Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: Welcome sir.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: I think it's my first time on this show.
Speaker 3: Yes, first time on the bluele Care Podcast. Officially a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't know this, but the bluelet Care
Speaker 3: Podcast was supposed to be a drink champions That's right.
Speaker 1: We didn't have the network. Then we were trying.
Speaker 2: We met like three times, yes, and I know you
Speaker 2: was like trying to do this year. Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 2: You know. I'm a type of person to try to
Speaker 2: do everything.
Speaker 1: On my own, but I'm also now realizing that I can't,
Speaker 1: so I need help, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I partner with Randy Biggs and EFN and like we
Speaker 1: finally formed a conglomerate. And now so because one thing
Speaker 1: for short, two things for certain. As an artist, I
Speaker 1: try to like take care of everything. But then I realized,
Speaker 1: like I kind of like manage myself to to a
Speaker 1: certain extent, even though Biggs and Randy manage me, but
Speaker 1: day to day manage myself, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: but now we finally got it together, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, so we launched a drink network with
Speaker 1: Memphis Memphis Bleak. He's doing phenomenal. Thank you for trusting us.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because right now I give
Speaker 1: I give all podcasts to something right now, all people,
Speaker 1: all on air radio personalities right now, talking to NAS,
Speaker 1: talking to Jungle is way more powerful than talking to
Speaker 1: NAS right now, talking to Tony Yo, it's more powerful
Speaker 1: than talking to fifty cent. Right now, talking to Jim
Speaker 1: Jones is more powerful than talking to camera. Talking to
Speaker 1: Juwel's is more powerful than talking to cameraon right now
Speaker 1: because right now, if people are not understanding, it is the.
Speaker 2: Hour of the man next to the man.
Speaker 3: You're getting a perspective that like because you've heard I mean,
Speaker 3: there's how many fifty cent interviews are there?
Speaker 2: Yep? But when you're here Tony Yo's.
Speaker 1: Perspective exactly because he was there for all of this
Speaker 1: crazy shit, Like.
Speaker 2: You follow fifty cent.
Speaker 1: Like so if you follow fifty right and you can
Speaker 1: look at it, he's he's in all these luxurious places,
Speaker 1: but it's nothing to him. But you see Tony Yao
Speaker 1: and Uncle Murder, they make that shit look so much better,
Speaker 1: like they make this shit because it's like you could
Speaker 1: tell that they appre they're not twenty million, they're not
Speaker 1: one hundred million sold. So they're sitting there and they're
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, man, I want my steak well done.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, and to me, I would invest right now as
Speaker 1: a person who studying algorithms, I would invest in Tony Yoyo.
Speaker 1: Like if I had a chance to, I did.
Speaker 2: I did. I did. Because Hole's not gonna talk.
Speaker 1: So if Hole's not gonna talk, what what is the
Speaker 1: next best thing? And I'm telling you I've Jungle is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people to hang out with. Jungle
Speaker 1: describes Na's life in the way Nas cannot.
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Speaker 2: I sincerely believe.
Speaker 1: Nas Peter Steve Stout will not allow that to happen
Speaker 1: because Jungle knows where the bodies is. Yay Yo knows
Speaker 1: where the bodies are, right, Uncle Verta knows where the
Speaker 1: bodies are right, so on and so right. So these
Speaker 1: guys that's next to the guy. I'm telling you, it's
Speaker 1: worth just as much or if not even more. But
Speaker 1: that's that's the real hip hop stories, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like like Rockefeller, like I've been related to them.
Speaker 1: I mean, you were signed the Rockefeller, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: your Rekord album Change. Okay, you got the change perspective wise,
Speaker 1: we all thought you were big message of music currency Rockefeller, but.
Speaker 2: I never they were so rich at the time they
Speaker 2: didn't care about.
Speaker 1: Giving me a contract and just said you signed, and
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, no problem, and we just
Speaker 1: rolled with it, right and I just kept my paperwork.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like my point of bringing it up is, right now,
Speaker 1: these hip hop stories, like I thought, right now, we
Speaker 1: got another five to seven years of podcasting, and it's
Speaker 1: just it's gonna it's gonna, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's getting to the point.
Speaker 3: And like, I mean, look, I want to know your
Speaker 3: perspective because you were the first. I mean, obviously Joe
Speaker 3: Budden was was already moving, but I do feel like
Speaker 3: you kind of brought it an energy for the first
Speaker 3: time into the space that was like, you know, we
Speaker 3: see now like the Jada and Joe show, Fat Joe
Speaker 3: or Joe and Jada, The show's hilarious, hilarious, both hilarious.
Speaker 2: Both captain cats.
Speaker 3: It's I just love how Fat Joe talks eighty percent
Speaker 3: of the time and then the toy and then Kiss
Speaker 3: is just reacting.
Speaker 1: But that's you know, let me tell you why I
Speaker 1: like that. That's Fat Joe at dinner right like we
Speaker 1: could be El Molino's eleven thirty am. He wants to
Speaker 1: talk about shooting somebody in Trinity A f what the
Speaker 1: fuck shot Joe? Can you calm down? This guy right
Speaker 1: here owns the fucking Knicks. This guy over here, fucking right,
Speaker 1: he owns the New York City.
Speaker 2: Blimps, right right, right right.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about one time I shot a person
Speaker 1: in the face of school, in front of the teacher. Joe,
Speaker 1: stop my brother, Joe. Yes, but he's crazy. You were
Speaker 1: on vacation. He's he's just liked that. And that's why
Speaker 1: Joe and Jada works is because that's exactly who Joe
Speaker 1: is and that's exactly who Jada is.
Speaker 3: It's funny because you know, Joe's tried to do the
Speaker 3: pod thing before. Yeah, I think that this is the
Speaker 3: perfect dynamic.
Speaker 2: Though you you.
Speaker 1: Could, you can you can this this This is the
Speaker 1: reason why you can tell that it's a rock Nation play,
Speaker 1: but you can tell that making the best of it,
Speaker 1: Like you can tell like this is something that like
Speaker 1: you know, Rock Nations probably wanted to get in the
Speaker 1: podcast because you can't ignore this podcast money, right man.
Speaker 1: You can't like whether you say it's infasciated or whatever,
Speaker 1: you can't ignore that. You know, look at these people
Speaker 1: that they're doing numbers in their family, so they wanted
Speaker 1: though they had in the ring. It's a it's a dope.
Speaker 1: They're both rock Nation artists. I can see Desirettions name
Speaker 1: written all over this, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I can see rock Nation written all over it, right?
Speaker 1: Uh So they take take Jada, they take Joe. They
Speaker 1: put them together and they tell them to be theirself,
Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of yeah, it's kind of dope.
Speaker 1: And it's in the sneaker store. You can smell the
Speaker 1: Jordan's behind you, you know what I mean. You can
Speaker 1: see the artwork. So I think I think that it works,
Speaker 1: and I think I think it's dope that artists because
Speaker 1: because Jada was a mysterious guy.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, kisses not like we know kiss to be
Speaker 3: like hilarious because like we no kiss, but like he's
Speaker 3: not like out there on social media like that, right,
Speaker 3: you know, Like then you get.
Speaker 2: To see that kiss went to private school. You like
Speaker 2: what Right're like?
Speaker 1: Yo, you so more coked than fucking scarface, Right, you
Speaker 1: have time to go to private school, bro, Like and
Speaker 1: you avoided jail, Like this is crazy, Like your bars
Speaker 1: did not avoid jail. Right, your your lyrics has been
Speaker 1: locked up for twenty five years. For twenty five years,
Speaker 1: your lyric's been locked up. Bro.
Speaker 2: You it's just you home.
Speaker 1: So I just love that they being there being them,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's who they.
Speaker 3: That conbo about like flying flying first class. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 2: Can't do it. Like what you mean you can't do it?
Speaker 2: Are you? Are you like that where you can't fly
Speaker 2: unless it's first class.
Speaker 1: I'm scarred. I'm scarred. I was down with management company
Speaker 1: called Valado Chris Recipes, Chris Lighty and big up to
Speaker 1: my boy Mike Lighty.
Speaker 2: By Layer album is solid, by the way, it's on
Speaker 2: both albums.
Speaker 1: I got both flacks. Well, Mike Lighty, who was my
Speaker 1: role manager if it was Mike Lighty later went on
Speaker 1: to become gu and This road manager. And Mike Lighty
Speaker 1: always says, if I didn't go through the Norway school,
Speaker 1: I would have never survived the day in the g
Speaker 1: Unit school, right.
Speaker 2: So Mike Lighty.
Speaker 1: Would have this thing where he would get me there
Speaker 1: by any means necessary. So at the time, this is
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, I'm into some shit, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: into I'm into smoking bud and he would lie to
Speaker 1: me to get me anywhere.
Speaker 2: So he'd be like, hey man, this is is bad
Speaker 2: bit just there. This, this is weed.
Speaker 1: This liquor, this is all this, And I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: I'll get there. There's nothing I would just tell you, yo,
Speaker 1: there's some hose over it.
Speaker 2: But I'm there.
Speaker 1: I gotta sign the autographs, right, I gotta do the
Speaker 1: instore right right boom. So Mike light of this reason
Speaker 1: why I'm bringing up the first class day. So Mike
Speaker 1: Lighty would just lie to me and be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta we gotta a flight to the
Speaker 1: room and I'll get to the airport and I'm in
Speaker 1: sixty seven Z you know what I'm saying. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: holy moly, GAMOI got to the airport, but I got
Speaker 1: to what I'm gonna do, like, so I got I
Speaker 1: got scarred from that. So later on in life, I
Speaker 1: discovered something called miles, and miles I could, I could
Speaker 1: upgrade you, but I can't really like technically give you miles.
Speaker 1: I could, Yes, so I'm a mile God can show
Speaker 1: you right now. I got a million Miles. I got
Speaker 1: a million points in Star Wars. Excuse me, Marriott, bomb boy,
Speaker 1: I got a million points in Hilton. I got a
Speaker 1: million points.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're running it up off the points. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that's the I feel like. That's the one
Speaker 3: thing I tell people, if you have like real discipline
Speaker 3: to pay a credit card off this year every month,
Speaker 3: don't spend anything on a debit card because you run
Speaker 3: up them points.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm a point god. At one time he was
Speaker 2: on Chris Paul credit cards.
Speaker 1: One time he was on the road. It was me
Speaker 1: DMX and I forget who else, and my homie sounds amazing.
Speaker 1: By the way, Homie. This at the time where we
Speaker 1: used to smoking rooms, like you used to literally like
Speaker 1: like check into the hotel and light a cigarette as
Speaker 1: you walk in your This is a terrible time, by
Speaker 1: the way, but that's what we used to do. So
Speaker 1: he no one would put their credit cards down. Remember
Speaker 1: you had to put your credit card, and so Ali,
Speaker 1: it's like fifty of us and Ali puts his credit
Speaker 1: card down, which is a death jam card. It's not
Speaker 1: getting charged to him. So if we smoke, he got
Speaker 1: all the points. Everywhere we went, he got a president
Speaker 1: too sweet from getting upgraded. And I'm like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be the important guy here. How
Speaker 1: are you in the suite?
Speaker 2: Are you in the sweet And I'm not.
Speaker 1: He let your card down, and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not smoking in my room.
Speaker 2: I'm going to smoking DMX room.
Speaker 1: But he's already smoking, so I wouldn't smoke it. So
Speaker 1: I stopped and I would take my incidentals and then
Speaker 1: and like, people see me all over the world, and
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm paying and sometimes I'm cool ponning.
Speaker 3: Ain't that wrong with with miles, But you could also like,
Speaker 3: you know, people, if you want you get in you
Speaker 3: two videos that break that ship down, You're like, damn,
Speaker 3: all right, you do?
Speaker 2: I just do amex all they just.
Speaker 1: Getting But I'm United Direct, I'm American Direct, I'm Hilton Direct.
Speaker 1: And then the lounges, LOUNGESU I know people who I
Speaker 1: know people who cast flights for lounges bro. I know
Speaker 1: people who catch flights just to take a shower.
Speaker 3: I was in fucking Thailand and I needed to record
Speaker 3: my radio show and I went into the like the
Speaker 3: little lounge they rented, the private room.
Speaker 2: I had a private room.
Speaker 3: I was able to do my whole radio show in
Speaker 3: the airport lounge. And technology. Gotta love that technology. Hell yeah, yo.
Speaker 3: Something you mentioned NOAs a little bit earlier. I always
Speaker 3: wondered when you guys did body in the trunk?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: The concept of that record, because it's one of the
Speaker 3: best storytelling Records's one of the most undrated storytelling records ever.
Speaker 3: Think one of my favorite records off of off of.
Speaker 2: N y E.
Speaker 3: Whose concept was it? And how did you guys work
Speaker 3: that story out in the studio?
Speaker 1: I would never change this story. Jungle and a friend
Speaker 1: from from my hood. They were they were playing around
Speaker 1: and they were like, it's a body son, it's a
Speaker 1: body son like and they were just saying that. So
Speaker 1: when I got to the studios his Hip Factory Recording
Speaker 1: Studios of fifty fourth Street, and I always enjoyed the
Speaker 1: two I'm sorry everybody else, but the two people I
Speaker 1: enjoy being in the studio with the most and have
Speaker 1: I've ever worked with is Nas and for Roun, Like
Speaker 1: for some reason, it's it's a it's a chemistry that happens,
Speaker 1: like the o g that he is.
Speaker 2: He's like, yo, I can't make the Na's voice.
Speaker 1: So just being with me like, yo, we got we got,
Speaker 1: we got, we got mad Records. Let's let's let's make
Speaker 1: a record with some sense like something some type of
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, cool. So I'm like I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous. It's Nas, right, this is nervous.
Speaker 1: I'm going to the bathroom and Jungle and my boy
Speaker 1: is still saying that yo's a body, yo, and they.
Speaker 2: Neither one of them rape. But I'm like.
Speaker 1: And it's like he's a body, yo. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I go to the bathroom. I'm using the bathroom. I
Speaker 1: get out and I go Nas, did you hear what
Speaker 1: what Jungle Niggas is playing with? And he's like what
Speaker 1: he's like is he saying this is a body? So
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's let's let's play off for that, like
Speaker 1: there's a body and I come see you and he's like,
Speaker 1: that's genius. And we just wrote the ship and I
Speaker 1: remember Jungle and the homie coming in and just looking
Speaker 1: at us like just stole the whole ship. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: playing with the ship. That was a dope concept, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So f we did it because
Speaker 1: the way we describe it, like you see the queen
Speaker 1: shirt right there, those queen shirts, the seven line that's
Speaker 1: all queens, like how we're describing it.
Speaker 2: The two or four that's two four is the school
Speaker 2: that Nas went to.
Speaker 1: So if you listen to if you're from that area,
Speaker 1: like we really described something like I want to do
Speaker 1: the video to it like in real time like nowadays,
Speaker 1: like like I want to do like a real uh
Speaker 1: uh uh. It's like a mini film. And let me
Speaker 1: not let me not forget Dame Grease. Dame Grease. A
Speaker 1: lot of people forget him in this because it was
Speaker 1: me and Nash who did the record, but Dame came
Speaker 1: and made all those sounds or all.
Speaker 2: The sound effects that make movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he produced the ship out of that record, So
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't so Dame Grease. And and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite records, four hundred degrees from Juvenile.
Speaker 3: He just shot a video for that song. Like twenty
Speaker 3: years later. You should do something body.
Speaker 1: And the Trump Bloody Money like three years ago that
Speaker 1: that was my first thing. So yeah, I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: doing things like that. And plus plus I'm getting my
Speaker 1: masters back.
Speaker 2: How does it? How what's the process of you getting
Speaker 2: your masters back?
Speaker 3: Is it because it's a time limit thing, like the
Speaker 3: time passes and then you're getting back or you're buying
Speaker 3: them as well.
Speaker 1: It works for out both for me, one is the
Speaker 1: time limit thing, and to this company that actually owns it,
Speaker 1: I'm doing other business or I'm getting into to do
Speaker 1: other businesses. We want to look at you kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: work it out, and you know, it's probably the first
Speaker 1: time I kind of like felt selfish, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because the deal was re quiet for me.
Speaker 1: But it's me and Compone's album and Tras was a
Speaker 1: part of it as well, right, so you know, you
Speaker 1: know Trage said to be when he filed out, He's like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna do what the quality go and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: like these are my I mean, you know shit, that's
Speaker 1: sometimes the way some people say that Jay and Dame
Speaker 1: broke up because of the reasonable doubt. Like that first
Speaker 1: album means different to me. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's my first album. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: it's my first time spitting on the mic, and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, my first time coming late to
Speaker 1: a studio session.
Speaker 2: It is my first time doing that. So what you
Speaker 2: guys are doing Rock the bells this weekend, and we
Speaker 2: did Rock the bell because this is come up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this will be out after so but where.
Speaker 3: You know, I had this me Puerto Rico, Rob scram
Speaker 3: Jones were at dinner last night and we just started throwing.
Speaker 3: We just got on this tangent about best album covers
Speaker 3: of all time, and uh, and I said, the War
Speaker 3: Reports got to be in that conversation. It's timeless, It's
Speaker 3: on t shirts, it's on hoodies in.
Speaker 2: What was the the photo shoot?
Speaker 3: Like the conceptual like thought process of War Reports covered
Speaker 3: because it is so iconic and it's still people have.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize you said Shortline Mafia just yeah, just
Speaker 3: paid homage to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that, big them up and they did
Speaker 2: a video to the Yeah.
Speaker 3: By the way, even at Coachella they were they were
Speaker 3: CNN out with the tanks and ship.
Speaker 2: They're crazy. Yeah, I like them, but they're crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy and I'm not flost and this is just facts.
Speaker 1: I went out to dinner the other day, uh, with
Speaker 1: Jamie Left Raight. His family owns Left right. That's where
Speaker 1: I'm from it and he says to me, he says,
Speaker 1: you know the first time I found.
Speaker 2: Out about you, And I said, what is that?
Speaker 1: He said, they said that somebody's in my apartments, throwing down,
Speaker 1: saying and taking pictures. So I looked at him and
Speaker 1: I was like, sir, you have no idea what you
Speaker 1: just described to me. And he goes what is that,
Speaker 1: I said, that's my very first album cover. That's the
Speaker 1: War Report. Because we didn't have photoshop back then. We
Speaker 1: had to go to Jones Beach. We had to go
Speaker 1: to Rockaway Beach and actually literally pick up sand and
Speaker 1: put it on the floor.
Speaker 2: So when.
Speaker 1: You see my my Timberlands, my Timberland is actually on sand.
Speaker 1: And then everything else was that version of photo shop later,
Speaker 1: but that's what I remember. I remember like us getting
Speaker 1: kicked out because we had to literally bring our own props.
Speaker 3: And yeah, because back then it was like like you said,
Speaker 3: it wasn't like you could just and you can make
Speaker 3: anything on a computer. Now, if you get take a
Speaker 3: picture in front of a green screen, you could be
Speaker 3: in Greece right now for sure.
Speaker 1: And yeah, but yeah, that was that was iconic. And
Speaker 1: then another thing that stood out to me that that
Speaker 1: that that happened with that album cover was the dude
Speaker 1: snitched on the old neighborhood the next day. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you'll ever seen the War Report. When you
Speaker 1: open up the War Report, we got a place in
Speaker 1: there where it goes, Trader says Trader. The dude took
Speaker 1: the picture with he's in both he's in both he's
Speaker 1: in Queensbridge and he's in left right, And the very
Speaker 1: next day he took the stand on everybody in the picture,
Speaker 1: everybod he's in the picture with him.
Speaker 2: The day before. Oh wow.
Speaker 1: And so that's why you see when you open up
Speaker 1: the album cover it says Trader.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel like if you had to did
Speaker 3: that these days that I probably would have sued you.
Speaker 3: Everyone's getting fucking too right. I don't know, man, it's crazy, YO,
Speaker 3: talk to me for you man. Like, I do feel
Speaker 3: like as much as like Joe Budden was the first guy,
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: Feel like this surgery we were right there. No.
Speaker 3: But but I feel like I feel like, you know,
Speaker 3: there is no it is what it is with Cam
Speaker 3: and Mace, there is no Joe and Jada.
Speaker 2: I feel like you guys really we made the drink
Speaker 2: Champs made.
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, you guys are the godfathers
Speaker 3: of the current podcast Waving hip Hop.
Speaker 2: I'll break it down like this for you.
Speaker 1: The very first podcast hip hop podcast has to go
Speaker 1: to Cipher Styles at Rosenberg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to U.
Speaker 1: Shout out to one appp I cannot I used to
Speaker 1: do their podcast and they used to. We used to
Speaker 1: do it like here, like you see how I just
Speaker 1: did the Brothers Club when I came here. So I
Speaker 1: used to do the morning show or whatever, and I
Speaker 1: used to do that podcast and I used to not curse.
Speaker 1: They just like you could curse. I'm like, I feel
Speaker 1: like you're tricking me. I feel like we're in the
Speaker 1: principal's office right and you're telling me to curse. And
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna get get Yeah, I'm gonna get in
Speaker 1: trouble because why are you telling me I can't curse it.
Speaker 2: I'm in Hot ninety seven. So I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to that, the very first hip
Speaker 1: hop podcast is one app after that. It was iced Tea.
Speaker 2: See I never listened to Iced Tea had a podcast.
Speaker 1: Then comes combat Jack, Combat Jack for sure, Combat Jack
Speaker 1: Combat Show.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Charlotte was a part of that.
Speaker 3: Now it was a whole network. Yeah, brilliant idiot was
Speaker 3: on that network. Yeah, give the premium Pede and those guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but I feel like you did the guest
Speaker 3: driven shit.
Speaker 2: So what happened was we had had a radio show
Speaker 2: with Leo G. You remember Leo G.
Speaker 1: Sixty six. Well, we had a radio show and it
Speaker 1: was called MILITATETMT Crazy World Radio.
Speaker 2: It's the same exact fucking thing if you look it
Speaker 2: up on YouTube. We cheated. We use the same exact
Speaker 2: show right.
Speaker 1: The only thing is we had Tiger Bone right and
Speaker 1: the ship worked. But then member of Serious Satellite was
Speaker 1: it sixty six Raw and Shade.
Speaker 2: They merged.
Speaker 1: They merged and I had just moved from New York.
Speaker 1: I was stressed, and they were like, yo, to keep
Speaker 1: this going. We want you all to come up once
Speaker 1: a week in New York. And I was just like nah.
Speaker 1: I was just like I had, I had, I had,
Speaker 1: I had needed a break, so I didn't do it.
Speaker 1: Years later, EFN was it was just the friend knew
Speaker 1: what we had, like I got to give him. He
Speaker 1: has patience I don't. And he years later came to
Speaker 1: me and was like, yo, I got this play. It's
Speaker 1: called a podcast, but we do the same exact thing.
Speaker 1: And the concept was just us be us because we
Speaker 1: we had we had copywritten drink Champs because I used
Speaker 1: to use EFN studio and he used to play poker
Speaker 1: and we used to drink all night. I'll be drinking
Speaker 1: on one side of the studio, He'll be playing poker
Speaker 1: on the other side of the studio, and whoever would
Speaker 1: be up at night, we would be like, Oh, you're
Speaker 1: a drink champ. You're a drink champ, right, So we
Speaker 1: just took the name to play around, and then I
Speaker 1: made a song called drink Champ with Alchemists, and I
Speaker 1: talk about me challenging all the rappers. I beat bird Man,
Speaker 1: I beat all these guys in drinking. And then years
Speaker 1: later we did it, and then CBS came to the table,
Speaker 1: and then Revault came to the table, and it just
Speaker 1: just everything, everything took off.
Speaker 3: Do you speak to the importance of e f N?
Speaker 3: Because I feel like he's uh. I feel like he's
Speaker 3: such an underrated guy and his knowledge of hip hop
Speaker 3: is top tier. He's such a he's just I think
Speaker 3: he's amazing, man. You think he adds so much to
Speaker 3: the show. But just like the importance of I mean, obviously,
Speaker 3: you're no you're, you're, you're fucking Nordy, You're everybody knows Nori.
Speaker 2: But EFN is so important to the equation. He's hip
Speaker 2: hop like like one thing for short.
Speaker 1: For certain, he has morals and places where I don't. Yes,
Speaker 1: like he does not do things for the money. He
Speaker 1: takes the money, just take the money, all day. Money.
Speaker 1: He's not money driven, but he's not money driven. And
Speaker 1: that is the quality in itself, and that that that
Speaker 1: humbles me at times, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: evens you out a little, even he might have to
Speaker 1: be like, hey, y not ally's good money. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: but but he does like money. Don't don't get in twisted.
Speaker 1: He does like money, but he's always morals driven, like
Speaker 1: like like to this day, like he on DJ unless
Speaker 1: it's vinyl.
Speaker 2: See, I don't get that. Yeah, that that he's stubborn.
Speaker 3: I respect it because you're kind of like a weird
Speaker 3: niche DJA. Like, Hey, if we're gonna do some hipster
Speaker 3: backpack night, who's gonna carry fucking seven crates in the night?
Speaker 2: Or you can bring your fucking laptop. I was a
Speaker 2: static Selectives bar last night.
Speaker 3: The DJ was only playing on vinyl, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is the most inefficient bullshit.
Speaker 2: I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It's hip hop though, no it is.
Speaker 3: But it's also like, yo, guys, technology guys, you know
Speaker 3: what's crazy?
Speaker 1: And I know I'm gonna sound I'll normalf like a dinosaur.
Speaker 1: But you can if you actually listen, you can tell
Speaker 1: when a person's playing vinyl.
Speaker 2: You can't by how they make You could actually tell.
Speaker 1: I can walk into a party and be like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's Tyler Leo the vinyl Like I can tell, like
Speaker 1: because I don't know the way the record is mixed,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he does not confined with technology.
Speaker 3: You know, talk to me about like, because like you said,
Speaker 3: it's impossible to ignore the economy of the podcast market
Speaker 3: right now, so much so that it's becoming you know,
Speaker 3: I think, you know, with anything artists. Hip hop's oversaturated
Speaker 3: with new artists and podcasts the same thing, right, the
Speaker 3: cream rises to the top. But when did you realize
Speaker 3: that this thing was not a good bag but like
Speaker 3: a life changing like oh, because you know, I've heard like, uh,
Speaker 3: Gillian Wallow talk about some of the contracts they've signed,
Speaker 3: and and you hear numbers getting thrown out there. But
Speaker 3: when when was that moment for you where you were.
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, the moment for me was ownership. I
Speaker 1: didn't own nothing in hip hop until a lot of
Speaker 1: years and and and then and the albums that I
Speaker 1: do kind of like own.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like not worth right like some of
Speaker 2: your more independent works. Yes, yes, I.
Speaker 1: Mean it's worth something, yeah, but it's not worth my
Speaker 1: my thing is. So that was that was that was
Speaker 1: the concept from the beginning, was like I wanted to
Speaker 1: own this, like like like I one year, we sold
Speaker 1: it to vote for one year and well, well.
Speaker 2: You licensed it.
Speaker 1: We licensed, we we high licensed it and you know,
Speaker 1: we took the super super pay and then we wanted.
Speaker 2: We blew up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but those those rights got with that ship were
Speaker 1: voted back. The rights came back to us. So we
Speaker 1: want to we want to own this. This is something
Speaker 1: like I don't think that drink Champs doesn't have my
Speaker 1: name on it per se.
Speaker 2: It's it's its own. It says in our E and
Speaker 2: E f N preson it's drink Champs, right.
Speaker 1: But I look at this as the future, like I
Speaker 1: knew I knew CAM was going to come into the space, right,
Speaker 1: But in my idea, I was going to give drink
Speaker 1: champces to CAM.
Speaker 2: Like I was going to cash out. That's what I
Speaker 2: was going to try to do.
Speaker 1: Like and I was gonna be like, yo, I want
Speaker 1: you to be the host on a lot of years
Speaker 1: or whatever. Obviously he thought how I thought he wanted
Speaker 1: to own his own ship too. But that was my
Speaker 1: thing was it really wasn't about the money, like you
Speaker 1: know it's it's not you know, hip hop has been
Speaker 1: great to me.
Speaker 2: I've been platinum, Like you have the hit records. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: like you hit by the way.
Speaker 3: You can do live shows as much as you want,
Speaker 3: like all these old school shows that are popping up everywhere.
Speaker 2: You could be getting the bag every weekend. So when
Speaker 2: it was for me was.
Speaker 1: When I you know, God blessed with Volt the original
Speaker 1: Revolt regime, when we were so hot and they came
Speaker 1: to us and they knew the concept was you guys
Speaker 1: want to own your own stuff, and they agreed to that.
Speaker 1: That was like for me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because this is something that's my son over there. I
Speaker 1: know he looks like one of the guys, but this
Speaker 1: is something I could leave to my son, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I can actually leave this like
Speaker 1: the network can.
Speaker 2: Also the catalog.
Speaker 3: It's like people like like some of like I think
Speaker 3: that that's what's dope. When you have certain interviews like
Speaker 3: the ones you have is that they're gonna like you're
Speaker 3: for real, interview is gonna live forever, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like like these are interviews that are never
Speaker 3: going to go anywhere. There are always going to be
Speaker 3: historical time pieces that people are gonna be able to
Speaker 3: go back and listen to.
Speaker 2: And Yo, I was in the building.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me do just just like the Bleak podcast,
Speaker 1: Like we signed Bleak, but Bleak owns all his SOUF,
Speaker 1: he owns the I P, he owns I cannot, I
Speaker 1: cannot own.
Speaker 2: What is the business model for you?
Speaker 1: It's pretty much production. Like we handled the production for
Speaker 1: him and we handled the distribution, right.
Speaker 3: Are you handling help and getting him with ad partners?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not me personally, but the team is you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, that's not my forte but yes, the
Speaker 1: team is so essentially and our heart as well, our
Speaker 1: heart is with it as well.
Speaker 2: It's our heart is part of that.
Speaker 1: So essentially you're.
Speaker 3: Saying, hey, Bleak, I'm gonna handle producing this whole ship.
Speaker 3: You just gotta show up e Memphis Bleak.
Speaker 1: And he's he's he's doing it more to me now
Speaker 1: like he's he's he's filming it. That he's gonna give
Speaker 1: a fuck, he's whatever, Like he said, badass painting the
Speaker 1: ass excuse me, And every every clip that he's sending
Speaker 1: out is just going through the roof because again human
Speaker 1: painting as one, yeah, and painting and ass talking about
Speaker 1: the reasonable doubts, skates and all that. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: he's he's just he's just continuing working. And the good
Speaker 1: thing about podcast space is don't try to be something
Speaker 1: you're not. Talk to your audience because they're there. So
Speaker 1: that's what I like about Bleak. He's not trying to
Speaker 1: be controversial, he's not trying to be dangerous. He's trying
Speaker 1: to be funny, and he's trying to tell these stories
Speaker 1: because and like I literally just got the text that
Speaker 1: whole just approved source Money on Bleak's podcast. So this
Speaker 1: will be the first time saw money and what I
Speaker 1: never I don't even know. And by the way, Source Money,
Speaker 1: there's a rumor that I got beef with you. He's
Speaker 1: proof that I've got to be with you. This this
Speaker 1: is on my network as well, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is on our network, But I think now I
Speaker 1: want to fly up for the fucking interview, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta want to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to watch because.
Speaker 1: We all know this a fallout, but we don't know
Speaker 1: what fall out, didn't we know?
Speaker 2: I gotta do the mail interview where she at l
Speaker 2: with the Christian Brothers, Memember Brothers.
Speaker 1: Yes, remember, yeah, was the R and B sing on
Speaker 1: Rockefeller and that's what when Bleak for me and Bleak
Speaker 1: talked about it.
Speaker 2: I actually called Bleak.
Speaker 1: This is how it happened, and you can get Bleak
Speaker 1: up here.
Speaker 2: I called Bleak because I called him.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, listen, you doesn't drink chances before, but
Speaker 1: now I know it's the man next to.
Speaker 2: The man man. Yeah, I know it. You can feel it.
Speaker 1: I feel the algorithms when I when I interviewed Jim Jones.
Speaker 1: I feel the algorithms when I interviewed Tony Yale. So
Speaker 1: I told Bleik, I said listen, and Bleak came and
Speaker 1: I showed him the algorithm. I said, look, didn't I
Speaker 1: tell you? And then we did the concept and he's
Speaker 1: staying in that zone. He's talking to that people and
Speaker 1: it's working.
Speaker 2: It's working. Jim chat to Jim. Jim Jones is on
Speaker 2: one of the crazier it is crazy.
Speaker 3: He just me saying he's like, Yo, this ship is working.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just I'm gonna just die.
Speaker 1: I don't knock him. I don't knock him. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: it's working. People are talking about him.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna compare me the what am I say?
Speaker 1: No? Yes, she want me to be like nah man, No,
Speaker 1: compare me to whole, Compare me to Joy Badass?
Speaker 2: What the fuck? No, nigga like you want to be
Speaker 2: compared to Hold? That's no. Stop.
Speaker 3: You would never say You would never say though, that
Speaker 3: you're better than jay Z.
Speaker 2: Would you ever say that like he said Bar for
Speaker 2: Barr put us in the booths? Nah?
Speaker 1: He didn't say that, he did, Nah he did.
Speaker 2: He said that. He said that on the Shannon Sharp ship. Okay,
Speaker 2: you would never say that.
Speaker 1: Hilarious. By the way, let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. Jim knows how to go viral, bro.
Speaker 1: He he's doing a really good and I appreciate the media.
Speaker 1: Run My only thing if Jim Jones, if you listen
Speaker 1: to this, go through your own podcast, bro, please stop
Speaker 1: giving these other people these lights Like God, do those
Speaker 1: numbers with without you? Who's the Joey and Jaya. They're
Speaker 1: gonna do these numbers with without you. Go and Harlem
Speaker 1: set up in a fire hydrant and fucking turn on
Speaker 1: the fire hydrant. Let the kids get the fucking baths
Speaker 1: and fucking do some double dutch with the girls and
Speaker 1: do that.
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Speaker 3: One of the most interesting nights I went to. You
Speaker 3: had a podcast that you did. This is around the
Speaker 3: time that Freddie RSUs Jason album came out in l A.
Speaker 2: And you invited me.
Speaker 3: To the filming. It was in like somewhere near Santa Monica.
Speaker 3: Kiss Fab was there, but the Diddy talk about that
Speaker 3: Drey and Michelle and damn, I forgot that boy Drey
Speaker 3: was in the background. She went on camera forgot and
Speaker 3: that was the That was the funniest ship because I
Speaker 3: remember it went viral because he kept saying like, Yo, yeah, Daddy,
Speaker 3: like I just told you that podcast and that that
Speaker 3: moment because I was standing there and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this fool was on a sick one for sure, because
Speaker 3: I remember when I introduced that was the first time ever
Speaker 3: met Ddy and I remember just seeing it in his eyes.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this fools see but see this
Speaker 1: is this is what I just said, but this is
Speaker 1: really what happened. He had beef with Fab, like not beef,
Speaker 1: but Fab was drinking a different type of vodka.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you peep it, like if you look.
Speaker 1: That's why he said we don't party party. He's talking
Speaker 1: about the actual the party party thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah he had the coke.
Speaker 1: Do you party party?
Speaker 2: But by the way, he didn't tell me that neither.
Speaker 1: Like so when they start going off on his own,
Speaker 1: me and Kisses looking at each other like what the
Speaker 1: fuck is going on because we didn't know that they
Speaker 1: had like they like like they little like secret kind
Speaker 1: of like beefs.
Speaker 2: But that's what it was.
Speaker 1: And like I told I had a chance to edit
Speaker 1: that it was too good, but I was like, fuck it,
Speaker 1: And you know what, my skin is thick, and I
Speaker 1: know I'm not like it's like somebody it's like somebody calling.
Speaker 2: You dirty, right, like you dirty dude. You're like my dude,
Speaker 2: I take three shours a day.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really bother you, Like if you know you're
Speaker 1: not dirty or you're not you're not dirty. So I
Speaker 1: actually I actually embraced it. I was just like, fucking
Speaker 1: it goes virul every fucking two weeks. It it goes
Speaker 1: viral for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 3: Because in retrospect now people are like, yo, you remember
Speaker 3: when like he warned us.
Speaker 2: But here's the deal. A seesaw. Life is a seesaw.
Speaker 1: You gotta go up, but then you gotta go down,
Speaker 1: but then you got to go up again.
Speaker 2: You gotta just accept life, so sometimes you gotta go down.
Speaker 2: Are you conscientious of that?
Speaker 3: As somebody who has had his peaks and valleys in
Speaker 3: the music industry and now you're you're.
Speaker 2: You're more relevant than ever arguably right in the culture.
Speaker 2: Are you like.
Speaker 3: Conscientious of not getting too comfortable, not getting not not
Speaker 3: you know, like not necessarily just like, Yo, this ship
Speaker 3: could be here tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I remember there was one time you you you popped
Speaker 2: up in a Bang Bros. Video. Dog, Yeah, what offend
Speaker 2: if work for Bank Bros? Yes, I didn't know all
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Did this is everybody in I had to work for
Speaker 1: a point company at some point you're not really a
Speaker 1: Miami And I had the hacked password and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did an interview. I had water in my hand
Speaker 1: and something fell on me. I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I thought it was firm. I was like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah yeah shit is real, Like shit is real, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sh it is real. I definitely remember that.
Speaker 3: But what was saying, I was just wondering, like, are
Speaker 3: you just like you know, is that what keeps you?
Speaker 3: Because you you got so much going on, bro, and
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, a lot of people will
Speaker 3: get comfortable. A lot of people would kind of put
Speaker 3: it in cruise control, like yeah, we're gona shoot the
Speaker 3: podcast once a week, or I feel like you're always.
Speaker 2: Doing so much.
Speaker 3: I mean you got the run Club, the Marathon, and
Speaker 3: I mean obviously the network's now going like what and
Speaker 3: I feel like you got the rap bugglo key back
Speaker 3: a little bit, a little bit that see you on
Speaker 3: a master Killer song recently, Yo, I killed that shit
Speaker 3: too right.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how he paused, how you got
Speaker 1: that out of me? Were?
Speaker 2: I think I was overseas and master Killer, I'm a
Speaker 2: big fan of No said date very slept on album
Speaker 2: The Balance.
Speaker 1: The album is dope. Master Killer is dope. And he
Speaker 1: hit me and I was like cinder beat and he
Speaker 1: said to beating. I think I just did it right
Speaker 1: then and there, and I just never thought about it
Speaker 1: until the album dropped and then Rizza came on the
Speaker 1: show the day the day the album dropped. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm never gonna fully not rap right like
Speaker 1: I can in the shower and the soap drops right
Speaker 1: and they.
Speaker 2: Go and I'll start right. It's just in me, right.
Speaker 1: I just like the other day I was it was
Speaker 1: funny as hell. My wife walks in the room and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there like this in the shower because I
Speaker 1: couldn't had a line and I was just like and
Speaker 1: I had to type in the lyrics. She's just looking
Speaker 1: at me like, are you an addict? Like I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I when I I hear a lyric, I
Speaker 1: have to write it down because I'll say I remember
Speaker 1: it and then I'll forget it and then so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got the bug again. Pharrell. Every like five to
Speaker 1: six years he makes this new different sound. And when
Speaker 1: he makes this new different sound, god bless me.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like.
Speaker 1: I'm always in those algorithms. I'm always a part of that.
Speaker 1: I feel like he gave clips, all of them clips.
Speaker 1: By the way, I've been jealous of y'all beat selection
Speaker 1: for years, Oh my goodness, for years. You know, I
Speaker 1: had grinding. Grinding was supposed to be Vine. Wait, you
Speaker 1: had grinded? I I had grinding, want grind?
Speaker 2: Did you record on it? I just I did.
Speaker 1: I'm on the remix as well, and I'm in the video.
Speaker 2: Go look at the video. You gonna be like, damn
Speaker 2: you passed. No, I did not. They gave they took the.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was that was always a beat.
Speaker 2: But he gave.
Speaker 1: Clips some some some ship.
Speaker 2: And he gave Ross Ross record.
Speaker 1: Ross was a hit.
Speaker 3: It's hard, that's the That's gonna be Ross's biggest single
Speaker 3: probably in the last decade.
Speaker 2: And Ross did it right.
Speaker 1: He filmed the video in Paris so because it's a
Speaker 1: whole little wave right now, Like like, you know, everyone
Speaker 1: is going to Paris for fashion week. I'm not a
Speaker 1: fashion guy, per se. I like clothes, but I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, I'm not gonna be that guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna.
Speaker 2: Be I'm not walking in a Louis fucking fashion Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna be buying Louis fucking.
Speaker 2: Straws. You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna be
Speaker 2: doing like that condoms.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna buy a fucking Louis Vuitton
Speaker 1: coffee mug. It's not gonna be me, but I got
Speaker 1: lous buiton headphones. You do have a Louis Vuitton, Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: just to hold the butt, hold.
Speaker 2: The marijuana weed back. Yes, you're on it. You've been
Speaker 2: on a health kick. Are you still drinking a lot?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I drink, I drink. I drink occasionally. But is it
Speaker 2: like strictly on the show? You know?
Speaker 1: It depends because sometimes if a guest don't drink, I
Speaker 1: won't drink neither. But but then sometimes I just want
Speaker 1: to get drunk on the show because it.
Speaker 2: Goes with the show.
Speaker 3: It's almost like there's like a fine balance of like
Speaker 3: when you're drinking with someone on the show, they open
Speaker 3: up more.
Speaker 1: But then there's times where you guys are fucked up.
Speaker 2: Like like Rizza just put us on and you're fucking fried. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: but Rizza just put us on. Rizza.
Speaker 1: We just did a four hour interview with Rizza. We
Speaker 1: drank eight bottles literally of sake. Oh he drinks, no,
Speaker 1: not drinks. He's a drink champion and he like will
Speaker 1: make it he I was. I just was with him
Speaker 1: in La in his dressing room. I saw that he
Speaker 1: had the killer, the Killer.
Speaker 2: That's his wife the killer though, did you know that? Yes,
Speaker 2: his wife actually makes that. Oh wow yeah yeah, so
Speaker 2: he's he four hours with res of eight bottles. Listen.
Speaker 1: He's my type of drinker though, Like, that's my type
Speaker 1: of drinker because he gets smarter as I get dumber.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I get dumber, but in a
Speaker 1: great way, like in a fun way. He gets more
Speaker 1: five percent. He's like, because you know why the earth
Speaker 1: surface is this color?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Everything is related. It's all mathematics. God, it's all mathematics. God,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, and none of this it can make sense, but
Speaker 1: you'd be like your got gods. The guy he was like,
Speaker 1: because the earth surface is green because it's a.
Speaker 2: Company drink the universe and the God.
Speaker 1: I'm like that I listened to, like, I don't care.
Speaker 1: So to this day, Rizza has he has affected me
Speaker 1: because I have not drinking any other liquor since Rizza
Speaker 1: has left Drink Champs other than saki.
Speaker 2: I do like saki. Saki. It creeps up on you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not even here.
Speaker 3: Hey, that thing about that sock of that ship will
Speaker 3: sneak up on you and you'd be like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: why did how did I get here? Or if you're
Speaker 3: like if it's a long dinner, you stand up, You're like,
Speaker 3: it's when you stand up, when you stand up?
Speaker 1: Fuck up?
Speaker 2: Stand Oh my goodness. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But that's to get back to to the point, is
Speaker 1: I am on a health kick. These brothers are right here.
Speaker 1: They're taking this crazy journey with me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, it's not the forefront in the hood.
Speaker 1: It's not in the forefront in our culture, in our
Speaker 1: community to want to take care of yourself.
Speaker 2: You know. Uh, you know people telling.
Speaker 1: Me I'm looking younger and you were great, No, you know,
Speaker 1: I lost the way, Like that's all good. But it's
Speaker 1: actually a lifestyle, Like it's actually something like this morning,
Speaker 1: we planned on running at five o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: but I had landed at two thirty because Newark Airport
Speaker 1: is messed up real it's dangerous, So we didn't get
Speaker 1: to I didn't get to sleep till like three fifteen,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to do that to you, or
Speaker 1: to the breakfast club and be here like half assed.
Speaker 1: So I had to get that little two hours worth
Speaker 1: of sleep.
Speaker 2: And but I came here.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm on the health kick, but it's not
Speaker 1: really a kick, It's it's really a lifestyle something that
Speaker 1: I enjoy being. Like, I realized that I'm a person
Speaker 1: that likes Brussels Sprouse if I'm not on the diet,
Speaker 1: I realized I like string being.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what's crazy.
Speaker 3: The biggest myth growing up as kids was we thought
Speaker 3: Brussel Sprous was supposed to be nasty, that ships smack.
Speaker 2: This is great, holy.
Speaker 1: Sauce on, Oh my gosh, fantastic, fucking incredible. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: so I like it, Like you know, we we literally
Speaker 1: went all over, Like I went to uh not for
Speaker 1: my what was it not? Not Tampa? Tampa was burd
Speaker 1: Christ Naples, Naples. So you know, I check it into
Speaker 1: the hotel in Naples, right.
Speaker 3: For people who don't know, Naples is like where all
Speaker 3: the retired Jews live, Like it's super fucking nice.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: It's very up. That's where all the rich people retire
Speaker 2: from New York. And like, well, we.
Speaker 1: Went there to run a race, and you know, I
Speaker 1: check in, go to the ball are and the guy
Speaker 1: just he's just asking me. I camped him in his
Speaker 1: watch he calmed him in his minds, and then he
Speaker 1: says something a little funny, and I had to let
Speaker 1: him know. I was like, yeah, I just wear that
Speaker 1: to swim. Yeah, that's my that's my swimming watch. This
Speaker 1: is this is your main this is my swimming and
Speaker 1: watch swim this, and and I realized like he was
Speaker 1: trying to play me, so I tre so. Then he's
Speaker 1: seeing people coming up to me and taking pictures. So
Speaker 1: he started to wonder, like, who the fuck are you?
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, I just so I
Speaker 1: want to throw them off. I was like, I'm just
Speaker 1: here to run. And he said, so you you came
Speaker 1: here to run. And I realized how much sense you
Speaker 1: don't make to a person who's a non runner.
Speaker 3: So you checked into a hotel and they obviously live
Speaker 3: in Miami Naples is what hour away hours and change, right, So.
Speaker 2: You went there just for the purpose of I'm gonna
Speaker 2: run in ok in the morning. In the morning was
Speaker 2: a race.
Speaker 1: It was, but it doesn't make sense to anybody because
Speaker 1: it's like people in this world to make money. I'm
Speaker 1: actually paying money to join the race.
Speaker 3: It's like I'm paying to run, I'm.
Speaker 2: Getting the car service.
Speaker 1: If it's a car service of it's flights, hotels, all that, hotels,
Speaker 1: all that, and it's something that this is my hobby.
Speaker 2: Now, this is my version run champs. This is your
Speaker 2: version of golf. I like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like it is therapeutic.
Speaker 1: It is like I mean, like right now, I know
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sound crazy, but the fact that I didn't
Speaker 1: run it stays on my mind, like every five minutes.
Speaker 1: You didn't run today, You're not You're not as good
Speaker 1: as you can be. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: that's that's That's a great attitude for me to have
Speaker 1: in my.
Speaker 2: Lot of years. It's great.
Speaker 1: But now I'm thinking about you know, I'm going to
Speaker 1: Na's new restaurant, Coco Deck. What's it called Coco Deck,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get me some sockey. Hey.
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Speaker 2: Do you pay attention?
Speaker 3: They say that you and I are to the greatest
Speaker 3: interrupters in podcast history.
Speaker 2: Everybody always like yo, like Kevin just won't stop interrupting, motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Interruption is greatness.
Speaker 2: Interrupts. Let's make it, teach. Do you see the comment?
Speaker 2: Let's make it.
Speaker 1: I see the comments. I see the comments. In my case,
Speaker 1: a lot of times I protect artists. I'm an artist artist.
Speaker 1: Like if I have a certain artist, I know what
Speaker 1: they're about to say. I know they're about to shoot
Speaker 1: on my friend.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Hey man, hey, before you say that, you remember when
Speaker 1: I've seen you in such and such, and then you
Speaker 1: start thinking about that, like I have great relationships so
Speaker 1: and I am one of those guys that they held
Speaker 1: hold accountable. If someone I fucking uh Brett Kreschner comes
Speaker 1: on my show, Bert Kreischer, he knows.
Speaker 2: You know, he he was on there.
Speaker 1: He comes on my show and he says, funck bootleg
Speaker 1: cav any other show, bootleg keV would be like, it's okay,
Speaker 1: But the fact that me and you have a relationship,
Speaker 1: you will feel a certain way.
Speaker 2: I do not care you know that I did not.
Speaker 2: I guess it would just depends on what you said after.
Speaker 2: I'm not the best.
Speaker 1: I'm not the best under right under under like weirdness, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not the best. So and I know that, and
Speaker 1: I know that that's good. But I'm the type of
Speaker 1: person that I get blamed for that. Like if Prodigy
Speaker 1: rest In Peace was to come on my podcast and say,
Speaker 1: fuck west Side Got, I'm just sorry, rest i Got
Speaker 1: just the first person I thought of, right, west Side
Speaker 1: Gun will be mad at me for sure instead of
Speaker 1: being mad at Prodigy because we have a certain type
Speaker 1: of relationship and that's the reason why.
Speaker 2: It happens to me, like.
Speaker 3: That, what situation did you first learn that Lessony Kanye? Yeah,
Speaker 3: because you took the interview down. Yeah, but no, I
Speaker 3: first learned that Lesson.
Speaker 1: Was bang bang, I'm at a party, Puffer's dead partyer
Speaker 1: and like mid party, just turns around and says, how
Speaker 1: you gonna let that bitch this me on your record?
Speaker 2: And I was like, I was like, I thought you
Speaker 2: didn't care.
Speaker 1: He's like it doesn't matter, get money, and he.
Speaker 2: Just kept partying, and I was like, oh shit.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: he's about to go back home and that gets some
Speaker 1: fucking comrade on his nipples.
Speaker 2: He didn't care.
Speaker 1: He didn't care. He was like, it doesn't matter. Get
Speaker 1: money word And it was like, so, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know that having a person on your record is a
Speaker 1: co sign. Like if I have you on the record
Speaker 1: and you dis Messa.
Speaker 2: It is a form of a co sign. It's a
Speaker 2: form of a coast sign.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that because if we're good, you should either.
Speaker 1: Then Messa has his choice to be mad at me too, right,
Speaker 1: because because I was supposed to call Messa and say, yo, mess.
Speaker 2: Out this is That's what I actually did with Diddy.
Speaker 2: I told him.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, Foxy. I couldn't stop her. I
Speaker 1: was trying to do it with Little Kim, but I
Speaker 1: could never get to Little Kill. But so now I
Speaker 1: know that. Now I know that if I have you
Speaker 1: on on my show and you just Tom SEVERAGRAI so
Speaker 1: go you see, no, you know you know I'm doing this.
Speaker 2: I'm doing this. I gotta call Tom and be like Tom,
Speaker 2: That's what I'll do a lot of times.
Speaker 3: If somebody says anything about another artist, and if I
Speaker 3: have any relationship with them. I have to give them
Speaker 3: the heads up. Hey, something was said about you on
Speaker 3: the show. I don't want you to be called a
Speaker 3: guard by it. I didn't I didn't try to stir
Speaker 3: it up. It just happened. This but but, but, but
Speaker 3: you know what you just said is a perfect example
Speaker 3: of why you know, I kind of understood why push
Speaker 3: a T was going, Travis, because I get it if
Speaker 3: you play the record and you come and play me
Speaker 3: the album and then it comes out.
Speaker 1: A few weeks later, and then as Drake on there,
Speaker 1: this is me.
Speaker 3: You can't this is for real, this is a god
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's just I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a funny thing when we had on
Speaker 1: the show, first time I ever heard push your T
Speaker 1: raise his voice m M, and I said to push
Speaker 1: your tea or Drake? He said, both, Man, push your
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm supposed to say this. Push
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, but I'm in the zone right now.
Speaker 1: But push your Call.
Speaker 2: Me like, how the fuck is our boy doing this?
Speaker 1: How's he doing that?
Speaker 2: How does he fucking he says? Both of us. Drake
Speaker 2: wouldn't have pick both of us. Drake would have picked.
Speaker 1: Him, and I'm like, pushing, this is the one time
Speaker 1: I'm shotting the fuck up. I'm gonna let you vent
Speaker 1: because I have no you know, but it's real. That's
Speaker 1: I say that to say, that's how much of all
Speaker 1: a human par all is? You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: good guy, he's a human guy. Like he told me
Speaker 1: for years, he was like, no, we don't do no
Speaker 1: crime in front of me. I was like, who the
Speaker 1: fuck thinks like that? I'm not doing no crime for
Speaker 1: he said, I'm gonna tell like you don't want to.
Speaker 2: I think that's my favorite interview you guys ever, did
Speaker 2: you don't want to take a nah leader from him?
Speaker 1: L after that, like a minute, like he literally told
Speaker 1: me that from the beginning and our very first time
Speaker 1: I ever encountered with for real, he sung me the
Speaker 1: whole bloody money. Really he knew it word for word.
Speaker 1: And then as soon as he finished, he said, but
Speaker 1: I don't have a thug bone in my body. And
Speaker 1: I gave him a hug and I respected that, and
Speaker 1: I never expected any thug shit to come from him, yo.
Speaker 2: And I'm comfortable with that. Do you still have any
Speaker 2: sort of relationship with ya.
Speaker 1: I have have no to the short story, no, but
Speaker 1: I want.
Speaker 3: To do all time great interview. I think it's one
Speaker 3: of the greatest interviews of all time.
Speaker 1: Want to be honest with you, weirdest two years of
Speaker 1: my life. For two years, it was like a weird
Speaker 1: relationship we had. I don't want to call it a bromance,
Speaker 1: but it was like we were together. I understood him,
Speaker 1: I thought he understood me. But what I didn't understand
Speaker 1: is I don't understand his audience. Right now, my favorite
Speaker 1: audience of people that I've interviewed is loulu Wayne.
Speaker 2: Lu Wayne has the best.
Speaker 1: He has the best, most respectful fans. Like I posted
Speaker 1: a clip of him, they would be in my dms.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, mister Norwy when is the They're nice, they're polite,
Speaker 1: they have manners.
Speaker 2: Yay fans, No Drake fans either. Drake fans are crazy.
Speaker 1: I haven't experienced Drake fans yet, but Yay fans. And
Speaker 1: you know what's the crazy part about it? After after
Speaker 1: the second interview, the first interview, I was straight after
Speaker 1: the second interview. You know who's the craziest part of
Speaker 1: Yay's fans white people, the whites, the whites that's with him, well.
Speaker 3: Because then there's like the new whites that are with
Speaker 3: him just because the should he be said And you're like, oh, you.
Speaker 1: Can't tell them friends, I just know that they and
Speaker 1: those are the ones that shooed on me. You should
Speaker 1: have took down the Ya interview. I'm like, damn, like
Speaker 1: that mean, they're mean. Yay's fans are mean.
Speaker 3: Was that ultimately your choice of revolts choice or it
Speaker 3: was my Well, it was a collective we said.
Speaker 1: We didn't want to to get to get money off
Speaker 1: of that. We didn't We didn't understand what was going on.
Speaker 1: Like I could honestly say that that was a life
Speaker 1: changing experience for me. It was again I did not
Speaker 1: know me having him on my platform makes my platform
Speaker 1: somewhat guilty or somewhat coson that even though we said
Speaker 1: prior to it, this has nothing to do with us,
Speaker 1: the views of this man is this man We said that, But.
Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, it's like,
Speaker 3: like you're also like a journalist now, whether you know
Speaker 3: it or not. So it's like you're you're documenting like
Speaker 3: the state of mind of Kanye West at that given moment,
Speaker 3: which is important in culture, right.
Speaker 2: But I say all that to say that, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I love that. I'm gonna be honest. It was fun.
Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious. The man is a genius.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I saw it in your face
Speaker 1: what the ship was going on. You were just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this ship's.
Speaker 2: About to go. Yeah I did, I did. I did.
Speaker 1: And to tell you, I won't tell you who, but
Speaker 1: the people who control the algorithms called me and said,
Speaker 1: you're beating football. Like our numbers was going so crazy.
Speaker 1: We were beating Sunday night football. Remember we dropped it Sunday.
Speaker 2: Dropped it was on a road trip when you dropped it.
Speaker 2: It was Sunday we dropped it.
Speaker 1: I remember he recorded it Saturday night and I he
Speaker 1: just was like, let's drop it tomorrow. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I did not look at editing. I did not look
Speaker 2: at it was just one part I took out.
Speaker 1: I took out the Martin Luther King thing when he
Speaker 1: spoke about George Floyd.
Speaker 2: And but you know it was it was a life
Speaker 2: teaching lesson.
Speaker 1: And I now know that I have somewhat of a responsibility,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And sometimes I don't. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't. It's like with Kodak Black. Like Kodak Black
Speaker 1: was almost as controversy. Right he came up, he stood up.
Speaker 1: I never see the niggas just stand up, so I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be like sit down, so he was
Speaker 1: just standing up. And I'm looking, by the way, I
Speaker 1: love Kodak Black. That's that's like he's he doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to act.
Speaker 2: That's him.
Speaker 1: If you've ever been to Promeno, you ever been to Promenad,
Speaker 1: That's that's how that these people act. That's that they're
Speaker 1: crazy out there. So Kodak we see the a lot
Speaker 1: of slack.
Speaker 3: Was it was the slack because he's obviously like dealing
Speaker 3: with some abuse of substances. And obviously when you bring
Speaker 3: somebody who's maybe going through that on a drink Champ
Speaker 3: show and you're like, yo, let's get sucked up. You
Speaker 3: do you understand? But these are also adults. We're talking
Speaker 3: about grown ups here. So that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: DMX is is one of my closest friends, not Rapps
Speaker 1: friend friends, closest friend. Our second episode was with DMX.
Speaker 1: I remember that's the first time we written number one,
Speaker 1: The first time I've ever had like a clash for
Speaker 1: rough riders, like they hated that interview, like and little
Speaker 1: do you know, Like, I'm just learning how to I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever told this story.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell him. I I'm learning how to be
Speaker 2: a podcast. I know.
Speaker 1: I got an advantage because I have a relationship. I'm a rapper,
Speaker 1: right and DMX is my friend. So mister Lee tells me, Yo,
Speaker 1: DMX is at the a loft. He said, come check them.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, come check him. So I'm
Speaker 1: coming there to say, Yo, can you do my podcast?
Speaker 1: So I said podcast? And he's like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to go to the park. You know a part in jail.
Speaker 2: He's like, what the part.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, it's a podcast. Like
Speaker 1: no one knows what the podcast is.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So as I'm about to ask DMX, it can ask
Speaker 1: mister Lee. I'm about to ask them can you do
Speaker 1: my show? His cousin calls, so one of his boys go, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is your cousin on the phone.
Speaker 2: What what up?
Speaker 1: He goes, hey, aks man Because as volume is real,
Speaker 1: real loud, so I can hear the cousin even.
Speaker 2: If he has here.
Speaker 1: He goes, you know, can you go to ninety nine
Speaker 1: jams and me It's like, joh, what was that. It's
Speaker 1: like the radio station, you know where college works out.
Speaker 1: I don't do interviews. It hangs up. Meanwhile, I'm about
Speaker 1: to ask him to do an interview, so I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: She's like, what up, what's going on? You smoke a cigarette?
Speaker 2: I think I was smoking a cigarette at the time.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I smoking a cigaretteorybe I just
Speaker 1: wanted to smoke because the DMS was smoking.
Speaker 2: He's like all right, cool, and I'm like, okay, you
Speaker 2: can you can you do my show?
Speaker 1: I don't do shows. I'm like, it's not a show though,
Speaker 1: it's a conversation.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be building.
Speaker 1: She's like, all right, cool, come back at our.
Speaker 2: All right cool. Episode two.
Speaker 1: We we leave to go get the equipment. We come
Speaker 1: back exits full fledged.
Speaker 2: Bent Jesus off. Yeah, he was so well ship. Yeah
Speaker 2: when we left. By the time you get back gets
Speaker 2: over already.
Speaker 1: The whole Hennessy By the way, it was two hendesities
Speaker 1: like this. I come back, they gone, But it doesn't
Speaker 1: hit me that they drank this shit. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm so focused on trying to make this happen. So
Speaker 1: if you look at that episode, that's in the middle
Speaker 1: of the A loft lobby. I couldn't get DMX to
Speaker 1: go upstairs.
Speaker 2: So you guys shot that episode in the A loft lobby,
Speaker 2: the A loft lobby. Yo.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine you're going to checking to your fucking
Speaker 3: hotel and DMX and knowing you're having a fucking podcast
Speaker 3: in the lobby.
Speaker 2: And smoking in the lobby A loft didn't care, Yo.
Speaker 1: They were like they was DMS had like sixteen rooms
Speaker 1: there like at the time. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember that episode he starts to cry. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then that night I went with him to a show
Speaker 1: and he cried. He was crying like this this whole night.
Speaker 1: He was one of the emotional times. And this is
Speaker 1: like kind of like at the time where people weren't
Speaker 1: accepting that, you know what I mean, Like people were
Speaker 1: just finding out that he was going through something, right.
Speaker 1: I remember getting the car. I can't say who, because
Speaker 1: I don't know if I had to say this. They
Speaker 1: was like, yo, man, you got our brother looking bad.
Speaker 1: And I remember calling X and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know, like were you cool with this. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: we had fun dog and it's like me, X, we
Speaker 1: always had this crazy relationship. Like I met X in
Speaker 1: river Park Towers. Do you ever heard of River Park Towers?
Speaker 1: River Park Towers is the worst part is they say
Speaker 1: it's the worst part of New York City. I was
Speaker 1: in river Park Towers one night and they.
Speaker 2: Threw refrigerator off the roof.
Speaker 1: Do you know how that sounds?
Speaker 2: Not a mini fridge, you know, a fridge of fight.
Speaker 1: You hear the air going in and out of the
Speaker 1: doors are probably swinging boom like you think of earthquake,
Speaker 1: and no one's flinching. They're used to this. Oh man, man,
Speaker 1: I'm there one night with Homie and DMX pulls up
Speaker 1: with his lawyer and a drop top with six dogs
Speaker 1: in it, and the lawyer is just getting licked all
Speaker 1: over his face. The lawyer does not want to be here.
Speaker 1: The lawyer is getting licked. I'm looking and I'm like, X,
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? He's like, what are you
Speaker 1: doing here?
Speaker 2: Mom? I'm like, we're both out of line? What were
Speaker 2: you doing? I was with my man six.
Speaker 1: He was banned from Latin Quarters and all of us,
Speaker 1: we were all banned from order clubs in New York City,
Speaker 1: but he was in particularly bad from Latin Quarters. That
Speaker 1: was the only place that we were able to go to.
Speaker 1: So after the end of the night, I just went
Speaker 1: to go see him and that's what happened. But DMX
Speaker 1: was there. DMX he had never let that story live down.
Speaker 1: He will always say, you'll nor be in places where
Speaker 1: rappers don't and it was by default.
Speaker 3: Nor what is your The evolution of the space, the
Speaker 3: media space is obviously turned a lot to Uh, the
Speaker 3: streamers are getting a lot of Yeah, I like the streamers, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I like I love Kai, But you know, I was
Speaker 3: I had a conversation with Simba.
Speaker 2: I think we're talking. I was talking with Symbol Symbol
Speaker 2: from the Bay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we were talking about you know, a lot
Speaker 3: of these streamers have said some pretty fucked up ship.
Speaker 3: They're obviously not hip hop fans, but they're but they
Speaker 3: get access to these artists, and I always say, well, like,
Speaker 3: it ain't their fault that artists are validating their platforms,
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, if someone goes
Speaker 3: on Aiden Ross, it's validating his ship. So but I'm
Speaker 3: just curious, what is your thoughts just on this evolution
Speaker 3: of the space and.
Speaker 1: One overall, I love, I love, I love seeing workspaces
Speaker 1: being created.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure because for every you know, it's a
Speaker 2: new stream of revenue.
Speaker 1: Yes, And for every streamer they have their friends that
Speaker 1: they put on, Like I love the fact that I've
Speaker 1: seen Coss now I've never met him.
Speaker 2: Before, nobody's put on so many people. Yeah, I've seen.
Speaker 1: Them say the bet Awar was like, if you guys,
Speaker 1: don't let my friend and then you guys, I'm lead,
Speaker 1: I'm leaving.
Speaker 2: I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: And people people often think that that's like, you know,
Speaker 1: like artists showing their muscles, but it's actually it's actually
Speaker 1: comfortability somewhat thing like if we were all broke together,
Speaker 1: if we were all had nothing, and and and now
Speaker 1: I'm at a certain spot, I can't. I can't go
Speaker 1: to mister Child's and tell my friend the way outside.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I can't these stream beings.
Speaker 1: He has to take some of these stream beings to
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you gotta and and so
Speaker 1: that's what I love about the streaming. Now, now you
Speaker 1: see an elder artist getting into streaming and they're not
Speaker 1: doing it.
Speaker 2: The right way.
Speaker 1: I think that these kids. I think this is the
Speaker 1: kids game. Yes, Like so if I was the stream,
Speaker 1: I would have my son's stream and I would be
Speaker 1: up on, but it wouldn't be my stream because like
Speaker 1: when I see elder artists and I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: their names. You noticed it onst listen all my scenes
Speaker 1: and loving hip hop is I love, But you can
Speaker 1: just tell like he's just doing it to do stern
Speaker 1: ship and he's bringing up ship, which.
Speaker 2: I prefer by the way, I love him and Amber
Speaker 2: as well on ray J Amber when.
Speaker 3: She just said she'd let him eat eating with that part,
Speaker 3: come on, they're fishing for clip I love, I love.
Speaker 1: But that's the part when when ray j is streaming
Speaker 1: and he says about Suka Yano, he says that sexually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're just you're just fishing for So
Speaker 2: that's to me, that's not what's streaming. They're called clip
Speaker 2: farming to me.
Speaker 1: To me, the reason why streaming is successful is because
Speaker 1: these guys are actually staying six hours, six seven hours,
Speaker 1: and they staying in the same room, they're gaming, they're
Speaker 1: they're so that's to me not clipbait. Yeah yeah, clip
Speaker 1: click do that on your show, Go Come comes down
Speaker 1: to drink. Champions Network' gonna get you a chain, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And we're gonna get you do
Speaker 1: that on your own show, because I think that you're
Speaker 1: you're you're you're taking away from the streamers when you're
Speaker 1: doing you're not doing it out there doing it makes
Speaker 1: them saying like if you're going to do it, like
Speaker 1: I would have my son study cos and not see
Speaker 1: how they're doing it. See what would apartment go good
Speaker 1: to Airbnb like his ship? Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like like like follow the rules of of of of
Speaker 1: of of the path.
Speaker 3: What has been the interview that has for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: uh just not happened. That's that the people want that
Speaker 3: you want. It's just for whatever reason, it just hasn't
Speaker 3: come together.
Speaker 1: Well, we did jay Z without the cameras, right, jay
Speaker 1: Z on camera?
Speaker 2: That's different, right, you know.
Speaker 1: Jay Z and Drake will be by It's it.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's Yeah, I feel like I feel
Speaker 3: like that's the other thing that kind of I think
Speaker 3: as somebody who's like Yo.
Speaker 2: Drake Man go on go on Dream Champs, going.
Speaker 3: Like, you don't have to go little fucking Canadian white
Speaker 3: boys sit with fucking literally and like, man, I'm Drake fan.
Speaker 2: You're not You're not an unsafe space. You're not gonna
Speaker 2: trying to fuck it.
Speaker 1: I'm pro artist. I'm pro artists the first time. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something.
Speaker 2: Just I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not pitching hoochs, but I'm gonna just be honest.
Speaker 1: The first time I met Drake, he came up to
Speaker 1: me and said, Yo, the reason why I wear camouflage
Speaker 1: is because the war report. And I was like what
Speaker 1: And I was like what, and then I was like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And then he did he curve me. I was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I want to get a joint with you. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just hit bird Man. I was like, I know, I
Speaker 1: know that hit bird Man and he had no idea
Speaker 1: bird Man lifted my block.
Speaker 2: At that hit Birdman pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah basically, yeah, yeah, basically, but I thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: And this is when he was verse getting in the game,
Speaker 1: so he didn't know that I knew what he was doing.
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty much I know curve society. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: majored in it. Jada Kiss Majors in Curved society. If
Speaker 1: you want Jada Kiss, he by the way, so reliable.
Speaker 1: But then when Jada get.
Speaker 3: On this ship Curve Nathaniel, I somehow I tried to
Speaker 3: do my own version of Curver. I try to do
Speaker 3: my own version of a DJ Khaled record, and I
Speaker 3: had Jada Kiss on it, and I somehow got him
Speaker 3: to hang out in the hood of South Side Phoenix
Speaker 3: and shoot a music video for me.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, he's he's ninety percent.
Speaker 3: And I realized, like afterwards, oh, that was a feat
Speaker 3: that I pulled off because since then, I've tried to
Speaker 3: put money in Jada Kiss's pocket and I'm like, dog,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to book you up my fucking club.
Speaker 2: What are we doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an organic guy, he's and I respect it.
Speaker 1: Like if it's like I I like like, I like
Speaker 1: NAS is the best. I agree, like, like it's about Curve.
Speaker 3: Oh the super cur I mean to me, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that's that's my But like NAS is my
Speaker 3: bucket list interview.
Speaker 2: I don't think it will ever happen.
Speaker 3: But you know, oh no, no, no, about life, like
Speaker 3: just in general, how to move with life, Like NAS
Speaker 3: has always been a Genie.
Speaker 1: He feels that way, you know what, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like he'll come, you can see him Monday,
Speaker 1: but then he just disappears, bro like like he appears
Speaker 1: on Thurs. Like it's just it's just who he is,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I just love that ship.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like he has never let the Internet
Speaker 1: take over him, now you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you know, like literally literally the other day, bro, I
Speaker 1: see one of I was talking to one of my
Speaker 1: friends and we had nothing to talk about, you know what.
Speaker 1: His whole life was on Instagram. He's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: went to Great Adventures, I saw I was. I went
Speaker 1: to the felt like I was there with you. I
Speaker 1: went to the Louis Store for Yeah, I saw you
Speaker 1: put burpost. Yeah you showed me the waffles.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Like like like you put your whole life on Instagram
Speaker 1: that I actually have nothing to talk to you about
Speaker 1: in personal Nas does not do that.
Speaker 2: Hata don't do that. So that's the reason why you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I do feel like too, like
Speaker 2: quietly like what Master appeals doing. Oh that's dope. It's
Speaker 2: special tough Like the single with Nas the.
Speaker 1: Movie got a movie Victory, They got the ray kwont
Speaker 1: the ray Koron of documentary Ghost.
Speaker 2: They're doing so much. Supreme Clientele too. Is a Supreme
Speaker 2: hotel too?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Massive pill is doing real And then they got
Speaker 1: the queens get the paper.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, they invited me the day of Come on, Peter,
Speaker 1: give me a little better than that. Now.
Speaker 2: I think it's been dope. I think it's been dope
Speaker 2: to see uh.
Speaker 3: Just I mean, I feel like all the ship, I
Speaker 3: feel like people don't understand, like the investment.
Speaker 2: I feel like Nas invested in ring cameras. I think
Speaker 2: that sounds Yeah, it's just true.
Speaker 1: Yea. And we about to go to his restaurant right now,
Speaker 1: what is it? Coco deck is and any of the
Speaker 1: waffle spot in l A. You know he got two
Speaker 1: three of them in New York. You got three of them.
Speaker 2: He's he's he's heavy investor.
Speaker 3: He's also not he doesn't brand it outwardly like I
Speaker 3: feel like when we think a hole like it was
Speaker 3: purposely like early on in the whole ship, like he
Speaker 3: was trying to run with like Russell, and I feel.
Speaker 1: Like Na's just in it.
Speaker 2: Like you said, he's an introvert.
Speaker 1: Yes, naturally. You know he just opened up uh coate,
Speaker 1: not coc with, not coke, with that quit and and
Speaker 1: uh in Manhattan and he had Brad Pitt with him.
Speaker 1: And to me, that's like, that's the level he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be at. He's not supposed to be arguing about
Speaker 1: him who's better in another MC. He's supposed to be
Speaker 1: arguing about who do I invite Brad Pitt or Angelie
Speaker 1: Joe Lee because they got beef.
Speaker 2: That's what I.
Speaker 1: Want to be in life. I want to I want
Speaker 1: to I want to do I invite Denzel, Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is what I want to do.
Speaker 1: Like I see you getting there. Se. I've seen Gilly.
Speaker 1: I've seen Gilly and and and and Willow who you know.
Speaker 1: I know Gilly his whole career, and I've seen him
Speaker 1: meet Tom Brady and the other day and Brady knew exactly.
Speaker 1: The made me so happy. I was so happy because
Speaker 1: you know what, let me just tell you something. Gilly
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a star back then.
Speaker 2: He was one.
Speaker 1: He was one hit away from being a star. He
Speaker 1: could have been a bitter guy. He could have been
Speaker 1: the guy that, but instead he jumped in the podcast
Speaker 1: space where people can't blackball him. If that's true or not.
Speaker 1: He said that he was being black ball but people
Speaker 1: can't black boy and he's having fun, and he's having
Speaker 1: fun in his forties, running around, racing people, just playing ball.
Speaker 1: I still think I bust his ass, but he definitely.
Speaker 2: Can't with me. No no, no no, let me let him
Speaker 2: have it. Let me let him have it. He can
Speaker 2: have the basketball, but but.
Speaker 1: Me seeing that, me seeing that him get to the
Speaker 1: success that he's at and he can still be fans
Speaker 1: like I love that. We should never stop being fans.
Speaker 1: Like I tell that to nows all the time. I
Speaker 1: say yo, man, and Buster rhymes and I say yo,
Speaker 1: Just because I get to call you when I could
Speaker 1: I could call you, That doesn't mean that takes away
Speaker 1: from illmatic for me. That doesn't mean it takes away
Speaker 1: from everything. Like Buster basically taught me how to perform right,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. This is certain things.
Speaker 1: So it's like I want to be at that level.
Speaker 1: I want to keep going.
Speaker 2: I want to. I want to. I want to, I
Speaker 2: want to. I want to go to that grown level.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't. I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do I don't want to do what's popular.
Speaker 1: I want to do what makes me comfortable. I want
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying, I want to.
Speaker 2: Do like that, And that's that's that's that's that's, that's
Speaker 2: what it is. Hey, you gotta stop the interview. You
Speaker 2: want to get a shout out. Man. The only thing
Speaker 2: we smoke, ladies and gentlemen is slap woods. That's right.
Speaker 3: Make sure you follow them at slap woods. And you
Speaker 3: know the reason why we smoked flat woods. It's literally
Speaker 3: because they slap You can't smoke a slap woos. What
Speaker 3: the fuck are you doing? Get back to you.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: At this point in time, have you made more money
Speaker 3: podcasting or from your career because you have platinum records
Speaker 3: and you were in it when the money was stupid.
Speaker 1: It's really hard to say. I always get asked that question,
Speaker 1: but I can tell you this, there's nothing like being
Speaker 1: the platinum artist. I'm being honest with you. Look at
Speaker 1: a person who they first go platinum and look at
Speaker 1: that spot.
Speaker 2: It's different, right. I listen to me, I.
Speaker 1: Promise you if I could get another hit, record, I can.
Speaker 1: I can show you how to talk for two year.
Speaker 1: That's that was my bread and butter was torn right.
Speaker 1: So being a platinum artist traveling and see this is
Speaker 1: the reason why it's difficult for me to answer that
Speaker 1: question because at one point.
Speaker 2: I was going from.
Speaker 1: Copona Noriega's show at six pm, drive to the other
Speaker 1: side through a reggae th Norri show, and then at
Speaker 1: night do a solo Norri homeboy, I came to party show.
Speaker 2: What the fuck I said? At one point I was
Speaker 2: doing that. You were like the DJ Camillo of rappers.
Speaker 2: Just think about it. Just think about it.
Speaker 1: If I'm in Germany, I can do an hour in
Speaker 1: du Zudorff. As long as I'm not performing in that city,
Speaker 1: that contract is still Valley, and I can go to Berlin.
Speaker 1: I can drive to Berlin, and then from Berlin, I can.
Speaker 2: Drive to Frankfort. Get it Get run it up. Norriy
Speaker 2: has a different audience thin Copponent or yet Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's different than the reggae.
Speaker 1: It's different than the reggaet All I gotta do is
Speaker 1: add Big Beto with me, or asked Daddy Yank and
Speaker 1: somebody to come out and we have. I can actually
Speaker 1: do three shows a night if I wanted to. It's exhausting,
Speaker 1: and at one point I had to do it. But
Speaker 1: so if you ask me what makes more, now, podcasting
Speaker 1: is the easier money. Why Because I can look and
Speaker 1: I can say what kind of watches that it's just
Speaker 1: an Apple watch. I can say the Apple. I can
Speaker 1: say Apple, I got Bootleg Kevin on my show this week.
Speaker 1: His algorithm is this, and Apple can say, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: we'll give you these ads for such and such. So
Speaker 1: now I don't get get no callouses.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: It's not a long conversation. It's so it's an easier
Speaker 1: process as opposed to I gotta deal with scumbag promoters.
Speaker 1: Every promoter is a scumbag. I mean like, oh God,
Speaker 1: you have a dealt with the promoter.
Speaker 2: Ye, I mean they're gonna come up with every excuse possible.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to because of the game is to
Speaker 1: get over on you. They have to make money, they
Speaker 1: have to pay you, and then they have to make
Speaker 1: money off of you.
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to hit you with your own game
Speaker 3: before we leave. You're either or let's go all right,
Speaker 3: let's go with big pun or d m X.
Speaker 1: I'll take a shot, but I'm gonna go Big Pun more.
Speaker 2: Because I had a longer friendship.
Speaker 1: Friendship with Big Pun me and X. Relationship was great
Speaker 1: in the beginning, in the middle we lost, and then
Speaker 1: at the end it was it was I was with
Speaker 1: the m X every day before he died. And then
Speaker 1: remember he went to Atlanta. He had left Miami. He
Speaker 1: went to Atlanta. He shot the video with Benning the Butcher,
Speaker 1: which he never even met, Benning the Butcher. I introduced
Speaker 1: him to being the butcher. Benning the Busher will tell
Speaker 1: you this. So that Billy's stone Craft. That was our
Speaker 1: meeting in the parking lot. We had meetings every day.
Speaker 1: But I went to Atlanta and then he went to
Speaker 1: New York and then that he passed away.
Speaker 2: But Pharrell or Capone, Yeah, I'm taking a shot for that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So so farm two for I got two good ones
Speaker 2: so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I would actually lean more towards Copone because
Speaker 1: of the same reason. Yeah, the same reason like we
Speaker 1: got yes, came in the game together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a lot more. But for us up
Speaker 2: there with me j Z or not. I gotta go
Speaker 2: now because.
Speaker 1: The queens, you know, what I'm saying, but in the
Speaker 1: any given day, it would be both. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but I mean now, it's the reason why
Speaker 1: I'm rapping like Illmatic when I when I I was
Speaker 1: about to say when I saw Illmatic, because that's how
Speaker 1: I saw Almatic.
Speaker 2: I didn't hear Illmatic.
Speaker 1: I saw Illmatic like I just when I heard that album.
Speaker 1: I knew those Queensbridge blocks. I knew the pissy elevator
Speaker 1: he was talking about. I knew the project window he
Speaker 1: was talking about. I knew the garbage can that he
Speaker 1: talked about. I knew the crackhare that he said that
Speaker 1: the bottle could have struck the lottle.
Speaker 2: I knew that guy. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: So that's the reason why I would have to go
Speaker 1: that is because he wrote an album for me, even
Speaker 1: though he didn't write the album, but it was for
Speaker 1: you that it was for me. I claim it to
Speaker 1: this day, Like he like, when you around him, I
Speaker 1: bring up a Matic, He'll turn his head and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, I don't care. That album changed my life,
Speaker 1: Like that album means more than me than anything. And
Speaker 1: then I became a.
Speaker 3: Rapper podcast edition Then okay, let's go millions of dollars
Speaker 3: worth of game or Joe Way or your buddy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot for that. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a shot for that. I love them both, and I
Speaker 1: love when they beefing too. I love it, like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, because because we're getting too much money
Speaker 1: to really be beefing, right, So they're not beefing. So
Speaker 1: if you see me and dollar worth of a game
Speaker 1: beefing with Joe, they're not beefing. They're doing what we're
Speaker 1: supposed to do. We're being competitive. But I remember Gilly
Speaker 1: because I told her Gilly. I didn't tell it to
Speaker 1: Wallow and Gilly was like, oh man, because we really
Speaker 1: didn't know what we were doing in the beginning. So
Speaker 1: we had Gilly with Shaggy. It wasn't me ship don't
Speaker 1: even go together, right, all of your faces look like
Speaker 1: what like? We had Gilly with Shaggy on the podcast
Speaker 1: and Gilly was like, yo, you don't put out the
Speaker 1: weed and I was like, nah, it's like you really drink.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, so you just be you and
Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, I would like to think
Speaker 1: that I was one of he says it he says,
Speaker 1: me and tax Stone. He says that me and tax
Speaker 1: Stone is the reason why, uh they got into podcast space.
Speaker 1: And I love that because, you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: Gilly listened to me. I feel like Math Hafa listened
Speaker 1: to me. I'm saying math, Math is doing phenomenal. He's
Speaker 1: independent like Math, like a lot of people don't. And
Speaker 1: he sees ship when he had Fat Joe on the thing,
Speaker 1: but he's independent like and that ship is hard.
Speaker 2: Like. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: I've been independent and I've been major, and I tell
Speaker 1: you I like Major more than I like independent.
Speaker 2: You gotta do everything yourself.
Speaker 1: You you might, you make him, you make him, make
Speaker 1: it more independently. Eventually you get higher per percentage.
Speaker 2: But I like the four seasons. I'm not a Motel
Speaker 2: six dude.
Speaker 1: I'm a Saint Regis guy. I am not a first
Speaker 1: It's amazing, but that's not what I want. I want caviar.
Speaker 3: I get it, and you do drink expensive liquor. You
Speaker 3: gave me a shot of some ship when we were
Speaker 3: in Tampa, and it's like Japanese.
Speaker 2: Whiskey Yamazaki eighteen.
Speaker 1: That's that's just that's jay Z's favorite drink Yamazaki eighteen one.
Speaker 2: It's two fifty a shot. DJ Vladder Elliott Wilson, that's
Speaker 2: a good one. I just pulled that out of my ass,
Speaker 2: by the way.
Speaker 1: You know, funny ironically enough, go DJ Black explain. I
Speaker 1: like DJ Black, I always did. I just think that
Speaker 1: he's he's a he's a stubborn guy.
Speaker 2: He is, for sure, he's a stubborn guy.
Speaker 1: But he when he believes in his morals. And I
Speaker 1: like the fact that me and him, like we had
Speaker 1: our little ship and he admitted it, like he admitted
Speaker 1: like his far.
Speaker 3: I like that, like whether you like him, whether you
Speaker 3: like him or not, he's an absolute pioneer.
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's that's a man to me. And then
Speaker 1: he came to see me by himself. You know, he
Speaker 1: usually with security, and he came to see me by hisself.
Speaker 1: He went to Autaro, sat there, drank all night, just boss.
Speaker 1: And it was like to me, that's a man. Like
Speaker 1: if you everything I'm gonna do is not gonna please you.
Speaker 1: For sure, you can't please everybody. I'm not gonna please me.
Speaker 1: But the fact is, if you thought I was offended
Speaker 1: of something off I offended or something and I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, I didn't mean that.
Speaker 2: That's not That's not how I meant it.
Speaker 1: So you know, can we move on and then we
Speaker 1: move on and then it's admirably in this and everything
Speaker 1: I got. You gotta like you gotta respect that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I love the fact that
Speaker 1: he brought Lord Jamal back on.
Speaker 2: Shout to Lord Jamar. He has team Jordan's we gotta
Speaker 2: we gotta fix that.
Speaker 1: That was He's got the Mexican Jays. Look he had,
Speaker 1: he had the hectors, he had the hectors on. Yes,
Speaker 1: Lord Jamore, listen, I would not come at you. You know,
Speaker 1: I love you, Lorjamoon. If I had your number, I
Speaker 1: would have texted Jordan's you had you had Jordan's that
Speaker 1: Jordans wouldn't wear like not even the baby Jordan when
Speaker 1: we were at come on Logamo. But that's my man.
Speaker 1: And I love the fact that they both of them,
Speaker 1: they had a great relationship and they had great content together.
Speaker 2: So I love that, man.
Speaker 1: I love hip hop growing. I love this ship like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love like, you know, we can
Speaker 2: make mistakes and move on last one. Newer shows.
Speaker 3: Okay, it is what it is, Cameron and Mace versus
Speaker 3: Joe and Jada's show. Now, I want you to dispel
Speaker 3: your relationships with either of them. Which show have you
Speaker 3: enjoyed the most?
Speaker 1: I gotta go with it.
Speaker 2: It is what it is.
Speaker 1: I see Joe and Jada's show every day in real life.
Speaker 1: You're like, Yeah, this is just what we do in
Speaker 1: the car, right, this is this is just he had
Speaker 1: fucking Makoto's right with Joe. And I'm talking about me,
Speaker 1: me and Joe and it could be eight ladies. He
Speaker 1: still has the same story. Kill everybody, chill Joe. Let's
Speaker 1: let's have some soup. Brother, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But so and I, me and Cam supposed the other
Speaker 1: day I posted a picture Cam is being him as well.
Speaker 1: The gam and Mace dynamic is special. And think about
Speaker 1: it is he was smart enough to say, let me
Speaker 1: let Mace be Mace. Everyone knews new Cam's personality, everyone
Speaker 1: knew that he had like it. It's dope personalities and
Speaker 1: hip hop. Right when you think of it, it's fat Joe,
Speaker 1: it's uh Nori, it's camra on his trick.
Speaker 2: Daddy boozy.
Speaker 1: What's boozy part of Webby Webb? You need a forgoddamn podcast,
Speaker 1: have Webb? I'm looking for I've been looking for you
Speaker 1: high love. I know I can't fie. Booty's booty gonna
Speaker 1: say give me?
Speaker 2: He gonna want to stamp. I feel like I feel
Speaker 2: like I paid books.
Speaker 1: He didn't even pay them, like because he just but Webby,
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he deserved a podcast, all right. So look man,
Speaker 1: but I gotta go with let me because those those
Speaker 1: are the the personalities. But here's what I did though.
Speaker 1: I forgot how funny Mace was hilarious. I forgot totally
Speaker 1: because Mace was always kind of like the pretty boy,
Speaker 1: and you forget about the skits that he had on
Speaker 1: the album where he was making fun. He was showing
Speaker 1: you his personality. But when you got to see them
Speaker 1: actually performed. Because when when you're doing a podcast, you're
Speaker 1: doing a show. I don't give a fuck what you're thinking.
Speaker 1: You're not just talking, we're performing. If you're a hip
Speaker 1: hop artist, you're a natural performer. That's why when you
Speaker 1: talk and you see somebody that comes to your show,
Speaker 1: they always look at the crowd.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying to you is important. But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying to them, are they catching? It's a natural person
Speaker 1: that performs when you get to see Cam and Jada performed.
Speaker 1: I mean Cam and Mace perform when they're sitting there,
Speaker 1: even down to the popcorn, even down to the suits,
Speaker 1: because they're mocking when why didn't wearing suits?
Speaker 2: They're mocking the.
Speaker 1: Sports guys and they're saying, look, I'm looking better than
Speaker 1: y'all and I'm doing.
Speaker 2: It hip hop and I own this ship.
Speaker 1: And I own this ship. That to me, I can't
Speaker 1: I can't compare nothing to that. And you can see
Speaker 1: the set like you can actually you can actually see
Speaker 1: the budget come in on the set. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know, like when they first had the budget,
Speaker 1: look good.
Speaker 2: Oh the ship they're doing in Vegas right now.
Speaker 1: But then you can tell when the budget came in,
Speaker 1: the cameras got brighter.
Speaker 2: That a show. I love that.
Speaker 1: So I so you said no no relationship involved?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 1: That is that is? That is the show. And the
Speaker 1: fact is we a lot of people don't even understand.
Speaker 1: They're not even are They're not even anybody's competition.
Speaker 2: There's nobody else who's doing what they're doing. They're in sports.
Speaker 2: They're doing a They're not they.
Speaker 1: Don't even come up on the hip hop They are
Speaker 1: a sports wow. Yeah, So like anybody mad at them,
Speaker 1: you're actually an idiot.
Speaker 2: I just don't understand anybody who's mad at anybody.
Speaker 1: But now Jada and Joe's show at first was being
Speaker 1: called a sports show, and I was like, yo, y'all, lose, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all little fat at first. But now they talk about
Speaker 1: other ship. But it was a little foul at first.
Speaker 2: The network is live Go support man.
Speaker 1: Bleak Yes, and we got Angela Simmons wrapping up. She
Speaker 1: also did run Chaps. We got the Healthy Champs show.
Speaker 1: I'm doing New York City Marathon.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there a Smoke Champs you were gonna do we
Speaker 2: have smoke chants.
Speaker 1: No, we have smoke chan No, well, currency and.
Speaker 3: You were gonna do one I know, currency and someone
Speaker 3: else currency and smoke smoke.
Speaker 1: It was gonna be they still they still could do it,
Speaker 1: but we have Smoked Champs as well. And right right now,
Speaker 1: like I said, we're just getting our stuff together because
Speaker 1: right now hip hop hip hop media will be hip hop,
Speaker 1: meaning like I thought about it right, Charlotamagne hit me
Speaker 1: or Envy hit me and say, hey, you know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come up there. I'm gonna come up there a
Speaker 1: day earlier, and easily I could just hit one of
Speaker 1: my friends, Bootleg Cab. Are you in town? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come fly and see you say I'm going
Speaker 1: to New York. I'm going to New York tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Let's go look at that.
Speaker 1: This is my friends, right, I'm leaving here, I'm going
Speaker 1: to Cocoa Deck. Then I'm going to see Joe Bidden, right, like,
Speaker 1: I can control this ship at any point that I
Speaker 1: want through my relationships.
Speaker 2: Do this do my friends? Like for people? Because right
Speaker 2: now drink chances.
Speaker 1: We have a built in audience, right, so no matter what,
Speaker 1: it's gonna do these numbers.
Speaker 2: But now I do Bootleg Kev's show, Pickup, you pick up,
Speaker 2: So we have audiences.
Speaker 1: Right now, hip hop is going to finally control hip hop.
Speaker 1: Like I was saying earlier, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: say a hill, if I said over there, like I
Speaker 1: can actually see the algorithms of where you belong. You
Speaker 1: know you used to go to Scottsdale, Arizona, and used
Speaker 1: to go there, and it's.
Speaker 2: Before people show up to your show, and you know three.
Speaker 1: Of them, it's because you don't belong there. The algorithm
Speaker 1: shows you that you just didn't look at it. Right now,
Speaker 1: we can see that, and I can see Bootleg keV
Speaker 1: you you you. They like you in Tampa, go back,
Speaker 1: they like you in Jacksonville, go back. Oh, but they
Speaker 1: don't funk with you in Milwaukee, stay away, Stay away, Utah.
Speaker 2: Nobody want to go to a bailey.
Speaker 3: Don't want to go Utah, Denver, don't go like you
Speaker 3: can look and see that.
Speaker 2: That's that's That's where I'm at in life, having fun.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, man, I appreciate your time, bro. The Yeah,
Speaker 3: congrats on everything. Bro, it's been dope to watch everything.
Speaker 2: Just you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're one of the standards. You're one
Speaker 3: of the one of the one of the guys.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: And by the way, let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: I'll watch you all the time. I got the acts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your most viral clip, big Boogie, the college guy, the
Speaker 1: five million for College Oh my god. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, this is me asking as a pure fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never met the guy.
Speaker 2: I like him.
Speaker 1: I like his music. Yeah, never met him, never seen
Speaker 1: him in person. This is nothing against him. I'm listening,
Speaker 1: nothing against that. What was that phone call like after
Speaker 1: that went viral? Did he call you so.
Speaker 2: To be? I didn't think he understood the question or
Speaker 2: did he?
Speaker 3: I will say this because I'm real tight with Brittany
Speaker 3: from CMG. So the interview comes out and it starts
Speaker 3: to go up and I get a call essentially asking
Speaker 3: if I can remove it, and I'm like, well, it's already.
Speaker 2: Kind of too late.
Speaker 3: And you know, at this point, I'm DM and him
Speaker 3: back and forth like we're laughing about it because it
Speaker 3: had really like started to go super viral like six
Speaker 3: months after the interview.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't immediately.
Speaker 3: There was a moment initially, but then it like went
Speaker 3: absolutely batshit crazy on Twitter, and so him and I
Speaker 3: am like, bro, do you see this fucking tweet? This
Speaker 3: tweet's got like fucking eight million views. So I'm dming.
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you gotta spin the block. We gotta.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't back. The call that was interesting was
Speaker 2: I had EStG walk out.
Speaker 3: Okay, so EStG same camp CMG, and I you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how much you guys do
Speaker 2: with like label reps and ship.
Speaker 3: But as soon as that, as soon as the EStG
Speaker 3: leaves the interview, I look at my cake, my guy,
Speaker 3: I said, upload that motherfucker and make it live, right,
Speaker 3: I said, because I already know what's gonna happen. The
Speaker 3: labe's gonna leave, They're gonna call hey, just make sure
Speaker 3: let's be clear we're not dropping that. So as soon
Speaker 3: is he, I said, yo, put that bitch on YouTube
Speaker 3: right the fuck now, because I already knew.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this motherfucker wasted my fucking afternoon.
Speaker 3: He was two hours late fucking his a dickhead, like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna at least go viral with this.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That was more of a call than the big boogie
Speaker 3: shit I think was. It felt innocent and funny, and
Speaker 3: you know, listen, he's got some big records.
Speaker 2: I get stopped. You know, I did an NBA Young
Speaker 2: Boy interview.
Speaker 3: That for a while, like every like seventeen year old
Speaker 3: like black kid in the world would stop me and
Speaker 3: be like.
Speaker 2: You you were at you were at Grave Digger Mountain.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what demographic of human being. I get
Speaker 2: stopped three four times a day.
Speaker 3: He turned it down, and so it's like, obviously he looked,
Speaker 3: he looked goofy.
Speaker 2: He was lying.
Speaker 3: But it also to me, it was like it was funny.
Speaker 3: People people probably say that shit to him. I can't
Speaker 3: imagine him being him. How many times.
Speaker 2: They tell him that shit? Yeah, they gotta call him
Speaker 2: Captain cap. Because I didn't even know about the fake jewels. No.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, what the fuck are
Speaker 2: we doing here?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean listen shots, I mean, look, I think that
Speaker 2: I just I just was you know what was funny
Speaker 2: about it? Let me just say something.
Speaker 1: It was funny about it is you clearly was trying
Speaker 1: to give him out. Yeah, clearly, was like are you sure?
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, are we talking about college?
Speaker 2: Gave him money.
Speaker 1: He was throwing him ali ups and he wasn't catching it.
Speaker 2: Like I would have turned it down, all right, Ship.
Speaker 3: I didn't even understand that. I knew it was crazy
Speaker 3: at the moment, but I didn't understand. I didn't clip
Speaker 3: that up myself because I try not to. If someone
Speaker 3: if someone's an ass or says some stupid shit on
Speaker 3: my show, I usually don't try to promote those clips
Speaker 3: on my own platforms Now, if someone takes it and
Speaker 3: goes crazy with it on their own, that's on them.
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna be the one that drop the
Speaker 3: big Buggies fucking line clip. I let a Twitter page
Speaker 3: do it and run with it. That way, not gonna
Speaker 3: be like I didn't promote that clip, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 3: shots a big boogie. He's got a new record out.
Speaker 3: You got to do a new interview.
Speaker 2: We did do one.
Speaker 3: It didn't go as crazy, and he admitted he's I
Speaker 3: was lying, I was captain.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is this is this is the point
Speaker 1: I'm about him to ask, Now, was he capital?
Speaker 2: Was he exaggerating like was was? What?
Speaker 1: Did that school actually really want him? I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have no.
Speaker 3: I made some merch though to celebrate the two year anniversary,
Speaker 3: and it sold really well. So I have it says
Speaker 3: like a big, a big college in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta send you, but Noorry, I appreciate your brother, Yes,
Speaker 2: sir