got dan Quinn going to Washington, both

526
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Speaker 2: defensive coordinators. Right where you're getting this day and age

527
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Speaker 2: of like, oh, it's got to be offense, offense, offense.

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Speaker 2: I think those are two solid hires. And the other

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Speaker 2: thing that stands out to me, Bill Belichick quote unquote

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Speaker 2: had support from decision makers before dan Quinn got the

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Speaker 2: job in Washington. Washington spoke with Belichick. It was reported

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Speaker 2: that team owner Josh Harris was enamored with the idea

533
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Speaker 2: of Belichick coaching the Commanders, yet Belichick is on the

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Speaker 2: outside looking in.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of.

536
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Speaker 2: The Bachelor, right where if the bachelor says, oh, you're

537
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Speaker 2: a great catch, you'd make an amazing partner, But at

538
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Speaker 2: the end of the day, there's no rose for that girl.

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Speaker 1: Like that's Belichick, it's all at all.

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Speaker 2: They were enamored with this guy, we love the idea,

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Speaker 2: and at the end of the day, it's dan Quinn,

542
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: it's rahe Morris, right, Like that's what it is. Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick is the bachelor that never got a rose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's actually a really great way to describe it,

545
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Speaker 3: because I look, I don't want to compare this all

546
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Speaker 3: the way to dating life, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: people out there who win their dating They hedge their bets,

548
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Speaker 3: you know, because you're thrown in with one guy or

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Speaker 3: one gal, it doesn't mean that that relationship's going to

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Speaker 3: last forever. So all those potential suitors out there, you

551
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Speaker 3: want to make sure things end amicably this way, just

552
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Speaker 3: in case you find out six months in, turns out

553
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Speaker 3: he had a secret family the whole time, and now

554
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Speaker 3: I'm single again.

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Speaker 4: Hey, what was that? What was that other guy's name?

556
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Speaker 4: Was it? Bill? Billy Billy Belchick?

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Speaker 3: Well maybe I ought to give him a call, right,

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Speaker 3: you know. So that's what I think the Washington commanders did.

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Speaker 3: I think they hired the guy they wanted to hire.

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Speaker 3: I do think that they had other conversations with many

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Speaker 3: other coaches, but specifically the one who's arguably, inarguably the

562
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Speaker 3: most talented and successful coach who got left out of

563
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Speaker 3: this year's hiring cycle who may have interest in coaching

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Speaker 3: in Washington, especially because he's a history buff on the

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Speaker 3: NFL and Washington is obviously one of those historic franchises

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Speaker 3: that he's cared about and documented. And you know, his

567
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Speaker 3: dad was a I'm talking about Belichick now, his dad

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Speaker 3: was a historian of the league as well.

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Speaker 4: You know, So wouldn't it be cool if.

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Speaker 3: Dot dot dot Bill Belichick works for the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think I think it was probably a

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Speaker 4: draw for him.

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Speaker 3: So if you're smart, you know, and you're Josh Harris,

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna say like, yeah, look, you know, we

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Speaker 3: determined that dan Quinn was just he was the best

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Speaker 3: for our organization. And you know you're gonna say nice,

577
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Speaker 3: glowing things about Belichick. And it's because what happens if

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Speaker 3: this is a Frank Reich situation. What happens if dan

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Speaker 3: Quinn comes in and it is so obviously and immediately

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Speaker 3: apparent to you, oh, this isn't a fit. I want

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Speaker 3: to go in a different direction. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: whether or not that's the right decision or not, And

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Speaker 3: it's a mid season firing, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you have an opportunity to rekindle whatever conversations you had

585
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Speaker 3: with Bill Belichick during the offseason. I made a mistake.

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Speaker 3: We hired the wrong guy. We really liked you a lot.

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Speaker 3: Would you be willing to consider it and then come

588
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Speaker 3: the offseason maybe he is your higher So I think

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Speaker 3: that's the reason why that was messaged the way it

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Speaker 3: was from the Commanders to Belichick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was looking at some research. I just the

592
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Speaker 5: whole time, I was just trying to picture Belichick on

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Speaker 5: The Golden Bachelor. That's like he's planted that seat in

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Speaker 5: my head, Brian, I don't know if that's going anywhere

595
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Speaker 5: for a while. I think McDonald's the like, if I

596
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Speaker 5: had to pick one of the coaching highers that I

597
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Speaker 5: thought was the best fit in terms of upside, in

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Speaker 5: terms of where the team currently is and if they

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Speaker 5: can win now with this new coach, I think it's

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Speaker 5: Mike McDonald. I think if you look at what he

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Speaker 5: did to the best running schemes in the NFC West,

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Speaker 5: when the Ravens face the Rams and they face the Niners, right,

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Speaker 5: that was a pretty good performance. It's those those tough,

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Speaker 5: those tough NFC West rushing defense, rushing offenses for Mike

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Speaker 5: McDonald's defense, and the Rams moved it a little bit.

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Speaker 5: But Stafford was like out of his mind that day.

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Speaker 5: But for the most part, I think McDonald's scheme holds

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Speaker 5: up pretty well against the McVeigh and the Shanahan offenses,

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Speaker 5: and I think that makes him a very good fit

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Speaker 5: for Seattle. I think you can make a case that

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Speaker 5: Antonio Pierce was kind of like a changing of the guard.

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Speaker 5: Higher It was the first time I can recall where

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Speaker 5: like the players basically say, hey, listen, if you don't

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Speaker 5: hire Antonio Pierce, we're gonna riot, We're gonna we're gonna strike.

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Speaker 5: And they ended up hiring a guy that I thought,

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Speaker 5: considering the circumstances here in town, kind of captured the

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Speaker 5: hearts and minds of the fan base and obviously the

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Speaker 5: players for them to stump so hard for him in

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Speaker 5: the offseason. The the Washington situation was interesting, right, Like,

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Speaker 5: it was obvious they wanted Ben Johnson like more than anyone,

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Speaker 5: and I think the Lions just ponied up a little

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Speaker 5: extra dough And I think in the end, Ben Johnson

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Speaker 5: is a little bit more comfortable maybe at this stage

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Speaker 5: of his career being the number two. Maybe he wasn't

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Speaker 5: ready quite for that role. And frankly, the situation in Washington, guys,

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Speaker 5: it's not great, you know, And I know that on

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Speaker 5: paper it looks good. They've got a lot of assets,

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Speaker 5: they've got a lot of draft picks, and they've got capital.

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Speaker 5: But they've got a new GM, a new owner, a

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Speaker 5: fan base that's just like still coming out from the

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Speaker 5: Dan Snyder dregs. It's gonna take a few years, I

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Speaker 5: think for Washington to figure it out, whereas the Lines

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Speaker 5: are ready to win right now. So I thought Ben

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Speaker 5: Johnson's decision was smart. We'll see what happens with Belichick.

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Speaker 5: I have no idea if this guy's gonna be He'll

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Speaker 5: probably get another shot at some point, but you're gonna

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Speaker 5: have to give up all the money and all the

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Speaker 5: power to get this guy in your system. And I

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Speaker 5: just don't know if there's a lot of owners right

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Speaker 5: now that are willing to take that risk.

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Speaker 1: I might shock you here.

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Speaker 2: I think Washington is the best job opening in this

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Speaker 2: correct shocking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I would put that at the top of the list.

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Speaker 2: And you know what I would compare it to. I

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Speaker 2: would compare it to the Houston Texans. You get the

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Speaker 2: second overall pick. It's not the easiest thing to find

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Speaker 2: the next C. J. Stroud, But we were looking at

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Speaker 2: the Texans like, oh gosh, how long is it gonna

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Speaker 2: take for them? And boom presto, they were a double

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Speaker 2: digit win team. Want a playoff game if you get

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Speaker 2: either a Caleb Williams or Drake may which Washington will get,

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Speaker 2: and if that is the real which both of those

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Speaker 2: guys could be. I think you have a quick turnaround there,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you're looking at that roster

657
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Speaker 2: a lot differently. You know, we look at that roster

658
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Speaker 2: when it's been navigated by Sam Howell. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: a lot different If you've got a true difference maker

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Speaker 2: in there. It's like going from Davis Mills to c. J. Stroud,

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Speaker 2: you know, and poof, you're off and running real fast.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why Belichick isn't willing to give up

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Speaker 2: more control. This is the time in his coaching career

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Speaker 2: to do that. And this was a stat that blew

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Speaker 2: me away. Pete Carroll is seventy two years old. Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick is seventy one years old. Their replacements, Mike McDonald

667
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Speaker 2: and Gerrod Mayo, they are combined seventy three years old.

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Speaker 2: Both guys are almost the same age as who they were.

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Speaker 5: That's why Belichick's not willing to give up power when

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Speaker 5: you get to that age, Brian, you don't like changing

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Speaker 5: your ways. You like going to the same diner every

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Speaker 5: day and ordering the same omelet every day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I hear you, I hear you. On that.

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Speaker 2: We've got Rich Ornberg, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR,

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Speaker 2: betting analyst. I'm Brian No coming up next the parley platter. Now,

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Speaker 2: I've got some bad news. There's no football today. No,

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Speaker 2: so I'm guessing this might be a little bit of

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Speaker 2: college basketball.

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Speaker 5: No, No, I got an a super Bowl one for

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Speaker 5: you. You just oh really, okay, Oh check your email, Budd,

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Speaker 5: you just.

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Speaker 4: Wait, oh yeah, oh oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is this like a nine leager like last.

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Speaker 5: No, it's actually it's it's a big payout. But you'll see.

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Speaker 2: I hope you added usher wearing sunglasses. That's coming up

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Speaker 1: Let's do this, check this out, Arlay letter. Okay, Jared Smith,

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Speaker 1: you've been in the lab. What have you cooked up

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Speaker 1: for us here?

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Speaker 5: Well, we have a story. So five years ago was

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Speaker 5: my first season covering the NFL from a gambling perspective.

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Speaker 5: I was working for a network and we were doing

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Speaker 5: shows and cooking up stuff kind of like we do here,

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Speaker 5: but obviously at a much different scale. And the first

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl I covered was the Chiefs and the Niners,

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Speaker 5: and I didn't know what I was doing back then.

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Speaker 5: I still don't know what I'm doing now, but a

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Speaker 5: little bit more of a handle on things. And one

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Speaker 5: of the parlays that I concocted in that game was

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Speaker 5: a touchdown parlay. It was Patrick Mahomes to score a

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Speaker 5: rushing touchdown or anytime touchdown. It was Kyle hustcheck to

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Speaker 5: score anytime touchdown, and I remember hitting that parlay live

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Speaker 5: on the air and thinking, man, it doesn't get any

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Speaker 5: better than this.

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Speaker 12: This is the peak of media when you win money

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Speaker 12: live on TV, right, So we're gonna run it back

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Speaker 12: this year and we're gonna try to capture that magic again.

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Speaker 5: This is a absurdly big payout fifty to one on

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Speaker 5: this parlay, so don't put a whole lot on it.

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Speaker 5: Don't go nuts.

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Speaker 1: This is for fun.

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Speaker 5: This is a exciting, big payout, small risk, big reward

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Speaker 5: parlay Patrick Mahomes four to one to score a touchdown

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Speaker 5: in the game. He hasn't scored a touchdown yet in

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Speaker 5: the playoffs, and that is surprising. Usually he gets one

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Speaker 5: at some point, especially now. This would be his fourth

729
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Speaker 5: postseason game in the wildcard round they had to play

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Speaker 5: this year. Kylehust Jackasson's going to touchdown all year. But

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Speaker 5: this is a guy that weirdly gets a lot of

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Speaker 5: red zone looks and actually got the first touch of

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Speaker 5: the game a couple of weeks ago against the Packers.

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Speaker 5: So I listen have fun with this. I'll give you

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Speaker 5: another parlay that's a little bit more correlated to what

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Speaker 5: I normally do next week when we get to the

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Speaker 5: week of the game. But I figured i'd share this

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Speaker 5: fun story with you and we'll try to run it

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Speaker 5: back this year with a Kyle used check Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 5: anytime touchdown parlay. Arguably one of the best bets I've

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Speaker 5: ever won in my life. Four years ago when these

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Speaker 5: teams played in the Super Bowl. Oh, very nice?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what you said? What was it?

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Speaker 2: Fifty one to one? It's fifty to one, fifty to one,

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Speaker 2: fifty one. I thought it was gonna be a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of legs.

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Speaker 5: Got too late too.

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Speaker 4: I like this. I love it.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I think this is a fun bet because one,

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Speaker 3: I mean, is so obvious, the other one is not

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Speaker 3: so obvious, to the point where Kyle Yuschek in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty three has not scored a touchdown this season.

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Speaker 6: If I'm getting one, he's okay, get one.

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 3: Now he has been used in fact, last game I

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Speaker 3: think was his most maybe his most active game of

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Speaker 3: the season, with a couple of receptions for over thirty yards.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see, Yeah, that was nice over the middle.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, the first one and then the little toe

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Speaker 2: drag swag.

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Speaker 5: They like losing him in weird spots, and I think

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Speaker 5: the key for the Super Bowl. Guys, don't worry about

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Speaker 5: what the stats were in the regular season. They're meaningless.

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Speaker 5: In fact, they're trying to go against the grain here

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Speaker 5: because you've seen it on film all year. How can

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Speaker 5: we change up off of that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's some positive juju going with his wife

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Speaker 2: under profession designs all narratives.

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Speaker 5: Guys, come on, Taylor sweat. We're gonna beaut Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 5: next week.

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Speaker 2: Two guys, don't worry, by the way, that's it's the

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Speaker 2: Kelsey you know.

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Speaker 1: Probably.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a Super Bowl promo for the halftime

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Speaker 3: show in studio here at Fox Sports Radio. Usher was

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Speaker 3: wearing sunglasses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's happening. It's happening. Coming up next.

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Speaker 2: It's a prediction that might be the worst of all time. Oh,

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Speaker 2: what is going on everybody? We're counting down to Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl fifty eight next Sunday. We got a lot of

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Speaker 2: good stuff beyond the super Bowl as well. You guys

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Speaker 2: have heard some bad predictions in your lifetime.

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Speaker 5: Make him every week.

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Speaker 2: There's that both you and I, Jim, how about that

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Speaker 2: we both decided to go oh and three last week

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Speaker 2: as Rich went three and oh and completely through the

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Speaker 2: standings out of whack.

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Speaker 1: You know, we got ourselves.

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Speaker 2: I am a prime candidate for mayonnaise in the oh,

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Speaker 2: I am. It's been it was a bad week. It's

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Speaker 2: been a bad last four weeks for yours truly. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: it's a good segue. I've made some bad predictions lately.

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Speaker 2: This what you're about to hear. Trump's all of that,

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Speaker 2: all of it. This was Jim Harbaugh, new Chargers head coach,

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Speaker 2: on with Cowen Colin Cowhard check this out. Can I

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Speaker 2: ask you about JJ McCarthy as a kid, how do

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Speaker 2: you think he'll do? What does he bring to the

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Speaker 2: table that maybe I can't see as a TV viewer?

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Speaker 13: Uh arm, talent, athleticism, it found winning with numbing repetition.

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Speaker 13: Don't be surprised when he if when he goes to

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Speaker 13: uh he's the number one quarterback off the board. That's

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Speaker 13: that's my prediction right now. When people get a load

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Speaker 13: of Jj and what he you know, how he can

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Speaker 13: throw the ball, how he spends it, his athleticism is intelligence,

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Speaker 13: you know, talk about it factor.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's got it.

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Speaker 13: The competitiveness that he has, and and they get around

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Speaker 13: him and they really start digging in and they start

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Speaker 13: talking to him. Uh yeah, that's that's that's that's an

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Speaker 13: early prediction for the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: M that's a horrible prediction.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be the first quarterback taken right, Like,

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Speaker 2: I think this is the first thing we have to understand.

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Speaker 2: There's a big difference between prospects and how it actually

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Speaker 2: plays out.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Good example is Brock Purdy in the Super Bowl. Right

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Speaker 2: Rock perty was the last pick in the draft. He

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Speaker 2: was not a great prospect, but he's turned out to

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Speaker 2: be a much better player.

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Heck, he might turn out to be a better player

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Speaker 2: than some of the quarterbacks that are gonna be chosen

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Speaker 2: in front of him. Time will tell if that's the

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Speaker 2: case or not. But he's not a better prospect. He's

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Speaker 2: not going There's no chance he goes above those other

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Speaker 2: guys like Drake May Caleb Williams. Unless crazy Jim Harbaught

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Speaker 2: trades up to number one and take a Jay McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: That's the only way it's happening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows because he has it built into his

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Speaker 3: contract that he's allowed to use draft capital to get

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Speaker 3: the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 4: All right, well.

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Speaker 3: Check this out. I think there's two things at play here,

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Speaker 3: maybe even three. First and foremost, he is a Michigan man,

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Speaker 3: as he put it, and I do believe that there

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Speaker 3: is a field t and a loyalty to Michigan with

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh that's probably different from a lot of other alum.

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Speaker 3: I think it matters to him. I think he thinks

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Speaker 3: a lot of that school, what it's done for him

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Speaker 3: and his life. And so it's almost like in saying that,

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Speaker 3: you're sort of pledging allegiance to another Wolverine and building

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Speaker 3: up the program because the higher JJ McCarthy gets drafted,

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Speaker 3: the better off Michigan's gonna be, because you know that

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Speaker 3: helps with recruiting and all that stuff. So there's one

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Speaker 3: aspect of it. The other aspect of it is, I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is a guy who won a national championship with him,

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Speaker 3: So he's showing loyalty and and I think that's just

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Speaker 3: from the standpoint of personality.

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Speaker 4: You want that in all of your coaches.

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Speaker 3: And then there's the other side of me that says, geez,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of people around that program

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Speaker 3: that knows where a lot of skeletons are buried, and

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Speaker 3: maybe JJ McCarthy is one of them. No, man, So

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, if you're gonna leave a place,

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Speaker 3: and obviously that could have had an influence on a

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Speaker 3: lot of people's decisions whether to stay or to go

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Speaker 3: into the draft with Michigan Wolverine players, and you did

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Speaker 3: some things that maybe you don't want. Anybody who used

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Speaker 3: to play with you or play for you have some

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Speaker 3: axes to grind against you. So you're just making sure

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Speaker 3: to dot all of your eyes and cross all your

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Speaker 3: t's on your way out the door. Because, let's put

864
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: it this way, I don't know for sure if there

865
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: was sign stealing that occurred that Michigan was responsible for,

866
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: but I'll tell you what, there's a whole lot of

867
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: smoke in that forest right now. And then CAA is

868
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: quote unquote still investigating that scandal, so we'll see what

869
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 3: results they come up with. But if I'm Jim Harbaugh,

870
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: I've got nothing but nice things to say about anybody

871
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 3: who I worked with, inside of the Wolverine program.

872
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 5: Wow, Rich went full conspiracy theory, right. I was not

873
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 5: expecting that that was a curveball that is valid. And

874
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 5: when I so, I tweeted out the slip yesterday, I said,

875
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 5: this is the worst football prediction of all time. As

876
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 5: to what Bride said, it is a terrible prediction. And

877
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 5: the responses were very Oh, he's just you know, pumping

878
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 5: up his guy, and and and I get that. And

879
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 5: if that's the case, if this old thing was just

880
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 5: a publicity stunt to make JJ McCarthy look a little

881
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 5: bit better, that's fine. I don't know if that's how

882
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 5: Harball operates. Like I like he, I feel like he

883
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 5: actually believes it. Like and if he does believe it,

884
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 5: I challenge you, Jim, put your money with your mouth

885
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 5: is trade Justin Herbert to the Bears and draft JJ

886
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 5: McCarty won. I mean, hey, listen, why not if that's

887
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 5: the If that's the if that's if he's that good

888
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 5: that he's the number one pick, take your quarterback.

889
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: That's, by the.

890
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 5: Way, I you know, pretty good. I think trade them Chicago,

891
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 5: get that number one pick back, and then you can

892
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 5: take JJ McCarty, who can live happily ever after. Yet

893
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 5: that's that's not going to happen because the Bears are

894
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 5: probably gonna take Cayleb Williams one. Because Caleb Williams is

895
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 5: from all intensive purposes, the best quarterback prospect in this class.

896
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 5: You can make the case for Drake May. I think

897
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 5: he's right there. Those guys are hands down one two.

898
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 5: After that, you can probably debate Jayden Daniels his frame

899
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 5: and the toughness, maybe Pennix and Knicks, maybe the all

900
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 5: around qualities, and you can make a lot of debates

901
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 5: about the next three or four guys. And maybe JJ

902
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 5: McCarthy's in that category where he's above Pennix or below

903
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 5: Knicks or above this and that. To put him in

904
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 5: the same breath as Caleb Williams and Drake May as

905
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 5: prospects right is insane to me. That is the part

906
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 5: that I just I really questioned Jim's judgment. Unless he's

907
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 5: just pumping up his dude.

908
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: He's well, he's a crazy person.

909
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 4: He is a bit, that's the thing.

910
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: And that's the thing.

911
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 2: He's almost like a college professor, and not all college

912
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: professors are like this, but where there's some brilliance to

913
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: them but there's also this quirky sort of randomness to

914
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: him that's Harbaugh, Like, he certainly is a successful coach,

915
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: but he's also a crazy person.

916
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: And I think that he actually believes this.

917
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 5: I think so too.

918
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: There's some LeVar ball to him, you know, Yeah, Okay,

919
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: LeVar cool. Yeah, it's the Harby. He's like, he's gonna

920
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: be number one, don't be shocked. Sure, it's like, look, man,

921
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, he just doesn't stack up as a prospect.

922
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: The playmaking ability with Caleb Williams, Drake May, the creativity,

923
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: it's just on another level. And let's go back to

924
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: this past season. The last note that you played matters,

925
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: and we saw him not throw a pass in the

926
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: entire second half against Penn State.

927
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: You know.

928
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: We saw them against Washington rush for over three hundred yards,

929
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: you know, so we saw them play and operate, and

930
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: we know that JJ McCarthy wasn't just leading them to

931
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: the promised land. That goes into who's going to be

932
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: selected number one? Overall, there's no chance JJ go. So

933
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: I think it's that we just have to laugh it off.

934
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, taking a comment like this seriously because it

935
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: just can't be taken seriously.

936
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, here's the thing, and I say this

937
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: every year this time of year, as we get closer

938
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: and closer to the NFL Draft, we don't know, and

939
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 3: nobody does. The best draft analysts they're wrong constantly. Sure,

940
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: the best general managers are wrong constantly. We missed everybody

941
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: missed on brock Perdy because I would have never assumed

942
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: he would be playing in a Super Bowl.

943
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 4: But here he is.

944
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: And by the way, he's a big reason why the

945
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers are playing in the Super Bowl.

946
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: And I'm not even just talking about the regular season alone.

947
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 3: The fourth quarter against the Green Bay Packer is what

948
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: he did, especially in that final drive the second half

949
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: against the Detroit Lions was perfect football.

950
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: I mean it was.

951
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 3: It was outstanding, highly composed football. He really handled the

952
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 3: situation well, even though he had a rough start. So

953
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen this year too. There's going to be

954
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: a player or players that everybody missed the boat on

955
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: and then two three years later they're playing in a

956
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: Super Bowl or they're a huge contributor on a great

957
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: football team, and we'd go, whoa that guy? And who knows?

958
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: Maybe that guy is JJ McCarthy.

959
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 4: We don't know.

960
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, Jim Harbaugh doesn't know either, because

961
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: he knows how.

962
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 4: This game goes.

963
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: He knows what this league looks like. So there's more

964
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: to it. And again I don't know how much of

965
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 3: a conspiracy theory it is. I do think though, that

966
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: the way he left things in Michigan, it definitely can

967
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: ruffle feathers because I'm not saying he used the program.

968
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: You gave close to a decade of your life to

969
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: a program or longer.

970
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: How long was his stint at Michigan was it? Was

971
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 4: it ten on the nose?

972
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 7: Hey?

973
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 5: Probably somewhere in that range. I don't know if though

974
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 5: I had but guessing because he was at the Niners

975
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 5: right at you know, in the twenty twelve Super Bowl.

976
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 4: But but you know, very very similar to Pete Carroll.

977
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 3: You know, you go to a program, you completely rebuild

978
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: your image. And it took some time because remember they

979
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: could not beat Ohio State at first, and finally they

980
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 3: started beating Ohio State and finally they started getting into

981
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: the postseason and now they're a national champion. And then

982
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: he ups and leaves. I mean, he finally got the

983
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: program to the point where he had always hoped it

984
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: would be, and then he leaves. So I think there's

985
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: a little bit of protecting self interest in some of

986
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 3: what he's going to be saying about that program and

987
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 3: about the players coming out of that program from now

988
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: and forever. Because if I were Jim Harbaugh, if I

989
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 3: were guilty of anything that he's being accused of over

990
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 3: his time coaching in Michigan, I would be careful about

991
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: saying anything negative about anybody. In fact, I would be

992
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: overwhelmingly positive about everything coming out of that program.

993
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 5: Here's how you do it. Here's how you re reassess

994
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 5: that question. JJ. And he said this before, JJ is

995
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 5: the best quarterback I have ever coached, the way he

996
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 5: sees things, the way he operates. Any team that passes

997
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 5: on him is going to be making a big mistake.

998
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 5: What's wrong with that? Like that is glowing recommendation, And

999
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 5: you're not putting yourself out there to say he is

1000
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 5: going to be the first quarterback taken, which you're going

1001
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 5: to be wrong about, right, And then they're gonna come

1002
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 5: back and say that you're wrong, and then you're gonna

1003
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 5: get asked about why you were so wrong and then

1004
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 5: it's just I guess maybe I like I always put

1005
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 5: myself in the coach's shoes when they're being asked questions, because,

1006
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 5: to be fair, I've never been in that situation before.

1007
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 5: I've never had one hundred microphones in my face, cameras

1008
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 5: on me, you know, everyone waiting with baited breath to

1009
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 5: find what my answer is. I understand why it can

1010
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 5: be a little bit awkward sometimes, but he's been doing

1011
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 5: this a really long time and he had to know

1012
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 5: that this was going to make headlines, and I know

1013
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 5: us talking about it is just perpetuating the headline. And

1014
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 5: it's fair to say that JJ McCarthy's going to be

1015
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 5: a great quarterback in the NFL. I put the comparison

1016
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 5: to Kirk Cousins or maybe a Russell Wilson. Those guys

1017
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 5: are third fourth round draft picks. They overachieved their number,

1018
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 5: and I think they're having success in the NFL. Right,

1019
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 5: That's kind of how I viewed JJ McCarthy. That's the upside.

1020
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 5: The downside is very bad because physically doesn't have those

1021
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 5: tools that Caleb has or Drake may has, or even

1022
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 5: a Jaden Daniels has with that electric speed that can

1023
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 5: just break a game open at any time. So I

1024
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 5: just think I think Jim knew exactly what he was doing,

1025
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 5: and he was trying to stir the pot, and he

1026
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 5: obviously stirred it.

1027
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: You know, I wonder how many times it is some

1028
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: mad genius stuff and how many times it's.

1029
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: Just blind luck.

1030
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1031
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: I go back to remember when Phil Accent was the

1032
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: head coach of the Lakers, and he said in a

1033
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: postgame press conference he was like, oh yeah, Leon Powell

1034
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: or Poe, and everyone's like.

1035
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: The send master. He's sending a message.

1036
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: He doesn't even know how to pronounce the guy's name,

1037
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: and I think it just made a mistake, you know

1038
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: what I mean. But I wonder how many times with

1039
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: Harbaugh to what you're saying, Jared, is he doing some

1040
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: equals mc squared, you know, backflip arithmetic over here where

1041
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 2: it's like, you know what, this will get him off

1042
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: the trail of we're weat cheating and let's I'll just

1043
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: say that JJ.

1044
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 5: Much that that is an interesting point because we're not

1045
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 5: talking about the cheating now. Yeah.

1046
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, or it could just be he's freaking crazy. Yeah,

1047
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: I think it randomly happened to go that way.

1048
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 5: This is a guy that doesn't eat chicken because he

1049
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 5: says it's a nervous bird.

1050
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 4: It's a nervous bird.

1051
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 5: That's here you go.

1052
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: He's got a closet full of khaki pans because he

1053
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: was tired of making that decision. It was wasting brain bandwidth. Yeah, look,

1054
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 3: I I think he's a genius. I think Jim Harbaugh

1055
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: is a genius. I think he has gotten a lot

1056
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: out of players over the course of his career. And

1057
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: obviously he's he's parachuted into some real bad situations. You know,

1058
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 3: you look at what he did with Stanford. Stanford was

1059
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: nobody going nowhere, and he turned that into sure a

1060
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: power in the Pac twelve for a time. You know,

1061
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: you look at you look at the San Francisco forty

1062
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 3: nine ers. It was destitute and he turned that program

1063
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: around got them to a Super Bowl. So Jim Harbaugh

1064
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 3: has got a soft touch when it comes to renovating

1065
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 3: a fixer rupper. And he did the same thing with

1066
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 3: the Michigan Wolverines who couldn't get over a very important

1067
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 3: hump in their schedule every single season, and then he

1068
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: won a national title. So the expectations for him are enormous,

1069
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: because I do think I don't think it's going beyond

1070
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 3: the pale to say that this guy is a brilliant

1071
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 3: football coach. But with brilliance, as we know, there is

1072
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: a cost, and sometimes the cost is crazy. And I

1073
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 3: think with the brilliance, we have a little bit of

1074
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 3: crazy with Jim Harbaugh.

1075
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's brilliant and it's crazy.

1076
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: I was, we're making fun of him after they won

1077
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: the national championship. I was watching with a buddy of

1078
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,920
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Speaker 1: What are you thinking as we're a week away?

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Speaker 7: Thik, great to be back. You know this week we've

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Speaker 7: taken You know, we have a bunch of player props

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Speaker 7: up at the moment, a lot more a lot more

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Speaker 7: options coming up for this game, and I've seen a

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Speaker 7: lot of sharp money coming in on like a lot

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Speaker 7: of like secondary receivers players for their first half and

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Speaker 7: first quarter receiving yards though interesting, I think some people

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Speaker 7: are trying to find an angle there, like Valdez Scantling

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Speaker 7: under four and a half receiving yards in the first quarter,

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Speaker 7: I think was one that starting to get hit earlier

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Speaker 7: in the week. So definitely from the angles people are

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Speaker 7: targeting with these first half and first quarter player props

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Speaker 7: that we're.

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Speaker 5: Offering, Seamus is this and I think the props right,

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00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 5: the game itself. You can make that line in your sleep.

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00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 5: The props is where now and it's it's nothing new, right,

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00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 5: We've been doing it in Vegas, you know, for years,

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00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 5: but now over the last few years that it's kind

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00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 5: of expanded to the national markets. Right, the props already

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00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 5: very popular. Is it harder for you to make the

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00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 5: props now because you need to do more or is

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00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,479
Speaker 5: it easier because you've kind of been doing it all year?

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00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 5: I think the prop market setting, especially for a one

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Speaker 5: game roll the dice, when you're getting so much handle,

1146
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Speaker 5: has got to be stressful.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's funny, like I've been I've been in the

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Speaker 7: industry for about five years now. Some guys out in

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00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 7: the desert, if they know, that's way longer than may

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00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 7: so they've definitely seen a bigger expansion than I have.

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Speaker 7: But I remember when I started, I mean it was

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Speaker 7: probably around we had like about five hundred markets, I

1153
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 7: think the first Super Bowl I work. Now we're going

1154
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Speaker 7: way past one thousand. Wow, And it's it's really something else.

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Speaker 7: But you know, the more you do it, the more

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00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 7: you get used to it, Like we have all these

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Speaker 7: props loaded ready to go. You know, the player props

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Speaker 7: are one thing. It's kind of similar to a normal game.

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Speaker 7: We have our models for those, and yeah, i'd say

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Speaker 7: it is you kind of get used to it. This

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Speaker 7: week is almost almost busier than next week is going

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Speaker 7: to be. It's really just getting up this myriad of props, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, seaves.

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Speaker 3: Sports betting is now legalized in thirty eight states. You know,

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Speaker 3: this is a question just overall about sports betting and

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Speaker 3: what maybe the influx of amateur betters. You know, people

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Speaker 3: who are just sort of drifting by an app or

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Speaker 3: see an ad leading up to Super Bowl fifty eight,

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Speaker 3: or get caught up in the excitement of a friend

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Speaker 4: You know things like that, right.

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Speaker 3: What does that do to the market though, you know,

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Speaker 3: because you have a flood newbies coming in, especially for

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Speaker 3: big games like this.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's just what you said before, it's just

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Speaker 7: a lot of a lot more recreational players, like especially

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Speaker 7: now where you have like Taylor Swift is now involved

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Speaker 7: in the Super Bowl and you can. You can literally

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Speaker 7: bet on this stuff like Travis kelt if you and

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Speaker 7: super NBC. It's gonna be back for the books. Everyone's

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Speaker 7: piling in, I know in Ontario that's where we can

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Speaker 7: offer some of you know, the more niche props like

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Speaker 7: the halftime markets and the anthem and so you can

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Speaker 7: bet on Taylor Swift stuff in Ontario at the end

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Speaker 7: of the app up there it's you know, all this

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Speaker 7: pop culture going into the Super Bowl really brings a

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Speaker 7: lot of like new faces to sports betting who probably

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Speaker 7: would have never even thought about facing a bet.

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Speaker 1: Before, uh Seamus.

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Speaker 2: As far as what we saw last week, a lot

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Speaker 2: of public betters, they'll go off of last week, say,

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Speaker 2: parties over rushing you gardage in the Super Bowl or

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Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel had a nice game last week and the

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Speaker 2: public might be on Deebo this week.

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Speaker 1: How much sharp.

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Speaker 2: Money do you tend to get of the same thinking, right,

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Speaker 2: the sharp seemed to go the other way fade What happened, Like,

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Speaker 2: how much do you get in a spot like this

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Speaker 2: sharp money saying yeah, we actually expect perty to get

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Speaker 2: to thirteen yards rushing or something like that because we

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Speaker 2: just saw it.

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Speaker 7: It's funny you bring up the pretty rushing yards because

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Speaker 7: that has been a pretty popular crop throughout the week.

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Speaker 7: And I've seen action both ways on this sharp action

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Speaker 7: both ways as well, So it's almost like, you know,

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Speaker 7: there's one side of things like yeah, he is gonna

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Speaker 7: scramble for some yards, the other side saying like, no,

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Speaker 7: he usually doesn't do this, So expect a regression of

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Speaker 7: the means here. But we treat it the same as

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Speaker 7: any other market. We post, you post the market, see

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Speaker 7: what the sharps say, and we move the line and

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Speaker 7: then you know, as the week progresses, it like gets

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Speaker 7: massage more and more to what the consensus line.

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Speaker 9: Is going to be.

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Speaker 4: Seam is.

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Speaker 5: One of the biggest misconceptions about odds makers is that

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Speaker 5: you guys are like these robots in a room somewhere.

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Speaker 5: Your betters just like us, and most of you that's

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Speaker 5: why you're in the business is because you like to bet.

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Speaker 5: So put on your better's hat for a minute. Give

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Speaker 5: some advice to let's say a first or maybe this

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Speaker 5: is your first season betting the NFL. What is your

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Speaker 5: best piece of advice for how to best navigate betting

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Speaker 5: on the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: I think the first piece of advice, I would say,

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Speaker 7: ask yourself, which team does Patrick Mahomes play for? Patrick

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Speaker 7: Mahomes take the other team if they do have Patrick,

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Speaker 7: that's great.

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Speaker 3: That's sounding. I feel the exact same way. I like

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Speaker 3: to simplify things. Also as a better to this question,

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Speaker 3: I ask myself all the time, and look, I don't

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Speaker 3: place nearly as many bets as Jared or Brian, and

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Speaker 3: I don't work in Vegas like you do, Seamus.

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Speaker 4: But I think of it this way.

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Speaker 3: What is the bet that I can place that I

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Speaker 3: can fall asleep at night feeling okay losing? And those

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Speaker 3: are the bets I like to take, which brings me

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Speaker 3: to this. I want you to keep that betting hat

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Speaker 3: on that Jared asked you to put on. So Usher

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01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: is the musical performer of this year's Super Bowl fifty

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Speaker 3: eight halftime. Will Usher at any point wear sunglasses during

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Speaker 3: his musical act? Shamus, we need answers it.

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Speaker 7: Yes, can't imagine him not wearing sunglasses.

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Speaker 5: I've got an extensive scouting on the measure. The analytics

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Speaker 5: clearly point to Sun.

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Speaker 2: One favoring Yes, it's favoring yes, yes, absolutely has to Okay,

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Speaker 2: the Shamus Special today or this weekend, Shamus. It's funny

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Speaker 2: because I was like, it's a loaded college basketball slate.

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Speaker 2: We got a bunch of top ten matchups, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: Seamus might not go there, he might.

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Speaker 1: Go with Colgate.

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Speaker 2: And immediately Jared Smith says, I bet cole Gate, I'll

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Speaker 2: get today.

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Speaker 1: So that's got to do your well, what do you

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Speaker 1: like today?

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Speaker 7: So, like you said, it is a loaded play. We

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Speaker 7: got multiple top ten games, a lot of ranked matchups.

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Speaker 7: It's a big games in the mid majors. But you know,

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Speaker 7: we were all thicking the same thing when we woke

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Speaker 7: up this way. Is today the day Detroit Mercy wins them? Yeah, one, James,

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Speaker 7: they are not gonna win their first game today. Er

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Speaker 7: Morric is going to crush them on the boards. Then

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Speaker 7: they're gonna cover minus four and a half on the road.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, bade Detroit Mercy.

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Speaker 5: Yet I almost took a job at Detroit Mercy as

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Speaker 5: an sid like ten years ago. I remember going to

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Speaker 5: the gym and thinking to myself, yeah, no, I'm I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, well, hey, sorry Detroit. Thank you for the time

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Speaker 2: as always, man, and we'll look forward to chatting with.

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Speaker 1: You next week. Thanks you guys have a go on

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Speaker 1: you too.

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Speaker 2: There he is Seamous McGee, team lead of sports trading

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Speaker 2: to heavy hitter. We go straight from this would be

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Speaker 2: like you think about the four by one hundred meter

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Speaker 2: dash right we lay there. This would be Carl Lewis

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Speaker 2: handing the baton to Usain Bolt hind it right like

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Speaker 2: from Seamus to I Low.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what we have here. I low with

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Speaker 1: the latest.

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Speaker 11: Ah, that's one you don't want to drop. That's a

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Speaker 11: baton you do not want to drop. And let me

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Speaker 11: tell you those Detroit Mercy Titans have not recovered from

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Speaker 11: being snubbed. No, Jared Lee soon have some ten.

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Speaker 5: Years bad Now I feel bad. I just threw him

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Speaker 5: one of the bus I hope they're not listening it well,

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Speaker 5: hopefully Detroit campus.

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Speaker 11: Hopefully Detroit will have mercy on you for snubbing them

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Speaker 11: a decute ago. Nikola Jokaz showed no mercy on Portland

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Speaker 11: last night, twenty seven points, twenty two rebounds twelve assists

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Speaker 11: for his fifteenth triple double of the season in Denver's

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Speaker 11: one twenty to one aweight victory New Orleans What Again,

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Speaker 11: San Antonio one, fourteen to one thirteen, Zion Williamson thirty three,

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Speaker 11: including the game winning layup with three point eight to play.

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Speaker 11: Oklahoma City's Shay Gildos. Alexander scored thirty one, his ninth

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Speaker 11: consecutive thirty four point game, and the Thunders one twenty

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Speaker 11: six to what O six win over Charlotte. By the way,

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Speaker 11: he also had nine assist, five steals in three blocks.

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Speaker 11: The Orlando Magic rally from his seventeen point second quarter

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Speaker 11: deficit to win at Minnesota what Away to what O six?

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Speaker 11: Atlanta over Phoenix one twenty nine to one twenty Trey

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Speaker 11: Young thirty two point seven three pointers and fifteen assists. Finally,

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Speaker 11: the world, including the sports world, continuing to mourn the

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Speaker 11: passing of actor and former NFL linebacker Carl Weathers, who

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Speaker 11: passed away Thursday at the age of seventy six. Weathers,

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Speaker 11: of course, portrayed Apollo Creed in the Rocky movies and

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Speaker 11: Rocky himself. Sylvester Stallone posted this tribute on social media.

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Speaker 14: Carl Weathers was such an integral part of my life,

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Speaker 14: my success, everything about it. When he walked into the

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Speaker 14: room and I saw for the first time I saw

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Speaker 14: great his voice.

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Speaker 1: His size, his power, his athletic.

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Speaker 14: Ability, but more importantly, his heart, his soul.

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Speaker 1: He was magic.

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Speaker 14: I was so fortunate to be part of this life.

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Speaker 4: So apollow cute.

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Speaker 11: Punch, very well said by Sylvester Stallone Fellas back to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that was a heck of a tribune.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, really slide.

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Speaker 1: That was really well done man.

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Speaker 5: And he made that movie too.

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Speaker 2: Oh those rocky movies Hollow Creeper Chess Classics.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: action this weekend.

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Speaker 1: We've got four top ten matchups.

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Speaker 2: We've got three today one tomorrow where both teams are

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Speaker 2: ranked in the top ten and they're playing each other. Right,

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Speaker 2: I guess the simple question is which one are you

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Speaker 2: most looking forward to? I mean, Duke North Carolina is

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Speaker 2: probably at the top of most people's lists. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Man Houston at Kansas, the way

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Speaker 2: Houston defends and going in to the fieldhouse right little

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Speaker 2: fog hellen action, that is going to be a tremendous matchup.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for that one.

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Speaker 3: I love this slate and also I bet you the

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Speaker 3: teams you are playing in it love this slate because

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Speaker 3: listen to this stat that I dug up. Teams ranked

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Speaker 3: in the top ten of the AP top twenty five

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Speaker 3: pole are now twenty five and thirty this season on

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Speaker 3: the road against unranked opponents. That's a winning percentage of

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Speaker 3: forty five and a half percent, which is twenty almost

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Speaker 3: twenty eight percentage points lower than the historical percentage at

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Speaker 3: which top ten teams have traditionally won road games against

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Speaker 3: unranked opponents. It's also sixty and a half percentage points

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Speaker 3: lower than the all time worst winning percentage in a

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Speaker 3: season by top ten teams in road games against unranked opponents.

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Speaker 4: So if you think.

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Speaker 3: About it, it's almost like a respite to play against

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Speaker 3: ranked opponents on the road. Because for these top ten teams,

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Speaker 3: the parody in college basketball has become so absurd with

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Speaker 3: nil and transfer portal, and you know, players who are

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Speaker 3: talented going to maybe lower programs just to have more

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Speaker 3: opportunities on the court, that it is very difficult to

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Speaker 3: stay on top of the heap if you're a top

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Speaker 3: twenty five team. So scheduling being scheduled against other top

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Speaker 3: ten teams is exactly the sort of elixir that you

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Speaker 3: want at this point in the season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we could talk big picture about it, and the

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Speaker 5: big picture is exactly what Rich said. Top ten teams

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Speaker 5: and just teams in general. Going on the road in

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Speaker 5: college basketball ain't easy. Nope, and that's why we and

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Speaker 5: Brian you you will occasionally send text to the group

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Speaker 5: chat when we get one of those unranked home favorites.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we love that.

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Speaker 5: But here's the thing about these trends and all of

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Speaker 5: these situational angles. If we know about them, sportsbooks know

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Speaker 5: about them. And I think what I'm seeing this year,

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Speaker 5: not only with top ten teams, you have to pay

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Speaker 5: the premium if you want to bet a home team

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Speaker 5: in college basketball. Home field home court advantage has I

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Speaker 5: think become a little bit more valuable in college hoops,

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Speaker 5: and it's because a lot of the things that we're

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Speaker 5: talking about. These teams are a little more new in

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Speaker 5: terms of their style, in terms of how they fit together,

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Speaker 5: and it's just easier to play at home when you're

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Speaker 5: an eighteen to twenty two year old kid. Going on

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Speaker 5: the road and dealing with that environment can be very,

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Speaker 5: very difficult. How about this against the spread top ten

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Speaker 5: teams on the road this year twenty two and thirty

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01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 5: eight ouch, I mean, it is not easy to go

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Speaker 5: on the road and win the Houston Kansas game. Specifically,

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Speaker 5: I know Duke Carolina, I get it. It's Duke Carolina.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna take away the flowers from that matchup.

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Speaker 5: But the biggest part of the Houston Kansas game that's intriguing.

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Speaker 5: And this is Houston now in the Big twelve, right

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Speaker 5: their first season in the Big Twelve. They're going on

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Speaker 5: the road and facing a lot of these teams. They

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Speaker 5: went on the road, they beat BYU, they won on

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Speaker 5: the road, beat Texas in overtime the other night. Their

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01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 5: two losses this year are both on the road and

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Speaker 5: conference play Iowa State TCU. No shame there, But how

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Speaker 5: about this. Houston is favored. Yeah, on the road at

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01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 5: fog Allen Fieldhouse. I think that shows you how much

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01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,799
Speaker 5: respect the Cougars get and deserve in the market.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I love the way they defend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're the college basketball version of the

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. You know, they are just relentless and I

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01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: just can't help but wonder are they gonna Headbut anybody today,

1410
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 2: like Kyle van Noy, is someone gonna do their Za

1411
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 2: Flowers by fumbling or turning it over and then like

1412
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: cutting their finger by slamming their hands into the bench

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01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 2: or I'm kidding, but I love watching Houston defend. One

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01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: of my main question is Duke shoots it so well

1415
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: from three point range? And when you're on the road

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01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 2: and it's a top ten matchup, how good are you

1417
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 2: from distance against the North Carolina team that plays great

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01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: defense collectively, especially guarding the three. Yeah, so how Duke

1419
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: shoots it from outside? I can't wait to see that.

1420
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: And then our guy Dalton connect might have to talk

1421
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: about him and prop it up right around the corner.

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01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 2: This guy's been on a heater twenty five plus in

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01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 2: six straight games. So against Kentucky, who's a lot of

1424
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 2: fun to watch offensively, but they're the opposite of Houston. Defensively,

1425
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: they do not defend like Houston does not even close.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and what you said about Kansas and

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01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 3: how they guard you know, or or excuse me, North

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01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 3: Carolina and how they guard out by the three point

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01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: line against a good three point three point shooting team.

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Speaker 4: It's all about ball movement. You know.

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01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 3: You talk to any college basketball coach when it comes

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01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 3: to getting open shots from distance, it's making the extra pass,

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01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 3: finding the open man, and and and you know, if

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01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 3: that's if that's the strategy, if that's the way to win, well,

1435
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: then you got to find a way to get that

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01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 3: extra pass, which means that you got to get the

1437
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 3: ball down court in a hurry, set up your offense,

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01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 3: and and and play that way because it's a half

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 3: court game. If you're going to be a team that's

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 3: winning from distance.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one game we won't talk about today, but is

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Speaker 5: a top ten matchup tomorrow Perdue Wisconsin. This is another

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 5: one that in Wisconsin's coming off of that loss. So

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01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 5: they probably won't be in the top ten come Monday,

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01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 5: but tomorrow they'll they'll be in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: It's good for promoting the game tomorrow, you know.

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01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 4: Graver tomorrow.

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01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 5: But let's be honest, Wisconsin still a really good team.

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01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 5: They had a big lead on the road, struggling on

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01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 5: the road. Top ten team struggling on the road. Where

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01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 5: if we just heard that. But I want to call

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01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 5: my attention to Purdue because they're they're the road team tomorrow,

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01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:02,799
Speaker 5: and they're a little bit different than Purdue in prior years,

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01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 5: where I think they maybe are better suited to win

1455
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 5: it all this year than in prior's. I think Zach

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01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 5: Edy really looks different, like he looks like he's slimmed down,

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01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 5: he's in shape. So I think Purdue is another team

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01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 5: tomorrow Houston Today, we'll get some of these top ten

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01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 5: matchups and we'll really start to formulate our opinions as

1460
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 5: we get into March, because man, there's a lot of

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01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 5: good teams in college about not a lot of great teams,

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01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 5: but a lot of good teams in college basketball this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Jared Smith FSR betting analyst Rich Ornberger Pan

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Speaker 2: stay at all American is with us. I'm Brian No

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Speaker 2: get your NBA actual boy, maybe competitive darts. You know,

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Speaker 2: we haven't had that and prop it up just yet,

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Speaker 2: but maybe maybe someone's got a today.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Prop it up player plays.

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Speaker 2: Ah, yes, the prop bet market. We will start with you,

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Speaker 2: Jarrett Smith. What is something that you are feasting your

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Speaker 2: eyes on here?

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Speaker 5: Well, my first piece of advice is, if you like

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Speaker 5: because on average the public does tend to like the overs.

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Speaker 5: In terms of specific plays for this game, I will

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Speaker 5: give you one that I really really like, and it's

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Speaker 5: more of a general play. I like the under in

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Speaker 5: the sacks for the game. The total sacks in the game,

1504
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 5: I like under four and a half. And the reason

1505
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 5: is these are two of the best quarterbacks in the NFL,

1506
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 5: just like last year. Remember my big handicapped last year

1507
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 5: was oh, this Eagles pass rush all these sacks. Yeah,

1508
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 5: you still got to sack the quarterback and it's not

1509
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 5: easy to sack Patrick Mahome. Same thing with Brock Purdy,

1510
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 5: second and third respectively in pressure to sack rate, which

1511
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 5: means they're the best in the NFL at absorbing that pressure,

1512
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 5: not taking the sack. The Niners are kind of an

1513
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 5: average sack team. The Chiefs are above average. But I

1514
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 5: think the game scripts and the fact that these quarterbacks

1515
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 5: elite at avoiding sacks under four and a half sacks

1516
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 5: in the game, I think is a fantastic wager for

1517
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 5: this one.

1518
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna jump in here and talk specifically

1519
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 3: about things that we've seen over the season or in

1520
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 3: recent memory, like, for example, how many yards on the

1521
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 3: ground the San Francisco forty nine ers gave up to

1522
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,839
Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions in the NFC Championship game. With Isaiah

1523
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 3: Pacheco rushing the ball the way he was against the

1524
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens, especially in the first half. I like the

1525
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 3: over on his rushing yardage total at sixty seven and

1526
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,799
Speaker 3: a half. And then Rock Party. Look, he's been lauded

1527
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 3: or detracted as a game manager throughout the past three weeks.

1528
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 4: Let me give you a stat though.

1529
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 3: Party's turnover worthy throw rate, which is the amount of

1530
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 3: interceptions dropped by drop by opponents. It is compared to

1531
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 3: his touchdown rate three point five percent, which is twenty

1532
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 3: fourth out of thirty two qualified quarterbacks. So I think

1533
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 3: he throws a pick in this game. Yeah, so I'm

1534
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 3: gonna go over the half interception on brock Perty Okay.

1535
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna go college hoops on you here.

1536
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I'm going Dalton connect. I'm going over twenty

1537
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 2: four and a half.

1538
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 4: Okay.

1539
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: The Tennessee player is just on a heater over here.

1540
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, man, he shoots a lot.

1541
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: He's had twenty field goal attempts in each of the

1542
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 2: past five games, and in four of them he's made

1543
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: double digit field goals, right, and all four of those

1544
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: he scored thirty plus points.

1545
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: So he shoots it a lot. He makes it a lot.

1546
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take.

1547
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 2: Over twenty four and a half against Kentucky today, All right,

1548
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 2: come it up next the QB Showdown. Oh what's going on, everybody?

1549
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 2: Happy Saturday to you. Super Bowl fifty eight little more

1550
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: than a.

1551
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: Week away, and we've got our eye on it.

1552
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 2: We definitely have our eye on Super Bowl fifty eight

1553
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: and the q BE matchup here. Patrick mahomes as decorated

1554
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 2: as it can get this early in his career, right

1555
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 2: his third trip to the Super Bowl. He's been a

1556
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 2: starter for six seasons, been in the AFC, championship game

1557
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 2: every single season, which is insane. And these playoff numbers, guys,

1558
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: they keep getting more and more ridiculous. So consider this, Mahomes.

1559
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 2: It's a full season's worth of postseason games now, right,

1560
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:29,759
Speaker 2: He's got seventeen of them. His record is fourteen and three.

1561
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 2: Just pause and think about that for a second. If

1562
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 2: you look at the twenty twenty three regular season, there

1563
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: was only one team that got to thirteen wins. That

1564
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 2: was the Baltimore Ravens, and eight of their games were

1565
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 2: against non playoff teams, right, So think about it. Ravens

1566
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 2: got to thirteen and four eight games against non playoff teams.

1567
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:55,799
Speaker 1: Mahomes in his.

1568
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: Career is fourteen and three in the postseason, obviously playing

1569
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 2: nothing but playoff teams.

1570
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: It's extraordinary.

1571
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: And you look at the quarterbacks that he's lost to,

1572
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 2: It's Joe Burrow and Tom Brady.

1573
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: That's the list. Wow, it's the.

1574
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: List he's lost to in the postseasons. Bad, right, We

1575
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: know it's the ultimate team game. It's not just about

1576
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: who's that quarterback. Tom Brady's better than Eli Manning. But

1577
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 2: when you look at that and what it takes to

1578
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: beat Mahomes in the super Bowl. It is not going

1579
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: to be an easy task for the forty nine ers,

1580
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: but it absolutely can be done. One other thing, real

1581
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 2: fast that stands out to me. As good as Mahomes

1582
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: was last week against the Ravens number one defense and

1583
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 2: all that, as good as his numbers were, his career

1584
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 2: playoff passer rating dropped slightly.

1585
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 4: Right.

1586
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 2: The thing is how good he was against the Ravens.

1587
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: His career numbers dropped just a little bit.

1588
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 4: Betcham.

1589
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 2: It just shows you how great he's been collectively. Where

1590
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: his passer rating is still one oh six point three

1591
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, it's extraordinary.

1592
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 4: You know, when I look at these two quarterbacks, one

1593
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 4: of them has the it factor and the other one

1594
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 4: at times has the ick factor, and I like it.

1595
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate to say this, the best thing you've

1596
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 5: ever said on this air.

1597
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate to say this about Brock Purdy, But

1598
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 3: there are times where he gives me the ick. He

1599
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 3: gives me that feeling where I'm like, I, you know,

1600
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 3: I just don't I just don't see it. And then

1601
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 3: there's other there are other times where he's brilliant where

1602
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 3: he throws the football and it's like the football has

1603
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 3: eyes and it's just as good as Tom Brady ever

1604
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 3: did it. It's just as good as Patrick Mahomes ever

1605
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 3: did it, or Aaron Rodgers or any of the greats,

1606
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 3: right because you can you can see that he understands

1607
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 3: where the ball needs to be and he has the

1608
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: talent to get it there. But it's not as consistent

1609
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 3: as a guy like Patrick Mahomes. You know, in fact,

1610
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: you know, you start thinking about some of the things.

1611
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 3: Now we've seen this postseason in the second half or

1612
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 3: when trailing, and party's numbers in the postseason they tell

1613
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 3: a completely different story than who this guy was in

1614
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 3: the regular season. In the regular season, when he was

1615
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 3: tied with a team or trailing in the second half,

1616
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 3: their record is one in four. He's had a fifty

1617
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 3: seven completion percentage. He's thrown two interceptions to six excuse me,

1618
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 3: two touchdowns to six interceptions.

1619
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 4: Not good.

1620
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 3: Now, those numbers have obviously boosted in the postseason because

1621
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 3: when tied or trailing in the second half, he's two

1622
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 3: and zero now sixty six percent completion percentage, one touchdown

1623
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 3: to zero interception. So he's turned it on in the postseason,

1624
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 3: and so maybe the big lights of the postseason it

1625
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 3: doesn't dwarf his ability to handle the moment will see.

1626
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 3: You know, I still say that because he hasn't even

1627
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 3: played two full seasons yet. We've only seen him in

1628
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 3: the postseason twice, and one of them he had this

1629
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 3: great excuse in the NFC Championship game, and I'm sure

1630
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 3: he would want to finish the game, so it's barely

1631
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 3: fair calling in an excuse. But his elbow exploded four

1632
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 3: plays or four throws into the NFC Championship Game a

1633
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 3: season ago. So we have such a limited sample size

1634
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 3: on brock Purty that it is hard to tell who

1635
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 3: he is yet. But I know who Patrick Mahomes is because,

1636
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 3: as you mentioned in laid out perfectly, six straight AFC

1637
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 3: Championship games, four Super Bowl appearances, two wins, already looking

1638
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 3: for his third. This guy is sensational. He has the

1639
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 3: it factor. He's great under pressure. It doesn't matter if

1640
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 3: they're leading or trailing. He finds a way to finish games.

1641
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 3: In terms of the matchup. If we're looking at quarterback alone,

1642
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 3: Mahomes has the nod for me.

1643
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, if you're just basing it off of

1644
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 5: skill set, you know, I think gets obvious. Who has

1645
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 5: the edge here. I will give Brack a lot of credit.

1646
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 5: I thought the NFC title game was the best game

1647
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 5: of his career. And you know, not just the passing

1648
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 5: thirty one out of thirty six. I mean, excuse me,

1649
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 5: twenty one out of thirty which are twenty out of

1650
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 5: thirty one, excuse me, which isn't great. But the rushing

1651
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 5: is what was great. That is where I kind of

1652
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 5: separate him, because I didn't think he had the ability

1653
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 5: to make plays with his legs, extend plays, and he did.

1654
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that's the type of quarterback he is,

1655
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 5: but in a pressure spot, he made all the throws

1656
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 5: that needed to be made, didn't make any mistakes, even

1657
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 5: made a few plays with his legs, and that's great.

1658
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 5: I think the interesting dynamic in this game right, this

1659
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 5: is a betting show. At its core. Everything is price dependent.

1660
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 5: So yeah, if all things are equal, Mahomes is a

1661
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 5: better quarterback than Brock perty he should be the MVP

1662
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 5: of the game if the Chiefs win the things that's

1663
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 5: interesting for the Niners, though. You can make a lot

1664
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 5: of cases about MVP if the Niners win this game.

1665
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 5: But the thing that is intriguing to me from a

1666
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 5: historical standpoint, from a betting standpoint, in this game, the

1667
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 5: quarterback that is favored in the game typically is the

1668
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 5: MVP favorite. Well that's not the case here. The favorite

1669
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 5: in the game is the Niners by almost the field goal.

1670
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes is the MVP favorite. So as great as

1671
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 5: Mahomes is and the greatness is unquestioned if he wins

1672
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 5: the MVP again this year, I mean, I don't know

1673
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 5: the tier he starts to get into Brady's tier, you know,

1674
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 5: still has a little ways to go, but kind of

1675
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 5: getting there. But in terms of a wager to make,

1676
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 5: I think Rock Berdy is undervalued win the MVP in

1677
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 5: this game. I mean, the Niners are favored in the

1678
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 5: game and he is not the favorite to win the MVP.

1679
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,560
Speaker 5: So while the Mahomes stuff is great, he's going to

1680
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 5: be a very popular pick to win the MVP. I

1681
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 5: think we might be getting a little bit of a

1682
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 5: discount on mister Irrelevant just because San Francisco's favored and

1683
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 5: the quarterback of the favorite usually gets a little more

1684
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 5: respect in the market.

1685
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: You could be right.

1686
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: I just look at Kyle Shanahan is not gonna be

1687
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: stupid like Todd munkin that that's the first thing, right,

1688
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 2: Like the Ravens were just had amnesia, like, oh, they

1689
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 2: forgot they were the number one rushing team in the NFL.

1690
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: Like Kyle Shanahan is going to run the football against

1691
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, right, that's just the matchup that favors them,

1692
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: and so Party throwing it against the Chiefs defense.

1693
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't, it's just it's not it's.

1694
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 2: Not the weakness of the Chiefs defense, it's the rush

1695
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 2: defense has been the problem throughout the season. So going

1696
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: up against a Niner strength running the ball, I expect

1697
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey to have a really good game, so that

1698
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 2: that might take away some of the possibility of Party

1699
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 2: winning MVP. But I hear you, Jared, Like, listen, if

1700
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 2: we could be completely fair, there's been so much emotion

1701
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: when it comes.

1702
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: To brock Purty.

1703
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like if you just look at him in

1704
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs, it has been a mixed bag. It's been

1705
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 2: good at times, it's been bad at times, and you

1706
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,759
Speaker 2: could look at both. But that's what it's been. Against

1707
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,799
Speaker 2: the Packers, it was well, he struggled with the little

1708
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 2: mist out there. You know, he had a hard time

1709
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 2: gripping the football. He had some bad decisions, he had

1710
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: some overthrows, he was not crisp, but when it was

1711
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 2: winning time, he put together a huge drive six for seven.

1712
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,799
Speaker 2: He was clutched when he needed to be. Then against

1713
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 2: the Lions, first half wasn't good as passer rating was

1714
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 2: thirty nine at halftime, had an interception in the first half,

1715
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 2: but then in the second half he made some big

1716
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 2: plays with his legs. He got a little bit of

1717
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 2: luck with the ball that bounced off a niner of

1718
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 2: a Lions dB into Ayuk's hands. Like you know what,

1719
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,799
Speaker 2: It's been a mixed bag and he's come up big

1720
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 2: in the big moments, but he's also at the same

1721
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 2: time left something to be desired. I just look at

1722
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 2: Purty and I say, my big beef the whole time

1723
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 2: is my hunch is that he's a less good looking

1724
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 2: Jimmy G. Right, Like Jimmy G put up numbers, he

1725
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 2: won a lot of games. And then when he was

1726
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 2: on this same stage against the Chiefs and he had

1727
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 2: an open Emmanuel Sanders, he overthrew him and he didn't

1728
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: make the big play. And that's where I wonder what

1729
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: will happen if brock Purty is in that same situation,

1730
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: and we'll get our answer if that's the case on Sunday.

1731
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: But that's the truth.

1732
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 2: It's been a mixed bag as far as brock Purties,

1733
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 2: his performances in the postseason, and one other thing to

1734
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 2: throw in there. It is a huge advantage for the

1735
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 2: Niners that he's on a rookie deal and he's supported

1736
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 2: by a who's who supporting cast. But you think about

1737
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: this with brock Purty. His base salary this season is

1738
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 2: eight hundred and seventy thousand dollars. That's basically like a

1739
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 2: dollar ninety five comparatively, speaking with the top quarterbacks. Look

1740
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 2: at what Mahomes makes and this is probably the biggest

1741
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 2: compliment you could pay Mahomes. It's such an advantage when

1742
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: your quarterback is on a rookie contract. But you look

1743
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 2: at last postseason, who did Mahomes go through? Trevor Lawrence

1744
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 2: rookie deal at the time, Joe Burrow rookie deal at

1745
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 2: the time, Jalen Hurts rookie deal at the time. The

1746
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 2: Chiefs beat all of those teams and route to winning

1747
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. And so you look at Purty on

1748
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,560
Speaker 2: a rookie deal, huge advantage for the Niners, but Mahomes

1749
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 2: has proven that he can beat quarterbacks and teams in

1750
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: that same situation, So that's pretty interesting in my mind.

1751
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 3: Also, Yeah, I look at the brock Party debate and

1752
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 3: I think and I think that it is way overblown

1753
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 3: to say that brock Party is more than a game

1754
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 3: manager because we don't know. And it's also way overblown

1755
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 3: to call him a game manager because we don't know,

1756
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 3: like it's just so early. The reason why it's so

1757
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 3: easy to see and we have such clarity when we're

1758
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 3: talking about Patrick Holmes is because we've seen him in

1759
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 3: a variety of circumstances, not just on the playing field,

1760
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 3: but just what you describe Brian. The fact that he's

1761
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 3: won on a rookie contract and now he's won after

1762
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 3: the big deal. He's won with good quality offensive superstars

1763
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 3: around him, and Tyreek Hill gets traded and they win

1764
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl that year, you know, And don't get

1765
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 3: me wrong, I'm not throwing shade at trafis Kelsey. Obviously

1766
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 3: he's a Hall of Fame tight end and arguably the

1767
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 3: best to ever play the game. But he's suffered some

1768
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 3: and the team has suffered some sacrifices to make way

1769
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 3: for a large contract for Mahomes, and he's he's in

1770
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 3: turn given them what they were hoping was that he

1771
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 3: would bet the talent that he has will balance out

1772
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 3: the sacrifice in payroll that they've made to keep him

1773
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 3: on that roster. Is brock Purdy that quarterback? I mean,

1774
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 3: right now, if you squint and you look into the

1775
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 3: future and he gets paid half a billion dollars, can

1776
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine ers win with brock party No?

1777
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 3: I mean that like, that's That's that's my problem with

1778
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 3: this debate. It's like, I know it's too early to

1779
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 3: have it, but for those who are so ardently defending

1780
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:20,759
Speaker 3: brock Purty, is something something even nearing the elite level

1781
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 3: that you know, when we discuss elite, we're talking about

1782
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 3: players like from the past, because we know their careers

1783
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 3: are over almost over, you know, the Tom Brady's of

1784
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 3: the world, or the Patrick Mahomes obviously, or the Drew

1785
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 3: Breeses or the the the Peyton mannings like like, we

1786
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 3: we know, we've we know what that looks like, I mean,

1787
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 3: are we are we putting him in that conversation? Look

1788
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 3: is he off to a great start with his career, Yeah,

1789
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 3: there's no question about it, but getting so far over

1790
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 3: our skis and acting like pretending like this team wouldn't

1791
01:31:54,160 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 3: be better with Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, but

1792
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 3: justin Herbert Jalen Hurts. I mean, the list is about

1793
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 3: twelve deep, maybe fifty Dak Prescott before I get to

1794
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 3: Brock Purdy's name.

1795
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not I'm not saying it.

1796
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 3: I'm not bringing it up to condemn him, because, like

1797
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 3: I said, he's off to a great start, but he's

1798
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 3: not those guys yet.

1799
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 4: So let's stop pretending.

1800
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 5: Well, that's the difference in this conversation. Everyone thinks that

1801
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 5: because we are not complimenting someone, we're putting them down.

1802
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 5: It's okay to just say Purdy's not as good as

1803
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,640
Speaker 5: Mahomes Like, that's not a disc it's Purdy. He's not

1804
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 5: as good as Josh Allen. That's not a disc to Purdy.

1805
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 5: There's one or two or three guys on the whole

1806
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 5: planet that are as good as those guys in the NFL.

1807
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 5: And I think when you look at what Brock like,

1808
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 5: I love Brock. I think Brock is the perfect quarterback

1809
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 5: for the system that he is running. He did lead

1810
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 5: the league in QBR this year, Like he had some

1811
01:32:55,960 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 5: really nice statistics in his corner. But when you watch

1812
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 5: him play and then you watch Mahomes play and I

1813
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 5: go back to the game, like it was like the

1814
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 5: perfect like back and forth the Packers Niners game followed

1815
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,600
Speaker 5: by the Bill's Chiefs game. Like when you watch the

1816
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 5: quarterbacks of those teams play and then you watch the

1817
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 5: Bills Chiefs game, it is a different level of quarterbacking.

1818
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 5: And it doesn't make what Jordan Love and Brock Purty

1819
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 5: doing wrong. It's not they're not doing anything bad. But

1820
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 5: you can't be like there's only one guy that can

1821
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,600
Speaker 5: be the best, and it's it's not a diss to

1822
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 5: other people when we're saying you're not as good as

1823
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 5: this person. It's just these are the facts. It kind

1824
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 5: of actually reminds me of the Hardball situation from earlier

1825
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 5: in the show, right, Like, just because we're saying JJ

1826
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 5: McCarthy's not as gonna be drafted as high as Caleb

1827
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 5: Williams doesn't make JJ McCarthy bad. It just he's a

1828
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 5: different quarterback. He's not the typical prospect that you would

1829
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 5: want to be a number one pick. Patrick Mahomes in hindsight,

1830
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 5: should have been the number one pick in that draft, right,

1831
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 5: But now that we can watch his career bloss them,

1832
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 5: it has turned into something that it is hard to

1833
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 5: put into words. Guys, I ask former players analysts every week, quantify,

1834
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 5: how do we explain what we're seeing with Patchwork's it

1835
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 5: is inexplicable. He is that good. So to not compare

1836
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 5: Brock Purty to that, It's okay and have a good career.

1837
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 2: No, it reminds me of Jimmy G a lot because

1838
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 2: they weren't quite at the pretty police level.

1839
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 5: Sure were pretty more than Jimmy G.

1840
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 2: Though those people, those people come after your juggular if

1841
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 2: you say anything slightly critical of Purty. But there were

1842
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 2: Jimmy G police out there as well. Where this guy

1843
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,799
Speaker 2: just wins and look at this and look at his numbers,

1844
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 2: and if you look at Jimmy G, just to throw

1845
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 2: it out there and compare it to Purty.

1846
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:51,759
Speaker 1: Okay.

1847
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty two with the Niners, Jimmy G

1848
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: sixteen touchdown passes, four interceptions before he hurt. He had

1849
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 2: a passer rating of one to oh three this past

1850
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 2: season with the Raiders, seven touchdown passes, nine interceptions. His

1851
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 2: passer rating is under seventy eight. He was benched for

1852
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell, a rookie. Okay, Like, if you don't think

1853
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 2: the supporting cast has a lot to do with the

1854
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 2: success of Jimmy g with the Niners, Rock Purty with

1855
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 2: the Niners, you're just not being objective. And I don't

1856
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 2: know why there's such monstrous pushback if you say that,

1857
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 2: as if you're taking all credit away from Purdy and

1858
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 2: you're saying he's a complete bump.

1859
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: No one with eyes are saying that, right. But you're right.

1860
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 2: People are very sensitive and they overreact, and that's why

1861
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 2: so many of these conversations turn dumb so fast, where

1862
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't think anybody who says something critical

1863
01:35:55,560 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 2: of Purdy takes away every single shred of it and

1864
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 2: props for the guy.

1865
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't think those people are out there.

1866
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 5: It's an bosser story, Frankly, it is.

1867
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: The guy's elbow was jacked up last year. He's the

1868
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 2: last pick of the draft. He leads the league in

1869
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 2: passer rating, He's put up MVP worthy numbers. It's a

1870
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:16,679
Speaker 2: tremendous story.

1871
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 8: It is.

1872
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 2: I don't know why you can't say something that's halfway

1873
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 2: critical of him, and you're painted into this corner as

1874
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 2: if you're the biggest hater out there.

1875
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: It's stupid.

1876
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 3: The last thing I'll say about brock Party. The San

1877
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine ers are an Instagram filter. It doesn't

1878
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 3: matter they Yeah, it doesn't matter which quarterback played in

1879
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 3: this system. They would look way better than they did

1880
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 3: before going through that filter. If you put Kirk Cousins

1881
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 3: in San Francisco this year, they're going to the super Bowl.

1882
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 3: If you put Geno Smith in the San Francisco system

1883
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 3: this year, they're going to the super Bowl. Brock Party

1884
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 3: is off to a great start with his career, but

1885
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 3: we're looking at him through the Instagram filter of the

1886
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine.

1887
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 5: That was like an elite, an elite metaphor my friend,

1888
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,639
Speaker 5: thank you, and it's it's more PC.

1889
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 1: I go push up bra, that push up bra for

1890
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I like the Instagram filter.

1891
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 5: Might Instagram filter, I think a little more. The kids

1892
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 5: will the kids will enjoy that one more.

1893
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 4: I'm right, I'm trying to be trying to be HIF

1894
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 4: to the kids.

1895
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,919
Speaker 2: We've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR,

1896
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:34,680
Speaker 2: betting analyst. I'm Brian No coming up next. I realized

1897
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 2: something about analytics this week that I'd like to share

1898
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 2: with you guys. I think it makes sense. You'll have

1899
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 2: to be the judge that's around the corner. It's Fox

1900
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 2: Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff presented by bet MGM. It

1901
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff presented by bet MGM.

1902
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 2: I was doing some thinking this week about analytics. After

1903
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 2: ban one eight hundred Gambler Campbell came up snake eyes

1904
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 2: by going for it twice on fourth down when field.

1905
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 5: Goal Peter Griffin like, yeah, you have twenty Peter.

1906
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: Hit me, hit me twenty one. Hit me.

1907
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 4: Hit me, you have thirty.

1908
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 1: Hit me.

1909
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 2: But I read a few articles about analytics and one

1910
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 2: stood out to me. It was on the Athletic and

1911
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 2: it was talking about the worst decisions analytically in the playoffs,

1912
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 2: and one of the quote unquote worst decisions was another

1913
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: game with Dan Campbell where he.

1914
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 1: Didn't go for it.

1915
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so this was the Lions hosting the Rams. It

1916
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 2: was fourth and four, Lions have the ball at their

1917
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 2: own thirty one yard line, they have a one point lead,

1918
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 2: about seven minutes to go in the game. Okay, they

1919
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 2: elected to punt. Jack Fox punted it sixty yards down

1920
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 2: to the Rams nine yard hardline. The win probability by

1921
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 2: deciding to punt and not go for it at your

1922
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 2: own thirty one when it's fourth and four minus four

1923
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,640
Speaker 2: point five percent, that's what analytics said. It is like,

1924
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 2: you should have gone for it on fourth and four

1925
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 2: from your thirty one with the lead midway through the

1926
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and it's like, what are we doing at

1927
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Speaker 2: this point? And this is the realization I came to.

1928
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Speaker 2: Numbers don't feel, but people do. It's really that simple.

1929
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Speaker 2: Numbers are emotionless. It is just raw data. The raw

1930
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Speaker 2: data says if you go for it here on fourth

1931
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Speaker 2: and four, even at your own thirty one, you're gonna

1932
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Speaker 2: win x percent of the time. If you punt it,

1933
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna win x percent of the time. The advantage

1934
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 2: is punting it. Those are just raw numbers, But it's

1935
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Speaker 2: not gonna feel that way. If you go for it,

1936
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 2: don't get it. Does it feel like you have a

1937
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 2: four point five percent better chance to win the game.

1938
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 2: Your players don't feel that, the crowd doesn't feel that.

1939
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 2: Like emotion momentum, it matters in sports, in football, and

1940
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:09,720
Speaker 2: that's where I'm not against all things analytics, but that's

1941
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 2: where I think we miss it is we're just looking

1942
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Speaker 2: at the percentages the numbers. That's why feel matters, because

1943
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Speaker 2: it can't just be raw numbers. The situation and the

1944
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 2: worst case scenario. If you gamble and don't get it,

1945
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,679
Speaker 2: it has to factor into your judgment when you decide

1946
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 2: whether to go for it or punt it. And so

1947
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Speaker 2: I just wouldn't be so beholden to the numbers as

1948
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 2: if there's nothing else to consider but the numbers. I

1949
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Speaker 2: don't look at it like that at all.

1950
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Speaker 3: So I have kids, and I know one day my

1951
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 3: kids are going to be drivers. And if you look

1952
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Speaker 3: at motor vehicle death rate and you're a parent thinking

1953
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Speaker 3: about giving your kids keys to a car, it sounds

1954
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 3: like a proposition you would never be interested in, right,

1955
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Speaker 3: So I think this is back in twenty twenty one,

1956
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 3: it was fourteen point three people per one hundred thousand

1957
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Speaker 3: die in a motor wreck, and you think about that

1958
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 3: and you're just like, really, I mean fourteen out of

1959
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand people will die in a car crash.

1960
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Speaker 3: There's no way I'm going to give my keys to

1961
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Speaker 3: my kids, to my kids. I mean, it just doesn't

1962
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 3: make But then you start to take out the vacuum

1963
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Speaker 3: that numbers exist in and you say, well, how many

1964
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Speaker 3: of those drivers were drunk?

1965
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Speaker 4: You know, how many of those people were bad drivers?

1966
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Speaker 7: Many?

1967
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Speaker 3: How old were those drivers and what level of experience

1968
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Speaker 3: did they have? How did these accidents occur? You take

1969
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Speaker 3: away all nuanced when you just discuss numbers when we're

1970
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,640
Speaker 3: just using analytics to make decisions for us, because guess what,

1971
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 3: sometimes analytics could be faulty sometimes, and this happens. Somebody

1972
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 3: misrepresents numbers and it gets baked into an algorithm, and

1973
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,600
Speaker 3: the outcomes are so far down the line that you

1974
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 3: don't even remember or can even go back and adjust

1975
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 3: for the accidental misnumbering of something, you know, I mean

1976
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 3: miles ago. So all of a sudden you have this

1977
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 3: outcome where it says, oh, well you got to go

1978
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 3: for it here, and it's like, well why, Well the

1979
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 3: answer could be because we screwed up the math, Like

1980
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 3: that's why. Also, it omits when we're talking about just

1981
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 3: using analytics for decision making, It omits all of the

1982
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Speaker 3: intangible variables that go into determining these outcomes, like how

1983
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 3: smart is it as a coach in terms of your

1984
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 3: reputation or the point in the game you're at to

1985
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 3: go for this fourth down? Right, because you have to

1986
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 3: talk about the feeling of the locker room too. If

1987
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 3: I lose this game because I make the decision for

1988
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 3: us to go for it on this fourth down, do

1989
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 3: I lose the locker room? Do I lose trust in

1990
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 3: my players for making too reckless of a decision. So

1991
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 3: it removes emotion from the situation, and numbers don't account

1992
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 3: for momentum. When you're in a battle, nobody is sitting

1993
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 3: there quantifying odds. What you're doing is you are seething

1994
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 3: and you're foaming out the mouth, and you're waiting for

1995
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 3: your next opportunity as an offensive lineman to pop someone

1996
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 3: or a defensive lineman to get after the quarterback. The

1997
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 3: numbers don't account for any of that, And so I

1998
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,520
Speaker 3: get it. You can look at life in a vacuum

1999
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 3: and you could say, well, fourteen out of every hundred

2000
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 3: thousand people behind the wheel will die. So I'm never

2001
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 3: gonna let my kids drive. Or you could be a

2002
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 3: good teacher. You could teach your kids the rules of

2003
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 3: the road. You can make sure that they understand the

2004
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 3: value of their life and to never jeopardize it by

2005
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 3: drinking and driving. You could talk to them about how

2006
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 3: if you feel unsafe in a vehicle with somebody who's

2007
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 3: driving you around, that you're always going to be there

2008
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 3: available to bail them out of that situation or get

2009
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Speaker 3: them an uber car or find another way to get

2010
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Speaker 3: them home safely, as opposed to making a poor decision

2011
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 3: that makes them become one of those numbers. And I

2012
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,919
Speaker 3: think so many any of us fall victim to numbers

2013
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 3: when we're having these debates about analytics in football and

2014
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 3: we're not thinking about the bigger picture and adding context

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Speaker 3: and nuance.

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Speaker 5: The numbers can strangle you sometimes and people don't understand them,

2017
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Speaker 5: and that's why you see a lot of pushback off

2018
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Speaker 5: of it. And I get it, guys. I'm not trying

2019
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 5: to sit up here and say that you know the

2020
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 5: numbers are always right, you should always listen to them.

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Speaker 5: Here's how I would handle it if I was an

2022
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Speaker 5: owner or a GM here is how I would structure

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Speaker 5: my team to get the most out of analytics. Let's

2024
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Speaker 5: say I have a coach like Dan Campbell, who's not

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Speaker 5: the most keen on analytics. I would have a group

2026
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Speaker 5: team whatever, just like the offensive coordinator. With this little

2027
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 5: group of people, they sit up in the booth and

2028
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 5: they call the plays. I would have a group of

2029
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 5: mathematicians up in the booth, and when one of these

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Speaker 5: scenarios rides, I would get in the ear of the

2031
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 5: coach and say, you have to go for it here,

2032
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you why later, or or coach, this one's

2033
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 5: fifty to fifty. Use your gut. This one's not quite

2034
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 5: definitive on either side. It's a toss up. Use your

2035
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 5: best judgment. But in the obvious scenarios, you remove the

2036
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Speaker 5: coach and the emotion from the equation. You have an

2037
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Speaker 5: analytics guy in the booth that says, coach, I don't

2038
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 5: care what you're feeling. You have to kick this, or

2039
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 5: you have to go for this, or coach, you know what.

2040
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 5: This one's kind of on the fence. Use your best judgment.

2041
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Speaker 5: That's it. And I think that's easy because it removes

2042
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 5: the decision from the field, which, as rich said, can

2043
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 5: be very emotional, can be very heated. Takes the decision

2044
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 5: to a sterile booth with nerds crunching numbers, and then

2045
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,879
Speaker 5: you have one nerd that's the voice of the nerds,

2046
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 5: and he echoes down to the coach. Coach, you have

2047
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 5: to go for this or coach, this is a toss up.

2048
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 5: Whatever you want, Bud. That's how I would handle it

2049
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 5: if I was an owner a GM, constructing a way

2050
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 5: to get the most out of what the numbers are

2051
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 5: trying to tell me.

2052
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a random figure skating comparison.

2053
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:06,799
Speaker 4: Rough figure skating.

2054
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 1: You know your big figure skatings.

2055
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 5: No, but it's it's the most rigged sport. So it

2056
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 5: always makes me laugh to any sport where there's a

2057
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 5: judge deciding if you did well or not, it's rigged.

2058
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Speaker 4: Guys.

2059
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: Come on, all right, I don't know.

2060
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll give you that to you around the corner.

2061
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 2: Maybe a big figure skating fan.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Isaac loehen Krown with the latest? Do

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01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 1: you like figure skating?

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Speaker 11: Ilo I did when it was Nancy Antanya. I'll tell

2065
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 11: you that that was some drama.

2066
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:44,520
Speaker 1: Say the movie.

2067
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 8: Didn't.

2068
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 11: Margot Robbie portrayed.

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01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: Great job.

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Speaker 11: Did not see the movie, you know, live through it.

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01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 11: But man, you want to talk about monster ratings like

2072
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:03,679
Speaker 11: that got astronomical NFL ratings. So that'll be a goal

2073
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Speaker 11: of the Super Bowl obviously coming up some eight days

2074
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 11: from now. So from the NFL and figure skating, we

2075
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 11: go to the NBA, where on Friday night, Nikola Jokich

2076
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 11: of Denver at twenty seven points, twenty two rebounds, and

2077
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 11: twelve assists for his fifteenth triple double of the season

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Speaker 11: and their one twenty to one TOW eight victory over

2079
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 11: the Portland Trailblazers. Zion Williamson of New Orleans hit the

2080
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 11: game winning layup with three point eight to play, finish

2081
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 11: with thirty three points in the Pelicans one fourteen to

2082
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 11: one thirteen victory at San Antonio, Oka sees Shay Gildis

2083
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 11: Alexander thirty one points and their one twenty six to

2084
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 11: oh six win over Charlotte Gilda, Alexander's ninth consecutive thirty

2085
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 11: point game. He also had nine assists, five steals and

2086
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 11: three blocks. The Orlando Magic rally from his seventeen points

2087
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 11: second quarter deficit to win Minnesota what a eight to

2088
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 11: what oh six Trey Young thirty two points, seven three

2089
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 11: pointers fifteen assists in Atlanta's one twenty nine to one

2090
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 11: twenty victory of the Phoenix Suns and the Sacramento king

2091
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 11: There's one at Indiana one thirty three to one twenty

2092
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 11: two as Demontes Sabonis had twenty six points and twelve

2093
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:15,719
Speaker 11: rebounds for his thirtieth consecutive double double to break Oscar

2094
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 11: Robertson's franchise record. In college hoops, coming up at the

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Speaker 11: top of the hour from Madison Square Garden, Number one,

2096
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Speaker 11: Yucon will take on Saint John's. That's What's going on

2097
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 11: in college basketball at the top of the hour. By

2098
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Speaker 11: the way, coming up today later today at eight thirty Eastern,

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Speaker 11: it'll be the Knicks hosting the Lakers at Madison Square Gardens.

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Speaker 11: So a nice Madison Square Garden double header to look

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Speaker 11: forward to in basketball.

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Speaker 4: Back to you guys, Thanks.

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Speaker 2: I saw this random story during the week. We go

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Speaker 2: back to the twenty twenty two Olympics. So there was

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Speaker 2: a Russian figure skater, Valieva, remember her, she was amazing.

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Speaker 2: Well she was retroactively disqualified for violating anti doping rules.

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Speaker 5: Well, is it always a Russian figure skater?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's how they get down sometime.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: So nine members of Team USA will receive gold medals

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Speaker 2: and I just thought about that. I'm like, okay, those

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Speaker 2: are the numbers, right, that's kind of like analytics. You

2121
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Speaker 2: win gold Team USA, does it feel like it right?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:50,759
Speaker 1: Does it feel the same?

2124
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Speaker 2: Or you don't get the national anthem and you're on

2125
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Speaker 2: the podium and it just doesn't feel the same.

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Speaker 1: And that's how I think of analytics.

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Speaker 2: When Dan Campbell decided to go for it the first

2128
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:05,639
Speaker 2: time in the third quarter, fourth and two, they didn't

2129
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 2: get it. The numbers say that was the better way

2130
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 2: to go. Your chances of winning were better by going

2131
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 2: for it than than when you kick the field goal.

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Speaker 2: Did it feel like that? Did it feel like I

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01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 2: thought the crowd got into it. I thought it gave

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Speaker 2: the nine or some juice.

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Speaker 1: Juice.

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Speaker 2: I just thought it was too big of a gamble

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Speaker 2: in that moment. And you can sit here and say,

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Speaker 2: Josh Reynold should have caught the ball. You're right, they

2139
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 2: should have converted, but they still would have to score

2140
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Speaker 2: a touchdown for it to really pay off. And so

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01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 2: when you're up by fourteen, you have a chance to

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01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 2: go up by seventeen, make it a three score game.

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01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was too big of a gamble.

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01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 2: It'd be like you hear this all the time in

2145
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 2: gambling bankroll management. Oh yeah, if I said, you know what, Jared,

2146
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:51,600
Speaker 2: I like your pick on Colegate.

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01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna risk half of my bank roll on the

2148
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 1: Raiders today. It might work out.

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01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 2: It could work out, but it's overly a and it's

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01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 2: way too big of a gamble. You're putting yourself at

2151
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:06,680
Speaker 2: too much of a risk Spore doing that. Yeah, it's

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01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 2: too much exposure right there. And I thought that first

2153
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 2: one with Dan Campbell going for it on fourth down

2154
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 2: in the third quarter, it was too much exposure.

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01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,480
Speaker 4: I love that comparison.

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01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 3: I I really do like now I'm not saying those

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01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 3: gold medals are empty. And I'm sure many of those

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01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 3: figure skaters who are going to be I'm sure sent

2159
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 3: those gold medals in the mail, you know what I mean,

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01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 3: They're gonna rive in a post box.

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01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 4: They're gonna unwrap it. You know.

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01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 3: That's that's great, But it's still gonna feel like a

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01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 3: second place gold. Yeah, and the celebration if they would

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01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 3: have won it in that moment, fresh off the ice,

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01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:48,599
Speaker 3: still sweating from their routines, and they're on the podium, Yeah,

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01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 3: that feels good, But it doesn't feel good getting a

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01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 3: post box. I mean, some of these figure skaters maybe,

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01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 3: I'm they probably all are aware now, but maybe they're

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01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 3: gonna get this box and be like, what the hell

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01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 3: is this?

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01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 4: What is this gold medal? Four? You know, I mean,

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01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 4: that's it. So I completely agree with your point.

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01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 3: When you remove all contexts and you just talk about

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01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 3: a number or a moment in a vacuum, you are

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01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 3: missing the point. And that's kind of the reason why

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01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 3: I was talking about the emotion of the game. You know,

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01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 3: you got to read the room a little bit too.

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01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 3: You know, you got to read the room. You got

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01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 3: to make sure that your team, your players are on

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01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:28,719
Speaker 3: board with you making the decisions you're making, because even

2181
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 3: if the numbers say or suggest that you have a

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01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 3: better chance of winning the football game if you go

2183
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 3: for it in certain fourth down conversion decisions as opposed

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01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 3: to punting it, as opposed to kicking the field goal

2185
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 3: and taking the points. You better be sure that the

2186
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 3: locker room believes that, and that they don't feel like

2187
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:50,879
Speaker 3: you're being reckless with their lives because you're risking body

2188
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 3: and limb to go win a championship and you lose it.

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01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 3: And when you start drawing lines of exactly where we

2190
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 3: lost this football game, if the head coach is in

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01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 3: charge of the decisions that made you lose that game,

2192
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:07,760
Speaker 3: you bet you better be sure your players have your back.

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01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 3: Now it sounds like Dan Campbell does. I mean every

2194
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 3: player in that locker room one hundred percent supported the decision.

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01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 3: I heard zero dissension. But Brandon Staley lost his job

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01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 3: for multiple reasons, but one of them was because he

2197
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 3: was too much of a gambler and he came up

2198
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 3: on the wrong side of those bets too often on

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01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 3: fourth down. You don't want to get to that side

2200
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 3: of this number crunching you never do.

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01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think analytics was put in place to explain

2202
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 5: things and also project forward, which is really hard to do.

2203
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 5: We live in an imperfect society. Numbers are created in

2204
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 5: a vacuum, and then when the actual you know, the hypothetic,

2205
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 5: like numbers are all hypothetical. These are all hypothetical situations,

2206
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,559
Speaker 5: and then it plays out and then the numbers change,

2207
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 5: and then you have to recalibrate. It's it's hard, and

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01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 5: I understand why there's a lot of dissension about it.

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01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 5: I heard someone say, like, oh, you know, analytics was

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01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 5: created so the people who couldn't be involved in football

2211
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 5: can have jobs, and like that that's just not that's

2212
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 5: just not the right approach. Probabilities exist. That's why the

2213
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 5: casinos here in Vegas are so bright and shiny, right,

2214
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 5: They make a living off of numbers and probabilities. And

2215
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 5: I think that can be translated to the NFL. But

2216
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 5: we're just in this kind of in between period. Ten

2217
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 5: fifteen years ago, this didn't exist. Now it exists, and

2218
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 5: we have to learn how to kind of form a

2219
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 5: new game. Coaches are creatures of habit, and it's hard

2220
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 5: to get them to change their ways all.

2221
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 2: Right, We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, Jared

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Speaker 2: Smith with us FSR betting analyst on Brian No coming

2223
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 2: up next. What a week it was for Rich three

2224
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 2: and zero? Will he run it back? This week? It

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Speaker 2: trusted producer, Chris Purfett technical producer, licking his lions wounds

2229
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 2: right now, my goodness, but still made it to the

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01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 2: NFC title game. Heck of a season. Isaac Lohenkron Crushing Updates,

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01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:19,879
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01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 2: Zada up on game. They'll have you covered from coast

2233
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Speaker 2: to coast. We've got picks to make.

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01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 1: Let's dive on in.

2235
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 8: Rapid Fire.

2236
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Jared Smith, what are you thinking for Super Bowl

2237
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 2: fifty eighth?

2238
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 5: All props. I'll give you my score, final score and

2239
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 5: MVP and all that stuff next week, but we'll stick

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01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 5: to some props for the big game. In this week's

2241
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 5: edition of Rapid Fire. I already told you under four

2242
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 5: and a half sacks. This is probably my favorite prop bet,

2243
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:54,840
Speaker 5: my favorite betting angle of the Super Bowl, just because

2244
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 5: of the two quarterbacks Perdie and Mahomes two and three

2245
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 5: and pressure to sack rate, and I think as good

2246
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 5: as these defenses are, and Mahomes especially is really good

2247
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 5: at avoiding sacks, So under four and a half sacks

2248
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:07,760
Speaker 5: in the game. How about this prop? Will the game

2249
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 5: be tied after zero zero? I bet yes on this

2250
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 5: prop every single year. It won last year. It is

2251
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 5: a historically winning prop, one that I think will rise

2252
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 5: with the odds because the pros tend to bet it.

2253
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 5: And another one that is very popular amongst pros that

2254
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 5: I bet every single Super Bowl under one and a

2255
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 5: half yards for the shortest touchdown. This is hit in

2256
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 5: twenty one of the last thirty Super Bowls. One of

2257
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 5: my favorite plays, basically betting yes there will be a

2258
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 5: one yard touchdown in the game.

2259
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 3: All right, moving on to my Super Bowl player props.

2260
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay only on players this entire go round,

2261
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 3: and then we'll talk about the whole game. Quarters and

2262
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 3: halves coming up next week. In terms of the total

2263
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 3: in the spread, Isaiah Pacheco over sixty seven and a

2264
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 3: half rushing yards. I mean the Lions ran all over

2265
01:56:58,160 --> 01:56:59,600
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine ers.

2266
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:00,320
Speaker 4: I like that one.

2267
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes under a half an interception, so that means

2268
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 3: no interceptions for the Chiefs.

2269
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 4: And then Deebo Samuel over seven and a half first

2270
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 4: half rushing yards. He had three carries last game. I

2271
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 4: like this prop for this game.

2272
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh, that is an interesting angle.

2273
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:21,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Debo under fifty six and a half

2274
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 2: receiving yards. I think the Niners throw it a lot.

2275
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 2: Chiefs pass defense is stingy. I'm gonna take the Chiefs

2276
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:31,280
Speaker 2: plus two. I'm gonna take the under for the game

2277
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 2: under forty seven and a half. Maybe look at the

2278
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:37,800
Speaker 2: second half under as well with these Chiefs games in

2279
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 2: that not a whole lot of scoring in the second half.

2280
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:45,440
Speaker 2: But we'll get even near deeper in pop bets next week.

2281
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 2: But enjoy all the college hoops of the action this week.

2282
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 4: We'll see