00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I've gotta made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presence and I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:49 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gift temperature winegar. How are you doing? I hope you're doing okay. If you're not, keep that to yourself. What's going on? I mean, I'm starting this way. I did nothing over the weekend. I'm sure some of my software updated. What else is going on? The dishwasher in the office kitchen is broken. It's out of order, so that's a disaster for me. My dishwasher a home is working perfectly, and hopefully we'll continue for years. This is I'm on my second dishwasher. The other one was making all my dishes stinky, so this one doesn't do that. I don't know what's wrong with the office dishwasher, and thank god I don't have to clean any dishes here because my day would be ruined. Is there anything else going on? No? I already mentioned there's a good chance some of my software updated. Now I cut myself shaving. People don't realize I have to shave every morning and starting to think, can I get my face lasered? I can't grow a beard yet I have to shave. Enough is enough? I have to remind you we have the Patreon and I'm going to try to make it seem more appealing than I usually do, because I feel like I usually just act like some died patreon dot com slash. I said no gifts, have the time of your life over there bonus episodes of this show from my backyard recaps of the Housewives, of the Mormon Wives of all kinds of things. Was that a better pitch? I don't know. Let's get into the show. I love today's guest. Everybody loves sir. It's Alison Tolman. Hi, Allison, welcome to I said no gift. 00:02:24 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I'm happy to be here. 00:02:25 Speaker 2: I'm all hyped up. I don't know why. 00:02:27 Speaker 3: Because of the dishwasher situation. 00:02:30 Speaker 2: Does that start in a state of rage? 00:02:32 Speaker 3: I absolutely, especially because you have this past trauma with the stinky dishes. 00:02:37 Speaker 2: Have you ever had a dishwasher fail on you? 00:02:39 Speaker 3: I my dishwasher in my old apartment, my ex and I used to call it just like the hot box where we kept dishes sometimes because it didn't. I don't think it did anything really right. 00:02:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like when you buy a dishwasher, it should probably last for at least the span of a marriage or something. Yeah, that's appropriate. This was like two years, which feels very to be fair. 00:03:01 Speaker 3: I don't think I mean the one in the old apartment. I was the first person living in that apartment. I think it was just a bad dish I think it was never good. 00:03:08 Speaker 2: Oh it did hard fail. 00:03:10 Speaker 3: I started with a bad one. But now I have moved and I have a good dishwasher, and it has changed. I didn't even know what good dishwashers were, like, I really didn't know, right, So it's pretty exciting. 00:03:21 Speaker 2: This dishwasher, the one that broke, was a great dishwasher until it broke. And now this one. I you know, I read all the reviews. It's a disaster. But now I'm stuck with it because it works. Not sure where do I go from here. I'm not going to. 00:03:33 Speaker 3: Just before the marriage end. 00:03:38 Speaker 2: Insane, truly, it's out of control. I guess I'll just wait for it to like flood and ruin my kitchen or something that's good. Then we'll move on from Yeah, good plan. How was your weekend? 00:03:49 Speaker 3: My weekend was good. It was what pretty lazy. I went and saw a movie last night. I went and saw Send Help. 00:03:55 Speaker 2: Oh, Send Help, of course, which was fun. 00:03:58 Speaker 3: Just Sam Raimi, bloody, lots of fluids escaping from the body. 00:04:03 Speaker 2: I saw that at some point. Yeah, I had a lot of fluids, a lot of blood on people. But I wasn't expecting so much of it to just kind of be fun on the beach. Yeah, there's a lot of fun on truly right. 00:04:17 Speaker 3: On the beach. 00:04:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I feel like all of the trailers and stuff. I thought that it would just be her hunting down her coworkers and blood everywhere, that's part of the movie. But then I was like, oh they are they're in paradise, yeah, eating. 00:04:30 Speaker 3: And it's beautiful, you know it. Listen, it's hard to get a movie made these days. You have to incentivize that's part of You've. 00:04:36 Speaker 2: Got to make it kind of pleasant. And then there's the big bore. I this is something with me. I think forest animals, and now this has become I'm talking too much about this. Forest animals created from CGI. Yeah, we kind of get some more puppets going. 00:04:52 Speaker 3: Miss you missed practical effects. 00:04:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, even if it was kind of just like a really terrible looking bore, but it was like someone had made it out of paper machine or something. 00:05:01 Speaker 3: I will say knowing because it was so so CGI, I minded less when it was like stabbed in the eyeball with a stick. 00:05:09 Speaker 2: That's true. I was thinking through that. I was like, this is going to feel bad when the animal gets Yeah. 00:05:15 Speaker 3: I was like, that's a drawing. He's fine. 00:05:18 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like most if it's an animal that exists in reality, nobody wants to see again. Yeah, no, you have to make it has to be a literal monster for people to be And they. 00:05:27 Speaker 3: Did make him. That boar pretty monstrous, right, it was almost like it was like it's they It's eyebrows were it was angry, like an evil person. He was like rabbit. Maybe I don't know. 00:05:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, but boars are kind of vicious. 00:05:41 Speaker 3: They can be. We have and I'm from Texas and we have right Havelina's in Texas that are like they're they can be really dangerous and big. 00:05:48 Speaker 2: Have you seen one in reality? 00:05:50 Speaker 3: I've seen little Havelina's like little katie pies, but not like if you live out in like West Texas, like out in the country, you have to be careful while you're walking, like you have to what are they doing? 00:06:00 Speaker 2: They're like charging people or they bite it. 00:06:02 Speaker 3: They will charge and they'll they'll like gore you. I know, they'll kill you. They're really and they're like huge, you know, pigs get so massive. 00:06:12 Speaker 2: And to what end? Because then they don't eat you, right, they just want you did just jerrymandering. 00:06:16 Speaker 3: I think they're just trying to in Texas, that's the main thing. 00:06:21 Speaker 2: They're trying to fix the vote. Exactly where did you see the babies? 00:06:27 Speaker 3: The babies I actually saw most recently in Sedona in Arizona. You can see them in the desert at sunset, just kind of trotting along. 00:06:35 Speaker 2: Oh that's very sweet. It's very cute. And then they kind of just reality. 00:06:40 Speaker 3: They watched the news and they're like, look, they get they're radicalized online. 00:06:48 Speaker 2: Their algorithm eventually gets to exactly exactly what other sort of wildlife were you're dealing with in Texas. 00:06:55 Speaker 3: We have well, there's gators. We have gators, and realize that gators my parents emiliator that lives in the lake behind their house. 00:07:04 Speaker 2: How long has it been there forever? 00:07:06 Speaker 3: Twenty years? A long time. It's like a six fine. But you know they have a bulkhead on around the lake so it can't crawl out and eat. 00:07:12 Speaker 2: The Oh interesting, it's trapped in there. 00:07:14 Speaker 3: It lives. It's that's where it lives. Yeah, he's in there. 00:07:17 Speaker 2: So does it have a name. 00:07:19 Speaker 3: I'm sure that it does, but I don't know what it is. 00:07:21 Speaker 2: How is somebody not I've never asked be a famous local gates? It should be. 00:07:24 Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of gaters in Houston, but that's just the one that I have been. Wow, the most exist. 00:07:29 Speaker 2: Not associate gaters with Houston. 00:07:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty swampy in Houston. 00:07:35 Speaker 2: I guess it is humid there another thing that you don't expect. 00:07:38 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so we've got gators, We've got My mom actually, for a while was licensed by the state of Texas to raise orphaned raccoons, squirrels, possums, and bats. Wow, we have all of those, and I've had all of those in my childhood home. 00:07:55 Speaker 2: And you interacted with them. 00:07:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, because she like she used to like rehabilitate the little babies. 00:08:00 Speaker 2: And they're all pretty sweet, right, I mean. 00:08:03 Speaker 3: They're wild, they're pretty sweet to her because they're like, that's my. 00:08:06 Speaker 2: Mom, now depend on this one. 00:08:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, but even like kittens and puppies are pretty wild. They fight and they climb up you with their little claws and stuff like that. 00:08:16 Speaker 2: Right, but when it's or whatever. 00:08:18 Speaker 3: So she only did one bat I think I don't know that that panned out, but she did so many raccoons, like so, I mean there was years where there were like raccoons at my brother's wedding because they had to be bottle fed in between the ceremony and the and the you know, so that's so yeah, she's a kookie. 00:08:36 Speaker 2: Text How did she get licensed for that? 00:08:39 Speaker 3: They just I think they just need volunteers. At the Texas Wildlife Association, they were like, you seem a little nuts. Your children have recently left for college. 00:08:48 Speaker 2: Are you bored? And she was like, I am. Every empty nester should start raising wildlife. Become a mishanded. 00:08:54 Speaker 3: She stuck with it. Now she does kittens and puppies, she doesn't do wildlife. 00:08:58 Speaker 2: Was there did a line get cross? And She's like, I can't do this anymore? 00:09:01 Speaker 3: I don't know they were too radicalized. I don't know what happened. I mean it was a lot of work and you have to keep your I guess you know, when you're raising a raccoon, the end goal is like because you like she feeds them with a bottle, and then she would like teach them how to like and stuff like that, like to get you cut grapes in half and throw them in a dog bowl and they learn how to like out of the water. Like she truly like rehab these raccoons. It's so nuts. And then she would like, you know, cage them up and drive them off and like open the cage and be like go be free, like white fang them. And she probably saw one too many like dead raccoon on the road and she's. 00:09:42 Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck am I what is this I contributing to? 00:09:45 Speaker 3: Exactly? So then she knows she does kittens and puppies and actually they get adopted by a human, not released back into the whole while. 00:09:52 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry to keep asking you to just speak for your mother. 00:09:54 Speaker 3: Here, but I'm happy to she should be on the BIX. 00:09:56 Speaker 2: I know Allison's mom reach out. How long would you keep a raccoon. Is it like six months or is it years? 00:10:04 Speaker 3: No, it's it's it's months. 00:10:05 Speaker 2: It's yeah. 00:10:07 Speaker 3: You just have to get them like big enough to where they can survive on their own, until. 00:10:11 Speaker 2: They become a danger in your own home, and then you're like, I have to get rid of them. 00:10:14 Speaker 3: Yes, they would be they were in the home, and then we had a pan out back and they'd be out back for when they got older and bigger. 00:10:20 Speaker 2: Oh, this is Do you have photos of yourself with them or anything? Yes, I'm so jealous. 00:10:24 Speaker 3: When they're little bitty, you can I could help bottle feed them. 00:10:27 Speaker 2: Did you name those the raccoons? 00:10:30 Speaker 3: I think my mom named a couple and then stopped, like, this is I can't do. 00:10:34 Speaker 2: Probably get too connected to them or something. 00:10:37 Speaker 3: I think so. I think it was hard for her to like then release them. 00:10:41 Speaker 2: Right, And you said raccoons, possums and bats. Was there another squirrels? Squirrels? 00:10:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, my god. 00:10:46 Speaker 2: Did you have them all at the same time or was it like one species at a time? 00:10:50 Speaker 3: She mainly did raccoons. I only remember a couple squirrels, and she had possums for a while, But I think we just had more raccoons in our area than anywhere else. 00:10:58 Speaker 2: Awesome babies have finally kind of warmed me up to the concept of apostle. 00:11:02 Speaker 3: They're so cute. 00:11:03 Speaker 2: They're adorable, They're so hideous. 00:11:06 Speaker 3: They really are. 00:11:07 Speaker 2: They become like they cross over and become cute. Yeah, they're very sweet little creature. 00:11:14 Speaker 3: I know this is not a visual medium. I was making a podcasts, I know, but if you're listening, I was making a possum face an incredible follow it on Instagram too, you see it. 00:11:24 Speaker 2: Thank you Elison put in the work I did. 00:11:28 Speaker 3: I'm very talented actress and I do impressions of animals. 00:11:32 Speaker 2: Are you? Are you an animal owner yourself? 00:11:35 Speaker 3: I have a cat, Oh, very spoiled beloved cat. 00:11:38 Speaker 2: What's his name is bud Oh? How old is he? 00:11:41 Speaker 3: He's like eleven or twelve. He was a rescue and so we're not totally sure. He is a prince. He has no teeth and he has one only one nostril. The other is closed up. 00:11:53 Speaker 2: How did that happen? 00:11:54 Speaker 3: He had this cryptococcal infection that sometimes stray cats getty crypto crypto. I don't know, it's a fungal infection. Yeah, that stray cats and raccoons can and it like messes with their sinuses, and so he has all this scar tissue that's basically closed up one side of his sinuses. 00:12:16 Speaker 2: So and has he always had no teeth hat. 00:12:19 Speaker 3: Tith when I got him, but they were so rotten that I eventually took him in for a cleaning and they were like, these need to pull. They were like, we should pull all of these. Actually, they were like, we're gonna see if we can save these two. And then they called me twenty minutes later and they're like, we can't save it. 00:12:35 Speaker 2: Twenty pull them all. 00:12:37 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, but he's so much happier with no teeth. 00:12:40 Speaker 2: How does a cat with no teeth eat? 00:12:42 Speaker 3: You know, because cat food is so small, it's not really a problem. He still eat kibble. He just kind of there's no crunch. He just kind of follows it. 00:12:51 Speaker 2: You know. Wow, I had no idea that was even possible. 00:12:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's pretty happy. 00:12:56 Speaker 2: And you've had how long have you had him? 00:12:58 Speaker 3: I've had him for like seven years now. Yeah. 00:13:01 Speaker 2: Was there a real rehabilitation when he came into your house or was it he. 00:13:06 Speaker 3: Was on anti fungal meds for like a year and a half to get rid of this crypto infection that he had and get him all the way better. And he was a foster fail, like my ex and I were fostering him. 00:13:17 Speaker 2: Oh, a foster fail makes me think, oh he was a problem at another. 00:13:22 Speaker 3: We failed where the I'm the foster. I'm sorry, I'm going to be clear. I was a foster fail. 00:13:27 Speaker 2: He is a he's a foster success. I did it. It's an Italian grace exactly. Yeah, you don't even know his agent. He is an Italians. He could be fifty years old for. 00:13:39 Speaker 3: No idea, but I know he rules my household. 00:13:43 Speaker 2: Is this your first cat? 00:13:44 Speaker 1: No? 00:13:45 Speaker 3: I grew up with cats and dogs, and then I had my own cat as soon as I got my first apartment and as soon as I could have a cat, I was like, I should have a cat. So I had my cat Annie for eighteen years, and then when she passed, I got started fostering Bud, like four or five months later. It's too long to be with a pet and then suddenly not have a pet. I was like, this is fucking weird. 00:14:08 Speaker 2: It's weird, right, your house is so quiet. 00:14:09 Speaker 3: It's still quiet, and pets. 00:14:12 Speaker 2: We had a dog for ten years and then she passed and it was like, I mean, it's so it's such a nightmare. 00:14:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so awful. 00:14:21 Speaker 2: But now we have a new puppy. We've had her since last July, and I should clarify her she's a rescue because occasionally a listener pops up it's like I can't believe, and you're like, you're like, got is different. 00:14:35 Speaker 3: I mean got can mean from a shelters. 00:14:38 Speaker 2: But she's now almost a year old. Yeah, and she's seventy five pounds. 00:14:42 Speaker 3: She in that raptor stage where she's got those super sharp teeth. 00:14:45 Speaker 2: Oh she's she's like, the teeth aren't sharp anymore and the attacks have slowed down. But it's almost more surprising now watching the news. 00:14:53 Speaker 3: She's like, oh it all mean, don't let her watch the news. 00:14:57 Speaker 2: It's bad. But she is becoming more a dog now, so she'll like lie at your feet and very sweet creature. But puppies are menaces. They are monster creatures. 00:15:08 Speaker 3: They're insane. Yeah, they're really they're like, I'm a friend of mine just got a puppy and he was like, he's a one man wrecking crew. 00:15:13 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're demoniced can't. 00:15:14 Speaker 3: He's like he was supposed to come to the movie Yester, and he was like, I can't come. I can't leave the dog for more than twenty minutes. 00:15:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't leave them alone, certainly, Yeah, unless they're in a crate and. 00:15:23 Speaker 3: Then they're so screaming and pooping and yeah. 00:15:27 Speaker 2: So I think in the next few months she'll become just an animal that doesn't feel like a danger to me. She only really attacks me, and my boyfriend says it's because I dressed like a toy from pet Co and so, which is fair, especially like when I'm in pajamas or whatever, it just feels like very dog toy oriented. Yeah, and so I don't I can't blame her. Yeah, and I'm much essentially her size. It's the whole thing. I'm like, I'm asking to be a dog bite victim or something. 00:15:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been funny how like pets have different roles for you, you and like your partner. It's crazy, so strange. 00:16:03 Speaker 2: We're totally different things from Yeah, she listens to him and just puts me in dangers. You're a peer. I don't even know if I say a peer. I'm beneath her no, I'm like local wildlife that she could tear apart or something. It's really sad. I don't know how I gain her respect. I think I'm too nice. 00:16:23 Speaker 3: That they do like need a strong hand. 00:16:25 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it's to be a strong hand, I know, I know. I just want to be in love with her, yeah, and just say sweet things. Yeah, but I guess occasionally I need to be like I could send you away, have some threat. 00:16:40 Speaker 3: You know I am some somewhat in charge, right, you should fear me a little bit. 00:16:44 Speaker 2: Does your cat have different roles for you and your partner? 00:16:47 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:16:48 Speaker 2: What are they? 00:16:49 Speaker 3: I mean it's just like he wants to sleep on his pillow differently, do you know what I mean? It's like he's never sat on my lap that way ever. Oh, this is sad. He like guards us differently, right, but he loves us both. It's very strange. 00:17:04 Speaker 2: Is he a social cat or is the one that runs so social? Okay, that's nice. 00:17:08 Speaker 3: Loves people, wants to be around people. 00:17:11 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, when you go away, do you have somebody to stay with him? Or do you send him away? 00:17:14 Speaker 3: I have someone stay with him. 00:17:15 Speaker 2: I think with a cat you kind of have to do that. 00:17:17 Speaker 3: I mean when I grew up, if we were gone for three days, we would just leave extra food out for my cat, right, And that's what I thought was like normal. But Bud is so spoiled that someone just comes in house, sits and just is with him all the time, like he just does. 00:17:32 Speaker 2: He has his own but nice. 00:17:35 Speaker 3: It makes me feel so much better, you know, to have somebody there and whatever. 00:17:39 Speaker 2: I feel like we've come such a long way with the way we treat animals since I was a child. Where Like when you had an animal as a kid, like through the nineties or whatever, it was like, well, that's an animal, and just give it what it needs to survive essentially. And now it's like, you know, putting it in all right, sending out with friends. 00:17:59 Speaker 3: People are having lesonless people having kids or having kids later, so our animals are even more important to us. 00:18:04 Speaker 2: I simply have no plans for a child, so me neither pouring all of my resources into. 00:18:08 Speaker 3: This lucky lucky cat, lucky dog. 00:18:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel like you have the bandwidth for another pet or you're going to just keep the cat. 00:18:16 Speaker 3: I think that Bud is now like an established gentleman of the household, and would be like, what is this if there was another pet, and so he'll be he'll be an only child while he's. 00:18:27 Speaker 2: Well, he's on this, I think taking out his territory. 00:18:30 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:18:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that I have the space now, and I think I have the capacity for a couple of pets at once. So maybe in my next iteration, many many, many, many, many many many. 00:18:43 Speaker 2: Years from now, you'll get into possum's bats, right, exactly when Bud goes to college. I have a lot of raccoons in my backyard. It's terrible. They find water wherever it is. Also, of squirrels were ripping up my plants. Were they desperate for water? 00:19:04 Speaker 3: Oh god, that's sad. 00:19:05 Speaker 2: Oh, it was really a nightmare. It was a nightmare situation. Yeah, for all of us, I guess because these things also find a leaky hose or something before you go to the roots of a plant. 00:19:16 Speaker 3: I know that doesn't seem efficient. 00:19:17 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, are your raccoon's trouble for you? 00:19:20 Speaker 3: No, they haven't been Okay, Yeah again, this is like a new house of only they're a year yet, right, give them some time. We'll see if we'll see you next month. 00:19:29 Speaker 2: I'm like reader, You're right, just come in here covered and scratches, and they're a problem for me. Now do something about it. Oh well, I mean, speaking of doing something about something, I feel like I should do something, Alison. I was looking forward to having you here on the podcast. I thought, Alison will come by, we'll have a nice chat, we'll move on with our days, like any. 00:19:57 Speaker 3: Podcast, normal podcasts. 00:19:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, podcast asked here is called? I said, no gifts, and I assume at some point somebody mentioned the title to you. So I was a little surprised when you peeled into the parking lot, slammed on your brakes, and stepped out holding what's obviously a gift for me? Is it a gift for me? Okay? 00:20:19 Speaker 3: Interesting, I'm a bit of a rebel, ask anyone. So I saw the title, I'm familiar with the show, and I said, fuck it, so well, should we open it here on the podcast? 00:20:35 Speaker 2: Do it? It's in a gorgeous bag. 00:20:40 Speaker 1: Thank you. 00:20:40 Speaker 2: It's stunning pink bag with the is this a leopard or at cheetah? 00:20:44 Speaker 3: I think they're jaguars or something. The third option that Alison. 00:20:48 Speaker 2: They don't know, Wait, what is a jaguar? Actually are jaguars a leopard is wait, oh, no, panther is black? Do all of these things have spots. 00:20:59 Speaker 3: They all have spots, but some of them are black, and their spots are so faint because they're like black on they're like undercoats or something. 00:21:06 Speaker 4: Right, Like jaguars have like spots with spots inside them, if that makes sense. So it's like leopards are a little more faded spots, and jaguars have very detailed spots. 00:21:15 Speaker 2: All right, leopards kind of like a jaguar put through the wash. 00:21:18 Speaker 3: And this is not a cheat. 00:21:19 Speaker 2: It doesn't look fast, extremely slow. This is a jaguar and it's all over this bag. Okay, let's reach in. Oh look at the amount of tissue. 00:21:28 Speaker 3: You know what that's I think that's almost all my tissue papers. I wanted. I wanted it to look good, so disrespectful. 00:21:39 Speaker 2: Okay, issue, This is like a thick steak. Okay, reaching in, there's more. They haven't abused the tissue in a while, okay, okay. Oh, this is a really beautiful book, isn't it pretty. It's called We Found a Hat by John Class. Yeah, and there are two little tortoises on the front. And they found a hat. 00:22:03 Speaker 3: They found a ten gallon hat. It's also there's a sticker on there that says signed by the author, So you're welcome, signed copy. 00:22:09 Speaker 2: Let's see this pass, Let's see here. It's just subtle. 00:22:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a scribble audiograph autograph too, so I'm I'm familiar with the game. 00:22:19 Speaker 2: People need to get to just a you know, straight writing their name out. 00:22:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my name, preferably confist, hold it in your just maybe a crayon, fat kind. 00:22:34 Speaker 2: Who's the celebrity that's going to pick up that trend? It's time? This is beautiful. It's from Skylight Books, the local book store. Tell me why you brought this? So? 00:22:44 Speaker 3: I am a big fan of having children's books around that are like funny and touching and like interesting. So I have a copy of this. It's actually a trilogy. 00:22:56 Speaker 2: In the trilogy, oh, this is the end, they're looking for a hat. 00:22:59 Speaker 3: The first one is, this is not my hat? Oh, And then the second one is. 00:23:05 Speaker 2: What is it called? 00:23:06 Speaker 3: I lost my hat? Where's my hat? I can't find my hat? I don't remember, And then this one is we found a hat. So they're all about hats. 00:23:13 Speaker 2: Is the first one like a red mega hat. 00:23:15 Speaker 3: It is a red habit. 00:23:16 Speaker 2: It's not about interesting. It's a little is it. 00:23:20 Speaker 3: Maybe it's like a little bowler hat. 00:23:21 Speaker 2: Oh cute? 00:23:22 Speaker 3: But you know, listen, they operate independently. You don't have to have Red runs to the other. And this was my This is my favorite because it's really about friendship. 00:23:31 Speaker 2: The first two about strictly hats. 00:23:33 Speaker 3: The first one is about fevery. He stole a hat. This fish stole a hat. Okay, a fish stole a hat from a bigger fish, which was foolish. And he's running away with the hat, swimming away with it right. 00:23:45 Speaker 2: Right, and does he get what's coming to it? 00:23:48 Speaker 3: I think he gets eight. I think he gets eaten. 00:23:52 Speaker 2: It's like a capital punishment and it's. 00:23:54 Speaker 3: The animal Kingdom. Nobody's eaten or dies in this one. So that's why it's my favorite. 00:24:00 Speaker 2: So there are different animals every time. In the Hands, yeah. 00:24:02 Speaker 3: The second one is a bear who's. 00:24:04 Speaker 2: Looking for his hat. Okay, and what sort of hat does he end up with? 00:24:07 Speaker 3: He has like a little like a took with like a pom pom on the top. 00:24:11 Speaker 2: I think took, Yeah, I don't know, a little beanie yeah, t o ok. 00:24:17 Speaker 3: T oh, how do you spelled took t o q u E. 00:24:21 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:24:21 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, this is a new piece of vocabulary for the get up took hat. Yeah yeah, let me look this up really quick. Took hat t o t o q u E. I did it, Yes, I just did it. And it seems to be like, uh, it describes all kinds of hats, really a kind of a beanie. But then the Wikipedia thing is, well, I guess that's a beanie, but why is it on this painting. It's like a Renaissance painting. 00:24:51 Speaker 3: It's like a beanie, but there's obviously some shaping inside of. 00:24:54 Speaker 2: That, a little bit of shape. 00:24:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got structure to it. 00:24:57 Speaker 2: It does look like you could have bought it at a lid, because if. 00:24:59 Speaker 3: You have a like looser things on bottom, you need structure up top right balance. That's your outfit. So he knows what he's doing. 00:25:07 Speaker 2: A took. That's so interesting. It's wow, the amount of words we have for hats. 00:25:11 Speaker 3: Too many, too many. 00:25:14 Speaker 2: So the bear finds a cook. 00:25:16 Speaker 3: And he's lost his took, and he's going looking. 00:25:18 Speaker 2: Does he ever find it? 00:25:19 Speaker 3: He does find it. A rabbit took it. He eats the rabbit. 00:25:23 Speaker 2: He eats a rabbit. Those are crazy brutal books. He's a quartermack McCarthy. But they're so beautiful. 00:25:28 Speaker 3: They are kind of they aren't. They're like stark and beautiful. 00:25:32 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 00:25:33 Speaker 3: But in this book they find this hat but there's only one hat. 00:25:38 Speaker 2: Oh, no someone die, No one dies. 00:25:41 Speaker 3: They're both like, they're like, how does it look on his two tortose friends. It's like, how does it look on me? And he's like, it looks really good. And he's like, how's it look on me? And he's like, it looks really good. And they're like, but no one can have the hat cause there's only one hat. So they leave, but one of them is like, I'm gonna go back for that Hell who thinks about going? But he's dreaming about like the hat. But then in the end and he realizes that he doesn't want to lose his friend. It's more important to have his friend than have the hat. And he goes back to sleep and he dreams that they both have hats. 00:26:08 Speaker 2: Oh that's really sweet. I feel like the author must have gotten some feedback on the first two he might have. 00:26:15 Speaker 3: These books are they're so beautifully drawn and they're I mean, I know, they're just gorgeous, and I do. I have all three of them at home on my coffee table. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: I love them. Some of the other illustrations and oh my god, it really is so pretty. 00:26:26 Speaker 3: I know. 00:26:27 Speaker 2: So how are you finding these? Do you just go brows? 00:26:30 Speaker 3: I found these? I was in Portland on a trip with my partner and we were in a bookstore and there was like a display of like these John Glassen books and I was like, oh, he must be like the local the local guy. 00:26:46 Speaker 2: He's not. 00:26:46 Speaker 3: He's from Canada. They just really liked him, I guess in Portland, so they I read. I read them in order. I'm a big reader and I'm pretty fast, so you know, it didn't four hundred books did take me long to read three children's books. And I just bought all of them. I just thought they were so sweet and honey, oh this is really lovely. Yeah, so there you go. You're welcome. Are you glad I brought you? 00:27:13 Speaker 2: I am glad. This is really sweet. I have nieces and nephews and I'm always like I feel like and also friends having babies or whatever, and I'll be like, I'm going to get them of the best children's books, But then I feel like they're probably the most obvious choices, and they probably have multiple copies. 00:27:29 Speaker 3: It's hard. 00:27:29 Speaker 2: It's really as someone who's not involved in the world of children at all, I'm like, well, I don't really know what the trends are, no. 00:27:37 Speaker 3: And you don't know what the new thing is, and you've got to assume they already have Where the Wild Things Are and good Night Moon and all that stuff like that. The classics. 00:27:44 Speaker 2: Do you know the Kissing Hand? Do you know this one? This is a heartbreaking one. I think that's what it's called, the Kissing Hand. But yeah, yes, it's about a raccoon and it's mom, I mean the whole I mean, it's just heartbreaking. It'll share my mom in it, your mother in character. She plays the role of the kissing hands. 00:28:05 Speaker 3: Oh I don't know that. 00:28:06 Speaker 2: Okay, that's good to know. That's a great one to give to new parents. Yeah, and it has raccoons and it's a you know, I feel like it whenever I look at newer children's books that are trying to be funny or whatever, and I find that very annoying. Yeah, I'm sure kids love them, but children have bad taste. 00:28:22 Speaker 3: I just think there's I can't I don't know. There's some Bookiddlren's books that I'm like not into and somebody. 00:28:26 Speaker 2: I just am. 00:28:27 Speaker 3: I can't say why. 00:28:28 Speaker 2: Right, It's weird when like a children's book, like as an adult, you feel like you would have no feeling on any of them. 00:28:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it kind of spoke to me. 00:28:36 Speaker 2: This one very timeless. 00:28:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do love it, and I'm sorry there's a little rip. 00:28:40 Speaker 2: On the cover, but oh, throw it away. 00:28:42 Speaker 3: You know it's been it's been loved. Can't sell hands at Skotline Books. 00:28:46 Speaker 1: I guess. 00:28:47 Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite children's book? 00:28:49 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:28:50 Speaker 3: Man, that's hard to say. I did love Where the Wild Things Are when I was a kid. I have like fun memories of going on a bear hunt, like with reading that to my sister when she was like. 00:29:04 Speaker 2: Why have I heard of that? 00:29:05 Speaker 3: Going on a bear hunt? Can't go over it, can't go under it. Oh, going on bear hunt's fun? They don't, they don't. No one dies in them. 00:29:13 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, it's more about it's. 00:29:15 Speaker 3: Just like the kids are. I don't know, I don't know why they said, you know what, you're right? 00:29:22 Speaker 2: Oh my child? 00:29:24 Speaker 1: Oh no. 00:29:27 Speaker 2: Oh, have you ever considered writing a kid's book? 00:29:29 Speaker 3: I haven't. 00:29:30 Speaker 2: I feel like that's something that is within almost anyone's right, anybody. 00:29:35 Speaker 1: I know. 00:29:35 Speaker 3: I was helping a friend of mine, like visualize what to do with her closet reorganization, and I was like, what are those and she was like, oh, that's my children's book. 00:29:43 Speaker 2: What And I was like what. 00:29:44 Speaker 3: She's like, you don't know I wrote a children's book. And I was like no, and she's like, those are the rest of the copies left in the world. There's like fifty of them on her shelf. I was like, wow, you just wrote a children's book and got it published. 00:29:56 Speaker 2: It feels like the bar is simultaneously very low and very high, because it's like, you read ones like that was almost nothing and there are three lessons kids can learn, so but then it's like, how do you get published? 00:30:08 Speaker 3: How do you get published? 00:30:10 Speaker 2: Pick the obvious idea, then do some rhyming, and then like yeah, and. 00:30:13 Speaker 3: Then like do you become a famous children's book author? 00:30:16 Speaker 2: I wonder if it's harder now than it used to be. 00:30:19 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure everybody's trying to get into that gay Oh yeah, make that big money. 00:30:22 Speaker 2: It's either that or become a real estate agent. 00:30:24 Speaker 1: That's it. 00:30:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, the one who left acting is like going to get into children's books or. 00:30:29 Speaker 2: Real estate or become a therapist, which no one in the entertainment business should be allowed to then enter therapy. It happens too often. No, have you ever run into a therapist who's like a former actor? Not that I know, God bless. There are a lot of them around, and I'm sure they're all great, but there's that initial like, oh, how am I supposed to trust you? 00:30:50 Speaker 3: Like an actor that's like recognizable from a sitcom you watched as a child or something. 00:30:54 Speaker 2: Tom Cruise, what happened? 00:30:59 Speaker 3: Oh? 00:31:00 Speaker 2: I guess he's literally like the last person who would enter the mental health field, no, considering religion and everything. 00:31:07 Speaker 3: Scientology, Yeah right. 00:31:08 Speaker 2: I don't think you go from scientology to becoming a therapist, but I encourage the journey. 00:31:13 Speaker 3: Times are crazy. We don't know. 00:31:15 Speaker 2: Have you ever been to that museum? 00:31:17 Speaker 3: Does the scientology museum? 00:31:19 Speaker 2: The Museum of Death? 00:31:21 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:31:22 Speaker 2: No, what is it called called? 00:31:25 Speaker 3: Like it's like pharmaceutical, like. 00:31:28 Speaker 2: Psychiatry the Museum of Death or something? 00:31:31 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, over in Hollywood, the actual Museum of Death over in Hollywood. 00:31:36 Speaker 2: Right, they're two different things. 00:31:38 Speaker 3: Yes, the Museum of Death I've been to. I've not been to the Scientology Museum of that. 00:31:42 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Museum of Death is more about like death itself. 00:31:45 Speaker 3: Yes, it's like a macabre museum. 00:31:48 Speaker 2: Right, And I feel like I'm putting myself on a list here. The Scientology Museum is like why psychiatry kills you and why psychiatry caused nine to eleven. 00:31:58 Speaker 3: I've been medicated for a lot of years, so I don't know that I need. 00:32:00 Speaker 2: To go there. I've been through it and it's a fascinating experience. 00:32:04 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I'm good. 00:32:06 Speaker 2: If you want to go into a museum where you will be the only person. 00:32:10 Speaker 3: I have the museum for you, feel like I used to let. My old place was right by the Scientology building, the Celebrity Center, and I was always like, I feel like I'm on I feel like I'm being watched. If I like cause too long, or to read the sign, or I pick up a pamphlet, I'm like, they're watching me. 00:32:25 Speaker 2: They're I guarantee they're watching. 00:32:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good. 00:32:28 Speaker 2: I love going around there though, and seeing different scientologists, like maintaining the building. Like I remember seeing a woman who's probably in her mid sixties at the top of a very high ladder holding a bucket barely like, no, get her down, from her down? Why is she doing manual washing the windows? 00:32:45 Speaker 3: She's working her way up the ladder engines. 00:32:49 Speaker 2: And a lot of smoking, really shocking amount of smoking. Huh. I guess that's like kind of the thing. 00:32:55 Speaker 3: That's how wonderful for them that they don't have to tell me about smoking like the rest of us. 00:33:04 Speaker 2: I feel like I've seen a lot of smokers over there. I used to go to that place, Square one, the brunch place, a lot rest in peace, and you would see scientologists solve the time smoking and washing windows, just doing I'm sure manual labor. They're not getting paid for. 00:33:19 Speaker 3: They're not. They are not. They have left their families and friends and they are not being paid. It's really bad. 00:33:26 Speaker 2: I've had a lot of experience. I've been into most of the scientology buildings at this point. In the Celebrity Center. Oh did you say celebrity center you were. 00:33:34 Speaker 3: Near I'm near, yeah, Celebrity Center. What's the blue one? 00:33:37 Speaker 2: The blue one, which is the worst shade of blue in the world. That's the I don't remember h Q or or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the one that's more where you're seeing more people smoking and. 00:33:48 Speaker 3: Was that feels like more dormitories over there. There's a couple dorms over by the Celebrity Center that just look like a part They just bought apartment buildings nearby they. 00:33:56 Speaker 2: Painted the blue. Yeah. That one I think is a former hospital or something. 00:34:01 Speaker 3: The whole thing is not a because it's right by the children's hospital. 00:34:04 Speaker 2: Oh I never fit. 00:34:05 Speaker 1: Ye. 00:34:06 Speaker 3: I wonder if maybe. 00:34:06 Speaker 2: They former children's hospital. 00:34:10 Speaker 3: The adult hospital. It's not hospital for former children. 00:34:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've been in that one. I've been into the Celebrity Center. My big note for all of them is let's get the ac going or open a window. 00:34:26 Speaker 3: Oh no, they're stuffy. 00:34:29 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's kind of the vibe they're going for what, or if they're just trying to save a few bucks. But every time I go in, when I'm like, someone crack a window, that's a bummer. I don't know if there's just a fear of someone escaping or someone getting No one's breaking in, let's be honest, Probably not. 00:34:43 Speaker 3: I wouldn't think. 00:34:44 Speaker 2: So what are you going to find? There's the secrets, the tomb after the secrets. 00:34:51 Speaker 3: They're valuable secret. 00:34:53 Speaker 2: I do want to drive out to the desert compound at some point. Oh, I feel like that would be dangerous. 00:35:00 Speaker 3: Well, you got to tick them all off the box. If you're playing scientology bingo, you need to go to all the right. 00:35:04 Speaker 2: And I think I'm almost there, and then oh, then you have to go to Florida, which it's simply not happening. Why would you I'm not going to. 00:35:11 Speaker 3: Clear Water in this economy. Clearwater, Florida. A lot of gators in Florida. 00:35:17 Speaker 2: That's the only place I assumed there were gators in the United States. I was so wrong, so wrong. What about crocodiles. Do we know where crocodileles are? 00:35:27 Speaker 3: Not from here? 00:35:29 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:35:30 Speaker 2: I don't feel like we have. 00:35:31 Speaker 3: Croxt crocs are like what's in like like uh Africa and Australia they have crocodiles. 00:35:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have famously the crocodile. 00:35:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, crocodile Dundee. 00:35:45 Speaker 2: Crocodile Dundee even more famous. 00:35:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we've got gators here. I don't. And then there's like a third weird, isn't there? I remember listen, I read zoo books. 00:35:54 Speaker 2: As a kid. Are we talking about the Komodo dragon? 00:35:59 Speaker 3: No, although those are crazy. Have you seen the videos of like the aquatic iguanas too, like swimming around? 00:36:05 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like to hear that. 00:36:06 Speaker 3: They just look like Godzilla wild are living? I don't know, probably like maybe the Galapagos nowhere you're going, you're. 00:36:16 Speaker 2: That sounds so dangerous. Yeah, to be in like open your eyes underwater and iguanas. 00:36:20 Speaker 3: Coming toward to like swim, they're so fast. 00:36:23 Speaker 2: Do they use their tails? 00:36:24 Speaker 1: Yes? 00:36:26 Speaker 3: Fully like Godzilla? 00:36:28 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:36:29 Speaker 2: Crazy, But you feel like there's a third thing. A crocodile, an alligator and something. 00:36:33 Speaker 3: I feel like there was something else, but maybe they're extinct. 00:36:34 Speaker 1: Now. 00:36:35 Speaker 3: A caman a caman and has a sminnier nose. 00:36:38 Speaker 4: It's like kind of halfway between Like the width of their nose is like halfway between an alligator and a croc Yeah. 00:36:45 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, what are the narrow Yeah? 00:36:51 Speaker 3: Alligators are square, right and crocodiles are more rounding. 00:36:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more friendly. I feel like crocodile is less threatening. It's like a softer alligator or. 00:37:01 Speaker 3: Something that's right, and then a Cayman which is smaller. 00:37:04 Speaker 1: I think. 00:37:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, the things I'm learning hats now giant. 00:37:07 Speaker 3: Different types of hats, different types of lizards. That's what my podcast is about. 00:37:18 Speaker 2: What was Crocodile Dundee's deal? He just happened to be Australian in the United States? Is that the big gimmick I got? I mean the first superhero or something. 00:37:29 Speaker 3: He wasn't a superhero. He was just like an outback like Australian dude. That was the gimmick, I think. 00:37:34 Speaker 2: But he was in the US. 00:37:35 Speaker 3: I think maybe he had to come here, and so it was like a fish out of water story that. 00:37:40 Speaker 2: Feels like such a nothing story. 00:37:42 Speaker 3: I actually don't know. I'm writing it right now, and I bet I'm correct. 00:37:46 Speaker 2: I feel like it's basically it. I don't feel like it's like a time traveler. No, he doesn't like wake up here by accident. 00:37:53 Speaker 3: No, I'm sure he has to come, you know, for some reason, to get to business, to give his kangaroo back or some thing probably, And. 00:38:01 Speaker 2: Then it's just were Australians really a rare thing in the eighties, and then they were in the United States, they were. 00:38:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, exotic enough. It's a long flight. People were like, no, Narn, absolutely no Nar. 00:38:15 Speaker 2: Have you been to Australia? I have What were you doing there? 00:38:18 Speaker 3: I filmed a movie in New Zealand and then afterwards went to Australia for a couple of weeks. 00:38:24 Speaker 2: And what was that experience? Like? 00:38:26 Speaker 3: It was great? I really like Australia. Sydney is one of my favorite cities. New Zealand is gorgeous. I'm sure, jeez, it's just really beautiful. 00:38:34 Speaker 2: It's this flight flight. 00:38:37 Speaker 3: So once you're there, you got to do all of the places to live there. 00:38:41 Speaker 2: You got to live. 00:38:41 Speaker 3: They got to do a month out there at least. 00:38:43 Speaker 2: I can't imagine going for more than four weeks. 00:38:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's far. 00:38:47 Speaker 2: It's like twenty hours or something. Mm hmm, I can What do you do on a flight? 00:38:53 Speaker 3: I watch movies, I sleep, I eat. I try not to drink alcohol anymore because it's you know, like if you drink on a plane, it's like twice as many you have to double your drinks that you've had on a plane. 00:39:05 Speaker 1: You know that. 00:39:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, so bad for you. It's so bad for you. That's why people get drunk on planes by accident. And some people get drunk on purpose on planes, but there's so many like unreally passengers is because they don't know. 00:39:17 Speaker 2: That or I should get into it. 00:39:19 Speaker 3: I know you don't drink, but listen, if you're going to do it for the first. 00:39:22 Speaker 2: Time, start off a plane, start as hard as. 00:39:26 Speaker 3: Perfectly, you know, because you don't have to drink as much. But you get twice the effects on a plane. 00:39:31 Speaker 2: That's nice, And that's why you get more emotional watching movies on them. 00:39:34 Speaker 3: I what is that thing of why you get more emotional watching truly. 00:39:38 Speaker 2: Your body is weak or something. 00:39:40 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. 00:39:41 Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of beautiful. 00:39:43 Speaker 3: I don't have that thing where I cry on planes. Some people have it. 00:39:46 Speaker 2: I don't have it. I am just so miserable. I'm just so unhand it. 00:39:51 Speaker 3: You don't like a plane. 00:39:52 Speaker 2: My body is aching, I'm slightly nauseous. I can't sleep, I can't focus on the nine different types of entertainment I've brought. Yeah, and I have. I'll always download like fifty different podcasts, like I'll get to the airport and remember that I'm googling best podcasts of the year non comedy, and then it's like some I think we're done with all the interesting mysteries. 00:40:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like all the been written and solved, right. 00:40:19 Speaker 2: Like the fiftieth most interesting mystery, not even fiftieth listening to and someone's trying to make compelling. So I'll get through two episodes of that and then I'm screwed. I have to read. Oh the worst thing? 00:40:30 Speaker 1: What are you pour? 00:40:32 Speaker 3: My god? 00:40:34 Speaker 2: Do you read? 00:40:35 Speaker 3: Do you read hard? Like book book to get on a kid? 00:40:38 Speaker 2: I'm on a kindle, but I think I need to get back into real. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: I couldn't do it anymore because I my brain was like it was such a quick step from like a kindle to a phone and then on the phone, I was just like back on social media. I'll wait, So you were brains. 00:40:53 Speaker 2: You were using your phone at your like as the book. Yeah, oh yeah, that would never work for me. 00:40:58 Speaker 3: I can't do it. 00:40:59 Speaker 2: My phone has to be locked away or something. Yes, But even a kindle, I feel like your brain. Our brains have been trained to just no longer accept information if they're looking at a screen. Right, Yeah, So I like I don't even remember the titles of the books I'm reading. 00:41:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sucks. 00:41:14 Speaker 2: It's this whole weird thing. 00:41:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to do a cop part actual copy, and. 00:41:19 Speaker 2: It feels like you're achieving something as you're getting through. 00:41:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you feel smug when you go places holding a book, right, I mean everyone has that, right, not just me. That's so weird. 00:41:30 Speaker 2: Are you reading anything right now? 00:41:31 Speaker 3: I am rereading a book that I loved in my twenties. I reread books a lot. 00:41:36 Speaker 2: I think that's good. I learned in college. I had a professor that said, basically, there's no reading. There's only good rereading because you read a book once just to figure it out, and then you go back through when you read the experience what the author was doing. 00:41:52 Speaker 3: That's fascinating. Yeah, I know people did never reread books. My mom's a voracious reader like so many like reads and reads and reads and reads, but she doesn't re read books. But I will reread a book, especially if I'm like go through a period of time where I'm not reading a lot and I need to like retrain myself. Right, I'll read something that I've already read because I know I'm gonna. 00:42:09 Speaker 2: Just a smart way to get yourself. 00:42:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I get back into the habit right, So, right now, I'm somewhere between rereading and reading something new because it's been so long since I've read this book. It's called Boy's Life. It's by Robert Armagammon. 00:42:21 Speaker 2: It's a big fat recommend it fiction. 00:42:24 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean I did when I was twenty three. 00:42:28 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm going to find some very problematic things. 00:42:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'sn't that the way that is, you're like, you have to watch this movie, and then you're watching a movie with your friend and. 00:42:35 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, you're terrible feeling introducing. 00:42:40 Speaker 3: Leaving your body when you're like, I forgot they use. 00:42:43 Speaker 2: That word, oh the worst, the worst, And even like if I'm like, you have to watch this movie, it's so funny, and then I sit down with someone and they're not laughing. 00:42:52 Speaker 3: I've it's it's so much pressure. 00:42:54 Speaker 2: It's an enormous so much I'll recommend a movie, but I will not chose someone a movie. I can't do it. 00:42:59 Speaker 3: That's watching them watch it is torture for every torture for. 00:43:04 Speaker 2: The expectations are through the roof for both of you. Yeah, and then that you feel like they're resenting you, and now you're starting to hate the movie because it's creating this issue. 00:43:13 Speaker 3: You have the same personality, like this is all about me and you hate it. My ego is huge, but also my self esteem is low. 00:43:26 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh no, oh yeah, that's tough. Well, is there anything left to say about the gorgeous book? I love? Just the is that like a dusty rose color dembre color? Right? 00:43:42 Speaker 3: It's really like I said, I have these on my coffee table and this one is on the on the top because I think it's the prettiest. 00:43:49 Speaker 2: This is also satisfying to have on coffee table because you know, coffee table books are so massive you can't get through. Yeah, visitor, can you can? 00:43:56 Speaker 3: Just you flip through that. Sometimes I will be like, hey, we are waiting read. 00:44:00 Speaker 2: That book's office. 00:44:04 Speaker 3: This is I'm getting ready for to go out. I make my friends and my dates like wait upstairs, hop yourself to a beer, I say, and then I ascend. 00:44:16 Speaker 2: I need to make people wait more often. 00:44:18 Speaker 3: It's great, great power. But you need books, short books. 00:44:23 Speaker 2: I'm constantly on time. No, that's the old me. 00:44:26 Speaker 3: That's the old Yeah. 00:44:27 Speaker 2: Good, well, I feel like we should play a game. Okay, We're going to play a game. Called gift or a curse. But I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:44:35 Speaker 3: Seven. 00:44:35 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So right now, while a song that we don't have the rights to. 00:44:45 Speaker 3: We found a hat by John Classen. 00:44:48 Speaker 2: No, you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want. 00:44:51 Speaker 3: Oh, I will recommend and promote. Well, let's see Saint Dennis Medical. My show on NBC is still airing. We're almost done with this season, but we've got a little bit left. It's on Mondays at eight pm on NBC and the next day on Peacock Saint Dennis Medical. Everyone's favorite medical sitcom. 00:45:12 Speaker 2: That's The Pit. 00:45:12 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, Sorry, that's a lament, fair hilarious. I can't watch the talk about Sam Raimid. 00:45:22 Speaker 2: I can't be. I can't watch. Like a miserable hospital show is tough for me to like realistic. I'm just saying. 00:45:27 Speaker 3: I will say. What I like about The Pit is that it is pretty neutral, like they're just like you know what I mean, Like there are so many hospital shows where they really are like. 00:45:35 Speaker 2: Pure like shock. 00:45:37 Speaker 3: Value, right, But on the Pit, they're like, man, something's wrong with this guy's eye? We're gonna have to lance it. And then they're like, we're gonna lance it now, we're gonna show you. And you're like, no way, they're gonna show. 00:45:49 Speaker 1: They do. 00:45:49 Speaker 3: They're gonna show you. You know it's coming, they tell you it's coming. It's no big deal. They do this every day, Bridgard. 00:45:57 Speaker 2: I can't deal with it. It's too much fair. No, I need a Saint Dennis where everyone where we're not saying too much. 00:46:03 Speaker 3: More, too much gore mostly. 00:46:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, not as much tragedy. It's a whatever. But everybody go watch Saint Dennis Medical and do what you want with the pit. Look, God bless everyone on the pit. And I love a return to an episodic television. 00:46:19 Speaker 3: Yes it is very old school. 00:46:20 Speaker 2: We love it. But I can't be in a hospital like that. I'm gonna end up in one at some point. 00:46:25 Speaker 3: I'll come to our hospital, Dennis. 00:46:27 Speaker 2: All right, this is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell me if they're a gift or a curse, and why. Then I'll tell if you're right or wrong. Because there are correct answers. You could walk away a winner or a loser, be careful, all right. These are all from our Patreon listeners today. This first one, this listener told me how to pronounce their name. It's Laura. Oh, it's la u r a. But with the world r some sort of Scandinavian situation, I think, which is interesting. But gift or a curse being invited to a dinner party in a group text and you ask what can we bring? And the host says nothing and you go up empty handed, but everyone else there has brought something gift? 00:47:03 Speaker 3: Why because I actually for someone on and I said no gifts podcast. I am not a gift giver. I really am not. Like, if I see something that's like perfect for someone, then I will get it, but I don't really I don't give gifts by default. And if you tell me to bring nothing, I'm going to take you at your word, and I'm going to assume you told everyone else the same thing and they did not obey. This is where the conceit of this podcast doesn't match up with my actual personality, because if you said no gifts, I would absolutely obey you. Likewise, I'd be like great, coming empty handed. 00:47:43 Speaker 2: It's an absolute right. I mean we are the same person. Yeah, you've told me. Yeah, I'm doing enough by just showing up. 00:47:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome, and I really mean it. Do I need to bring anything, I'll stop, I'll get one over. Yes, But it's a it's a contract. You have to trust they're going to tell you if you. 00:47:57 Speaker 2: Should bring the absolutely, and when you say, I'm like, thank god. 00:48:01 Speaker 3: Sometimes when you bring something like I don't know, like what if they have their wine picked out, what if they have a whole plan for the meal, what if they don't want your biscuits on the side, like whatever, you know. I do think we should trust people. I should trust them when they say no, thank you. 00:48:16 Speaker 2: Everyone should be honest with their Felix's be a good. 00:48:19 Speaker 3: Communicator and be a good communicator the end. 00:48:21 Speaker 2: Unlike the rest of these people pleasers that showed up with things, they're also desperate to be the wind. 00:48:25 Speaker 3: I would not feel bad, and I would I would feel smug. That's how I would. 00:48:30 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm really I'm especially bad with wine. If I show up with wine, I know it's not going to be anyone's favorite, and then they're going to just be like, oh, thanks, and then it's. 00:48:40 Speaker 3: It goes into the cabinet for them to take somewhere. 00:48:42 Speaker 2: Else, somewhere else exactly, and it was probably brought to my house by someone else. Yeah, there's probably one bottle of wine that's probably hundreds of years old. It's just been passed around from party to part probably and it's probably very good right now. It's good. 00:48:54 Speaker 1: Now. 00:48:55 Speaker 3: Then, if I'm going somewhere where I don't know exactly, I will bring a bottle of wine. Oh, like if somebody there's no if I don't know the person to be like, you know, like if I was going to like a party with a friend or something, or I would I would be like, should we bring a bottle? 00:49:11 Speaker 1: One? 00:49:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bring something. 00:49:12 Speaker 3: I just I want to do what is correct. I'm just going to assume that what is correct is what you've told me to do. If you've told me not to bring anything, I'm gonna believe you. And if there's no rule, i'll be sometimes I'll default to bring exactly exactly. 00:49:29 Speaker 2: Well, you got one right, so far, very good. Second, this is from a listener named Ruth Gift or a Curse, calling a lunch event a luncheon. Gift. 00:49:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's elevate things right, luncheon. Yeah, I mean it does. I don't think it doesn't. It doesn't hurt anything. To call a lunch event a luncheon makes me feel like maybe we should be wearing like little white gloves. But again, put it on the invite up. That's true. 00:50:00 Speaker 2: Would wear gloves tell me. 00:50:01 Speaker 3: What's expected of me? 00:50:02 Speaker 2: If an invite said wear gloves, are probably not going to share what's happening. Should be there shadow what are we going to be doing? 00:50:09 Speaker 3: But I feel like it doesn't. The changing of a lunch event to the calling it a luncheon does not inherently to me signal that it's like extra fancy or anything. I just think it's like a fun different name. Right, Yeah, I'm into it. 00:50:23 Speaker 2: It's correct, it's a gift. It's a gift. 00:50:25 Speaker 3: I love a lunch killing it. 00:50:27 Speaker 2: I'm not getting invited to do enough lunch now. 00:50:29 Speaker 3: We should have more luncheon. Absolutely, we should just call lunch luncheon luncheon. Yes, you take your luncheon break, yeah, exactly. 00:50:37 Speaker 2: I feel like luncheon to me is like it's really laying out. This is going to be more than forty five minutes to an hour, This will be two to three hours. Yeah, it's going to be slightly classy or maybe there will be like a jar of lemonade or something. I hope, So I feel like, why not call it a lunch? 00:50:53 Speaker 1: I love this. 00:50:53 Speaker 2: It's a way better word. 00:50:55 Speaker 3: It's delightful, is what it is. 00:50:57 Speaker 2: Lunch is for slobs. 00:50:59 Speaker 3: Yes, and his ladies. Get your white gloves on. 00:51:04 Speaker 2: I'll be there. Okay, you've gone to rights so far. This is pretty impressive. And finally, this is from a listener named Ryan. Gift or a curse every streaming service having a documentary about the same subject. 00:51:17 Speaker 3: Oh, I know it's a curse, but I love it. I know it's a curse, but I treat it like a gift. Well, okay, if it's a subject I'm interested in. If it's something I'm not interested, I just won't watch either. But I watched the Firefest documentary. I watch both of them in a day. I wanted to know. I mean, I'm fascinated by like, you got that guy? Why did you? Just like Hulu Moore, did you pay him? 00:51:41 Speaker 2: More? 00:51:41 Speaker 3: Like, how did you get that guy? On this one and not on the other one? I love seeing like what holes they've left in the story. I don't know. I think it really pulls back the curtain. I'm like, you know, documentaries are not really altruistic. They're also just films. Yeah, someone's career, someone's career, you know, and so I don't know. I really like the comparing contrast of it. 00:52:03 Speaker 2: I think it's cool. Correct you want you? 00:52:08 Speaker 3: I'm so happy. 00:52:10 Speaker 2: Look, it's a huge pain and it's very much like collecting baseball cards at this point, yes, but I love it. You're getting every possible angle or possible angle. They are juicing these things, and so a lot of documentaries are bad at this point. So if you saw the bad one, you just hop over to another streaming service you might get a better version of it. 00:52:27 Speaker 3: What really helps is like if someone else has watched it first and they can tell you which one. 00:52:32 Speaker 2: To watch first. Oh, yeah, of course, and then you can if you like it, you can go into the other. 00:52:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, They're like, watch this one first, and then it's just a companion piece or whatever. And sometimes I mean it does really does make you see like how produced. 00:52:45 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like getting the people to act. 00:52:47 Speaker 3: There is one of the nexium nexium, which is still. 00:52:52 Speaker 2: Can we just be clear that's also a medicine Is that true. Is there a medicine called nexium? 00:52:58 Speaker 3: Uh, they probably spell it differently. Yeah, that's it is it's yeah, there is what's it for? I think it treats Harper. I was going to say it's yeah, something. 00:53:11 Speaker 2: Which came first, which did. 00:53:13 Speaker 3: Well the num is it nixium? Is that how they say it? 00:53:15 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:53:16 Speaker 3: I think so too. I saw anyway, I saw one of the after like the big HBO one. There was like another one, and I was like, this is deeply weird. It was just weird, like the way she was seeing she was reading off of q CAR. It wasn't like contemporary, like extamboraneous speaking at least, And I was like, this is so bizarre interesting, And so I was like, well, this is not I feel like this is not a trustworthy source. Like, whatever is. 00:53:42 Speaker 2: Happening here, someone has an agenda. 00:53:44 Speaker 3: Someone is Yeah, someone has an agenda. Didn't feel like a documentary. 00:53:48 Speaker 2: Was trying to get some drama going. 00:53:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fascinating, but it was interesting. Nonetheless, it was interesting to see the difference. 00:53:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love these things. I have I still have a ruby Frankie one left. Watch any of these? Yeah, I've heard the new one's really good. 00:54:01 Speaker 3: I have not watched that one. 00:54:03 Speaker 2: Have you seen the Hulu one? Yes, I mean it's one of the most crazy things I've ever seen, sane every ten seconds, it's more wild sane. Yeah. 00:54:12 Speaker 3: I have not watched the new one. Sorry, microphone, I have not watched the new one. I just started the Andrea Yates one. 00:54:18 Speaker 2: What Happened? Oh, that's that's so much. 00:54:20 Speaker 3: That's too dark for you. 00:54:21 Speaker 2: I know, I'm going to watch it. 00:54:23 Speaker 3: It's very dark because that was I mean, yeah, very very dark story. That's the woman who killed all of her children because she was having postpartum psychosis. 00:54:30 Speaker 2: Right, And it was with the van. 00:54:32 Speaker 3: Uh no, in the in the bathtub? 00:54:34 Speaker 2: Oh was the one with the van? That was didn't somebody drive a van into a lake or something? 00:54:41 Speaker 3: In Smith drove her sedan into But there was a people's family on vacation. You're right that there was a van that like, I don't know, listen. 00:54:52 Speaker 2: Oh, then there was there something wrong with Aunt Diana? 00:54:54 Speaker 3: Is something wrong with Aunt Diane? That is such a good story too. You're like, what is happened? Yeah, what happened? 00:55:01 Speaker 2: What happened? We know something's wrong. 00:55:04 Speaker 3: I have to believe that when we die true crime fans, we find out who killed Jomany, we find out what was going on with Antianne. We just like were flooded with information and we're like, it all makes so much sense. I just want to know. 00:55:17 Speaker 2: I just want to I just want an answer. 00:55:19 Speaker 3: I just want an answer. 00:55:20 Speaker 2: Just bizarre human behavior, unexplainable mysteries. I mean, the Ruby Frankie one. I feel like that it's pretty clear. 00:55:27 Speaker 3: What's her name, It's it's obvious what's going on here. There's nothing unexplained there. But some of these stories are I mean they really are, like, what what's going on? 00:55:36 Speaker 2: What happened with the brain? 00:55:38 Speaker 3: What happened? 00:55:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe this other documentary will have something to say about it. I hope Did you know that that compound was on Zillow? No? No, I mean it's in a beautiful neighborhood. Yeah, one of the most beautiful neighborhoods in America. 00:55:52 Speaker 3: Do they have to disclose that, I guess, yeah. 00:55:56 Speaker 2: Like beautifully taken photos of a dungeon. Uh, it's maybe people want a sex room. Oh, you probably don't have to disclose, right, I wouldn't think so. Imagine sitting in your beautiful mansion in southern Utah. Watching a documentary and you're like, oh, wait, this house looks familiar. Being on a tick, that's my dungeon, that's our. 00:56:17 Speaker 3: Sex room, that's our red room. 00:56:20 Speaker 2: A terrible Yeah, I don't know what. I feel like. We've talked about death disclosure with houses on this podcast before, and I think it's all like, it's not you don't have to disclose if someone died in a house. 00:56:32 Speaker 1: I think you do. 00:56:34 Speaker 2: You don't only in some states, I think, oh really yeah, in other states you can just simply sell the haunted house and move on. 00:56:40 Speaker 3: I think you have to in California, I think you have to. 00:56:43 Speaker 2: Think that's right. Yeah, I feel like there are a couple where I think you should. 00:56:47 Speaker 1: I don't. 00:56:48 Speaker 3: I guess I don't know that. 00:56:49 Speaker 2: I don't know that it I think that's added value. 00:56:52 Speaker 3: What was they watching where someone was like, I can't buy a house that's older than you know, oh that's small, more than seventy five years old or something is there like it's going to be haunted as shit. 00:57:00 Speaker 2: My house I think is over one hundred years old. 00:57:02 Speaker 3: Is it hunted? Oh yeah, yeah, no you don't think so. 00:57:05 Speaker 2: I haven't noticed the saying it's a rip I got ripped off. Why buy a house? 00:57:09 Speaker 3: That's that old point. Well maybe you just haven't done the right thing to make them angry yet. 00:57:13 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Okay, I'm start experimenting. Yeah, I just need to unfinish some of their business or something, remind them we're happy. Yeah, well you got I mean you won the game. That's incredible, God bless all of us. There are very few winners on this podcast. 00:57:32 Speaker 3: Yes we're like minded. Yes, I think good for you, best friends. 00:57:36 Speaker 2: And now Ellis has one gift a curse they're going to do for us, and we both have to speak to it. And then I guess Ellis has the correct answer. We'll see. 00:57:46 Speaker 3: Gift a curse. We Sports, we spawn. 00:57:51 Speaker 2: Do you remember we Sports? 00:57:53 Speaker 1: I do? 00:57:55 Speaker 2: Do you want to do it? 00:57:58 Speaker 1: I will do it. 00:57:59 Speaker 3: I think they might be a curse, you guys. And this is said with the like Brecdian gift of remove with time. Because I had a wi and I played the Wei Sports, and I had a we fit, oh of course, which is the we fit is is and was a terrible tool, terrible. 00:58:18 Speaker 2: I got kind of the sequel to that called ring Fit Adventure. What is that saved me during the pandemic. Really it's like a ring you squeeze and do all sorts of stuff. It was incredible. 00:58:26 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, home workouts have come a long way since since we Sports was a thing. I mean, and maybe there's still a thing I don't still have. 00:58:33 Speaker 2: And we Fitness. It was like a board you stood on or something. 00:58:36 Speaker 3: It was like a board that you stood on and it would weigh you, but it would also like test your balance and stuff. 00:58:42 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:58:43 Speaker 3: I just remember like my roommate and I at the time in Chicago both had accounts and I was on it one day and it was like, hey, Alison, it's been a while since Danielle's done this. Maybe you should talk to Maybe you should talk to her. 00:58:56 Speaker 2: And I was like, what the fuck's start drama in the house. 00:59:01 Speaker 1: It started starting. 00:59:01 Speaker 3: I had like her little icon was like looking sad, and I was like, what is happening confront your roommates starting your roommate? 00:59:10 Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on? 00:59:13 Speaker 3: So listen, I think, listen. We Sports is catching some strays from me because I like we Fit was maybe of the devil, but that's how I feel. That's how I feel. 00:59:21 Speaker 2: I had no idea. That's such a bad idea. 00:59:23 Speaker 3: It's so fucked up. 00:59:25 Speaker 2: They probably ruined families. Yeah, that probably led to a lot of divorce. Yeah, and maybe some of those divorces needed to have they have, you know, and it was just the final. 00:59:34 Speaker 3: Strong good work, Donna, Good for you, Good for you, Donna. 00:59:39 Speaker 2: Okay, so you said curse, I said curse. I think gifts. I love the wee sports. I love the bowling, the golf, the tennis. I think tennis. People were throwing their remotes at their tvlevisions. It was getting seniors up at the senior home. We were all playing it for like three months and then we're longer thinking about it ever again. Yeah, of course, it's all kind of always. Whenever I hear the word we it goes back to that woman who drank off the water to win one and died, which was a tough situation. Oh my god, I remember this. Yeah, radio station was making people drink. 01:00:14 Speaker 3: She had like she got like water toxicity or some whatever they call it. I do remember this. 01:00:20 Speaker 2: I think we've come of little ways as a society. 01:00:23 Speaker 3: Was that she had to hold she had always called hold your wi for we right, so she had to drink a bunch of water and not pee. 01:00:29 Speaker 2: Avoid a biological function to win a piece of electronics. Wow, so that comes out. 01:00:37 Speaker 1: You know. 01:00:37 Speaker 2: The Wei was a complicated device. We all have complicated histories with the Wii. But ultimately I thought it was a lot of fun and we were doing the bowling that there was. 01:00:48 Speaker 3: A lot of bowling. I will say it was nice to have an event to do when everyone was together. 01:00:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, the kind of guitar hero, I loved guitar. I just in the last couple of years bought a new guitar. Hero. Did you really had the time of my life? And now it's back in my closet. But I had the time in my life. Yeah, the song selection was bad this time. 01:01:05 Speaker 1: I know. 01:01:07 Speaker 3: I really like just Dance too. 01:01:09 Speaker 2: I never did just dance. 01:01:10 Speaker 3: I thought was really fun. 01:01:11 Speaker 2: Did you actually have to know the moves? No, that you follow along with someone but didn't know you were doing the moves? 01:01:18 Speaker 3: If you held the we that you would hold the weeh and so then I could follow your hands ostensibly, Oh and be like wrong? Correct? 01:01:26 Speaker 2: Do you feel like it made you a better dancer? Yeah, you're the dancer you are today. 01:01:31 Speaker 3: I'm a professional. It made me the woman and the dancer I am today. 01:01:36 Speaker 2: Okay, Well I said gift, she said curse. 01:01:39 Speaker 3: Oh my god, they're a gift. 01:01:41 Speaker 2: Come on, I mean, think about this is correct? 01:01:44 Speaker 4: Finally, did you on November nineteenth, two thousand and six, the playing field was leveled? You didn't have to be good at sports because it wasn't really sports. Everybody could come together pretend to play bowling. And you were saying Alison, like you're you're the flies off of your wrist hits Graham on the face. I mean like it really did create some excitement and bring us all together as friends and families. 01:02:08 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yes, we barely knew her. 01:02:11 Speaker 2: Yeah wow, well I won. Good for me, good for you. All Right, we should answer a listener question people are writing into I said, no gifts at gmail dot com. Will you help me answer a question? Yes, okay, let me open the correct document here. Oh this is rude, says Hybridge and potentially useful guest. How dare you you can answer this however you want. 01:02:33 Speaker 3: I'm gonna answer it with fury. 01:02:35 Speaker 2: Screamed, he's gonna ruin the audio. Okay, says I'm trying to find a birthday present for my partner whose birthday is in late January. Well, I guess next January. He's a difficult person to shop for because he just buys himself everything he wants. For example, he bought a once bought a soda stream, and then bought a new one only weeks after, in a different color to better match his kitchen. The first one still works perfectly fine. I feel like I spend all year molling over gifts to give him, just to have Christmas and his birthday roll around all at once. It's a nightmare. This person's life is hell. A little about him. His hobbies are embroidery, camping, djying, yoga, skateboarding, true crime, cooking, and making frozen margaritas. And yes, he has a frozen marg machine. Mark mark machine. He has a frozen mark machine. Now I'm madam, I'm gonna start screaming. The man owns everything. The best idea I have so far is just something a universally crowd pleasing, like comfy pajamas, but it just doesn't feel personal enough. As a benchmark. For Christmas, I got him a pair of vintage Raptors basketball shorts. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Cheers Carolyn. Okay, Carolyn, so the boyfriend has bought everything. 01:03:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hard when you have someone who can and. 01:03:51 Speaker 2: Does buy themselves, right, they want another. 01:03:53 Speaker 3: Adult, another adult, specially buying presents for your parents. I'm always like, I don't know they've got what they want to eat. 01:03:59 Speaker 2: I gave up a long time. 01:04:00 Speaker 1: I don't. 01:04:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really unless I get unless I'm. 01:04:02 Speaker 2: Like, oh right, Dad would love this. 01:04:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yes, I mean I I think it's interesting. Like everything that Carolyn Caroline listed is like a physical thing, but there's also you know, coupon, like you can buy them a massage, you can get them you know, membership at a woodworking shop where they can go in and like learn how to build things or whatever. 01:04:24 Speaker 2: Play a psychological game. 01:04:26 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, okay, we're listen, we're spitballing, We're we're riffing here. There's no bad ideas, no bad idea. I mean, I guess when I get into a situation situation like that, I try to think, like, what's something that this person wouldn't buy it for themselves, And a lot of times it's like, yeah, you have to take a pause and go do this or I'm giving you, you know, airline miles, go visit your best friend in Boston, whatever, you know what I mean. 01:04:54 Speaker 5: That's okay again, no bad ideas, there's a good keep Okay, let's keep going here. Surgery sometimes yeah, yeah, but it's hard to because you don't like you can't be like, I'm. 01:05:08 Speaker 3: Going to get you some botox, because like do a need both you well you. 01:05:12 Speaker 2: Get you get them to that by you know, kind of lightly insulting them through the year, start now for next chane and there's self confidence to a place where they're going to be so thrilled for this new search. 01:05:23 Speaker 3: God, I do need a procedure. 01:05:27 Speaker 2: I mean, he's Carolyn Is saying he's bought himself too so to streams. He obviously loves that device. Why not a third matches, bathroom matches, car people office, Yeah, stream in the car? Can you imagine? Is this a thing that feels like one something you could have in the trunk? 01:05:45 Speaker 3: What's your business idea? 01:05:48 Speaker 2: My god? 01:05:48 Speaker 3: Trunk stream, trunk stream, I love it. 01:05:53 Speaker 2: God, the amount of money I should be making on off my ideas. I could leave this podcast forever. 01:05:58 Speaker 3: Sneak it into the contracts. It's they're legally binding. 01:06:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. It's going to take all these ideas and go to shark tank and I'm going to be continuing to struggle. And I'm struggling here. No one stealed trunk stream. 01:06:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, a stream. I don't own a soda stream. 01:06:15 Speaker 2: I don't either. 01:06:16 Speaker 3: I've seen them the other day because I got some topo chicos and like these beautiful glass bottles and I was like, wait, am I the villain? Should I'm not? 01:06:27 Speaker 2: Boy? 01:06:28 Speaker 3: I love it so more waste And I was like, oh, is this why people own soda streams? 01:06:33 Speaker 2: So they are more waste? Are they? 01:06:36 Speaker 3: Because I don't genuinely don't know. I mean, there's like a pod in them or look so. 01:06:39 Speaker 2: To stream reach out. But what I'm thinking is this is something different, and yeah, I'll wear the T shirts, I'll drive the car. You can wrap my car. I feel like there a lot of these are being given as gifts at like weddings, to people who don't want them. Then it's a piece of plastic. Yeah, And then I'm imagining, however, it's sold as probably in another piece of plastic. 01:07:00 Speaker 3: People swear by them, but I don't. I mean I don't know. 01:07:03 Speaker 2: Who swears by a soda. 01:07:04 Speaker 3: Stream people from two thy seventeen. 01:07:10 Speaker 2: I mean I might. Maybe I should try we should try it. I think I do prefer like a soda out of a fountain to a can. So I wonder if this would be more of bad experience. 01:07:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, more bubbles, more bubbles, extra bubbles. 01:07:22 Speaker 2: More bubbles. Yeah. But I also love a topachico. I love the bottle. They've killed it with that bottle. 01:07:27 Speaker 3: They've killed it with that bottle. It reminds me of Texas. 01:07:30 Speaker 2: I love them. I was told by my boyfriend yesterday that it is and this could may or may not be true, elice if you want to fact check this. He told me it's the water with the most I think forever chemicals in it. 01:07:44 Speaker 3: Ooh, that's what they're called, which sounds. 01:07:47 Speaker 2: Actually very romantic to me. Forever chemicals. 01:07:50 Speaker 3: It's very kay, jewelry, forever chemicals. This Christmas love them enough to give them forever chemicals. 01:08:03 Speaker 2: That may or may not be true. I should say that for legal reasons. Everyone do your own well, don't do now. I don't want to say do your own research, because that now it's in the wind. 01:08:13 Speaker 3: Ask your doctor, you need to learn hypnosis for the show, so you can just sa people forget the thing that you just accidentally. 01:08:21 Speaker 2: That's that's a wild yeah, that could lead to me having more power. Why, Well, we answered the question perfectly, Carolyn, Never write back in I've got my book. I'm so thrilled. I've got to the end of a trilogy. So I have to go back in order to figure out why I can build your collection, Why this rich world is as it is? You know this is the what's the final one? And Lord of the Rings? The Return of the King. 01:08:48 Speaker 3: This is my return, the Return of the King. You're working back. 01:08:52 Speaker 2: I've had such a lovely time with you. 01:08:54 Speaker 3: Me to thank you for having me. 01:08:55 Speaker 2: Thank you, and listener, the podcast is it over? We're going to go for another hour. No, I'm kidding. What if that happened. I'm kidding. No, but someday I'm gonna do that and the guest is going. 01:09:08 Speaker 3: To die quietly sneak out. You hear me fumbling for the door. 01:09:17 Speaker 2: No, listen to the podcast is over. I'm sorry to break it to you, and I'm sorry that I surprised you with that little thinking of we're gonna go for another hour. That's your fault for believing anything. I say, move on with your day, I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts? Gay? 01:10:00 Speaker 1: Did you hear thought? I made myself perfectly clear. When you're I guess to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess, you're a presences presents enough I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me