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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: We failed where the I'm the foster. I'm sorry, I'm

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Speaker 2: He is a he's a foster success. I did it.

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Speaker 2: It's an Italian grace exactly. Yeah, you don't even know

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Speaker 3: No idea, but I know he rules my household.

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Speaker 2: Is this your first cat?

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Speaker 3: She in that raptor stage where she's got those super

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Speaker 2: Oh she's she's like, the teeth aren't sharp anymore and

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Speaker 2: It's bad. But she is becoming more a dog now,

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Speaker 3: They're insane. Yeah, they're really they're like, I'm a friend

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Speaker 3: He's like he was supposed to come to the movie Yester,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been funny how like pets have different roles

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Speaker 2: We're totally different things from Yeah, she listens to him

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Speaker 3: You know I am some somewhat in charge, right, you

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Speaker 3: People are having lesonless people having kids or having kids later,

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Speaker 2: I simply have no plans for a child, so me

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Speaker 3: This lucky lucky cat, lucky dog.

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Speaker 3: I think that Bud is now like an established gentleman

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Speaker 2: Well, he's on this, I think taking out his territory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that I have the space now,

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Speaker 2: Years from now, you'll get into possum's bats, right, exactly

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Speaker 2: Were they desperate for water?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, that's sad.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was really a nightmare. It was a nightmare situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for all of us, I guess because these things also

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Speaker 3: No, they haven't been Okay, Yeah again, this is like

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Speaker 2: I'm like reader, You're right, just come in here covered

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Speaker 2: I was looking forward to having you here on the podcast.

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00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 2: I thought, Alison will come by, we'll have a nice chat,

444
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 2: we'll move on with our days, like any.

445
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 3: Podcast, normal podcasts.

446
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, podcast asked here is called? I said, no gifts,

447
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,160
Speaker 2: and I assume at some point somebody mentioned the title

448
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 2: to you. So I was a little surprised when you

449
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,119
Speaker 2: peeled into the parking lot, slammed on your brakes, and

450
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 2: stepped out holding what's obviously a gift for me? Is

451
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 2: it a gift for me? Okay?

452
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 3: Interesting, I'm a bit of a rebel, ask anyone. So

453
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 3: I saw the title, I'm familiar with the show, and

454
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 3: I said, fuck it, so well, should we open it

455
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 3: here on the podcast?

456
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: Do it? It's in a gorgeous bag.

457
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 1: Thank you.

458
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: It's stunning pink bag with the is this a leopard

459
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 2: or at cheetah?

460
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 3: I think they're jaguars or something. The third option that Alison.

461
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 2: They don't know, Wait, what is a jaguar? Actually are

462
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 2: jaguars a leopard is wait, oh, no, panther is black?

463
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 2: Do all of these things have spots.

464
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 3: They all have spots, but some of them are black,

465
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 3: and their spots are so faint because they're like black

466
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 3: on they're like undercoats or something.

467
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 4: Right, Like jaguars have like spots with spots inside them,

468
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 4: if that makes sense. So it's like leopards are a

469
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 4: little more faded spots, and jaguars have very detailed spots.

470
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 2: All right, leopards kind of like a jaguar put through

471
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 2: the wash.

472
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: And this is not a cheat.

473
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't look fast, extremely slow. This is a jaguar

474
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: and it's all over this bag. Okay, let's reach in.

475
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 2: Oh look at the amount of tissue.

476
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 3: You know what that's I think that's almost all my

477
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 3: tissue papers. I wanted. I wanted it to look good,

478
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 3: so disrespectful.

479
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: Okay, issue, This is like a thick steak. Okay, reaching in,

480
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: there's more. They haven't abused the tissue in a while, okay, okay. Oh,

481
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 2: this is a really beautiful book, isn't it pretty. It's

482
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 2: called We Found a Hat by John Class. Yeah, and

483
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 2: there are two little tortoises on the front. And they

484
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: found a hat.

485
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: They found a ten gallon hat. It's also there's a

486
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 3: sticker on there that says signed by the author, So

487
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: you're welcome, signed copy.

488
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: Let's see this pass, Let's see here. It's just subtle.

489
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a scribble audiograph autograph too, so I'm

490
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 3: I'm familiar with the game.

491
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: People need to get to just a you know, straight

492
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: writing their name out.

493
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my name, preferably confist, hold it in your

494
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 3: just maybe a crayon, fat kind.

495
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: Who's the celebrity that's going to pick up that trend?

496
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: It's time? This is beautiful. It's from Skylight Books, the

497
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: local book store. Tell me why you brought this? So?

498
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 3: I am a big fan of having children's books around

499
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 3: that are like funny and touching and like interesting. So

500
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 3: I have a copy of this. It's actually a trilogy.

501
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: In the trilogy, oh, this is the end, they're looking

502
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: for a hat.

503
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 3: The first one is, this is not my hat? Oh,

504
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 3: And then the second one is.

505
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: What is it called?

506
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: I lost my hat? Where's my hat? I can't find

507
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: my hat? I don't remember, And then this one is

508
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: we found a hat. So they're all about hats.

509
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: Is the first one like a red mega hat.

510
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: It is a red habit.

511
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 2: It's not about interesting. It's a little is it.

512
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like a little bowler hat.

513
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: Oh cute?

514
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 3: But you know, listen, they operate independently. You don't have

515
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: to have Red runs to the other. And this was

516
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: my This is my favorite because it's really about friendship.

517
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: The first two about strictly hats.

518
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 3: The first one is about fevery. He stole a hat.

519
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 3: This fish stole a hat. Okay, a fish stole a

520
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 3: hat from a bigger fish, which was foolish. And he's

521
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 3: running away with the hat, swimming away with it right.

522
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: Right, and does he get what's coming to it?

523
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 3: I think he gets eight. I think he gets eaten.

524
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 2: It's like a capital punishment and it's.

525
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: The animal Kingdom. Nobody's eaten or dies in this one.

526
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 3: So that's why it's my favorite.

527
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: So there are different animals every time. In the Hands, yeah.

528
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: The second one is a bear who's.

529
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: Looking for his hat. Okay, and what sort of hat

530
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: does he end up with?

531
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: He has like a little like a took with like

532
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 3: a pom pom on the top.

533
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: I think took, Yeah, I don't know, a little beanie yeah,

534
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: t o ok.

535
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: T oh, how do you spelled took t o q

536
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 3: u E.

537
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

538
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, this is a new piece of vocabulary for

539
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: the get up took hat. Yeah yeah, let me look

540
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: this up really quick. Took hat t o t o

541
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: q u E. I did it, Yes, I just did it.

542
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 2: And it seems to be like, uh, it describes all

543
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: kinds of hats, really a kind of a beanie. But

544
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 2: then the Wikipedia thing is, well, I guess that's a beanie,

545
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: but why is it on this painting. It's like a

546
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: Renaissance painting.

547
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 3: It's like a beanie, but there's obviously some shaping inside of.

548
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: That, a little bit of shape.

549
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got structure to it.

550
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 2: It does look like you could have bought it at

551
00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: a lid, because if.

552
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: You have a like looser things on bottom, you need

553
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: structure up top right balance. That's your outfit. So he

554
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: knows what he's doing.

555
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: A took. That's so interesting. It's wow, the amount of

556
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: words we have for hats.

557
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: Too many, too many.

558
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: So the bear finds a cook.

559
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: And he's lost his took, and he's going looking.

560
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: Does he ever find it?

561
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: He does find it. A rabbit took it. He eats

562
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: the rabbit.

563
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: He eats a rabbit. Those are crazy brutal books. He's

564
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: a quartermack McCarthy. But they're so beautiful.

565
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: They are kind of they aren't. They're like stark and beautiful.

566
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

567
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: But in this book they find this hat but there's

568
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: only one hat.

569
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: Oh, no someone die, No one dies.

570
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 3: They're both like, they're like, how does it look on

571
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 3: his two tortose friends. It's like, how does it look

572
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 3: on me? And he's like, it looks really good. And

573
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: he's like, how's it look on me? And he's like,

574
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 3: it looks really good. And they're like, but no one

575
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: can have the hat cause there's only one hat. So

576
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: they leave, but one of them is like, I'm gonna

577
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 3: go back for that Hell who thinks about going? But

578
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 3: he's dreaming about like the hat. But then in the

579
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: end and he realizes that he doesn't want to lose

580
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: his friend. It's more important to have his friend than

581
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: have the hat. And he goes back to sleep and

582
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: he dreams that they both have hats.

583
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: Oh that's really sweet. I feel like the author must

584
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: have gotten some feedback on the first two he might have.

585
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 3: These books are they're so beautifully drawn and they're I mean,

586
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: I know, they're just gorgeous, and I do. I have

587
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: all three of them at home on my coffee table.

588
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: I love them. Some of the other illustrations and oh

589
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: my god, it really is so pretty.

590
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 3: I know.

591
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: So how are you finding these? Do you just go brows?

592
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: I found these? I was in Portland on a trip

593
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 3: with my partner and we were in a bookstore and

594
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: there was like a display of like these John Glassen

595
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: books and I was like, oh, he must be like

596
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: the local the local guy.

597
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: He's not.

598
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 3: He's from Canada. They just really liked him, I guess

599
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 3: in Portland, so they I read. I read them in order.

600
00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 3: I'm a big reader and I'm pretty fast, so you know,

601
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: it didn't four hundred books did take me long to

602
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 3: read three children's books. And I just bought all of them.

603
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: I just thought they were so sweet and honey, oh

604
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: this is really lovely. Yeah, so there you go. You're welcome.

605
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 3: Are you glad I brought you?

606
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: I am glad. This is really sweet. I have nieces

607
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: and nephews and I'm always like I feel like and

608
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: also friends having babies or whatever, and I'll be like,

609
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to get them of the best children's books,

610
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: But then I feel like they're probably the most obvious choices,

611
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: and they probably have multiple copies.

612
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: It's hard.

613
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: It's really as someone who's not involved in the world

614
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: of children at all, I'm like, well, I don't really

615
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: know what the trends are, no.

616
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: And you don't know what the new thing is, and

617
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: you've got to assume they already have Where the Wild

618
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: Things Are and good Night Moon and all that stuff

619
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: like that. The classics.

620
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: Do you know the Kissing Hand? Do you know this one?

621
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: This is a heartbreaking one. I think that's what it's called,

622
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: the Kissing Hand. But yeah, yes, it's about a raccoon

623
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: and it's mom, I mean the whole I mean, it's

624
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: just heartbreaking. It'll share my mom in it, your mother

625
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: in character. She plays the role of the kissing hands.

626
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: Oh I don't know that.

627
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good to know. That's a great one to

628
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: give to new parents. Yeah, and it has raccoons and

629
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: it's a you know, I feel like it whenever I

630
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: look at newer children's books that are trying to be

631
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: funny or whatever, and I find that very annoying. Yeah,

632
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure kids love them, but children have bad taste.

633
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: I just think there's I can't I don't know. There's

634
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: some Bookiddlren's books that I'm like not into and somebody.

635
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: I just am.

636
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: I can't say why.

637
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: Right, It's weird when like a children's book, like as

638
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: an adult, you feel like you would have no feeling

639
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: on any of them.

640
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it kind of spoke to me.

641
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: This one very timeless.

642
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do love it, and I'm sorry there's a

643
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: little rip.

644
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: On the cover, but oh, throw it away.

645
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: You know it's been it's been loved. Can't sell hands

646
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: at Skotline Books.

647
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: I guess.

648
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite children's book?

649
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Oh?

650
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: Man, that's hard to say. I did love Where the

651
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: Wild Things Are when I was a kid. I have

652
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: like fun memories of going on a bear hunt, like

653
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: with reading that to my sister when she was like.

654
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: Why have I heard of that?

655
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: Going on a bear hunt? Can't go over it, can't

656
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: go under it. Oh, going on bear hunt's fun? They don't,

657
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: they don't. No one dies in them.

658
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, it's more about it's.

659
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: Just like the kids are. I don't know, I don't

660
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: know why they said, you know what, you're right?

661
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: Oh my child?

662
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: Oh no.

663
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: Oh, have you ever considered writing a kid's book?

664
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: I haven't.

665
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: I feel like that's something that is within almost anyone's right, anybody.

666
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: I know.

667
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: I was helping a friend of mine, like visualize what

668
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: to do with her closet reorganization, and I was like,

669
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: what are those and she was like, oh, that's my

670
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: children's book.

671
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: What And I was like what.

672
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: She's like, you don't know I wrote a children's book.

673
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: And I was like no, and she's like, those are

674
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: the rest of the copies left in the world. There's

675
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: like fifty of them on her shelf. I was like, wow,

676
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: you just wrote a children's book and got it published.

677
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: It feels like the bar is simultaneously very low and

678
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: very high, because it's like, you read ones like that

679
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: was almost nothing and there are three lessons kids can learn,

680
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: so but then it's like, how do you get published?

681
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: How do you get published?

682
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: Pick the obvious idea, then do some rhyming, and then

683
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: like yeah, and.

684
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: Then like do you become a famous children's book author?

685
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's harder now than it used to be.

686
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure everybody's trying to get into that gay

687
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, make that big money.

688
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: It's either that or become a real estate agent.

689
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: That's it.

690
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one who left acting is like going to

691
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: get into children's books or.

692
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: Real estate or become a therapist, which no one in

693
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: the entertainment business should be allowed to then enter therapy.

694
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: It happens too often. No, have you ever run into

695
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: a therapist who's like a former actor? Not that I know,

696
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: God bless. There are a lot of them around, and

697
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're all great, but there's that initial like, oh,

698
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: how am I supposed to trust you?

699
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: Like an actor that's like recognizable from a sitcom you

700
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: watched as a child or something.

701
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: Tom Cruise, what happened?

702
00:30:59,040 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: Oh?

703
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: I guess he's literally like the last person who would

704
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: enter the mental health field, no, considering religion and everything.

705
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: Scientology, Yeah right.

706
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: I don't think you go from scientology to becoming a therapist,

707
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: but I encourage the journey.

708
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: Times are crazy. We don't know.

709
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to that museum?

710
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: Does the scientology museum?

711
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: The Museum of Death?

712
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: Oh?

713
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: No, what is it called called?

714
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: Like it's like pharmaceutical, like.

715
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: Psychiatry the Museum of Death or something?

716
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, over in Hollywood, the actual Museum of Death

717
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: over in Hollywood.

718
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: Right, they're two different things.

719
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: Yes, the Museum of Death I've been to. I've not

720
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: been to the Scientology Museum of that.

721
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Museum of Death is more about like death itself.

722
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like a macabre museum.

723
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: Right, And I feel like I'm putting myself on a

724
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: list here. The Scientology Museum is like why psychiatry kills

725
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: you and why psychiatry caused nine to eleven.

726
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: I've been medicated for a lot of years, so I

727
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: don't know that I need.

728
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: To go there. I've been through it and it's a

729
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: fascinating experience.

730
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I'm good.

731
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: If you want to go into a museum where you

732
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: will be the only person.

733
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: I have the museum for you, feel like I used

734
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: to let. My old place was right by the Scientology building,

735
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: the Celebrity Center, and I was always like, I feel

736
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: like I'm on I feel like I'm being watched. If

737
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: I like cause too long, or to read the sign,

738
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: or I pick up a pamphlet, I'm like, they're watching me.

739
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: They're I guarantee they're watching.

740
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good.

741
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: I love going around there though, and seeing different scientologists,

742
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: like maintaining the building. Like I remember seeing a woman

743
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: who's probably in her mid sixties at the top of

744
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: a very high ladder holding a bucket barely like, no,

745
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: get her down, from her down? Why is she doing

746
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: manual washing the windows?

747
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: She's working her way up the ladder engines.

748
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: And a lot of smoking, really shocking amount of smoking. Huh.

749
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: I guess that's like kind of the thing.

750
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: That's how wonderful for them that they don't have to

751
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: tell me about smoking like the rest of us.

752
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 2: I feel like I've seen a lot of smokers over there.

753
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: I used to go to that place, Square one, the

754
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: brunch place, a lot rest in peace, and you would

755
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: see scientologists solve the time smoking and washing windows, just

756
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: doing I'm sure manual labor. They're not getting paid for.

757
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: They're not. They are not. They have left their families

758
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: and friends and they are not being paid. It's really bad.

759
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of experience. I've been into most

760
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: of the scientology buildings at this point. In the Celebrity Center.

761
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: Oh did you say celebrity center you were.

762
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 3: Near I'm near, yeah, Celebrity Center. What's the blue one?

763
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: The blue one, which is the worst shade of blue

764
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: in the world. That's the I don't remember h Q

765
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: or or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the one that's

766
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: more where you're seeing more people smoking and.

767
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: Was that feels like more dormitories over there. There's a

768
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: couple dorms over by the Celebrity Center that just look

769
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: like a part They just bought apartment buildings nearby they.

770
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: Painted the blue. Yeah. That one I think is a

771
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: former hospital or something.

772
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: The whole thing is not a because it's right by

773
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: the children's hospital.

774
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: Oh I never fit.

775
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: Ye.

776
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: I wonder if maybe.

777
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: They former children's hospital.

778
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 3: The adult hospital. It's not hospital for former children.

779
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've been in that one. I've been into

780
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: the Celebrity Center. My big note for all of them

781
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: is let's get the ac going or open a window.

782
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 3: Oh no, they're stuffy.

783
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's kind of the vibe they're

784
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: going for what, or if they're just trying to save

785
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: a few bucks. But every time I go in, when

786
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, someone crack a window, that's a bummer. I

787
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: don't know if there's just a fear of someone escaping

788
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: or someone getting No one's breaking in, let's be honest,

789
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: Probably not.

790
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: I wouldn't think.

791
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: So what are you going to find? There's the secrets,

792
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: the tomb after the secrets.

793
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 3: They're valuable secret.

794
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: I do want to drive out to the desert compound

795
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: at some point. Oh, I feel like that would be dangerous.

796
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: Well, you got to tick them all off the box.

797
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 3: If you're playing scientology bingo, you need to go to

798
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: all the right.

799
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: And I think I'm almost there, and then oh, then

800
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: you have to go to Florida, which it's simply not happening.

801
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: Why would you I'm not going to.

802
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: Clear Water in this economy. Clearwater, Florida. A lot of

803
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 3: gators in Florida.

804
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: That's the only place I assumed there were gators in

805
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: the United States. I was so wrong, so wrong. What

806
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: about crocodiles. Do we know where crocodileles are?

807
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: Not from here?

808
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

809
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: I don't feel like we have.

810
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: Croxt crocs are like what's in like like uh Africa

811
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: and Australia they have crocodiles.

812
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have famously the crocodile.

813
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, crocodile Dundee.

814
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: Crocodile Dundee even more famous.

815
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we've got gators here. I don't. And then

816
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: there's like a third weird, isn't there? I remember listen,

817
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 3: I read zoo books.

818
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: As a kid. Are we talking about the Komodo dragon?

819
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: No, although those are crazy. Have you seen the videos

820
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: of like the aquatic iguanas too, like swimming around?

821
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like to hear that.

822
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: They just look like Godzilla wild are living? I don't know,

823
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: probably like maybe the Galapagos nowhere you're going, you're.

824
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: That sounds so dangerous. Yeah, to be in like open

825
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: your eyes underwater and iguanas.

826
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 3: Coming toward to like swim, they're so fast.

827
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: Do they use their tails?

828
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: Yes?

829
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: Fully like Godzilla?

830
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: Oh?

831
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: Crazy, But you feel like there's a third thing. A crocodile,

832
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: an alligator and something.

833
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: I feel like there was something else, but maybe they're extinct.

834
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: Now.

835
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: A caman a caman and has a sminnier nose.

836
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 4: It's like kind of halfway between Like the width of

837
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 4: their nose is like halfway between an alligator and a

838
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 4: croc Yeah.

839
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, what are the narrow Yeah?

840
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: Alligators are square, right and crocodiles are more rounding.

841
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more friendly. I feel like crocodile is less threatening.

842
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: It's like a softer alligator or.

843
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 3: Something that's right, and then a Cayman which is smaller.

844
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: I think.

845
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the things I'm learning hats now giant.

846
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: Different types of hats, different types of lizards. That's what

847
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: my podcast is about.

848
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: What was Crocodile Dundee's deal? He just happened to be

849
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: Australian in the United States? Is that the big gimmick

850
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: I got? I mean the first superhero or something.

851
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: He wasn't a superhero. He was just like an outback

852
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 3: like Australian dude. That was the gimmick, I think.

853
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 2: But he was in the US.

854
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: I think maybe he had to come here, and so

855
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: it was like a fish out of water story that.

856
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: Feels like such a nothing story.

857
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: I actually don't know. I'm writing it right now, and

858
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: I bet I'm correct.

859
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: I feel like it's basically it. I don't feel like

860
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 2: it's like a time traveler. No, he doesn't like wake

861
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: up here by accident.

862
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 3: No, I'm sure he has to come, you know, for

863
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: some reason, to get to business, to give his kangaroo

864
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: back or some thing probably, And.

865
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: Then it's just were Australians really a rare thing in

866
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: the eighties, and then they were in the United States,

867
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: they were.

868
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, exotic enough. It's a long flight. People were like, no, Narn,

869
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: absolutely no Nar.

870
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: Have you been to Australia? I have What were you

871
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: doing there?

872
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: I filmed a movie in New Zealand and then afterwards

873
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 3: went to Australia for a couple of weeks.

874
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: And what was that experience? Like?

875
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: It was great? I really like Australia. Sydney is one

876
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: of my favorite cities. New Zealand is gorgeous. I'm sure, jeez,

877
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: it's just really beautiful.

878
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: It's this flight flight.

879
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: So once you're there, you got to do all of

880
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: the places to live there.

881
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: You got to live.

882
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: They got to do a month out there at least.

883
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: I can't imagine going for more than four weeks.

884
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's far.

885
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: It's like twenty hours or something. Mm hmm, I can

886
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: What do you do on a flight?

887
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: I watch movies, I sleep, I eat. I try not

888
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: to drink alcohol anymore because it's you know, like if

889
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: you drink on a plane, it's like twice as many

890
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: you have to double your drinks that you've had on

891
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: a plane.

892
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: You know that.

893
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so bad for you. It's so bad for you.

894
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: That's why people get drunk on planes by accident. And

895
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: some people get drunk on purpose on planes, but there's

896
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: so many like unreally passengers is because they don't know.

897
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: That or I should get into it.

898
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: I know you don't drink, but listen, if you're going

899
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: to do it for the first.

900
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: Time, start off a plane, start as hard as.

901
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: Perfectly, you know, because you don't have to drink as much.

902
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: But you get twice the effects on a plane.

903
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: That's nice, And that's why you get more emotional watching

904
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: movies on them.

905
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: I what is that thing of why you get more

906
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 3: emotional watching truly.

907
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: Your body is weak or something.

908
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.

909
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of beautiful.

910
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: I don't have that thing where I cry on planes.

911
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: Some people have it.

912
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: I don't have it. I am just so miserable. I'm

913
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: just so unhand it.

914
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: You don't like a plane.

915
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: My body is aching, I'm slightly nauseous. I can't sleep,

916
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: I can't focus on the nine different types of entertainment

917
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: I've brought. Yeah, and I have. I'll always download like

918
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: fifty different podcasts, like I'll get to the airport and

919
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: remember that I'm googling best podcasts of the year non comedy,

920
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: and then it's like some I think we're done with

921
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: all the interesting mysteries.

922
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like all the been written and solved, right.

923
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: Like the fiftieth most interesting mystery, not even fiftieth listening

924
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 2: to and someone's trying to make compelling. So I'll get

925
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: through two episodes of that and then I'm screwed. I

926
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: have to read. Oh the worst thing?

927
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: What are you pour?

928
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 3: My god?

929
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 2: Do you read?

930
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: Do you read hard? Like book book to get on

931
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: a kid?

932
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm on a kindle, but I think I need to

933
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: get back into real.

934
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't do it anymore because I my brain was

935
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: like it was such a quick step from like a

936
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: kindle to a phone and then on the phone, I

937
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: was just like back on social media. I'll wait, So

938
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: you were brains.

939
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 2: You were using your phone at your like as the book. Yeah,

940
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: oh yeah, that would never work for me.

941
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 3: I can't do it.

942
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 2: My phone has to be locked away or something. Yes,

943
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: But even a kindle, I feel like your brain. Our

944
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 2: brains have been trained to just no longer accept information

945
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: if they're looking at a screen. Right, Yeah, So I

946
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: like I don't even remember the titles of the books

947
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm reading.

948
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sucks.

949
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: It's this whole weird thing.

950
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to do a cop part actual copy, and.

951
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: It feels like you're achieving something as you're getting through.

952
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you feel smug when you go places holding

953
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: a book, right, I mean everyone has that, right, not

954
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: just me. That's so weird.

955
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: Are you reading anything right now?

956
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: I am rereading a book that I loved in my twenties.

957
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: I reread books a lot.

958
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: I think that's good. I learned in college. I had

959
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: a professor that said, basically, there's no reading. There's only

960
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: good rereading because you read a book once just to

961
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: figure it out, and then you go back through when

962
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 2: you read the experience what the author was doing.

963
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: That's fascinating. Yeah, I know people did never reread books.

964
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: My mom's a voracious reader like so many like reads

965
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 3: and reads and reads and reads, but she doesn't re

966
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: read books. But I will reread a book, especially if

967
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: I'm like go through a period of time where I'm

968
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 3: not reading a lot and I need to like retrain myself. Right,

969
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: I'll read something that I've already read because I know

970
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna.

971
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 2: Just a smart way to get yourself.

972
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I get back into the habit right, So,

973
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: right now, I'm somewhere between rereading and reading something new

974
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: because it's been so long since I've read this book.

975
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: It's called Boy's Life. It's by Robert Armagammon.

976
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: It's a big fat recommend it fiction.

977
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean I did when I was twenty three.

978
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm going to find some very problematic things.

979
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'sn't that the way that is, you're like, you

980
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: have to watch this movie, and then you're watching a

981
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: movie with your friend and.

982
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, you're terrible feeling introducing.

983
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 3: Leaving your body when you're like, I forgot they use.

984
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: That word, oh the worst, the worst, And even like

985
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: if I'm like, you have to watch this movie, it's

986
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: so funny, and then I sit down with someone and

987
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: they're not laughing.

988
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: I've it's it's so much pressure.

989
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: It's an enormous so much I'll recommend a movie, but

990
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: I will not chose someone a movie. I can't do it.

991
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: That's watching them watch it is torture for every torture for.

992
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: The expectations are through the roof for both of you. Yeah,

993
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: and then that you feel like they're resenting you, and

994
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: now you're starting to hate the movie because it's creating

995
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: this issue.

996
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 3: You have the same personality, like this is all about

997
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: me and you hate it. My ego is huge, but

998
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: also my self esteem is low.

999
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh no, oh yeah, that's tough. Well,

1000
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: is there anything left to say about the gorgeous book?

1001
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: I love? Just the is that like a dusty rose

1002
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: color dembre color? Right?

1003
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: It's really like I said, I have these on my

1004
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: coffee table and this one is on the on the

1005
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: top because I think it's the prettiest.

1006
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: This is also satisfying to have on coffee table because

1007
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, coffee table books are so massive you can't

1008
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: get through. Yeah, visitor, can you can?

1009
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: Just you flip through that. Sometimes I will be like, hey,

1010
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: we are waiting read.

1011
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: That book's office.

1012
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: This is I'm getting ready for to go out. I

1013
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 3: make my friends and my dates like wait upstairs, hop

1014
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: yourself to a beer, I say, and then I ascend.

1015
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: I need to make people wait more often.

1016
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: It's great, great power. But you need books, short books.

1017
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: I'm constantly on time. No, that's the old me.

1018
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: That's the old Yeah.

1019
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: Good, well, I feel like we should play a game. Okay,

1020
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 2: We're going to play a game. Called gift or a curse.

1021
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: But I need a number between one and ten from you.

1022
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: Seven.

1023
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do some light calculating to get

1024
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: our game pieces. So right now, while a song that

1025
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: we don't have the rights to.

1026
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: We found a hat by John Classen.

1027
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 2: No, you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want.

1028
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 3: Oh, I will recommend and promote. Well, let's see Saint

1029
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: Dennis Medical. My show on NBC is still airing. We're

1030
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 3: almost done with this season, but we've got a little

1031
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: bit left. It's on Mondays at eight pm on NBC

1032
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: and the next day on Peacock Saint Dennis Medical. Everyone's

1033
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: favorite medical sitcom.

1034
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: That's The Pit.

1035
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, Sorry, that's a lament, fair hilarious. I can't

1036
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 3: watch the talk about Sam Raimid.

1037
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: I can't be. I can't watch. Like a miserable hospital

1038
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: show is tough for me to like realistic. I'm just saying.

1039
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: I will say. What I like about The Pit is

1040
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: that it is pretty neutral, like they're just like you

1041
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like there are so many hospital

1042
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: shows where they really are like.

1043
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: Pure like shock.

1044
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 3: Value, right, But on the Pit, they're like, man, something's

1045
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 3: wrong with this guy's eye? We're gonna have to lance it.

1046
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: And then they're like, we're gonna lance it now, we're

1047
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 3: gonna show you. And you're like, no way, they're gonna show.

1048
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: They do.

1049
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: They're gonna show you. You know it's coming, they tell

1050
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: you it's coming. It's no big deal. They do this

1051
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: every day, Bridgard.

1052
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: I can't deal with it. It's too much fair. No,

1053
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: I need a Saint Dennis where everyone where we're not

1054
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: saying too much.

1055
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: More, too much gore mostly.

1056
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, not as much tragedy. It's a whatever. But everybody

1057
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: go watch Saint Dennis Medical and do what you want

1058
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: with the pit. Look, God bless everyone on the pit.

1059
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: And I love a return to an episodic television.

1060
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: Yes it is very old school.

1061
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: We love it. But I can't be in a hospital

1062
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: like that. I'm gonna end up in one at some point.

1063
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: I'll come to our hospital, Dennis.

1064
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 2: All right, this is how we play Gift or a Curse.

1065
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to name three things. You'll tell me if

1066
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: they're a gift or a curse, and why. Then I'll

1067
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 2: tell if you're right or wrong. Because there are correct answers.

1068
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: You could walk away a winner or a loser, be careful,

1069
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 2: all right. These are all from our Patreon listeners today.

1070
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: This first one, this listener told me how to pronounce

1071
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: their name. It's Laura. Oh, it's la u r a.

1072
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: But with the world r some sort of Scandinavian situation,

1073
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: I think, which is interesting. But gift or a curse

1074
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: being invited to a dinner party in a group text

1075
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: and you ask what can we bring? And the host

1076
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: says nothing and you go up empty handed, but everyone

1077
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: else there has brought something gift?

1078
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: Why because I actually for someone on and I said

1079
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: no gifts podcast. I am not a gift giver. I

1080
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: really am not. Like, if I see something that's like

1081
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 3: perfect for someone, then I will get it, but I

1082
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 3: don't really I don't give gifts by default. And if

1083
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 3: you tell me to bring nothing, I'm going to take

1084
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: you at your word, and I'm going to assume you

1085
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: told everyone else the same thing and they did not obey.

1086
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: This is where the conceit of this podcast doesn't match

1087
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: up with my actual personality, because if you said no gifts,

1088
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: I would absolutely obey you. Likewise, I'd be like great,

1089
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: coming empty handed.

1090
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: It's an absolute right. I mean we are the same person. Yeah,

1091
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: you've told me. Yeah, I'm doing enough by just showing up.

1092
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome, and I really mean it. Do I

1093
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 3: need to bring anything, I'll stop, I'll get one over. Yes,

1094
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: But it's a it's a contract. You have to trust

1095
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: they're going to tell you if you.

1096
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: Should bring the absolutely, and when you say, I'm like,

1097
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: thank god.

1098
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes when you bring something like I don't know, like

1099
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 3: what if they have their wine picked out, what if

1100
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: they have a whole plan for the meal, what if

1101
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 3: they don't want your biscuits on the side, like whatever,

1102
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: you know. I do think we should trust people. I

1103
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: should trust them when they say no, thank you.

1104
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 2: Everyone should be honest with their Felix's be a good.

1105
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: Communicator and be a good communicator the end.

1106
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: Unlike the rest of these people pleasers that showed up

1107
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: with things, they're also desperate to be the wind.

1108
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: I would not feel bad, and I would I would

1109
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: feel smug. That's how I would.

1110
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm really I'm especially bad with wine. If I

1111
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: show up with wine, I know it's not going to

1112
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 2: be anyone's favorite, and then they're going to just be like, oh, thanks,

1113
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: and then it's.

1114
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: It goes into the cabinet for them to take somewhere.

1115
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: Else, somewhere else exactly, and it was probably brought to

1116
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: my house by someone else. Yeah, there's probably one bottle

1117
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: of wine that's probably hundreds of years old. It's just

1118
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 2: been passed around from party to part probably and it's

1119
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: probably very good right now. It's good.

1120
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: Now.

1121
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: Then, if I'm going somewhere where I don't know exactly,

1122
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: I will bring a bottle of wine. Oh, like if

1123
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: somebody there's no if I don't know the person to

1124
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: be like, you know, like if I was going to

1125
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: like a party with a friend or something, or I

1126
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: would I would be like, should we bring a bottle?

1127
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: One?

1128
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bring something.

1129
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: I just I want to do what is correct. I'm

1130
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 3: just going to assume that what is correct is what

1131
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: you've told me to do. If you've told me not

1132
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 3: to bring anything, I'm gonna believe you. And if there's

1133
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: no rule, i'll be sometimes I'll default to bring exactly exactly.

1134
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 2: Well, you got one right, so far, very good. Second,

1135
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: this is from a listener named Ruth Gift or a Curse,

1136
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 2: calling a lunch event a luncheon. Gift.

1137
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's elevate things right, luncheon. Yeah, I mean it does.

1138
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: I don't think it doesn't. It doesn't hurt anything. To

1139
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: call a lunch event a luncheon makes me feel like

1140
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 3: maybe we should be wearing like little white gloves. But again,

1141
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 3: put it on the invite up. That's true.

1142
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: Would wear gloves tell me.

1143
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: What's expected of me?

1144
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: If an invite said wear gloves, are probably not going

1145
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: to share what's happening. Should be there shadow what are

1146
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: we going to be doing?

1147
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: But I feel like it doesn't. The changing of a

1148
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: lunch event to the calling it a luncheon does not

1149
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 3: inherently to me signal that it's like extra fancy or anything.

1150
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: I just think it's like a fun different name. Right, Yeah,

1151
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm into it.

1152
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: It's correct, it's a gift. It's a gift.

1153
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 3: I love a lunch killing it.

1154
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm not getting invited to do enough lunch now.

1155
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: We should have more luncheon. Absolutely, we should just call

1156
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: lunch luncheon luncheon. Yes, you take your luncheon break, yeah, exactly.

1157
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: I feel like luncheon to me is like it's really

1158
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 2: laying out. This is going to be more than forty

1159
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: five minutes to an hour, This will be two to

1160
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: three hours. Yeah, it's going to be slightly classy or

1161
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: maybe there will be like a jar of lemonade or something.

1162
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: I hope, So I feel like, why not call it

1163
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: a lunch?

1164
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: I love this.

1165
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: It's a way better word.

1166
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: It's delightful, is what it is.

1167
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: Lunch is for slobs.

1168
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 3: Yes, and his ladies. Get your white gloves on.

1169
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: I'll be there. Okay, you've gone to rights so far.

1170
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: This is pretty impressive. And finally, this is from a

1171
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: listener named Ryan. Gift or a curse every streaming service

1172
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: having a documentary about the same subject.

1173
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: Oh, I know it's a curse, but I love it.

1174
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: I know it's a curse, but I treat it like

1175
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: a gift. Well, okay, if it's a subject I'm interested in.

1176
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 3: If it's something I'm not interested, I just won't watch either.

1177
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: But I watched the Firefest documentary. I watch both of

1178
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: them in a day. I wanted to know. I mean,

1179
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by like, you got that guy? Why did you?

1180
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: Just like Hulu Moore, did you pay him?

1181
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: More?

1182
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: Like, how did you get that guy? On this one

1183
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: and not on the other one? I love seeing like

1184
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 3: what holes they've left in the story. I don't know.

1185
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: I think it really pulls back the curtain. I'm like,

1186
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: you know, documentaries are not really altruistic. They're also just films. Yeah,

1187
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: someone's career, someone's career, you know, and so I don't know.

1188
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: I really like the comparing contrast of it.

1189
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: I think it's cool. Correct you want you?

1190
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: I'm so happy.

1191
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: Look, it's a huge pain and it's very much like

1192
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: collecting baseball cards at this point, yes, but I love it.

1193
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: You're getting every possible angle or possible angle. They are

1194
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 2: juicing these things, and so a lot of documentaries are

1195
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: bad at this point. So if you saw the bad one,

1196
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: you just hop over to another streaming service you might

1197
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: get a better version of it.

1198
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 3: What really helps is like if someone else has watched

1199
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 3: it first and they can tell you which one.

1200
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: To watch first. Oh, yeah, of course, and then you

1201
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: can if you like it, you can go into the other.

1202
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're like, watch this one first, and then it's

1203
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 3: just a companion piece or whatever. And sometimes I mean

1204
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: it does really does make you see like how produced.

1205
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like getting the people to act.

1206
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: There is one of the nexium nexium, which is still.

1207
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: Can we just be clear that's also a medicine Is

1208
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 2: that true. Is there a medicine called nexium?

1209
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 3: Uh, they probably spell it differently. Yeah, that's it is

1210
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 3: it's yeah, there is what's it for? I think it

1211
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 3: treats Harper. I was going to say it's yeah, something.

1212
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: Which came first, which did.

1213
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 3: Well the num is it nixium? Is that how they

1214
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: say it?

1215
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1216
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: I think so too. I saw anyway, I saw one

1217
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: of the after like the big HBO one. There was

1218
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: like another one, and I was like, this is deeply weird.

1219
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 3: It was just weird, like the way she was seeing

1220
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: she was reading off of q CAR. It wasn't like contemporary,

1221
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: like extamboraneous speaking at least, And I was like, this

1222
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: is so bizarre interesting, And so I was like, well,

1223
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: this is not I feel like this is not a

1224
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: trustworthy source. Like, whatever is.

1225
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: Happening here, someone has an agenda.

1226
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: Someone is Yeah, someone has an agenda. Didn't feel like

1227
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: a documentary.

1228
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: Was trying to get some drama going.

1229
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fascinating, but it was interesting. Nonetheless, it

1230
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 3: was interesting to see the difference.

1231
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love these things. I have I still have

1232
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 2: a ruby Frankie one left. Watch any of these? Yeah,

1233
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: I've heard the new one's really good.

1234
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: I have not watched that one.

1235
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: Have you seen the Hulu one? Yes, I mean it's

1236
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 2: one of the most crazy things I've ever seen, sane

1237
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: every ten seconds, it's more wild sane. Yeah.

1238
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 3: I have not watched the new one. Sorry, microphone, I

1239
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: have not watched the new one. I just started the

1240
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 3: Andrea Yates one.

1241
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: What Happened? Oh, that's that's so much.

1242
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: That's too dark for you.

1243
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: I know, I'm going to watch it.

1244
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 3: It's very dark because that was I mean, yeah, very

1245
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 3: very dark story. That's the woman who killed all of

1246
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: her children because she was having postpartum psychosis.

1247
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: Right, And it was with the van.

1248
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: Uh no, in the in the bathtub?

1249
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: Oh was the one with the van? That was didn't

1250
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: somebody drive a van into a lake or something?

1251
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: In Smith drove her sedan into But there was a

1252
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: people's family on vacation. You're right that there was a

1253
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: van that like, I don't know, listen.

1254
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 2: Oh, then there was there something wrong with Aunt Diana?

1255
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: Is something wrong with Aunt Diane? That is such a

1256
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: good story too. You're like, what is happened? Yeah, what happened?

1257
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: What happened? We know something's wrong.

1258
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 3: I have to believe that when we die true crime fans,

1259
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: we find out who killed Jomany, we find out what

1260
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 3: was going on with Antianne. We just like were flooded

1261
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 3: with information and we're like, it all makes so much sense.

1262
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 3: I just want to know.

1263
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: I just want to I just want an answer.

1264
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: I just want an answer.

1265
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: Just bizarre human behavior, unexplainable mysteries. I mean, the Ruby

1266
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: Frankie one. I feel like that it's pretty clear.

1267
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: What's her name, It's it's obvious what's going on here.

1268
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 3: There's nothing unexplained there. But some of these stories are

1269
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: I mean they really are, like, what what's going on?

1270
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: What happened with the brain?

1271
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 3: What happened?

1272
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe this other documentary will have something to say

1273
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: about it. I hope Did you know that that compound

1274
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: was on Zillow? No? No, I mean it's in a

1275
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: beautiful neighborhood. Yeah, one of the most beautiful neighborhoods in America.

1276
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 3: Do they have to disclose that, I guess, yeah.

1277
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: Like beautifully taken photos of a dungeon. Uh, it's maybe

1278
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: people want a sex room. Oh, you probably don't have

1279
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: to disclose, right, I wouldn't think so. Imagine sitting in

1280
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: your beautiful mansion in southern Utah. Watching a documentary and

1281
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, wait, this house looks familiar. Being on

1282
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 2: a tick, that's my dungeon, that's our.

1283
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: Sex room, that's our red room.

1284
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 2: A terrible Yeah, I don't know what. I feel like.

1285
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: We've talked about death disclosure with houses on this podcast before,

1286
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: and I think it's all like, it's not you don't

1287
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: have to disclose if someone died in a house.

1288
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: I think you do.

1289
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 2: You don't only in some states, I think, oh really yeah,

1290
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: in other states you can just simply sell the haunted

1291
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: house and move on.

1292
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 3: I think you have to in California, I think you

1293
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 3: have to.

1294
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: Think that's right. Yeah, I feel like there are a

1295
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 2: couple where I think you should.

1296
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't.

1297
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know that.

1298
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: I don't know that it I think that's added value.

1299
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 3: What was they watching where someone was like, I can't

1300
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 3: buy a house that's older than you know, oh that's small,

1301
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 3: more than seventy five years old or something is there

1302
00:56:58,840 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 3: like it's going to be haunted as shit.

1303
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: My house I think is over one hundred years old.

1304
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: Is it hunted? Oh yeah, yeah, no you don't think so.

1305
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: I haven't noticed the saying it's a rip I got

1306
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: ripped off. Why buy a house?

1307
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: That's that old point. Well maybe you just haven't done

1308
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: the right thing to make them angry yet.

1309
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Okay, I'm start experimenting. Yeah, I just need

1310
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: to unfinish some of their business or something, remind them

1311
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: we're happy. Yeah, well you got I mean you won

1312
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: the game. That's incredible, God bless all of us. There

1313
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: are very few winners on this podcast.

1314
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 3: Yes we're like minded. Yes, I think good for you,

1315
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: best friends.

1316
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: And now Ellis has one gift a curse they're going

1317
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: to do for us, and we both have to speak

1318
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: to it. And then I guess Ellis has the correct answer.

1319
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: We'll see.

1320
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: Gift a curse. We Sports, we spawn.

1321
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: Do you remember we Sports?

1322
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: I do?

1323
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: Do you want to do it?

1324
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: I will do it.

1325
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: I think they might be a curse, you guys. And

1326
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 3: this is said with the like Brecdian gift of remove

1327
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: with time. Because I had a wi and I played

1328
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: the Wei Sports, and I had a we fit, oh

1329
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: of course, which is the we fit is is and

1330
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: was a terrible tool, terrible.

1331
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: I got kind of the sequel to that called ring

1332
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: Fit Adventure. What is that saved me during the pandemic.

1333
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: Really it's like a ring you squeeze and do all

1334
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: sorts of stuff. It was incredible.

1335
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, home workouts have come a long way

1336
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: since since we Sports was a thing. I mean, and

1337
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: maybe there's still a thing I don't still have.

1338
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: And we Fitness. It was like a board you stood

1339
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: on or something.

1340
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 3: It was like a board that you stood on and

1341
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 3: it would weigh you, but it would also like test

1342
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 3: your balance and stuff.

1343
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1344
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: I just remember like my roommate and I at the

1345
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: time in Chicago both had accounts and I was on

1346
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 3: it one day and it was like, hey, Alison, it's

1347
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 3: been a while since Danielle's done this. Maybe you should

1348
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: talk to Maybe you should talk to her.

1349
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: And I was like, what the fuck's start drama in

1350
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: the house.

1351
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: It started starting.

1352
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 3: I had like her little icon was like looking sad,

1353
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: and I was like, what is happening confront your roommates

1354
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: starting your roommate?

1355
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on?

1356
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 3: So listen, I think, listen. We Sports is catching some

1357
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: strays from me because I like we Fit was maybe

1358
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 3: of the devil, but that's how I feel. That's how

1359
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 3: I feel.

1360
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: I had no idea. That's such a bad idea.

1361
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 3: It's so fucked up.

1362
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: They probably ruined families. Yeah, that probably led to a

1363
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: lot of divorce. Yeah, and maybe some of those divorces

1364
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: needed to have they have, you know, and it was

1365
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: just the final.

1366
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: Strong good work, Donna, Good for you, Good for you, Donna.

1367
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so you said curse, I said curse. I think gifts.

1368
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: I love the wee sports. I love the bowling, the golf,

1369
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: the tennis. I think tennis. People were throwing their remotes

1370
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: at their tvlevisions. It was getting seniors up at the

1371
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: senior home. We were all playing it for like three

1372
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: months and then we're longer thinking about it ever again. Yeah,

1373
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: of course, it's all kind of always. Whenever I hear

1374
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: the word we it goes back to that woman who

1375
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: drank off the water to win one and died, which

1376
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: was a tough situation. Oh my god, I remember this. Yeah,

1377
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: radio station was making people drink.

1378
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 3: She had like she got like water toxicity or some

1379
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: whatever they call it. I do remember this.

1380
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: I think we've come of little ways as a society.

1381
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 3: Was that she had to hold she had always called

1382
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: hold your wi for we right, so she had to

1383
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 3: drink a bunch of water and not pee.

1384
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: Avoid a biological function to win a piece of electronics. Wow,

1385
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: so that comes out.

1386
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: You know.

1387
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: The Wei was a complicated device. We all have complicated

1388
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: histories with the Wii. But ultimately I thought it was

1389
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: a lot of fun and we were doing the bowling

1390
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: that there was.

1391
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 3: A lot of bowling. I will say it was nice

1392
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 3: to have an event to do when everyone was together.

1393
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the kind of guitar hero, I loved guitar. I

1394
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: just in the last couple of years bought a new guitar. Hero.

1395
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: Did you really had the time of my life? And

1396
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: now it's back in my closet. But I had the

1397
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: time in my life. Yeah, the song selection was bad

1398
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: this time.

1399
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: I know.

1400
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: I really like just Dance too.

1401
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 2: I never did just dance.

1402
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: I thought was really fun.

1403
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: Did you actually have to know the moves? No, that

1404
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: you follow along with someone but didn't know you were

1405
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 2: doing the moves?

1406
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 3: If you held the we that you would hold the

1407
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 3: weeh and so then I could follow your hands ostensibly,

1408
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 3: Oh and be like wrong? Correct?

1409
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 2: Do you feel like it made you a better dancer? Yeah,

1410
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: you're the dancer you are today.

1411
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: I'm a professional. It made me the woman and the

1412
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: dancer I am today.

1413
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I said gift, she said curse.

1414
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, they're a gift.

1415
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: Come on, I mean, think about this is correct?

1416
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 4: Finally, did you on November nineteenth, two thousand and six,

1417
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 4: the playing field was leveled? You didn't have to be

1418
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 4: good at sports because it wasn't really sports. Everybody could

1419
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 4: come together pretend to play bowling. And you were saying Alison,

1420
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 4: like you're you're the flies off of your wrist hits

1421
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 4: Graham on the face. I mean like it really did

1422
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,959
Speaker 4: create some excitement and bring us all together as friends

1423
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 4: and families.

1424
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yes, we barely knew her.

1425
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, well I won. Good for me, good for you.

1426
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: All Right, we should answer a listener question people are

1427
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: writing into I said, no gifts at gmail dot com.

1428
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: Will you help me answer a question? Yes, okay, let

1429
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: me open the correct document here. Oh this is rude,

1430
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: says Hybridge and potentially useful guest. How dare you you

1431
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 2: can answer this however you want.

1432
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna answer it with fury.

1433
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: Screamed, he's gonna ruin the audio. Okay, says I'm trying

1434
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: to find a birthday present for my partner whose birthday

1435
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: is in late January. Well, I guess next January. He's

1436
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: a difficult person to shop for because he just buys

1437
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: himself everything he wants. For example, he bought a once

1438
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: bought a soda stream, and then bought a new one

1439
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: only weeks after, in a different color to better match

1440
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 2: his kitchen. The first one still works perfectly fine. I

1441
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: feel like I spend all year molling over gifts to

1442
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: give him, just to have Christmas and his birthday roll

1443
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: around all at once. It's a nightmare. This person's life

1444
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: is hell. A little about him. His hobbies are embroidery, camping, djying, yoga, skateboarding,

1445
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: true crime, cooking, and making frozen margaritas. And yes, he

1446
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: has a frozen marg machine. Mark mark machine. He has

1447
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: a frozen mark machine. Now I'm madam, I'm gonna start screaming.

1448
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: The man owns everything. The best idea I have so

1449
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: far is just something a universally crowd pleasing, like comfy pajamas,

1450
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: but it just doesn't feel personal enough. As a benchmark.

1451
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: For Christmas, I got him a pair of vintage Raptors

1452
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 2: basketball shorts. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Cheers Carolyn. Okay, Carolyn,

1453
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: so the boyfriend has bought everything.

1454
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hard when you have someone who can and.

1455
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: Does buy themselves, right, they want another.

1456
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 3: Adult, another adult, specially buying presents for your parents. I'm

1457
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: always like, I don't know they've got what they want

1458
01:03:58,760 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 3: to eat.

1459
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: I gave up a long time.

1460
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't.

1461
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really unless I get unless I'm.

1462
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: Like, oh right, Dad would love this.

1463
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yes, I mean I I think it's interesting.

1464
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 3: Like everything that Carolyn Caroline listed is like a physical thing,

1465
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 3: but there's also you know, coupon, like you can buy

1466
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 3: them a massage, you can get them you know, membership

1467
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: at a woodworking shop where they can go in and

1468
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 3: like learn how to build things or whatever.

1469
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 2: Play a psychological game.

1470
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, okay, we're listen, we're spitballing, We're we're riffing here.

1471
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 3: There's no bad ideas, no bad idea. I mean, I

1472
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 3: guess when I get into a situation situation like that,

1473
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 3: I try to think, like, what's something that this person

1474
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't buy it for themselves, And a lot of times

1475
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, you have to take a pause and

1476
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 3: go do this or I'm giving you, you know, airline miles,

1477
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 3: go visit your best friend in Boston, whatever, you know

1478
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1479
01:04:54,800 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 5: That's okay again, no bad ideas, there's a good keep Okay,

1480
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 5: let's keep going here. Surgery sometimes yeah, yeah, but it's

1481
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 5: hard to because you don't like you can't be like, I'm.

1482
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: Going to get you some botox, because like do a

1483
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: need both you well you.

1484
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: Get you get them to that by you know, kind

1485
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 2: of lightly insulting them through the year, start now for

1486
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 2: next chane and there's self confidence to a place where

1487
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: they're going to be so thrilled for this new search.

1488
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: God, I do need a procedure.

1489
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he's Carolyn Is saying he's bought himself too

1490
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 2: so to streams. He obviously loves that device. Why not

1491
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 2: a third matches, bathroom matches, car people office, Yeah, stream

1492
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: in the car? Can you imagine? Is this a thing

1493
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 2: that feels like one something you could have in the trunk?

1494
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 3: What's your business idea?

1495
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: My god?

1496
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 3: Trunk stream, trunk stream, I love it.

1497
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 2: God, the amount of money I should be making on

1498
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 2: off my ideas. I could leave this podcast forever.

1499
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,919
Speaker 3: Sneak it into the contracts. It's they're legally binding.

1500
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. It's going to take all these ideas

1501
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: and go to shark tank and I'm going to be

1502
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: continuing to struggle. And I'm struggling here. No one stealed

1503
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: trunk stream.

1504
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, a stream. I don't own a soda stream.

1505
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: I don't either.

1506
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 3: I've seen them the other day because I got some

1507
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 3: topo chicos and like these beautiful glass bottles and I

1508
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: was like, wait, am I the villain? Should I'm not?

1509
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: Boy?

1510
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: I love it so more waste And I was like, oh,

1511
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 3: is this why people own soda streams?

1512
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 2: So they are more waste? Are they?

1513
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 3: Because I don't genuinely don't know. I mean, there's like

1514
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: a pod in them or look so.

1515
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: To stream reach out. But what I'm thinking is this

1516
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: is something different, and yeah, I'll wear the T shirts,

1517
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 2: I'll drive the car. You can wrap my car. I

1518
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: feel like there a lot of these are being given

1519
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 2: as gifts at like weddings, to people who don't want them.

1520
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: Then it's a piece of plastic. Yeah, And then I'm imagining, however,

1521
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: it's sold as probably in another piece of plastic.

1522
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: People swear by them, but I don't. I mean I

1523
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 3: don't know.

1524
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: Who swears by a soda.

1525
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 3: Stream people from two thy seventeen.

1526
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean I might. Maybe I should try we should

1527
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: try it. I think I do prefer like a soda

1528
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 2: out of a fountain to a can. So I wonder

1529
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 2: if this would be more of bad experience.

1530
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, more bubbles, more bubbles, extra bubbles.

1531
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Speaker 2: More bubbles. Yeah. But I also love a topachico. I

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Speaker 2: love the bottle. They've killed it with that bottle.

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Speaker 3: They've killed it with that bottle. It reminds me of Texas.

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Speaker 2: I love them. I was told by my boyfriend yesterday

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Speaker 2: that it is and this could may or may not

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01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 2: be true, elice if you want to fact check this.

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01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: He told me it's the water with the most I

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Speaker 2: think forever chemicals in it.

1539
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's what they're called, which sounds.

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01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: Actually very romantic to me. Forever chemicals.

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 3: It's very kay, jewelry, forever chemicals. This Christmas love them

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Speaker 3: enough to give them forever chemicals.

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01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 2: That may or may not be true. I should say

1544
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: that for legal reasons. Everyone do your own well, don't

1545
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 2: do now. I don't want to say do your own research,

1546
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: because that now it's in the wind.

1547
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 3: Ask your doctor, you need to learn hypnosis for the show,

1548
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 3: so you can just sa people forget the thing that

1549
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 3: you just accidentally.

1550
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 2: That's that's a wild yeah, that could lead to me

1551
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 2: having more power. Why, Well, we answered the question perfectly, Carolyn,

1552
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: Never write back in I've got my book. I'm so thrilled.

1553
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: I've got to the end of a trilogy. So I

1554
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: have to go back in order to figure out why

1555
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: I can build your collection, Why this rich world is

1556
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 2: as it is? You know this is the what's the

1557
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 2: final one? And Lord of the Rings? The Return of

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01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 2: the King.

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01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 3: This is my return, the Return of the King. You're

1560
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 3: working back.

1561
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: I've had such a lovely time with you.

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01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: Me to thank you for having me.

1563
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, and listener, the podcast is it over? We're

1564
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 2: going to go for another hour. No, I'm kidding. What

1565
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: if that happened. I'm kidding. No, but someday I'm gonna

1566
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: do that and the guest is going.

1567
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 3: To die quietly sneak out. You hear me fumbling for

1568
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 3: the door.

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01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 2: No, listen to the podcast is over. I'm sorry to

1570
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: break it to you, and I'm sorry that I surprised

1571
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 2: you with that little thinking of we're gonna go for

1572
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 2: another hour. That's your fault for believing anything. I say,

1573
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: move on with your day, I love you, goodbye, I said,

1574
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer

1575
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: is Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by

1576
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 2: Ben Holliday. The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann,

1577
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 2: and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner.

1578
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said

1579
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: no Gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of

1580
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want

1581
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 2: to see the gifts? Gay?

1582
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: Did you hear thought? I made myself perfectly clear. When

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01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: you're I guess to my home, you gotta come to

1584
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: me empty. And I said, no, guess, you're a presences

1585
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: presents enough I already had too much stuff, So how

1586
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: do you dare to surbey me