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Speaker 1: At least, is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly here

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Speaker 2: with Matt Williamson. It is schedule release day. We have

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Speaker 2: the Steelers schedule yet, but we're not going to talk

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Speaker 2: about any speculation that has been thrown up. Sure, the

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Speaker 2: only thing we do know is that they're going to

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Speaker 2: play in Ireland in week four.

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Speaker 3: We do know that. You do know that Vikings as Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: we know the opponent. Yeah, we know the opponents. We

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Speaker 3: do know that. The other stuff, but today tonight will

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Speaker 3: be exciting. Uh check us out. We're gonna be doing

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Speaker 3: a show with Mike Pursuita at eight o'clock this evening.

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Speaker 3: At that point we will know that we will know

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Speaker 3: boom and it'll hit and you can just cast on

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Speaker 3: the SNR. Definitely, Okay. Jost does not know the answer

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Speaker 3: whether that will be simulcast. We will have it on

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Speaker 3: the flagship. I would imagine there's they might simulcast that.

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Speaker 3: I would think so, I would think so, right, So

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Speaker 3: you'll be able to hear that as everything will get

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Speaker 3: our break reaction. Yeah, yeah, I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: What we do know is who the opponents are. So

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Speaker 2: the home games, they get the Ravens, they get the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: they get the Browns, yes, the Bills, the Packers, the Colts,

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins, the Vikings and Seahawks. On the road, they

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Speaker 2: got the Ravens, the Bengals, and the Browns, Chicago, Detroit,

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles, Chargers, New England and the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so a couple of things would you want. I'm

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Speaker 3: thinking about weather off the bat Miami. I think you'd

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Speaker 3: love for them to come here as late as possible.

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Speaker 2: Yes, some sometime later in the season, you'll want to

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you ever go in there, you don't

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Speaker 3: want to go there in September. They're winning percent in September,

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Speaker 3: except they're here. I know, I know. But so I

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Speaker 2: It from that respect, the games that I want to

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Speaker 2: play early on my schedule, I want New England early.

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Speaker 3: See. I was going to phrase it like this, like Chicago,

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Speaker 3: New England, Cleveland. They could be like the nastiest city.

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Speaker 2: And let's look at this from a new coach, new

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Speaker 2: quarterback perspective as well, I want I want the Jets early.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, Yeah, I want the Patriots early.

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Speaker 3: New head coach. Yea, yeah, Rookie is head quarterback though

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Speaker 3: that one doesn't as much.

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Speaker 2: New offensive coordinator and true, So it's it's it's you know,

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Speaker 2: they're they're still learning. There doesn't matter when you play

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Speaker 2: the Lions because they're indoors, but they have new coordinators.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would, they could have some upheaval.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't love playing Chicago later in the year. Out there.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about weather. Yeah, see, that's what I was

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Speaker 3: going to say real quick, is at Browns at Patriots

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Speaker 3: at Bears, weather is always an issue in those times. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you would you rather play them in garbage weather or

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Speaker 2: Well, you're a better team than Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I think you're a better team than Patriots in Browns

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Speaker 3: and that levels the player.

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Speaker 2: That levels the playing right right right, Bears versus Steelers

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Speaker 2: is arguable, and we're looking ahead obviously, but again they're

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Speaker 2: a new head coach.

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Speaker 3: New head coach. Well, I'm playing them early.

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Speaker 2: Right in terms of the teams that you've got coming here,

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter again when you play the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: which there'll be a lot of Steeler fans and a

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Speaker 2: Brown's games here really don't matter all that much in

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Speaker 2: terms of that. Yeah, Bills, they're not going to be

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins most certainly would be. Yes Vikings we know

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Speaker 3: I would mind playing them early, Yeah, you know, but man,

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Speaker 2: It just always seems like they do.

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Speaker 2: If I've ever been to Cleveland when the weather's been nice.

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Speaker 2: Even in we've gone there in September. I remember, I'll

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Speaker 3: As you would know justin was the wind is.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't believe how windy it is here.

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Speaker 2: It's a nice it's it was. It was eighty degrees,

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Speaker 3: That was all the time at Akron. Our parking lot

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Speaker 3: especially when it got cold and he's over shaking his head.

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Speaker 3: He was a student there. It was brutal. Cleveland wasn't

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Speaker 3: you'd like to play the Bengals early. There's a notorious

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Speaker 2: And we'll see what happens with Trey Hendrickson there. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's Bengals Brown Steelers game in Ravens games.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's been there, done it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't really matter. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: hate to play them all in one bunch like he

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Speaker 3: Right, But there's not new coaches, and I mean everybody

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Speaker 3: knows each other, right, I'm not sure they matter all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that wonders is this division, it has

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Speaker 2: to be the one that has the longest tenured head coaches.

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Speaker 2: It has to be because Tom is number one, was

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Speaker 3: It has to be by far. Yeah, I mean, especially

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Speaker 3: if you add it. If you do it that way,

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Speaker 3: like Tomlin's years plus Harbaugh's years.

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Speaker 2: That blows everybody else. But then the other two guys

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Speaker 3: Long, right, Right, It's been a long time since there's

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Speaker 3: been a coaching change. Yeah, and I bet every other

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be the most stable vision. I

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Speaker 2: think that's one hundred percent true, and so you know

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Speaker 3: Some of the quarterbacks have changed and things like that,

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Speaker 3: and coordinators, but you definitely know the makeup of the opponent.

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Speaker 2: You know the tendencies you know, yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Know the stadium you're playing game, you know the weather

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Speaker 3: or you know all that kind of stuff. No surprises, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: And the fans know how to get there and travel

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Speaker 2: But I look at that schedule. You know, where do

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Speaker 3: At worst?

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Speaker 2: Three and three?

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I mean they've said it at

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Speaker 3: like three and a half. Yeah, three, I think is

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't take three right now. If you told me

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Speaker 2: But then you look at some of their other their

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Speaker 2: Bills here, that's a lot better than going there. You

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Speaker 2: get the Packers here. Yeah, the Colts here is different

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Speaker 3: Is when not when I go to Miami in September?

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Speaker 2: Right, the Vikings is a home game, that's real, but

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Speaker 2: it's a non and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's gonna be a lot of around that game.

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Speaker 3: Of course. We talked about that a lot yesterday.

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Speaker 2: And you get the Seahawks here.

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Speaker 3: Seattle's their record doesn't reflect it, but they I always

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Speaker 3: think of that as a tough place to play. They

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Speaker 3: have not been awesome at home the last years long

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Speaker 3: road trip. The sound is really an issue there too,

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Speaker 3: passion fans. Often there's rain and weather in that area

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Speaker 3: a different type. I think that's a tough place to play.

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Speaker 2: And really, if you look at your road games, playing

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Speaker 2: think they're good football. I don't think they're good football there. Right,

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Speaker 2: Chargers don't have a home field advantage.

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Speaker 3: No, you're gonna have a home field advantage there.

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Speaker 2: Detroit will be rocking.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how many people are gonna make reservations to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna They're gonna schedule that one.

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Speaker 3: Would you say that one after that one? That's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be brutal? Yeah, Chicago, who knows? Who knows?

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Speaker 3: I mean that fan base has not had a quarterback

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Speaker 2: But certainly those road games. I would rather play that

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Speaker 2: slate of road games as opposed to playing at Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: at Green Bay, at Indianapolis, at Miami, at Seattle.

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Speaker 3: I think Indianapolis is a good point. It's much different

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Speaker 3: It's not like they can't handle outdoors. But that dome

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Speaker 2: So all in all, I mean the schedules not and

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Speaker 2: we'll find out that tonight what you know, where these games,

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Speaker 2: when they'll be played, When, when.

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Speaker 3: The short weeks are and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think it's necessarily I know that the

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Speaker 2: numbers say it's a it's a tough schedule.

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Speaker 3: They say it's twenty fourth easiest, which is what eighth

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Speaker 2: But looking at this slate of teams as compared to

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Speaker 2: night and day, even the year before that night and day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see the chiefs, you know, right, I

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Speaker 3: thing is you're always going to play the division Ravens

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Speaker 3: twice is tough, right, I mean they're they're Ravens Bengals.

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Speaker 3: There's a tough game game. But traditionally the Stealers have

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Speaker 3: at least split those games, right right. I mean they're

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Speaker 3: year after year. I mean, it just doesn't happen that way. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think that's there's three or four wins

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have the best division record since two

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you just don't want to be that team.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what's amazing, And I think it's one of

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Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 1: Least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: Feel the need oh yeah, the need for more cow bell?

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Speaker 3: No, I thought you would say the need for speed,

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Speaker 3: although we have a top gun teg bell coming. That

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williams and I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive. You're on the Steelers Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: and I'm at Dan Graziano on ESPN's put together ten

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Speaker 2: lingering off season questions. Okay for teams. I thought we

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Speaker 3: Right, but everyone thinks that they're the only team that

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Speaker 2: Why didn't the Falcons move on from Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: I still think that's in the mix. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, they allowed the ten million dollars

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Speaker 3: Was twenty all that money now? Yeah? Right? So let's

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Speaker 3: I thought he might get dealt before that option day

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Speaker 2: We're not going to trade him to the Saints.

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Speaker 2: They drafted to guys, they're not going to four.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to do those unless you have.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing that the Rogers situation has delayed

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00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 2: it all at this point.

438
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean he's going to

439
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 3: make money.

440
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to make He's going to count

441
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 2: for something, right, right, right, don't know what it's going

442
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 2: to be. Initially everybody it's going to be forty million.

443
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 2: I knew it wasn't going to be forty million, but

444
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 2: he threw out the ten million dollar number.

445
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 3: But it's more than that.

446
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 2: It's probably somewhere in between.

447
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 3: That league minimum. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's.

448
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 2: Probably closer to twenty we're in that range.

449
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 3: Back to Cousins though, Like if you were the Vikings,

450
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 3: would you consider it as insurance like that. There's a

451
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 3: dynamic in the quarterback room too, like not a cousin

452
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 3: seems like a great guy, but he's looming over Pennock's shoulder, right,

453
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 3: you know, like we want you to be the guy in.

454
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 2: The They told him not to even come to their OTAs.

455
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 3: Or I think so too, Like I don't know if

456
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 3: he'll ever take a snap for the foul.

457
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, just stay away, don't get hurt, and.

458
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 3: Or maybe they're playing on cuttingham. I don't think see that.

459
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but to your point about the dynamics, that's why

460
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 2: Joe Milton's not a patriot anymore.

461
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't realize that part.

462
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 2: The people that wanted Joe Milton here. Apparently Joe Milton

463
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 2: doesn't play well with others.

464
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 3: And Dallas doesn't seem to mind who they are.

465
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, intent, but I mean everything I got this is

466
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: you know, this is the Cowboys. This is coming from

467
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 2: Greg Bdard and Land, who I trust immensely with with

468
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 2: the super tight end back up. You know, he's been

469
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 2: on our show before. I'm friends with the guy. Talk

470
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 2: to him and he said, yeah, he wanted he thought

471
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 2: he should be the starter over Drake may Well.

472
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 3: That causes a wave, that causes waves in that you

473
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 3: gotta go right right right, and Dallas will take those

474
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 3: type of guys. Know what I'm saying. Uh, the next question,

475
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 3: situation is going to work. He's going to play somewhere.

476
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 2: Why didn't the Cowboys do more running back?

477
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 3: You know and buddies of Marcus Mosher I did to

478
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 3: show them today it didn't come up. But he thinks

479
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 3: they are still in the trade market. He's grown up.

480
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 3: Breese Hall's name. He doesn't think they're done.

481
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: They did. I mean they have brought in Javonte Williams

482
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: and Miles sand right.

483
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,959
Speaker 3: It's not Bear yeah, and it is okay, you know right?

484
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 3: I mean I think Blues sort of intriguing.

485
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 2: And Mafa's a you know again, he may hit, he might.

486
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 3: You can still get child, but you can still get Dobbins.

487
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: I think they just said I'd rather invest in a line.

488
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,719
Speaker 2: Why didn't the Bengals extend Trey Hendrickson. That's a big question.

489
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 3: I think I know why because they extended Higgins and

490
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 3: Chase and have all this money in Burrow. But we

491
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 3: broke this down a lot yesterday. That's getting hairy. And

492
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: one aspect I meant to bring up yesterday that I

493
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: think is really important in this mix is you just

494
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: invested in Shamar Stewart in the first round, right.

495
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: You spent a first round draft pick on Miles Murphy

496
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 2: two years ago?

497
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 3: Yes? Now, wouldn't you much rather have Cam Hayward around

498
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 3: to teach harmon the ways of the league than being

499
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: mad sitting out, especially with Stuart's rawness. Like Stuart's sitting out,

500
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 3: I guess he is too, but he won't he won't,

501
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 3: you know, start practicing it some time.

502
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm with you.

503
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: I want one of the best pass rushers in the

504
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: league to be in the room with my first round pick.

505
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 3: So they learned from him.

506
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't do things that way, and so no,

507
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: they don't. Uh, why didn't the Bills add a star

508
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: receiver because.

509
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: The offense is good enough? Yeah, I mean it is.

510
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: I know that that's that would be lovely.

511
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 2: When you have so you could say that that's the

512
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 2: same thing about the Chiefs. Why the Chiefs had a

513
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: star receiver. You got a great quarterback. Your great quarterback

514
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 2: is supposed to be surprised to elevate those guys average

515
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: receivers and make average receivers good receivers.

516
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 3: And make good receivers. Yeah, and who was available. That's

517
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: why the Steelers invested in Metcalf when they did. It

518
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: was not a great year to do that. It was

519
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 3: not It was not Harrison Neighbors or Doonsay McConkey, Brian

520
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 3: Thomas in the draft either.

521
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: Now they could have they could have traded for DK Metcalf.

522
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 3: They could have, and maybe they called, you know, but

523
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: I think the Bills clearly had told you what they're

524
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: They're saying situation is is our defense is what's almost back? Yeah,

525
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 3: and they drafted accordingly.

526
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: Why didn't the Lions bring in a big time edge

527
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: rusher to pair with Aiden Hutchinson.

528
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: That surprised me a little bit, Like we both loved,

529
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: really liked the Ohio State knows Tyler Williams that they picked,

530
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 3: and he is a physical, knee biting type of dude

531
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 3: and a reader. Seems like he's kind of held together

532
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 3: with duct tape right now. So I understood it. But

533
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 3: I thought that might be an edge rusher. I mean,

534
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 3: I thought that was the opportunity.

535
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: They may look at that as something, Hey, we're going

536
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 2: to be good enough and then we'll do something at

537
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: the trade deadline.

538
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: Again, it certainly could and maybe they were. Maybe they're

539
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 3: on the phone Cincinnati as we speak, or man if

540
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,239
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett really wanted out, we were going to put

541
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 3: an offer in.

542
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 2: There'll be edge rushers that come free.

543
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: That is a position you can find too. You could

544
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: sign Clowney and get by here now.

545
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: To a thirty something year old guy that all of

546
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 2: a sudden is available at the.

547
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: There's always mercenaries there. Clowney is the perfect example. But

548
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: I thought the Bills and Lions might be the most

549
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: likely Miles Garrett type of team.

550
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: Why didn't the Rams try to address their future at quarterback?

551
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: Well maybe they thought about this like the Steelers did

552
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: and just said, you know what, I don't love this class.

553
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Just because the Steelers didn't draft a quarterback high

554
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that they haven't have a plan for it,

555
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 3: as we always talk about. Right, the Rams are two

556
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: first round pick next year. Yeah, that's time to do it.

557
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 3: When now just gave Stafford money get a guy next year?

558
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: Why didn't the Bears add a big name running back?

559
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 3: That one shocked me. Yeah, not even a big name

560
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: running back, but a fourth round Yeah?

561
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: Run another running back?

562
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean touton or you know that shocked me.

563
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 3: I don't have a great answer for that.

564
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: Counting on you know the DeAndre Swifts of the world.

565
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's Roshawn Johnson and Swift and Ben Johnson

566
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: didn't get along with Swift when they were in Detroit.

567
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know he wants to run the football.

568
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. I wonder if it's another shoot up

569
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 3: there too.

570
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: Maybe. Why didn't the Dolphins do more to address the

571
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: cornerback position?

572
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: Because they don't pay money and they're gonna trade their

573
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 3: best corner probably. I mean they have a fortune tied

574
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: up into a hill and Ramsey they took.

575
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: They're in a mess, right, they took a fifth round cornerback.

576
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be bad. Yeah, I think they're They

577
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 3: only made a couple. They made two picks in the

578
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 3: first four round.

579
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna eat their vegetables this year. Oh yeah, what

580
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: didn't Detection? Why didn't Detections make bigger improvements to their

581
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: offensive line? They did stuff, they moved, they moved the

582
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: chairs around that they got better.

583
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: I don't think they got better on paper. Mason being gone,

584
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: although non they picked them up, Tunsil gone. I mean

585
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 3: they were your probably best two.

586
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: Guys, although Tons was very highly penalized. Yeah, the most

587
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: penalized player.

588
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 3: In the league. Both of them didn't have good years.

589
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: I don't think the protection schemes were sound. I think

590
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: there was a lot of problems there, but I thought

591
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 3: they'd go a little heavier. Do you really need four receivers,

592
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: you know, like instead of Higgins and Knowl, maybe one

593
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: of those should have been a guard.

594
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: And the final question on here is why didn't the

595
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: Steelers take quarterback more seriously. Well, they take it seriously.

596
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 3: They're not just saying we just hope someone falls out

597
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: of the sky.

598
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: They just didn't love this all along. They said, hey,

599
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 2: we're going to address the quarterback position with a potential

600
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: long term answer this year or next year.

601
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

602
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well this year the opportunity didn't really present itself.

603
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: No, I mean, this is hindsight, But would listeners and

604
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 3: the national media be happier if they took you door

605
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: Sanders at twenty one wouldn't look so great? I wouldn't.

606
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: I sure wouldn't. No, you know, right now, we didn't

607
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: know he's going to fall the fifth, but we had

608
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: to have some clue that. I mean, looking back on it, yeah,

609
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 3: they weren't interested.

610
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: And they have a strong belief that Aaron Rodgers is going.

611
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: To yeah yeah, and again there's a Cousins fallback plan

612
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: if need be, they that option.

613
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: I don't this idea that the Steelers don't know what's

614
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: going on with Aaron Rodgers is so baffling. I don't

615
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: believe that at all.

616
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: I don't believe that at all.

617
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: I think they've they've been in constant contact with him,

618
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: and he obviously must be telling them that he is

619
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: leaning towards playing. Yeah, Yeah, and he's going to sign

620
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: at some point.

621
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 3: Action speak loud. And they haven't made huge actions.

622
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: As you always say, teams. Teams show you what they're

623
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: what they're thinking by the moves that they make or

624
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: the moves that they don't make.

625
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the moves that they've made. Are they have

626
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: a strong number two quarterback and a prospect as a three. Yeah,

627
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: there's a spot there for the guy who is going

628
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: to be the starter. I think they get that part.

629
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they'll draft a young quarterback next year.

630
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: And maybe your point, then a receiver falls in place

631
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: after you get the quarterback there.

632
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: Too, you know, once you know how how much they're

633
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: spending on the quarterback and that kind of stuff. Hey,

634
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: maybe they got a side deal with a Marii Cooper

635
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 2: right now. I came out, Yeah, as soon as as

636
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: soon as Aaron signs, we're gonna sign you.

637
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

638
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: I'm just just throwing out against the wall. That's not

639
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: a hot rumor or anything like that.

640
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: Sure, And there's also a lot of veterans in the

641
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: league that's a lot easier to talk to them after

642
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: June first, which isn't that far away.

643
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so those are the questions from Dan Graziani and

644
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: uh Graziano and.

645
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: Their quality ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

646
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: Mean those are all legitimate questions.

647
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: There's big stuff still looming around the league. Yeah, you

648
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: know you could look.

649
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: At that and say, why didn't the Browns do Mortar

650
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: address their quarterback situation?

651
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: Right? That's a great question. And if you're going to

652
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: address it next year, why would you draft you guys

653
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: this year? Yeah?

654
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: Third and a fifth round draft pick? Why did you

655
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: use two picks on quarterback if you.

656
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Speaker 3: Think you're going to an additional pick on pick it? Yeah? Yeah,

657
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Speaker 3: they have done stuff. I don't understand why they've done

658
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Speaker 3: it now, LOGI buying it? And how are you going

659
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: to divvy up the That bothers me a no end too.

660
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Speaker 3: How do you divvy up the workload, the snaps, the

661
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: practice time between those four. That's a tough part. Laco

662
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: needs the least. He's your opening, you'd like him to

663
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Speaker 3: play the other you got two rookies you're trying to

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Speaker 3: groom and that's not picket in a lolocon.

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Speaker 2: Well, and the other problem becomes, you're not going to

666
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Speaker 2: keep four.

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Speaker 3: I think they have to almost do they get a

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Speaker 3: cut picket that they're traded for, they cut Leonard or Gabriel.

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Speaker 2: They might try to sneak him onto the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, I don't know. I mean, they give it something

672
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Speaker 3: decent for picket. It was like a fifth in a player.

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Speaker 3: Well Skyler, not that he's or not Skyler dtr not

674
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Speaker 3: that he's great, But I bet they keep four and

675
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Speaker 3: just kind of eat it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why didn't

676
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Speaker 3: watch them?

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Speaker 2: Why didn't the Bengals do more to address their defensive

678
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: problems in the draft?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Well here, I mean we've talked about that a lot,

681
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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 3: But they're they only had what six picks, and two

683
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Speaker 3: were on guards restaurant defense. Well, they had a running

684
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Speaker 3: back to in the at last round. They could certainly

685
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Speaker 3: use more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, But let's get to another break. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening the

688
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Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll

689
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Speaker 2: be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt on his podcast Not Just Football

695
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Speaker 2: with Cam Hayward. Hayward was asked about the pickings trade.

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Speaker 3: Oh was he okay?

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Speaker 2: And he said, was I surprised? Yeah, but you know

698
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Speaker 2: the game is the game, and I know it benefits

699
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: both teams. We get another third round pick, they get

700
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Speaker 2: a wide receiver to go go along with Ceedee Lamb.

701
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Speaker 2: Would I have liked to see George and DK play together. Yeah,

702
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Speaker 2: but hopefully there's something in the works that sounds awfully.

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Speaker 3: Familiar, that sounds kind of like the way we've interpreted it. Yeah,

704
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Speaker 3: it's a little surprising, but I'm not blown away by

705
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Speaker 3: it when I read it for the first time, and

706
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Speaker 3: you are getting something in return. You didn't give them

707
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Speaker 3: away for nothing or cut them. And maybe there's something in.

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Speaker 2: The works, and I think the idea, but.

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Speaker 3: They consult Cam on it, you know, we we'll get

710
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Speaker 3: you what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Or they don't consult any of their players, right understand,

712
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Speaker 2: somebody the the somebody put out the idea that they

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Speaker 2: consulted Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: I heard that. I kind of chuckled to myself about.

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Speaker 2: The trade, and I'm like, why would they consult a

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Speaker 2: guy who's not even under contract with him when they

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Speaker 2: wouldn't even consult Cam Heyward about something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, that's not how this works. No, that's

719
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Speaker 3: not how that works. You don't need his permission or

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Speaker 3: you know, right.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what do you think of this?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: How about we trade this guy you've never met before.

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Speaker 3: We've never met before. Yeah, Now, if by chance Allen

725
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Speaker 3: Wizard ended up here, I would think Rogers might have

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Speaker 3: something to do with it. Kind of like people that

727
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Speaker 3: have been familiar with each other, you want them to

728
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Speaker 3: play together, you know, right, you know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He also said he said he was asked, he said,

732
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Speaker 2: I think you have to look at the players. We

733
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Speaker 2: do have a round. You've got Calvin Austin. I think

734
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Speaker 2: he's going to take a step forward. I think the

735
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Speaker 2: ball should be going through tight tight end or through

736
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Speaker 2: Pat Fararmouth a little bit more. Yeah, I agree, And

737
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Speaker 2: then you're also looking for a guy like Roman Wilson

738
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Speaker 2: to take a big step. So it's not like we

739
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Speaker 2: don't have and it's not like we don't have a

740
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Speaker 2: number one receiver in DK I get all that. I

741
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Speaker 2: do think Pat Farreermouth can be a bigger part of

742
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Speaker 2: the offense.

743
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Speaker 3: That's bothered me over the last couple of years a

744
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Speaker 3: little bit. I mean, he has a huge game against

745
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Speaker 3: the Bengals, and then I mean I think he needs

746
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Speaker 3: to be featured and schemed up more. I'm not saying

747
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: he's Kelsey. I think he's a real good player. I

748
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: don't think he's a special player. But you're looking for

749
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Speaker 3: receivers over the last couple of years, and he brings

750
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Speaker 3: a lot to the table. Yeah, I would like to

751
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: see more attempts throwing his way.

752
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Speaker 2: And finally, he said that this is a PSA for

753
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Speaker 2: all Steeler fans. Don't panic, stay patient, We've got We'll

754
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: get to work. I think sometimes we can jump off

755
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: the ship and think the ship is sinking. We've got

756
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Speaker 2: work to do. And you know, whoever won the Super

757
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: whoever won the off season, isn't going to win the

758
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Speaker 2: regular season. It's not going to win the Super Bowl. Yeah,

759
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: simply winning the off season means nothing, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, whether they consult Heyward on anything or not, Well,

761
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Speaker 3: they do consult on things. I mean they have conversations. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: him and Tomlin are colleagues, friends, et cetera. I have

763
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Speaker 3: a feeling Cam has a feeling about Rogers. Yeah, you know,

764
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Speaker 3: these guys have been in a league together a long time.

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Speaker 3: I bet he has a hun show the quarterbacks going

766
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Speaker 3: to be Yeah, and he also knows the Steelers organization

767
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Speaker 3: well enough that they're not going to make drastic you know,

768
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Speaker 3: just don't do it. There's a long plan here and

769
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Speaker 3: it's in place.

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Speaker 2: You know, you might not agree with the plan.

771
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Speaker 3: No, no, and you're ever right. I get it, I.

772
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Speaker 2: Get it, but there is always a plan in place.

773
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Speaker 2: They don't just do things just to do it right.

774
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Speaker 2: All right, there's a reason they have all these picks

775
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Speaker 2: going forward. That's not accident. I mean, the things will happen, folks. Yeah,

776
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Speaker 2: So again, they don't play tomorrow. The schedule comes out tonight,

777
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: so they couldn't play tomorrow. You know, it's just it's

778
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: a it's a process. And I get the fan reaction

779
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: to certain things when they happen, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, that's why it's fun to be a fan.

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Speaker 2: We all have we all have reactions to everything that's made,

782
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: every move that's made. But you know, I've just learned

783
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: over the years, and you know, in regards to these things,

784
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: like there's typically another shoot a drop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at some point there's usually part two of the plans.

786
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know when you this guy gets released, well

787
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: that means this or this means that. And you just

788
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: got to think we.

789
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Speaker 3: Have money tied up for now, like you were talking about,

790
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: and then the receiver will fall after you know, a

791
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Speaker 3: big quarterback contract. And I think that's a real good point.

792
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Speaker 2: It's not just playing you're not playing checkers, you're playing chess.

793
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Speaker 2: And and this move maybe may set up the next

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Speaker 2: two moves.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, And it doesn't mean that they like I'm

796
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Speaker 3: sure that they've set things up for a yes, last year.

797
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean it always works, you know, but this

798
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: gives us the best chance to go sign one of

799
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Speaker 3: these three players, or make this trade or make another

800
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: draft pick move, or restructure a contract. It's always moving.

801
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Speaker 3: I mean, a roster and team building is never stacked

802
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: acking of me, but it's just kind of constantly. I

803
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: mean even late June, early July, Well what if we

804
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: restructure this guy? And yeah, I mean you still think

805
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: about that stuff. Yeah, and it's.

806
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Speaker 2: Concept and you just got your first look at the

807
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: rookies last weekend.

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Speaker 3: You know, and it's a brief one, but at least

809
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 3: you get your hands on them, right right.

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Speaker 2: They got the playbook, now they've got.

811
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Speaker 3: The the position. Coach has got to spend time with them.

812
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: And that's big. Can I coach this guy up? Can

813
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: I did he pass kindergarten? You? I mean? Can I

814
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 3: get him the second grade? Third grade?

815
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Speaker 2: Now it's let's start picking this stuff up a little

816
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: bit more. And they get a couple of weeks now

817
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: before they even start the real OTA sessions.

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Speaker 3: When is the next OT or when's the next time

819
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Speaker 3: that they play football? We got a little while two weeks. Yeah,

820
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: it's like two weeks, okay, so yeah, any time.

821
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Speaker 2: And no mini camp until June. It's one of the

822
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Speaker 2: things that the team the teams did this year. A

823
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Speaker 2: lot of teams, over half the league actually chopped off

824
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Speaker 2: one of their OTA weeks.

825
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Speaker 3: Just didn't think they needed it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, And and I think, honestly, to me,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just guessing on this, I think it was

828
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Speaker 2: a tip of the of the cap or just an

829
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Speaker 2: a nod to the players Association, because last year we

830
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Speaker 2: heard a lot of well why don't we just start

831
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Speaker 2: training camp or have your have your OTAs in mini

832
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Speaker 2: camp in July and roll right into training camp. Coaches

833
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Speaker 2: don't want that.

834
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Speaker 3: Coaches don't want that. I mean the coaches are busy

835
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Speaker 3: now I mean right, not as busy as at certain

836
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Speaker 3: times of the year, but they're busy now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, now, now you know what you got coming

838
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: out of the draft. Now I go, okay, now, how's

839
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Speaker 2: this guy fit into what we're going to do.

840
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: There's burnout. You need to get away. I mean, you

841
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: need to see your family, I mean coaches.

842
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 2: So for people that don't know, the coaches typically are

843
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: are those three weeks before training camp starts. That's when

844
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 2: they finally get an opportunity to go on vacation.

845
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: That's their real time to go to the beach or

846
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Speaker 3: whatever I mean with their family.

847
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Speaker 2: That because as soon as the season's over, you're assessing

848
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: what you had, what happened. Now you're looking at, Okay,

849
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 2: what do we got here coming available in free agency?

850
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: Going to start digging into the draft. Then free agency hits,

851
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 2: then you do the draft, then you get these young

852
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: players in Like if you.

853
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Speaker 3: There's stretches where it's not one hundred hour weeks but

854
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: if you're the running back coach and I'm just throw

855
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: on it. Hey, we're thinking about signing JK. Dobbins. Can

856
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: you get in here and watch every tape he has yesterday?

857
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: All right, Well, you kind of have to be on

858
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: call too. It's not just like I just disappeared. You know,

859
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to go off into the mount to bet right, right, right,

860
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: can't reach me for the next two weeks, right, Like, hey,

861
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: we have an opportunity or we didn't know this guy

862
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: who was able to get the Cowboys receiver coach. Yeah. Man,

863
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: I was kind of relaxing, and they're like, now I

864
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: need to know everything about George in the next twenty

865
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Speaker 3: four hours.

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Speaker 2: The entire on call right as it is now. The

867
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: entire league shuts down in July, like July first on,

868
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: there really is office shuts down, like people are one.

869
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: Of you get like fines or suspensions or.

870
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: None of that because they're all gone. That's when they

871
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: take their vacation.

872
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the agents actually get a brig either of

873
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: the players. I'm sure the players are working out, Yeah,

874
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: but they don't. I mean I have to they want yeah, right,

875
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the only time of the year.

876
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's they don't want that. So I think

877
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: a lot of at least half the teams this year

878
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: said Okay, we'll chop a week off these OTA sessions

879
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: just to make it a little more.

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00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: Powerful, right, Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, are we

881
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: really gaining that much? Might be gaining more in goodwill

882
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: and you know, mental health from the players than we

883
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: are actually making them better football players.

884
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: Used to be none of that at all all, Like

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00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: you didn't my first year on the beat. You showed

886
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 2: up the mini camp. That was the first time you'd

887
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: seen any of the players.

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00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I went into the locker room that Kevin

890
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: Green had just signed. That was the first the first

891
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: guy went and talked to and you know, did a

892
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: story and wrote a story on Kevin Green because he

893
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: was a brand new Steeler at that point and nobody

894
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: seen him. Yeah, that was the first time you saw him.

895
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: It was at that mini camp. There were no OTA sessions.

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Speaker 3: And folks Dale and I are also going to take

897
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: a vacation at some point in our life too, Like

898
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 3: that's coming to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right in July. Yeah, yeah, you know that's the

900
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: way that works. I mean I set it off the

901
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 2: same time every year like I got this time. That yeah, question,

902
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: no question. So anyways, let's get to a break. That's

903
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Speaker 2: going to do it for our number one of the

904
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Speaker 2: drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I

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Speaker 2: will be back with our number two right after this