1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:27,708 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Yeah, good morning, Hey, good morning. Welcome 3 00:00:27,708 --> 00:00:30,388 Speaker 1: to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper Beef Jerky. 4 00:00:30,428 --> 00:00:33,868 Speaker 1: We're live in New York City, Thursday, October sixth I'm 5 00:00:33,948 --> 00:00:37,108 Speaker 1: Jamie Ardol, Kyle Brent, Peter Schrager's Super Bowl champion Jason Mccordye, 6 00:00:37,108 --> 00:00:42,108 Speaker 1: which means our band is back together. Since the time 7 00:00:42,228 --> 00:00:44,548 Speaker 1: in which we spent together in London. It was an 8 00:00:44,548 --> 00:00:48,268 Speaker 1: impactful and important team chemistry building time for us. Yeah. Great, 9 00:00:48,748 --> 00:00:50,748 Speaker 1: last time the four of us were together, Jason was 10 00:00:50,748 --> 00:00:54,428 Speaker 1: eating a Scotch egg, Oh my god, with blood inside 11 00:00:54,428 --> 00:00:56,068 Speaker 1: of it. That was the last show we do. Was 12 00:00:56,108 --> 00:00:59,028 Speaker 1: the last time with a hard boiled egg inside. I 13 00:00:59,068 --> 00:01:01,828 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna say we actually have some Scotch eggs. Bring out, 14 00:01:01,868 --> 00:01:03,828 Speaker 1: bring out. No, we don't, we don't, we don't. We 15 00:01:03,828 --> 00:01:08,068 Speaker 1: got coming back America, Commy Bears, Jamie. I wasn't here yesterday, 16 00:01:08,148 --> 00:01:11,028 Speaker 1: and I thought you did a fantastic job on the sidelines, 17 00:01:11,068 --> 00:01:14,108 Speaker 1: And it feels like we're like Vultron right now. We're 18 00:01:14,108 --> 00:01:16,108 Speaker 1: all back and we got our full powers and yeah, 19 00:01:16,148 --> 00:01:18,588 Speaker 1: let's go tackle. Thursday night let's do it. Let's do it. 20 00:01:18,668 --> 00:01:22,508 Speaker 1: That's perfect because then it's time for the leap translates. 21 00:01:22,588 --> 00:01:26,788 Speaker 1: Let's welcome inside our show. NFL Network insider Tom Pilaicero. 22 00:01:26,908 --> 00:01:29,588 Speaker 1: Tom Week five kicks off tonight between the Colts and 23 00:01:29,628 --> 00:01:32,988 Speaker 1: the Broncoes. There must be injury news on the horizon 24 00:01:33,028 --> 00:01:35,068 Speaker 1: for us. What's the latest on the front for these 25 00:01:35,108 --> 00:01:39,268 Speaker 1: two teams? Well, Jamie, let's start out with the Colts 26 00:01:39,268 --> 00:01:42,628 Speaker 1: star running back Jonathan Taylor, who is out for this 27 00:01:42,708 --> 00:01:45,748 Speaker 1: game because of the ankle injury that he suffered four 28 00:01:45,828 --> 00:01:48,628 Speaker 1: days ago. Now, my understanding is underwent an X ray 29 00:01:48,748 --> 00:01:51,668 Speaker 1: and an MRI that ruled out any type of major 30 00:01:51,788 --> 00:01:54,988 Speaker 1: damage here. But you're talking about a short turnaround for 31 00:01:55,068 --> 00:01:58,348 Speaker 1: a high volume player who also came into last week's 32 00:01:58,348 --> 00:02:01,068 Speaker 1: game battling a mild case of turf toe. So the 33 00:02:01,108 --> 00:02:04,068 Speaker 1: Colts are going to take the conservative road here with 34 00:02:04,188 --> 00:02:06,588 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, even though this is a big game for 35 00:02:06,628 --> 00:02:09,228 Speaker 1: them tonight against the Broncos. Expect to see more of 36 00:02:09,468 --> 00:02:12,108 Speaker 1: Naim Hines, who of course plays a variety of different roles. 37 00:02:12,268 --> 00:02:15,828 Speaker 1: The Colts also potentially could elevate running back Philip Lindsay, 38 00:02:15,868 --> 00:02:19,508 Speaker 1: the veteran from the practice squad. Indianapolis also will be 39 00:02:19,508 --> 00:02:23,148 Speaker 1: without their star linebacker Shaquille Leonard, who suffered a concussion 40 00:02:23,468 --> 00:02:26,388 Speaker 1: and a broken nose last Sunday in a collision with 41 00:02:26,428 --> 00:02:29,268 Speaker 1: his teammate near the goal line. That was the season 42 00:02:29,308 --> 00:02:32,028 Speaker 1: debut for Leonard, who is coming off of back surgery. 43 00:02:32,068 --> 00:02:34,828 Speaker 1: Now he is going to miss at least one game. Meanwhile, 44 00:02:34,828 --> 00:02:37,548 Speaker 1: the Broncos have some running back issues of their own. 45 00:02:37,628 --> 00:02:41,748 Speaker 1: Javonte Williams, their young stud out for the season because 46 00:02:41,788 --> 00:02:44,828 Speaker 1: of a knee injury. Melvin Gordon, the veteran, of course, 47 00:02:44,828 --> 00:02:47,628 Speaker 1: steps into his place, but Gordon has had fumbling issues 48 00:02:47,668 --> 00:02:50,028 Speaker 1: so far this season also has been on the injury 49 00:02:50,068 --> 00:02:53,348 Speaker 1: report with a neck issue. He was removed from the 50 00:02:53,388 --> 00:02:56,668 Speaker 1: injury report yesterday. He is good to go. Dever signed 51 00:02:56,748 --> 00:03:00,308 Speaker 1: Latavius Murray off the States practice squad on Monday. Remains 52 00:03:00,348 --> 00:03:02,668 Speaker 1: to be seen what, if any, role Murray would be 53 00:03:02,668 --> 00:03:06,548 Speaker 1: able to be ready for, just really one walkthrough with 54 00:03:06,628 --> 00:03:09,708 Speaker 1: his new team. One final injury. No Quarterback Russell Wilson 55 00:03:09,748 --> 00:03:12,748 Speaker 1: dinged up his throwing shoulder on Sunday. He's also off 56 00:03:12,748 --> 00:03:16,588 Speaker 1: the injury report. Good to go to night, Jamie all right, 57 00:03:16,588 --> 00:03:19,228 Speaker 1: Tom p thank you that's brutal. Week five to see 58 00:03:19,228 --> 00:03:22,588 Speaker 1: Shaquille Lunnard knows back neeck, that's awful. So go on 59 00:03:22,668 --> 00:03:24,868 Speaker 1: a short week. I hate to see that for those guys. 60 00:03:24,948 --> 00:03:27,508 Speaker 1: Week five kicks off tonight with the Colts and the Broncos. 61 00:03:27,508 --> 00:03:29,748 Speaker 1: That games can be seen on Prime Video and on 62 00:03:29,868 --> 00:03:32,948 Speaker 1: NFL Plus. Both teams missing key players. Someone who's going 63 00:03:33,028 --> 00:03:35,628 Speaker 1: to have to step up, rise to the occasion, seize 64 00:03:35,628 --> 00:03:38,748 Speaker 1: their destiny if you will. Man, who is that? Who 65 00:03:38,948 --> 00:03:41,268 Speaker 1: is that guy? On Thursday Night Football? I know if 66 00:03:41,308 --> 00:03:45,068 Speaker 1: it sounds very important, Mattic because honestly, we're in October, 67 00:03:45,108 --> 00:03:46,388 Speaker 1: But it doesn't it feel like I must win for 68 00:03:46,428 --> 00:03:49,628 Speaker 1: both these teams? Yeah, tell us mark Colts and Broncos, 69 00:03:49,668 --> 00:03:51,348 Speaker 1: Like these are two teams that were supposed to be 70 00:03:51,348 --> 00:03:53,748 Speaker 1: contending for division titles, not be the laughing stock of 71 00:03:53,788 --> 00:03:55,948 Speaker 1: the NFL. That's where we are right now with both 72 00:03:55,948 --> 00:03:58,868 Speaker 1: of these franchises. And those are two winning franchises that 73 00:03:59,428 --> 00:04:02,828 Speaker 1: have a lot of tradition and in many cases a 74 00:04:02,868 --> 00:04:06,028 Speaker 1: lot of pride. I think of a player on the 75 00:04:06,068 --> 00:04:09,468 Speaker 1: Denver sidelines right now who has to be just burning 76 00:04:09,468 --> 00:04:11,228 Speaker 1: to get back on the field, and that's our guy, 77 00:04:11,308 --> 00:04:16,148 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon. Javonte Williams was not only my number one 78 00:04:16,308 --> 00:04:18,708 Speaker 1: breakout player of the year going too the thing, but 79 00:04:19,108 --> 00:04:22,388 Speaker 1: was also supposed to be the guy in Denver. Melvin 80 00:04:22,388 --> 00:04:24,588 Speaker 1: Gordon was supposed to fade away towards the midway point 81 00:04:24,588 --> 00:04:27,228 Speaker 1: of this season. It would all be javant Is out 82 00:04:27,268 --> 00:04:30,628 Speaker 1: for the year. Insert Melvin Gordon, who it seems I 83 00:04:30,628 --> 00:04:33,588 Speaker 1: cannot hang on to a football right now. He had 84 00:04:33,588 --> 00:04:36,828 Speaker 1: a terrible fumble Sunday against the Raiders. Dron Harman knocks 85 00:04:36,868 --> 00:04:40,028 Speaker 1: it out, but it's not uncommon. This is the last 86 00:04:40,068 --> 00:04:44,228 Speaker 1: two years fumbles lost. And he's had two hundred carries 87 00:04:44,388 --> 00:04:46,868 Speaker 1: less than Dalvin Cook. He's had two hundred carries less 88 00:04:46,868 --> 00:04:50,068 Speaker 1: than Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, you go through the footage and 89 00:04:50,108 --> 00:04:52,748 Speaker 1: it is like head scratching, What is up with Melvin Gordon? 90 00:04:52,828 --> 00:04:54,628 Speaker 1: This guy cannot hold on to the football. And this 91 00:04:54,668 --> 00:04:56,548 Speaker 1: is not a young player. This is not Tiki Barber 92 00:04:56,868 --> 00:04:59,668 Speaker 1: meeting the Tom Coughlin hey high and tight talk like. 93 00:04:59,908 --> 00:05:01,748 Speaker 1: This is Melvin Gordon, who's been in the league for 94 00:05:01,948 --> 00:05:05,908 Speaker 1: several several seasons and has had great success. So as 95 00:05:05,948 --> 00:05:08,828 Speaker 1: I'm showing fumbling footage of Melvin Gordon, I would go 96 00:05:08,868 --> 00:05:13,508 Speaker 1: back to twenty fourteen. All right, twenty fourteen, Melvin Gordon 97 00:05:13,588 --> 00:05:15,828 Speaker 1: is in a game against the Nebraska corn Huskers. He's 98 00:05:15,868 --> 00:05:18,868 Speaker 1: a Wisconsin Badger. Gordon had one hundred and forty four 99 00:05:18,988 --> 00:05:22,508 Speaker 1: rushing yards, but lost two fumbles with about nine minutes 100 00:05:22,548 --> 00:05:25,508 Speaker 1: left to go in the second quarter. Okay, Melvin Gordon. 101 00:05:25,948 --> 00:05:29,228 Speaker 1: Coach wants to bench him. Gordon shakes him, keep me in, 102 00:05:29,348 --> 00:05:31,348 Speaker 1: keep me in, let me stay in this game. He 103 00:05:31,388 --> 00:05:33,588 Speaker 1: went on to have an NCAA record four hundred eight 104 00:05:33,628 --> 00:05:40,228 Speaker 1: yards up black shirt, black Shirts, we're not tackling day. 105 00:05:40,308 --> 00:05:42,188 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. One hundred forty four yards 106 00:05:42,268 --> 00:05:44,388 Speaker 1: rushing but two fumbles. Coach wants to pull them. Melvin 107 00:05:44,388 --> 00:05:46,708 Speaker 1: Gordon's like, give me one more shot. We're at that 108 00:05:46,828 --> 00:05:49,148 Speaker 1: point in his career right now. I think where if 109 00:05:49,148 --> 00:05:51,308 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon starts coughing up the ball today, it's like, look, 110 00:05:51,348 --> 00:05:53,828 Speaker 1: we've got other options and we're not. I think Melvin 111 00:05:53,908 --> 00:05:56,348 Speaker 1: Gordon has the Melvin Gordon comeback game. I think there's 112 00:05:56,348 --> 00:05:58,868 Speaker 1: a redemption story here and I think he carries the Broncos. 113 00:05:59,108 --> 00:06:01,748 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon has to step up. And if you know 114 00:06:01,828 --> 00:06:03,668 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, you knew how badly he wants this and 115 00:06:03,708 --> 00:06:05,148 Speaker 1: does not want to be the reason this team is 116 00:06:05,188 --> 00:06:07,188 Speaker 1: losing games. Yeah, and what you're saying is a great point. 117 00:06:07,268 --> 00:06:10,268 Speaker 1: They signed Octavius Murray, Mike Boone was getting some carries 118 00:06:10,268 --> 00:06:12,828 Speaker 1: above him have to be fumbled this past week, so 119 00:06:12,868 --> 00:06:14,668 Speaker 1: it is kind of put up a shut up time, 120 00:06:14,868 --> 00:06:16,908 Speaker 1: and I think he will rise to the occasion. And 121 00:06:16,988 --> 00:06:19,148 Speaker 1: another guy for the Colts who has risen to the 122 00:06:19,188 --> 00:06:22,548 Speaker 1: occasion is rookie Alec Pierce. He's a wide receiver on 123 00:06:22,588 --> 00:06:25,308 Speaker 1: the other side of Michael Pittman Junior, and he's starting 124 00:06:25,308 --> 00:06:27,748 Speaker 1: to come along. Versus Kansas City Chiefs, had his first 125 00:06:27,788 --> 00:06:30,268 Speaker 1: three receptions of the season, one coming late in the 126 00:06:30,348 --> 00:06:33,988 Speaker 1: fourth quarter helping them to win that game. This past week, 127 00:06:34,028 --> 00:06:36,868 Speaker 1: he goes out there, four catches for eighty yards. Matt 128 00:06:36,948 --> 00:06:39,308 Speaker 1: Ryan's chucking it up in the air and he's making 129 00:06:39,348 --> 00:06:42,188 Speaker 1: catches deep down the field. Now you look at this 130 00:06:42,228 --> 00:06:45,348 Speaker 1: matchup Thursday night, you have Michael Pittman Junior, like I said, 131 00:06:45,348 --> 00:06:48,548 Speaker 1: on the other side, Pat Certain Junior will probably shadow 132 00:06:48,708 --> 00:06:51,428 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Junior, which is gonna open it up for 133 00:06:51,508 --> 00:06:54,188 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce. Matt Ryan threw for over three hundred yards 134 00:06:54,188 --> 00:06:57,028 Speaker 1: in her last game, and yes it hasn't always been pretty, 135 00:06:57,228 --> 00:06:59,828 Speaker 1: but he's finding ways to get Alec pierced the ball. 136 00:07:00,068 --> 00:07:02,028 Speaker 1: Pierce talked about this week. He said, Hey, as I'm 137 00:07:02,068 --> 00:07:05,228 Speaker 1: coming along, Matt Ryan is building more confidence in me. 138 00:07:05,468 --> 00:07:07,508 Speaker 1: Not only am I getting more targets in the game, 139 00:07:07,708 --> 00:07:10,468 Speaker 1: but I'm seeing the ball come out way more in practice. 140 00:07:10,628 --> 00:07:12,468 Speaker 1: And for a young receiver, that's what you want to 141 00:07:12,508 --> 00:07:15,908 Speaker 1: hear your quarterback, haven't confidence in you, trusting you to 142 00:07:15,908 --> 00:07:17,668 Speaker 1: get the ball in your hands late in the game, 143 00:07:17,748 --> 00:07:20,348 Speaker 1: early in the game, but finding it necessary to get 144 00:07:20,388 --> 00:07:22,548 Speaker 1: you going for the offense to get roll Week five. 145 00:07:22,548 --> 00:07:24,988 Speaker 1: Would you ever imagined like the Colts season depends on 146 00:07:25,068 --> 00:07:28,628 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce? So weird? You know, tay to pick. You 147 00:07:28,788 --> 00:07:30,548 Speaker 1: never know who's going to step up throughout the course 148 00:07:30,588 --> 00:07:32,548 Speaker 1: of the season. It's been interesting to see Matt Ryan 149 00:07:32,628 --> 00:07:35,308 Speaker 1: trying to figure this out in real time, especially considering 150 00:07:35,348 --> 00:07:37,228 Speaker 1: the quarterback that we knew and the success that he 151 00:07:37,308 --> 00:07:39,788 Speaker 1: had with the Falcons. It hasn't really been as smooth, 152 00:07:39,828 --> 00:07:41,508 Speaker 1: I think as a lot of people thought it might 153 00:07:41,548 --> 00:07:44,108 Speaker 1: have gone. It was the consistency that the Colton wanted 154 00:07:44,108 --> 00:07:46,788 Speaker 1: a quarterback that just hasn't quite delivered. Alec Pierce is 155 00:07:46,828 --> 00:07:49,308 Speaker 1: one of those options for him in the passing game. 156 00:07:49,668 --> 00:07:51,588 Speaker 1: The two tight ends that he has I think are 157 00:07:51,628 --> 00:07:53,988 Speaker 1: spectacular and I love a good connection to when you 158 00:07:53,988 --> 00:07:57,268 Speaker 1: have like a big guy like Moali Cox or Gilani Woods, 159 00:07:57,308 --> 00:08:00,148 Speaker 1: I'm talking six seven to fifty six five to These 160 00:08:00,148 --> 00:08:02,268 Speaker 1: guys are huge. I used to play basketball. They're easy 161 00:08:02,348 --> 00:08:05,668 Speaker 1: targets in the red zone. Mout Ryan has five touchdowns 162 00:08:05,668 --> 00:08:08,748 Speaker 1: this season, four of which are to the tight end position. 163 00:08:09,148 --> 00:08:11,748 Speaker 1: These guys have to step up in a game like this. 164 00:08:11,748 --> 00:08:14,708 Speaker 1: This is easy for Frankreik to look at this within 165 00:08:14,828 --> 00:08:17,748 Speaker 1: his offense. Frank Breik loves tight ends. He loves to 166 00:08:17,788 --> 00:08:20,108 Speaker 1: feature them. Let's talk about all the tight ends of 167 00:08:20,148 --> 00:08:22,828 Speaker 1: Frank Creik has been able to feature in his coaching career. 168 00:08:22,868 --> 00:08:25,788 Speaker 1: When he first started in Indianapolis, you got Dallas Clark. 169 00:08:25,868 --> 00:08:28,628 Speaker 1: Then he goes to the Chargers and he's got Antonio Gates, 170 00:08:28,628 --> 00:08:30,508 Speaker 1: and then Zach Ertz when he was the offensive coordiner 171 00:08:30,508 --> 00:08:33,668 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. Look at those faces. That is a fantastic 172 00:08:33,748 --> 00:08:35,908 Speaker 1: way to move the ball up and down the field. 173 00:08:35,988 --> 00:08:38,428 Speaker 1: Big targets and without a running back, you don't have 174 00:08:38,508 --> 00:08:40,468 Speaker 1: to rely as much maybe on those tight ends to 175 00:08:40,508 --> 00:08:42,788 Speaker 1: be the blocking guys that you need. You need them 176 00:08:42,788 --> 00:08:45,148 Speaker 1: to be pass catchers in an offense like this. Yeah, 177 00:08:45,188 --> 00:08:47,228 Speaker 1: I would also throw in Trey Burton, who was on 178 00:08:47,268 --> 00:08:48,908 Speaker 1: the Yes game and through the Philly Special. I got 179 00:08:48,948 --> 00:08:50,788 Speaker 1: a big contract with the Bears, like he does. Like 180 00:08:50,868 --> 00:08:52,988 Speaker 1: the tight ends. Well, Angela Woods used to be a 181 00:08:53,068 --> 00:08:55,388 Speaker 1: quarterback and so like maybe a little trickery we've seen 182 00:08:55,428 --> 00:08:57,908 Speaker 1: going on with the Loves, some trickery he needs with you, 183 00:08:58,188 --> 00:08:59,868 Speaker 1: we need something. I'll bring a full circle on a 184 00:08:59,948 --> 00:09:01,908 Speaker 1: talk Broncos running game, and Peter laid out the Melvin 185 00:09:01,908 --> 00:09:05,228 Speaker 1: Gordon fumbling issues. Fumbling is a mental mental thing, it 186 00:09:05,348 --> 00:09:07,548 Speaker 1: really is. Everybody knows the form as a veteran, like 187 00:09:07,828 --> 00:09:09,548 Speaker 1: he is in his head about that. And I don't 188 00:09:09,548 --> 00:09:11,228 Speaker 1: know if it's gonna because of that because some other reason. 189 00:09:11,308 --> 00:09:13,388 Speaker 1: But I'm looking for a hero to rise from the 190 00:09:13,388 --> 00:09:15,348 Speaker 1: Broncos running game and it is the newest guy in 191 00:09:15,388 --> 00:09:17,708 Speaker 1: the block and one of the most respected veterans on 192 00:09:17,748 --> 00:09:20,708 Speaker 1: this show for sure. Let'tavius Murray is a Bronco now. 193 00:09:20,748 --> 00:09:23,108 Speaker 1: And let me just promise you this. He's gonna score 194 00:09:23,108 --> 00:09:25,308 Speaker 1: a touchdown tonight. This is all he ever does. This 195 00:09:25,468 --> 00:09:27,668 Speaker 1: is him back, a sixth round pick back with the 196 00:09:27,708 --> 00:09:31,228 Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders at a central flooria, Central Florida, and he's 197 00:09:31,228 --> 00:09:32,708 Speaker 1: just wow, he's six point three is really good. Then 198 00:09:32,748 --> 00:09:36,268 Speaker 1: he goes to Minnesota, scores touchdowns, makes the Pro Bowl, 199 00:09:36,388 --> 00:09:39,028 Speaker 1: is in the playoffs. Minnesota is like, oh, we love Lettavius, 200 00:09:39,108 --> 00:09:41,228 Speaker 1: but we're gonna let you go. Now he's a Saint 201 00:09:41,268 --> 00:09:44,508 Speaker 1: taking a handoff from Taysom Hill. All he does score 202 00:09:44,508 --> 00:09:47,668 Speaker 1: a touchdown, so he had a long career with the Saints, right. Nope. 203 00:09:47,788 --> 00:09:50,668 Speaker 1: Then he's down to the Ravens taking handoffs from Lamar. Guys, 204 00:09:50,828 --> 00:09:53,188 Speaker 1: he can't make it up. He scores a touchdown, a 205 00:09:53,308 --> 00:09:56,828 Speaker 1: long one, so he settles home in Baltimore. Nope. Then 206 00:09:56,868 --> 00:09:59,068 Speaker 1: he's moving on to the Saints. He's getting a handoff. 207 00:09:59,228 --> 00:10:01,828 Speaker 1: Last week, guys, this is in London. They picked up 208 00:10:01,868 --> 00:10:03,188 Speaker 1: and said you want to get on a plane to London. 209 00:10:03,228 --> 00:10:05,668 Speaker 1: He jumps right in and or as they touchdown. So 210 00:10:05,828 --> 00:10:07,788 Speaker 1: New Orleans has a guy right, den Verse says, we 211 00:10:07,908 --> 00:10:10,348 Speaker 1: need someone. They sign him this week off the Saints 212 00:10:10,348 --> 00:10:12,708 Speaker 1: practice squad and we're like, we're gonna put you in 213 00:10:12,748 --> 00:10:14,948 Speaker 1: the game on Thursday on a short week, and you're 214 00:10:14,948 --> 00:10:18,788 Speaker 1: in London last week. It's incredible. Last week he's scoring 215 00:10:18,788 --> 00:10:21,708 Speaker 1: a touchdown in London for the Saints. Tonight, I bear, 216 00:10:21,748 --> 00:10:23,628 Speaker 1: I guarantee you we'll be scoring a touchdown tonight on 217 00:10:23,668 --> 00:10:26,068 Speaker 1: Thursday Night football for the Broncos. And just to finish 218 00:10:26,148 --> 00:10:28,188 Speaker 1: this thing and just give it our little bow. There 219 00:10:28,268 --> 00:10:29,828 Speaker 1: is no one better for the locker room, there is 220 00:10:29,828 --> 00:10:31,228 Speaker 1: no one better for the huddle. And if you want 221 00:10:31,228 --> 00:10:34,148 Speaker 1: proof of that, here's Latavias Murray not scoring a touchdown, 222 00:10:34,348 --> 00:10:37,108 Speaker 1: but sitting five years ago with Peter Straeker, myself and 223 00:10:37,108 --> 00:10:41,748 Speaker 1: Will Selva debating Godfather versus Goodfallaws and taking up for 224 00:10:41,788 --> 00:10:45,508 Speaker 1: the Godfather. Go ahead, this is our guy. Seventy two. 225 00:10:45,828 --> 00:10:48,948 Speaker 1: We have the Godfather that comes out. Okay, eighteen years 226 00:10:48,988 --> 00:10:51,868 Speaker 1: later you have the good Fellas. Hey, you don't get 227 00:10:52,948 --> 00:10:56,908 Speaker 1: without Jerry West. You understand what I'm saying. This is business, 228 00:10:56,948 --> 00:11:01,068 Speaker 1: This is not personal. Luca Brassie nervous to go up 229 00:11:01,108 --> 00:11:05,308 Speaker 1: there and talk to the Godfather, nervous rehearsing his speeches. Kyle, 230 00:11:05,508 --> 00:11:07,428 Speaker 1: I want you to rehearse your speeches before you talk 231 00:11:07,428 --> 00:11:11,388 Speaker 1: to me. That's the respect I deserve. Peter, You're the 232 00:11:11,548 --> 00:11:19,068 Speaker 1: NFL outsider, aren't you, insider. Aren't you You're you're the rat, right, Kyle? 233 00:11:19,108 --> 00:11:21,748 Speaker 1: How do you pick a movie that ends up with 234 00:11:21,788 --> 00:11:25,788 Speaker 1: the rat as the main guy? Huh huh? He had 235 00:11:25,828 --> 00:11:28,268 Speaker 1: takes on Peter on Henry Hill. I'm gonna say this again. 236 00:11:28,308 --> 00:11:31,868 Speaker 1: That is a professional running back. Wherever he goes, he performs, 237 00:11:32,188 --> 00:11:34,748 Speaker 1: loves movies. Le in Orange he was. I think he 238 00:11:34,788 --> 00:11:36,308 Speaker 1: was trying to do the don Co the own thing. 239 00:11:36,388 --> 00:11:38,348 Speaker 1: We couldn't stick the landing. He will tonight, Let's tam. 240 00:11:39,548 --> 00:11:53,308 Speaker 1: That is incredible. I love that. Who knows? The NFL 241 00:11:53,508 --> 00:11:56,468 Speaker 1: still in London and we've got another great game this 242 00:11:56,508 --> 00:12:01,468 Speaker 1: weekend live from Tottenham Hotspur Stadium on NFL Network. It's 243 00:12:01,468 --> 00:12:05,028 Speaker 1: the Giants and the Packers Rogers first time overseas in 244 00:12:05,068 --> 00:12:08,668 Speaker 1: the NFL. Wake up early and watch with us. It's 245 00:12:08,708 --> 00:12:13,788 Speaker 1: Sunday Morning Football Live from London, October ninth, and Yes, 246 00:12:14,028 --> 00:12:18,548 Speaker 1: West Coast. Set your alarms nine thirty am Eastern. Set 247 00:12:18,588 --> 00:12:22,948 Speaker 1: your fantasy lineups on NFL Network and streaming on NFL Plus. 248 00:12:22,948 --> 00:12:27,548 Speaker 1: Game they kickoff, gets you started seven am Eastern. Gosh 249 00:12:27,588 --> 00:12:29,788 Speaker 1: do I love seeing those two logos so much so 250 00:12:29,988 --> 00:12:32,228 Speaker 1: that I figured we can do a little mixed bag 251 00:12:32,308 --> 00:12:36,268 Speaker 1: trivia based on those two teams and their intersection as 252 00:12:36,388 --> 00:12:40,708 Speaker 1: NFL legendary franchises. It's mixed bag trivia. If you're new 253 00:12:40,748 --> 00:12:43,068 Speaker 1: to the show, just sit back, watch and play along 254 00:12:43,108 --> 00:12:48,548 Speaker 1: at home. Jamie, it's time to get in the hot seat. Okay, Okay, 255 00:12:48,788 --> 00:12:51,868 Speaker 1: there is a possibility that we actually get an Aaron 256 00:12:51,948 --> 00:12:55,508 Speaker 1: Rodgers versus Davis Web game. Okay, we don't know who 257 00:12:55,548 --> 00:12:58,668 Speaker 1: the Giants quarterback is at the moment, and Davis Webb 258 00:12:58,748 --> 00:13:02,468 Speaker 1: could be the guy. Two players who have played their 259 00:13:02,548 --> 00:13:07,828 Speaker 1: college ball at California. You Aaron Rodgers and Davis Berkeley? 260 00:13:07,868 --> 00:13:11,908 Speaker 1: Are you with us? Okay, Webb versus Rogers? The question 261 00:13:12,028 --> 00:13:16,348 Speaker 1: is this college football sideline reporter from anybody airs other 262 00:13:16,468 --> 00:13:20,228 Speaker 1: than Aaron Rodgers? Which Cal Berkeley quarterback has the most 263 00:13:20,308 --> 00:13:25,828 Speaker 1: career NFL passing yards? Is well? Greg Morton, is it 264 00:13:25,988 --> 00:13:31,908 Speaker 1: Steve Bartkowski? Is it Kyle Bowler? Or is it Jared Goff? 265 00:13:32,068 --> 00:13:35,868 Speaker 1: Cal Bears fans, Mike Silver Where are you? Who's got 266 00:13:35,948 --> 00:13:38,988 Speaker 1: this answer? Jamie Ortall? Do you have this? I feel 267 00:13:39,028 --> 00:13:42,548 Speaker 1: like you're trying to bait me, ever, try to get 268 00:13:42,548 --> 00:13:45,708 Speaker 1: into my psychology. Yeah, with the with the easy like 269 00:13:45,788 --> 00:13:47,948 Speaker 1: the easy Goff answer, like, oh, he's the name the 270 00:13:47,988 --> 00:13:51,788 Speaker 1: most recognizable for the young people who, for the young Heads, 271 00:13:51,868 --> 00:13:55,228 Speaker 1: for the Young Heads Week. I think, I know, I know, 272 00:13:55,628 --> 00:13:57,788 Speaker 1: but they weren't going up against the Who forty eight, 273 00:13:57,908 --> 00:13:59,948 Speaker 1: forty five though those games we're played at Cal. I 274 00:13:59,988 --> 00:14:01,828 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm gonna I have no idea. I'm just 275 00:14:01,868 --> 00:14:04,908 Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm gonna go beat. I'm gonna go Steve Barkowski. Barkowsky, 276 00:14:04,988 --> 00:14:08,428 Speaker 1: great Falcons legend. But the correct answer is actually, ah, 277 00:14:09,068 --> 00:14:13,628 Speaker 1: at least I wasn't going. Craig Morton Rogers, big lead 278 00:14:13,668 --> 00:14:17,428 Speaker 1: over everybody. But look where Craig more Yeah, Morton super 279 00:14:17,468 --> 00:14:20,068 Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback? This how you guys? The twenty seven thousand, 280 00:14:20,188 --> 00:14:23,028 Speaker 1: nine hundred eight yards was a Broncos quarterback. Was also 281 00:14:23,108 --> 00:14:27,708 Speaker 1: a Cowboys quarterback, played for eighteen seasons. Love this okay 282 00:14:27,748 --> 00:14:30,788 Speaker 1: and Craig Morton out of Cal out of Flint, Michigan. 283 00:14:30,788 --> 00:14:34,388 Speaker 1: Original originally was a fifth overall pick in the sixty 284 00:14:34,388 --> 00:14:37,268 Speaker 1: five draft, plays for the Cowboys, ends up going to 285 00:14:37,308 --> 00:14:40,108 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, being the quarterback for the Bronchos and 286 00:14:40,188 --> 00:14:43,828 Speaker 1: that seventy seven year the Orange Crutch team. Craig Mooreton 287 00:14:43,828 --> 00:14:48,708 Speaker 1: awesome career starter backup, bounced around the league, eighteen years 288 00:14:48,708 --> 00:14:51,388 Speaker 1: in the league. Look at that throw, that's Elder before lay. 289 00:14:51,468 --> 00:14:54,388 Speaker 1: That's seven. Why we do the second guys? This is 290 00:14:55,308 --> 00:15:00,108 Speaker 1: Arcasky was next? Truly Yeah, first it was Look I 291 00:15:00,188 --> 00:15:03,068 Speaker 1: love these highlights. Yeah. I don't know if Kyle Bowler 292 00:15:03,108 --> 00:15:04,868 Speaker 1: is ready to step into that Ray Lewis locker room 293 00:15:04,868 --> 00:15:08,268 Speaker 1: that was to beat for a couple of years after 294 00:15:08,348 --> 00:15:10,148 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl butt. He did once throw a ball 295 00:15:10,148 --> 00:15:13,788 Speaker 1: through the upright. The word, Jason, that was tough. I 296 00:15:13,828 --> 00:15:15,748 Speaker 1: put Jamie in a tough spot. That we're doing. I 297 00:15:15,748 --> 00:15:17,908 Speaker 1: appreciate it because last week was low was too easy. 298 00:15:18,668 --> 00:15:24,508 Speaker 1: Martellis Bennett situation. The word salted ball? What are you doing? So? 299 00:15:24,508 --> 00:15:28,748 Speaker 1: I give used Craig Morton, Jason, are you ready? I'm ready. 300 00:15:29,028 --> 00:15:31,268 Speaker 1: Grew up in the New York New Year I did area, 301 00:15:31,508 --> 00:15:34,028 Speaker 1: and around two thousand and seven you were likely in 302 00:15:34,068 --> 00:15:37,468 Speaker 1: middle high or maybe even elementary school. I'm not sure. 303 00:15:37,548 --> 00:15:39,948 Speaker 1: But the Giants beat the Packers in the O seven 304 00:15:40,028 --> 00:15:43,828 Speaker 1: NSC Championship game and you're a defensive back which Giants 305 00:15:43,908 --> 00:15:47,468 Speaker 1: player picked off Brett Farve in overtime to put that 306 00:15:47,508 --> 00:15:51,388 Speaker 1: game on Lawrence Times's foot. Was it defensive lineman and 307 00:15:51,508 --> 00:15:54,028 Speaker 1: friend of the show and fellow host of the show 308 00:15:54,068 --> 00:15:58,548 Speaker 1: Oca Was it antreill role at the end of the day, 309 00:15:58,908 --> 00:16:02,748 Speaker 1: Was it Antonio Pierce or was it Corey Webster at 310 00:16:02,828 --> 00:16:06,708 Speaker 1: LSU Some really good Giants players right there, Antro Roll 311 00:16:06,908 --> 00:16:10,388 Speaker 1: really good safety. Antonio Pierce was knocking heads off at 312 00:16:10,428 --> 00:16:13,788 Speaker 1: the middle linebacker spot Olci, friend of the show. I 313 00:16:13,828 --> 00:16:17,028 Speaker 1: don't know if he was intercepting any passes. I am 314 00:16:17,148 --> 00:16:21,668 Speaker 1: going with d Corey Webster. I believe number twenty three 315 00:16:21,708 --> 00:16:24,108 Speaker 1: for your New York Giants. No, he got the jersey 316 00:16:24,228 --> 00:16:29,108 Speaker 1: number and he's right it is, Yes, Webster tied at twenty. 317 00:16:29,188 --> 00:16:32,668 Speaker 1: In overtime, Farve is looking here and he's got Donald Driver, 318 00:16:32,788 --> 00:16:35,148 Speaker 1: his go to guy, and Corey Webster gets the past, 319 00:16:36,028 --> 00:16:38,428 Speaker 1: runs it in and he picks off the gun slinger 320 00:16:38,828 --> 00:16:41,628 Speaker 1: Farve and what was the coldest game in New York 321 00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:45,828 Speaker 1: Giants history goes into lambo and it's Corey Webster and 322 00:16:45,868 --> 00:16:48,708 Speaker 1: the boys on defense in those white, red and blue uniforms, 323 00:16:48,948 --> 00:16:51,508 Speaker 1: putting the game away. Lawrence Times, we see you, we 324 00:16:51,548 --> 00:16:53,908 Speaker 1: know you tweet often. We know you're a Giants legend. 325 00:16:54,268 --> 00:16:57,428 Speaker 1: Times bangs it through and Fringid Weather to win it 326 00:16:57,428 --> 00:17:00,068 Speaker 1: in overtime. But Corey Webster the correct answer. You even 327 00:17:00,108 --> 00:17:01,908 Speaker 1: knew the number? You know the number? I know my 328 00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:05,028 Speaker 1: DBS rolls twenty six. I remember that Giants team watching 329 00:17:05,068 --> 00:17:08,188 Speaker 1: them the Dogs out O seven? Where were you? Oh seven? 330 00:17:08,268 --> 00:17:10,708 Speaker 1: I was in college at okay, I graduated high school. 331 00:17:10,708 --> 00:17:13,428 Speaker 1: Oh five. So you're watching a roll as a scarlet 332 00:17:13,588 --> 00:17:17,668 Speaker 1: night watching Kyle You ready? I'm absolutely ready? This is 333 00:17:17,668 --> 00:17:20,908 Speaker 1: not great. We've got Giants packers trivia. Are you going 334 00:17:20,908 --> 00:17:24,708 Speaker 1: to give me something? Usually we go SNL with yeah, darl, 335 00:17:24,908 --> 00:17:27,188 Speaker 1: but after this past week, I might need some time offering. 336 00:17:27,228 --> 00:17:28,748 Speaker 1: Why is that you didn't like the Miles Taylor people. 337 00:17:28,788 --> 00:17:30,468 Speaker 1: I like that. I thought that one was good. I 338 00:17:30,468 --> 00:17:34,308 Speaker 1: think that they've got some growing pains. That's okay, Maybe 339 00:17:34,348 --> 00:17:37,508 Speaker 1: they should get Kirk Cameron as the catch transition year. Okay, 340 00:17:37,668 --> 00:17:41,228 Speaker 1: So I'm going different places with you. Aaron Rodgers reference 341 00:17:41,268 --> 00:17:43,788 Speaker 1: to NFL Europe this week in an interview with Pat 342 00:17:43,868 --> 00:17:46,388 Speaker 1: McAfee and The Pat McAfee Show. He was talking about 343 00:17:46,428 --> 00:17:49,028 Speaker 1: the Rhyan fire. Yeah, so I asked you, which are 344 00:17:49,028 --> 00:17:56,428 Speaker 1: the following teams were not? NFL Europe franchises got the 345 00:17:56,508 --> 00:18:01,508 Speaker 1: Amsterdam Admirals we've got the Frankfurt Galaxy, we've got the 346 00:18:01,628 --> 00:18:06,228 Speaker 1: Berlin Thunder, and we've got the Munich Mavericks. It's too 347 00:18:06,268 --> 00:18:08,428 Speaker 1: bad because my favorite team is the Rhyan Fire, so 348 00:18:08,428 --> 00:18:11,268 Speaker 1: they're not the Rogers want the right. I think people 349 00:18:11,308 --> 00:18:14,428 Speaker 1: like the Rhyan Fire. Just it ranked Amsterdam Amirals. I'm 350 00:18:14,428 --> 00:18:16,148 Speaker 1: pretty sure it was the team. And I also Frankfurt 351 00:18:16,188 --> 00:18:17,908 Speaker 1: Galaxies hitting for me, So I think it's either C 352 00:18:18,108 --> 00:18:20,708 Speaker 1: or D. Peter, you gotta got cute with the Munich 353 00:18:20,748 --> 00:18:22,988 Speaker 1: Mavericks with the alliteration at the end. That sounds fake 354 00:18:23,068 --> 00:18:26,028 Speaker 1: to me. It's either that or Berlin Thunder, which also 355 00:18:26,148 --> 00:18:28,668 Speaker 1: sounds like Berlin Thunder sounds like a like an all 356 00:18:28,748 --> 00:18:30,868 Speaker 1: male burlesque show in Germany. I don't want to get 357 00:18:30,908 --> 00:18:34,988 Speaker 1: and so we're gonna go. We're going to Munich as well. 358 00:18:36,548 --> 00:18:38,428 Speaker 1: Take a full mont. Yeah, take a trip to Berlin 359 00:18:38,468 --> 00:18:39,948 Speaker 1: and see the Munic. You have to see the fun. 360 00:18:40,828 --> 00:18:42,948 Speaker 1: That's what you see, all right, Peter, Now you're talking 361 00:18:42,988 --> 00:18:46,468 Speaker 1: me into it. Yeah, Croket, that was the time one's pockets. 362 00:18:46,508 --> 00:18:48,548 Speaker 1: When we does, I'm gonna go with the last one, 363 00:18:48,668 --> 00:18:50,908 Speaker 1: the Mavericks. I'm gonna go with that. That's not true. 364 00:18:50,948 --> 00:18:54,268 Speaker 1: You're right the correct Yes, see the Munich Mavericks, the 365 00:18:54,388 --> 00:18:59,908 Speaker 1: Amsterdam Admirals, the Frankfurt Galaxy, the Berlin Thunder, they were 366 00:18:59,948 --> 00:19:05,628 Speaker 1: all actual teams or Amsterdam Admiral Kurt Warner right with 367 00:19:05,708 --> 00:19:09,748 Speaker 1: the Suzuki ad right on the sub that's the Berlin 368 00:19:09,828 --> 00:19:13,508 Speaker 1: Thunder right there. We got all these cool uniforms. Going 369 00:19:13,548 --> 00:19:17,108 Speaker 1: back to Germany. The league had such a footprint in 370 00:19:17,148 --> 00:19:19,548 Speaker 1: Germany during the NFL Europe in the World League, and 371 00:19:19,588 --> 00:19:21,708 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a lot of NFL Europe talking thing 372 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:24,348 Speaker 1: great during that week. If you are a fan of 373 00:19:24,348 --> 00:19:27,148 Speaker 1: the Berlin Thunder, please send us all of your thoughts. Um, 374 00:19:27,228 --> 00:19:30,428 Speaker 1: the Munich Mavericks never existed. Now, Mavericks is an American thing. Yeah, 375 00:19:31,988 --> 00:19:34,708 Speaker 1: that's true. We got a video clue that we all 376 00:19:34,748 --> 00:19:38,868 Speaker 1: participate in. Yeah, are you guys ready, Yeah, twenty sixteen 377 00:19:39,348 --> 00:19:43,348 Speaker 1: NFC Wildcard game, everyone was talking about the boat pier 378 00:19:43,548 --> 00:19:46,788 Speaker 1: with all the giants. Receivers were on the boat with 379 00:19:46,948 --> 00:19:49,708 Speaker 1: trace songs. But it was we still don't have the picture. Well, 380 00:19:50,228 --> 00:19:52,308 Speaker 1: we tried to run up for six years scene. That 381 00:19:52,388 --> 00:19:54,628 Speaker 1: was our first year as a show. We're like picture, no, 382 00:19:54,828 --> 00:19:58,988 Speaker 1: there's a picture. For a year NFL dark shadowy figures. 383 00:19:59,028 --> 00:20:01,268 Speaker 1: We're like, don't don't, don't encourage that, don't encourage that. 384 00:20:01,428 --> 00:20:03,428 Speaker 1: We still don't ever show the picture of the name 385 00:20:03,428 --> 00:20:06,468 Speaker 1: of our show. Just encourage or dark shadowy figures. That's 386 00:20:06,508 --> 00:20:09,828 Speaker 1: how we got um. It was a one point game 387 00:20:10,868 --> 00:20:13,268 Speaker 1: as halftime approached, and this was even after the boat. 388 00:20:13,308 --> 00:20:17,788 Speaker 1: It was Odell's first playoff game, the whole thing. Rogers 389 00:20:17,868 --> 00:20:21,948 Speaker 1: takes a snap and he's won for the end zone, 390 00:20:22,548 --> 00:20:27,868 Speaker 1: which Packers receiver hauled in a pass for the touchdown? 391 00:20:28,748 --> 00:20:32,028 Speaker 1: Was it Randall call? Was it Jamie heard all favorite 392 00:20:32,068 --> 00:20:38,308 Speaker 1: Martelli's Bennett. Was it Jordy Nelson or was it Davante Adams? Jamie, 393 00:20:38,388 --> 00:20:43,188 Speaker 1: you go first. I'm gonna go see Jordy Nelson. Okay, Jason, 394 00:20:43,228 --> 00:20:45,428 Speaker 1: you're next. I am. I know it wasn't Marty. It 395 00:20:45,428 --> 00:20:47,548 Speaker 1: wasn't Martell's been and they hated him in Green Bay. 396 00:20:49,748 --> 00:20:52,348 Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to get my guy Marty out of there. Okay, 397 00:20:52,428 --> 00:20:57,388 Speaker 1: I'm going Adams, Okay. Martie's things is obviously played with Rogers. 398 00:20:59,108 --> 00:21:01,108 Speaker 1: He went back to New England that same season and 399 00:21:02,628 --> 00:21:03,868 Speaker 1: he could get him out of the door. And Green 400 00:21:03,908 --> 00:21:07,268 Speaker 1: Bay Rodgers always loves this guy's his best friend is 401 00:21:07,268 --> 00:21:09,228 Speaker 1: in his wedding. I just would go. I would go 402 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:11,108 Speaker 1: with the Randall Cob. He knows he can copy as 403 00:21:11,148 --> 00:21:15,068 Speaker 1: he called. Yeah, let's find out. Let's toss to the 404 00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:18,548 Speaker 1: sound the game was in twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen. Let's 405 00:21:18,548 --> 00:21:21,348 Speaker 1: hear how it all went down. Giants looking for a 406 00:21:21,468 --> 00:21:29,988 Speaker 1: start it out? Rogers does this better than anybody? A 407 00:21:30,228 --> 00:21:40,468 Speaker 1: Joe touchdown. Unbelievable. Man who does that better than Aaron Rodgers? 408 00:21:45,868 --> 00:21:53,828 Speaker 1: Sure now to work coming. There's been so many phases 409 00:21:53,868 --> 00:21:56,668 Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers's careers. I love the hail Mary phase. 410 00:21:57,028 --> 00:21:59,268 Speaker 1: Throw every five minutes. It was like he didn't throw 411 00:21:59,388 --> 00:22:03,188 Speaker 1: hail Mary today, Arizona. This one like, forget about this one? Right? 412 00:22:03,308 --> 00:22:05,948 Speaker 1: We go from craigmore In to Randall Cobb to the 413 00:22:06,028 --> 00:22:09,148 Speaker 1: Berlin thunder Fire whatever they are. This is what our 414 00:22:09,188 --> 00:22:17,588 Speaker 1: show is. Good Morning Football. That's fun. Blin blind Crivia. 415 00:22:29,268 --> 00:22:31,548 Speaker 1: We five kicks off tonight the Colts and the Broncos. 416 00:22:31,748 --> 00:22:34,868 Speaker 1: Latavius Murray he's with the Saints last week. Um, and 417 00:22:34,908 --> 00:22:38,548 Speaker 1: then that's where the Saints hosts the Bronco. They host 418 00:22:38,588 --> 00:22:41,548 Speaker 1: the Seahawks on Sunday Night. It won't be Russell Wilson there. 419 00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:44,588 Speaker 1: The NFL becomes just a constellation of players moving across 420 00:22:44,668 --> 00:22:47,188 Speaker 1: the map. But it's strange to say that the Seahawks 421 00:22:47,228 --> 00:22:50,228 Speaker 1: would be in New Orleans playing the Saints without Russell Wilson. 422 00:22:50,348 --> 00:22:52,548 Speaker 1: But he's with the Broncos and life has moved on 423 00:22:52,628 --> 00:22:55,188 Speaker 1: for both teams. Both teams are two and two. Um 424 00:22:55,508 --> 00:22:58,468 Speaker 1: safe to say? Or how does this question go? Strange 425 00:22:58,588 --> 00:23:02,268 Speaker 1: to say that the Seahawks are better off without Russell Wilson? 426 00:23:02,308 --> 00:23:05,028 Speaker 1: Do we believe that to be true? I don't want 427 00:23:05,068 --> 00:23:07,148 Speaker 1: to go that far. I want to say right now, 428 00:23:07,828 --> 00:23:10,028 Speaker 1: I want to give Geno some of his flowers, as 429 00:23:10,068 --> 00:23:11,948 Speaker 1: we like to say. He's been playing really well. This 430 00:23:12,068 --> 00:23:14,868 Speaker 1: guy drafted by the New York Jets, didn't work out, 431 00:23:15,108 --> 00:23:17,428 Speaker 1: went to the Giants, went to the Charges, and now 432 00:23:17,508 --> 00:23:21,028 Speaker 1: he's in Seattle, sat behind Russ. He's getting his opportunity 433 00:23:21,308 --> 00:23:25,828 Speaker 1: to start. But we can't diminish what Russ did off 434 00:23:25,948 --> 00:23:29,068 Speaker 1: right now without Russell Wilson. No, it's too early to 435 00:23:29,148 --> 00:23:31,868 Speaker 1: say that they're two and two like they haven't are 436 00:23:31,908 --> 00:23:33,908 Speaker 1: think one or two games right now? So, yes, Geno 437 00:23:33,988 --> 00:23:36,588 Speaker 1: Smith is playing good football. So I understand the question 438 00:23:36,668 --> 00:23:38,628 Speaker 1: and why we're talking about it. But look at what 439 00:23:38,748 --> 00:23:41,268 Speaker 1: they did with Russ. They won more playoff games in 440 00:23:41,348 --> 00:23:43,308 Speaker 1: the ten years Russ was there, and it was like 441 00:23:43,468 --> 00:23:46,748 Speaker 1: thirty six seasons before that Russ won a Super Bowl there. 442 00:23:46,748 --> 00:23:48,988 Speaker 1: It took him to two Super Bowls. So I don't 443 00:23:49,028 --> 00:23:51,148 Speaker 1: want to say they're better off without them, because we 444 00:23:51,268 --> 00:23:53,108 Speaker 1: were able to see what he was, what he did 445 00:23:53,188 --> 00:23:55,828 Speaker 1: for that organization, and I know the Legion of Boom 446 00:23:56,108 --> 00:23:58,748 Speaker 1: was the main focus while he was there. That defense 447 00:23:58,868 --> 00:24:01,868 Speaker 1: was incredible, being at the top end points allow every 448 00:24:01,948 --> 00:24:04,708 Speaker 1: single year. But he got it done. He made plays 449 00:24:04,748 --> 00:24:07,308 Speaker 1: on his feet, he made plays outside the pocket to 450 00:24:07,508 --> 00:24:10,788 Speaker 1: secure wins, to get them going, to find some momentum. 451 00:24:10,868 --> 00:24:14,148 Speaker 1: So Russell Wilson, strange and all the other acronyms and 452 00:24:14,228 --> 00:24:16,148 Speaker 1: things you want to say about him off the field, 453 00:24:16,508 --> 00:24:19,588 Speaker 1: let's rhy all of those things. On the field, he 454 00:24:19,748 --> 00:24:22,548 Speaker 1: finds a way and clutch moments to get the job done. 455 00:24:22,668 --> 00:24:25,228 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm not gonna say they're better off without him. 456 00:24:25,388 --> 00:24:27,948 Speaker 1: Broncos struggling a little bit still too, and too A 457 00:24:28,108 --> 00:24:31,028 Speaker 1: quarterback like Russ brings some faith and some belief in 458 00:24:31,108 --> 00:24:33,228 Speaker 1: the building. I can't tell you how bad that I'd 459 00:24:33,268 --> 00:24:35,308 Speaker 1: love to go here. I'm dying to go here. And 460 00:24:36,228 --> 00:24:40,428 Speaker 1: there's a thing called chemistry, there's a personality fits, there's 461 00:24:40,468 --> 00:24:43,228 Speaker 1: all sorts of extra stuff with Russell Wilson. I mean, 462 00:24:43,308 --> 00:24:45,908 Speaker 1: the word strange just Scott thrown out and it's applied 463 00:24:45,948 --> 00:24:48,748 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. I just can't get there yet. 464 00:24:49,468 --> 00:24:51,228 Speaker 1: I can't. Are you disappointed to me? People don't go 465 00:24:51,228 --> 00:24:54,708 Speaker 1: I want to hear your take. I love the Geno thing. 466 00:24:54,828 --> 00:24:57,108 Speaker 1: I love Juno as a person. I love his story 467 00:24:57,228 --> 00:24:59,308 Speaker 1: and he's playing really well. He's sitting in the completion 468 00:24:59,348 --> 00:25:01,508 Speaker 1: percentage records. There's still a point where you're like, we 469 00:25:01,588 --> 00:25:03,708 Speaker 1: have Russell Wilson and he is a killer, and he 470 00:25:03,748 --> 00:25:06,588 Speaker 1: has nine playoff wins and the engineered maybe the greatest 471 00:25:06,628 --> 00:25:10,108 Speaker 1: comeback in playoff history. It's still Russell Wills. It just 472 00:25:10,228 --> 00:25:13,148 Speaker 1: feels very hot, taky. It feels like maybe we should 473 00:25:13,188 --> 00:25:15,428 Speaker 1: go on our show and pose a question they're better 474 00:25:15,588 --> 00:25:19,308 Speaker 1: off without. And the headline really reads like that's garbage 475 00:25:19,308 --> 00:25:21,588 Speaker 1: basically for other shows, like we try to pride ourselves 476 00:25:21,628 --> 00:25:24,188 Speaker 1: some authenticity here, so I can't jump on it. I 477 00:25:24,308 --> 00:25:27,428 Speaker 1: just can't. And believe me, like I am not Russ's champion, 478 00:25:27,588 --> 00:25:30,228 Speaker 1: and they're definitely having problems with Denver, and maybe it 479 00:25:30,268 --> 00:25:32,948 Speaker 1: will work out, maybe it wouldn't. I just still have 480 00:25:32,988 --> 00:25:35,348 Speaker 1: too much respect for the purely on field product that 481 00:25:35,428 --> 00:25:37,588 Speaker 1: he presents and how magical he is. And I'm not 482 00:25:37,668 --> 00:25:39,948 Speaker 1: talking about the Legion of Boom era. I'm talking about 483 00:25:39,948 --> 00:25:42,508 Speaker 1: the DK Metcalf and Lockett era, in which he had 484 00:25:42,908 --> 00:25:46,148 Speaker 1: brilliant stretches and brilliant performances and ultimately it was flawed. 485 00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:49,868 Speaker 1: So no, I can't get to the are the Seahawks 486 00:25:50,028 --> 00:25:55,508 Speaker 1: better without Russell Wilson. Now, Now, if you want to 487 00:25:55,588 --> 00:25:58,188 Speaker 1: talk about the Cowboys better with Cooper Rush, then come 488 00:25:58,228 --> 00:26:00,348 Speaker 1: on over and sit out. I'll get to that in 489 00:26:00,388 --> 00:26:02,348 Speaker 1: a different segment. But I can't get there with Russ. 490 00:26:02,588 --> 00:26:05,548 Speaker 1: Let me present the case, and it's not hot takey, 491 00:26:05,708 --> 00:26:07,948 Speaker 1: it's Russ didn't want to be there anymore, and for 492 00:26:08,068 --> 00:26:12,668 Speaker 1: two years he had this place hostage on I'm sort 493 00:26:12,708 --> 00:26:14,188 Speaker 1: of here, I'm not sort of here. He went to 494 00:26:14,308 --> 00:26:16,908 Speaker 1: his agent and listed different cities he would want to 495 00:26:16,988 --> 00:26:19,948 Speaker 1: play in. That hovers over an entire organization. Does our 496 00:26:19,988 --> 00:26:22,388 Speaker 1: quarterback want to be here? Does our quarterback want to 497 00:26:22,428 --> 00:26:26,188 Speaker 1: play with us? Well? They eventually trade him And let's 498 00:26:26,188 --> 00:26:28,468 Speaker 1: look at the trade compensation that they got here for 499 00:26:28,708 --> 00:26:31,788 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. What did they get in exchange? Well, they 500 00:26:31,828 --> 00:26:33,828 Speaker 1: get Drew Lock who's now the backup quarterback. They get 501 00:26:33,868 --> 00:26:36,068 Speaker 1: no offense starting tight end, they get Shelby Harris Starter, 502 00:26:36,188 --> 00:26:39,708 Speaker 1: they get two different first round picks, two different second 503 00:26:39,788 --> 00:26:42,548 Speaker 1: round picks, a fifth round pick. And you know what 504 00:26:42,588 --> 00:26:44,668 Speaker 1: they're paying Geno Smith right now? If they're paying Geno 505 00:26:44,708 --> 00:26:46,788 Speaker 1: Smith a half a million dollars with bonuses that can 506 00:26:46,868 --> 00:26:49,308 Speaker 1: be up to four million. There, Gino spits on a 507 00:26:49,388 --> 00:26:53,308 Speaker 1: one year deal. To me, it's Russell's thirty two, doesn't 508 00:26:53,348 --> 00:26:55,708 Speaker 1: want to be here. I think his best football might 509 00:26:55,828 --> 00:26:58,948 Speaker 1: be for the Seattle Seahawks behind him, And the last 510 00:26:58,988 --> 00:27:00,988 Speaker 1: two years we haven't done anything in the playoffs. So 511 00:27:01,868 --> 00:27:03,708 Speaker 1: are we better off without him? Maybe if you go 512 00:27:03,788 --> 00:27:06,268 Speaker 1: one for one Gino Smith versus Russell Wilson, you'd say 513 00:27:06,268 --> 00:27:09,068 Speaker 1: I'd take Russell Wilson. But in this particular situation, in 514 00:27:09,228 --> 00:27:12,468 Speaker 1: a vacuum, gosh, Gino Smith looks good, and Shane Waldron's 515 00:27:12,508 --> 00:27:15,428 Speaker 1: offense looks better than Russell did last year, sure looks comfortable, 516 00:27:15,788 --> 00:27:18,508 Speaker 1: and Gino wants to be there. Gino wants to be 517 00:27:18,588 --> 00:27:22,788 Speaker 1: there and is making one hundredth of what Russell was making. 518 00:27:23,268 --> 00:27:25,148 Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks were ready for a change. I 519 00:27:25,188 --> 00:27:26,748 Speaker 1: think Russell was ready for a change. If he listen 520 00:27:26,788 --> 00:27:30,108 Speaker 1: to Pete Carroll in his conversations, he makes it very 521 00:27:30,308 --> 00:27:33,988 Speaker 1: clear that hey, we're good with what the guy we 522 00:27:34,188 --> 00:27:37,548 Speaker 1: got is doing and how we are so Jason, no 523 00:27:37,668 --> 00:27:40,508 Speaker 1: one's taking away Russell Wilson's achievements. This guy is going 524 00:27:40,588 --> 00:27:41,788 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. I don't think he ever 525 00:27:41,868 --> 00:27:43,548 Speaker 1: takes another snap. He's going to the Hall of Fame. 526 00:27:43,788 --> 00:27:46,508 Speaker 1: That's how good he is. But at thirty two years old, 527 00:27:47,108 --> 00:27:49,988 Speaker 1: after two years of this hovering, I don't know if 528 00:27:50,028 --> 00:27:51,908 Speaker 1: I want to be here. I'm not I do want 529 00:27:51,948 --> 00:27:56,788 Speaker 1: to be here. Maybe go Hawks, go good riddance, go 530 00:27:57,068 --> 00:28:00,068 Speaker 1: on to your next venture. We like what we've got here, 531 00:28:00,148 --> 00:28:03,748 Speaker 1: and Gino Smith, for far less expensive price tag is 532 00:28:03,788 --> 00:28:06,588 Speaker 1: getting the job done, if not better, at least as 533 00:28:08,108 --> 00:28:10,148 Speaker 1: in a comparable way as to what Russell was doing 534 00:28:10,188 --> 00:28:12,948 Speaker 1: in this offense. That's all we can answer. The question, too, 535 00:28:13,068 --> 00:28:15,348 Speaker 1: is so far I think to project a Geno Smith 536 00:28:15,428 --> 00:28:18,108 Speaker 1: led Seahawks team to have the playoff success that Russell 537 00:28:18,148 --> 00:28:20,708 Speaker 1: Wilson is that's that's a little too far to go 538 00:28:20,828 --> 00:28:23,508 Speaker 1: with when you're going to extrapolate the situation. But you 539 00:28:23,588 --> 00:28:25,588 Speaker 1: go with the numbers in the trade and the compensation. 540 00:28:25,748 --> 00:28:27,628 Speaker 1: Then the bronchoes it to pay the guy, which was 541 00:28:27,708 --> 00:28:30,268 Speaker 1: an even further commitment to the situation. I'm going to 542 00:28:30,308 --> 00:28:33,268 Speaker 1: go with the vibe check here, which to Peter's point, 543 00:28:33,628 --> 00:28:37,028 Speaker 1: this was just an awkward thing. I think Russell Wilson 544 00:28:37,108 --> 00:28:38,748 Speaker 1: seems like a guy that really was to be liked, 545 00:28:39,148 --> 00:28:41,308 Speaker 1: and I think he wanted to go to Seattle week 546 00:28:41,388 --> 00:28:45,748 Speaker 1: one opening night and be cheered on, to be received well, 547 00:28:45,948 --> 00:28:48,788 Speaker 1: to have a warm, fuzzy feelings in the building. And 548 00:28:49,228 --> 00:28:51,628 Speaker 1: it was not that I specifically asked for the booze 549 00:28:51,668 --> 00:28:53,748 Speaker 1: to be not played during this because I feel badly 550 00:28:53,828 --> 00:28:56,068 Speaker 1: that that's they were as loud as they were. But 551 00:28:56,428 --> 00:28:58,628 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll kind of drew that up the week before. 552 00:28:58,708 --> 00:29:00,748 Speaker 1: The fans will know how to handle it when Russell 553 00:29:00,748 --> 00:29:03,028 Speaker 1: Wilson walks back in the building, and they handled it 554 00:29:03,148 --> 00:29:07,548 Speaker 1: as they wanted to. Pete Carroll is a fantastic coach 555 00:29:07,628 --> 00:29:09,588 Speaker 1: and it was gonna be that guy or the other 556 00:29:10,028 --> 00:29:12,468 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson. It's not really a connection between the 557 00:29:12,508 --> 00:29:15,428 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. It's more that I think the Seahawks as 558 00:29:15,468 --> 00:29:18,108 Speaker 1: a franchise moving forward with Pete Carroll as your quarterback 559 00:29:18,268 --> 00:29:21,868 Speaker 1: are better off without Russell Geno your quarterback with you know, 560 00:29:22,068 --> 00:29:24,308 Speaker 1: but it's not about Gino. It's about the organization, and 561 00:29:24,428 --> 00:29:26,228 Speaker 1: I think that it is better off without Russell Wilson. 562 00:29:26,348 --> 00:29:29,108 Speaker 1: There's the hover factor, yeah, the word hover, but then 563 00:29:29,108 --> 00:29:31,668 Speaker 1: there's also the are you a good player? Fact, which 564 00:29:31,708 --> 00:29:34,548 Speaker 1: trump's the hover two and two? All right, is Geno 565 00:29:34,588 --> 00:29:36,188 Speaker 1: Smith had a big win, yet they get crushed by 566 00:29:36,188 --> 00:29:37,708 Speaker 1: the Niners. They beat the Lions. You know what Russell 567 00:29:37,708 --> 00:29:39,308 Speaker 1: Wilson would have done to that Lions team. He would 568 00:29:39,308 --> 00:29:42,188 Speaker 1: have gone for five hundred yards. So like about Russell 569 00:29:42,188 --> 00:29:43,548 Speaker 1: Wilson in the first couple of weeks, like you know 570 00:29:43,588 --> 00:29:44,908 Speaker 1: what he's gonna do to this team or that, and 571 00:29:45,028 --> 00:29:48,228 Speaker 1: he hasn't done that yet. But Seattle, like the hover 572 00:29:48,348 --> 00:29:50,028 Speaker 1: thing is real? But is Gino going to be? Are 573 00:29:50,028 --> 00:29:51,668 Speaker 1: we talking about Geno on Week nine and week twelve? 574 00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:55,268 Speaker 1: One week there? I don't know. NFL's ore, NFC's Offensive 575 00:29:55,268 --> 00:29:57,068 Speaker 1: Player of the Week. He leads every stat and a 576 00:29:57,148 --> 00:30:00,828 Speaker 1: good start and I'm start like one year deal. There's 577 00:30:00,868 --> 00:30:02,708 Speaker 1: nothing to lose for I'm talking about is Seattle better 578 00:30:02,748 --> 00:30:05,228 Speaker 1: off without Russell Wilson not is Geno Smith? Yes? Yeah, yeah, 579 00:30:05,228 --> 00:30:07,268 Speaker 1: well see I think right now they are better without 580 00:30:07,348 --> 00:30:09,268 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. And it was time to move on because 581 00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:11,748 Speaker 1: of the situation that it was. It was a toxic situation. Yeah, 582 00:30:11,868 --> 00:30:14,068 Speaker 1: go on, chase your dreams, Go be a Denver Bronco. 583 00:30:14,668 --> 00:30:16,788 Speaker 1: All right, Time for a Thursday I preview odds becausent 584 00:30:16,828 --> 00:30:19,108 Speaker 1: of my Draft King sports book. It'll be the Colt 585 00:30:19,188 --> 00:30:22,228 Speaker 1: shaken on the Broncos in Denver tonight. Russell Wilson is 586 00:30:22,268 --> 00:30:24,548 Speaker 1: looking to get this team back on track after division 587 00:30:24,628 --> 00:30:26,588 Speaker 1: lost to the Raiders last week. The big story is 588 00:30:26,588 --> 00:30:28,868 Speaker 1: that both teams are down started running backs. As Tom 589 00:30:28,948 --> 00:30:31,868 Speaker 1: Pellasero has covered at its nauseum, it'll be the Heam 590 00:30:31,988 --> 00:30:35,788 Speaker 1: Hines and Melvin Gordon handling a bulk of the carries tonight. So, guys, 591 00:30:36,108 --> 00:30:38,268 Speaker 1: which one of these players do you think we'll step 592 00:30:38,388 --> 00:30:41,388 Speaker 1: it up as we look at those various lines and numbers. Yeah, 593 00:30:41,468 --> 00:30:43,868 Speaker 1: to the fans of the Draft Kings segment, I would 594 00:30:43,868 --> 00:30:46,188 Speaker 1: say Melvin Gordon's my guy. I think there's a redemption 595 00:30:46,268 --> 00:30:48,148 Speaker 1: story here after the fumble last week. I think he 596 00:30:48,228 --> 00:30:50,148 Speaker 1: goes over sixty four and a half. I think this 597 00:30:50,268 --> 00:30:52,268 Speaker 1: guy has a huge night tonight. I know all everyone's 598 00:30:52,268 --> 00:30:55,508 Speaker 1: tat tweeting me, Latavius and Boone, and I think Melvin's 599 00:30:55,548 --> 00:30:57,508 Speaker 1: the guy. I honestly do. I think that they're gonna 600 00:30:57,548 --> 00:30:59,268 Speaker 1: They're not gonna run away from If anything, they're gonna 601 00:30:59,308 --> 00:31:01,748 Speaker 1: lean into it. Melvin Gordon puts up a big game tonight, 602 00:31:01,788 --> 00:31:04,028 Speaker 1: and I think he goes way over sixty four. Watch 603 00:31:04,108 --> 00:31:06,428 Speaker 1: the Holds tacklers. Every time Elvin Gordon has the ball, 604 00:31:06,508 --> 00:31:08,988 Speaker 1: they're gonna be ripping that thing. They're gonna be on him. 605 00:31:09,028 --> 00:31:11,948 Speaker 1: They're all they talked about all the week, ripped this 606 00:31:12,028 --> 00:31:14,108 Speaker 1: ball out. I hope. I love Himlvin from but I 607 00:31:14,108 --> 00:31:16,548 Speaker 1: also love nahem Hines. He has a huge opportunity year. 608 00:31:16,588 --> 00:31:19,708 Speaker 1: He's always been this explosive, athletic, really likable, kind of eccentric, 609 00:31:19,868 --> 00:31:23,868 Speaker 1: entertaining guy. John Tell's not going Jonthan Taylor is Elvis 610 00:31:23,948 --> 00:31:26,348 Speaker 1: in that offense right now, and now hem Hins the 611 00:31:26,428 --> 00:31:28,388 Speaker 1: anytime score he'll score in this game. I think he'll 612 00:31:28,388 --> 00:31:30,668 Speaker 1: score a couple of times in this game. Nw Hemhines 613 00:31:30,668 --> 00:31:32,868 Speaker 1: always explosive, catching, the ball. I think I'll have eight 614 00:31:32,908 --> 00:31:34,428 Speaker 1: or nine catches and at least one touched. I think 615 00:31:34,468 --> 00:31:36,508 Speaker 1: he never a big night. Yeah, I'm going with Russell 616 00:31:36,668 --> 00:31:39,548 Speaker 1: Wilson over two hundred and sixty nine yards. He had 617 00:31:39,588 --> 00:31:43,028 Speaker 1: his best game as a Bronco last week against the Raiders. Yes, 618 00:31:43,108 --> 00:31:45,588 Speaker 1: they lost the game, but it was his best game passing. 619 00:31:45,908 --> 00:31:48,908 Speaker 1: And for me, Russ, this is his opportunity Thursday Night football. 620 00:31:49,028 --> 00:31:51,548 Speaker 1: We talked about it just a few seconds ago, how 621 00:31:51,628 --> 00:31:54,628 Speaker 1: he struggled in that Denver Broncos offense. The first prime 622 00:31:54,708 --> 00:31:57,468 Speaker 1: time game goes back to Seattle, gets booze and all 623 00:31:57,508 --> 00:31:59,428 Speaker 1: of that. Doesn't play as great as game and he 624 00:31:59,508 --> 00:32:01,588 Speaker 1: played before it. It hasn't been great. And I think 625 00:32:01,668 --> 00:32:05,948 Speaker 1: for tonight Russ shows up, shows out. No, Javonte Williams 626 00:32:06,068 --> 00:32:08,788 Speaker 1: Moore is going to be on his shoulder. Let it lose, 627 00:32:08,828 --> 00:32:10,948 Speaker 1: get it down there to Sutton and Judy and see 628 00:32:10,988 --> 00:32:12,788 Speaker 1: what they do with They go ahead with Russ over 629 00:32:12,868 --> 00:32:15,828 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty nine yards. 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