1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. I mean, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: you and Ben got into a little little situation, me 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: and batter, Me and Joelle, you know, you, you and 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: you enjoy all the Philly, Yeah, all the philis because 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: you and Joel was I think you were on the 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: floor and then Ben somehow ended up on top of you, 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: and y'all was going back and forth, and then you 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: and you and Joel Joel be trolling everybody. Joe'll be 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: going and everybody. So how did that start? How did 10 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: you and Joel end up? Obviously y'all big, y'all battle 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: each other on the court, but how did it end 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: up going to social media? 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: Just just competition. I think that moment just happened with 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: so much competition happening. Two guys who feel they're the 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: best and improve it against each other. I think that, Uh, 16 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: it's just competition. I don't think anything. Me and Joel 17 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: talked about it. We uh it's kind of funny. We 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: just laugh about it at this point. 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Now, when you go into the game and you playing 20 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: against Joel, or you playing against Anthony Davis, or you 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: playing against uh Joker, are you playing against any of 22 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: the bigs, Let's just say their five big do you 23 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: go in there light? I'm sure I'm shure, and everybody 24 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: to night you. 25 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: Know you always I would think anyone would be lying 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: if they said that it wasn't a little extra juice 27 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: for that game. But I approach every game as if 28 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Joker and be Anthony Davis is out there. You know 29 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna just take it lights. 30 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Right, you don't take the night out. 31 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: No, No, I can't do that. Like, that's not how 32 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: it works. 33 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Because they're in the NBA too. Because anybody, and this 34 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: is what I tell people about the NFL, anybody, no 35 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: matter what you think, anybody in the NFL can make 36 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: anybody else in the NFL look bad. They're in the NFL. 37 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: They get a check too. So a guy that just 38 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: because he's not joeling bad, oh, he'll hang twenty five 39 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: and ten on you in the night man Cat gave 40 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: up twenty five. 41 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: And ten to a guy it exactly. 42 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: So you have to be on your best behavior every single. 43 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: Night, every night, every night. And also just for the 44 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: love of the game, love of competing. Yeah, Like, if 45 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: you love competing, you're not just going out there to 46 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: competing only against the other best of the best, right, 47 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm trying to say. You go out 48 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: there and you could be every single night. So every 49 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: time I step on that court, I want to go, 50 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: you know, not only get a win, but show, you know, 51 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: put on a show for the fans who may be 52 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: a little kid. This is his only time to be 53 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: able to come watch the Timberleves game, and this is 54 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: only game NBA game he's ever watched, or his first 55 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: NBA game, or whether it be you know, funds are tight, 56 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: and this may be the only game you see all year, 57 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: in the next four years, five years, two years, three years, 58 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: ten years, whatever it is. I want to just bring 59 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: my best to the court so I could obviously get 60 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: us a win, but also so I could be the 61 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: best version for you know, whoever may be there, also 62 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: for my family as well, who're watching it. 63 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: You gotta face let's just say, for the Sega argument, 64 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: you gotta face Joker on a Monday. You got Joel 65 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: on two, got Joel on Wednesday? Okay, you got Anthony 66 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Davis on Saturday. 67 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: I'm playing all three games. 68 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: You playing? 69 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 2: Oh okay, no, what why would I take a day off? 70 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: What's your what's your mindset? Because each guy brings poses 71 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: a little different threats. 72 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: You know, Joelle and b you may have to worry 73 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: about the files. You also worry about that mid range 74 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: pull up from the Dallas action at the free throw 75 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: line with a d You're worrying about the old post 76 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: up full court, put his hands up, does a spin, 77 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: gets an Ali you dunk, or you know he hits 78 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 2: you with that jab step, or he hits you with 79 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: the old Kentucky special right right, mid block, goes left, 80 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: goes baseline, shoots the right hand floater and one. And 81 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: also with Joker, you know you worry about the passing 82 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: just as much as you worry about him scoring. You 83 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: worry about him effecting the game. So he gets he 84 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: gaves me. Not saying they're the same player, but both 85 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: highly respectable in their own regards. But like Marcasol. When 86 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: I was younger, regarding Marcasol, everyone asked me who's the toughest, 87 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: and I felt Marcasoul was because just so much how 88 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: much he impacted winning for the team. Is passing, is scoring, 89 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 2: but just let alone with the way that he facilitates 90 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: the ball causes a lot of problems. So they all 91 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: present different different expertise in games in their craft and 92 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: it's fun. That's the whole point. Yeah, as a competitor, 93 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: it's fun to be able to have a week like 94 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: that where you're playing the best of the best and 95 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: we get to go out there and and play basketball 96 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: at its highest level. I think that's the fun part. 97 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't know the cat. This seems like you be 98 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: juiced up a little bit more when you play a 99 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: d because you be trying to one pick out the 100 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: number one pick Kentucky boy. Yeah, yeah, you had a 101 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: little bit. You add a little extra season into a cat. 102 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: I am you do. You know it too. 103 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: I just go out there and I try to win. Man, 104 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: it's something that, hey, it don't matter just anyone who 105 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: steps up the court. You want to compete, play the best, 106 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: and then of course you know there's history in Staple Center. 107 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: You know you want to play well at Staple Center. 108 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: I know it's crypto now, I can't even look at 109 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: it the same. Yeah, I can't look at it as crypto. 110 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: Yes, people just people still call it. A lot of 111 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: people still call it, maybe not publicly, but they still 112 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: say privately it's Staple for sure. Yeah, best big in 113 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: the game right now? If they say, okay, cat best 114 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: big right now? Playing basketball. 115 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: We got so much good bigs on the NBA is 116 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: a blessing. I mean, you would probably have to say, Joker, no. 117 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: I ain't got to say, I mean you playing, I 118 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: don't play. 119 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: I think they're all great. 120 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna put the four on the back. 121 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: They might, but I feel. 122 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: That man, Joker is incredible. I think Joker, three time MVP, 123 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: Joel and b is amazing in his own regard, especially 124 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: he's mastered the craft. I think of scoring in a 125 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: in a different way, you know, and a D two 126 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: ads impactful defender, but also you know, ad get going. 127 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: You know it could be a it could be a 128 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: bad night. 129 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: He can get you forty twenty ye quick, quick to 130 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: and he'll give you five blocks on the side to it. 131 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: So public opinion, I think, I think public opinions, everyone's 132 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: gonna have their own opinion. I think to say the best, 133 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: I think, I think these guys are really good, right, 134 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: it's really good. I respect them. It's funny when you 135 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: get to watch them and you get to play against them, 136 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: but also when you're watching them as a as a 137 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: fan of the game of basketball. As the art right 138 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: when you get to watch them guys. You know, those 139 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: guys do what they do best. It's really cool. Just 140 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: like Steph Curry. Yeah, as a shooter, I was incredible 141 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: to watching the Olympics. 142 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: If I put down you beat still for the three 143 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: point competition, I'll give it my. 144 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: Best shot for s I give my best shot for 145 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: Selle Uh. He's the best shooter that's ever lived, hands down. 146 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: It's crazy. You was the last two games against Hey, 147 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: I ain't never seen a man that made me get 148 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: off my eyes on the couch and go shoot and 149 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: start shooting basketballs Now, that was crazy. 150 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, for me to I've played 151 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 2: against I was telling my girl, I said, to watch 152 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: stuff do what he did against France. It kind of 153 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: like I've played against what you say, prime vintage Steph. Yes, 154 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: and it was so much talent he had. But to 155 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: watch what he did against France that it was like 156 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: vintage Steph as his most polished version, expert level. And 157 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: it wasn't like he was just making shots by talent. 158 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: It was making shots off of just calculated precision. Just 159 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna shoot the ball four different ways, four threes. 160 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you four different types of shots, and 161 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna show you how well I shoot the ball. 162 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: I mean, the first one he gets pull up boom, 163 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: the little first one. But the first one was just 164 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: more of like a straight shot, straight through shot. Second 165 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: one he gives you kind of the pump fake brings 166 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: it here, gets in the pocket. You know what I'm 167 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: trying to say, a little hit shot. Then he give 168 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: you the third one. It's a huh step to the left, 169 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna give you this set shot three boom 170 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: in the fourth point, he just reached over to he 171 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: freestyle freestyle on that one. That one was crazy. I mean, 172 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: think about it. He hops steps to the right, lines 173 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: his shoulder, flicks it. Fuck it like that's special man 174 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: as a shooter. Just the absolute expertise he put on 175 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: as a shooter, right was. 176 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: If you hit something like that, or let's just say 177 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, CAD, you hit something, you 178 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: hit a couple of shots like that. You get one 179 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: going late in the shot clock, boom, you pit it 180 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: go now hey they come you side step and let 181 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: it go. You hit hit a couple of like let's 182 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: just say you hit three three in the first. You know, 183 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: you got to going on that night, I. 184 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: Had sixty two. I had sixty two when that was happening. 185 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: So can you get enough shot because now because now 186 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: you like, because I'm sure everybody's telling Cat you got disimated. 187 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: Go get seventy, go get eighty. 188 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to you. I was trying to 189 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: put points out. I was just trying anytime I touched 190 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: the ball and felt so the game felt so easy 191 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 2: and relaxed to me. I was just trying to score, 192 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: put us up a lot. I was hoping, now you know, 193 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: we get up by a lot of points and I 194 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: would just be able to sub out the game. I 195 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: was hoping I didn't even have to get sixty because 196 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: we was winning by so much. Now you got me 197 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: thinking about Steph Curry again. I spent most of my 198 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: day on that day when they played France. I think 199 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: it was Saturday. Yeah. I spent the next four hours 200 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: just doing the moves and shooting the ball, like I 201 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: know I could shoot like this, possibly, I know I 202 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: could do. He shot so well he made me forget 203 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: I could shoot. That's how well he shot. I was like, yo, 204 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: that's crazy. One day I was like, wait a minute, 205 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: I can do this too. Hold up and say, let 206 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: me go out there and work on this real quick. 207 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: I mean that was I was spectacular. 208 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, give me five bigs you 209 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: would like to play against in any era. 210 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: Hakeem Olajuwan, I gotta go with someone I mimicked a 211 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: lot of my game or after Sam Perkins shout out 212 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: to Sam Perkins, Kareem, I'll do Jabbar. I really wanted 213 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: to play against too, Wilt Chamberlain. You know, I just 214 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: feel like you see Kareem play, but you don't really 215 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: get too much footage of Wilt playing, so, like, you know, 216 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: to see the myth legend playing in Bryson would be 217 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: really cool. I was. I was talking to one of 218 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 2: my friends about this. I was, I was really one. 219 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: Maybe Bucher. 220 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: For the Knicks. 221 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: I just there's something that's so poetic about his game. 222 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: I think that's really cool. I really would like have 223 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: to been able to be in person and guard, you know, 224 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: guard these people, be able to play and you know, 225 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: iron sharpens iron, just be able to see greatness in 226 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: front of me and be able to guard and show 227 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: how great I am. And also at the end of 228 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: the day be able to watch that tape and learn 229 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: from it. It's something that I think would be really cool. 230 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: So those kind of guys, I mean, willis reed. We 231 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: could keep going down the list. There's a lot of 232 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: people down in history that if I was honored and 233 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: blessed with the opportunity to play basketball against him, that 234 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: I'll be blessed. But one day we'll all meet up on. 235 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: The court up there and we'll be able to hash 236 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: it out. Said, yeah, for sure. You see the scoring. 237 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: I think the night that you scored sixty two, was 238 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: it Luca a joelan beat scored Joel and b got seventy, 239 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: got seventy, and then Luca came back and we talked. 240 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: About it after he was like I was in the halftime, 241 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: they said, Carl right here. He said, damn, we gonna 242 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: beat me today. And then I think a night or 243 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: two later Luca had got seventy three three or something 244 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: like that. 245 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: We all know the great Will has the record of 246 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: one hundred. We know Kobe has eighty one, and there 247 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: have been like I think Will got seventy eight and 248 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: a couple of people got seventy three, seventy five. Do 249 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: you think we'll see somebody break that hundred point in 250 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: your while you're playing. Will somebody get one hundred? 251 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: I don't know it's gonna be tough. I've seen a 252 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: lot of people get seventy. I've seen someone get seventy 253 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: in the NBA, and I seem like that's probably the 254 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: highest we could do. 255 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: That's because Luca need another. 256 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: Twenty seventy exactly, bro, and he was hit in everything, 257 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: so it's twenty seven more points. I don't think there's 258 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: gonna be enough free throws out there and players to 259 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: get these free throws done. So I don't know. I'm 260 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: gonna I can tell you one thing, though, unk, I'm 261 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: gonna have all of time watching it happen. 262 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: Possibly, right, you better hope it happened against you though. 263 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: One hundred points one hundred points old. Well, like my 264 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: UNC Darryl Dawkins said, I'm gonna go file someone before. 265 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: They Magic Johnson's business advice. Magic Johnson said he had 266 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: lunch with all the Lakers season ticket holders to pick 267 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: their brains and to learn how they built their wealth. 268 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: Have you done anything that car because obviously you made 269 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: a boatload of money. You're making money and Obviously, you 270 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: hear everybody talk about building a brand, but everybody wants 271 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: to accumulate this. I don't know if whatever you want 272 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: to be, do you want to own a franchise, be 273 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: an NFL, NBA, whatever the case may be. What have 274 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: you done to make sure that Karl Anthony Towns is 275 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: maximizing his ability out he has this type of money 276 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: and to maximize his earning potential off the court. 277 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: Listening, being able to utilizing the relationships and the friendships 278 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: I've made, and just learning their intellectual capital. Yes, and 279 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 2: also saying the word no a ton you know, I 280 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: think that's the hardest one too. Yeah, I think that 281 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: you know, when you're blessed with this opportunity to have 282 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: this kind of financial security, you a lot of times 283 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: want to take care of everybody. You want to be 284 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: able to be the person that takes people out of 285 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: situations and stuff. But you can lead people to the pond, 286 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: you can't fish for them too, you know. So, uh, 287 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: just learning to say the word no, I think is 288 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: the biggest thing that I've definitely has helped me garner 289 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: even more wealth. Shout out to the amazing people who've 290 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: taught me so much. From Junior Bridgeman to Magic John 291 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: people like that. You know you talked about franchising first. 292 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: I mean, there's no one better than Junior Bridgeman at it, 293 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: So just saying the word no tho. You know, there's 294 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: a lot of bad investments to be made. And when 295 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: you don't have the word know in your repertoire, you're 296 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: going to continue to say yes, and you're going to 297 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: just keep throwing money at things that you know may 298 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: not make money back from the ones you lost. 299 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: So well, you have to put limits on it. Cat. 300 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: You have to put limits on what you give because 301 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: takers will never put limits on what they take. Does 302 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: it is it hard to say? Is it hard? Because 303 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: a lot of times Cat, people that have been around 304 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: us before Cat had this financial security. Yeah, when Cat 305 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: was growing up, there were people around Cat that didn't 306 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: know Cat was going to become this. And you like, 307 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: does it get hard to tell? Because it's easy to 308 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: tell people know that just came in in the last 309 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: ten months. If the ones that's been around Cat for 310 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: twenty plus. 311 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: I've been blessed to have a great support system, amazing 312 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: parents obviously, and an amazing sister where I've been able 313 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: to have a support system that supported me the decisions 314 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: I had to make, and some of them were tough. 315 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: You know, have to say no to some people. So 316 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: it's tough. 317 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: You know. 318 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: Like I said, you're the first of your of your 319 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: family's history to be able to do this kind of 320 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: job and to be able to accumulate this amount of money, 321 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: financial security. The blessing be to God. But you know, 322 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: if it comes a lot of responsibility. And I think 323 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: we both understand that absolutely. So you want to help everyone, 324 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: you can't also live the life for them, you know. 325 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: So you can help some, but you can't save anyone. No, Uh, 326 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: You've had a relationship. Fifty cent Liquor is the official 327 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: sponsor of Spirits of the Timberwolves. A Rod we know 328 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: obviously know the baseball player, but he's a minority owner 329 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: of the Timberwolf. And I think you had a you 330 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: went to a Floord Mayweather's gym. Yes, three guys that 331 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: have been very, very successful and their chosen professional profession 332 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: but then parlayed that into business. What did you learn 333 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: from some of those guys being around them, talking to them, 334 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: picking their brain. 335 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: I think it was the things I was talking about, 336 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: like building relationships and utilizing these moments where we have 337 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: a Jersey on should be able to learn. Like I said, 338 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: intellectual capital is something that has a tremendous amount of value. 339 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: Yes where we come from. And you know this, like 340 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: you only know what you know, correct, But to hear 341 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: people who are doing at the highest level when they're 342 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: teaching you, and maybe even something as simple as just 343 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: a different way of thinking about business, that business could 344 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: change lives and it could change your portfolio, it could 345 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: change the way you look at business and also garner 346 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 2: you a ton of money. So I just I just 347 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time just listening, listening to these 348 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: super smart individuals who haven't figured out in their crafts. 349 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 2: And like you said, and I think those three people 350 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: have taken the moment where they were being the best 351 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: at their profession and utilized it to build relationships and 352 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: also garner knowledge for their next the next career. And 353 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: I think that they've they've done an amazing job. I 354 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: mean to even hear fifty cent a rod two people, 355 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: I was back my way East Coast and New Jersey, 356 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm like going crazy for I remember going out my 357 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: way to go get some g unit shoes in Jersey 358 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: and have the faux exl G Unit sweatsuit type thing. Yeah, 359 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: and a Rod, you know, doing whatever already took to 360 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: get an a Rod Jersey and my collection. I mean, 361 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: it's crazy to be able to call these people business 362 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 2: associates but also friends. 363 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: In the conversation that we were just having, he was 364 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: talking about what you learned from fifty and a Rod 365 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: and Floyd Mayweather four times. I don't know if you 366 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: notice he used the word relationship. I don't think people 367 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: realize that enough. Is that business is about relationship. 368 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: Yes, it is. It's a trust of each other to 369 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: get the job done. 370 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: It's about and sometimes it might not the business that 371 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: you could potentially do might not happen then. But he said, 372 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: you know what, man, you know that dude, Karen Anthony 373 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: Towns Man, I was talking to him about four years 374 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: ago and he was interested in doing something. I think 375 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: he would be great for this project. 376 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: There's kindness goes a long way, and it does. And 377 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: you know, I always feel that good people always win 378 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: in the end. So just being a good person, you know, 379 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: being a man, a man that walks to faith and 380 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: talks to faith. I think that is a for me 381 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: has worked tremendously in my career outside of basketballom and uh, 382 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: you know, numbers say what they say about me playing basketball, 383 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: and I've been think, you know, I can't thank God 384 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: enough for this ability to have that kind of financial 385 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: security in my job and from the contracts I've been 386 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: able to garner for my talent that's been God given. 387 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: But for me to be able to translate that also 388 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: off the court and make a ton of money off 389 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: the court, you know, with that kind of knowledge, As 390 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: you know, I gotta give all credit to my parents. 391 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: They taught me how to shut up and listens today. 392 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: What are some of the things obviously you have, You've 393 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: made a lot of money, You're gonna make a lot 394 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: more money. What are some of the things. What are 395 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: some of the things that that cat likes to buy? 396 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: What is what is? What is like your first person? 397 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: When you got you, when you signed you the number 398 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: one draft pick and you know you're gonna get X 399 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: amount of dollars? What was the first thing Cat bought? 400 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: I paid the mortgage off my parents. 401 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: I got a place to stay it. 402 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: No matter what, right, right, no matter what happens, We're good. 403 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: We're good. 404 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: Exactly other than just for myself. I kept it. I 405 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: kept it simple. I mean, I think the first thing, 406 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: I really I love golf, So I just bought myself 407 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: a Scottie camera. I bought myself a Scottie Cameron. 408 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: And that's a long ass Scottie camera, right man yourself. 409 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: Hey, I still use the same puddy to this day. 410 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: I kid you not kid you not love that putter 411 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 2: to this day. And I bought my I bought me 412 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: that and I think it was an Xbox. I was cooling, 413 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: that's it. That was cooling. I had that. You know, 414 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 2: I love watches watching. 415 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: That's a very special. That's a vantage. 416 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: Paul Newman, lad Man, you know I love watches. But cars. 417 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: You a car guy. 418 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: I'm seven car am I getting in? Yeah? Yeah, I told, 419 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: I said, I told. I told my friends. I said, 420 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: it's crazy. I worked so hard in my life to 421 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 2: get the finances that I have, and now when I 422 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: got it, I can't get anything. 423 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah you got you gotta get an Issuv suv. 424 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: That's it. You can't get no sports. No, nothing happened. 425 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: I know Shock pulled off the custom Lambeau. I ain't 426 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: pulling that off. So I'm gonna stick to my little 427 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: my little suv and that's cooler. 428 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm good. Let me ask you this, give me a 429 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: new Jersey Mount Rushmore. You got Shaq, Kyrie, Dennis Robin 430 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: j R. Smelled Rick bad, Mike Baby, you bam, Jalen Brunson, 431 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: get four heads. 432 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: You even put Donin Mitchell in there too, Okay. 433 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: Put him on there. All I know that's that's an 434 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: extra person. Let's go get left off problem boy. 435 00:21:52,960 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: Hey. I mean for me personally speaking, I'm not going 436 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: to put myself in there because I liked I like 437 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: to like people put me in that. Ye speak for 438 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: me like you said, h Shock someone who It's been 439 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: such an integral part of my life watching basketball but 440 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: also from Jersey, just motivating Kyrie. I think Kyrie is 441 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: the best I've ever seen in my life playing in 442 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: Jersey like that. 443 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: Two more spots by seven people left. Ain't no twins 444 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: on Mount Roycemore either, right, h. 445 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: Growing up for me, Kyrie was one of the best 446 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: players I've ever seen, and then j R. Smith was 447 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: right there, so I used to go to the game. 448 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: So for me, I'm gonna have to go with j R. 449 00:22:51,240 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: Smith And then honestly, like I said, this is my opinion. 450 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: This is just what my own two eyes have seen 451 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: these people do. I'm gonna give it to my old 452 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: team MKA Kyle Anderson when he was over there A 453 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: sy Anthony's never lost. Really, he was one of the 454 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: I've never seen someone who can hit you with such 455 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 2: a slow cross over. Oh my god, I would give 456 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: it to k was one of the players. He never 457 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: lost the game. 458 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 459 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 2: So I'm like, I said, I'm gonna go with my 460 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore because I need to see it with my 461 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: own two eyes. Like General Patton said, I want you 462 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 2: to tell me. I need to see it. So I just, uh, 463 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: my own two eyes seeniece four people do something magical 464 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: in Jersey that seemed impossible for us. You know, maybe 465 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: New York had a different you know that a different field, 466 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: but Jersey was something that kind of thought. 467 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm about to ask you that. So I better basketball 468 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: State Jersey or New York in West Uh huh. 469 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: He ruggle Parkers big time in New York. Jersey got 470 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: a lot of skill, got a lot of dudes with skills, 471 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: idn't I'm always gonna go with my city. I gotta 472 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: go with my state Jersey. I got to that's home cooking. 473 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: That's home cooking. Like I said, with my own two eyes, 474 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: I've seen people who may not be an NBA or 475 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: we may not know cook a lot of people. And 476 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: I've seen also being in New York so much playing 477 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: at the Gauchos gym and growing up with k and 478 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: seeing what he was doing, like, of course I'm gonna 479 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 2: go with Jersey all day every day. 480 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: When you're growing up, were you a Knicks fan or 481 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: Nets fan? 482 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: Nixt yea And I love the Nuts. I used to 483 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: go to nets my my mom's job. She worked at 484 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: Rutgers at um D, n J, and they used to 485 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: give her some free tickets sometimes when I used to 486 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: go and watch the Nuts. And I remember this was 487 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: the Jersey Nets, New Jersey Nets. It's Carter, Kenny Martin 488 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: and Jason Kidd, Richard Jefferson. People who've old care kittles 489 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: carried kittles, didn't even realized Cow was the coach. I 490 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 2: didn't even know that till I got ol. Then now 491 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm with him, and I'm like, wow, I was seeing 492 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: you on the sideline. But I'm seeing these NBA players 493 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: that I'm just in awe of watching them the art 494 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: they're putting on for us, and I love them nuts. 495 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: I just nix was was different because my mom, when 496 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: she immigrated over from dr she always went to the 497 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: Knicks games and when she had a chance and took 498 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: my sister in. I just I love my mom, so 499 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: she told me that was hern And also the Knicks 500 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: were one of the few teams that gave my dad 501 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 2: a chance on the NBA as well with training camp 502 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: with them, so you gave my dad a chance. My 503 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: mom grew up talking so much about Madison Square Garden 504 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: the history that comes with it, so of course it 505 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: was impressionable. And then on top of that, the most 506 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: impressionable stage in my career when it came to playing basketball, 507 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: especially as just a kid, I'm seeing lind Sanity go crazy. Yeah, yeah, 508 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 2: that lind Sanity was going crazy. 509 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: And I don't know which was crazy or Lin sanity 510 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: or t bow Lynn sanity. 511 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: For me was crazy because I actually could watch it right. 512 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: You know, back in the day you only had a 513 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 2: certain amount of you know, ESPN, maybe you could watch 514 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: some NBA games National TV, and MSG was free right 515 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: way to being able to watch the next play on 516 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: MSG and then watch you know the nets will be on, yes, 517 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: So I went with You know, I had two teams 518 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: to pick from. MG was the easiest for me to 519 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: watch for free, and lynd Sanity was the hottest thing 520 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: at the time, so of course I was watching and 521 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: I was tuned in. 522 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: When did you hit your growth spurt? I was always tall, really, 523 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: I was always tall. So he was always the tallest 524 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: kid in the class. 525 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, since I was young second grade, I was already 526 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 2: taller than my teacher. 527 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: So so where you were you awkward? So you could 528 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: always because you know, sometimes are tall and they're gangly, and. 529 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: You know, also don't know no coordination, right right, right, right? 530 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: I was. I just played so many sports growing up, 531 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: and I used to play a ton of soccer. Okay, 532 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: so I was playing soccer all the time. And when 533 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: I was in school and I recessed, I was. 534 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: In a tall lass soccer players care right, I was, Hey. 535 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: When you kids, everyone's good to go. So I was 536 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: just I was just playing all these sports and I 537 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: was just naturally coordinated. And also I was just getting 538 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: even better at coordination, you know, because I was just 539 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 2: playing all these sports, I required different movements, different balance, 540 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: different everything. So for me being so tall, it was 541 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 2: perfect for me to be experimenting with so many different sports. 542 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: Right, What made you choose Kentucky? Obviously, when you had 543 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: your pick Kentucky, dude, Carolina can't what made you choose Kentucky? 544 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: You know, it came down to I knew what I 545 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: wanted to accomplish. They had such a great track record 546 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: with doing that, and at the end of the day, 547 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: it was just something told my mom that would be 548 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: the school for me. And she just told me, you know, 549 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: she was going to support me in any decision I 550 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: made wherever I went. But she had a good gut 551 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: feeling about Kentucky and she told me, whatever you go 552 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: pick and she knew I was kind of choosing between Kentucky, Duke, 553 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 2: Michigan State, loves NC State. I had a great visit 554 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: over there, and Rutgers. You know, I wanted to come home. 555 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 2: She works at Rutgers. It was like a perfect thing 556 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: to be home. Especially when you're young, you always think 557 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: going home is the best thing. Ever you get older, 558 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 2: you're like, hell, now, I just you know, I trusted 559 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: in my mom with my life. She gave me life. 560 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: She had a good feeling about it. I took that 561 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 2: into consideration, and when it came down to the day, 562 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: I just I had. I had a good feeling about 563 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: that on that day of picking the school, that it 564 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: was going to be Kentucky would be the best for 565 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: my life and for my family, and I think it 566 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: did a pretty good decision. 567 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: How about I do this. I'm gonna take some Kentucky, 568 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: a lumbs, some Duke alums, some North Carolina, the loves 569 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: So Anthony Davis, John wall Brook, de Fox, Shae Gill, 570 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: just Lookie Rondo, Murray, Antoine Walker, Julius, Ronald Tayshawn Prince, 571 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: Shawn Kemp. You now we're gonna go Duke, Kristen Lander, 572 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, Kyrie, Grant Hill, Zion, Elton Brand, b I, 573 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: jj Reddick, Ellen Brand, North Carolina, Michael Jordan, James Worthy, 574 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Vince Carter, Jarry Stackhouse, Sheied Wallace, he that Wold, Edie 575 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: Jumping just dunking everything, Edge one, Jameson, Tyler, Hansbro. If 576 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: I take, we're gonna play two out of three Tucky, 577 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: and we're gonna take everybody in their prime Kentucky. Y'all 578 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: beating Jordan Worthy. 579 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: I'm picking Kentucky regardless. I don't think you understand big 580 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: Blue Nation run bleeds Blue Bro. I mean, y'all gonna 581 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: pick it Kentucky up. I mean y'all got Kentucky up. 582 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: You and you are Kentucky. 583 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: Okay, y'all heard it that hey he picked Hey guy, 584 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm going with of Kentucky all day, every day, wild 585 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: Cat for life. 586 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: I don't care who you tell me. I'm going with Kentucky. 587 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: That's what's up. Rebed Kentucky. When you were there, Drake 588 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: came by a lot. What was it? What what I mean? 589 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: Obviously the campus started buzzing when he was on campus. 590 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: But what was he like? I mean, he coming to 591 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: issue when you. 592 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: Got cool, dude, like super cool, you know when you 593 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: I remember seeing Drake before that at March Madness in 594 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: Villanova and Villanova. I think they later just was coming 595 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: out and h could be wrong, but I saw him 596 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: a Kentucky. When I actually ended up going to Kentucky, 597 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: I was already there. I was on campus, was my 598 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: first year super cool guy. I was more. I was 599 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: surprised to see how humble he was and like to 600 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: see how you know, to see him for us when 601 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,479 Speaker 2: we were it's March madness for us, and we were 602 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: so we practiced in the morning. We were just like, 603 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: all right, we gotta get this done, we gotta do this. 604 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: And to see how hyped and anxious he was and 605 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: made me be like, oh, but even people who are 606 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: like the most famous artists in the world and people 607 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: who have their sets and everything so figured out, you know, 608 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: even they get kind of that anxious feeling and that 609 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: like so much energy, so much you know, adrenaline going. 610 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: So I was and we were all just so calm, like, 611 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: you know, we just gotta go out there to do 612 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: this thing, play this game real quick. So it was 613 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: cool to get to know him there. It's you know, 614 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: years later, we're still talking about how he the biggest 615 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: artists in the world and doing things that and breaking 616 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: records that thought we thought never could be broken even 617 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: by anybody, include when you have the name Michael Jackson 618 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: attached to that record. So man, it was really cool 619 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: to be able to have that, like at such a 620 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: young age, have that moment where you're like with someone 621 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: who you the music and their art you respect so much. 622 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: Who who was in the rap battle Draco Kendrick. 623 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: I think we just saw two people going out there 624 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: and just showing lyricism at a high level. I love Drake. 625 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: I've always been a big Drake fan. I've been a 626 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: Kendrick fan. I respect what he does. I respect his music. 627 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: I love what he does. I really but you can't 628 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: turn the radio out without hear in that song a 629 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: cat y'all be You know, when y'all, when y'all start 630 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: winning the game, what's gonna be playing over the PA system? 631 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: They not like us? 632 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: You know? 633 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: It could be cat. I don't know. 634 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, but all I know is that for me, 635 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: I have I respect both tremendously. I'm obviously a big 636 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: fan friends with Drake. I think that more of my 637 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: life has been a soundtrack of Drake's and that's no 638 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: offense to nobody. I just think that I've I've done. 639 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: I've had more moments in my life that revolved around Drake, 640 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: including when we was in Kentucky. If you I'll never 641 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: forget being at a being in Kentucky and then all 642 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: Son again, the group text message going around saying, Yo, 643 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: you saw Drake drop? What you mean Drake drop? I 644 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: felt like I was getting played though, too, because when 645 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: I pulled it up and said, if you're reading this, 646 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: it's too late. I said, so am I late or 647 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: in my own time? I don't know, but I just 648 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: feel like from more of my life, Drake's been the soundtrack. 649 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: To my life. Give me a Kentucky starting five. A 650 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: players current players in the NBA, current players, current players 651 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: in the NBA. Are you are? You can or you 652 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: can use any I can't talk about this. I'm gonna 653 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: make it difficult. Give me your Kentucky starting five. 654 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: John wall Ad and Twine Walker. I would love to 655 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: throw my brother Book in now. 656 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: You can't. You can put you in there. 657 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: I leave that for the people. Like I said, I'm 658 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: always keep my name out. 659 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: But they're gonna leave bam Off. I shore hate you left, bam. 660 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 2: I really Bam Well, we both all we both now 661 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: on the list. I would say, uh, as of right 662 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: now where we stand, like where they're in the career, 663 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 2: I would say, Book honestly think our best player of 664 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: that year was Willie colly Stein. 665 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: Really we all we all. 666 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: Want him to win National Player the Year more than anybody. 667 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: Wow. 668 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: So I'm going off with like that, like Kentucky, like 669 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: he was playing in Kentucky. If we're playing at Kentucky. 670 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: I can't say Book because he was on the bench. 671 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: So it's like if we look at Book now, which 672 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: we all knew on that team what he could do, 673 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 2: that's that was the show. 674 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: Different story you leading to my next question. Did you 675 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: know this, Dawn? 676 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 677 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: Really? 678 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I knew he could do that. Before he 679 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: knew he could do that. 680 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: Hell can what Kenny Kelly and put his ass in 681 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: and started doing that. 682 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: Man, I'm just saying, I ain't watching the game, but 683 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. 684 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: If you know that, he the coach, shouldn't he know that. 685 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 2: I think we went with seniority. We had Aaron Andrew 686 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: Harrison just won of them last year. Last year got 687 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: him through all those big shots. I think we we 688 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: did what we did was best, and we as a 689 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: team we always said we were gonna win together and 690 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: we're gonna lose together. So I think that what we 691 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: see Book doing now, we all knew he could do. 692 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 2: But also even in NBA, he had to wait for 693 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 2: his moment. 694 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: And when he got his moment that Mayne dropped seventy, 695 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: done dropped sixties. 696 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 2: Hey, it took him years before he was getting DMPs. 697 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: His rookie here too. 698 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: But y'all, y'all saw the talent. Y'all saw that smooth. 699 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: I mean I think everyone saw the talent. We all 700 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: got drafted. No no, no, no, no, no, no no, 701 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: we all got drafted every time he went to those 702 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: workouts because we all worked out. It was me and him, Dillo, 703 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: Willie Colly signed Keith for Sykes. We all was together 704 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 2: when we was doing these workouts, and we knowing what 705 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: people are saying, and people already knew what he could do. 706 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: And we all sawacrifice too, because remember we did the 707 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 2: platoon system, so it wasn't like because I was a starter, 708 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: I was playing the most minutes, right, you know, we 709 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: was playing half or even less starters than the bench, 710 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 2: so some guys would get more minutes on the bench 711 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: than the starter. Was Wow, that just shows you the sacrifice. 712 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: That's why I keep saying, like to have a team 713 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 2: like that, you got nine draft picks and for everyone 714 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: to come together and say, naw, we're going to do 715 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: whatever it takes to win. Forget what we thought, we 716 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 2: knew that we needed to do to take our families 717 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 2: and be able to feed our families. After Kentucky, we 718 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 2: just locked into just being the best team we could 719 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 2: be and winning and at the end of the day 720 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 2: when it took care of everything and we all got 721 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 2: to take care of our families. 722 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself a four or five? 723 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 2: I'm both. I think I could do four or five duties, right. 724 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: Okay, well good, give me your top five fours in 725 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: the history of the game. 726 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 2: Top five, top five, Dirk KG, Tim Duncan. 727 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: Is he a four? 728 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: What do you classify as a four? 729 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, KG, Dirk, you got Karl Malone, you got Gianni's, 730 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: you got Charles, you got. 731 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: Is gonna be counted as a four? 732 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: Yes? 733 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 2: Really as we want? I thought he's we're gonna count 734 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: as a three. But if you want to count as a. 735 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: Four year four. 736 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 2: Three, you could be the five. Fall At that point, 737 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: brick Lovez just makes. 738 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: It seem like he really is. 739 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 2: I would say, Karl Malone, Okay, it's gonna be someone 740 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: left off. Mm hmm. 741 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: I Love be honest too, I can't tell. You can't 742 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: tell he bring a band three times? I mean you 743 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: can put yourself on that too if you want to. 744 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: No, like I said, I ain't put myself. 745 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: I let people do. But we got Tim, we got 746 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: kg we got Dirk, we got Karl Malone. So we 747 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 1: only got one more left. So that's either Yiannis, Charles, 748 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: Chris Bosh, Dinnis Robin. 749 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking in the beginning it was 750 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 2: Chris Bosh. But Charles Barkley was so special. 751 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: He was we were so good people. People gotta take 752 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: the time to go back and watch Barkley highlights, like, 753 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: don't let he's the shortest man. 754 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 3: Bro. 755 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: Don't not let what you see on T N T 756 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 2: fool you. 757 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: Bro. 758 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: That man was a b He was a beast, Like 759 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: what a He had a jumper. People don't even give 760 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 2: him credit for the jumper he had. 761 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I let me get it, Charles Man. I 762 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: know he'd be talking, but I respect you. Okay, now 763 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 1: you're sinners. You got Kareem Kareem, Bill Will, Shaq Hakeem 764 00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: Yo Kitchen. 765 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Shaq, Kareem Will. 766 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: Oh and Mo's Malone if you want to put him on, 767 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: he called him. If you want to count him as 768 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:08,959 Speaker 1: a four, I mean. 769 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 2: A five, Shaq, Kareem, Will Hakem shout out to Jokic. 770 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: I love him, but I really got to say him 771 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: because I think, if not, he's to me, he's one 772 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: of the best players. I got his picture of my house. 773 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 2: Bill Russell. Oh, I love Bill Russell winning. Is you 774 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,959 Speaker 2: see what he did for our game let alone before 775 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: we that, but just the fact that he won as 776 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: a player said, let me double back and be the 777 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: coach too. Matter of fact, let me own the team. 778 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 2: Damn there, be the coach and be the player and 779 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: win again. Like we ain't never going to see I'm 780 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 2: never going to see another man do this with rings 781 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 2: with rings on, just do this with extra rings. 782 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't. Well, I don't even think 783 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: you can own a team. Now you have to divest 784 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: your and look what he did it too. 785 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's crazy. Ship shout out the Yolk. Though, 786 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 2: for sure, who's your goat? 787 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of debate. They got Jordan's. I mean, 788 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, it don't have to just be Jordan and Lebron. 789 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: If you want to put Kobe in that mix, half 790 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: at it. But who's Karl Anthony Towns? 791 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm always gonna speak what I see 792 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 2: with my own two eyes. Okay, I can't speak for everything. 793 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to but man, that man Bron different, 794 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 2: That man Brian something special. 795 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: So what what makes what makes him different? 796 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: Why? 797 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: Why is he different? You played again? Like I said, 798 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: you go get Yanna, you go again, Jo. 799 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 2: So I've seen Bron and I've seen Bron in so 800 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 2: many different stages. Yeah, I feel the Bron's is the 801 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: best player we've ever seen. Talent wise, I think he's 802 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 2: the best player you could. 803 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 3: Now. 804 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 2: If you want to get caught up in chips and 805 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: rings and all that stuff, that's that's up to people 806 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 2: to debate. But when we just talk about pure talent 807 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 2: and tangible size, like to have the be the best 808 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 2: basketball player, you got to have all these different things. 809 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 2: And look when he's and look how he's done it 810 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: with the scrutiny, to criticism or anything. I mean, Bron's 811 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 2: the best player. We're saying both hands. Now. He's developed 812 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 2: that three point shot really well, defended at a high 813 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 2: level for all for all those years. Athleticism was I 814 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 2: don't think, I don't know the best you've got in 815 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 2: the NFL. I don't know can still jump as high 816 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: as he was the way he was doing it, eat 817 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 2: all that like competitiveness got the wins. Ron is bron 818 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,479 Speaker 2: is the best basketball player we've ever seen talent wise, 819 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 2: just straight off the rip, he's the best player. 820 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: During this interview, You've making your girl a lot. Jordan 821 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: Woods is your girlfriend and you met her through a 822 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 1: mutual friend so you ain't got no problem. Were you 823 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 1: nervous because you know sometimes like hey, hey, can. 824 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 2: We was friends for a minute? Okay, friends for a minute? 825 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: Well how did you so how did you make sure 826 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: you didn't stay in the friend zone because you know 827 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: sometimes oh that's my friend. 828 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you, honestly, Uh, we was 829 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 2: really friends, and I was really cool doing my other 830 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,959 Speaker 2: thing and just having her as like the homemane. Really 831 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: I was really I was cool. 832 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 3: And I. 833 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: Now you fool of her. You had to crush your 834 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: herd a long time, but you ain't wanted to know it. 835 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 2: Nah. If I did, then obviously I did. 836 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: Well. 837 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 2: I just I just was. 838 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 839 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was just the fact that 840 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 2: I was. We had a good relationship. Everything was cool. 841 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 2: It just I was doing my own thing. I was 842 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 2: cool being where I was in life. It just really 843 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: everything changed in COVID, you know, and it became more 844 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 2: of a a deeper understanding of each other from a 845 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 2: friend's spot. She had went through something that I was 846 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: going through, and I, like I said, my parents taught 847 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 2: me how to shut up and listen, so I'm okay 848 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 2: talking to people saying I don't know. And I needed 849 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: advice and I needed to learn. And she had the 850 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: knowledge that that you that that you need, that would 851 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 2: be that would be the most valuable knowledge and and 852 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 2: and advice I can ever get at a time when 853 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 2: I really really needed it, and it brought me. She 854 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 2: brought me comfort as a friend into the next phase 855 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: of my life. And that's something that's, uh that's really 856 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 2: tough to uh find in situations like that when there's 857 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 2: extreme amount of discomfort. 858 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,479 Speaker 1: And uh. 859 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 2: Ever, since then, we was man, we you know what, 860 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 2: because we was friends. So it don't feel like. 861 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't feelship. 862 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 2: I just feel like we just we living life together, 863 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 2: you know what. I'm trying to say yes and I 864 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: get to do what I want to do, and she's 865 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 2: very open to whateveryone to do because we already been 866 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 2: accepted it as friends. So it's like we just kind 867 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 2: of just we move seamless, you know, and you know, 868 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 2: people say when they say they move as one, it's 869 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 2: hard to see it. And I think for us it's 870 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 2: just so seamless. We're not trying to be anything else 871 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 2: than just you know, each other's safety net. 872 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: Right when you a public figure, obviously she's in the 873 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: public eye. Is it hard to date publicly because everything? 874 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: Oh okay they were that fashion week, Oh they were 875 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: over here. And then people start these rumors because there 876 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: was a rumor that you were seeing somebody else. You're like, 877 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: come on, bro, I got the bad the chick in 878 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: the game. Why would up. 879 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm cooler, I'm good. Life is good for me. But 880 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 2: that gets hard. I mean, I think that we both 881 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 2: have different we both lived in the public guy, right, 882 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: you know, we both have different things, different rumors. That's 883 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 2: where I've been completely false. We understand people are going 884 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 2: to go with whatever is the most entertaining right, you know, 885 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 2: and it doesn't have to be the truth. It just 886 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 2: needs to sound the best. And for us, we just 887 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 2: we know where we who we are to each other, 888 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 2: we know where we stand with each other, we know 889 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 2: the life we're building, so we're not worried about none 890 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 2: of that. We're just trying to enjoy this moment we got. 891 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 2: You know, life is only so long, right and and 892 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 2: to have this part where you get to live with 893 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 2: each other with no aches and pains, and you get 894 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 2: to live, you know, life as fullest and enjoy each 895 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 2: other's presence at its highest. You know, I think that's 896 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 2: what's making it special for us. We ain't worried about 897 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 2: none of that. We just living through each other. We 898 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 2: having fun with each other. We just getting the chance 899 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 2: to explore the world together. Just came back from Japan. 900 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 2: Like we're just growing as individuals. That's the coolest part. 901 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: We're not just like. 902 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 2: Brands cool, but like us growing as individuals, as a man, 903 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 2: as a woman, being better versions of ourselves every day. 904 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: Through each other. 905 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 2: It's pretty special. 906 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: What about a little a mini brain. Don't hit me 907 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: with that. Uh, don't hit view with that. Shout out 908 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: j shout out to the new one. But I was 909 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: just thinking about a lot like a little mini brand 910 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: and did a combination of the two brands together. You 911 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,240 Speaker 1: know what that meant. 912 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 2: That means I gotta accept my Dominican roots. But I'm 913 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 2: We're good. We're in a good spot right. Both of 914 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 2: us are happy and we both know what we want. 915 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, how would you have had? 916 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean Jason Tatum, the guy is an All NBA player, 917 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: He's an All Star Champion, Champion on the cover of 918 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: two K and they had a big feature on about 919 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: in sports Illustrate. 920 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna be in the new Netflix show with Anthony Edwards. 921 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: Yes, and two games. How are you? First of all, 922 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: are you surprised about how limited of a role and 923 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: how limited minutes he played and how would can have 924 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: handled that situation? I didn't know. 925 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: I don't know truthfully what the situation is there, But 926 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 2: I know one thing is that I feel for him. 927 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 2: He was supportive of his teammates, cheered him on, was 928 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 2: willing to come into the game at any moment and 929 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 2: try to be the best version of himself. So I 930 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 2: feel like for him he handled it with a he 931 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 2: handled it as a professional, And I think that's what's 932 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 2: respectable about him. To have someone like you said it 933 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 2: has all these accolades and just coming off the best 934 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 2: year of his career. Yeah, to kind of have that 935 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 2: moment and to take it not in a harsh way, 936 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 2: but to take it as a humbling moment, To take 937 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 2: it as a moment of motivation, a moment of appreciating 938 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 2: what he's done. I think that he did a great 939 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 2: job of just being there for his teammates and doing 940 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 2: whatever it was needed by him to win a game 941 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 2: and win the game, win a gold medal. I got 942 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 2: nothing but respect for him. I think he did so 943 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 2: many things. Winning a championship garners a ton amount of 944 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 2: respect that he should be, you know, he's warranted, and 945 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 2: then going out there winning a gold medal and doing it, 946 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: and I definitely think in the most difficult way for 947 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 2: your ego, I think that gives him a lot more respect. 948 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 2: I mean, he warrants a lot of respect. 949 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty eight. You interested in being playing for the 950 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: Land Olympics. I mean no, you go, I mean US 951 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: or dr You could play. 952 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 2: For Eviloyd to the soil. Lloyd's to the soil. I 953 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 2: promise I'll be with my mother's country. So that's been 954 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 2: my goal, and it was my goal to get us 955 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 2: to the Olympics this year, and we became one game short. 956 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 2: Greece got in instead of us. So I don't have 957 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 2: anything in my mind telling me to change, right. So 958 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 2: hopefully I'll be seeing everyone in la home cooking with 959 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 2: the r I would love that I would be first. 960 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 2: I think that would be the first Olympics we've ever 961 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 2: made too as a basketball team. 962 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, you you throughout this interview, you've touched on it. 963 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 1: You talk about a lot of the decisions that you made, 964 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: your mom was heavily invested in it. And you trust 965 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: your mom to the UPTE because you knew she genuinely, 966 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: sincerely had your best interests and she would never ever 967 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: steer you wrong when the tragic events happened. Are you 968 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 1: ever going to be the same. 969 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 2: No, I'll be a stronger version than I was that moment. 970 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 2: You get stronger. I know time wounds, all heals all wounds. 971 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 2: Time also could just make scar tissue. So I just 972 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 2: kind of have a scar there. But I became stronger 973 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 2: because of that scar. And I know that. You know, 974 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 2: my lessons was over teach me the game of life. 975 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 2: You know, she had taught me everything she needed to 976 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 2: teach me. So I'm just taking those teachings and you know, 977 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 2: taking those teachings, giving it to the youth, giving us 978 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 2: in the next generation. Taking that that love. She taught me, 979 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 2: the word love. I never knew what the word love 980 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 2: truly meant, and she taught me that every single day 981 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 2: in such different fashions. And I understand and love that 982 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be hurt, and I'm willing to show my 983 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 2: courage and show my sh strength by allowing myself to 984 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 2: possibly be hurt by showing love to others. And I 985 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 2: think that comes with That's a tremendous lesson. She taught 986 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 2: me to not stop ever showing love just because I've 987 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,720 Speaker 2: been hurt once or twice, or my love was not repaid. 988 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 2: You know, you continue to do that because it's the 989 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 2: right thing to do. You continue to do that because 990 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 2: that's who I am at my core. I'm a person 991 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 2: who is a servant leader, and I'm here to spread 992 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 2: the love she's given me throughout the years of my 993 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 2: life and give that to someone else and maybe hopefully 994 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 2: change their lives the way she changed my life. 995 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: There's a saying that says that when you care about 996 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: somebody as much as you cared about your mom, as 997 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: much as I cared about my grandmother, is that you 998 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,399 Speaker 1: never get over it. You just get better at dealing 999 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: with it. If you could tell your mom something right now, 1000 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: what would you deal her. 1001 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 2: I just tell her the main thing she want to know, 1002 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 2: sister's good niece, and you is good. She got another 1003 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 2: one now, Queen is doing amazing. My father's holding up strong. 1004 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 2: She taught me all the lessons she taught me, and 1005 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 2: being the matriarch of a family, I've took those teachings 1006 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 2: that I think I've done a pretty damn good job 1007 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 2: of keeping our family and the family she built together. 1008 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 2: And I had a strong point. 1009 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 1: And. 1010 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 2: I think for me, for me to her, I'm never 1011 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 2: allowed the love she gave me to diminish because she 1012 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 2: wasn't here. Wow, And I continue to show that quality 1013 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 2: of love with an even better understanding and using a 1014 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,320 Speaker 2: better and I communicated better than I ever had because 1015 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 2: of her. 1016 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: So I. 1017 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 2: Would tell her that the love she's given me is 1018 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 2: not lost, its brighter than ever and I'm able to 1019 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 2: communicate it at a better level because of her. So 1020 00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 2: her last lesson she gave me before she at at 1021 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,320 Speaker 2: our funeral was a lesson that I've learned. And I 1022 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 2: could tell her that I've heard the lesson clear as 1023 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 2: day and continue to share it. 1024 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: You said that when your mom, I think this was 1025 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, when pandemic. That's when Jordan, your girlfriend 1026 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: there is that what built you bond because when you 1027 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,800 Speaker 1: were at your lowest, she was at her strongest, and 1028 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,280 Speaker 1: that's what you needed in that moment. 1029 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 2: I did, I did. I never knew I've lost people 1030 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 2: really close to me. But you know, there's a connection 1031 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 2: that comes with being a You never hear a mama's girl. 1032 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: You never hear a daddy's boy. Yeah, you always hear 1033 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 2: a mama's boy, daddy's girl. So you when you lose 1034 00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 2: someone who is always going to be the from me 1035 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 2: as a man. My mom was the first person that 1036 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 2: showed me love and it was the first person and 1037 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 2: it's the longest relationship I've ever had. Wow, So imagine 1038 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 2: losing the longest relationship you've ever had, very first person 1039 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 2: to tell you I love you. So imagine. You know, breakups. 1040 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,760 Speaker 2: I think everyone who's watching this or behind the cameras 1041 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 2: and everything, you can understand that when you have a 1042 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 2: significant other, losing your you know, breaking up, going separate 1043 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 2: ways is a tough thing. Regard this, So imagine now 1044 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 2: the longest relationship, the relationship you always knew was gonna 1045 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 2: be solid. You never had to worry about that all 1046 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 2: of a sudden it's gone and you both go separate ways, 1047 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:49,399 Speaker 2: and it's it was tough, and I never had dealt 1048 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 2: with that, and I was she was just helping me 1049 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 2: throughout this, throughout that whole time because she had just 1050 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 2: lost her father, Daddy's girl, and she just lost him 1051 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 2: tragically to cancer. So to be able to one I 1052 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,720 Speaker 2: just thank her for even giving me that time and advice, 1053 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 2: because you know that that's a sense of the subject 1054 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 2: to have to bring up and I need you to 1055 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 2: help me in the same way for her to do that, 1056 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 2: and then secondly, just truly guide me through the process 1057 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 2: of losing her. 1058 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: It was. 1059 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 2: Was I hope that she does she knows I think 1060 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 2: now how important that was to me, and I'll never 1061 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 2: forget she was. I was talking to her and I 1062 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 2: remember talking to her on the last moments before for 1063 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 2: her last moment. So she gave me a lot of 1064 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 2: strength and courage when I didn't know if I would 1065 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 2: have it. And uh, she she did a lot for me, 1066 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 2: more than I could speak on. She did a lot 1067 00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:00,040 Speaker 2: for me when I needed her the most. And and 1068 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 2: it was in the you know, I think for us 1069 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 2: people who breadwinners, people who always fit the bill, Oh 1070 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 2: don't take the car to I got you know what 1071 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. For me to not have to 1072 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 2: even pay and pay for any of this advice, I 1073 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 2: didn't pay for this intellectual capital. I didn't pay for 1074 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 2: this counseling. For her to give it just so freely 1075 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 2: with love, it was something that reminded me of her 1076 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 2: who I was visiting, So it kind of gave me 1077 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 2: that sense of like someone who my mom would really 1078 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:30,879 Speaker 2: really love. 1079 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 1: That's right. It was what can we expect from Karl 1080 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: Anthony Towns in the Minnesota Timberwood twenty twenty four twenty twenty. 1081 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 2: Five season, just build off of what we did last year? 1082 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 2: Special year, special season. All of Minnesota's hype. They can't 1083 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,399 Speaker 2: wait to see their timber Wolves back. We kept going 1084 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 2: with Wolves back slogan. I don't know what we're going 1085 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 2: to do now next year, I don't know we're gonna 1086 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 2: say wolves here or what's going to go on. But 1087 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 2: what I can say is, you know, stability to hell 1088 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 2: of the thing. You know, very rarely in my career 1089 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 2: in Minnesota I've had. I'm able to look at the 1090 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 2: same people next year or even midway through the year 1091 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 2: so to be able to come back next year, all 1092 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 2: of us together, another year of learning, another year of experience. 1093 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 2: God blessed us with health, and I think we could 1094 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 2: do something special just like we did last year. But 1095 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 2: I think we could take it up a notch wegeeve 1096 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 2: and do something more so. Uh, like I said, just build. 1097 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 2: I think we got some really good experience too, Rudy 1098 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 2: playing in the Olympics with an ant, playing in the Olympics, 1099 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 2: finding a way to win, being around those guys, learning experience, wisdom. 1100 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 2: I think we got a lot. We got a lot 1101 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 2: of special things. We got some special rookies, Rob Dillingham, Shannon. Uh. 1102 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 2: We we got a lot of things in order to 1103 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 2: do something special. And now all we gotta do is 1104 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 2: go out there and do it. 1105 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: Can't one tea called Anthony Town. 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