WEBVTT - Training Camp-Cast 8/11: Joint practice breakdown, Maye starts hot, Pop still popping

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<v Speaker 1>The Patriots and Colts got after it today for joint practices,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a lot going on. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to break it all down for you. Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everybody to the Patriots Camp cast presented by New Balance.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, the Patriots and Colts were out there, guys

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<v Speaker 1>for joint practice today. A lot going on both fields,

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<v Speaker 1>coming fast and furious, Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>On a swivel, lots of watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I thought there was some good work really

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<v Speaker 2>all around. I you know, I always think back, I

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<v Speaker 2>joked when we did our PU you know podcast earlier

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<v Speaker 2>during the practice that you know, I base everything off

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<v Speaker 2>of that Philadelphia Eagles one here in Jillette Stadium where

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh my god, we're in trouble. Nothing

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<v Speaker 2>like that. You know. There was some periods of time

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<v Speaker 2>that I thought the Patriots looked really good. Thought Drake

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<v Speaker 2>May got settled in, uh, you know, for some periods.

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<v Speaker 2>And there were other times I thought, quite frankly, you

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<v Speaker 2>got a little sloppy with the ball. I thought his

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<v Speaker 2>mechanics maybe got away from him, his little casual defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say similar. I thought there was some open receivers,

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<v Speaker 2>but I thought they were pretty physical upfront. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think they allowed themselves to get gashed a lot, and

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<v Speaker 2>with Jonathan Taylor he did increase them a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Dangerous guy. But overall I thought it was pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Even as he is known to do. I mean overall,

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<v Speaker 1>though Drake may stick on that side, it's pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>start for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the explosiveness of the passing game was there.

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<v Speaker 3>He made a handful of downfield completions. Maybe not consistent

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<v Speaker 3>every single throw like Paul was talking about, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>really nice go ball to Romeo Dobbs along the sideline,

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<v Speaker 3>couple of play action shots to the tight ends, Henry

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<v Speaker 3>ardan aj Brown down the sideline for another one. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was that big play may stuff that we're so

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<v Speaker 3>used to seeing. But the Colts got the last left.

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<v Speaker 3>They got the explanation point there starting offense, and Daniel

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<v Speaker 3>Jones drove right down and I'm sure we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler Warren here in a second and scored. And the

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<v Speaker 3>Patriots ended with an interception. So I know everybody's going

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<v Speaker 3>to declare a winner of practice and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>these wrap ups, I guess the Colts got the last

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<v Speaker 3>laugh there at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a few names to throw you guys. I thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>to know Pop Douglas continuing his really solid camp, had

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of catches, including down at that last team period.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're seeing Eli Raridan continue just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not a ton of volume, but one's two's popping up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit for him. And then had a part

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<v Speaker 1>of probably the play of the day Tommy Devido again

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<v Speaker 1>downfield to Kyle Williams, who had a really nice to another.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yes, I mean I would agree with all of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you pointed out. I would throw Romeo

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<v Speaker 2>Dobbs in there. The play that Evan referenced to me

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<v Speaker 2>was vintage Dobbs. He's just, you know, kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>fade down the sideline, down the field, effortless. The hands

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<v Speaker 2>are so strong. You put it on him and he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to catch it. He doesn't need a ton of separation.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a little on that play, But I think

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<v Speaker 2>that he's starting to stack days now. We're starting to

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<v Speaker 2>see the guy from Green Bay on a more consistent basis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree. He shook a Colt's defensive back in

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<v Speaker 3>the end zone during the red zone work as well

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<v Speaker 3>and scored there. I think two days in a row,

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<v Speaker 3>Romeo Dobbs looks more comfortable, looks like Drake may understanding

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<v Speaker 3>the routes that he wants to be running and where

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<v Speaker 3>he wants to be targeted on the field. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>the goball is just a great example. The Colts loaded

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<v Speaker 3>up with pressure on the line of scrimmage, showed a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of pressure. They had Henry and Ramandre in the

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<v Speaker 3>backfield together to pick up the pressure, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>was just go routes on the outside and just take

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<v Speaker 3>your pick with no safety a deep and he hit

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<v Speaker 3>Dobbs on the sideline. So some good answers to pressure,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, take your shots when you get that cover

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<v Speaker 3>zero look. And Dobbs just been better and better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, More did some good things today too as well.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of catches for him in the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's blitz beaters, you know, and that's something we've been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about all summer. You know, they can't they still

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<v Speaker 2>seem like they're struggling with some of those overload blitzes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's the best way to make teams stop doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then on the defensive side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the headline We didn't see Christian Gonzalez today.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, we're not sure exactly did land Hard yesterday? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>after that contested catch in the end zone. Bite Dobbs

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<v Speaker 1>maybe an ankle injury, we don't know. We know his

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<v Speaker 1>contract is up in the air, but certainly without him.

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<v Speaker 1>Carlton Davis was back, but he didn't participate. Felt like

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots defensive they were down the depth chart a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. They were having some.

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<v Speaker 2>Try It was a funny day, right, It was the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, none of the Patriots, I mean, Marcus Jones

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<v Speaker 2>really was the only corner that you would expect to

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<v Speaker 2>see out there regularly for the Patriots, and virtually none

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<v Speaker 2>of the receivers for the Colts other than Tyler Warren,

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<v Speaker 2>who was a tight end. And I thought, if we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to compare backups here, I thought the Colts backups

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<v Speaker 2>got the better of the Patriots backups. They were opened consistently.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say it was kind of a wash

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<v Speaker 3>because Josh Downs did practice against Marcus Jones, so you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of washed that one out. And that was backup

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<v Speaker 3>receivers against backup corners.

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<v Speaker 2>On the outside.

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<v Speaker 3>I would just highlight Warren. We kind of knew this

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<v Speaker 3>was coming deuced because last summer it was TJ. Hockinson

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<v Speaker 3>in Minnesota doing the same thing to the Patriots defense.

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<v Speaker 3>That two minute drill by Daniel Jones. All three plays

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<v Speaker 3>to get them down there on the goal line. We're

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<v Speaker 3>all Tyler Warren, you know, over the ball wheel route

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<v Speaker 3>down the sideline, and he was open consistently and then

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<v Speaker 3>down you know, got the actual touchdown. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>covering tight ends and this scheme and this defense, I

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<v Speaker 3>still feel like it's a little little bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>enigma of how exactly they want to plan for guys

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<v Speaker 3>like Tyler Warren. You know, he's a rare breed, like

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<v Speaker 3>he's one of the best tight ends in football, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's still something you gotta worry.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike. I felt a little like you on the field

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<v Speaker 2>after practice. You know, Tyler Warren was probably about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>feet away from me, and I think I had Derek

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<v Speaker 2>Henry vibes from you. That dude is big.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah he's a specimen. But you know, no Gonzalez, no Davis,

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<v Speaker 3>no Christian Barmore up front for the Patriots defense. So

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<v Speaker 3>they were missing some key players on defense. The Cols

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have Alec Pierce, but the other receivers are out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's just talk about that last two minute drive

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<v Speaker 1>to for Drake, which I don't know what you saw.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little bit blocked by the pole there

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<v Speaker 1>as he launched up that final pass, but he did

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<v Speaker 1>throw an interception to close out that period.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it looked like again they showed pressure inside and

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<v Speaker 3>someone on the interior I couldn't tell exactly who, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was in the inside got immediate pressure and kind

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<v Speaker 3>of rocked them back off of his spot. And then

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<v Speaker 3>he tried to go to his right and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>reload and reset and throw the ball. I thought he

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<v Speaker 3>had Douglas, but it was going to be a tight window,

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<v Speaker 3>like he was gonna have to really fit it over

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<v Speaker 3>the safety. But because he kind of threw off platform

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, he didn't have enough on the ball

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<v Speaker 3>and Cambine them ended up picking it off. So probably

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<v Speaker 3>one he said it after practice that he thinks it

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<v Speaker 3>was second down. Probably when you throw out the back

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<v Speaker 3>of the end zone and live to play another place.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm looking back because I took note of his explanation.

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<v Speaker 2>He sort of made it out to be kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a desperation play. There was twenty four seconds left. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was second and thirteen, so it wasn't quite you know,

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<v Speaker 2>do or die, And I just think it was a

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<v Speaker 2>bad throw. I mean, he under the rule. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>Douglas was open. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've done enough of these joint practices

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<v Speaker 1>where if you don't get lost in the details, it's up,

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<v Speaker 1>it's down. It's just it's just really good work for

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<v Speaker 1>these guys to go against another team, to go against

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<v Speaker 1>another scheme. There were some ups and downs for both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the ball, but overall, I think they go

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<v Speaker 1>back there with a lot of film to break down

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet both coaching staffs are pretty pleased with what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>There wasn't really a ton of you know, John back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth. It was a little here and there, but

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<v Speaker 2>not a ton. I thought they got good reps for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was just competitive, Like I thought, both sides

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<v Speaker 3>kind of traded punches, not literally figuratively, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty clean. Like Paul mentioned off the top that Eagles

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<v Speaker 3>joint practice was so one sided all over the field, offense, defense, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>this one felt a lot more like the one we

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<v Speaker 3>were in Minnesota last year. Do you swear it was like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the Vikings made some plays, the Patriots made some plays,

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<v Speaker 3>the Colts made some place this here today. But I thought, overall,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said at the beginning, I thought Drake May

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<v Speaker 3>was really good until the pick at the end, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and that kind of puts a sour note on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right. Well, Mike Frebel also said, we probably

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<v Speaker 1>won't see Drake May on Thursday night against these Colts,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, first preseason game of the season getting underway,

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to tune into the Patriots pregame show with

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<v Speaker 1>Paul On myself and a new cast that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>We're excited to introduce everybody to that new cast we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see on Thursday night.