1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Thanks for being here with us, everybody. A couple of 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: things I want to get you on the border here plan. 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about this and how 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: it's affecting the rest of the country. One thing I 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: thought was very interesting, Well, you're seeing a shift among 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: Democrats because they realize that this has become a political liability. 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: And when you have, as we played for you last week, 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: the mayor of America's largest city, New York City, my hometown. 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm still in New Yorker, even if I'm currently hanging 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: out in Miami. When you have a mayor of America's 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: largest city saying that one issue will quote destroy the city, 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: that starts to get people's attention. Now, the way the 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: Democrats are trying to frame this, I should note is 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: that somehow, when you have a Democrat White House pushing 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: open borders, Democrat policies, and then a Democrat state New 19 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: York and a Democrat city New York City that are 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: sanctuary jurisdictions, somehow it is the Republican's fault or perhaps play. 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: This is a version of the always always ready for 22 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: the Democrats. Republicans pounce, you know, this is what they 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: say when Democrats have done something that is just so 24 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: stupid it's indefensible even to their own side. Which the 25 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: migrant crisis, particularly in New York but in other cities 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: as well, has become it turns into Republicans are leveraging this, 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: they are repgnizing this political issues. Well, you're the ones 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: who did it to yourselves. You're the ones who refuse 29 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: to stop it. Here's Mayor Adams trying to do a 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: little bit damage control after the Oh but it's Republican. 31 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: It's going to destroy the city. But it's Republicans. Faul 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: for talking about this. 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: But critics on the right have noted that New York 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: City is a sanctuary city and this migrant crisis comes 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 3: with that territory. So what do you say to those 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: who think you relinquish your right to complain about the 37 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: stresses it places on your city because of that. 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 4: Well, I think that those comments coming from those far 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: right Trump like Republicans who are continued to try to 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 4: distort the reality that we do not have real immigration reform, 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 4: that we should allow a true decompression strategy to protect 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: our borders in the right way and make sure that 43 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: when you look at this city, that is a righteous 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: shelter of No one who created this decades ago took 45 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 4: in to account that we were talking about one hundreds 46 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: of thousands people potentially coming. 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 5: To the city. 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Clay, first of all, as we all know here 49 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: he is saying a decompression of security at the border 50 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: the right way. You either tell people that can't do 51 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: this or they keep doing this right now. That's step one. 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: They won't say it because it has become a Democrat 53 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: mantra that illegal the more illegals, the better. This was 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: interesting though over the weekend, just the last couple of days, 55 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: the Biden administration is considering now, and this is written 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: up in the La Times, forcing migrant families who enter 57 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: without authorization illegals to remain near the border in Texas 58 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: while waiting for asylum screening. This is now being considered 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: by the Biden White House. Now, what they're going to say, Clay, is, oh, 60 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: this means we can concentrate the resources along the border 61 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: so we can do this more efficiently. The reality is 62 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: they're creating a remain in Texas policy, and you know 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: Arizona to some extent in New Mexico. But to remain 64 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: in Texas policy for the migrants, they're going to try 65 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: to federally force the migrants to stay at the border 66 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: near the border so that La Chicago and New York 67 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: don't have to deal with this, Okay. 68 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: So yes, Texans, I would imagine, will be furious about 69 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: this idea because it effectively makes the state of Texas 70 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: responsible for the federal border crisis exclusively to a large extent, 71 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: as you mentioned Arizona, New Mexico, other crossing states become 72 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: issued as well. But we're gonna have Greg Abbott on tomorrow. 73 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: I bet he will be teeing off. The governor of 74 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: Texas right now will be teeing off on this. It's 75 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: also important to point this out. Yes, Greg Abbott has 76 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: bussed a lot of migrants, but I believe the number 77 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: that Texas has sent on buses to New York City 78 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: buck is around thirteen thousand, and the number of illegal 79 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: migrants that the State of New York and New York 80 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: City in particular is dealing with is over one hundred 81 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: and ten thousand. So yes, Texas has accelerated. What is 82 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: a mess all over the country for New York. But 83 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: a lot of these migrants that are illegally entering the 84 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: country are finding their way to New York even without 85 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: the help of the State of Texas. 86 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: I remember during I can tell you this too because 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: people have asked me this recently, said, hey, why don't 88 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: you go down on the border fight administration will allow 89 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: zero cooperation for border patrol agents and people like me media. 90 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: I would never call myself a journalist, but you know, 91 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: media folks to get some ground truth. They will not 92 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: They will not in any way be supportive of it. 93 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: During the Trump years, man, I wanted to get up 94 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: in a helicopter. I wanted to get out there and 95 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: do ride alongs. All this kind of they were. They 96 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: were down for for whatever ground truth you wanted. Now 97 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: it's hide it, hide it from people. Don't let them 98 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: see the processing centers. They claim. It's about privacy for 99 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: the individuals. Privacy. People are walking along in broad daylight, 100 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 2: waving their hands saying, hey, I'm an illegal, give me 101 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: my you know, my free food, my healthcare, and send 102 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: me to New York City. But Clay, they were already 103 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: being found and this is true of some of the 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: children that were being trafficked across the border as well. 105 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: They're being found with instructions to basically get to New 106 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 2: York City, and New York City is the greatest single 107 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: concentration of illegals and has been for a long time 108 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: in the nation period. There are more illegals in the 109 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: city of New York than any other city. You might 110 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: have to look at Los Angeles County to get a 111 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: full comparison, but for any actual urban area, New York 112 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: City has been the place they want to go. Now 113 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: this raises some intertan questions. Why is dispersing the migrants 114 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: going to be anything other than just putting the costs 115 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: on other communities. This whole premise of illegals are no 116 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: big deal is only possible because they've been dispersed into 117 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 2: a country of three hundred and forty million. There are 118 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: at least twenty million illegals in the country right now. 119 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's thirty. Whatever number I say, 120 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: people yell at me and say it's more than that. 121 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: The official number is supposed to be like twelve, which 122 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: is a joke. It's at least twenty six million. 123 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: Have come in since the Biden administration took over, right 124 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: since it was twenty six million. 125 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we have to understand is that the legal 126 00:06:54,240 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 2: system has been so convoluted and intentionally it's been so 127 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: they've messed with the gears of our immigration system so 128 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: much that nothing really makes sense anywhere. Because what I'll 129 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: say is, these are legals in New York and they'll say, well, 130 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: they're not illegals. They're awaiting asylum, to which I say, well, 131 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: the asylum system is so backed up because of their 132 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: illegal entry into the United States that it's like, you know, 133 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: the whole thing is clogged, and that's intentional, and so 134 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: if it's clogged, that can't actually function in the way 135 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: that we set the laws up to administer on immigration, 136 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: administer these issues. And they're not going to get asylum 137 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: because they're not actually asylum seekers. I come from a 138 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: country that is not America, that is more poor than America, 139 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: and that has a smaller or non existent welfare state 140 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: compared to America. Is not asylum. Yeah, And it's actually 141 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: really unfair to people all over the world who apply 142 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: for refugee status here and I have to go and 143 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: very few of them get it, Clay is people don't 144 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: even think about this. Very few of them, by the numbers, 145 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: actually get it. They're skipping the line. They're abusing the 146 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: generosity of the American people. They're hosting a lot of money. 147 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: And here's the reason Democrats care about it. If this 148 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: were twenty twenty five, if we were sitting here in 149 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: January twenty twenty five, you know what Eric has to 150 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: be saying, we can you know, we're gonna get a 151 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: federal bailout. We're gonna get this going to be far less. 152 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: They have to go through this right now because there's 153 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: an election coming up, and the American people have started 154 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: to figure out what's going on. 155 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: One hundred percent they have. And this is creating a 156 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: massive issue in the left right now because this is important. 157 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: The number one issue that Joe Biden is underwater in 158 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: is the border, and he's underwater for basically everybody because 159 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: everybody can see what a disaster the southern border is. 160 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: And all Greg Abbott and others have done is shine 161 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: a spotlight on how bad Texas and the southern border 162 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: has become. By making New York and Chicago and Washington, 163 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: d C. And others so called sanctuary cities have to 164 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: deal with the results here, and Buck, this ties into 165 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: me in a big way with the challenge that New 166 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: York City is facing. And this is what the mayor 167 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: has started to say too, is the twelve billion dollars 168 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: in budget costs which they are projecting is going to 169 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: be what all of these different over. 170 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 2: In the next three years. That's a projection, yeah, which is. 171 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: Massive, a huge, But their budget falls apart because that's 172 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: money that they have to pull out of schools and 173 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: parks and all the other state functions that are involved. Now, 174 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: the big issue here, and the structural issue that is 175 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: a major component of this, is New York is losing 176 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: many of its highest earning individuals and they're deciding to 177 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: go elsewhere. And a good example of this, Buck is 178 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: you went New York to Florida. You know, Florida has 179 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: more people now than New York. I believe that's correct. 180 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: It has half the size state budget. 181 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: That is also correct. 182 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: Yes, So what is New York spending double compared to 183 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: Florida and getting oftentimes worse results despite spending twice as 184 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: much money. 185 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: I can tell you because I looked at these numbers 186 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: when I was thinking about these choices. The single biggest 187 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: budget outlay in the New York state budget is Medicaid, 188 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: healthcare welfare. That is where most of the differential comes in. 189 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: And then it's the major no surprise, what would be 190 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: covered in the public sector unions, the major bureaucracies, you know, 191 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 2: education bureaucracy, retire re pensions for those systems, which are 192 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: absolutely just pattern and luxurious for a lot of these things. 193 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they've had to do these stories 194 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: about like retired Metro North workers who are making like 195 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: two hundred grand for waking up and they're on disability 196 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: as a retired Metro North worker, but they're going jet 197 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: skiing every weekend and they're in their fifties. I mean, 198 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: the whole thing is as a total, I'm exaggerating a 199 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: little bit, but the whole thing was such a scam 200 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: and Clay, you know, I think the big debate now, 201 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: because they're trying to use the pressure of the moment, 202 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 2: is well, let's give work off the orization to the 203 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: illegals in New York. I think after their process initially 204 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: for or they register for their asylum processing in one 205 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: of these centers that have been said refugee camps. These 206 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: are refugee camps. Everybody asylum refugee, same process, basically, the 207 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 2: only difference is where you apply for it. So we 208 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: have refugee camps operating in New York City, but I 209 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: think they have to wait six months before they can 210 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: get a work permit under the current statute. And this thing, 211 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: all these statutes, all these laws. Some they enforce, some 212 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: they don't, some they interpret, some they don't. I mean, 213 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: it's really the whole thing is such a mess because 214 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: they're doing this all in bad faith. The notion that 215 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: these individuals they're going to be first of all, they're 216 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: going to be competing for jobs at the lower end 217 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: wage of the scale with other people who are already 218 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: in the state of New York, which will depress wages. 219 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: People say it won't. That's always not true. And beyond 220 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: that that they would be contributing markedly. They're not going 221 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: to pay income taxes. You're not gonna you don't really 222 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: pay in come taxes. If you make twenty five a year, 223 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: that's what you get from the government. 224 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: Half of the United States population pays zero in state 225 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: in income taxes. 226 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: So so if you're an illegal this notion all you 227 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: just want the illegals to contribute. You have these these 228 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: business owners who are saying, I read about this over 229 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: the I mean I read the debates over the weekend 230 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: on this business owners. Oh, I would love to hire them. 231 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: What about just paying higher wages for the people who 232 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: already live in your state. There's a lot of people 233 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: in New York. What what What is the situation in 234 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: which somebody won't do a job unless they're an illegal 235 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: who just arrived here. Probably one in which there's a 236 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: degree of economic exploitation involved because they're in a insecure 237 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: circumstance because they're not legally even allowed to be in 238 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 2: the country. So, you know, the mess, It just cascades, right, 239 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: The whole thing just gets worse and we get deeper 240 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: into this, And I honestly just think Democrats are at 241 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: the point now where they view this as the last 242 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: push to collapse or immig our immigration system entirely get 243 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: a mass amnesty done. If Biden were to win another 244 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: term and they were to get people say oh, oh 245 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: they need sixty, they will change they will change the 246 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: filibuster rule. Folks. They do not need sixty if they 247 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: have fifty one Senate seats and a majority in the House, 248 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: and Biden wins. God forbid, all these things happen. Amnesty 249 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: is the is the is the end of the Republican 250 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: Party and everybody. I think everybody knows it. If they 251 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: really get it, it's all over. I mean, you'll have 252 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: a political realignment, a shift that will make the country 253 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: unrecognizable politically, and then we'll deal with all the other 254 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: ramifications of it as well. So I think the stakes 255 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: are pretty high, Clay, no doubt. I think it's kind 256 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: of a big deal. I know, pretty fired up about it. 257 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: As people can tell. 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We're 280 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: about to be joined by our friend Frank Siller, who 281 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: is going to talk about today being the twenty second 282 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: anniversary of nine to eleven and what he in the tunnel. 283 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: The Towers Foundation has done such an incredible job of 284 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: which is helping to ensure that all of not only 285 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: the individ rules who were impacted by nine to eleven 286 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: and all of their families to be taken care of, 287 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: but also he's expanded the overall roadmap of what their 288 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: incredible organization is doing. And he's now being able to 289 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: take control of so many people out there who are 290 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: first responders, who are members of the military, who are 291 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: police officers, who are also having their families impacted. And 292 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: that's because so many of you out there have done 293 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: a fabulous job of helping him to do what is 294 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: such an important job. And I want to mention this 295 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: as we go in to talk to Frank Siller here momentarily, 296 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's not in the United States for nine to eleven. 297 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: They actually sent Kamala Harris to the nine to eleven 298 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: remembrance ceremonies today, and the always well spoken Kareem John 299 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: Pierre was asked, wait, why isn't the president actually in 300 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: the continental United States? Instead, he's in Alaska. 301 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: Listen. 302 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: He plans to honor the line lost in the families 303 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: and loved ones who still feel the pain of the 304 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: terrible day. 305 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: This is something he feels it's very important to do. 306 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: We can only imagine the heartbreak and the pain that 307 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: the nine to eleven families have felt every day for 308 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: the past two toy two years. 309 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: So he's at Alaska Buck, What do you think about 310 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: Biden not being present in the continental United States as 311 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: virtually every president has been for the last twenty two years. 312 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: It seems strange to me because it creates you know, 313 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: Biden always thinks first and foremost about how this will 314 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: play in the press, and you know, I guess he 315 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: would say, we'll sending Kamala Harris in my place is somehow, 316 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: you know, sufficient in this case. But I think at 317 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: some level, maybe it's just we should never leave out 318 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: the possibility that they're making a mistake. I mean, I 319 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: think this is a mistake. 320 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 321 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: I don't know how long it'll last. I don't know 322 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: if it'll make a big difference in perception. But I 323 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: think that people look at this to say, I mean, 324 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: this is the same guy who when Marines were returned 325 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: home after being killed in action giving their lives for 326 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: their country in Afghanistan. Parents, and this just happened recently. 327 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: They know the discussions about this. Parents were saying Biden 328 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: looked like he was in a hurry when when the 329 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: you know, when the caskets came home of the he 330 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 2: looked at his watch, He looked at his watch. He 331 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: was like, I got other things to do, which I 332 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: think does at some level get to I mean, Joe 333 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: Biden is a He is a callo and indifferent and 334 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: narcissistic person, and he's not a political genius at all. 335 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: So I, Clay, I just think this is nothing but 336 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: downside for him is my I'm I can't. I can't 337 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: think of this as anything other than what is he 338 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: doing unless they're trying to set what? What message are 339 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: they trying to send? Seems very strange to. 340 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: Me, seems incompetent and also panicked, and then be like, well, 341 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: let's get him on American soil. We'll have him in 342 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: Alaska so we can at least argue he's year for 343 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: nine to eleven. 344 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: It seems very strange. 345 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: One of the best feelings after stepping out of the 346 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: shower getting yourself in a uh, you know, cozy absorbent towel. 347 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: It feels amazing. 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I think I refer to 365 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 2: Biden as callow. I meant to say shallows or kallis 366 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: or both. He is those things. He's definitely not callous. 367 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 2: But that's inexperienced. Even if I'm even if I'm on 368 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 2: the train of thought. Play can't say a word that 369 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: doesn't apply. Got to get the definitions always tight here 370 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: on the show. So a quick editor, A quick edit 371 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: to that no, not a proviso an edit to that. 372 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: We have our friend Frank Siller with us now. He's 373 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 2: the founder and CEO of Tunnel to Towers Foundation, which 374 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: does amazing work. Frank, thank you so much for being 375 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: with us. It's the anniversary of nine to eleven. It's 376 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: a solemn day, a day of remembrance for the whole country. 377 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: Just first off, tell us, if you would, how things 378 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: are going today with the foundation. What are things that 379 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: Tunnel to Towers is doing, and what are your thoughts? 380 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, my thoughts, and thank you for 381 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 5: having me on. And it's important for me to talk 382 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 5: about my brother Steven, the UFC firefighter who twenty two 383 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 5: years ago gave up his life, you know, while saving others. 384 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 5: And you know, so many great stories of heroism and 385 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 5: acts of courage and selflessness, and these stories have to 386 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 5: be told. And my brother, you know, ran for the 387 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 5: Brooklyn Battery tunnel with sixty pounds of five gear on 388 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 5: his back to get Dick because the tunnel was closed 389 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 5: for security reasons. And he was just off too, you know, 390 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 5: he was on his way home after working his night 391 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 5: tour and and you know, I had a call to 392 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 5: duty and you know, tunnel was closed, but he put 393 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 5: his gear on his back and ran through that tunnel 394 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 5: up the West Street to the South Tower and went 395 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 5: up those up that tower. While saving lives, he gave 396 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 5: up his own. And you know, we decided as a 397 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 5: family to start a foundation in his honor, which is 398 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 5: called Tunnel to Towers and rightfully South because he ran 399 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 5: through the tunnel to the Towers. And you know, the 400 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 5: work we're doing, it's it's incredible. We're proud of it. 401 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 5: We have so many people that have joined us automission 402 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 5: with taken care of what I say is the greatest 403 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 5: of all Americans. Those were willing to die if you 404 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 5: and I and all too often do first responders, police officers, 405 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: fire fighters, and certainly are military who always put their 406 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 5: lives on the line. And when they do die and 407 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 5: they leave young kids behind to the Talents Foundation, we're 408 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 5: going to deliver them a mortgage free home. 409 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: Frank, can you believe it's been twenty two years? And 410 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: for people out there who may not be aware, how 411 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: many families have you directly impacted in those twenty two 412 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: years who have lost loved ones and you've helped as 413 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: you just said, mortgage free homes. What's the total number 414 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: of famis You may not even know. I bet you 415 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: have a rough idea I do of how many people 416 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: you've made a difference for. 417 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 5: I know it's over a thousand mortgage free homes we've delivered. 418 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 5: Many of them are smart homes. The catastrophically injured service 419 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 5: members or first responders that you know like double triple, 420 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 5: quadruple amputees, poarwapolitics, quadripolitic traumatic brain injury. You know, those 421 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 5: have suffered so much, the most catastrophically injured we've delivered, 422 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 5: you know, so many of those homes. And they're not inexpensive. 423 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 5: I mean, you can imagine what we have to put 424 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 5: into them to make sure that they get their some 425 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: of their independence back in their life so they don't 426 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 5: have to ask their loved ones. They can't take us 427 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 5: to make them a cup of coffee or to do 428 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 5: something on a stove or go to a bathroom or 429 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: take a shower that they needed to help. No, we 430 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 5: put state of the art technology and all these homes. 431 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 5: And then you know some you know first responders. You 432 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: see all the police officers that you know that are 433 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 5: ambush killed, and you know whether it's that way or 434 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 5: the or they you know, are doing their job and 435 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 5: they die in the line of duty and they leave 436 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 5: young families behind. We're going to make sure that everyone, 437 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 5: everyone in America as a young family left behind. We're 438 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 5: going to pay off their mortgage. But if they don't 439 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 5: have a home, we're going to build them a home. 440 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 5: So you know, once again it's over a thousand, but 441 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 5: there's so much more. So you know, we twenty two today, 442 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 5: we paid off twenty two. We delivered twenty two mortgage 443 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 5: free homes today. Why today twenty two, Well, it's the 444 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 5: twenty second anniversary and we decided as a family that 445 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 5: we're going to make sure that people realize that goodness 446 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 5: always triumphs over evil. And we took this day especially 447 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 5: to make sure that we did something good on this day. Yes, 448 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 5: we know the horrific what these terrorists did. They killed. 449 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 5: If they killed more Americas, they'd even be happier, but 450 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 5: how many acts of heroism that day. We got to 451 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 5: honor it. We got to honor it by doing good 452 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 5: and that's why twenty two homes were given away. 453 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: Today we're speaking to Frank Stiller, founder and CEO of 454 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: Tunnel the Towers Foundation and Frank, you know, it's because 455 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: we're so many years past the event, there is this 456 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: there's a generation now that doesn't really have memory of it, 457 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: doesn't really have the experience of what it was that day. 458 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: Do you have concerns that there's a sense that some 459 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 2: are starting to forget the significant of nine to eleven 460 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: and what can be done so that people understand this 461 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: not only does the heroism the sacrifices of that day, 462 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: but also the lessons for the nation. 463 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, I couldn't agree with you more and that's 464 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 5: why we have a nine to eleven Institute. We have 465 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 5: a curriculum for K for K through twelve. Well, you 466 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 5: can go to T two T dot org download it 467 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 5: and you can be a parent that can download it, 468 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 5: or a teacher or a school can download age appropriate 469 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 5: and learn the stories of nine to eleven told by 470 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 5: some of the great heroes that live that lived that 471 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 5: day and they lost their friends and their brothers and 472 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 5: their co workers. You know. It's and then we have 473 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 5: a nine to eleven mobile exhibit that goes all over 474 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 5: the country ninety three foot track to trailer. It opens 475 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 5: up to eleven one hundred square foot museum which we 476 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 5: have all different artifacts in the and stories of nine 477 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 5: to eleven told by five fighters that lived that day. 478 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 5: Once again, we have over to we have a speakers 479 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 5: bureau that we have over two hundred firefighters that goes 480 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 5: go around the country first all year long and speak 481 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 5: of nine to eleven. So it's important that we never 482 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 5: forget and not just like you said, because so many 483 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 5: stories like my brother and I could tell you so 484 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 5: many great stories of great heroes. But to make sure 485 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 5: it doesn't happen again, because these Islamic terrorists if they 486 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 5: put a zero after twenty nine hundred and seventy seven, 487 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 5: if you know, if it was two twenty nine, seven 488 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 5: hundred and seventy, they would have been even happier, you know, 489 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 5: as many zeros at the end. They would have been estatic. 490 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 5: So you know there are people out there that we'll 491 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 5: try it again. And said to say, you know, I 492 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 5: saw a Homeland Security guy, the mayorcus this morning down 493 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 5: the ground zero. I pointed right at him and I said, 494 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 5: closed the border. I mean I yelled at him. And 495 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 5: it's not just because all the legals that are coming 496 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 5: in here, it's because of terrorists that are coming here. 497 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 5: You don't think that these terrorists that want to harm 498 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 5: us are coming across the border and be impatient and 499 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 5: waiting and trying to put together another plan like nine 500 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 5: to eleven. You better believe they are. And if you don't, 501 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 5: you're a fool. Uh. And this is why we got 502 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 5: to make sure that we tell the story so it 503 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 5: doesn't happen again. 504 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Frank, I'm going to be up there with you next 505 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: month in a much less serious vein. Neither you nor 506 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: I are going to be winning the US Open golf 507 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: tournament anytime soon, but we're. 508 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 5: Going wait wait, wait, wait, put me in your category. 509 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: But you know, Frank is a far better golfer than 510 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: I am. But we are going to be raising money 511 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: up in the New York City area. I don't know 512 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: if you have any spots left, but for that huge 513 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: golf tournament maybe next year. People want to be involved. 514 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: Tell them how they could be involved in that next month. 515 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 5: Well, so it is already sold out. They have to 516 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 5: go online for next year. And I don't know exactly 517 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 5: what we're doing it, but you know, we have great 518 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 5: people like yourself that are willing to give us your 519 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 5: time and your talent, your energy and your platform to 520 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 5: spread the word. You know, I have Cole Houser that's coming, 521 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 5: Mark Wahlberg and as Quaid, Andy petted, David Wells. You know, 522 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 5: David Wells was in the news the other day, you know, 523 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 5: you know, talking about what's right. You know, he's a 524 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 5: very outspoken person. Besides pitching a perfect game for the Yankees. 525 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 5: So you know, we have so many beautiful people while 526 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 5: he joining and by the way, a lot of these 527 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 5: people put golf outings on for us all over the 528 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 5: country while he Joyner is putting I think five golf 529 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 5: outings next year, celebrity golf oightings in different states for 530 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 5: tunnel to talents to raise money for US. David Wells 531 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 5: has the golf outing in Tampa in October sixth and seventh, 532 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 5: celebrity golf outing, you know, you know, where as Johnny 533 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 5: Damon and Jeff Nelson and many of these great talent, 534 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 5: you know, athletes are coming to David's outing and they 535 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 5: keep on. They raised all this money for us. You 536 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 5: know why, because of our mission, Because of our mission, 537 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 5: and we're going to raise a lot of money in 538 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 5: October to take care of these houses and to take 539 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 5: care of these great heroes, but we count on the 540 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 5: goodness of everyday Americans and I'm not you know, I 541 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 5: don't like talking about money on a daylight today by 542 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 5: any means. I want to talk about more that Like 543 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 5: you're lending your talent, like I said before, your name 544 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 5: and your platform to come and spread the word of 545 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 5: the goodness and the good that the Tunnel to Talis 546 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 5: Foundation is doing. Final note. We are successful because of 547 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 5: the work we're doing. It's plain and simple taking care 548 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 5: of these great families. If the Tunnels to Talis Foundation enough, 549 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 5: my first mission is to never forget, and that's exactly 550 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: why I'm on the phone with you today. Remember my 551 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 5: brother what he did. He was married, five kids, gave 552 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 5: his life. He was the youngest of seven siblings. He 553 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 5: was my youngest. He was my little brother, you know, 554 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 5: and my parents died by the time he was ten 555 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 5: years old, so we raised him. He was as much 556 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 5: a son to me and to my siblings as he 557 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 5: was a brother. And this is why I am on 558 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 5: the phone with you. But we are successful because of 559 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 5: the work we are doing, plain and simple, taking care 560 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 5: of these great families. And I can't thank you enough. 561 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: Clay and Buck for having me on today. And let 562 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 5: me tell a little, just a little bit about my 563 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 5: brother Stephen, who my heart breaks. I don't care how 564 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: many years it is, my heart breaks. I miss him 565 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 5: so much. 566 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: Frank Stiller, Frank, we really appreciate you. The whole country 567 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: appreciates the work you do and we're honored to be 568 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: part with you and continuing to help you with that work. 569 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 570 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 5: Thank you. God bless you all. God bless all these 571 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 5: families that lost their loved ones and ones that died 572 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 5: in nine to eleven illness and the seven thousand it 573 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 5: died ever since in the Global War. It's a lot 574 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 5: of families affected by what happened on September eleven, two 575 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 5: thousand and one. Let us never forget. 576 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Frank. Look, everybody, it's true. Talented Towers has 577 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: been our sponsor since day one of this program and 578 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: prior to that there with Rush for years. Frank is 579 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: a big part of the Clay and Buck extended family, 580 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: and together along with this audience, we will never forget. 581 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: If you watched any of the covers this morning at 582 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the site where 583 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: flight ninety three went down over Pennsylvania. One thing that 584 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: really stood out were all the young people reading the 585 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: names of those we lost, names of brothers, sisters, parents, 586 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: even grandparents they never met. It was powerful and really 587 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: underscores the importance of making sure that future generations are 588 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: educated about our nation's darkest day. This is why the 589 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: Talented Tower Ours nine to eleven Institute was launched to 590 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: help educate kids in kindergarten through twelfth grade about nine 591 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: to eleven. Their nonfiction first person accounts are told through 592 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: videos and a captivating book series. These accounts are moving 593 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: and unparalleled. Kids will not forget these true and critically 594 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: important stories. The institute offers full curriculum units with scripted 595 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: social studies, lessons, activities, and background for teachers. Included in 596 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: that is a Speaker's bureau for classrooms with access to 597 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: nine to eleven first responders, survivors and loved ones. To 598 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: never forget. We must educate future generations help our nation 599 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: honor its vow. There's a data decide to donate eleven 600 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: dollars a month to Tunnel the Towers. It's today to 601 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: honor those affected. Join us in doing so at T 602 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: two T dot org. Clan I donate every month. Please 603 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: join us if you can t the number two t 604 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: dot org. 605 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Learn laugh and join us on the weekend on our 606 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: Sunday Hang with Clay and Fuck podcast, Fight It on 607 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcast. Yes, 608 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 609 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. You just heard from 610 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: Frank Siller, who I really do want to impress upon 611 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: you has done more, I think to help people impacted 612 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: by nine to eleven than almost any private individual in 613 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: the country. And then to expand that you heard him 614 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: say over a thousand mortgage free homes to people who 615 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: have been injured defending our nation is really an incredible 616 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: testament to how hard that he works. And on this day, Buck, 617 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: I was asking you this off air. It's crazy to 618 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: believe that it's been twenty two years since nine to eleven. 619 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: If we were to unfortunately have a terror attack like 620 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: this again, which there are people out there every single 621 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: day trying to make things like nine to eleven happen 622 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: because they hate America, they hate everything that we represent 623 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: and stand for. In the immediate aftermath of nine to eleven, 624 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: there was I think for most of you out there, 625 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: probably certainly in my life, the greatest groundswell of American 626 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: patriotism and unity that has ever occurred in my life. 627 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: I bet you would agree that's the biggest that ever 628 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: occurred in your life. And obviously you're a New York 629 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: City native, so this is the striking at your very hometown. 630 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: How would a nine to eleven like attack play today 631 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: in terms of unity? Would we have national unity like 632 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: we did twenty two years ago? Or do you think 633 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: it would immediately become a political a political issue because 634 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: people would say, oh, you know, we can't demonize. 635 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: I feel like I don't think the unity. I don't 636 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: think the political unity after nine to eleven lasted for 637 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: very long. To be honest with you, I mean I 638 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: and maybe because I went to a college where the 639 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: all campus meeting involved a lot of criticism of US 640 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: foreign policy while people were finding out that loved ones 641 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: were gone. Yeah, that actually happened. And then a few 642 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: weeks afterwards, there was a flag burning on my campus. 643 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: It was written up in the Boston Globe. A bunch 644 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: of people, I don't know ten fifteen, twenty of them 645 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: got together all burning American flags specifically in response to 646 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: a unity rally after nine to eleven. There. 647 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: Now, I will say, I think that experience that you 648 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: had I was in Nashville is different, like everybody's experience 649 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: is different. I think you probably dealt with the most 650 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: leftist response. What I would say, though, is that leftist 651 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: response would be magnified through social media far more significantly 652 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: than it was then. And I wonder what the national 653 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: unity would look like and whether we would almost even 654 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: have it. 655 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: And there was a lot of interesting messaging too. I 656 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: mean you were hearing a lot about you know, Islamophobia 657 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: for example, or the mantra that Islam was a religion 658 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: of peace, and this was I mean, look, I was 659 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 2: the CIA, the kind of terrorism center went to a rock, 660 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: went to Afghanistan. So this is bringing back a whole 661 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: period of my life. And we were always getting really 662 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: lectures from from the left on how you know, it 663 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with Islam, And there was always 664 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 2: this sense that it was that the people who were 665 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: concerned about the ideological component were bad people. You'll notice 666 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: terror attacks against the US are down dramatically. Isis was 667 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: defeated by Trump, Thank you Trump. And there's no problem 668 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 2: of the Islamophobia wasn't something that was you know, you 669 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: don't hear about it anymore, which I think is interesting 670 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 2: as well. You don't hear about the war on terror anymore. 671 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: You don't hear about these concepts. But there was a 672 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: moment in time there where we were being told by 673 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: the country, certainly by the elites in this country, that 674 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: to question the idea, you know, the radical ideology, the 675 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: jihadist component within the it's a much broader debate, and 676 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: everything else within the jihatist or within the Islamic world 677 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: was somehow made you a bad person. That's the part 678 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: of this that I always remember is that if you're like, hey, 679 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: I think we have a problem here. I think there's 680 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: something coming from the Islamic world that we have to 681 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: address and that Muslims have to help us address, which 682 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: many of them did all over the world. You notice 683 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: we don't even talk about it anymore. You know, if 684 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 2: you told me ten years ago we wouldn't be speaking 685 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 2: about radical Islamic terrorism at all in the news, I 686 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: would have said, WHOA, I don't know. I don't know. 687 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: I think it's going to go on for decades. It's 688 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: faded almost entire When was the last time you saw 689 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: a story that was about Gihanna's terrorism, certainly against the 690 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: West or the you know, so this stuff can all 691 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: come back very quickly too. And I'm not sure we've 692 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: learned the lessons. I don't know. My feeling on a 693 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: clay is there's a lot that's you know, you look 694 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: at the Iraq War, you look at a lot of 695 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: the legacy of what happened after nine to eleven, and 696 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: where the lessons, where the lessons really learned? 697 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: And how long until the country faces another nine to 698 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: eleven like crisis and or challenge, because you know it's 699 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: going to happen. Hopefully it's a very very long time. 700 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: But the way we responded to COVID doesn't make me 701 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: optimistic about how we're going to respond to anything