1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Dakota, and this is Carly, your favorite 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime host, and we've got some great stories coming up. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: But before that, we have a quick two minute break 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: from the sponsors to keep the show alive. 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 3: I told my husband his life was a fantasy and 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: he hasn't been the same. 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 4: That would throw most people off. 8 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 3: I twenty five female, had an argument with my husband 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: twenty four male, around four weeks ago. Now, my husband 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: is the best thing to ever happen to me. His 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: eyes are so bright and have that childlike innocence and spark. 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: He's very quirky and energetic and so funny, and I 13 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: love everything about him. He's really all anyone could ask for. 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from a few mail sixteen 15 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: thirty nine, And if you want to submit your own stories, 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay Storytime supreddit And I'm Angie, 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice. Goofily, 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: But we don't have all the answers. We just know 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: what we would do in these situations, So let us 20 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: know what you would do in the comments. But a 21 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, we had an argument about something 22 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: not so big and I said something personal to him, 23 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: which I won't say here. It happened in the heat 24 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: of the moment, and as soon as I said it, 25 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: I knew I shouldn't have instant guilt and shock hit me. 26 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 5: He didn't say anything back. 27 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: He just kept looking down and pretended to fidget with 28 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: something on the table, then walked out of the room 29 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: after a few seconds. He left the house and didn't 30 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: talk to me for about five days. He ignored my 31 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: texts as well and went back to his parents' house. 32 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: I made him food and took it to his parents' house. 33 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: I knocked on the door, hoping he would open it, 34 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: and he did. He just kind of stood there staring 35 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: at me, tearing up slightly. I've never seen. 36 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 5: Him this sad. 37 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: He just accepted the food by saying thank you, and 38 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 3: then closed the door. I called his mom to ask 39 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: how he was, and she was very kind to me. 40 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: She said that he's just busy with work and tired 41 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: and burnt out. That in time he'll be fine. Mind you, 42 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: he's never like this. We've had arguments before, but he's 43 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: always the one to get over it and not be 44 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: dramatic in his own words. I'm not trying to invalidate 45 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: his feelings. Those are his own words. I tried going 46 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: to his house again after a week. This time I 47 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: got some collectible Transformer figures because I know how much 48 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: he loves Transformers. That's really funny, Like, I'm sorry I 49 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: said that I hate you. I think you're ugly. Yeah, 50 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: they were a big part of his childhood. I got 51 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: him a few figures sound Wave and Megatron, which he 52 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: had said that he was trying to buy soon. I 53 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: knocked on the door again and he opened it. His 54 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: parents weren't home this time. I made sure to come 55 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: at a time that we would be alone. He again 56 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: just stood there in shock and stared at nothing, trying 57 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: to avoid all eye contact. When I offered him the gift, 58 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: he started to slightly tear up and said that he 59 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 3: couldn't accept them. I offered again, and he just fully 60 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: broke down. It hurt me so bad seeing him break 61 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: down in that moment. I probably felt more love for 62 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: him seeing him hurt like that. 63 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 5: That's really funny. 64 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 4: I know what you mean, but like, that's a really 65 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: funny thing. 66 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 5: That's a weird way to phrase that. 67 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I also cried, I'm on the verge of 68 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: tears just writing about it. I went to hug him 69 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: and close the door behind us. We sat on the 70 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: sofa and I tried to massage his head, shoulders, and back. 71 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: We both cried, and he kept apologizing and kept saying sorry, 72 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 3: it's not even a big deal, which hurt even more 73 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: because he was gaslating himself and ignoring his own needs 74 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: and validating his own feelings for the sake of trying not. 75 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 5: To burden me. 76 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 3: He's always positive and always looks up in life. He's 77 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: never cried in front of me before, but he's still 78 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 3: very emotionally present. Fast forward, He's been very distant ever 79 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: since I pushed him to come back to our house, 80 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 3: and I could see. 81 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 5: That he was depressed. 82 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: He was on the verge of tears all day, and 83 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: it broke me knowing how badly he wanted to cry 84 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 3: but couldn't trust me enough or didn't want to burden 85 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: me by showing that side of him. I read on 86 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: Reddit that a girl washed her boyfriend's hair in the 87 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: shower when she was trying to console him, so I 88 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: offered the same in the shower. He just broke down, 89 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: turned the other way and said that he needed time 90 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: to himself. I was crying myself just seeing him like that. 91 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: I actually despise myself just writing all of this. Ever since, 92 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: he's just been different. His eyes are empty, no quirkiness, 93 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: no jokes, no cheekiness. He's always making backhanded comments when 94 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: I try to talk to him, like sometimes it's the 95 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: closest ones that damage you the most. Almost sarcastically. Yeah, 96 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: that doesn't even seem that backhanded. That just seems like. 97 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 5: This is straight up what happened here. Jeez. I want 98 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: to know so much say I don't know. Please help. 99 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: I'm willing to do anything. I just don't want him 100 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 5: to be this sad. I know it's all my faults. 101 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: I just got caught up in the heat of the moment, 102 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: and I'll never forgive myself for it. If I could 103 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: please get some advice to get him to emotionally open 104 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: up to me once again, it would be really good. 105 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: Even if he expresses anger towards me, I'll be there 106 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: for him and endure it. He's just closed himself off, 107 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: which isn't a healthy way. 108 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 5: Of dealing with it. 109 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: He used to share so much more with me before, 110 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: and it's I wanted to keep what I said private 111 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: out of respect for my husband, but I'll tell you. 112 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 5: If it means getting better advice, yes would help. 113 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 6: Blot. 114 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm so scared, but I'm so excited. 115 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: Basically, my husband it's a child at heart because he 116 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: never got to be a child fully when he was young. 117 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: He reads comics, has collectibles, draws, et cetera, and it 118 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 3: is very playful. I said something along the lines of, 119 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: you need to actually grow up and live in reality 120 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: instead of a fantasy with your toys. I need attention 121 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: to something like that. And I know how bad it 122 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: is because my husband rarely opens up to anyone, but 123 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: he still shared that inner child with me, and I 124 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: destroyed that in him. 125 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 5: I'm the only one. 126 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: To blame for this, and there is an update, but 127 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: I was expecting it to be. 128 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 5: Way hard right though. 129 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: It was gonna be so bad, and I really am 130 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: confused on why of really deep apology can't fix this, 131 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: Like obviously a deep apology and time, but it's like 132 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: if you actually apologize and just explain where your head 133 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: was out when you said it, or like what you 134 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: were actually asking for in that moment, Like. 135 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And if he's at the point that is 136 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: he's like, I don't know, not associating, but he's like right, 137 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: eyes are just like staring out into the distance, and 138 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 3: like he's crying so much about it. There's I mean, okay, 139 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: if if he wasn't able to be a kid when 140 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: he was a kid, for sure, there's maybe there's just 141 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: some like heavy, heavy trauma attached to that or something. 142 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 5: But I don't know. But we do have an update here. 143 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: So it turned there was a deeper cause for my 144 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: husband's sadness, which I didn't know about. After reading some 145 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: comments and researching, I just pulled him into me when 146 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: we were lying down, gently grabbing his arm. He didn't resist. 147 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: I just said, come to me, come here, in a gentle, 148 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: calm and voice to try and soothe him. I held 149 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 3: him close to me for a while, and at first 150 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: he passed some backhanded comments like you deserve someone better 151 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: than me. You deserve someone that lives in the real world, 152 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: not in a fantasy, someone that's passed away inside, et cetera. 153 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 3: This made me tear up because I saw the pain 154 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: coming out in his words, but I didn't let go. 155 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: After some silence, I said sorry and explained to him 156 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: that I love who he is and his hobbies, and. 157 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: That I love that he has his own inner worlds 158 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 4: and inner child. 159 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: I told him I would never hate him because of it, 160 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: and said I love him to bits, and then I'll 161 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: never stop loving him or giving up on him. I 162 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: told him I got angry and said what I said 163 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: in the moment to try to hurt him because I 164 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: felt neglected the first time in our relationship. He was 165 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: incredibly rude and vile for me to say those things, 166 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: let alone think them. That is actually another thing too, 167 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: the fact that she was like, you need to pay 168 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 3: attention to me. 169 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: I wonder why she said. 170 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: It then, right, Like, because to me in my head, 171 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: I was just thinking, like, okay, you were feeling like 172 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: you weren't getting a lot of attention or like quality 173 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: times but with your person probably, Yeah, so can we 174 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: explain like that that's where it actually came from, right, 175 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: what was the real reasoning? Yeah, for those words, because like, 176 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: obviously you didn't mean it exactly the way that that 177 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: came out. 178 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 3: Sure, he started to really tear up and began taking 179 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: gasps of air because he was trying not to cry. 180 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: I just baled after seeing him this hurt, and he 181 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: did too. We both cried together, holding each other, and 182 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: I felt so relieved he was able to release all 183 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: the emotions and that he allowed me to be there 184 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: for him. I told him not to apologize, because I 185 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: want to see and know what he's actually feeling, and 186 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: that he doesn't have to hide anything from me that 187 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: I want to see the real hymn. I gently kept 188 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: cressing his face and hair. After some time crying, he 189 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: apologized profusely again for ignoring me. 190 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 5: I said, it's okay. 191 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: Arguments happen in relationships, and it's good that we worked 192 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: through this. I told him he it was right to 193 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: take space because I deserved it. He said he was 194 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: sorry he made a big deal out of my comment 195 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: and said my comment wasn't that deep and he shouldn't 196 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: have been bothered by it. I assured him it's fine 197 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: and just kept cressing his forehead and face. He told 198 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: me that life has just been so depressing and tough. 199 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: I asked why, because he's usually never liked this. He's 200 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 3: always the one to drag me out of depressive days. 201 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: He hesitated and stayed quiet. I asked what was wrong, 202 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 3: and he still hesitated. I asked if work was okay, 203 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: and told him that I wanted him to share what's 204 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: been bothering him because our job is to support each other. 205 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: I told him I would be honored and glad if 206 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: he told me and allowed me to help him, and 207 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: that it wouldn't burden me. He then told me that 208 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: he's been feeling anxiety and depression lately and that his 209 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: new manager is very rude and harsh to him. He 210 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: said he's been remembering the past mistakes his parents made 211 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: and that he doesn't want to make them with our kids. 212 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: He's thinking it might be better not to have kids 213 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: in case he gives. 214 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 5: Them bad experiences. 215 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: I now know what's been bothering him, and I'm glad 216 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: he opened up to me and allowed me to help him. 217 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 3: I'll figure out how to help him overcome this and 218 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: encourage him to share his struggles more often. Thanks to 219 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: everyone who gave genuine advice in the other post instead 220 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: of just jumping to conclusions. And for the record, my 221 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: husband is very mature. He can take much worse comments 222 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: from people and is very strong. If anything, it's me 223 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: that throws a fit over small stuff. He owns up 224 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: to his mistakes. He's hardworking, makes money, pays all the bills, 225 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: is smart with money, et cetera. So if everyone that 226 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: had to go at him frankly when it was none 227 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: of his fault, you miserable people just like to assume 228 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: the worst so you can dump your insecurities on someone else. 229 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: For the people that messaged me and gave me genuine advice, 230 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: thank you so much. I'm going to call his work 231 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: tomorrow and tell him he needs the day off or 232 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: a few days off. If it were up to me, 233 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: i'd on his manager where the sun does a shine, 234 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: But obviously I can't do that. I'll be spending the 235 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: whole day tomorrow with him, holding him and wrapped in blankets, 236 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: watching Transformers as someone recommended. Thank you to whoever recommended that. 237 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: I'll give him more figures and whatever else he's interested in, 238 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 3: but not all at once. 239 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Like it seems like everyone just talked it out. 240 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 5: Yeah talking to Yeah, I think that's that's great. 241 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: I had conflicting feelings at first, little bit mad you, 242 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: little confused at his reaction. 243 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 4: Because the context of what you said helped a lot. 244 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 5: It really did. 245 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: It was not that much wild choice to not include that. 246 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do this for life, because if I do 247 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: it all at once, it'll feel like love bombing. I 248 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: want to evenly spread out the love I have for 249 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: this man throughout my whole life. And it's now it 250 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: makes sense why he went to his parents' house. He 251 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: didn't want to be seen like that in case he 252 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: thought he would be a burden on me. Not because 253 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: he threw a fit or was overly sensitive. Like someone 254 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: said in the last post, I hope you know who 255 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: you are. And that's the end of that story. 256 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: Nice. 257 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: I kind of wonder what happened with his parents. So 258 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 3: if he went to his parents' house, right, did he 259 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: say that. 260 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: That was I feel like he probably just didn't say 261 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: what the actual reasoning was. 262 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, or maybe there's just something that he knows about 263 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: what happened and they. 264 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 5: Just don't totally know. Or yeah, he didn't tell the parents. 265 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: There's something something different. 266 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: Probably, I feel like interesting, But I'm glad you worked 267 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: it out, whatever all the details were. 268 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 5: And that's the end of this story. We're going on 269 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 5: to the next one. 270 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: I supported my wife's dream for years, and now I 271 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: feel like I'm carrying the marriage. 272 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: Uh oh dream a little uh more realistically. 273 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: Maybe my wife female thirty three and I at male 274 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: thirty four have been together for eleven years and married 275 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: for three. 276 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: Overall, we've had a. 277 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: Great relationship with ups and downs like everyone, but no 278 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: major issues and no huge fights. We've only slept in 279 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: separate beds by choice for one night since we've been together. 280 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Aggravating Web twenty eight seventeen, 281 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: and if you want to set your own stories, go 282 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: to the r slash Okay, storytime separated it. 283 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 5: I'm Carly, I'm. 284 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: Angie, and we're here to give good advice. 285 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: Goofiy, But we don't have all the answers. 286 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 5: We only know what we would do. 287 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: Let us know what you would do in the comments. 288 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 3: One night right wy eleven years Okay. 289 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: Recently we've come to the conclusion that she likely has ADHD, However, 290 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: she has not yet been diagnosed. Her symptoms are mainly 291 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: severe distraction and procrastination to the point of physical internal 292 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: discomfort when doing tasks, she doesn't have a vested interest in, 293 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: and she's late for everything. This lateness has been a 294 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: constant throughout our relationship. On the other hand, I find 295 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: lateness incredibly rude, and being late makes me extremely uncomfortable. 296 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: I'd say we're late ninety percent of the time for 297 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: joint activities. She's a wonderful, selfless person, but she had 298 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: a very difficult pass She also has depression an has 299 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: had therapy on and off for years to deal with 300 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: her past, and she's just started therapy again. Since we've 301 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: been together. She quit working for two and a half 302 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: years so that I could follow a career path to 303 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: a random developing country where she could not work. I'm 304 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: forever grateful and indebted to her for that. We returned 305 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: to the city where her family lives three years ago, 306 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: and since then I've been doing everything I can to 307 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: support or her going in whatever direction she wants. She 308 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: returned to UNI to start a new career, but eighteen 309 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: months in she ultimately decided it wasn't for her. She 310 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: incurred a decent student loan debt that will both be 311 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: paying off. Since mid twenty twenty four, she's been aiming 312 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: to start a business. She has worked part time in 313 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: a couple of different jobs on and off since we 314 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: got back while prioritizing her business. She has a fantastic 315 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: product and I truly believe it'll take off, and she 316 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: loves making it, but has no real interest in many 317 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: of the other parts involved in running a business. She 318 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: has made no progress on those parts in the last 319 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: twelve months. She has also spent a decent amount on 320 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: the equipment and materials needed. On my side, I've been 321 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: working full time for those three years and have been 322 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: the primary income earner. Money is tight. Recently, I feel 323 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: more like her manager than a life partner, and in turn, 324 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm feeling less attracted to her. We had a discussion 325 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: about money after doing a budget to help manage spending 326 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: of our joint funds. We did this together, but I 327 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: did most of it, as it's a task she wasn't 328 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: interested in. I asked if she'd consider full time work 329 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: or really focusing on her business by putting work into 330 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: developing a business plan, advertising strategy, and making sales. She 331 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: said she would, but she hasn't. The only time she 332 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: spent on a business plan is when I sat down 333 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: with her for coworking and led that process. I want 334 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: to help her, but I have no personal desire to 335 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: be involved in a business and absolutely do not want 336 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: to be involved in leading those components of her business 337 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: long term. She has lots of tabs open for other 338 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: jobs on her computer, but ninety five percent of those 339 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: opportunities closed before she puts in an application. She says 340 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: she simply cannot sit down and do it unless I help. 341 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: She smokes Devil's Lettuce frequently. It's prescribed, and I don't 342 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: really have issues with it because she says it really. 343 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 5: Does help her. 344 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: However, it's getting much more frequent. It's basically the first 345 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: thing she does when she gets up, and I'd estimate 346 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: she spends two to three hours per day smoking and chilling. 347 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: Had a weekend get away last week and she didn't 348 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: take her Devil's lettuce. Within ten minutes of getting home. 349 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: She was smoking twice. 350 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 5: Last week. 351 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: I came home from work after fairly long, stressful days 352 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: and she was dozing on the couch. This is a 353 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: frequent occurrence over the last few months. When I bring 354 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: up money, she says that I should look at other 355 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: jobs that pay more. She's not lazy. Things she's interested in, 356 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: like cooking, get done. Given our working arrangements, and since 357 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: she is home a lot of the time, she does 358 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: more housework than I do, although this has been more 359 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: balanced in the last few months. 360 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 5: She talks a lot. 361 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: About the need for coworking where I do the task 362 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: with her. This is fine, and I'm keen to support 363 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: her however I can. However, at the moment, the task 364 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: simply does not get done if I don't do it 365 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: with her, with seemingly no change in that issue on 366 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: the horizon. For example, her clothes have been literally covering 367 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: our entire spare bed for a week, as they do 368 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: most weeks. I made a passive, aggressive comment about it 369 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: that I regret, along the lines of asking her what 370 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: she thought the bed was for. This led to an 371 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: argument about me needing to put her clothes away with 372 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: her and the importance of coworking and body doubling for contact. 373 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: She leaves a lot of her things lying around on 374 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: the bed, kitchen table, coffee table. 375 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 5: Et cetera. 376 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: It is an absolute pet peeve of mine and makes 377 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: my skin tingle seeing those surfaces covered in her stuff. 378 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: We've discussed this frequently, and I regularly help her put 379 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: her stuff away. The day before this argument, I did 380 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: another task with her that she has been putting off 381 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: for months. She ultimately went and laid in bed while 382 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: I did it. I pushed her to help, and she 383 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: snapped and said why is everything we today. Sorry for 384 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: the long post, I guess I just feel like the 385 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: honest fur management and responsibility of the results of her 386 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: to ADHD is on me. So far, I can tell 387 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: she isn't taking tangible steps to help herself. The therapy 388 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: is to work through her past, not specifically for ADHD. 389 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: It's almost as if she's using the ADHD as an 390 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: excuse to justify these behaviors. I ultimately don't feel like 391 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: we're equal adult partners and are contributing equals lead to 392 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: this relationship currently. I love my wife, but I don't 393 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: want to feel like I need to manage her for 394 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: the rest of our lives. I do enough of that 395 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: sort of thing at work. This probably all sounds very selfish. 396 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: I'd say I'm the more selfish one in our relationship. 397 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: At the same time, I feel like I also have 398 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: a right to get what I need out of the relationship, 399 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: which isn't happening at the moment. Keen to hear from 400 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: anyone who's been through a similar thing this girl, I 401 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: don't think. I think it's unmedicated ADHD, and I feel 402 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: like we should get some of that. 403 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: Going think the same, Let's get some of that medication. 404 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 5: A little bit. 405 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: That was an interesting moment though, where it's like most 406 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 3: of it is like she needs to sing for multiple things, 407 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 3: like I need coworking, I need you to do this 408 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: with me so that I can do this, you know, 409 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 3: which is a very common thing with ADHD, the whole 410 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: body doubling thing. 411 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 5: But then it's strange. 412 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: To me that when you start doing something that you 413 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: guys both need to be doing, she's like, why do 414 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: we have to both be doing this? 415 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: Like you want us both to do this task, the 416 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: one that you asked me to. 417 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 5: Do with you? 418 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like yeah, I do crazy how that works, right, 419 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 3: That's like when you have to explain to kids, like 420 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: when you say can you help me with this? That 421 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: doesn't mean can you do this for me? You know literally, 422 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: but yeah, I think we need to try medication. 423 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 424 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 5: And if that's the case, I mean maybe she is. 425 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: Maybe she's not lazy, but maybe she's just definitely gotten 426 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: into it, like a mindset of not working towards stuff. 427 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. 428 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: That's what it feels like because she said she was 429 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: motivated when it's something that she's like really like jazzed 430 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: and interested in. 431 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 4: So I'm like maybe if. 432 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: We had the focus for the stuff we're not interested. 433 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 5: In you Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Edit. 434 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: Thank you to those who have already commented. A couple 435 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: of things to clarify that have come up in the comments. 436 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: I trust her implicitly, and no, she is not taking 437 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: me for a ride or mooching. She is and has 438 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: always done her best at contributing. I'm aware of the 439 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: limitation she may have, and I'm trying to understand them 440 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: as a mechanism to balance contributions a bit more. I 441 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: should have specified she is currently working part time and 442 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: has been for a while. This is so she has 443 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: time to focus on her business, but see the limitations 444 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: to that theory. 445 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 5: In the original post. 446 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: We have some comments comment to one another adult with 447 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: ADHD here. I agree that she really needs to be evaluated, diagnosed, 448 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: and treated. It's helpful to have a partner who understands 449 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: my ADHD and doesn't expect perfection from me. But it's 450 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: not enough to say, well, I think I have ADHD, 451 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: so UH just have to accept that I can't contribute. 452 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: It can't fall all on you. If she likes making 453 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: her product but avoids everything involved in the business side, 454 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: of things. It's very hard for me to imagine that 455 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: she's going to be able to run a sustainable business independently. 456 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: Treatment could make a major difference in her ability either 457 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: to actually execute on her business or get any kind 458 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: of job. Focus May is an excellent online platform for 459 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: coworking any time. I also really benefit from body doubling 460 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: and I use it a lot. Medication is very helpful 461 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: for for me. Opie replies, thank you for this reply 462 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: and for the recommendation. 463 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 5: I'll pass that on. 464 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: Your point about the businesses spot on and has been 465 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: nagging me for a while. Can I ask what way 466 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: the medication has helped you? Comment to she's taking you 467 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: for such a ride. She literally tells you she needs 468 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: you to do everything with her so it gets done, 469 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: and that's just what she needs. That's some wild crap. 470 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: You've helped enable the entitled dynamic to Opi. Opi replies, 471 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: I trust her. I know one hundred percent she's contributing 472 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: as much as she thinks she physically can at the 473 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: moment and has throughout our relationship. The issue is that 474 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: her best contribution is becoming subpar within the context of 475 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: our marriage and is not on a trajectory that I 476 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: want to live with for the next however many years, 477 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: and in increasing it at this stage seems to be 478 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: up to me to manage. I'm reaching out to see 479 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: what she and I can both do to shift the 480 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: needle on this. 481 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 5: That's the end of mess story. 482 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: I think some good old ADHD medication. 483 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 7: I think. 484 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: So I think she should talk about this stuff in 485 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 3: therapy for sure. 486 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it probably just maybe hasn't come up. 487 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 5: And if the therapist. 488 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: Heard any of this, she yeah, honey, She's like. 489 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, because like I have ADHD too, and 490 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: like I'm on medication, but even on medication, and like 491 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, there's things that I could have done 492 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: differently on my own without medication that would have helped. 493 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: And there's things that I should do differently on medication 494 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: on my own that could help, you know what I mean. 495 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: Like yeah, like there's there's also just other things and 496 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: other mindsets that you can have towards things that will 497 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: help your ADHD, and like other practices and like think 498 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 3: even stupid things like exercise. 499 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 5: And eating, you know what I mean. 500 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 3: It's like that stuff like contributes to it too, and 501 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: a therapist will definitely help you figure that out more so. 502 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 5: That's the end of that story. 503 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: My boyfriend's family excluded me for years, but invited his 504 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: brother's new girlfriend. 505 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 7: She's probably cooler than you. 506 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: My boyfriend, thirty one male, and I thirty three female, 507 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: have been together for just over three years. We live 508 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: together and are in a committed relationship. Over time, I 509 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: have made a genuine effort to connect with his family. 510 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: I have joined them for holidays, birthdays, other gatherings, and 511 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: I have always tried to be kind, respectful, and supportive. 512 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from takuz and sashimi, and 513 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: if you want to see your own stories, go to 514 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: the r slash Okay storytime subredded. 515 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 7: I'm Carly, I'm Keon, and. 516 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: We're here to give good advice carefully. 517 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: But we don't have all the answers. We only know 518 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: what we would do, So let us know what you 519 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: would do in the comments. 520 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 5: I know, he says. 521 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: His aunt forty six female, who is considered the last 522 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: single aunt in the family, announced that she is getting 523 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: married in June this year. It has been a big 524 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: deal for everyone and the family's very excited. I assumed 525 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: I would be attending the wedding with my boyfriend. I 526 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: have met his aunt several times. We've always gotten along. 527 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: There has never been any tension or awkwardness between us. 528 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: When I asked my boyfriend about the plans, he told 529 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: me that he had been invited but was not allowed 530 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: to bring a plus one. I felt disappointed, but I 531 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: wanted to give the benefit of the doubt. I figured 532 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: maybe the wedding was small or the guest list was limited. 533 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: Then I found out that his younger brother, twenty six male, 534 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: who has only been dating his girlfriend, twenty female for 535 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: about six months, was allowed to bring her to the wedding. 536 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: That really hurt. 537 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: I do not blame her at all, but it made 538 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: me feel like I'm not seen as part of the family, 539 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: even after three years. I talked to my boyfriend about 540 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: how I felt. I explained that it made me feel 541 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: excluded and undervalued. He listened and was supportive, and he 542 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: told me he understood why I was hurt and that 543 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: my feelings were valid. At the same time, he feels 544 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: that I should not let this one event affect how 545 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: I view his family as a whole. He thinks I 546 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: should continue attending family gatherings and that skipping them might 547 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: make things more awkward or strained later on. 548 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: This is where I'm struggling. 549 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: There is a family reunion coming up this summer in September. 550 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: It's a big camping trip they do every year and 551 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: everyone attends. Normally I would go, but right now I 552 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: do not feel comfortable. I want to set this one out. 553 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I need time to process and protect 554 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: my emotional space instead of forcing myself into a situation. 555 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: I love my boyfriend and I'm not trying to create 556 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: a rift or make him choose sides. I just need 557 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: some space to think about what this all means for 558 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: me and how I fit into his world moving forward. 559 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: Has anyone dealt with something similar? How do you find 560 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: the balance between protecting your feelings and staying connected with 561 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: your partner's family? 562 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 4: And we have an update. 563 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 7: This is weird. This is really weird. 564 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 5: It's really weird. 565 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 7: And the fact that your boyfriend's like, no, you shouldn't 566 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 7: like does he? I have a feeling he doesn't want 567 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 7: you to go right. 568 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: Why is he not calling out the fact that his 569 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: younger brother gets a plus one and he'd done, but 570 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: he's he does not want you there, Like He's like don't't 571 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: worry about it. 572 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 5: Baby's fine. 573 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 7: I get I get to like it's if it was like, oh, 574 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 7: no one's invited. That's one thing again. And ope you 575 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 7: understood that too. 576 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: Brother's girlfriend of six months. 577 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 7: He's invited you. You met the aunt, you've been together 578 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 7: for about. 579 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: Years, christ like multiple holidays. 580 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 7: I feel like he doesn't want you there because he's like, hey, 581 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 7: you should just let this go. Like it's just not 582 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 7: like they shouldn't affect you. You should just let this go. 583 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna really ask about it, like, yeah, a 584 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 7: little bro and his girl for six months get to 585 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 7: go like they're going together, but like I just want 586 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 7: to go alone. 587 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: The wedding invitation was sent out in March through the 588 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: not website. I went through the whole site, including the 589 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: couple's story and the Q and I section. To RSVP, 590 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: you have to type in your full name and it 591 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: will indicate whether you're invited solo or with a plus. 592 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 7: What see go on? 593 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 8: Go on. 594 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: When my boyfriend entered his name, only his name came 595 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: up with no plus one. Out of curiosity, we typed 596 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: in his younger brother's name and his did include his 597 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: girlfriend's name in the Q and a section it said 598 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: the guest list was limited and only those listed by 599 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: name were invited. At first, my boyfriend was upset, Oh okay, great, 600 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: and wanted to reach out to his aunt directly. I 601 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: told him not to. I didn't want to add any 602 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: extra stress to her while she's planning her wedding. I 603 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: helped my best friend plan hers last year, so I 604 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: know how overwhelming it can be. Instead, he called his 605 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: dad to ask about it. He stepped out for the conversation, 606 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: so I'm not exactly. 607 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: Sure what was said. 608 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: After I posted about it last night, I brought it 609 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: up again with my boyfriend. He was hesitant at first, 610 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: but eventually opened up. I had a gut feeling about 611 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: his younger brother, and it turns out I was not wrong. 612 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: The couple decided not to invite unwed partners, but they 613 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: made an exception for his younger brother. From what I've 614 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: seen and heard over the years, he's definitely the family favorite. 615 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: He was a nick you baby, and the family has 616 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: treated him with extra care. He usually gets what he 617 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: wants and rarely faces consequences. As we talked more, my 618 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: boyfriend admitted he does feel some resentment towards his younger brother. 619 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: He said, it's always felt like his brother receives special treatment, 620 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: and this is just another example. He has come to 621 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: accept it because it has been that way since his 622 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: brother was born. There are clearly deeper emotions at play 623 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: for him, and I want to support him through that. 624 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: I also found out that a cousin thirty four male's 625 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: long term girlfriend twenty nine female of eight years, was 626 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: not invited either. 627 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 7: Dang okay, so okay, so my theory was wrong. 628 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's literally just younger brother that gets a plus one. 629 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 7: That's insane. I feel like the entire family is going 630 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 7: to go out on a limb. I'm going out on 631 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 7: a limb here. They're gonna just like look at him 632 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 7: and just be like, do you think this is cool? 633 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 7: Do you think it's fair? 634 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonn question anything. He's the golden 635 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: child and everyone's been doing this for him. 636 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 7: This is crazy. 637 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: That made me feel a little less alone. She's actually 638 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: more upset about it than I am. I reached out 639 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: to her and we're planning a spa and nail day 640 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: on the wedding day. Honestly, it helps to know I'm 641 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: not the only one feeling left out. 642 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 4: We just have a little bit more. 643 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 7: This is really weird, and I think this is eye 644 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 7: opening for your partner for a lot of the partners 645 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 7: and family members who are like, whoa this is? This 646 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 7: is not cool? 647 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be such a weird like people should 648 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: like because you don't want to call him out at 649 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: the wedding. But it's like, did he like get upset 650 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: and cry and that's. 651 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 5: How we got it? 652 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 4: Or like literally they were just. 653 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: Like we're not even gonna like potentially upset the Golden Baby. 654 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 7: Like I want to know what Opie's partner's dad said, 655 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 7: because like, yeah, he's the only one who gets the invite, 656 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 7: and like, hey, dad, do you not see what's wrong 657 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 7: with that at all? Does no one see what's wrong 658 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 7: with this? 659 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: My boyfriend and the cousin are still planning to attend 660 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: the wedding to support their aunt, which I come play 661 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: understand it is an important day for her. It still 662 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: stings that I was not included, but I've accepted that 663 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: I cannot control how others choose to handle their guest 664 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: list or family dynamics. I am choosing to focus on 665 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: my piece instead. I'm still undecided about attending the family 666 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: reunion camping trip, but if the cousin's girlfriend goes, I 667 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: will be more open to it. Ps the petty part 668 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: of me wants to not invite this couple to our 669 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: future wedding when my boyfriend and I get married, and 670 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: also not give the younger brother plus one. 671 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 4: It made me laugh just thinking about it. 672 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: I might get over it by then, but I thought 673 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: it was a funny little thought worth sharing. 674 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is a weird family. 675 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 5: If you want to be petty at your wedding or now. 676 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 7: It's your wedding, your rules, and I get it. But 677 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 7: this is a weird dynamic for the entire family to 678 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 7: just be like that's cool, like you get like this 679 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 7: is all cool. It flies under the radar kind of thing. 680 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 7: I don't know, very weird, very very weird. 681 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: And I just don't care how nobody's the questioning. 682 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 7: No one's questioning it. That's that's my that's my head scratcher. 683 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 7: Is nobody's questioning it and everyone's playing it cool like 684 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 7: this is okay. I don't know. I don't like it. 685 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 5: And that's the end of this story. 686 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to the next one. 687 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 7: My boyfriend said, my gaming was a problem, so I 688 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 7: chose my freedom. 689 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 5: Bye bye to the boyfriend. 690 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 7: I'm from the UK and I have a very very 691 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 7: good job for someone my age, but that means it 692 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 7: can be very stressful. When I come home from work, 693 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 7: I like to wind down and play maybe an hour 694 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 7: or two on my PS four. My favorite game is 695 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 7: Fallout four and I play it maybe two to three 696 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 7: times a week. My boyfriend adored the fact that I 697 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 7: loved games, but I don't play them as much as 698 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 7: I'd like to. By the way, this comes from user 699 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 7: Throwaway ninety eighty seventy x, and if you want to 700 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 7: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 701 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 7: story time star bout it. I'm key On, I'm Carly, 702 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 7: and I'm Dakota, and we're here to give good advice. Goofily. 703 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 7: We only know what we do, so let us know 704 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 7: what you'd do in the comments. As Op says, my 705 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 7: boyfriend's idea of winding down after work near the end 706 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 7: of the week is going to the pub. I happily go, 707 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 7: obviously to socialize, but I'm already done with that stage 708 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 7: of my life where I want to go out and 709 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 7: get waste now. But I do enjoy a drink. But 710 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 7: this morning he invited me out to drinks and I 711 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 7: have been absolutely shattered this week and I haven't once 712 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 7: looked at my PS four. I honestly just want to 713 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 7: sleep tonight. He immediately jumped on the defensive and said, 714 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 7: you're more invested into that PS four than me. All 715 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 7: you ever do is sit and play with it, which 716 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 7: isn't true. We have an amazing slash regular, spicy sleep life, 717 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 7: great soir girl friends, and I do make sure communication 718 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 7: is a thing we have and are honest with each other, 719 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 7: and we've been together for almost a year and it's 720 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 7: coming close to our anniversary. I told him that it 721 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 7: wasn't true, and I always offer him to play it 722 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 7: or with me and let him have a free reign 723 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 7: of it. He can use it more than me sometimes 724 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 7: and has said, well, it isn't lady like for girls 725 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 7: to be playing You're far too old to be playing 726 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 7: it anymore. What are you my dad? What are you 727 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 7: my dad? 728 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 5: He just called you old and was assigned. 729 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 7: What are you my dad? You can't enjoy video games. 730 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 7: You're a woman. 731 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: You're an old woman. You can't be playing video games. 732 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: You're old and a woman. 733 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 7: It may sound silly, but it kind of stung. I've 734 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 7: loved playing games since I was little. We argued over it, 735 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 7: and he basically said that I need to get a 736 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,239 Speaker 7: grip and that he's had enough and started shouting and 737 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 7: mocking me for it, then threatened to leave. Cool by threat, Yeah. 738 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: That's always the best part of the I'm threatening to 739 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: do the thing that would be better. 740 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 6: Don't don't let me leave though. 741 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's like, why aren't you going out to the 742 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 7: bars getting wasted and really hating your life rather just 743 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 7: staying inside and playing video games. You should go out 744 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 7: to the bars and just waste a lot of money 745 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 7: on drinks to feel. 746 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 6: Bad develop a serious substance use issue. Please be an adults. 747 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 7: I'm honestly not troll. I'm just stunned. He didn't even 748 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 7: come home after work and went straight out with our friends. 749 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 7: Do I talk to him about it or just leave him? 750 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 7: Am I too old for it? Am I childish? Gambino 751 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 7: for this relevant comments, hydro Kahn says, yeah, he's an 752 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 7: a hole. I gain way more than that, and my 753 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 7: fiance is fine with it. We both prefer chilling at 754 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 7: home rather than going out to n whine after a 755 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 7: long day, though, your boyfriend sounds like a knucklehead and 756 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 7: it's trying to manipulate you. If it was me, i'd 757 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 7: leave him if he didn't apologize, and if you ever 758 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 7: said something like that again, hope, he responds. Funnily enough, 759 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 7: he just texted me saying he was sorry, but you 760 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 7: needed a dose of the truth. So he's basically said sorry, 761 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 7: not sorry to me. I'm amazed at how much of 762 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 7: a but he's being. I'm definitely considering ending things. I'm 763 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 7: trying to make a rational decision as I'm still a 764 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 7: little bewildered by it. User delete it says you're playing 765 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 7: excessively and it's encroaching on our couple time equals a 766 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 7: reasonable complaint. You shouldn't play because you're a girl equals 767 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 7: unreasonable complaint. Also misogynistic and sexist? Is he a butt 768 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 7: about you doing other unladylike activities? And there's an edit 769 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 7: saying ah, and he yells and mocks you in anger? 770 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 7: Dump him. We have an update. I think a genuine 771 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 7: conversation should happen. 772 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 4: But I think the genuine dumping conversation. 773 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 7: He took the words right out of my mouth. I 774 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 7: was like a genuine breakup, but we have an update. 775 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 7: Let's see what happens. And this was the next day. 776 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 7: Oh and wow, it starts off with we meete up. 777 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 4: Oh well not ey, no change it to happy. 778 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 7: It's good, it's not they got us. He came back 779 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 7: home wasted at like four am, and I had a 780 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 7: few things gathered together as I decided that I'm going 781 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 7: to be staying at my parents for a while and 782 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 7: sort things out like rent, et cetera. Before I left 783 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 7: for my parents. He apologized in the morning at like 784 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 7: ten am. He took the day off work because of it, 785 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 7: but didn't apologize, calling me out on my regular use 786 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 7: and just telling me to quit my boy habits. I 787 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 7: was baffled, and I asked what it is that he 788 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 7: wants from this relationship, because I was under the impression 789 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 7: he wanted me to break up with him, And he 790 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 7: said for me to listen to him and basically do 791 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 7: what he says. So I told him I am listening 792 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 7: to him, and that I didn't like what I was 793 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 7: listening to, so I told him he was being a 794 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 7: misogynistic pig. Made points of saying how often I play 795 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 7: my PS four and that he can use it more 796 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 7: than me. I then rounded it up by telling him 797 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 7: to go out himself and that we were done. Not 798 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 7: the most gracious thing to do, but it got the 799 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 7: message across. There is a little bit left here, but congratulations, Op, 800 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 7: y'all left him. You didn't deserve him. He didn't deserve you. 801 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: Wow, and he really doubled down. You can't be it. 802 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: You're an old woman and you should just listen to 803 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: me all the time. 804 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 7: They playing video games is unladylike and like, really uncouth. 805 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 4: You know what is lady like though? Listening to me 806 00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 4: all the. 807 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 6: Time, Yeah, and going to the pup. 808 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: My brain would simply turn to mush if I like. 809 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 7: Baby, you know what we really hot is if you 810 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 7: just drank that guinness in like zero point two seconds. 811 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 7: I'm sitting in my old bedroom receiving mixed messages from between. 812 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, baby, please come back and stop being such 813 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 7: a witch. You get the point. I don't need that, 814 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 7: nor deserve it. I'm a mixture of emotions, but hey, 815 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 7: at least I can romance MacCready or dance on Fallout four. Haha. Oh, 816 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 7: we have some comments here. Come a number one. Your 817 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 7: regular use to playing games a few hours a week 818 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 7: is destroying us. Well, off to the pub to drink 819 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 7: like I do every day. Bye. Come I Number two. 820 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 7: It's the fact that he had adored the fact that 821 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 7: she liked games until he suddenly saw it as a problem. 822 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 7: Com In three. Every time someone uses the term lady like, 823 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 7: something passes away inside of me. If you use that, 824 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 7: I know you won't contribute anything of value to the discussion. 825 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 7: Come at four. Ah, Yes, the groveling and the demeaning 826 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 7: will get you back your ex. Coming five. I truly 827 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 7: despise how ingraining the idea of gaming being a male 828 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 7: hobby is. It was such a crap move to market 829 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 7: it to us that way. I got a friend into 830 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 7: gaming when we were in college ten years ago. She 831 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 7: was vaguely familiar because her ex was a huge Watchdogs fan, 832 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 7: and I really enjoy just talking to her about what 833 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 7: she's playing now. She has since transitioned from interactive story 834 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 7: games Detroit Until Dawn to turn based RPGs such as 835 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 7: Balther's Gay three and my favorite Expedition thirty three Clairevskier 836 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 7: Game of the Years, both of them phenomenal games. My 837 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 7: friend's current game is Disco Elysium. Shout out to all 838 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 7: my gamers out there. There's a case of if your 839 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 7: partner or friend who or whomever is playing video games 840 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 7: twenty four to seven and abandoning their lifestyles and their 841 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 7: habits and like not showering, that's one thing. That's where 842 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 7: you need to find help and someone needs to call 843 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 7: you out on that. But this is your wind down 844 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 7: of like, hey, hey, I enjoy playing video games, and like, 845 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 7: this is how I wind down to play a couple hours. 846 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 7: Maybe you know, I think that's totally fine. It's weird. 847 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 7: I don't know. Your boyfriend's weird, especially when he started 848 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 7: the relationship. You're a gamer girl, that's really cool. I 849 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 7: like that about you. To you're a gamer girl. That's 850 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 7: unlady like, I hate that about you. So congratulations. Now 851 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 7: you get to play all the video games without being 852 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 7: stressed out by a stinky, stinky man. 853 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 854 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: to the next one. Hey, it's Carly Keon's go friend here. 855 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories. But here's three 856 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: minutes of ads from our sponsors. 857 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: My brother nearly ruined our family, and my mother wants 858 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 2: me to keep. 859 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 5: Him ew no, get him out of here. 860 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 6: Jesus, I don't know where to begin. 861 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 2: Recently, I started listening to these Am I the Ah 862 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 2: videos while working out. So I have a strange, intense 863 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 2: relationship with my mom and a lot of her side 864 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: of the family. When I was twenty one, I became 865 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 2: a single father to my daughter CC. And by the way, 866 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 2: this comes from user Living Wheel. And if you want 867 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash 868 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: Okay storytime subpurt it. I'm Dakota and I'm Savannah, and 869 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 2: we're here to give good advice. Goofily because we don't 870 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 2: know all the answers to everything. We only know what 871 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 2: we know, So let us know what you know in 872 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 2: the comments, and OP says I was working overnights in 873 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 2: a warehouse and had to move back in with my 874 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 2: mom and younger golden child brother I'll just called him GB. 875 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 2: Going forward, as CC's egg donor decided she'd rather live 876 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: the socialite life than be a mother. My mom was 877 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: helpful with CC when it was convenient for her. If 878 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 2: she had a rough day at work, she was more 879 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 2: concerned with having a drink and unwinding rather than helping 880 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: with her granddaughter. 881 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 6: GB. 882 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: Though I could write a book about how incompetent and 883 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 2: useless he was, one day is burned into my memory. 884 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 2: CEC was only about eight months old at time. On 885 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: my way home from work one morning, I got stuck 886 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: in traffic. I tried calling home and let them know 887 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 2: what was going on and that CC likely needed to 888 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 2: be fed. I got home almost two hours after clocking 889 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 2: out and heard CC crying in our room. GB was 890 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 2: sitting on the couch. He said something that almost set 891 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 2: me off. He said, about daying time, she's been crying. 892 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 2: I explained there was an accident blocking traffic and asked 893 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 2: him why she was crying. I don't know, is all 894 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 2: I got in response. I asked how long as I 895 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 2: headed into my room. According to him, she had been 896 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 2: crying for almost an hour, with a soiled diaper and hungry. 897 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 2: GB couldn't even be bothered to check on her. It 898 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 2: is crazy to let a baby cry for an hour 899 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 2: and not do anything about it, even if it's not 900 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 2: your baby, even if it's. 901 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 6: Your brother's baby. 902 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 2: You're insane for not checking on the baby at all 903 00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: or doing anything. 904 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 5: I feel like it's just a response in humans that 905 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 5: like when you hear a baby cry, like for me 906 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 5: at least it like pains me. 907 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 6: No, it does. 908 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 5: It's like, okay, I have to go and stop it's. 909 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 6: Supposed to And he just like put his headphones in. 910 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 5: Probably that's insane. I ever, what and for an hour? 911 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 5: Could you imagine how hoarse like the their throat is. 912 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: You know, I'm fully you gotta you gotta lay out 913 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 2: exactly what you're looking for. Though, if your brother is 914 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: this stupid and incompetent, you gotta be like, if I'm 915 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 2: not here, you can do this. You can do a 916 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: thing the baby, not even help me help the baby. 917 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 2: After a couple of years of these two acting like this, 918 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 2: especially Golden Boy, I was on the phone with my 919 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 2: dad and stepmom. He offered me help with raising her 920 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: and getting my life on track. The cliff notes on 921 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 2: what happened next. CC's egg donor royally messed up and 922 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: got her parental rights terminated, essentially leaving her without a 923 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 2: legal mother. Mom's started giving me grief about running away 924 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: from family responsibilities. Golden Boys started talking about what he 925 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: was going to do to my room once we were gone. 926 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 2: I packed everything up and made an eleven hundred mile 927 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 2: road trip several states away with a toddler phone turned 928 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 2: off because my mom was blowing it up, demanding I 929 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 2: turn around and bring her only grandchild back to her. 930 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 6: Since then, I. 931 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,479 Speaker 2: Met a woman who was phenomenal with CEC. We got 932 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,959 Speaker 2: married and she adopted CEC officially a couple of years ago, 933 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: right after Mother's Day. We also have an eight year 934 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 2: old son. We've made trips back to my hometown several 935 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 2: times over the years, usually for holidays or stopping by 936 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 2: on our way to Orlando. The hometown is in Florida, 937 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 2: by the way, and over the years, Golden Boy has 938 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 2: not shown the slightest interest in growing up or not 939 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 2: being absolutely disgusting. I'm pretty sure there are stories about 940 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 2: him on the neck Beard subreddit. Details about Golden Boy 941 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 2: Golden bingis he is thirty six years old now. He 942 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 2: still lives at home with mom. He's been on disability 943 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 2: for a while, not entirely sure how long, for seizures. 944 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 2: He had them as a teenager, then they stopped for 945 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 2: a while and came back as an adult, and his 946 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: fast food job couldn't keep him because he couldn't have 947 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: a seizure around hot oil and sharp knives. He and 948 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 2: my mom went through the process of getting him on disability. 949 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 2: So he does nothing but sleep and play video games 950 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:25,959 Speaker 2: all day. 951 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 6: That's crazy. 952 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: The guy who has seizures is playing video games all day. 953 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like that's not gonna work now. 954 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 2: He thinks that he's the cool uncle for some reason. 955 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 2: We never stay with them when we're in town, and 956 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 2: Ceci has been very vocal over the last six years 957 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 2: that my brother makes her feel uncomfortable. When she was twelve, 958 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 2: he offered to let her smoke or drink with him, since, 959 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 2: to him, quote, kids your age are going to do 960 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 2: it anyway, might as well do it with an adult 961 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: you trust. 962 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 6: When she was twelve, whoa, that's great. 963 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 2: I mean depending on what part of Florida you're from, 964 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 2: Like yeah, sure, but like you shouldn't be encouraging it. 965 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 6: That's crazy. 966 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 2: He also talked about his relationships, the last one seventeen 967 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 2: years ago, in uncomfortable detail. 968 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 5: With his niece. 969 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 2: He even has to be reminded to bathe. Both Ceci 970 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 2: and my son, who is eight years old, have called 971 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 2: him out for smelling like straight up bo and cat p. 972 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: According to my mom, this is rude and uncalled for 973 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 2: I need to make this clear. He has never been 974 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 2: diagnosed as autistic or developmentally challenged or neurodivergent in any way. 975 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 2: He's just been raised, entitled and lazy. Recently, we got 976 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 2: back from an Orlando trip, passing through my hometown without stopping. 977 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 2: I got that guilt laden phone call from my mom 978 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 2: about how they missed us, and she drops this bomb. 979 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 2: She updated her will to leave everything split between me 980 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: and Golden Boy, and she wants me to take him 981 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 2: in and care for him if anything happens to her. 982 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 2: I couldn't help but laugh and tell her in these 983 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: exact words, not a snowflake's chance in the lake of fire. 984 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: Is he ever living with us? She knows he makes 985 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 2: Cecy uncomfortable, but her logic is since she's going off 986 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 2: to college soon and will be out on her own, 987 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: that means we'll have the space and Cec won't have 988 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: to worry about him. 989 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 8: Oh that's so nice. Your eighteen year old's going to 990 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 8: go to college soon, so you can take in your 991 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 8: thirty six year old brother and make him your next teenager. 992 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 8: No for real though, no, abs No. 993 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 2: She explained that my brother can't take care of himself 994 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 2: because of his seizures. He can't cook, he can't clean 995 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: up after himself, and can't remember to bathe unless reminded. 996 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's not how that works. 997 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 2: When she started going on about CC not feeling uncomfortable 998 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 2: around him because he openly talked about his spicy sleep 999 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: life to his niece when she was twelve, I said, 1000 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 2: you are describing someone who needs assisted living, not a 1001 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: room in a house with people unqualified to provide the 1002 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 2: assistance you say he clearly needs. And I'm not making 1003 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 2: my kids spend time around anyone who makes them feel uncomfortable, 1004 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 2: family or not. Honestly, I don't really care if I'm 1005 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 2: the a hole or not. This whole thing just started 1006 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 2: pissing me off, and there are comments and I would say, 1007 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 2: you're not the ale. 1008 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 6: That's insane. Your brother needs to learn how to take 1009 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 6: care of himself, even if he does have seizures. 1010 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, having seizures doesn't like I mean, that is a 1011 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 5: horrible thing to have, but it does not affect the 1012 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 5: way that you can just like pick up after yourself. 1013 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 5: That's crazy. 1014 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 6: I know this guy totally. He played the system. 1015 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 2: He got on disability for having a seizure, diagnosis and 1016 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 2: he has just completely checked out of his own existence 1017 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 2: at this point. Yeah, so mom takes care of everything. 1018 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous comments. Not the A whole as someone with seizures. 1019 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 2: He's just lazy. I have a job, I'm married, I 1020 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 2: have children, and bathe regularly and clean up after myself 1021 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 2: and others and cook. I am a functioning adult capable 1022 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 2: of taking care of herself, and I still have seizures. 1023 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 2: I wear a medical bracelet with a QR code that 1024 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 2: prompts someone to call my emergency contact if I have 1025 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 2: a seizure. It also has all the information a paramedic 1026 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 2: might need. Seizures aren't a reason to lay around and 1027 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 2: do nothing. Yes, there are people who have seizures that 1028 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 2: also have disabilities. From what you describe here, he doesn't 1029 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 2: seem to be one of them. He's in for one 1030 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 2: brutal wake up call. When she passes, there will be 1031 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 2: no one to save him from his laziness. And there 1032 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 2: are a second comment, not the a hole, but ask 1033 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 2: for a copy of the will. If it's guardianship of 1034 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 2: the manchild, then put him in assisted living. Opie says, 1035 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 2: I plan on consulting a lawyer to make sure my 1036 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 2: bases are covered, but from what my wife and I found, 1037 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 2: there is no sibling responsibility laws in Florida or Texas, 1038 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 2: which is where we are, and they can't legally make 1039 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 2: me take him in. Comment three, He says, I'm on 1040 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 2: the fence, but I'm confident of this. She can put 1041 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 2: whatever the heck she wants in her will. That doesn't 1042 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 2: mean you have to take him in, although depending on 1043 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 2: your location and how smart her lawyer is, that might 1044 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 2: mean you don't get whatever your inheritance would be not 1045 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 2: the a hole. And I'm surprised you're still in touch 1046 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 2: with either of them. I wouldn't be op, he says. 1047 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 2: I mainly keep in touch with her for my kid's sake. 1048 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 2: Dad and stepmom passed six and four years ago. Mom 1049 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 2: got sober a few years after I left, and although 1050 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 2: I still keep her at a distance, I can at 1051 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 2: least say she's a decent grandmother. Now, the current situation excluded, 1052 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 2: But as it stands, if my inheritance is dependent on 1053 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 2: taking him in, I'm more than willing to just let 1054 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 2: everything go. And there's an update, Yeah, I think counter offer. 1055 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: Why don't we just have a move out right now? 1056 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 2: Have a move out right now, you pay for his 1057 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 2: apartment blah blah blah blah. 1058 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 6: And if you're like, oh, I can't do that, it's like, 1059 00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 6: well he needs to be able to. 1060 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, It's just like how long do you have to 1061 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 5: like keep a man child around like for him to 1062 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 5: like get a wake up call or something. It's just 1063 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 5: like how many things can you possibly do for this 1064 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 5: person when they don't do anything for themselves or others, 1065 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 5: They're just sitting there rotting. 1066 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's why the wake up call needs to 1067 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,720 Speaker 2: be like there's no one here taking care of you anymore. 1068 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 6: Wake up call. You actually have to figure it out. 1069 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,280 Speaker 5: Start learning how to use a rag and a sponge 1070 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 5: to clean yourself up. 1071 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, or just live in a hovel, live in a 1072 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 2: little place and let it become a filthy, disgusting mess 1073 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 2: and live off your disability checks and be a disgusting 1074 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:40,919 Speaker 2: little hermit man. 1075 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 6: Those are your choices. But that has nothing to do 1076 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 6: with op. 1077 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1078 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 6: Update didn't expect this to blow up. Nobody ever does. 1079 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 2: I guess I was busy over the weekend, but I'm 1080 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 2: back to work from my paid time off now until August. 1081 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 2: Mom and Golden Boy never agreed to take care of cz. 1082 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 2: They did after CEC's bio mom disappeared, but they dropped 1083 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 2: the ball consistently. It almost cost me custody. Why am 1084 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 2: I still in contact with them? A golden boy, I'm 1085 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 2: not in contact with but my mom. I maybe talked 1086 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 2: to her three times a year Christmas Birthday in Mother's Day. 1087 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 2: I haven't seen her in over two years. His disability, 1088 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 2: he has been seizure free for multiple years. One of 1089 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 2: my old coworkers has seizures and the longest she went 1090 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: without one in eight years was two months. He can 1091 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 2: still work and is able bodied. He doesn't need someone 1092 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 2: to do everything for him. Yeah, I think get him 1093 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 2: a job. First step, Get job? 1094 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, Like get a job. Like all that time 1095 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 5: that you have that you're setting around, like wasting away 1096 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,439 Speaker 5: like either watching TV or like playing video games or something, 1097 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 5: it's like, go out and do something. 1098 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 6: Just take a walk outside. 1099 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 2: Literally go outside and let at least the air unstankify 1100 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:00,720 Speaker 2: you in some way. 1101 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 6: You're so stanked out you're not even bathing. 1102 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 5: Like it's just it's just such like ego and entitled entitlement. 1103 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: Truly, just like full blown. I've given up on life 1104 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 2: entitlement and like. 1105 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 5: Why would you want to pass that burden onto someone else, 1106 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 5: like in your own like child. 1107 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just probably the mom probably just 1108 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,320 Speaker 2: can't face the fact that it's like she kind of 1109 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 2: ruined her kid. 1110 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, doesn't want to own up to that. 1111 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 6: And in said it's like. 1112 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he had a seizure two years ago, so 1113 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 2: he's fully incapable of taking care of himself. 1114 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 6: Whatever. 1115 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with me or my kid, Like, we're 1116 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 2: just doing the things we have to do, just like 1117 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 2: coping mechanism. 1118 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 5: Well, and now it's been like what a few years 1119 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 5: since he's had one, like because I know, like there's 1120 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,240 Speaker 5: like different laws and everything. 1121 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 6: No, he's doing fraud he's one. There's one hundred percent 1122 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 6: fraudulent disability or something. 1123 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's whatever, He's doing whatever he needs to do. 1124 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 6: As long as he can get that, he's gonna get it. 1125 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 5: Oh for sure. Yeah he's gonna melk the Sitchan for 1126 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 5: all it has. 1127 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 2: Anyway, we asked the kids how they feel about seeing 1128 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 2: their grandma. Cc is not a fan, preferring her mama 1129 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 2: and paul Pa my wife's parents. My son doesn't mind 1130 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,760 Speaker 2: my mom, but describes Golden Boy as stinky, boring, and loud. 1131 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 2: We all agreed to keep both of them away, no 1132 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 2: low contact or no contact entirely. Wife is fully on 1133 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 2: board with keeping Golden Boy away. Even if his attitude 1134 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 2: was different. He would need assisted living, especially over the summer. 1135 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: She's found a few facilities that accommodate epileptic adults as 1136 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 2: young as thirty five in my hometown. And there's this 1137 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 2: second update. Now this guy full blown. If he's playing 1138 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 2: video games all day and he has epilepsy, that's insane, 1139 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 2: Like I just don't believe he has. I don't know, 1140 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 2: that's crazy. Still low contact with mom and Golden Boy. 1141 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 2: Birthday call from Mom requesting money that blocked her. She 1142 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 2: didn't ask about CC. Diana and I agree, Golden Boy 1143 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 2: is either going to end up and assisted living or prison. 1144 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 6: Either way, he'll get the care he needs. And that 1145 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 6: is the end of that story. 1146 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 5: Wow, so they just come in their lives. 1147 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,800 Speaker 6: No, he's truly not your problem, not your issue. Honestly. 1148 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 2: I after he just let my child cry for an 1149 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 2: hour and did nothing, that would have been the moment 1150 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, you're like no longer functionally 1151 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 2: like my brother or someone I trust or care about 1152 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 2: at all. 1153 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,720 Speaker 6: Because that's crazy. 1154 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 5: And that's the end of this story. 1155 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: We're going to go to the next one. 1156 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 6: Hey, it's Dakota, your favorite goofball host here, and we're 1157 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 6: going to get back to the stories. But here's three 1158 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 6: minutes of ads from our sponsors. 1159 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 5: I'm accused of ruiny my sister in Lost Life just 1160 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 5: because I refuse to babysit every day. 1161 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 6: That was your job. You signed up for that. 1162 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,439 Speaker 5: I female twenty seven, have a younger brother, James, who's 1163 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 5: twenty five. James and his girlfriend, Sarah, female twenty seven, 1164 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 5: have a two year old and a seven month old, 1165 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 5: whereas I am single and child free by choice. We 1166 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 5: only live about five minutes apart and have always been 1167 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 5: very close. I helped them out with the kids pretty 1168 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 5: often ever since their oldest was born. I babysit at 1169 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 5: least one night a week, recently more so that James 1170 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 5: and Sarah can have a night off. By the way, 1171 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 5: this comes from feedback Forsaken one zero zero nine And 1172 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 5: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 1173 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 5: the Orange slash Okay Storytime Subredd and I'm Savannah. 1174 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,959 Speaker 6: I'm Dakota and where he had. 1175 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 5: To give some good advice goofy. But we don't have 1176 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 5: all the answers. We don only tell you what we 1177 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 5: would do in this situation. So let us know what 1178 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 5: you would do in the commons. As Opie says, I 1179 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 5: agreed because I love both of them as well as 1180 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 5: their kids, and I know they've both been having a 1181 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 5: rough go. Since the youngest was born, Sarah has been 1182 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,800 Speaker 5: going through pretty severe postpartum depression. It took the first 1183 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 5: three months for her to realize and admit that she 1184 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 5: wasn't doing okay and needed more help. That's when I 1185 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 5: started helping out significantly more. When Sarah and I hang 1186 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 5: out now it mostly consists of ME going to their 1187 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 5: place to help her clean, cook, and take care of 1188 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 5: the kids, so base sickly babysitting, but with Sarah there too. 1189 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 5: James has mentioned how hard it's been on the relationship 1190 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 5: between the two of them because he really wants to 1191 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 5: help her but doesn't know how. He has a pretty 1192 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,479 Speaker 5: good dad and helps when he's home, but he works 1193 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 5: at least sixty hours a week, if not more, so 1194 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 5: most of the time everything falls to Sarah, who's a 1195 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 5: stay at home mom. Anyway, I love the kids and 1196 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 5: I'm glad I can help out, but it's getting to 1197 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 5: be too much for me now. Sarah brings the kids 1198 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 5: over to my house usually three nights a week, and 1199 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 5: I go over to hers one or two nights. Obviously, 1200 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,479 Speaker 5: I understand it's a lot harder on them, but they're 1201 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 5: the parents. James could work less and they'd still be 1202 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 5: more than okay financially, and my mom offered to help 1203 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 5: them any time they need. The reason they've refused is 1204 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 5: because Sarah doesn't feel close enough to the rest of 1205 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 5: our family to be honest about her postpartum or to 1206 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 5: accept help from them, and James doesn't want to hear 1207 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 5: that I told you so from our mom. 1208 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 2: Okay, well, guess what. You gotta suck that up. You 1209 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 2: gotta suck that all the way, all way up. 1210 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's now it's only falling on these people. 1211 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 6: You're literally five days a week. You've turned ope to 1212 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 6: the babysitter. 1213 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and even if it's two times at your place, 1214 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 2: it's like, still, that's a ton. Let op is building 1215 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 2: their life. Let your mom, let your mom be grandma. 1216 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 2: Let your mom be grandma and help. Yeah, if there's 1217 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 2: not any real reasons other than oh, yeah, she might 1218 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 2: be a little annoying, like come on, yeah. 1219 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,479 Speaker 5: They've only accepted my help because Sarah is my best 1220 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 5: friend and she would have told me about everything, whether 1221 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 5: James was involved or not. Yesterday I mentioned to Sarah 1222 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 5: that three days a week is definitely my maximum, and 1223 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,720 Speaker 5: I can't continue doing three days every week. It probably 1224 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 5: sounds stupid to many people, but I'm child free for 1225 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 5: a reason and didn't plan on taking care of a 1226 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 5: baby three days a week for the last two months. 1227 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 6: Literally doesn't sound stupid at all. 1228 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it doesn't sound stupid. It's so much work. 1229 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 6: Sorry if I sound stupid, but I don't think I 1230 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,319 Speaker 6: want to commit three days of the week every life, 1231 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 6: three days of life, three days of the week for 1232 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 6: the rest of my life to raise your kids that 1233 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 6: aren't mine. I can't do this forever. 1234 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 5: Especially since I do have a full time job of 1235 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,399 Speaker 5: my own. Sarah said, totally understandable, and I appreciate any 1236 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 5: days off. I really didn't think anything of it. We 1237 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 5: hung out for a few more hours than I went home. 1238 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 5: About two hours later, I got a call from James 1239 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 5: freaking out and screaming at me, He screamed, I can't 1240 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 5: believe you'd say that to Sarah. You, of all people, 1241 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 5: know how fragile she is right now, so it's really 1242 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 5: unfair of you to make her feel guilty when asked 1243 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 5: to spend time with your nieces. I. 1244 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 6: Ah, you can't pull the ask to spend time with 1245 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 6: your nieces. That's not what you're asking. 1246 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not asking to just come over and hang 1247 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 2: out see your nieces every once in a while. 1248 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like, fully take care of our children for us. Yeah. 1249 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 5: I was shocked. I asked him what he was talking 1250 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 5: about and if he'd lost his mind. He said Sarah 1251 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 5: told him what I'd said, and that I was just 1252 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 5: trying to guilt trip her into never asking for help again. 1253 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 5: I told him that wasn't my intention at all. I 1254 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 5: just wanted to make them aware that I couldn't be 1255 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 5: watching the kids this much in the long term. I'd 1256 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 5: planned on telling James the same. It just happened to 1257 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,439 Speaker 5: come up when Sarah and I were talking. I asked 1258 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 5: him why he couldn't work a bit less or just 1259 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 5: swallow his pride and ask mom for help. He said 1260 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 5: his girlfriend being depressed wasn't a good enough reason to 1261 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 5: ask for fewer hours, and it would hurt his chances 1262 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 5: at a promotion. He wouldn't ask Mom because she told 1263 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 5: him when Sarah first got pregnant that he wasn't ready 1264 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 5: responsible or mature enough to be a father, and he 1265 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 5: wouldn't prove her right by asking for help. I told him, 1266 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but there's a reason I don't have kids 1267 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 5: of my own. I'm not interested in parenting. I also 1268 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 5: clarified that I wasn't telling them i'd never baby said, 1269 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 5: just that I could not continue doing it so frequently 1270 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 5: because I'm burnt out. James was still very upset, continuously 1271 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 5: calling me selfish and saying I should be grateful to 1272 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 5: have this opportunity to spend time with his kids, since 1273 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 5: I'll never find a man to truly love me enough 1274 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 5: to even want kids with me. 1275 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 2: Wow, dude, not how you talk to someone you're trying 1276 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 2: to get you to do a solid. 1277 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 5: I can't the like. I feel like that happens like 1278 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 5: nine times out of ten. Like people they like they 1279 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 5: want you to do something and then they end up 1280 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 5: like insulting you and then hoping that you'll still do it. 1281 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 5: And it's like now, I won I hate you, and 1282 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 5: two shut up. I'm not doing anything for you ever. 1283 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 2: Again, it's the crazy vibe coming at someone like, yeah, 1284 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 2: well you're just so like broken and ugly and disgusting. 1285 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 2: No one will ever want to have a family with 1286 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 2: you anyway. So this is really your only shot of 1287 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 2: pretending to have children that you don't want. By the 1288 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 2: way that Opie has said, I don't even want this. 1289 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. Also, watch my kids for three days. 1290 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 2: And they never and they didn't say they were gonna stop. 1291 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 2: They just said I'm not doing three days ago. 1292 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like I just you know, and it's. 1293 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 6: Hard at this act of this reaction, I'm going down 1294 00:59:59,320 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 6: to zero. 1295 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 2: After this reaction, I'd be like, well, I was ready 1296 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 2: to still do like maybe once or twice a week, 1297 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 2: you know, when as needed. But like, after this reaction, 1298 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 2: I think you just need to find full time childcare. 1299 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, because I'm not going to help you, because it's. 1300 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 5: Not like Opie, like you know, obviously they want to 1301 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 5: help out. Ohpi, he's helping out as much as she can, 1302 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 5: but also she has her life, Like why does her 1303 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 5: her life need to be on hold because you had 1304 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 5: children and can't take care of them like, it's just 1305 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 5: that that doesn't make sense some things not computing This 1306 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 5: especially hurt because I've had a lot of issues with 1307 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 5: romantic relationships and a lot of insecurity about feeling unlovable, 1308 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 5: which he's aware of. James very frequently says life's about choices. 1309 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 5: You've got to think them through when anyone, especially me, 1310 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 5: talks events about frustrations in life, like relationships or job issues. 1311 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 5: So I was so frustrated and upset that I decided 1312 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 5: to throw it back at him. I told him life's 1313 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 5: about choices. It's not my problem that you didn't thinks 1314 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 5: all the way through, then hung up. 1315 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 6: Oh he honestly props to you, delicious. 1316 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 5: It has now been a week since I've heard from 1317 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 5: either of them. My mother and sister have told me 1318 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 5: I'm in the wrong because I don't have kids of 1319 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 5: my own, so there's no reason I can't watch my nieces. 1320 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,439 Speaker 5: I'm just so frustrated and confused. I really didn't think 1321 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 5: this would become such a huge problem. I do feel 1322 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 5: a bit bad about how harsh I was, but I 1323 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 5: also don't think what I said is entirely wrong, and 1324 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 5: what James said really aren't me He should have known 1325 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 5: that work in the amount that he does would be 1326 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 5: a problem with two kids, and thoughts of other options 1327 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 5: besides just relying on me all the time? Am I 1328 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 5: the a hole? There is an edit. Thank you all 1329 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 5: for your replies. I do appreciate the outside perspective. I'd 1330 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 5: like to answer and clarify some things I've seen in 1331 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 5: the comments. 1332 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,000 Speaker 6: And give a mini update. 1333 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 5: Where is Sarah's family in this? Unfortunately, her family is 1334 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 5: pretty awful and harmful, so she has no contact with them. 1335 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 5: I don't think they even know she has kids. 1336 01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 6: Oh wow, Oh yeah, that's a bad fan. 1337 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. Why don't my mom and sister volunteer their own help? Mom, 1338 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 5: just like James, is incredibly stubborn, so she says she 1339 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 5: will not offer help on her own. They have to 1340 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 5: ask her for it. Sister does have a full time job, 1341 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 5: a kid of her own, plus she lives about an 1342 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 5: hour away. A few comments mentioned that my sister and 1343 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 5: mom think less of me because I chose to be 1344 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 5: child free. That is absolutely correct. I've known for as 1345 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 5: long as I can recall that I have no interest 1346 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 5: in being a mother, and have been told, especially by 1347 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 5: my mother, that even if I were to find a man, 1348 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 5: I'll never know a truly pure love if I don't 1349 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 5: have kids. She definitely thinks it's a selfish choice, which 1350 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 5: I just can't comprehend. But it's a battle I've chosen 1351 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 5: to ignore. Why have I let things get to this 1352 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 5: level with them? I truly was just trying to help 1353 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 5: because I love them both and my nieces. I had 1354 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 5: no clue this would become such a big issue. I 1355 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 5: just wanted to set a boundary and had no clue 1356 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,919 Speaker 5: would backfire like this. Why don't I tell my mother 1357 01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 5: about Sarah's PPD, I really don't. That's my place. I've 1358 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 5: had many mental health issues of my own. In the 1359 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 5: first few times I told Mom, she was less than 1360 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 5: helpful or supportive. I did tell her what James said 1361 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 5: to me, and she agreed that it was uncalled for. 1362 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 5: I also explained the details of the situation. It turns 1363 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 5: out when James went whining to her, he left out 1364 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 5: a lot that makes sense. Why don't they hire a sitter? 1365 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,439 Speaker 5: James refuses because Sarah is a stay at home mom, 1366 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 5: and he thinks there is no reason she shouldn't be 1367 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 5: able to do the things needed. Sarah's unwilling because when 1368 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 5: their oldest was about six months and she was ready 1369 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 5: to go back to work. They did hire nanny, which 1370 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 5: lasted about one week before they discovered she was very neglectful. 1371 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 5: That's when Sarah chose to quit her job. 1372 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 6: Got dow what's best for the actual children that aren't yours? 1373 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 6: You know? 1374 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, whatever, I think that, Op. You're living your life 1375 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 5: and you deserve to live it the way that you want. 1376 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 5: You chose the life that you're living. You like, just 1377 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 5: how your brother is saying, like, you know, your choice's 1378 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 5: lead to know your life or something like that, like, yeah, 1379 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 5: these are the choices that I made, and so you 1380 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 5: also have to respect that. Like, just because they're not 1381 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 5: the choices that you maybe want me to make, that 1382 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,439 Speaker 5: doesn't give them less like significance. 1383 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 2: Right. The thing that's best for the kids is probably 1384 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 2: to have their parents more actively in their lives, as 1385 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 2: well as not having someone who's just getting burnt out 1386 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 2: and doesn't want to take care of the kids anyway. 1387 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, take care of your kids all week, but whatever. 1388 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 5: It's just there's there's a lot of different solutions here, 1389 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 5: and they're just choosing to just blame it on Op 1390 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 5: because they don't want to accept that they couldn't handle it, 1391 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 5: that they can't do this, which I I get it. 1392 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 5: It's hard. 1393 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 7: It's hard, but like. 1394 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 5: You can't just blame it on other people who literally 1395 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 5: had nothing to do with the birth. 1396 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,920 Speaker 6: Of your child. Blame it on the goose. 1397 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 5: Update number two. I did learn today that both my 1398 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 5: mother and James were we're actually unaware of how frequently 1399 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 5: I was watching the kids. Sarah said I was only 1400 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 5: helping about one or two days a week, most of 1401 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 5: the time, with an occasional evening. She did not inform 1402 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 5: them of the amount she drops them off at my house, 1403 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 5: which is usually mid afternoon two or three pm. James 1404 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 5: doesn't get home from work until seven pm most nights, 1405 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,560 Speaker 5: and Sarah usually picks them up by six, so I 1406 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 5: guess that makes sense that he really didn't know. I 1407 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 5: honestly just didn't even consider that possibility. I spoke with 1408 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 5: Sarah today and she was very apologetic. She explained that 1409 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 5: she was embarrassed because she doesn't work and feels like 1410 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 5: she has no reason to ask for outside help. I 1411 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 5: told her I could understand that feeling, but it doesn't 1412 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 5: make things okay, and she absolutely needs to get into 1413 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 5: therapy like yesterday she said she did book an appointment 1414 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 5: for herself for next week. 1415 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 2: Okay, good. We ended in a really good place there. 1416 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 2: Turns out there was a fib involved. There was some 1417 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 2: fibbing involved, and that was why people were so out 1418 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,440 Speaker 2: of order. But I would still need to have a 1419 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 2: conversation with James about being like, Hey, so you said 1420 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 2: all that stuff about me. What the what the heck 1421 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 2: is wrong with you for that? 1422 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 5: So because you can't take care of your wife and 1423 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 5: your kids, I get blamed and you can say crappy 1424 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 5: things to me. That's nice of you as a brother. 1425 01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Why why are you talking to me like that? 1426 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 2: Get out of here. 1427 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would still bring that up because I feel 1428 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 5: like that's that's a whole, entirely different issue that he 1429 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 5: thinks that he can speak to you like that and 1430 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 5: he can't. He has no no authority to do that. 1431 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 6: I need I needed James apology. 1432 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 5: I needed James pology. 1433 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 7: And that's the end of this story.