WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Back Again 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.760 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:12.799 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:16.959 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:22.239 official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:30.200 and Mickey Spagnola, and we're finally back almost all of 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.840 us here on Mick Shots in the s WBC podcast 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:40.400 studio at the Star on this Monday. Mickey Spagnola, Everson 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:46.120 Walls joins me. Bill Jones off on his CBS eleven assignment. 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:53.120 Today's Landry Award Day for the high schools, and he's 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:58.320 busy doing all those things right, doing interviews. So Everson, 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.480 I will try to hang in here. It seems like 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.200 we haven't talked in a week. Well, yeah, it's almost 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.440 that way, right. Yeah, you and I talked though. We 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.800 talked on Friday. Yeah, I was trying to see if 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.360 we can get the show going, and and that was 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.480 good because I was driving at the time, so that 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.320 took up some time. Somebody said, what do you do 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.240 all the time when you're driving? I said, I call friends. No, 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.119 you were trying to Yeah, you were trying to make 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.479 us do your time with you. That's right. We can't 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.640 do your drive with you. So yeah, that's why the 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:30.600 show would not have worked. I was out of town. 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:32.839 You were out of the town. The last time we 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.600 had the show was Wednesday. Yeah, it's Monday, right. We 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.240 weren't ready for that. No, yeah, yeah, wait. The last 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.640 time I had the show was Tuesday. Oh, it was Tuesday. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.640 It was Tuesday. We had to hurry up. When I 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.200 picked the clicks, we had no idea. How do we do? 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.760 I did? Okay, let me see I have I had 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.040 thirty one way I'm looking through. I would have been 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.960 close if not for the Big Fat Man returning an intercept. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.680 He called himself it was the big Fat Man's dream, right, 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.040 interception returned for a touchdown, which, by the way, that 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.480 hadn't happened by a Cowboys defensive lineman since Jim Jeff 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.920 Coach tell me no, nineteen ninety nine, Greg Ellis, I 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.840 was gonna say, Jeff Jeff Jeff cot rumbled one back 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.320 and then back in the day, Larry Cole used to 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.600 always do pick sixes against the way at that time, 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:29.600 the Washington then Redskins he did, I believe consecutive years 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.000 had one he returned pick six. It was something crazy 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.120 like that. Guy. I was so young then, of course, 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:39.120 so it was Tuesday. So it was Tuesday. So what 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.320 do we got here? Here are we had held on? 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.480 Here's what we had for pick to click? I had 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:50.760 now Bill had sixteen thirteen and d Law was going 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.960 to be his pick to click. You had, no. I 0:02:55.040 --> 0:03:01.639 had Cowboys twenty four to sixteen. That's pretty good. Not close. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.760 Just look at that, okay, and I had Dak over 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.920 three hundred yards real close because he didn't get it, 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.079 you know, he didn't he didn't get it. And you 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:15.680 had twenty eight to twenty twenty three. I can't read 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.240 my chicken scratch and Gallup was your pick to click. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.880 So we didn't do so well on we put us 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:28.720 all together. We did ball five catchers. Yes he did, Yes, Yes, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.360 Dak did well except for the last. We could definitely 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.840 get into this. His last three possessions. I think he 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:36.720 must have gone and taken to hit us some weed 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:40.559 or something. Man. That was that was the most confusing 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:45.400 last three possessions I've seen, especially after seeing his excellence, 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.880 uh product to that. Yeah, just just putting them in there, 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.480 especially that one throw that went to like nobody. That 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.000 was a couple of those, right, And I don't know 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.280 if receivers or they weren't on the same page. I 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.640 have seen him bark at more receiver is now since 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:05.200 out this whole three game stretch of working with young guys, 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:09.160 working with side, working with Brown and uh and and 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.480 you know, I think he kind of he didn't like 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.960 doing that. He doesn't like doing that. So other than 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:19.560 our picks, your thoughts on winning that game on Thursday 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:23.919 night in New Orleans twenty seven seventeen. Okay, here's what 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.240 I here's I see when I when I listen, I 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.839 listened too much sports talk radio. I used to be 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.680 good at not listening to that crap, But since we're 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.200 part of that now, then I feel like I need to. 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.920 And the more educated part of it. Yeah, yeah, we 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.680 are the more educated part of I don't know what 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.640 the heck they're talking about out there in the streets, 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.960 but we always worry about how we went right. You know, 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.840 we gotta be perfect. Everything's you know, I'm nit picking 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.200 about the last three series. When he's making ceedee lamb, right, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.280 Dak is making ceedee lamb. Catch him? You know, I mean, 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.560 you either have no choice but to catch stuck inside 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.279 and stuck like any inside. I was. I was amazed 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.760 at that. And it wasn't like he was going for 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.400 the home run. He was taking what they give him, 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.039 which is how you got to play on the road, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.440 especially against a decent more than decent defensive team with 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.200 the Saints which came in and number three against the 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.600 run by the Let's look at the last three Super 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.880 Bowl seasons we've had, of course with the Eigman teams 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.560 of the Triplets and Michael Irvin, Emmy Smith, the defense 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.440 that we had at the time, including Dion and Charles Haley, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:31.559 Ken Norton Junior. This is you know, they always wont ugly. 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.040 They always won ugly, and no one had any complaints. 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.479 There were times when you know, you might try, might 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.360 throw for two D fifteen yards and they but they 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.479 were good to fifteen and you had Emmy doing this thing. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.000 We were riding. We were riding that Emmy Smith wave, 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:51.040 were riding that train, and we were okay with that defense. 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.800 Every once in a a while give up something stupid, but 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.640 overall they had the game in the bag. Right. This 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.479 is how this game was. And and when you think 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.560 of all the things that were piled up against him 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:08.120 going into that game, right, two game losing streak, had 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:12.800 lost three of the last four the stadium, right in 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.279 the NFL. And then you had to deal with COVID 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.839 last week. So they really didn't They had like maybe 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:24.880 one full practice, uh, losing players, losing the coaching staff. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.320 And and this was what when I did my radio 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.920 segment on Friday, which by the way, I did stop 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:34.279 to do it. I quit driving seventy five miles an hour, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:39.640 right you hit. I got before that actually because I 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.040 hadn't got past the and I made those guys laugh. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.800 So I it was time to pull off. And it 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.479 was the Donaldsonville exit and I said, okay, this is 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:54.760 poetic justice because that's my dad's hometown. Wow. Right, that's 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.800 where he grew up, right, And that's the one I 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.360 was at when I pulled over, right. Uh. But anyway, 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.719 I was saying, look at all the things. They were No. 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:08.800 Neither of the offensive line coaches, right, Uh, their offensive 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:13.120 assistant Scott Tolzine, he was out with COVID. Two of 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.640 the three strength and conditioning coaches were out with COVID 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.960 for that game, and all three of them during the 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.600 week when they didn't they didn't open the weight room, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.400 virtual meetings. You don't have your head coach all this 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:32.720 going against him and playing the third game in twelve days. Yes, 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.240 that's the main thing. And this was this was a 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:40.320 tired I think team maybe mentally too. And they won. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.040 And so my lead, and I'm glad you brought it up, 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.760 was there's nothing wrong with an ugly win. And I 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:52.000 went back and you know, but you should because you 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.720 probably know what I'm going to write. So anyway, my 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:59.120 point was, and I brought this up in my column, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:04.960 I said. In nineteen eighty three, the Chicago White Sox 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:10.680 won the the Central Division, time team Central Division and 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.000 qualified for the American League playoffs for the first time 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:18.760 since nineteen fifty nine. And about the middle of the season, 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.920 and by the way, they ended up winning ninety nine 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.480 games and had a twenty game lead on the second 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.480 place team. Right the middle of the season, the Rangers 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:33.320 manager Doug Raider said that team wins ugly. Well guess what. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.960 That became their battle cry. And I found look what 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.679 I found here, Chris, And I don't know if you 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.760 winning ugly, how old is that thing? Nineteen eighty three. 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.920 It's yellow, right, Oh, yes it is. It's a little 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.480 dingy if you can't see. And that became their battle 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.520 cry and they had no problems winning ugly, like you know, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:03.160 get a walk, a bunt, base hit, a walk, a bunt, 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:07.640 a steel, a sacrifice flight, whatever it took to win, right, 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.840 and they that was their battle cry. And that's when 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.000 that first started winning ugly. But when you look at 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:18.160 this team, let's just remember how young it is. This 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.720 extremely young team. A veteran quarterback, what is he twenty seven? 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.280 I mean, you're talking about trying to lead a team 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.080 that can be somewhat temperamental. Dadn't know what it's like 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.800 to play this three game stretch. You know, when you 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.720 when you look at the veterans on this team, a 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.000 lot of them are getting nearly as much playing time 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.520 as the younger guys who don't know what it's like 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.800 to play through this. They were probably second teamers last 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.679 year on another team last year. Now they're going through 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.600 this stretch. This was a very unique stretch that's only 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:53.520 unique to the Dallas Cowboys themselves and whoever their opponents are. 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.000 So you got to look at this as a win, 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.160 just win, you know what I mean. Or win is 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.960 a win, and we, like I said, we can complain 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.640 all we want. I'd rather look at the good things 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.600 that we did. How many interceptions do we have for 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.000 four interset? And who got one of them? Oh my goodness, 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.880 my band got one of them? So now that's nine. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.920 That's nine. So yeah, that's nineteen eighty five. Yeah, he's 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:22.880 five games. Yeah that was Yeah, that was one of 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.960 my boyshears. So now that was that. That's something that 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.400 I can still brag about. And you know what, who 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.520 he hasn't caught yet? Right meyl renfrol Right had ten, 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.360 had ten. So let's not forget it. And as my 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.880 ego gets blown up as this goes on, let's not 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.559 forget man the guy that I always idolized and had 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.200 to catch up to myself. I think the last regular 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.840 season game against the Philadelphia Eagles, I broke the record. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.760 I think it was the last game against Philadelphia. So 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:55.520 you're looking at a guy all goddon before Dion uh 0:10:56.040 --> 0:11:00.880 His long jump was was Olympic quality, fine speed was 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:05.240 was was unmatched by any other defensive back. And he 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:09.400 was just a He had all of that with instincts. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.440 He didn't just come up on something because he has speed, 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.520 you know. He was kind of like Dion Toway. Not 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.080 only did he know where you were going already, he's 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.240 gonna beat you there. And so those are the kind 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.880 of players that were just unbeatable. So here you got 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:28.839 ten interceptions. That digs. That's his next hurdle and I've 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.120 been missing him because he hadn't gotten more. Was in 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:35.880 the last four games it had been. Now he well, 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:41.400 I can't think it's les last three games. He stuck 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.200 on it, and that's kind of how I was. I 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.920 believe after the I think it was the Dolphins game 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.319 of the Vams game in eighty one for a while. Man, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.560 he just gotta play some solid ball, you know. And 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.520 that's what he was doing. Because they had an under 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.920 over coverage on that. He was the under guy and 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.520 Taysom Hill didn't read it because he thought he was 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.840 lobbing one to a wide open guy and he was 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.560 trailing underneath and was able to pick it off. So 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.439 he became one of four players in the NFL since 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.319 twenty ten to have at least nine interceptions. The most 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.640 was Xavian Howard ten I believe last year, last year 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:22.640 also Texas. Also J. C. Jackson had nine last year, 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.160 and then Tim Jennings I think it was two thousand 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.920 and ten, eleven somewhere in there had nine. See, they 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.600 don't want to go too far back because I would 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.040 call Mark, call you. Yeah, there was a lot of guys. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.920 There was a there was a list this log of 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:42.560 had nine. Nine. Yeah. So so yeah, so anyway, four 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:47.760 interceptions U pick six by the big guy going twenty 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:52.040 nine yards to seal the game that was still in doubt. 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.959 Right at some point, you got to win these games, 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.320 you know. I keep saying that, and no one seems 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.920 to believe it. Uh. Now we'll go four written. We'll 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.520 see if the things that everybody was upset about, you know, 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:09.080 was that game or they've got big problems, but it 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.400 was a win. Uh. They're eight and four with a 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:16.520 two game lead in the NFC East, and there's only 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:21.040 I think, if I remember correctly, two teams that have 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.080 a better record than them in the NFC. I think 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:28.440 in the NFL the Packers in the car and the Cardinals, 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.559 right everybody else right in the NFL and in the NFL. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:37.120 So eight and four, Uh, my guess is had had 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.160 they won eight games last year, they would have won 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.320 the NFC East, And now they got five games to go, right, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:47.719 so progress, right, and and again they can't win the 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:52.440 Super Bowl in week thirteen. You got to play this 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.840 thing out. Uh, And well it's always sounds so easy 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.840 to criticize because we're not out there playing. Yeah, and 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:00.640 most of the people doing the says they hadn't he 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.240 ever played ball in their lives, but they know what 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.679 it looked, what good ball looks like, so therefore they 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.160 think they're experts. And it didn't look good, but it 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:14.000 was a victory. It was after all that. Right. It's 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.319 like I tried to explain the guys all week long, 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.680 what did we talk about, Well, how's it going to 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.360 affect this team that Mike McCarthy's not there as the 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.720 head coach. How's it going to affect this team that 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.480 Dan Quinn has to do both manage the game as 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.920 the head coach but also called the defense and not 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.440 from up above where he's used to doing it on 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.800 the sideline. Right, what's it going to be like when 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.920 they come off the field on offense, who's going to 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.880 talk to the offensive line because neither of the offensive 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.480 line coaches or if it was so easy to just 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.600 switch hats like that, to just change hats and wear 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:53.320 different hats, then the greatest defensive coordinators are offensive coordinators 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.280 that have gotten head coaching jobs. Then they should have 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.240 automatically been Super Bowl winners right right off the bat. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.520 Most the times it does not work out. And so 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.960 that's the difficulty that you're talking about facing being an 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.920 offensive coordinator. Defensive coordinators totally difference from being a head coach. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.400 Everyone can't do that. And it's not like you just 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.320 roll it out there and say, Okay, you just put 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.800 one coach downstairs and another coach upstairs and that's it. No, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.960 it's about being comfortable and where you are the best 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.520 at doing your job. Dan Quinn's better at being a 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.200 defensive coordinator when he's up in the booth, right, And 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.640 that's just all it is. You can't be that same 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.640 defensive coordinator when you're not using your own eyes and 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:38.120 ears to see from upstairs. And you basically had Ceedee 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:42.160 Lamb coming back was the second he missed the game 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.560 and a half missed the game and a half Amari Cooper. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.880 Now Cooper ends up playing, and we said that he 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.280 would play, but not as he only played twenty four snaps, 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:57.120 but he had one huge catch, right, Lamb ended up 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.960 with sixty two out of seventy snaps. He about played, 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:06.960 uh the entire game. Um, and punts didn't Initially yes, 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:11.160 he did, he didn't have Cedric Wilson was huge basically 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:15.120 that fourth, fourth, three, right, and that's why he was 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.680 returning those initial puts. Uh. And then they put digs 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.440 back for the one boy. When it started, it looked 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.920 good and then it just kind of right. That was 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.040 the twelve yards though, right. Well, exactly, so they were 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.400 up against a whole bunch. DeMarcus Lawrence playing for the 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.640 first time since the season opener. They had a pitch 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.720 count on him, and I remember asking him after the game, Um, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.480 so did you play more than the pitch count? He goes, yeah, 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.520 I wasn't counting, but I got a feeling I did well. 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.360 He played thirty seven snaps, but you know what they were, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.120 thirty seven? Really he was impactful, Yeah, really impactful snaps. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:57.000 You're you're exactly right. Uh so when you look at 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:01.240 all that what they were facing, uh, and a quarterback 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.480 that would rather run the ball than throw it. You know, 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.679 there was a couple of plays where I don't know 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.080 if they were they were third downs, and it's like, well, 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.000 what did they think they were gonna do? He's gonna 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.080 run the ball, He's not throwing it. I think his 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.959 best running play is to actually attempt to pass and 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.280 then take off. That's that's when he's his most dangerous 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.560 because everything is spread it out for him. At Plus, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:28.200 they were fortunate he sprained his middle finger on his 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.639 throwing hand. He had a splint on it. Well, to 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.400 say fortunate is one thing. He was fortunate to get 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.760 out of there sometimes, right, So yeah, to say that 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.080 he's fortunate to be able to use his hand because 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.560 the pressure was coming. It wasn't just like it was 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.359 the one time we had pressure he happened to be 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.159 throwing the ball. No, he was under duress almost the 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.520 entire game. So when I talk about the team, some 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:54.479 of my favorite gut teams, pittsburghs Ravens, you know how 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.320 they win games under these weird conditions and you're like, 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.200 you know how they pull that off. This wasn't quite 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:05.400 that for the Cowboys, but you definitely had some adverse 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:10.000 conditions that could have easily led two excuses to lose 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.520 this ball game. So that's how I feel like we 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:18.800 matured this week. The Cowboys had two sacks, they had 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:23.480 six tackles for losses, they had six quarterback hits. But 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.760 this was the key one passes defense. They had nine 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.359 right nine, So yeah, it wasn't pretty offensively, I get it. 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:36.439 They were two of thirteen on third down conversion. Seven 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:41.480 of their fourteen possessions were three and outs, and it 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.760 you know, basically, they scored twenty points as a matter 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:48.760 of fact, if you look at it in the last 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.119 in four of those last six games, they've scored twenty 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:58.160 sixteen nine and then twenty seven, but really twenty on offense. 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.960 And after the a five and one start, they've gone 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:06.160 three and three. So that average over those four games 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.840 I just mentioned eighteen points a game, and that's with 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.040 the twenty seven and the problem we have with that. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.879 What goes along with that on both sides is the 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.360 running game. We are not able to run and support 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.919 our passing game, and we are not able to stop 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:26.120 the run either, which keeps our offense off the field, right, 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.920 and that'll be big both of those in this next 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.639 game against Washington. We're just getting the customed to it. 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:34.480 That's what we're doing. We're getting ready for that. So 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.840 the totals, when you look at totals, you know, running 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.159 the ball, they were twenty four for one forty six, 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:46.679 but two of those runs were ninety one yards a 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.960 fifty eight yard touchdown run by Tony Pollard, and then 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:54.000 they called the task play to Cede lamb or run 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.359 instead of a catch and that was thirty three yards. 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.840 So I figured out they were twenty two for nine 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.560 d one or two and a half yards per carry. Well, 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.399 now let's let's remember I talked about this when we 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.159 played against the Bears for the sixth defense. Tom Landry 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.960 always talked about it's gonna be tough, guys. There's gonna 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.840 be many plays where you get zero or minus yardage, 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.879 but you have to look for the break. The break 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.760 is gonna come, but you gotta continue to do your job. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.480 And it's like I talked about with those stubborn teams, 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.560 we have to remain stubborn. We can't just give up 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.000 on the run just because they stop it. Then we'd 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.920 be like Seattle against New England and the Super Bowl. Oh, 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.600 we'll stacked up the line of scrimmage. We can't. We 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.000 can't think about running the ball on third and inches 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.240 or third and goal. You know, let's just throw the ball. Well, yeah, 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.840 that's what happened in Malcolm. Butler's a hero. So just 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.040 do what you're supposed to do. Be stubborn. 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