1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The new WIT in New Waiting 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: for Me. Addition, as we look ahead to Thursday night, 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: when the Cincinnati Bengals are expected to select LSU quarterback 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow number one overall in this year's NFL Draft, 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: coming up, you'll hear from two former Bengals quarterbacks as 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: well as one of Joe Burrow's former college teammates. Plus 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: I'll take an in depth look, based on fifty plush 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: years of NFL history at the likelihood that Burrow will 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: have a highly successful NFL career. It's subjective, but I 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: think you'll find it interesting. The Bengals Booth Podcast is 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: presented by Prime Sport, the official fan, travel and hospitality 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. And here's a quick reminder 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: that you can have the latest edition of this podcast 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: the Pro football focused Draft Guide. Holy cow, I love 18 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: a good draft guide, and this sucker is one thousand, 19 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty nine pages long. PF has Joe 20 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Burrow ranked as the number one overall prospect, with two 21 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: a Toungo vloa second and Chase Young third. Among the quarterbacks, 22 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: they have Joe ranked on top in the following categories 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: most accurate, best deep ball, and best outside the pocket, 24 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: and their bottom line on Burrow reads as follows quote, 25 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: he demolished college football in a way we've never seen before. 26 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Burrow is easily the most accurate quarterback we have ever 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: scouted and looks NFL ready in every regard. The PF 28 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: Draft Guide is huge and informative, and due to the coronavirus, 29 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: we've got time to read the whole thing. We are 30 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: less than a week away from the twenty twenty Draft, 31 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: and this Thursday we invite you to join us for 32 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals pre Draft Party, presented by Bows. It's a 33 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: thirty minute show that starts at seven thirty and will 34 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: stream live on Bengals dot com and all of the 35 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: Bengals social media platforms. Fans in the Cincinnati area can 36 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: also tune in on TV on Local twelve leading up 37 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: to first round coverage. I'll be interviewing Boomer Assiasin on 38 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Thursday Night show and I spoke to him recently about 39 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: the national narrative that's been spewed for months that Burrow 40 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: will have a hard time succeeding if he winds up 41 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Boomer not only told me that he thinks 42 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: it's nonsense, but he told Burrow the same thing when 43 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: they met face to face in December. Yeah. I go 44 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: all the way back to when I first gave in 45 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: the helmet on NFL today after he had won the 46 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy, and I said, look, this is not the 47 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: dead end street for NFL quarterbacks that you may think 48 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: it is. As a matter of fact, there have been 49 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: a number of us that have flourished in Cincinnati because 50 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Mike Brown understands that he's going to put good players 51 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: around you and get the most out of you. Just 52 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: ask Kenny Anderson, asked Andy Dalton, asked Carson Palmer, and 53 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: asked me. No team has had as many of four 54 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks start at least ninety three games in the modern 55 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: era of the NFL. So that tells me that the 56 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: franchise understands about stability for that position. And I tried 57 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: to impart that on Joe, and I'm telling you now 58 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: that he's realizing that it's his hometown team, that all 59 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: of his buddies are going to be able to come 60 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: and watch and see him, which would be a whole 61 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: other set of circumstances is going to have to deal with. 62 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: But that's going to be exciting for him. I just 63 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: wish all of this was taking place in Las Vegas 64 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: so he could enjoy the entire pomp and circumstance of 65 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: this very special night. But at the end of the day, 66 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: it's his hometown team. And I equated it to Lebron 67 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: James going to the Cavaliers about three weeks ago, and 68 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: I got roasted today saying that he is Lebron James. 69 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that he's the number one overall 70 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: pick in the NFL Draft and he's coming from a 71 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: town that's two hours outside of Cincinnati. At the end 72 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: of the day, he can do for Cincinnati what Lebron 73 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: James did for Cleveland. That's the first quarterback selected in 74 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty four NFL draft. Talking about the young 75 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: Matt expected to be the first players selected in this 76 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: year's NFL Draft. Again, we hope you'll join us for 77 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: the pre draft party presented by BOS Thursday at seven thirty, 78 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: as the clock counts down to the number one pick. 79 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: It seems like we've been building up to this moment forever. 80 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: And it occurred to me this week that I started 81 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: doing Joe Burrow homework before last season was even finished. 82 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: The first person I interviewed about the Heisman Trophy winning 83 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: quarterback was one of his former teammates at Ohio State 84 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: Bengals offensive lineman Billy Price. Competitors to somebody who obviously 85 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: wants to win, got a burning passion for winning. Um 86 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: smart kid puts in the work hours and some of 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: the again, a lot of guys respect I mean we left, 88 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: ohiose they went down won the starting job. You know, 89 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: got into this system. So something I know who's willing 90 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: to work and could do. Did you root for him 91 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: at LSU? And we always watching me again my trevelermate 92 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard, so always got him on because Sam and 93 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: him't have a great relationship, So uh yeah, I always 94 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: working for him. Church Fickle has told me that he 95 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: kind of looked at him as a guy whose intangibles 96 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: were off the charts. Did you feel the same way 97 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: about him? Oh yeah, that's also said earlier captain somebody again, 98 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: here's captain in the room. So yeah, leadership is there, 99 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: definitely there. Rice mentioned that his roommate on Bengals road trips, 100 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard, is very close friends with Joe Burrow, and 101 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: Hubbard will also be among the people will talk to 102 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: on Thursday nights pre draft show. Before we get to 103 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: our next guest, here's a quick reminder that you can 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: take your Bengals pride to the next level in twenty 105 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: twenty with an official Bengals fan package from Prime Sport. 106 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: This week's primary interview is with former NFL quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, 107 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: who spent eleven years in the NFL, including two in Cincinnati. 108 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: I talked to him this week about Joe Burrow and 109 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: about his friend and former teammate Andy Dalton. All Right, Bruce, 110 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: you're the quarterback guru for Pro Football Focus, and I 111 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: want to start with a quote from PF. In no 112 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: season has anyone dominated a set of statistics or advanced 113 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: analytics the way Joe Burrow did in twenty nineteen. Of 114 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: the many things that he did well, what impressed you 115 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: the most? The thing I love the most is just 116 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: you can tell he has that. It's factor that you know, 117 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: he brings to a locker room. He's a temperature changer. He's, 118 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, a guy that knows the pulse of the 119 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: team and actually can help change it. That's what's kind 120 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: of special about him and what separates him. I mean statistics. 121 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: You know, you said he blew away every category for 122 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: PFF last year, but you could just tell his game 123 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: will transition very well to the NFL, and it's cool 124 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: to see. But aside from all that, I just think, 125 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's the same thing when you see Brady 126 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: going from New England to Tampa. My biggest thing what 127 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: Brady brings is his mindset and that's what I think 128 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has. I'm not comparing him to Brady, but 129 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm comparing his like mindset mentality. A lot of the 130 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: great players have a different type of mindset mentality that 131 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: they bring to the game, and I think Joe Burrows 132 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: one of them. Bruce, you do brow what a throw 133 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 1: videos for Pro Football Focus? Do specific throws or types 134 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: of throws stand out from your film study of Joe. 135 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: I think with Burrow, you know, really he can make 136 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: every throw. One of the stats I was going through 137 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: the other day looking at these college quarterbacks. You know, 138 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to see them in rhythm, which means there's 139 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: nobody around them. They can be in their rhythmic drop 140 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: and get the pass off with nothing that inhibits them 141 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: in the pocket. And then the next is the receiver's 142 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: either open, has a step on the dB. The dB 143 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: is either closing to the receiver or it's wide open, 144 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: so it's a pass the quarterback should hit. And then 145 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: the range was seven plus yards downfield and Burrow just 146 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: blows it away. His PFF grades and passing grades at 147 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine. And to me, you know, that's 148 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: just impressive that he could hit the passes when they're 149 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: wide open. I mean, but one of the key stats 150 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: within that is when when I go to that, it's 151 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: the uncatchable inaccurate throw. So that just means, like, you know, 152 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,359 Speaker 1: if a quarterback throws a ball and it's just uncatchable, 153 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: right and then it's inaccurate. Joe Burrow is the least 154 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: amounted around like four percent of throwing us inaccurate throw. 155 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: So it just means on whatever pass, whether it's complete 156 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: or incomplete, the ball is accurate most of the time. 157 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: That's that to me, like really popped out of me, Like, man, 158 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: this guy is really putting the ball in the right 159 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: place no matter what throw he's making. Talking to a 160 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback, Bruce Gradkowski, how would you characterize Joe's 161 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: arm strength? You know, Joe's arm strength. It's not like 162 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: he's top tier arm strength and kids, you know, sling 163 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: it through a wall or anything like that, or beyond 164 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: a knee throwing his you know, seventy yards down field. 165 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: But it's adequate and it's enough. I mean, he's definitely 166 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: got enough pop on the ball. He knows like the 167 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: right type of velocity to throw with each throw, and 168 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the most important thing. I think a 169 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: lot of people get enamored with arm strength, but at 170 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you have to have enough. 171 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: And aside from that, you have to understand the rhythm 172 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: of rhythm and timing of the offense and how to 173 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: throw and use your feet your arm together. And I 174 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: think Burrow understands that. He knows that, so there's no 175 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: throw he can't make. I mean, I don't think a 176 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: coach is going to start down up plays Patrick Mahomes 177 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: runs or Aaron Rodgers. But he's very able to make 178 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: every throw in the football field, So it's not a 179 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: concern to me. His arm strength is just okay, maybe 180 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: he's not doesn't have the strongest arm in college football 181 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: or in the NFL, But to me, you know, grading quarterbacks, 182 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: and that's not even the first thing I look at 183 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: is how strong their arm is. What is the first 184 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: thing you look at? You know? When I look at 185 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, I mean it's hard if I'm not able 186 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: to meet them and get to know them, but I 187 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: want to know their mentality. I want to see their toughness. 188 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: I want to know if they have the in factor, 189 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: if they're a temperature changer in the locker room, you know, 190 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: a leader in that sense. But I like to, you know, 191 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: watch their footwork. You know, the footwork and eyes work 192 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: together where they read their decision making. And I think 193 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: that's one of the most important thing because this asion 194 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: making you can help coast. But what's their natural abilities 195 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: and what are they doing? You know a lot of 196 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: times I'll watch these guys turnover worthy plays and it 197 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: tells me if they're just making bone headed type throws 198 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: or if throws that are getting intercepted, or they're turnover 199 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: where he plays are just football type throws that kind 200 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: of just happened. I also like to look at how 201 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: they bounce back from negative throws like that. So there's 202 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: so much that goes into that. But I think, you know, 203 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: for me, aside from the mentality, it's you know, the 204 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: accuracy of this guy, his eyes, his feet, how they 205 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: work together, his decision making, and the type of kind 206 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: of releases he elongated. Does he have a quick twitch 207 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: to him? And I think Joe Burrow, you know, checks 208 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: all those boxes. We're talking to Bruce Gradkowski from Serious 209 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: XMNFL radio and Pro Football Focus. Is taking Burrow number 210 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: one overall a no brainer in your mind? Or are 211 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: Ta and Justin Herbert close enough that you would favor 212 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: taking one of those guys and getting extra picks? No, 213 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think Burrow's foreign ahead about 214 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: those two. I like two and next after Burrow, I 215 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: really do. I think two is smooth. I think he 216 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: does a good job, and he does a good job 217 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: in college, you know, and of course everyone's saying it, 218 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be him staying being able to stay healthy. 219 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: I don't think the hips going to be a factor. 220 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: But I think I just think it's we've seen him 221 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: get hurt every year in college. How's he going to 222 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: adjust and adapt to the NFL. But I think Joe 223 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: Burrow's accuracy and just how he plays is better than 224 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: two us. So you know, if to his injury didn't 225 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: didn't happen, I'm still a Joe Burrow fan. So if 226 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm the Vengals, yeah, I don't taking Joe Burrow now. 227 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: You know, a few months ago I was also thinking, man, 228 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: you have the number one spot, you have everything on 229 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: the table for you. I'd be picking up the call. 230 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: I'd listen what other teams are offering. I mean, you 231 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: have Andy Doane that you know. I played with Andy Dolan. 232 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: I think Andy Dolan's a really good quarterback. And if 233 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm a team indeed right now a quarterback, I'd rather 234 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: sign Andy Dolan and try to draft someone later in 235 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: the rounds or even anyone outside of Burrow and Tour, 236 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: to be honest and so, but I think when you're 237 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals and you're at that spot and you have 238 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: this opportunity, you you just can't pass up a guy 239 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow. BRUF. As of now, Andy's still under contract. 240 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: What do you think will happen for him? And what 241 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: would you like to see happen for your former teammate. 242 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: You know, a few months ago, I really wanted to 243 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: see him land with either New England or Chicago. I 244 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: thought he could be a really great addition for both 245 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: those teams. You know, I think the Chicago thing with 246 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: Bill Laser there, they have some knowledge of each other, 247 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: they worked together before. I think, and don't will be 248 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: a perfect fit in New England type locker room and 249 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: what Bill Belichick does. But it does it happened yet, 250 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: And of course Chicago moved on with Nick Foles. It's tough. 251 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't know where he's gonna end up, but I 252 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: know he has good football left in him. I know 253 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: he's smart. I know you could be accurate, make good decisions. 254 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you even see Jake Gruden in Jacksonville. You know, 255 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: if I'm Jay Gruden, why not trying to bring Andy 256 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: Dolan over, a guy that knows my system, a guy 257 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: that's executed it at a high level. You have Gardner Minshew, 258 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: that's a young quarterback that you could help develop him 259 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: as well. And then in the same sense too, if 260 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: if you're Zach you're sitting here thinking, man, I got 261 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: a reliable, veteran quarterback. Do I really just want to 262 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: let him go for peanuts or do I keep them 263 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: for this first year? Joe Burrow let them kind of compete. 264 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: But Andy can also show Joe Burrow the ropes that 265 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: might take a little pressure off Joe Burrow. I think 266 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot of young quarterbacks, if they're in that situation, 267 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: that can sit back a year like Patrick Mahomes did, 268 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: like we saw Aaron Rodgers for years. Dude behind Brett Farr. 269 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: I honestly think that's the best for these quarterbacks come 270 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: out of college. If you could do that. Yeah, the 271 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: salary cap will be the question where Andy is concerned. 272 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: You were his teammate for his first two years, so 273 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: you saw him as a rookie inherit a four and 274 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: twelve team and immediately take it to the playoffs. What 275 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: traits did Andy have that allowed him to do that? 276 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: Andy was very smart, you know, coming out of college, 277 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: you don't see it often how a quarterback understands protections, 278 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: and that's a difference maker. I mean, guys can execute 279 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: an offense, understand concerts, but when you understand how you're protected, 280 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: you could do more as an offense. And I remember Andy, 281 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, just being impressed with Andy and how he 282 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: kind of understood protections already. And because me being you know, 283 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: a veteran in the league, I know, it didn't just 284 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: hit me right off the bat, and I grasped Pruden's 285 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: offense pretty quick in Tampa. But Andy was the same way. 286 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: And since he could learn and understand what we were 287 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: trying to do offensively, he could actually take charge of 288 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: the protection, redirect the protections and that was one thing 289 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: that really stood out to me. And that's when I 290 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: really think you can start as a rookie if you 291 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: can understand how you're protected, how the blocking schemes work, 292 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: and how to pick up blitzes. Man, you're you're head 293 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: and shoulders above everyone else. And also Andy's demeanor, I mean, 294 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: he he's always an even keeled guy. He never gets 295 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, too high or too low. And I think 296 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: it was great for the team, Like he just did 297 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: his job acker passer and we had some great leadership 298 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: at the time with Andrew Whitworth on offense, so it 299 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: just worked really well together. And I think Andy did 300 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: a really good job coming in understand the offense protections 301 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: and with his you know, low key demeanor, it fit 302 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: right in and you know, the guys loved him and 303 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: it it worked perfectly for the two years I was there. Man, 304 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: we had a lot of successful the playoffs twice when 305 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: I was there, So it's pretty cool to see. And 306 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: that's why, even sitting here now, I don't understand why 307 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: one of these teams want to want Andy, but it 308 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: just depends who knows what the Bengals are looking to 309 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: get for him. Final question for former NFL quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, 310 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your time. Perhaps I'm more aware of 311 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: it because it's the Bengals, but I don't ever recall 312 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: seeing so many negative stories about the likely number one 313 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: picks chances of succeeding for a particular team. You are 314 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: a Bengal for two years, as I've mentioned, twenty eleven, 315 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, two playoff teams. What's been your reaction to 316 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: all of the stories that have suggested that Burrow is 317 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: somehow doomed if he winds up in Cincinnati. You know, 318 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: it's crazy to me because I love my time. It's 319 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: since we loved the city. You know, I had Marvin 320 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: Lewis at the time, I loved him as a head coach. 321 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: I thought he did a fantastic job. You know, the 322 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Brown family, I thought they were awesome to work with. 323 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: So it was really it's really hard for me to 324 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: see that because I had good experiences there. We were successful, 325 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: we did get to the playoffs. The Bengals have been 326 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: a competitive team the last you know, decade since Andy 327 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: Dolan has gotten drafted, you know, and even before that 328 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: some of the Carson Palmer years. So it's hard to 329 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: stay consistently good year in year out in the NFL, 330 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: and that's one of the toughest things. But also people 331 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: get kind of you know, they get kind of complacent, satisfied, 332 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: and they want more. Right, So when Andy's taking the 333 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: Bengals of this to the playoffs, you know, a lot 334 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: of the years like we want one than that. We 335 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: want a playoff win, we want a super Bowl. You know, 336 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: if Andy doesn't get hurt and what two fifteen, you know, 337 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: who knows what the Bengals do that year. So you know, 338 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: it's really tough to look at and see. But look, 339 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: if you build the right pieces and if in number 340 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: one to starts to that quarterback position and the head coach. 341 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: If you have those two pieces and you continue to 342 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: trying to build around them, I don't care where you're at. 343 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: You can win with the right with the right players 344 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: in the right coach. I think since he has that, 345 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: especially now, and if they go to Joe Burrow route 346 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: a young quarterback, and then if they keep the Andy 347 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: to help guide him along, you know they need a 348 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: lot more pieces. But shoot, I mean, I just always 349 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: enjoyed my time, So I kind of get unsure why 350 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: that's always said like that. Thanks to Bruce Gradkowski, who 351 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: is the answer to the following trivia question, who is 352 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback for AJ Green's first touchdown catch in the NFL? 353 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: It was Gradkowski. After Andy Dalton injured his wrist in 354 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: his NFL debut, Gradkowski came off the bench and threw 355 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: a forty one yard game winning touchdown past two AJ 356 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: Green with four twenty eight to go as the Bengals 357 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: beat the Browns in Cleveland. Now time to do a 358 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: little Joe Burrow experiment, and depending on how this turns out, 359 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: it could impact your feelings on whether the Bengal should 360 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: take him number one overall or trade down or possibly 361 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: even select Chase Young. Here's the idea. Every team in 362 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: history that has taken a quarterback with the number one 363 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft figured they had their guy, 364 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: the franchise QB that was going to be there for 365 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: a decade, win playoff games, go to Super Bowls, and 366 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: be the foundation to build around. But how often does 367 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: it work? In other words, for every Peyton Manning, how 368 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: often is there a JaMarcus Russell. I'm going to go 369 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: back to the start of the Super Bowl era, the 370 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six season and take a look at every 371 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: quarterback that was selected number one overall in the draft. 372 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: Then I'm going to give him a grade, and you 373 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: can do the same thing as you listen. We'll probably 374 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: disagree on a few. The grade will be one of 375 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: four categories. The quarterback turned out to be great, good, bad, 376 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: or brutal. Then we'll tally up the results and see 377 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: what the math tells us about the lifelihood that Joe 378 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: Burrow will be the savior we're hoping he can be. 379 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: Beginning in the Super Bowl era. The first quarterback selected 380 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: number one overall in the draft came in nineteen seventy 381 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: when the Pittsburgh Steelers selected Terry Bradshaw. I like this 382 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: experiment already. He certainly gets a great four time Super 383 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: Bowl champ, NFL MVP in nineteen seventy eight, and Pro 384 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Famer, in other words, everything you're hoping 385 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: that pick can be. One year later, another quarterback was 386 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: selected number one overall, when the Patriots chose Jim Plunkett. 387 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: He didn't do much for New England, but ultimately I 388 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: think Plunkett has to receive a great grade. He led 389 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: the Raiders to a pair of Super Bowl titles, was 390 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl MVP, and lasted for sixteen years in 391 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. So so far, we're two for two. The 392 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: next quarterback taking number one overall was Steve Bartkowski, chosen 393 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: by the Falcons in nineteen seventy five. I don't think 394 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: we can give him a great grade. He was nine 395 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: games under five hundred as a starting quarterback, but I 396 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: think Bartkowski deserves a good He was the offensive rookie 397 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: of the year, a two time Pro Bowler, and the 398 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: Falcons retired his number ten. It took eight years before 399 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: another quarterback was selected first overall, and he turned out 400 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: to be one of the all time greats. John Elway 401 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: taken by the Colts before being traded to the Broncos, 402 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: two Super Bowl titles, NFL MVP, and a member of 403 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So so far, we've 404 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: had four picks and three turned out to be great. 405 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: Four years later, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers selected Vinny Testaverdy 406 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: number one overall. His one hundred twenty three losses as 407 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback is an NFL record, and his winning 408 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: percentage of forty two point three is the lowest of 409 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: any QB with at least seventy wins. But on the 410 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: other hand, he played for twenty one year and went 411 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: to a couple of Pro Bowls, so I can't give 412 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: him a brutal grade. I am going to go with 413 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: bad up next. The first overall pick in nineteen eighty nine, 414 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman put another one down in the grade category. 415 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: Three Super Bowl titles, six trips to the Pro Bowl, 416 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: and enshrinement in the Hall of Fame. We are now 417 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: four for six in the grade category, but not about 418 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: to be five for seven because the following year, the 419 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: Colts selected Jeff George number one overall. He bounced around 420 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: to seven different teams and lasted for thirteen years because 421 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: of his raw talent, so that keeps him out of 422 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: the brutal category. But he was forty six and seventy 423 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: eight as a starter and wore out his welcome on 424 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: several teams, So Jeff George goes down in the bad category. 425 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: Up next, the first overall pick in nineteen ninety three 426 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: Drew Bledsoe. He went to four Pro Bowls and guided 427 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots to one Super Bowl appearance, but they didn't 428 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: start winning Super Bowls until he got hurt, paving the 429 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: way for Tom Brady to take his job and keep 430 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: it for twenty years. So we'll put Bledsoe down in 431 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: the good category. The next quarterbacks selected first overall was 432 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning in nineteen ninety eight. No debate on his 433 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: Grade five MVP awards, two Super Bowl titles, most commercials 434 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: in history, another Hall of Famer. As soon as he 435 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: can go in, he's a great. So to this point, 436 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: we've looked at thirty three drafts and only nine quarterbacks 437 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: were taken with the first overall pick. Five turned out 438 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: to be great, But beginning with Peyton Manning, there's a 439 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: seismic shift, and over the last twenty two drafts, sixteen 440 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have been taken number one overall. In nineteen ninety nine, 441 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: Tim Couch went number one overall to the Browns due 442 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: to injuries. Will never know how good he could have been, 443 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: but he did leave Cleveland to a playoff appearance before 444 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: breaking his leg in the final game of the regular season. 445 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: In two thousand and two, I don't necessarily think he 446 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: was a bad player, but in terms of how it 447 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: worked out, I'm still going to give Couch a bad grade. 448 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: In two thousand and one, the first overall pick was 449 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: Michael Vick, another tough call because of the dog fighting 450 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: conviction that halted his career. He was a four time 451 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: Pro Bowler and the first quarterback ever to rush for 452 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: more than a thousand yards in a season. So I'm 453 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: going to go with a good grade for Michael Vick. 454 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: In two thousand and two, the first pick was David Carr, 455 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: and I think we've arrived on our first brutal grade. 456 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't all his fault. The expansion Texans were terrible 457 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: and car got sacked an NFL record seventy six times 458 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 1: as a rookie, but his record as a starter was 459 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: twenty three and fifty six and he threw more interceptions 460 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: than touchdowns, So I'm putting car down in the brutal category. 461 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: Two thousand and three Carson Palmer. I think he deserves 462 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: a good grade. Three Pro Bowls, three trips to the playoffs, 463 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: thirteenth all time, and touchdown passes, and he might have 464 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: been a great if not for the injuries. But Carson 465 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: definitely qualifies as good. The following year, Eli Manning went 466 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: first overall. Much like Jim Plunkett, if you lead your 467 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: team to a pair of Super Bowl titles, you qualify 468 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: as great for my purposes, and he becomes the sixth 469 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: QB to get a great grade. Two thousand and five 470 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: Alex Smith. It took a while since he had six 471 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators in his first six seasons, but I think 472 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: he's worthy of a good grade. Three Pro Bowl trips 473 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: late in his career, and he led the league in 474 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: passer rating in his final season in Kansas City. Yes, 475 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers would have been a better pick that year, 476 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: but Alex Smith did eventually turn out to be good. 477 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 1: Now we get to two thousand and seven and the 478 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: biggest bust of them all, JaMarcus Russell, an obvious brutal 479 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: grade seven and eighteen, is a starter and out of 480 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: the league before his twenty fifth birthday. Two years later, 481 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford went number one overall. Not great, definitely not brutal, 482 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: but a tough call for me between good or bad. 483 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: He's obviously put up huge numbers, but he's only been 484 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: to one Pro Bowl, and more importantly, the Lions have 485 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: finished with losing records in seven of his eleven seasons. 486 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: I will grudgingly give him a good grade for the 487 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: statistical achievements. Two ten Sam Bradford, my first instinct was brutal, 488 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: but I'm going to settle on bad. Injuries have been 489 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: a big factor and he's certainly been on lousy teams, 490 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: but his stats are fairly good in terms of bang 491 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: for the buck. He might be the worst player of 492 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: all time. He's made more than one hundred and thirty 493 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: million dollars in his career, but again I will give 494 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: him a bad grade. Now to two thousand eleven and 495 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: Cam Newton Rookie of the Year. M v P guided 496 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: his team to a Super Bowl, but injury prone and 497 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: currently out of work after only playing in two games 498 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: last season. I'll go with good for Cam Newton. Two 499 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve Andrew Luck. This might be a controversial grade, 500 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: but I'm going to give him great. He only played 501 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: six seasons and battled injuries the last three, but when healthy, 502 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: I think he was tracking to become one of the 503 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: best ever. And who knows. I don't think it's going 504 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: to happen, but maybe, just maybe he'll come out of retirement. 505 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: He's my seventh QB to get a great grade. Two 506 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen Jamis Winston. He's still only twenty six, 507 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: so this could change, but for now I'm going with bad. 508 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: He led the league in passing yards last year, but 509 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: also led in interceptions and total turnovers, and he's currently 510 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: out of work. He never got the Bucks to the 511 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: playoffs in five seasons, so for now I'll put him 512 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: in the bad category. Two thousand and sixteen Jared Goff. 513 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: For now, I'll give him a good grade. Two Pro 514 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: Bowls in four seasons and a trip to the Super Bowl. 515 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: You can question the one hundred thirty four million dollar 516 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 1: contract extension he got last year, but Goff has certainly 517 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: been good for the Rams. Finally, I think it's too 518 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: soon to grade the last two quarterbacks selected Number one overall. 519 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray both one Rookie of the 520 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: Year awards, but Baker was awful in year two. Their 521 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: stories are still to be written. All right. Time to 522 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: tally up the results, throwing out Mayfield and Murray, I 523 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: graded twenty two quarterbacks selected number one overall in the 524 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Era. Seven received great grades, Bradshaw, Plunkett, Elway, Acheman, 525 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: the Manning Brothers, and perhaps controversially, Andrew Luck. Eight received 526 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: good grades. Barkowski, Bledsoe, Vic Palmer, Smith, Stafford, Newton, and Goff. 527 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: Five got bad grades, test of Erdie, George Couch, Bradford, 528 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: and Winston, and two got brutal grades. Car and Russell. So, 529 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: by my highly unscientific method, in the Super Bowl Era, 530 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: if you select a quarterback number one overall, there's a 531 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: thirty two percent chance he'll be great and a thirty 532 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: six percent chance that he'll be good. Combine the two, 533 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: and that's a sixty eight percent chance he'll be either 534 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: good or great. There's a twenty three percent chance that 535 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: he'll be bad, and a nine percent chance that he'll 536 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 1: be brutal. So when I look at those odds, I 537 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: am perfectly comfortable with the Bengal selecting Joe Burrow number 538 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: one overall, and we'll see if that's how it plays 539 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: out on Thursday. That's going to do it for this 540 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you by 541 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: Prime Sport, the official fan, travel and hospitality partner of 542 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. 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