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Speaker 2: Yet it feels important because right now that she's still

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Speaker 2: But you got to win these games. And Denver's playing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point because just to rush up

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Speaker 1: So why not talk to Kingsley suit Matya And what

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. It's just been so exciting though, to see

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Speaker 4: Probably just a lot of trusting God, trusting the coaches,

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Speaker 2: So I think your first start ever at guard in

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Speaker 2: the NFL was against the Broncos right last year in

438
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Speaker 2: Week eighteen. Where do you think you've grown the most

439
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 2: between that game and now?

440
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Speaker 4: I would definitely say the mental aspect of it all, Like

441
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Speaker 4: moving from tagle to guard tackle, you got the whole space.

442
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Speaker 4: But being in guard is like that phone booth. But

443
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Speaker 4: I fell in love with it. So that's probably the

444
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Speaker 4: biggest thing, is just the mental part.

445
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Speaker 1: The physical part in the fact of working shoulder to

446
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Speaker 1: shoulder with Creed. Now you've had some different tackles. We're

447
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Speaker 1: getting Josh back, but we've had different tackles since then.

448
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Speaker 1: But twists and stunts and games. How big is it

449
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Speaker 1: to work with those guys on you're right and left?

450
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Speaker 4: Oh, it's definitely important. It's definitely different being in the

451
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Speaker 4: middle of it all, having to work with Creed and

452
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Speaker 4: then having to work with my tagle. But I remember

453
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Speaker 4: my first twist I ever saw. It was all happened

454
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Speaker 4: so fast. I was like, I think I have guy.

455
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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's definitely a big learning Yeah.

456
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Speaker 2: So this Bronco squad, is this the first team that

457
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Speaker 2: you face twice now as a guard.

458
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Speaker 3: It must have been right.

459
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Speaker 2: And I remember you saying after the game that Zach

460
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Speaker 2: Allen was like, hey man, you're pretty good at this.

461
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Speaker 3: Have you thought about that at all?

462
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Speaker 2: Like you're gonna face them here again and you have

463
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Speaker 2: a chance to go up against the team for the

464
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Speaker 2: second time now at guard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, most definitely. He's definitely one heck of a player

466
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Speaker 4: and you see what he does on the field, and

467
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Speaker 4: but yeah, it definitely be a good It would be

468
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Speaker 4: a good matchup. So I'm excited to go against him

469
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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Kingsley, this Bronco front is elite. I mean

471
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Speaker 1: we know that. What do you think makes them so?

472
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Speaker 1: And then the best countermeasures against them?

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Speaker 4: M I think all of them just have a great motor,

474
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Speaker 4: from their DS to their D tackles in the middle,

475
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Speaker 4: just the whole defense. They played with a high motor.

476
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Speaker 4: But I'm definitely excited this week what we got throwing

477
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Speaker 4: at them, starting to run game all strong and then

478
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Speaker 4: just opening the pockets with whatever we got with the throws.

479
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Speaker 2: You think that Buye fell at a good time where

480
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Speaker 2: you guys can kind of get healthy recharge and kind

481
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Speaker 2: of attack the second half of the season.

482
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Speaker 4: No, yeah, most definitely. It was definitely a good time

483
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Speaker 4: to have some time off. But man, we're ready to roll.

484
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Speaker 4: Man like we never astray, Like we're all stuck together.

485
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Speaker 4: We're ready to attack this rest of the half of

486
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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 1: What's been so fun Kingsley is to watch you, whether

488
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Speaker 1: it's power and you're pulling guard to guard, it just

489
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Speaker 1: real fun. Or you're the place side guard. What happens

490
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Speaker 1: when you get the play call and you're going, oh,

491
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Speaker 1: it's that play that you like.

492
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Speaker 4: It's definitely exciting. I don't know I get sided any play,

493
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Speaker 4: but probably like when you call it pulling play and

494
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Speaker 4: I'm pulling, like I'm just excited to run a full

495
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Speaker 4: speeding to hit somebody.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, you're pretty good at that.

497
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Speaker 2: Is there someone on the offensive line that you've kind

498
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Speaker 2: of leaned on over the last year, whether it be

499
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Speaker 2: Tray or Creed or whoever, and kind of has helped

500
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Speaker 2: you develop into an interior alignment?

501
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Speaker 4: Most definitely Tray and Creed. It's it's even across the

502
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Speaker 4: board and even JT when I was at tackle. So

503
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 4: they all have helped me be the player that I

504
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Speaker 4: am today and I thank them for it. So yeah.

505
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Speaker 1: One cool thing too is the screen game, and the

506
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Speaker 1: screen game is a art form. How much have you

507
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Speaker 1: learned about being an effective screen player as a.

508
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Speaker 4: Guard flat and getting vertical? That's that's been the main thing,

509
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Speaker 4: especially when you know he's like give vertical, down down,

510
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 4: your eyes get all over the place. When you see guys,

511
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Speaker 4: little guys running down, you want to chase him on

512
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Speaker 4: an angle. Just get vertical. And the guys behind us

513
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Speaker 4: don't do the rice.

514
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Speaker 2: So the NFL and even college football acumen in your

515
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: family is crazy, Like your family tree is nuts with

516
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Speaker 2: like NFL players, Is there anyone that has reached out

517
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Speaker 2: to you or that you kind of keep in close

518
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Speaker 2: contact with in terms of your growth as a player?

519
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Speaker 3: Right now?

520
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Speaker 4: All of them? Uh, just yesterday text hit all of us.

521
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Speaker 4: Know Jacob Robinson with my boys I played with a

522
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Speaker 4: high school. He's at the Niners. So he yeah, he

523
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Speaker 4: checked all of us and see how we're all doing.

524
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Speaker 4: So yeah, definitely all of them. They all hit up

525
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 4: all I text him. He takes bag, So yeah, it's good.

526
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Speaker 3: It's super cool. When you and Penay got the exchange jerseys.

527
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Speaker 4: That was also definitely Yeah, I needed that one.

528
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that being said, I like, if it's a

529
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Speaker 1: family reunion. You guys got video up and you know

530
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Speaker 1: you're I can't imagine what your family reunions would be like,

531
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Speaker 1: exchanging stories.

532
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Speaker 4: A lot of stories about a lot of foods. Yeah,

533
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Speaker 4: there's gonna be a lot of food. There's a favorite

534
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Speaker 4: food at the family reunion you're going to. I hope

535
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Speaker 4: this is there because I'm gonna devour it. M I'll

536
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Speaker 4: probably just say pig.

537
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do this thing.

538
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 4: You cook it underground, put some rocks over in some

539
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 4: dirty and let it cook all day.

540
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

541
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Speaker 4: So yeah, by anything.

542
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Speaker 1: Anything, Well, let's hope it's cooking all day, because it's

543
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: been cooking all season. Kingsley, am I to you thanks

544
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: to Kingsley and Man to see his growth at Left

545
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: Guard is huge, no pun intended, sounds like Chiefs Kingdom Show,

546
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: but he really has come on.

547
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for him. We knew he had great potential,

548
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: just a matter of going out there and playing and

549
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 2: doing it and getting that experience. I mean, he's still

550
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: super young. He was drafted at twenty one years old.

551
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: His whole career is still ahead of him, and all

552
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 2: the talent in the world and I think it's kind

553
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Speaker 2: of cool that his first start at guard ever was

554
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Speaker 2: against the Broncos last year. And he was talking earlier

555
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Speaker 2: this year about how Zach Allen made a point of

556
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Speaker 2: going up to him and saying, hey man, look you're

557
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 2: pretty good, like you have a future in this Well,

558
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: now we're going to Denver for a very important game.

559
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: Kingsley has some more starts under his belt at guard,

560
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: and across the way is Zach Allen got to have

561
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Speaker 2: another good game against that guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I still want to go to one of

563
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Speaker 1: those family reunions and yeah, have you know because my

564
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: mouth salivating and then I just talked football with these guys.

565
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: But let's get into the Stanver offense and let's just

566
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Speaker 1: start where it's I think it's most impactful, and that's

567
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Speaker 1: the offensive line. Bulls has really improved it left tackle,

568
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: but the Quinn Minors is leading this offensive line. He's

569
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Speaker 1: a stud at right guard. We've featured him before when

570
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: he came out of Wisconsin Whitewater, but he's just he's

571
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Speaker 1: grown leaps and bounds. I mean, this is a guy

572
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Speaker 1: that's in the Creed Humphrey Trace Smith area offensive line.

573
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Speaker 1: The pressure rate is excellent. They have allowed the second

574
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Speaker 1: few of sacks in the National Football League. They've only

575
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Speaker 1: allowed ten when you look at what they've allowed. But

576
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Speaker 1: here's another thing. They're number two in the NFL and

577
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Speaker 1: clock killing drives. So if the game is there, this

578
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Speaker 1: is where the bigger reason they're eight and two and

579
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: they're winning one possession games. When it's the games there critical,

580
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: the offensive line just shuts it down. And so that's

581
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Speaker 1: what this group has done. Otherwise, when you look at

582
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Speaker 1: this team offensively, you're going wow. I mean, they're the

583
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Speaker 1: third team in NFL history to win seven games of

584
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Speaker 1: their eight where they did not score first in a game.

585
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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna give him credit. Don't take this as

586
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Speaker 1: a criticism. It's just a fact. And the fact that

587
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: he has six career wins where his pass rated passer

588
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: rating is below seventy. He had a fifty four point

589
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: eight passer rating and they won against the Raiders that game.

590
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Speaker 1: The ten to seven game against the Raiders the Thursday

591
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Speaker 1: night before this one, was they both had I believe,

592
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Speaker 1: more penalties and first downs that hadn't happened since the

593
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Speaker 1: seventy six expansion battle between the Seahawks and the Buccaneers.

594
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: And yet offensively they're efficient and this offensive line is

595
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Speaker 1: good enough and really good at times to say game over.

596
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot to break down here with these guys,

597
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: like you said, a really interesting offensive study. So, talking

598
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: about Nicks specifically, it's been up and down. Right, he

599
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: has eighteen touchdown passes. That's good, but he's also completing

600
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: just sixty percent of his passes. That's twenty seventh in

601
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Speaker 2: the NFL among qualified passers. He's also averaging just six

602
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: yards per attempt. That's twenty ninth in the NFL. So

603
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: it's a lot of like short stuff right, short quick passes,

604
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: role outs, boots, stuff like that. He's attempted forty seven

605
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: throws of twenty or more yards like air yards this year.

606
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: That's actually tied with Matthew Stafford for the most in

607
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: the NFL, but he's only completing thirty two percent of those.

608
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: A's the lowest completion percentage among quarterbacks with at least

609
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Speaker 2: forty deep attempts. Now, their running game is really interesting.

610
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Speaker 2: It gets back to their offensive line, like you were saying,

611
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: their role offense is built around their running game. They're

612
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Speaker 2: averaging one hundred and twenty nine rushing yards per game

613
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Speaker 2: between JK. Dobbins and RJ. Harvey. Harvey is a kind

614
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: of an exciting player. He's interesting to watch. Dobbins is

615
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: having a great year, though. He's fifth in the NFL

616
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Speaker 2: in rushing yards with nearly eight hundred, averaging over five

617
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: yards per carry. Doesn't have a bunch of huge games

618
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Speaker 2: by any means, but he's topped at least sixty rushing

619
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Speaker 2: yards and nine of his ten games. And what that

620
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: does opens up their play action passing game, and Knicks

621
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: has been using a lot of play action this year.

622
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Speaker 2: Twenty eight percent of his dropbacks have used play action.

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Speaker 2: They're just inconsistent overall. I mean they've scored at least

624
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Speaker 2: twenty eight points four times, but also twenty or fewer

625
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: points five times, and like a lot of.

626
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Speaker 3: Fourth quarter heroics.

627
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: So they have the best point differential in the fourth

628
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: quarter of any team in the NFL at plus sixty.

629
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Speaker 2: They were losing in the fourth quarter against the Eagles,

630
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: the Jets, the Giants, and the Texans and maybe some

631
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: more games. That was just a quick look for me,

632
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 2: and they won all those games, so you give them credit.

633
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: Knicks has made plays late in these games when he

634
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: really needs to. But this offense has been inconsistent overall.

635
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: That's just factual. And if the Chiefs in this game,

636
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: you can't let Denver be in the game late because listen,

637
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: we talked about our team last year how we found

638
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: ways to win right well, will be not hypocritical. The Broncos,

639
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: to their credit, have found ways to win these games late.

640
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: If you're the Chiefs, keep the pressure on these guys

641
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: offensively where they have to match you score for score.

642
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: Hard to do against this great Broncos defense, but that's

643
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: kind of been the trend here is the Broncos have

644
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: been able to hang around in some of these games

645
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: where maybe they didn't play well offensively and they found

646
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: a way in the end. Can't that happened here on Sunday?

647
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, easier said than done. This Denver defense really goes

648
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: back to last year. They've had the least points allowed

649
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: over twenty seven games, not just the ten games this year,

650
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: but this ying and yang of like, offensively, what are they?

651
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: What are they? Only ten points in their first offensive possessions?

652
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: Only ten? Now only Tennessee and Washington are worse, so

653
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Speaker 1: like okay, and part of the incompletions they have. Only

654
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville's got more drop passes on a percentage than these guys.

655
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Speaker 1: So if Bo's off target some, they're also dropping a

656
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Speaker 1: bunch with these guys. And so again it's it's they're

657
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: just an interesting group to follow. There's six and two

658
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: in the one score games. Last year they were one

659
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: and six and still made the playoffs. We're owing four

660
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Speaker 1: in those games, and we're owing four, So people are, well,

661
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: that's either or now. Last year, Okay, maybe maybe so,

662
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: but maybe the Chiefs will get hot in one score games.

663
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. But again, it's an exception defense, a

664
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Speaker 1: resourceful offense. I know you've got a stat here because

665
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Speaker 1: they have one hundred and nineteen offensive possessions one hundred

666
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Speaker 1: and nineteen, but they have on those thirty four to

667
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: three and outs. Only Philadelphia has more three and outs

668
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: than these guys.

669
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're three and out percentage is twenty nine percent,

670
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: second highest in the league. But yeah, you mentioned the

671
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: offensive possessions. One hundred and nineteen offensive possessions is crazy. Now,

672
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: they haven't had their buy yet, so they've played an

673
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: extra game, but one hundred nineteen offensive possessions most in

674
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: the NFL. The Chiefs only have eighty four offensive possessions

675
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: this year, fewest in the NFL. Why don't we bring

676
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Speaker 2: this up? Well, both teams have scored exactly twenty eight touchdowns.

677
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: So the Chiefs have twenty eight touchdown drives on their

678
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: eighty four possessions. The Broncos have twenty eight touchdown drives

679
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Speaker 2: on their one hundred and nineteen possessions. That is a

680
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Speaker 2: difference of thirty five possessions, and the Chiefs have the

681
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Speaker 2: same number of touchdown drives. It's easy to watch the

682
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: Bills game and to get frustrated and to say, man,

683
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: the offense like it isn't finding ways to move up

684
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: and down the field. This offense overall this year, especially

685
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: once everyone got back, has been so good. Like go

686
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: back to the Detroit game right or the Raiders game,

687
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: or wherever it may be, Like, this offense is humming overall.

688
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: A bit of a speed bump against Buffalo, not quite

689
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: what we expected in that game, But this offense is

690
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: still really good. And I think it's a fun matchup

691
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: between a great defense in Denver and an offense that

692
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: had a week to get healthy over the bye, a

693
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Speaker 2: week to recharge and to go.

694
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Speaker 3: After these guys.

695
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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be an awesome matchup and hopefully

696
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: the Chiefs offense can win more often than the the

697
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Speaker 2: Broncos defense does.

698
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's critical. But someone who's had an eye

699
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: on the Broncos and everybody else in the AFC West

700
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: a long time before this was our AFC West spy,

701
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: Ari Wolf. So let's check in with Ari and see

702
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Speaker 1: what he thinks about this game, the rest of the

703
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: division and the rest of the league.

704
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Speaker 6: Hello to everyone a week eleven. Excited to see Matt

705
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 6: Midge the bye week, you know for the team. Great

706
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 6: to get some rest. I missed you guys a lot.

707
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 6: Can't wait to get back to out West. This week

708
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 6: we begin in the AFC West, as we always do.

709
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Speaker 6: The Thursday Night game last week featured Denver and Las Vegas,

710
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 6: a football game that my eyes were tortured at times.

711
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 6: It was one of the worst Thursday Night games I've

712
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Speaker 6: ever seen. Somehow, Denver escapes their ten and with a

713
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 6: ten to seven win, they've now won seven straight games.

714
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 6: They had more penalties than points. Nick throws two picks,

715
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 6: only throws for one hundred and fifty yards and he's

716
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Speaker 6: the player of the game. Gino Smith is terribly banged

717
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 6: up late in the game. Why he keeps going back

718
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 6: out there and not letting Kenny Pickett play was making

719
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Speaker 6: my mind want to pop. Gentlemen, explain to me how

720
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Speaker 6: Denver is eight and two and why the Raiders aren't

721
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Speaker 6: at least considering giving Kenny Pickett a shot. Matt, let's

722
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Speaker 6: start with you.

723
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a tough one. The whole primetime slate

724
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: this past week was pretty difficult. Now, being the sick

725
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: that I am, I watched every second of it. I

726
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: could not turn off Broncos Raiders, even though I wanted

727
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: to at times. To answer your question, the Broncos defense

728
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: is terrific, and it's something that Mitch and I have

729
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: been talking about on the podcast.

730
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Speaker 3: Their defense is awesome.

731
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: Their pass rush is incredible, something that we'll have to

732
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 2: deal with here this Sunday. But Gino and the Raiders'

733
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: offense really didn't have much of a chance. Now, it's

734
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Speaker 2: interesting how football comes down to a couple of plays,

735
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Speaker 2: because the Raiders early on looked like they had a

736
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Speaker 2: pretty good game plan and Jenty had a couple of

737
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: big runs, they had a touchdown, but all taken off

738
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: the board right, and then late in the game when

739
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: it was still there for the Raiders, the ball goes

740
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: off Genty's face mask and into the arms of Broncos defender.

741
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: So the Raiders have struggled this year, as we know,

742
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: and the margin for them is pretty thin against a

743
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: good team like Dender. But the Raiders had their chances,

744
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: unfortunately came up short.

745
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Speaker 1: I just get mesbrized because I want to see Zimbabwe,

746
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: but now you're covering it up. So and my daughter

747
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: was ins for two and a half years, and that's

748
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: right behind your left ear.

749
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 5: But it's I love your Matt.

750
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: The I felt like it was one of those like

751
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: lower level World Cup games that was nil nil until

752
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: like a red card happened and then somebody got to kick,

753
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, kick it from point blank range and won

754
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: one nil in advance. Uh. To be honest, Denver's a

755
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: very interesting study. Matt and I have been talking. I

756
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: don't think we've seen a team quite like this probably

757
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: for a quarter century, in that their defense is historic.

758
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: They're on a sack trail to blow out the eighty

759
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 1: five Bears. It's the most sacks in ten games since

760
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: the eighty nine Vikings.

761
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 5: But it's their quick pressure rate.

762
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: The fact that how do you negate great upfront pressure,

763
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball, get get out fast. Right

764
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: two is out in two point two seconds and Trevor

765
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Lawrence is out in two point These guys get pressure

766
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: faster than anybody in the league. But Nito is an animal.

767
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: Zach Allen might be the most underrated player in the

768
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: entire league. And then and don't forget Jonathan Cooper who's

769
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: he's really good. So that's how they win the game.

770
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: They just completely put to take all four tires and

771
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: take all the air out and then you got to

772
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: somehow grind away now offensively, yeah, the Broncos. I mean

773
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: when you look at bow Nick's as six career wins

774
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: with an under seventy passer rating, it's almost like he

775
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything through the semester and then he takes

776
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: the final and gets an A because he's awesome in

777
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. I got to give him credit, but

778
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: it's like what's going on in the other three quarters?

779
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is good and really improve mclinchy and

780
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: how he's improved in bulls is big time. And then

781
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 1: Miners as a stud. But that's that's why these guys

782
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: are eight and two now they're kind of the Chiefs

783
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four. Right, Let's be honest, we had

784
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: eleven one score wins. Can't do it that way? Wow,

785
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: that I don't know. You just can't do that. In

786
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: the NFL, Broncos do it. That's a gritty team. But

787
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: they're doing the same thing the Chiefs are a year ago. Sorry, folks,

788
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: that's what's going on, all right.

789
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 6: I want to follow over with you mentioned one other

790
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 6: comparison I had to what Denver is doing. It kind

791
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 6: of reminds me of the Trent del for Ravens that

792
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 6: had the incredible defense to ray Lewis right, I mean,

793
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 6: their offense was hard to watch. They had the big

794
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 6: tailback a boy. Other than that, their defense carry him

795
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 6: to a lot of games.

796
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the Brad Johnson Bucks too. The Brad

797
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: Johnson Bucks about too.

798
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 6: So you know some quarterbacks. You know, when we think

799
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 6: about Super Bowl champion quarterbacks and their name pubs, that'd

800
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 6: be like, oh, that guy won a Super Bowl. Will

801
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 6: Brad Johnson tred Dell for them would certainly be included.

802
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 6: Let's move on next to the Chargers, who improved a

803
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 6: seven to three. Yes, in primetime, it was not particularly

804
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 6: entertaining games. The Chargers have won three straight. They've overcome

805
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 6: a ton of injuries. I think you guys will like

806
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 6: this quote from Harbaugh. It was so It's so Jim Harbough.

807
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 6: He said, quote, it was won by hart, grit, and guts,

808
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 6: And that's what this one was. They stopped Aaron Rodgers,

809
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 6: but I kept seeing Justin Herbert get hit again again

810
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 6: and again. They win twenty five to ten, but he's

811
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 6: still getting hit every game. Is that sustainable? Is this

812
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 6: Charger seven and three team? Is this going to be

813
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 6: a team that can win eleven twelve games? I don't

814
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 6: see it. But you guys have been following this team

815
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 6: all of your lives. Let me tell me. Is this

816
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 6: Charger seven and three team a real threat in the AFC?

817
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: Well, not having Joe Alt is a really big deal.

818
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: You know, he gets hurt, goes an ir, comes back

819
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: and gets hurt again, and I believe he's out for

820
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: the season. Now that's a huge deal. Look at where

821
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: they began the season with Slater and All maybe two

822
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: of the best bookends in all of football. Well, now

823
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: you don't have either of those guys, and that's a

824
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: big deal.

825
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: Now.

826
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Speaker 2: I thought Pittsburgh's pass rush would control the game more

827
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 2: so they got after Herbert got him on the ground

828
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 2: pretty often, but it didn't seem to matter because Aaron

829
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: Rodgers was throwing the ball directly to Charger defenders on

830
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: the other side. It's one of the worst games I've

831
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: ever seen Rogers play, really bizarre, like he was missing

832
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: high a lot. The Steelers had chances in that game

833
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: until they didn't because they just kept giving the Chargers

834
00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: offense the ball.

835
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: So uh.

836
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: The Steelers defense I think did their part for the

837
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: most part in that game until it was out of reach.

838
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: Really no fault of their own, but I do wonder

839
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: how sustainable it is for the Chargers moving forward with

840
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: their protection. But hey, we'll give them credit. They have

841
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: the record right now, they're playing good football and they're

842
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: finding ways to win games. I won't criticize them for that,

843
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 2: but it will be tough moving forward with their tackle situation.

844
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: Something to watch for sure.

845
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 5: Let me let me look through my Jim Harbaugh glasses.

846
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, hy sight with age, and so maybe that's

847
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: going on Aaron Rodgers. Is that black and gold or

848
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: is that blue and I can't tell the I thought

849
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: all did sobody copy and paste the Thursday night game

850
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: and just put it on this one. I thought I

851
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: was watching the same game. Seriously, it was in in

852
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: pass rush for the Chargers was great. Two week below

853
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: two is awesome. So I just thought this is the

854
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: This is the Raiders and Broncos all over again.

855
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 5: It's just the Steelers in the Chargers.

856
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 6: Well, speaking of the Steelers, so I want to make

857
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 6: a comparison to last year. You may recall that Russell

858
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 6: Wilson for the first part of the season look great

859
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 6: as the Steelers quarterback. I believe they peaked at eight

860
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 6: and three. It feels like this is deja vu, right,

861
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers gets off to the grade start, and all

862
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 6: of a sudden, the offense isn't doing anything. I'm not

863
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 6: saying it's an indictment on the Steelers offense. I'm not

864
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 6: laying it all on the quarterback, but it is interesting

865
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 6: both guys brought into that first year get off to

866
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 6: amazing starts. People are talking about the resurrection of Aaron Rodgers.

867
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 6: Just a week ago, people were saying that Aaron Rodgers

868
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 6: should consider playing another season, and then you watch the

869
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 6: game the other night and you're thinking, maybe this is

870
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 6: the final season for Aaron Rodgers. All right, now to

871
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 6: my game of last week. I have to put a

872
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 6: qualifier on it, gentlemen, because I'm bringing it up for

873
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 6: the purpose of having another conversation. Because the game itself

874
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 6: was entertaining, it didn't like blow my mind. I'm referring

875
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 6: to the Patriots at the Buccaneers, two teams winning records.

876
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people wanted to see what

877
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 6: this Patriot its team was all about. Because they go

878
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 6: on the road against a solid Tampa team, a Todd

879
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 6: Bowles defense. What would Drake May look like? Okay, so

880
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 6: the Patriots win the game. Drake May is under fifty

881
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 6: passing pedestrian numbers, throws an interception. He is currently the

882
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 6: odds maker's favorite to win the NFL MVP. What am

883
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 6: I missing? And this is really a time to let's

884
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 6: just talk NFL MVP for a few minutes. Is May

885
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 6: really a Canada to win? And what am I missing?

886
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 6: Because when I watch him, I think with this guy

887
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 6: is ascending talent. I like the way he plays, I

888
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 6: like the way he carries himself. But MVP that seems

889
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 6: to have made a huge jump in a half a season. Matt,

890
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 6: let's start with you. What are your thoughts on the

891
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 6: current MVP race.

892
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll start by saying I think May is

893
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: really good. I remember watching that game a handful of

894
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: weeks ago where they went into Buffalo and beat the Bills,

895
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: and he was awesome in that game. That showed me

896
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: a lot, So I think he's a really good player

897
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: and a big time ascending player. I do think the

898
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: MVP is all about narratives though, and narratively speaking, a

899
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: player like May going into New England and kind of

900
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: resurrecting this franchise that was so great for so long

901
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: and had some down years and now they're.

902
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: Winning their division.

903
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: You know, they go into Buffalo, they beat Buffalo, Like,

904
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: he has all the narrative stuff going on, and I

905
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: also think narratively speaking, he is so much better than

906
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: people expected him to be this early in his career.

907
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: And it's all about expectations, right. We were joking around

908
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: earlier that if mahomes there was one interception, everyone freaks

909
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: out nationally because the expectation is that he's perfect all

910
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: the time. What's kind of the opposite for May he's

911
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: a young player that has potential but maybe hasn't seized

912
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: it yet. Well, all of a sudden, he's playing pretty

913
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: good football and they're winning their division and winning big games. Well,

914
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: that narrative is through the roof because he becomes the guy.

915
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: I think right now it's probably Matthew Stafford. If I'm

916
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: being totally unbiased, I think Stafford's playing great football right now.

917
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: But it's also Week eleven, and there's a lot of

918
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: football to be played, and this thing changes every week.

919
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: I mean last week people were saying Mahomes was odds

920
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: on favorite, right, I still think Mahomes has a great

921
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: shot to win it if we can do what we

922
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: know this team can do over the last several games

923
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: of the year. But if I had to pick someone

924
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: right now, if I'm being totally unbiased, I think Stafford

925
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 2: has earned it so far.

926
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: I think there's a way bigger story here than Drake

927
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: May And I'll tell you why. And it popped up

928
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: when I thought the transformation Mike Brabels made to that

929
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: entire team. It's only the second team, only the second

930
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: team in sixty years in the Super Bowl era that

931
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: had started eight and two in a coach's first season.

932
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: The other the twenty thirteen Kansas City Chiefs. This is

933
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: a complete transformation here. When Andy came in and it

934
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: was everybody. It was from the kicker to the fifty

935
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: third guy to Alex Smith, who he brought in. To me,

936
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots are a exact replica the twenty

937
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: thirteen Sheefs. They got Stefan Diggs enjoying playing football again

938
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: and trying to be unselfish. Right, He's like, Oh, let's

939
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: just do what we need to do to win. So like, wow,

940
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: that's overcoming something. The way they run the ball, the

941
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: way they block, the way they play, the way they

942
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: play all four quarters, the way they attack every snap.

943
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: It is a complete transformation. To me. It's a little

944
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: bit refreshing to show everybody in the NBA, the MLB,

945
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: maybe even the NHL, and for sure the NFL that

946
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: a coach and a staff can make a complete transition

947
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: back to what it should be to win games. That's

948
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: what's happened here. We haven't stopped since that year, and

949
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: New England is doing it now.

950
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 6: But I also like the fact I'm just a brable guy.

951
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 6: I like everything he's about. He's He just oozes the

952
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 6: kind of football mentality that I love. So if you're

953
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 6: just talking.

954
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 5: Coaching conference, just wait a minute, Dari.

955
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: His news conferences now have become like you hope it

956
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: pops up on your reels, right if something was like

957
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: the days when Bob Knight was in his heyday at

958
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: a Indiana and we played them a couple of times

959
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 1: when I was doing k State, and I made sure

960
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: I went to his news conference just because of the

961
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: what's going to happen? Because if you have some stupid question,

962
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: he is going to put a blow toward right up

963
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: your nostrils down.

964
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 6: So now when you look at coach of the Year,

965
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 6: you know, for a while, I'm just thinking Shane Steichen's

966
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 6: kind of like cruise in the air. Well, now I

967
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 6: think it's really you look at Rabel and the turnaround there.

968
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 6: They've got some interesting candidates there. I want to stay

969
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 6: along with the Patriots for a second. They are currently

970
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 6: the number three seed. The other teams that involved Indy

971
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 6: has remaining that game at Kansas City, and they also

972
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 6: have to go to a very good Seattle team. Denver

973
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 6: obviously has the two games versus the Chiefs. They have

974
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 6: the Packers at home, and then they have the Chargers

975
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 6: at home. It's sitting up. Depending on especially what happens

976
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 6: with the Chiefs and the Broncos this week, the AFC

977
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 6: could be a thrilling finish buying four playoff position because

978
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 6: there's a lot of teams with really good records. All right,

979
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 6: let me get back on track Week eleven. I know

980
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 6: you guys will have covered.

981
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: Let me say this, New England has by far the

982
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: easiest schedule left of anybody on the earth. They have

983
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: and I like Wafford, but they have the Wafford Terriers

984
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: and they have cal Poly San Lui Obispo the last

985
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: two weeks of the year.

986
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 5: I think that'll help them possibly get the one seed.

987
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 6: That's just wild to me. They could be the ones.

988
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 6: So all right, so the Chiefs Broncos game is setting

989
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: up to be the most significant game between the two

990
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 6: franchises in years, right. I mean, the Broncos just haven't

991
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 6: been able to put it together. Now they're eight and two.

992
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 6: You've got the Chiefs coming off the bye. It's sort

993
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 6: of it's the most significant game for the Chiefs in

994
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 6: a regular season game that feels like in eons because

995
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 6: last year they won all the close games. You're five

996
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 6: and four, you beat Denver, everything's in front of you.

997
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 6: If you lose to Denver this week, suddenly the season

998
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 6: has a different shape. Look, you could still be the wildcard.

999
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 6: They've shown they can be the wildcard, and then you'll

1000
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 6: still go to the super Bowl. What's the feeling in

1001
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 6: Kansas City, within the building, within the organized about the

1002
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 6: challenge this week of playing this elite defense. Just give

1003
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 6: me a sense of the vibe around the building about

1004
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 6: the thoughts about playing the Broncos this week.

1005
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: Well, one thing that I'd say is I think there's

1006
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: a lot out there about how this is like the

1007
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: most important regular season game for the Chiefs in a while.

1008
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: I want to push back on that a little bit

1009
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: because I think it's easy to look at the last

1010
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: several years and see the Super Bowls and the AFC

1011
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: Championships and think that the Chiefs have just cruised to

1012
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: all these AFC West titles. But I think about twenty

1013
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: twenty three, when the Chiefs were nine to six at

1014
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: one point, there was a chance the Chiefs could miss

1015
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs. In twenty twenty three, people forget about that.

1016
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: I remember the game against the Bengals here at home

1017
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: against the Jake Browning led Bengals, and it felt like

1018
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 2: a playoff game. That game was intense, and the Bengals

1019
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: are playing really good football defensively Browning was playing well

1020
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: like that felt like a playoff game, and I remember

1021
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 2: the intensity going into that game was through the roof.

1022
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: And we don't look back on that now as a

1023
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: big game in Chief's history or anything, but at the time,

1024
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: it felt like a big game. In the regular season.

1025
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: Of course, the Chiefs go on to win the Super Bowl.

1026
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: I think about twenty twenty one, which the season has

1027
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: felt a lot like the twenty twenty one season so far,

1028
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: but the Chiefs start three to four. I remember a

1029
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: Sunday night football game in Vegas that year where if

1030
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: the Chiefs lose that game, they would have been in

1031
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: last place in the division. If they won it, they

1032
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: would be in first place in the division. That's how close.

1033
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: Everything was.

1034
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: Huge game going into it, and the Raiders had all

1035
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: this momentum. I think the Chiefs went three and out

1036
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: on their first possession in that game, and everyone's freaking out,

1037
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 2: going crazy, thinking the Chiefs demise is here. Well, of course,

1038
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: the Chiefs win that game going to host the AFC

1039
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: title game that year. So I think there has been

1040
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: these moments, these regular season games over the years that

1041
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: had kind of a similar intensity and the Chiefs took

1042
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: care of business. And the reason I bring all this

1043
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: up is because the culture here is not just one

1044
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: of we just cruised the AFC West titles.

1045
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 3: This is easy, Like.

1046
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: People aren't freaking out like this team has been in

1047
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: these moments before where there's big kind of flashpoint games

1048
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 2: where you know, the barbarians are at the gate, right,

1049
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: what do you do? And the Chiefs time and time

1050
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: again have found a way to win these games and

1051
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: we don't talk about them because they end up on

1052
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: the super Bowl and that's a much bigger story, right.

1053
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 2: So anyway, that's what i'd say. I think the narrative

1054
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: and the vibe in the building right now is one

1055
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 2: of being refreshed, recharged and ready to take care of business.

1056
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: All right.

1057
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: This is about the time of the week in a

1058
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: big game week where I start getting clips from Matt

1059
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: with Lord of the Rings on it, which I.

1060
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 3: Just think, yes, we're about that topic.

1061
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah we are Wednesday afternoon. Whatever you like about Mike Vrabel,

1062
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: you would love about Andy Reid. And here's why I

1063
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: answer you a question this way. Andy Reid is taught

1064
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: this whole team and it started in twenty thirteen. Bigger

1065
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: the opponent, better the opponent, Embrace the embrace it, embrace it,

1066
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: and attack it. That's not talking smack on Denver. We

1067
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: laid it out there. But this theme of this podcast

1068
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: has been, it's not I keep it getting asked in

1069
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: all these shows.

1070
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 5: Must win, must win, must win. No, it's not a

1071
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: must win.

1072
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: It's a NASCAR race and there's seven laps to go

1073
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 1: after this one, and so we could see engine failure

1074
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: and all kinds of stuff. It's critical, That's what we're

1075
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: saying in this It's crucial and that's the theme.

1076
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 5: But ain't the vibe.

1077
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: Here is he gets everybody to love these games because

1078
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: the bigger the challenge, the greater it is.

1079
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 5: And that's why we've been able to go to five

1080
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 5: Super Bowls in the last six years.

1081
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: And oh, I don't know, go to Buffalo and win,

1082
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: and go to dent or go to Baltimore and win

1083
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: and beat the San Francisco forty nine ers who were

1084
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: challenging the Bears, or that was the Eagles challenging the

1085
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: Bears sack record. So the mentality here is let's go

1086
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: not to talk smack, but that's just what we do.

1087
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 5: You sharpen the sword and go to battle.

1088
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 6: Let me be clear, gentlemen, to all those in the kingdom,

1089
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 6: I oppose these as conversation pieces. They're probably people.

1090
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 5: They know they know you're undercover.

1091
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 6: You can't just know that you've got raiders.

1092
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: If they look see this hologram, there's a Chiefs there,

1093
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: so we know we know here.

1094
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: Dude.

1095
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 6: I'm an Andy Reid guy through and through, so I

1096
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 6: don't care who they're playing when where. I always believe

1097
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 6: that he will have the game plan, he will have

1098
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 6: the team with the right mindset. So the bigger the moment,

1099
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 6: the more I trust in Andy. So just know that

1100
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 6: I'm posing this. There is zero doubt in my mind

1101
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 6: that he will have the Chiefs ready to go. All

1102
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 6: right to the other games coming up to the AFC

1103
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 6: West this week, the Chargers against this suddenly now kind

1104
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 6: of depleted Jags team. Another interesting trip though, right, I

1105
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 6: mean you got to go all the way across the country.

1106
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 6: Travis Hunter is out, which I think is a huge

1107
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 6: bummer that that whole story didn't really pan out the

1108
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 6: way that Jags hoped would be. But this is an

1109
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 6: interesting one for the Chargers. Right, you're coming off like

1110
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 6: a big, high profile game, you beat the Steelers. Now

1111
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 6: you go to the Jags and look, they've got to

1112
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 6: maintained pace. Right, even when the Chiefs win on Sunday, right,

1113
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 6: they'll be there. They need a win to stay at

1114
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 6: three losses and be right there with This strikes me

1115
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 6: as the kind of game in the past that the

1116
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 6: Chargers have found a way to lose, kind of like

1117
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 6: when they went to the Giants earlier this year and lost.

1118
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 6: Matt's always looking for ways to convince yourself of these things.

1119
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 6: I am somewhat convinced that the Chargers can blow this

1120
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 6: game and lose in Jagsonville.

1121
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Yeah, that'd be great. I would love if

1122
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: the Jags can win this game. One thing that I

1123
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: was looking into was, well, hey, maybe the Jags pass

1124
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: rush can get after Herbert because we talked about their

1125
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: tackle situation. Well, the Jags have the fewest sacks in

1126
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: the NFL, So I'm not sure that that's how it

1127
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: will go. Maybe it will, Maybe josh Heinz Allen will

1128
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: go crazy. The Jags are just a weird study and

1129
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: I can't really figure them out. You know, we had

1130
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: our game against them, which in retrospect is kind of

1131
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: inexplicable the way that it went. They played great football

1132
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: against us, and Mitch has this awesome stat or this

1133
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: at least concept that we've talked about about teams after

1134
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: they play the Chiefs and how they fare because they

1135
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: put so much time and energy and thought into our game.

1136
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 2: Give them credit, they beat us, right, but you can

1137
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: tell that maybe it's that game, maybe it's not. But

1138
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: they have not been the same team since that night, right,

1139
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: So can they do it? Of course they can. They

1140
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: have a lot of talent, and when they're playing good football,

1141
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: they're among the better teams in the NFL. But they're

1142
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: they've been so inconsistent this year. It's hard to know

1143
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: what exactly you're getting from the Jacks.

1144
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 5: They live rif takeaways.

1145
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: It's the only thing they've got if you look at

1146
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: all their we look at their report card. They're getting

1147
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: d's in chemistry and you know season math, Hey, god,

1148
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: they got an A and takeaways they have seventeen. But

1149
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: if they don't get them, I'm not sure there's enough

1150
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: gas here, but it depends on and the Chargers want

1151
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: to run the ball right now and they can't. They're

1152
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: just so McConkie's really good. He'll make big plays. And

1153
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: I guess since hurt so who knows, But I don't

1154
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: know if Jacksonville's got enough, and it is. It's a

1155
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: study go back to even to twenty two, twenty three,

1156
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: twenty four. Look at teams after they play the Chiefs,

1157
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: either the week after or the next two to three

1158
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: three weeks, and so much helium goes into our game.

1159
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: Not to be arrogant, but there's so much helium that

1160
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: goes into our game that they're they're out of breath

1161
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: in the for the next two or three weeks.

1162
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 5: And we haven't seen Jacksonville recovery yet.

1163
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna come back to that theme

1164
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 6: in my final thought because we're on the same wavelength.

1165
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 6: The final game involving an AMC West team is a

1166
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 6: game that I think the NFL wishes it could flex

1167
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 6: out of. That is the Cowboys taking on the Raiders,

1168
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 6: certainly not as sexy a game as maybe they'd hoped.

1169
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 6: That the Raiders overachieved and the Cowboys could put together

1170
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 6: a semblance of consistency. I keep saying that the Raiders

1171
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 6: are gonna win a game they're not supposed to. I'm

1172
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 6: just gonna stop saying that maybe the reversial happened. I mean,

1173
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 6: any thoughts. I mean, is this a game the Raiders

1174
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 6: can win? Or is the Cowboys will score too many points?

1175
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 6: Because the Raiders have showed an inability to put points

1176
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 6: on the board.

1177
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: I will talk myself into watching just about any football game.

1178
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: This game, I'll talk myself into watching because we see

1179
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: the cow Boys in a couple of weeks, so I

1180
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: am interested to see how they look, how they play

1181
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: against the Raiders. And whenever the Raiders are out there,

1182
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: I'm always curious to see what Brock Bauers can do.

1183
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: You know, getting back to our conversation about the Broncos

1184
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: Raiders game earlier. That was the craziest thing is Bowers

1185
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: had like two targets in that game. And I understand,

1186
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: like he's the main focus of the Denver defense, like

1187
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: they're going to try to take him away, but still

1188
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 2: your best player gets two targets Like just kind of

1189
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: bizarre to me. So I'm expecting Bowers to get like

1190
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 2: fifteen targets in this game against Dallas.

1191
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: I've got a folder made of the I put in

1192
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders game against the Broncos and the Charger the

1193
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: Chargers game last week, so I'll just pull that one

1194
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: out again because I think this is going to be.

1195
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 5: The same game.

1196
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I it feels like a two to

1197
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: one penalty kick win off aheader. I don't know, Yeah,

1198
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: I just the Cowboys. I'm like, Matt, We've got three

1199
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: games in twelve days and the Colts don't look now,

1200
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: but they get a bye this week. Great, and that's

1201
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: who we got coming in next week. Yeah, so we

1202
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: got two grinders here going later in the December. But

1203
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: this one's a grind. But one part of that grind

1204
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: is the Cowboys. The other thing, and I'm going to

1205
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: do a minute with Mitch on it next week, is

1206
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: we're playing even with the Cowboys and the Bills, you're

1207
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: looking at, we're playing probably the top six offensive lines

1208
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: here in the league, at least in that group, because

1209
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo's there, Dallas is there for sure, the group we're

1210
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: playing this week, and the Colts might be the number

1211
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: one offensive line in the league. So yeah, schedule makers

1212
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: appreciate it so much, but let's go all right.

1213
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 6: So when I was determining the game of the week,

1214
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 6: we've already discussed the Broncos the Jeeves, and there's your

1215
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 6: game of the week, so I had to pick a

1216
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 6: different game. You can make a pretty compelling case that

1217
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 6: the Rams Seahawks, right, I mean, the Seahawks have been

1218
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 6: much better than we expected. I think Sam Darnold going

1219
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 6: up against Matthew Stafford, I mean, it's got some juice

1220
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 6: to it. But I think Dan Campbell and the Lions

1221
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 6: taking on the off for Eagles is a game of

1222
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 6: sort of NFC juggernauts, and I think people have been

1223
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 6: clamoring to see these two play. I think everybody thought

1224
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 6: they were going to play in the NFC Championship Game

1225
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 6: last year, then the Commanders changed that. I want to

1226
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 6: see how these Lions look against the Eagles, because I

1227
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 6: do think in terms of physicality, terms of toughness, the

1228
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 6: way they go about their business, there are some striking similarities.

1229
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 6: I'm just really excited to see the game. There's something

1230
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 6: about Dan Campbell to just add something to every game. Sirianni, Well,

1231
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 6: he has been very successful, is not to me as

1232
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 6: likable as Dan Campbell, but there's something about the blue

1233
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 6: collar nature of the cities. I don't know this has

1234
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 6: been a game. When I saw the schedule come out,

1235
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 6: I thought a Sunday night game Eagles and Lions. Gentlemen,

1236
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 6: what's your take on the Sunday night game?

1237
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: You know, I think the Lions have had a season

1238
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: kind of similar to ours in a bunch of ways,

1239
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: where they start playing really well and everyone's kind of

1240
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: on board, and then they lose, and then it's kind

1241
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: of like, well, what's going on with the Lions? And

1242
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: then they start playing really well again and everyone gets

1243
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: back on board, and then they is. You know, I

1244
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: think the Lions are a really talented football team. They're

1245
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: getting healthier now, and I think they're going to go

1246
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: in and beat the Eagles. I really do. It'll be

1247
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: an interesting game. The Eagles have had this inexplicable season

1248
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 2: where they're they're winning all these games, but they're doing

1249
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: so and kind of like grind it out fashion.

1250
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: Speaking of not very.

1251
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: Four, Yeah, it kind of sounds like that, right, but

1252
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: they don't get criticized for it. The speaking of primetime

1253
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: games that aren't terribly entertaining, that Packers Eagles game was

1254
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: a true test of football fandom.

1255
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: I did watch the entire thing.

1256
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 6: I thought it was a little bit better than the

1257
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 6: Broncos and the Raiders. They were both ten to seven,

1258
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 6: both hard to watch, but I guess I at least

1259
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 6: felt like there was a higher level of overall competency

1260
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 6: in the Monday night game. But I agree with you

1261
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 6: was not an easy watch.

1262
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, when your kids come in with

1263
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: a D plus, you're going, well, it's not.

1264
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: A D kids, That's okay, Yeah, yeah, but you know

1265
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: that the Eagles, to their credit, they're figuring out ways

1266
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 2: to win these games. But I think has more juice

1267
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: than the Eagles do, and I'm interested to see if

1268
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: they can go in there and win that game. The

1269
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: rams Seahawks game is super interesting though, because you have

1270
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: two top five offenses and two top five defenses in

1271
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: the same game, and we're gonna learn a lot about

1272
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: those teams. Really interesting matchup, and of course it's a

1273
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: divisional game. I mean, the NFC West might be the

1274
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: best division of football this year. Just that'll be a

1275
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 2: fun game to watch for sure.

1276
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: If it is Dan Campbell against Nick Sirianni with pugel

1277
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: sticks like the Marine Corps. I'm gonna take Dan Campbell

1278
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: and give you three and a half points, okay, And

1279
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: we're not supposed to bet, so I'm not betting, but

1280
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm taking Dan Campbell if he's gonna bite both kneecaps

1281
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: off of Sirianni, and I know Sirianni.

1282
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 5: Okay.

1283
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: To me. One of the most the wildest stats going

1284
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: into Week eleven is the two teams that have the

1285
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: most three and out sorry in this league are the

1286
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: Eagles and the Broncos. Crazy, And I would win a

1287
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: lot of money if I went to the beach house

1288
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: and started betting people on that, because those aren't the

1289
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: two people are gonna mention. So the Eagles, and this

1290
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: is to mass point, they're just kind of winning on

1291
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: the you know, defending the power play.

1292
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 5: It seems like every week defense is good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're just in that same there's a lot

1294
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: of teams in that same discussion, but I just I

1295
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: feel like the Lions are getting their defensive swag back.

1296
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 5: Hutchinson stayed healthy.

1297
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: He's the He's the big lug nut of that wheel.

1298
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: So the Lions are gonna make another pusher.

1299
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 6: One final thought on that. We always talk about how

1300
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 6: he rose him into the deals. If Jalen Phillips plays

1301
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 6: the way he did on Monday, and hey, that third

1302
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 6: round pick is gonna look like a bargain. I mean,

1303
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 6: I really, he's just a rental. So you look, they'll

1304
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 6: get you know, they'll get a pick if he leaves,

1305
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 6: but you might resign it if that guy is healthy.

1306
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,479
Speaker 6: He is a beast. I don't think I've ever spent

1307
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 6: that much time focused on one guy, but he changed

1308
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 6: the look of that defensive front up there. I mean,

1309
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 6: he is a he is a physical specimen, all right.

1310
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 6: Want to move on to the final thought and involve

1311
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 6: something you referred to earlier. So when you think about

1312
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 6: pass Super Bowl champions, you don't usually think of them

1313
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 6: having a game or two in a season that you think, wow,

1314
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 6: like their level of play is just poor. I if

1315
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 6: I'm a Buffalo Bills fan after watching they play against

1316
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,959
Speaker 6: the Dolphins, I've got real concern there because I feel

1317
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 6: like the best teams find ways to win even when

1318
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 6: they don't play well. To me, it wasn't just the

1319
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 6: Buffle didn't play well. Did you look at their sideline?

1320
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 6: Did you look at the lack of energy. It just

1321
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 6: didn't look like a team that was fully engaged. And

1322
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 6: I don't normally think of teams going on to great

1323
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 6: success in the postseason. So when I'm saying is you

1324
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 6: can't focus all on the Chiefs and bring it all

1325
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 6: and play this great game and beat one of the

1326
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 6: you know that beat a dynasty and then show up

1327
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 6: in Miami and lose thirty to thirteen. It goes back

1328
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 6: to what we talked about in a couple episodes ago.

1329
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 6: I realized it's any given Sunday, anything can happen. But

1330
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 6: amongst the elite teams, you don't offen and see a

1331
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 6: team not just get I can take the score. It's

1332
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 6: the way it looked. The eye test was terrible for

1333
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 6: the Bills. Josh Allen certainly did not look like an MVP.

1334
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 6: If anybody brings him up as an MVP candidate, I'm

1335
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 6: just gonna remind them of this game against the Dolphins.

1336
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 6: Does that game at all change your guys's view on

1337
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 6: what the Bills look like as a contender in the AFC?

1338
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: Well, I think in terms of their overall outlook, maybe sure.

1339
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: I mean that's a game that they shouldn't have lost,

1340
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: and they didn't look very good in terms of when

1341
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: they play US. It's pretty clear that they have built

1342
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: their team to play US. And you know, I think

1343
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: if we played the Bills ten times, I think each

1344
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,959
Speaker 2: team wins five times. I think it's pretty incredible about

1345
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: the game against them a couple weeks ago is that

1346
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: despite the Chiefs not playing very well on either side

1347
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: of the ball, we still had the ball with five

1348
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: minutes to go down a touchdown, So it was right

1349
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 2: there for the Chiefs. I'm always gonna think that Buffalo

1350
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: will rise to the occasion in the matchups against US,

1351
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: but that was surprising to see them lose that game

1352
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: to Miami. And yeah, I mean, they didn't really play

1353
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: well in any facet.

1354
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 5: The same helium Jacksonville had.

1355
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: They just sent up the Eastern seaboard and that showed

1356
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: up as a ups delivery for Buffalo and then boom,

1357
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: they're out of helium. I honestly thought, and this is

1358
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: not to cast dispersions on Buffalo. They're trying to change

1359
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: the way they're doing things. If they don't win a

1360
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: certain way, all there's just they've got to control the

1361
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. They've got a control time of possession.

1362
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: They've got to get enough takeaways. This isn't Stefan Diggs

1363
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: running seven routes. This is a different team. They're living

1364
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: off James Cook and they're living off Josh Allen and

1365
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: his passer rating at the deep third is not very

1366
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: good unless it's against US, and he was awesome against

1367
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: US at twenty three or twenty six. And give the

1368
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: dude credit. Fireball California, I love it, FFA. But this team,

1369
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: the Buffalo team, now faces a new pressure of New

1370
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: England rightning to push away from them. Yeah, somebody's not

1371
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs in the AFC, probably going

1372
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: to be Jacksonville, but somebody's not gonna make it.

1373
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 5: And Buffalo's got to win a certain way.

1374
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: That the way they're constructed this year, and they've got

1375
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: to get pressure with those outside guys if and that's

1376
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: how they got us, truthfully.

1377
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 5: But I mean, those guys had the.

1378
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: Game their lives. Joy Bosa was great, Michael Hoyt before

1379
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: he got injured was great.

1380
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Speaker 6: Blah blah blah.

1381
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: But they've got to win a certain way. Not they're

1382
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: in peril of losing to anybody any week.

1383
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 6: All Right, gentlemen, Matt, you got a final thought for.

1384
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 4: Us this week?

1385
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Speaker 3: I do.

1386
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: So I've been doing this whole like family and football

1387
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: thing lately just by coincidence. You know, my parents are

1388
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: at the Bills game a couple of weeks ago, had

1389
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: an amazing time despite the result, like that was a

1390
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 2: huge bummer, but otherwise, like they had so much fun

1391
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,959
Speaker 2: being in the front row, you know, in Buffalo ritting

1392
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: on the Chiefs and kind of a similar deal this week.

1393
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 2: So those that have been listening to DTK for a

1394
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: long time know that my wife comes from a family

1395
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: of Broncos fans. She has since obviously converted, but her dad,

1396
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: her mom maybe to a lesser extent her mom, but

1397
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: her dad and definitely her brother are still big time

1398
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: Broncos fans.

1399
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Speaker 1: Right.

1400
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: Well, they circled this game quite a while ago, before

1401
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: we even knew the Broncos were going to be this competitive,

1402
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 2: and said, Ellie, would you want to come out to

1403
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: the game and watch the game in the stands. So

1404
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: we planned on that and it's happening. So Ellie is

1405
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: going to this game in Chiefs gear with her Bronco family,

1406
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: and I'm just I won't actually be obviously in the

1407
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: crowd with them going to try to go say hi beforehand.

1408
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: But I do think there will be a moment when

1409
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: this game's going on, and you know, Mahomes makes a

1410
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: big play or something, and my father in law and

1411
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: his Broncos gear is going to look at his daughter

1412
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: that previously had no interest in going to NFL games,

1413
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: is with him at this Chiefs Broncos game wearing Chiefs gear,

1414
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: cheering on the Chiefs, and that brings me joy. So anyway,

1415
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: the good people of Denver, please be nice to my wife.

1416
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 2: She will be in chief S gear in the stands,

1417
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,959
Speaker 2: and hopefully she is the happy one leaving the game

1418
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: and not my in loss.

1419
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 5: That's my final thought. All It's scripture.

1420
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: A man should leave his mother and his father and

1421
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: they two shall become one.

1422
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 5: So sorry, Ellie, you left all that behind.

1423
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: Matt's hoping to get a little money out of the deal,

1424
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: and I got a feeling that we're losing some equity there.

1425
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 5: So this is just just a tough deal for this guy.

1426
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 6: I love it. What do you got for me? Mitch?

1427
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 6: You have a final thought.

1428
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: Only that I need you to pan up a bit

1429
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: because you're at North Africa and if we pan up.

1430
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: We're going to find Germany. What's been crazy about the

1431
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: chief Kingdom Show? And I've told Matt this, I'm going

1432
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: to start ripping off names next week. We have had

1433
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: Germans that come to the home games and stay for

1434
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom Show. We've had at least sixteen over

1435
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: the past like three weeks when we've had home games.

1436
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: It's amazing. The whole world's Team German thing is real.

1437
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: These fans come here for a pilgrimage and they want

1438
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: to stay. They want to soak in everything they can

1439
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs before they go home.

1440
01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 5: It's been kind of fun.

1441
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 6: That is awesome. I did five years of NFL Europe

1442
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 6: and by far the games in Germany was the best

1443
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 6: experience I had. Frankfurt was incredible, the Ryan Fire played

1444
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 6: in ducend Or some incredible moments. And then my very

1445
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 6: last thought, Mitch, I know you're one of the busiest

1446
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 6: guys on the planet, and you also, to me are

1447
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 6: one of the funniest guys on the planet. But today

1448
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 6: you're comedic timing better than ever. If you can find

1449
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 6: an open mic night tonight, I think that night. I

1450
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 6: think it's your night, Mitch. It's it's it's just going today.

1451
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 6: I'm feeling the love, gentlemen. Always a pleasure. Let's go

1452
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 6: Chiefs take down the Broncos. And that's going to do

1453
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 6: it for out West this week.

1454
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: Thanks to Ari, it keeps uh. He never sleeps. He

1455
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: just is always very vigilant about the AFC West. I

1456
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: want to close out this way because this uh talking

1457
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: about the critical nature of this game, not a must win,

1458
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: but a critical game. Is I went back during the

1459
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: bye week and looked at something and I gotta give

1460
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: Dan and Hughes, my partner on the Chief Radio network,

1461
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: credit about this because he he opened up the question.

1462
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: Then it sends me down a rabbit hole. This is

1463
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 1: the life you and I live. Hey, what about blah blah?

1464
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: You don't you go Okay, I'm going to spend the

1465
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: next hours to look at it. The double dip. I

1466
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: call it the double dip, and it's the wrap around.

1467
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: It's getting the chance to have the last possession of

1468
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: the first half, in the first possession of the third quarter,

1469
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: first possession of second half. The Chiefs this year five

1470
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: and four nine games, they have won the toss seven

1471
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: times in those nine games because Danen goes well I

1472
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: think we were better last year in the double dip.

1473
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at it. No, we weren't.

1474
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: We won the toss ten times, lost it ten times.

1475
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: So it really wasn't any direct thing to differentiate of

1476
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: what the gut the Chiefs to fifteen and two by

1477
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: being great in double dips this year, it means everything

1478
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: everything hear me out on this. There have been five

1479
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: times and the five wins, I should say, so that's

1480
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: ten occasions that you've got the double dip. I can

1481
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: either score at the end of the second quarter the

1482
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: start of the third. In the five wins, the Chiefs

1483
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: have seven touchdowns and one field goal. That's eight of

1484
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: the ten. In the three losses that would be six

1485
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: zero touchdowns, one field goal and four to three and outs.

1486
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 4: Wow.

1487
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: So it is sometimes you do a hypothesis and you

1488
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: do the research and go, mamp, this doesn't work. This

1489
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 1: one is exactly that the Chiefs when they win are

1490
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: maximizing those critical drives, especially in the double dip, and

1491
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: when they're losing they're not. It's been pretty.

1492
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: Much that black and white, and it's not like in

1493
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: those games that they've lost. It's not like they come

1494
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: out of halftime and drive down and eventually they drive sputters.

1495
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: It's the three and outs. And that's what's interesting is

1496
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have one of the lower three and out

1497
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: percentages in the NFL. The Chiefs really don't go three

1498
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 2: and out often. But we've talked about on the franchise

1499
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago about how like momentum is real

1500
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 2: in the NFL, Well, momentum is real when you come

1501
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: out of halftime, you need to go down and score

1502
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: some points to either get back into it or to

1503
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: put it away in the case of Jacksonville, and you

1504
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 2: go three and out and you punk the ball back

1505
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: to the other team and they have all the momentum

1506
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: in the world. The Jacksonville game is such a great

1507
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: example of this because the Chiefs had that game like

1508
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: it felt like the Chiefs were up by a bunch

1509
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 2: and they come out of halftime I think, still up

1510
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: a touchdown, trying to kind of just create that distance,

1511
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: and they go three and out and punt the ball

1512
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: at Jacksonville and the rest is history. Kind of the

1513
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: same deal in Buffalo, where an opportunity to go down

1514
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: there and get back into it and you're not able

1515
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 2: to we have to wait until the fourth quarter to

1516
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 2: really get things rolling. The Chiefs have been so good

1517
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 2: offensively generally speaking, this year, and there's a few situational

1518
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: things in the games that they've lost that are so

1519
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: uncharacteristic that have led to those losses. I'm hopeful that

1520
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: with a full week kind of self scout to get

1521
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 2: recharged once again, to get healthy, they can go out

1522
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: there and be the offense we know they can be,

1523
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: and if they win the toss, it's hopefully sandwiched halftime

1524
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: with a couple of touchdowns.

1525
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: It may be obvious to think, well, the last two

1526
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: minutes of a game that's so critical. What may not

1527
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: be as obvious is there are critical junctures at other

1528
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: parts of the game. Last drive of the second quarter,

1529
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: first drive of the third, especially if you get both

1530
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: of those possessions. You and I don't play Madden, but

1531
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: we play college football. When you play Madden or college football,

1532
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: it comes to life because you're going, I get the

1533
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 1: ball right back, so.

1534
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: You need it when you're in New Mexico State playing

1535
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 2: Georgia on the road big time.

1536
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Manhattan Project. The point here is critical game.

1537
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: It'll be full of critical moments both obvious and not

1538
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: so obvious.