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Speaker 1: Welcome into part two of the podcast with Nick Right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw this out because you and I

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Speaker 3: Whatever you do. You go viral man. The the the

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Speaker 3: I know. Well, it's just you're just old, white and rich,

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Speaker 3: I think today, That's what I was telling you before

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Speaker 1: Of all, whenever anybody in any situation in life is

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Speaker 1: quick cut to the chase, get me the contract. So

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Speaker 1: you know they're they're the Conservatives are trying to Vice

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Speaker 1: baseball managers. They don't win many games. They can lose

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Speaker 3: the ticket after he made fun of Biden for dropping out, Like, man,

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Speaker 3: quick turnaround. As far as the odds now, we're a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, so some of the best poker players in

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And I told him in regards to this,

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Speaker 1: I said, I have to trust the IOC. They have

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Speaker 1: medical boards. I said, these governing bodies on these incredibly

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Speaker 1: difficult situations. It's not like the same decision you had

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Speaker 1: deciding where to put the restrooms in a stadium, Like

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Speaker 1: it's not. They literally spent hours, days, weeks knowing this

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Speaker 1: would be difficult, and at some point success matters. Fauci's

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Speaker 1: history matters. Sick Mark Cuban successful, he knows more than

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Speaker 1: you and me on business, like the Olympic Committee didn't

436
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Speaker 1: just haphazard least, Hey, what do you think let's flip

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Speaker 1: a coin.

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Speaker 3: Well, also, here's the other thing, And this is where

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00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 3: I'm super skeptical. If you were to be like Nick,

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Speaker 3: what do you know more than the average person about?

441
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Speaker 3: And what are you nearly an expert in? Be like, Okay,

442
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: it's a narrow that's a narrow thing, but I have things.

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Speaker 3: I certainly am almost an expert in broadcasting just because

444
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Speaker 3: I've done it my whole career. I'm I think i'm,

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Speaker 3: you know, almost an expert, if not an expert in

446
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 3: sports history and you know, data and information and I

447
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: oddly I am not an expert, but I know way

448
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Speaker 3: more than the average person about American history, most notably

449
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Speaker 3: from the beginning of the Civil War to the passage

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Speaker 3: of the Civil Rights Act because that one hundred years,

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Speaker 3: I've really studied other stuff, you know, I just know

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Speaker 3: what I know. Folks that somehow on every hot button

453
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Speaker 3: issue have it clocked like, oh, you're full of shit,

454
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Speaker 3: Like there's no chance you have the informed opinion on

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Speaker 3: the origin of COVID, how vaccines are made, chromosoonal issues

456
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Speaker 3: in regards to transgenderism. Those three topics have nothing to

457
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Speaker 3: do with each other. You got them all down, Like,

458
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: that's a very unique set of skills you're dealing with here.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, you also seem to, you know,

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Speaker 3: dabble when necessary in you know the best ways to

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Speaker 3: put down social unrest within a city if there's a riot.

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Speaker 3: You know that one who the next vice president of

463
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Speaker 3: the United States should be picked based on electoral maps?

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Speaker 3: You know that one. Like you're all phony experts, you're

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Speaker 3: all you all are just so coughing. You know this.

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan couldn't hit a baseball, and he's arguably the

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Speaker 1: best athlete in NBA history. I mean couldn't hit a baseball.

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss tried to play basketball, so did Roy Jones.

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Speaker 3: Guys, oh, I left one out. Sorry, I left one out.

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Speaker 3: By the way, in the middle of those other things,

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Speaker 3: you became a legit expert on Eastern European wars and

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Speaker 3: the best way to litigate those like I don't. I

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Speaker 3: I don't believe you. I just don't.

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Speaker 4: What I believe is you know the way you want

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Speaker 4: the world to be, and you will pretend you have

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Speaker 4: the expertise to give yourself the authority on how it

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Speaker 4: should be.

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Speaker 1: Well, I told you, I've told you there's an explosion.

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Speaker 1: This will take a few minutes. But there's been an

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Speaker 1: explosion in conspiracy theories over the last ten years. And

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Speaker 1: it's actually very explainable. I mean, there was always the

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Speaker 1: occasional conspiracy theory. It is now an epidemic. Why because

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists need an explanation for all the cultural changes.

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Speaker 1: We've had more cultural changes due to the technology that

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Speaker 1: is in front of us than ever before. And people

486
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Speaker 1: studies have shown that are conspiracy theorists tend to need answers.

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Speaker 1: They're not as culturally irrelevant, they're not as socioeconomically relevant,

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Speaker 1: they're not as popular as they think they deserve, and

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Speaker 1: so they need answers. So they say, well, this is

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Speaker 1: why this is happening. It's rigged, not even elections. Just

491
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Speaker 1: so what you're finding, there's an explosion of conspiracy theories

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Speaker 1: and they're by people that want simple answers that things

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Speaker 1: changed and they can't explain it. And I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: doing studies on conspiracy theories. Why are they exploding? And

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Speaker 1: it's because tech has I mean, good God, in my business.

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Speaker 1: In the last three years, the whole fucking thing has

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Speaker 1: turned upside down. My whole business, I mean, podcasts didn't exist.

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Speaker 1: Now I own a company. You know that's a podcast company.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole world's changed. Radio and cable TV,

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Speaker 1: my favorites, they're regressing fast quickly. So again it's what

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Speaker 1: I have gotten to a point where the conspiracy theory

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Speaker 1: guy is it's like sports fan every time their team loses, says,

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Speaker 1: well it was rigged, or it's the officials. I just

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Speaker 1: don't have time, like I just I know people Joe Rogan,

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Speaker 1: but it's like Joe, not everything is a conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: Come on, well, but so listen, and again I'm fine

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Speaker 3: with healthy skepticism. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, with not taking you know,

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Speaker 3: just what the government tells you as gospel immediately as

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Speaker 3: they tell you. A great fine with I'm fine with

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Speaker 3: all of that. It's healthy, what right, what I'm what

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Speaker 3: I'm honestly and this is and then all you know,

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Speaker 3: this is finished the glass of wine, which means I'm

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Speaker 3: probably being maybe a little more casual with my thoughts

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Speaker 3: than I otherwise would be. What I'm not fine with

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Speaker 3: is people that I know to be dumb pretending they

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Speaker 3: have figured out super complicated issues. I'm just not okay

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Speaker 3: with it. And you mentioned and I'm not listen. I'm

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Speaker 3: not trying to shit talk Joe Rogan. But I saw,

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Speaker 3: you know, the clips from his last stand up, the

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Speaker 3: one that just came out, Yeah, and I'm like, man,

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Speaker 3: this is the guy. This guy is the one that

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Speaker 3: is shaping public opinion on really important things. The guy

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Speaker 3: that thought it was on the board that the State

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Speaker 3: of the Union was a taped speech because he hadn't

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Speaker 3: quite figured out the entire Congress, including two hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty Republicans, are there standing or booing or clapping. That

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Speaker 3: guy's a thought leader on everything. By the way, Joe

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Speaker 3: Rogan definitively thought leader and deserved on UFC stuff, how

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Speaker 3: to build a popular podcast, maybe number one draft pick

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Speaker 3: in the world on those two topics. You don't get

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Speaker 3: to be the thought leader on every topic. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I guess you do, but you're not going to be incredible.

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Speaker 3: And that's why that's why to bring it back to

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Speaker 3: where you started on this, I don't get there are

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Speaker 3: so many times people are like, you're afraid to talk

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Speaker 3: about and the answer is no, I, who have a

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Speaker 3: pretty big ego, have the humility to know, Man, there's

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Speaker 3: people that know a hell of a lot more about

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Speaker 3: this than me. I'm gonna let them figure it out,

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Speaker 3: at least the beginning parts of it before I form

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Speaker 3: my opinion. And it's so hard right now for folks

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Speaker 3: to a agree on what a trusted sources in order

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Speaker 3: to get the data to form an opinion. And it's

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Speaker 3: so hard for people to say, man, that one's hard,

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Speaker 3: that one's complicated. Nobody wants nothing. For some reason, nothing's

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Speaker 3: allowed to be complicated. Like I again, I will. I'm

548
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Speaker 3: gonna wade into really murky ground, but I'm going to

549
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 3: go ahead and say it, and I'm not afraid to.

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Speaker 3: I think basically all foreign wars are complicated, and I

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Speaker 3: haven't dedicated my life to figuring that out. I know

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Speaker 3: some people have. And I'm a really smart guy. I

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Speaker 3: don't know much about a lot of the rest of

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Speaker 3: the world. I know nothing about warfare. And the number

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Speaker 3: of people who just confidently say no, this is black

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Speaker 3: and white and simple, and here's how you fix it,

557
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Speaker 3: Like here's how you fix it, Like, man, if it

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Speaker 3: was that easily fixable, I think it had been fixed.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not acting like nothing is simple, But the

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Speaker 3: amount of people that just rush to this super complicated

561
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Speaker 3: issue that multiple PhDs are trying to figure out I

562
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Speaker 3: solved during my lunch break, I just don't buy. I

563
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Speaker 3: just don't trust those people. I just don't trust those people.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think they should be taken seriously.

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Speaker 1: I just watched the documentary on Iran Contra Oliver North

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Speaker 1: and it was so good and so fascinating and it

567
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: took years and years and years for it to get uncovered.

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Speaker 1: They still don't have all the answers.

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Speaker 3: But where was that? What was that on? What service?

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Speaker 3: Do you know?

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Speaker 1: I think it was? I think it was Netflix. I

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Speaker 1: mean I I basically in the football season, I don't

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Speaker 1: watch it, and then once the football season ends, I watch.

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Speaker 3: It every day.

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Speaker 1: Like my my viewing is documentary, yeah, Labor Day until

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and then I just go documentaries Netflix. That's

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Speaker 1: where I go and so and I. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I don't have time. I get one or two really

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Speaker 1: good books a year, maybe three, and I do it

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Speaker 1: when I fly. That's why I like to fly. It

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Speaker 1: forces me to sit down and you know, really dive

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Speaker 1: into a book. I'm gonna do it this week when

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Speaker 1: I fly to Chicago. But my my history books are

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Speaker 1: documentaries and i'll watch two, like like, i'll watch two

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Speaker 1: or three on a Saturday before I go out.

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Speaker 3: Yep, love it. By the way, that's the the I'll

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Speaker 3: give one. I'm gonna plug one one podcast that's not

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Speaker 3: mine or yours, but is a it's a popular ones,

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Speaker 3: but it's also there's a podcast called Hardcore History.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think the guy releases three a year. They're four

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Speaker 3: to five hours long. And when like I listened to

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Speaker 3: him when I play poker, and it's you know, it's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you ever wondered how Alexander the Great became Alexander the Great? Well,

595
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: here's four hours on his father for real, and that's

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Speaker 3: what it is. And it's this guy basically reading you

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Speaker 3: a book on you know, world hist but it's you know,

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00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: his podcast. But I'm the reason I thought of that

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Speaker 3: is I love that podcast. But during football season, I

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Speaker 3: can't even listen to that during football because during football

601
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: season there's so much watching a football, consuming football information,

602
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Speaker 3: doing all this stuff and then those other six months

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Speaker 3: a year, I can try to become a well rounded

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Speaker 3: human being. But you know, I only got a month

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Speaker 3: left because then football's coming again.

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Speaker 1: Remember when the Hollywood writers went on strike and every

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Speaker 1: that lasted. Remember that I had a theory that Netflix

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Speaker 1: knows when it gains and loses subscribers. The streaming services

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Speaker 1: all do. And one of the reasons that this this

610
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Speaker 1: strike was happening a big chunk of it during the

611
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Speaker 1: football season is they wanted to clean up all their

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Speaker 1: books because when the streaming services started, Remember, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you are trying. You are trying to buy who could

614
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Speaker 1: buy the globe first, who could win the global race

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Speaker 1: because we'd maxed out on domestic subscribers, and so all

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Speaker 1: of them blew through their budgets only none of them,

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Speaker 1: even Netflix for a long time didn't make any money.

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Speaker 1: And eventually they're like, okay, the subs are we've kind

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Speaker 1: of reached we've reached mass consumption. And they looked at

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Speaker 1: their books and said, shit, we've got to clean these up.

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Speaker 1: All of them did, outside of Netflix. They all had to.

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Speaker 1: So they decided to strike during the football season, saying

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Speaker 1: this is the time that nobody we lose subs. We're

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Speaker 1: not going to do We're not going to do heavy

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Speaker 1: production during this time. We're just going to rerun a

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Speaker 1: lot of our stuff because this is the time of

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Speaker 1: the year that the people to watch us don't like sports.

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Speaker 1: If you do, we just lose men. And then the

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Speaker 1: minute you get close to the end of the football season,

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Speaker 1: they got the strike figured out, They're like, okay, now

631
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Speaker 1: we have to create new stuff because here come the

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Speaker 1: men and women back into our streaming service. And that

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Speaker 1: was my you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I mean, like, I don't know if that's totally right,

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Speaker 3: totally wrong, or somewhere in between, but it's a good theory.

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Speaker 3: I whether it's right, by the way, I don't you know.

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Speaker 1: As I say, Joe Rogan has a few two committee

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. That's my big one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But so that's the thing. And this is where

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Speaker 3: we can leave it, because you and I both do

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Speaker 3: traffic in somewhat wacky ideas theories. Hey, this occurred to me.

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Speaker 3: But to go back to where we started, it's all

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Speaker 3: about the fluff of life. Like I don't I feel

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Speaker 3: entitled entitled the wrong word, but I'll use it. I

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Speaker 3: feel totally entitled to come on your show and be like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I just got a feeling Dak and Bill Belichick are

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Speaker 3: going to be both with the Giant next year. And

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Speaker 3: but and and if someone's like, what's that based on him? Like,

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Speaker 3: my gut, it makes sense. I know enough about Bill

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Speaker 3: and Dak and the salary cap that it's plausible, and

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Speaker 3: I just think it makes sense. But if you were

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Speaker 3: to really push me on it, like well, or have

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Speaker 3: you talked to anyone? No? Of course not. Have you

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Speaker 3: do you know Bill? No? Do you know Dak? No?

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Speaker 3: Do you know the mar family? No? I just it's

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Speaker 3: my gut feeling. So really I don't know anything, but

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Speaker 3: it makes sense and I and I truly think it's

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Speaker 3: gonna happen. What I wouldn't do is be like, here's

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Speaker 3: why the vaccine was a fraud. It's like, oh, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: Have you studied this?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Have you did you talk to anyone? No? Do you

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Speaker 3: do you know anything? No? I'm just guessing. It's just

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Speaker 3: my gut because that shit matters, like it's I think,

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Speaker 3: having wacky, fun gut feeling theories. It's nice things about

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Speaker 3: being about sport in sports. Yes, if I'm wrong the

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Speaker 3: day and then I then we should go. It's been

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Speaker 3: ninety minutes. The biggest day of my career was July fourth,

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, filling in for you because three minutes before

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Speaker 3: the show started, Kevin Durant picked the Warriors and ESPN

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Speaker 3: and ESPN two was in Wimbledon. I was filling in

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Speaker 3: for you because it's fourth of July and the biggest

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Speaker 3: story in the sports world. I'm the only person you know.

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Speaker 3: I'm We're the only network doing it, and I it's

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Speaker 3: my second time ever filling in for you, and I

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Speaker 3: still to this day, I think that day changed my

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Speaker 3: whole career. The Herd popped a huge number. I handled

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Speaker 3: it well and whatever. That day on the air, on

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Speaker 3: the air, biggest day of my career. I floated the

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Speaker 3: idea that what if this is just a double cross

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant was doing. This has been lost to the history,

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Speaker 3: which was because when because Durant couldn't sign yet, he

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Speaker 3: could just verbally commit, but in order to do that,

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Speaker 3: the Warriors had to let Harrison Barnes leave. And I

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Speaker 3: was like, what if Durant is actually planning on staying

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Speaker 3: with Oklahoma City but they just blew a three to

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Speaker 3: one lead to Golden State, and he wants to make

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Speaker 3: them worse, so he tells them I'm coming. They let

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Speaker 3: Harrison Barnes leave, and then on July seventh, when he

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Speaker 3: can sign, he does the ultimate villain move, which is like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying with the Thunder. To

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Speaker 3: this day, it's one of my favorite sports theories ever.

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Speaker 3: It was totally ridiculous. It had no chance. He wrote

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Speaker 3: an article for the What Have the Players Tribune, but

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Speaker 3: I really believed. I was like, I know, legally he

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Speaker 3: can do this. It would be an amazing thing. And

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Speaker 3: I talked about it on the air thirty minutes after

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Speaker 3: he signed with the Warriors. I was like, unless it

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Speaker 3: was just wacky, goofy stuff, fun, but it's sports, so

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Speaker 3: gives a ship like it's totally fine. That's why our

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Speaker 3: job's the best.

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Speaker 1: My most important day was this moment because I live

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Speaker 1: in the moment and this podcast.

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Speaker 3: What a jerk.

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Speaker 1: All right, buddy, this was great.

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Speaker 3: This is great. I'll talk to you later, see it

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Speaker 3: later the volume.

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