1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting next to my partner in crime, 3 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: West hod Kuwitz. Were coming to you here from our 4 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field West. Were another day closer to 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Sunday night football at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City Packers 6 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs in a big Week eight showdown. And 7 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: as we stand right now, we're taping this episode on 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Thursday morning, before the Packers hit the practice field on Thursday, 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: before the Chiefs hit the practice field on Thursday. There's 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty with what's going on with injuries 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: to some key players. Here. Patrick Mahomes, the m v 12 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: P quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. He actually was 13 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: listed as a limited participant in the Chiefs Wednesday practice. 14 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: He made some throws, he was involved a little bit 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: in practice. They're leaving the door open that he could 16 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: potentially play on Sunday night. And on the Packers side 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: of things, Davante Adams went through stretching in warmups with 18 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: the team for the first time since his turf toe injury. 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: Now he did not ultimately participate in practice, but just 20 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: wondering maybe what kind of a sign this is. Does 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: this mean the door is open for Davante Adams to 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: play on Sunday night? A lot of uncertainty, but what 23 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: do you make of it right now? Well, I will 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: say this, the door is definitely there for Davante Adams 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: because last week Mark Quisvelde, Scantling and Geronimo Elison didn't 26 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: practice at all and then there they were on Sunday 27 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: playing a fifty four combined snaps that matchups. So I 28 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't discount anything at this juncture in terms of Adams. Now, 29 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things they have to weigh out, 30 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: much like with Allison and Valdes Scantling. I'm guessing it 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: is something on Sunday morning they'll take a look at 32 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: and they'll exactly where he's at and if he could 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: potentially go. The thing that's interesting about the Mahomes thing. 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: I tackled this an insider inbox a little bit on 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Thursday morning. This one's peculiar to me on a number 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: of different levels. If this would if they be playing 37 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. I totally get the gamesmanship. I 38 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: totally understand that, you know what you're trying to do right. 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: Is there some kind of subterfuse your gamesmanship going on here? 40 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: I think that's what a lot of people are wondering 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: and I and my thought is, if there is, I 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: don't see why what it? What's the value in it? 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: If there isn't, I don't see what's the value in 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: pushing out a quarterback that just had a dislocated need. 45 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: That's your franchise that's gonna be up for a contract 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: extension soon for the sake of of wanting to push it, 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, in nine days or whatever, it would be 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: removed from that injury. That doesn't make a whole lot 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: of sense to me. I'm not going to coach their 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: team though, I'm not gonna, you know, look at this 51 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: situation and try to act like I know what's going on. 52 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: If they feel like he's healthy enough to go after 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: and throw passes. Certainly, the reports were that there was 54 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: no ligament damage, you know, so so coudas them for that. 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: But man, there's a big thing and play here for 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. They are looking at Super Bowl. 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: There's a chance that this wouldn't just be the only 58 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: matchup between the Packers and Chiefs. So I just I 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: look at the Blong game here, and Matt Moore looked 60 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: okay last week. And if you feel like he can 61 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: guide the offense and give you a chance to win, 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't see the reason you'd push Mahomes early other 63 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: than this week. You just want to create a little 64 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: bit more chaos in the mind of the Packers. Yeah, 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: and I wonder if that that may be what's going 66 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: on here. But at the same time, if you're a 67 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: Packers fan, I think you look at this as Hey, 68 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: if Patrick Mahomes is maybe going to be back sooner 69 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: than later, but if it's not this Sunday, does that 70 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: mean he might be on the field the following Sunday 71 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: when the Chiefs are playing the Vikings. So there's a lot, 72 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of um ramifications here going on 73 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: with this with regards to Adams and the Packers. Though 74 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: here's here's a question for you. Now. Obviously, as I say, 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: the Packers haven't hit the practice field on Thursday, they 76 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: also have another practice on Friday. Adams has been out 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: for multiple weeks. It's not quite the same situation as 78 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: MVS and Alison, who basically just missed one week of practice, 79 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: they got them ready to go, and they played on Sunday. 80 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur said on Wednesday after practice that the decision 81 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: on Adams could go all the way up to game time. 82 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: What I'm wondering is, with missing multiple weeks, if Adams 83 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: doesn't practice at all this week, would he really be 84 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: ready to get out there and play. Or when a 85 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: guy has been out for a stretch of time, does 86 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: he need to at least see some practice reps. I'm 87 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: not sure, And this is Matt la Fleury is the 88 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: first time head coach. We always could get a feel 89 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: for things with Mike McCarthy a little bit. In these instances, 90 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: we really don't know how la Fleur is going to 91 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: handle us. So that's just another element of the uncertainty 92 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: as the week goes along. The answer to your question 93 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: is whether or not Adams can one get out of 94 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: his stance explosively and if you can get out of 95 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: his breaks, So you don't necessarily need to be in 96 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: an in game setting to know that. If you can 97 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: actually simulate that practice or in a you know, a 98 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: rehab or walk through with some of the trainers to 99 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: get a feel for that, that's gonna be a Davante 100 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: Adams decision. That's gonna be him knowing his body. Because 101 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: if you remember Mike from the very first interview he 102 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: did about this, he wants to come back when he's 103 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: fully healed, when he knows he can help the football team. 104 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers are three no without Davante Adams. 105 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: Do they win those three games more decisively with him? Sure? 106 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: But they still the ends justify the means, And I 107 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: think he understands that they need him for the long 108 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: run here. So if it needs to take another week, 109 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: you'd be smart with it. But I'll tell you what. 110 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: If he can go out there and he feels like 111 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: he's Davante Adams and can do what he needs to do, 112 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna be I think really the biggest test for 113 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: him him at least being able to go out and 114 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: do the stretching, because we've seen it in practice the 115 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: last few weeks. He's done a little more than just 116 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: walking around to at least make that advancement. I think 117 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: bodes well that if even if it isn't this Sunday night, 118 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: Davante Adams is getting closer that return of the field. Yeah, well, 119 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: elsewhere on the injury report for the Packers UH safety 120 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: Darnell Savage, the rookie first round pick out of Maryland. 121 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: He was back on the practice field for the first 122 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: time since his ankle injury from the Dallas game. Now, 123 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: the Packers had a very light workout on Wednesday. They 124 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: were not in helmets, not in pads. It was pretty 125 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: much a walk through speed type of practice. They did 126 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: some drills, UH position drills that were a little closer 127 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: to full speed, but then the bulk of the other 128 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: work was walked through in terms of installing the game plan. 129 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Savage was listed as a full participant. I guess we'll 130 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: see what happens on Thursday, assuming they're putting pads on 131 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: for a more full speed practice later today. But this 132 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: is an interesting development here because, um, we've seen some 133 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: issues obviously with the big plays being allowed by the 134 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: Packers defense. And I'm one who maintains it's never just 135 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: one person. But you know, guys on defense have to 136 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: have to do their jobs and you have to make 137 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: it work. But if you get Savage back, that could 138 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: change the look of things here on the defensive side 139 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: of the ball. The one position that's been hit hardest 140 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: with injuries to this point of the season, seven weeks 141 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: in is safety you already lost, you know, Raven Green, 142 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: who was the primary backup to both of those guys 143 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: and had a really big role as that hybrid linebacker. 144 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: So he's out of the equation. Then you lose Savage 145 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: right when he's you know, looks like he's really coming on, 146 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: flying all over the field, making plays, you know, deflecting passes, 147 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: hitting hard. Uh. He seemed to really be building that 148 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: rapport with Adan Amos back there, you know, is that 149 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: one to punch and then he goes out of the equation. 150 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: I think Will Redman has really stepped up, but there 151 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: was even some domino effects with how they've been able 152 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: to utilize Amos without Green and without Savage. So if 153 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: you can get him back in the fold, I think 154 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: that goes a long way for how this defense defends 155 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. And this is gonna be 156 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: interesting again. We're gonna have to see how Thursday's padded work, 157 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: what it looks like, and how this team is gonna 158 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, who's going to be available, who isn't when 159 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: you get into that type of practice. But the fact 160 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: that you know, the walkthrough was what it was, but 161 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: they did individual periods of fact that he was out 162 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: there and he was able to do all of it. 163 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: It at the very least tells you that they feel 164 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: after bole that the ankle can handle that type of exercise, 165 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: that type of work, and you know they'll be smart 166 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: with it and hopefully get him back in the folds 167 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: here on Sunday night. Yeah. And another guy who has 168 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: returned to practice for the Packers, young tight end Robert Tanyan. 169 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: He's missed the last couple of games with a hip injury. 170 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: He injured the hip in the Dallas game, same game 171 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: that Darnell Savage got hurt. And we've seen obviously the 172 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: production from the tight ends over the last couple of games. 173 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: They've been worked in to everything that's going on on offense. 174 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: Certainly with Adam's being out. You get Robert Tanyan back 175 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: in the mix here with what Jimmy Graham has been 176 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: doing lately. And Marcedes Louis Lewis had kind of a 177 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: quiet game against the Raiders, but we know what he 178 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: did against the Detroit Lions in the Monday night game. 179 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: You start to round out that position group a little bit. 180 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: And and just as much as that position has been 181 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: involved in what's going on here, it could really get 182 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: interesting if the group as a whole is back to 183 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: full strength. Well, Tanyan is the hybrid, right, I mean, 184 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: he's the cross between your Graham and your and your 185 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Louis and learning from both of those guys. It was 186 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: a story I wrote during training camp. He wants to 187 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: be the past catcher that Graham is, He wants to 188 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: be the blocker that Lewis is. Those are the goals, 189 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: Those are the perfection that he's trying to attain and 190 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: for him to continually improve over the last two and 191 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: a half years now with Green Bay, I think really 192 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: speaks to him and his maturity level and understanding where 193 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: he needs to get to as a former receiver at 194 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: that position. Robert Tonyan made a phenomenal catch and going 195 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: back to I believe it was the Dallas game if 196 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: I remember that, Yeah, it was that sideline play, kind 197 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: of an off schedule busted play and uh and he 198 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: turns his route up the sideline, you know, and on 199 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: the fly adjustment and Rogers throws it out there and 200 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: uh and he leaps and not only makes the grab, 201 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: but then gets both feet and bounds. I think it 202 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: was the play that he heard his hip on the 203 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: basically the way he landed. He tried to gut it 204 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: out and and play some more snaps. But then at 205 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: the end of that drive, when um, he was throwing 206 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: a block when the Packers were getting close to the 207 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: end zone there, that ended up being his last play 208 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: he had to He was limping and he came out 209 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: kind of holding that hip. Yeah. I mean, and to 210 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I didn't get the big, you know, 211 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: brunt of the Jamachael Finley era. I got kind of 212 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: the end of it in terms of the time I 213 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: covered this team, and the end was very up and 214 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: down with what you were getting from him week to week. 215 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: But I think with this particular group, what I like 216 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: about it is you're seeing it probably is the deepest 217 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: group the Packers have had here at least during my time. 218 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: And you know, covering this locker room in that Marcedes 219 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: Lewis looks much more comfortable in this offense. We'll talk 220 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: about it in a second. But Jimmy Graham, the way 221 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: that he stepped up in that ballgame, you know, kind 222 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: of a little bit of a must need, must have 223 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: type performance. From him, especially in some critical off schedule plays. 224 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: And then you have Jay Sternberger now who's coming off 225 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: of injured reserve here, being one of the two that 226 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: they designated to return. So with that group, there's a 227 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: lot of potential in it in in every single one 228 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: of those guys. If even when you throw if you 229 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: want to throw Evan Bayliss in there, they all bring 230 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: something different to the party. So it's gonna be interesting 231 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: here if you can get Tanying back, get back into 232 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: more of your two tight end sets. Because one thing 233 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: we really haven't seen during Tanyan's injury, Packers don't play 234 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham and Mercedes Lewis on the field together hardly 235 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: at all, Like they like, they script their stuff differently 236 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: for them. Tanya will play with both of them, Yeah, 237 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: but it's very rarely the two veterans together. So this 238 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be something that I think if you get 239 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: Tanya back in the fold and you get Sternberger maybe 240 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: being able to contribute down the line here, that could 241 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: be a position group that the Packers really lean on 242 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. Yeah, well, where 243 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: do you think things are with Jimmy Graham Because Aaron 244 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers very effusive in his praise of the game that 245 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: Graham had against the Raiders this past weekend. In some 246 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: of the games leading up to that, there was production 247 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: from Graham, but also some missed opportunities that he'd be 248 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: the first one to wish that he had him back obviously. 249 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: Do you think what we saw against the Oakland Raiders 250 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: four catches for sixty five yards plus a touchdown? Do 251 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: you think what we saw is the beginning of something 252 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: here with Jimmy Graham moving forward? Is this is? Uh? 253 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: Is this the kind of game that gets a veteran 254 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: who maybe hasn't produced the way he's the way he 255 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: would have wanted to through his first season and a 256 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: half in Green Bay? Is this the kind of game 257 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: and and the kind of vote of confidence from the 258 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: quarterback that gets the guy going. I think so, I 259 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: really do. Because the thing is, and I've said this 260 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: to you before, they don't need Jimmy Graham to be 261 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven Jimmy Graham. That isn't why he's here. Uh, 262 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: they don't need Aaron Rodgers, you know. I mean, everybody evolves, 263 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: Everybody adapts in terms of what they were years ago. 264 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: To what they are today, and Graham plays a position 265 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: that has had a lot of success into the thirties. 266 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: Look at Marcedes Lewis still doing it in your thirteen now, um. 267 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: But they all do in their own ways, right. I 268 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: thought that this game was a perfect, you know, symbol 269 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: of what Graham can bring to this offense when they 270 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: don't have Davante Adams, when they have to spread the 271 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: ball around. Because as Roger said, and I believe it 272 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: was to your question, Mike, there was only one of 273 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: those catches that he had where the play was really 274 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: strictly designed for him. Everything else sort of came on 275 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: on feel, on instinct and being able to just play 276 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: the drive out, play the you know, the series out 277 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: and he had some critical moments in that football game. 278 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: The tight end position. I one thing I really liked 279 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: when Graham spoke to the media on Wednesday night that 280 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: he said is that you know, his opportunities will come 281 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: and basically paraphrase him somewhat, it's the nature of his position. 282 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm a tight end. Tight Ends just don't very very 283 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: rarely have those ten catch a d R days that 284 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: like Davante Adams had. They are more economical there's gonna 285 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: be days where a tight end has a good game 286 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: but he only catches two passes for twenty yards if 287 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: he's doing all the other things that are required of 288 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: him as a blocker underneath being able to be an 289 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: outlet for the quarterback. Graham had some of those opportunities, 290 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, and unfortunately some of them couldn't be converted. 291 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: But where he's at right now, I think that this 292 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: game could be a big boost of confidence, not that 293 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: he necessarily needed it, but just a reminder to everyone that, Okay, 294 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: this is why the Packers signed him, and this is 295 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: what the element and dimension he can bring to this offense. 296 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: Because Mike, you know, as much has been made about 297 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: Graham and the decision to bring him back, you're not 298 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: going to find good tight end talent available every year 299 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: in free agency. And we've talked at nauseum about how 300 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: difficult it is the draft a guy right away and 301 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: have him play right away at that position. It's difficult. 302 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: So I just think the resurgence that you've seen from 303 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: Lewis and in some of these plays that Graham has made, 304 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's his third touchdown already this season. That 305 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: gives I think it should give Packer fans hope that, Okay, 306 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: this is a unit that when you turn to it, 307 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: much like it did against Chicago in Week one, it 308 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: can produce for you, and it can be an outlet 309 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers when he needs it to be well. 310 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham certainly has two big believers in his corner 311 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: in Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers, and I think he's 312 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: going to continue to be involved in this offense. And 313 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: if and if he can and if he can continue 314 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: to cash in on those opportunities that come his way, 315 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: this Packer's offense is going to be better for it. 316 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: One other topic I want to get to today West 317 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: before we go. I mentioned earlier in the show the 318 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: Packers had a very light work out on Wednesday. They 319 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: really just put on shorts and helmets or sweats and 320 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: help I mean sorry, shorts and jerseys or sweats and jerseys. 321 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: They did not even have their helmets on. Very unusual 322 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: kind of a Wednesday practice, especially coming off of a 323 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: Sunday noon game, and and practice was even pushed back 324 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: a couple of hours later in the afternoon on Wednesday 325 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: from what has been the norm. So far. But I 326 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: was thinking about this when I was at practice when 327 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: the media was allowed to be at the early portion 328 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: of practice yesterday, and then even when I was driving 329 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: into work this morning, that you know, we saw through 330 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: through O T A S, through training camp, now through 331 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: the regular season, the times that Matt Lafleur has really 332 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: backed off physically on the practice demands on the players. 333 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: And there's a couple of things I think that are 334 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: worth pointing out here. One, he's shone so far that 335 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: he's confident in the players that if they mentally get 336 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: the game planed down and they are locked in mentally 337 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: on what's going on in the game plan, he doesn't 338 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: need to necessarily see all the physical reps during the 339 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: week in practice to be confident in what they're taking 340 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: into the game on Sunday. So that's one. The other 341 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: is that when I think about how this season has 342 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: gone for the Packers, you know, seven games, you're six 343 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: and one. I would argue that five of the seven 344 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: games so far this year, the Packers have clearly, without question, 345 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: been the better team in the fourth quarter of five 346 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: of the seven games. The two I would say they 347 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: haven't been were Philadelphia and Dallas. They weren't able to 348 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: pull it out against Philadelphia, and it worked out in 349 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: Dallas because they built a thirty one to three lead 350 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: and they were able to hang on even though the 351 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys were getting the better of it in the fourth quarter. 352 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: But when you're the better team five out of seven 353 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: weeks in the fourth quarter, that's gonna lead to a 354 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: lot of wins. And I just starting to wonder if 355 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, all of this is part of the bigger picture. 356 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: We've We've seen the back off physically and practice. We've 357 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: seen the Packers be the better team in the fourth quarter. Hey, 358 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: there are a million ways to get this done. As 359 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: a head coach in the NFL, guys over decades have 360 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: done it all kinds of different ways. And one games 361 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: and one playoff games and one Super Bowls. This is 362 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: this is an interesting approach that Matt Lafleur is taking 363 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: in so far. You can't argue with the results. Well, 364 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: you certainly can't argue with that absolutely. I mean six 365 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: and one is six and one, however you get to it. 366 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: But what I like about this one, I think you 367 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: make a great point that when you look at how 368 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: fresh the Packers have been in some of these fourth 369 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 1: quarter situations and how they've been able to close out games. 370 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: You do wonder about the preparation aspect of it. You 371 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: wonder about the conditioning aspect, and certainly both of those 372 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: have been on point. The other thing I've wondered too, 373 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: and it wasn't totally applicable to the Thursday night week, 374 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: but it's definitely applicable to a week like tonight. Excuse me. 375 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: You know, a process like this week is at you 376 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: have the Wednesday practice and if you get the mental 377 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: side of this thing down, if you get the game plan, 378 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: you get a good grasp for that maximizing not only 379 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: that time for guys to get their bodies back, because 380 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: as we've seen, the Packers injury port is still pretty big, 381 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: but to have them ready for that Thursday padded work. 382 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: If you can maximize that actual those padded sessions by 383 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: maybe you know, taking off the gas a little bit 384 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: on Wednesdays. Is there an intrinsic benefit to that as well, 385 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: because there's so many times where I mean, Mike Karthie 386 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: would talk about all the time, like Thursday, that's your 387 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: work day, that's where you you know, you really get 388 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: a feel for your football team. Where things are at 389 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: and how they're going to play. What I like about 390 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: the Flour's theory here is that there's a lot of 391 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: emphasis on the classroom. You know, they have the crick 392 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: over here where they can go through stuff and you 393 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: know see it on the screen. There walk through area 394 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: in and a a video area. So if you have 395 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: and you check all those boxes, and maybe you don't 396 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: have as many reps, you know in those non contact 397 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: Wednesday practices the traditional sense, does it allow you to 398 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: maximize not only a performance on Thursday or performance in 399 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: a Sunday. I think that's something you have to track 400 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: the whole season. But if this season goes the direction 401 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: the Packers are hoping it will now five games above five, 402 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: you start to wonder if they really did, you know, 403 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: find something. Well. It's interesting because you and I both 404 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: work with a couple of gentlemen, Larry McCarron and John Koon. 405 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking about who every time something like this happens, 406 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: whether it was a day that Matt Lafleur backed off 407 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: in training camp, maybe they didn't go in pads but 408 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: got in another you know, shorter nonpadded work, or a 409 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: day like yesterday with no helmets on a Wednesday practice 410 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: and kind of a walkthrough thing. Those guys will sit 411 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: there and laugh and say, Man, if they were doing this, 412 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'd still be playing, you know. But it's 413 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: just it's it's interesting because because the culture and the 414 00:19:54,680 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: science and the research and everything behind how these coaches, 415 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: particularly younger coaches now in the NFL, are doing this, 416 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: it's it's changing. It's a very it's a very different 417 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: environment in terms of in terms of the way coaches 418 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: feel is the best way to prepare their team both 419 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: physically and mentally to get ready to play on Sunday. 420 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: And and I'll say this too, I mean Mike McCarthy 421 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: back before the the cb A change of two thousand eleven, 422 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was one of the coaches through two thousand 423 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: eight nine ten, he was one of those who was 424 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: backing off on the two days and training camp. He's 425 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: only doing two days, you know, maybe two days a week, 426 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: and then eventually backed off even I think even before 427 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: the entire change with the CBA, he might have been 428 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: doing one to a day a week if that. So 429 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: this is a this is an evolution of process that's 430 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: been that that's been going on for a while now 431 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: and it just still though continues to change now that 432 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: we're seeing how things are going during the season as 433 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: well as what's changed the summers in training camp. And 434 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: there's two things that all this is predicated on, right, 435 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: two p words, preparation and professionalism. And you know, to 436 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: single out of guy like Brian Bulaga for example, blog 437 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: has taken probably a few of reps as he's taken 438 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: in practices his entire career now, but it works for 439 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: them because of his preparation as professionalism. A lot of 440 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: the reasons why the Packers can get away with this 441 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: type of stuff is that, you know, for many of 442 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: these guys, probably honestly, like everybody that's been on this 443 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: roster since April, they've built up that equity. They put 444 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: in the hours in the weight room, they put in 445 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: the hours in the training room and in recovery and 446 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: doing everything to maximize their body. Look at Blake Martinez 447 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: remember in April when we're talking about him, you know, 448 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: shedding seven pounds of fat and adding fifteen pounds of 449 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: muscle and all this stuff. When you are in that 450 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: good of physical condition just naturally independent of the game 451 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: of football, it allows you to be ready for Sundays, 452 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: which allows you to back off of some of the 453 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: physical stuff that you have to do back in the 454 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: Larry mccaren days to prepare your body physically for that. 455 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times when you talk about 456 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: the six game preseasons and you know on how long 457 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: training camps would be wild that because they had to 458 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: get guys back into physical shape, not just football shape. 459 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: So yeah, seeing the evolution of this thing well passed 460 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: just the you know, salt tablets to gatorade and things 461 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: like that. I mean the overall, Uh, there there's a 462 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: lot that we know that we didn't once know. But 463 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: there's also the aspect of it that these guys take 464 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: care of their business and handle their business. And one 465 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: of the benefits of that is that, Okay, maybe on 466 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: the wends that you don't have to push yourself as 467 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: physically hard as you traditionally would because you know, I 468 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: kind of already have that hay in the bar. Yeah. Well, 469 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: and let's be honest here, the the the get real 470 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: moment in all of this is that the players have 471 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: rewarded Matt Lafleur for his approach because they've gotten the 472 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: results on Sunday. And that's ultimately the bottom line here 473 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: because it's it's about wins and losses. And Matt Lafleur 474 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: is comfortable with how he's doing things because he's seeing 475 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: the response and the results that he's too in the game. 476 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: And I think that's a big part of it, because yeah, 477 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: if you're one in six and you're not practicing on 478 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: a Wednesday, then people start to ask questions, you know, 479 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: when when you've had the results that the Packers have 480 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: had here and they've won these I think that's a 481 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: great point you make. When you win this many close 482 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: games down the wire, you have that mental toughness in 483 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: that preparation. The more preparation, the more prepared team is 484 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: gonna win nine times out of ten, and for the 485 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: Packer's sake, in six or seven occasions so far, they've 486 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: been that squad. All right. Well, with that, we'll call 487 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be 488 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: sure to follow all of our coverage of the team 489 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,239 Speaker 1: on Packers dot com, Subscribe to us, like us on 490 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: iTunes and other podcast services. On Twitter. He's at West Hot, 491 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. 492 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, everybody, See you next time.