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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Total Podcast, brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 1: the official bank of the New York Giants. I'm Paul Tatino,

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Speaker 1: and we are very pleased to welcome in a very

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Speaker 1: special guest to today's program, two times Super Bowl champion

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Speaker 1: linebacker Gary Reasons. Now, folks, he's a member of the

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Speaker 1: College Football Hall of Fame, and he has so many

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Speaker 1: other accomplishments as an announcer, as a guy involved with

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Speaker 1: FCS football all for such a long time, as a businessman,

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Speaker 1: as a motivational speaker. Gary, It's great to have you here,

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Speaker 1: and I guess, well, all those things that you've done,

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Speaker 1: why a book and why now?

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Speaker 2: Paul Hayes. First of all, it's a great to be

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Speaker 2: with you and amongst all the Giants fans that are watching,

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Speaker 2: So thanks everybody. You know, Paul had kind of all

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Speaker 2: started with my career in New York and it really

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Speaker 2: kind of worked took off from there with a couple

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Speaker 2: of Super Bowl championships under coach Parson Els and we

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Speaker 2: had a great mentor as well with Bill Belichick. And

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Speaker 2: you take all those life lessons in those things that

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Speaker 2: I learned there, and plus you add thirty years in

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Speaker 2: the broadcast booth and business experiences. Along the way, I've

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Speaker 2: learned a lot of things, and what I've come to

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Speaker 2: understand is that that opportunity for me to learn is

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Speaker 2: now turning into what I want to do, and that

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Speaker 2: is transfer knowledge. I'll share some insights to some of

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Speaker 2: the things that I've experienced along my business career and

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Speaker 2: personal career and then share those outwardly to readers and

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Speaker 2: hopefully just give them a little bit of a sense

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Speaker 2: of how they can achieve things, perhaps in their own world.

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Speaker 2: So it's about me giving back, and this is what

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Speaker 2: it's all about.

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Speaker 1: All right. So the name of the book is Reasons

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Speaker 1: to Believe It inspirational path to winning, And certainly Gary

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Speaker 1: Reasons knows what it is to win a three time

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Speaker 1: All American at the one double A which has now

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Speaker 1: been transferred to the FCS level. Five postseason appearances with

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Speaker 1: those two Super Bowls in eight years with the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I've noted his whole career. I know what or where

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Speaker 1: he is, and I think, Gary, I'd like to know

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Speaker 1: when you formulated these types of philosophies and again, many

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Speaker 1: years as a motivational speaker, how much of it do

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Speaker 1: you think was rooted in football, and how much of

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Speaker 1: it do you think you would have come up with

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Speaker 1: had you gone into a different line of work and

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Speaker 2: You know, Paul, that's a great it's a great question,

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Speaker 2: and I think that a lot, very much, a large

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Speaker 2: portion of what I've brought out of sports. You know,

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Speaker 2: I've played all kinds of sports in high school, you know,

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Speaker 2: different different sports, but really sports and team and the

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Speaker 2: ability to work together, those were lessons that we learn.

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Speaker 2: And guess what, Paul, those things are transformable. Those things

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Speaker 2: you can use in your day to day life and

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Speaker 2: in business, and you can take those things forward. So

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Speaker 2: in my book Reasons to Believe, she have chapter by

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Speaker 2: chapter by chapter of the different takeaways from sports, from business,

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Speaker 2: my broadcast career, and I kind of give nuggets an

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Speaker 2: understanding of how these things affected me, and then I

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Speaker 2: share outwardly how people can implement them into what they

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Speaker 2: do and so it can be a tool and very

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Speaker 2: useful to them. So it's a fun read the book

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Speaker 2: for Reasons to Believe, And guess what, it's on Amazon

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Speaker 2: right now. It's live, so you can go and take

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Speaker 2: a look at it. Just search Garier Reasons on Amazon,

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Speaker 2: any of your platforms, and the book will come up.

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Speaker 2: It's Reasons to Believe. There's a couple of ways to

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Speaker 2: buy it. You can buy the kindle version for the

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Speaker 2: first forty eight hours. And I think this podcast is

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Speaker 2: going to come out right on Tuesday or launch day

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Speaker 2: of the twenty fourth of March, and it's only a

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Speaker 2: dollar forty nine. And the reason I gave it such

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Speaker 2: an incredible price is for everyone may just take it

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Speaker 2: and read it and enjoy it, and all the proceeds

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Speaker 2: and net proceeds are going to be donated to charity.

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Speaker 2: It's the Hope for Children Foundation there in the Northeast,

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Speaker 2: formerly the Tomorrow's Children's Fun But it's that's what it's

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Speaker 2: about giving back. So really it's about giving this information

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Speaker 1: Now, in addition to the book which is coming out today,

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Speaker 1: I also noticed that there's a corresponding YouTube video series.

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Speaker 1: You've been very active on social media with all of

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Speaker 1: the different types of tips that you're able to get people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all those little things and all those nuggets

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Speaker 2: the book is really kind of the polish on that.

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Speaker 2: And there's believe it or not, Paul, there's there's quite

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Speaker 2: a bit more. This may not be my first book

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Speaker 2: of this information that others can benefit from. And the

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Speaker 2: book is really geared towards anybody who's a competitor in sports,

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Speaker 2: could be parents, could be anybody. But really, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's got a Giants fan flavor there for sure, because

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Speaker 2: I tell some very unique stories that I've never told

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Speaker 2: before outside of in media or anything, and they're very

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Speaker 2: giant specific. So giant fans, you got a little little

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Speaker 1: All right Now, I understand the real lynch pin to

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Speaker 1: this entire motivational process and leadership type of discussion is

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Speaker 1: the yes framework. Which I guess if I understood correctly.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I saw you say in an

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Speaker 2: You know, it's all about setting goals and anybody, if

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Speaker 2: what I came up with was a very simple word,

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Speaker 2: and it's the word yes. And it's not you know,

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Speaker 2: just look at it vertically, why over E over S

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Speaker 2: But it's a way to structure it. See I use

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Speaker 2: It gives me the tools and resources and lays it out.

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Speaker 2: I taught chet GBT something. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: I think you better let ourselves though a little bit

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Speaker 3: something about that too well ourselves knows about especially about

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Speaker 3: this book. And thank you for mentioning a coach because

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Speaker 3: Bill was very gracious enough to write the forward of

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Speaker 3: the of the book for me. And so that's a

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Speaker 3: little treat for giants fans was afford by Bill Parcels

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Speaker 3: And thank you Bill.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you very much. Huddle up, get in here.

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Speaker 2: If you're lined up here, you gotta go over the

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Speaker 1: How do we make that happen?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but citizens does it makes sense of

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Speaker 1: You know what, I think that's incredibly important because I

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Speaker 1: remember when you came to the Giants as a rookie

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Speaker 1: he hits, he is a football player. Parcels. And some

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Speaker 2: It all plays together. And thank you for bringing up

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Speaker 2: As a linebacker and inside linebacker, I played right into

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Speaker 1: How important do you believe adversity is in terms of

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Speaker 1: the whole philosophical platform that you have? For example, when

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Speaker 2: So really, just with our draft class, and Carl Banks

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Speaker 2: came in with me. I was a fourth round draft pick.

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Speaker 2: It's Reasons to Believe. And the kindle version that e

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Speaker 2: I've got that. That's a mouthful for me because I

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Speaker 1: Well. Gary, we appreciate everything that you've done for the

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I couldn't find this anywhere else until

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Speaker 1: I Doug. I do believe that you are the only

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Speaker 2: Uh, Yes, there was a game in San Francisco where, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So for bringing that up, Paul's that's that's a pretty

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Speaker 2: good little nugget to know. A good old nineteen.

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Speaker 1: not win. Harry crushing that an interception for a touchdown

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Speaker 1: of that game. But Gary picked off Montana twice. Next

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Speaker 2: Gary. Well, no, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: Joe's had his success. We had ours, and you know

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Speaker 2: we're kind of moving down that path. We don't have

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Speaker 1: Indeed, and there were a lot of nightmares courtesy of

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Speaker 1: that big blue defense that is Gary Reason's two time

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Speaker 1: Giants super Bowl champion. The book is Reasons to Believe,

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Speaker 1: an inspirational Path to Winning. It is available through Amazon

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Speaker 1: right now and we hope that you get it copy

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Speaker 1: and enjoy it. Gary. Great talking to you once again,

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Speaker 1: and I wish you all the best as you continue

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Speaker 1: to move forward in your author's career.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Paul. I appreciate that everybody go to Gary

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Speaker 2: Reasons dot com you can see more information about RTV.

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Speaker 2: The rt B two fifty I'm gonna give away signed

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Speaker 2: then fill out the RTB form on Garyreasons dot com

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Speaker 2: and I'll get that scribed out to send it out

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Speaker 2: to you. First two fifty only it's all We're gonna

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Speaker 1: Paul is great to visit with your partner. Look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing you again. A training cap, folks. This has

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Speaker 1: been the Giants HTTLE podcast. Talk to you by Citizens

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Speaker 1: the official bank of the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: So long, everybody,