Speaker 1: Who Do Who. Special announcement alert, I repeat special announcement alert.
Speaker 1: If you live in the city of San Francisco, California,
Speaker 1: we are doing a big, jam packed Stradio Lab live
Speaker 1: show on Friday, January seventeenth at Cobbs Comedy Club as
Speaker 1: part of SF's Sketch Fest. We cannot wait to see you, guys.
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Speaker 1: We cannot wait to see you. We can't wait to
Speaker 1: be in San Francisco in January and escape the frigid
Speaker 1: New York cold and also I guess the very warm
Speaker 1: Los Angeles weather for Sam and we can't wait to
Speaker 1: see you January seventeenth at Cobbs Comedy Club, part of
Speaker 1: SF Sketch Fest. See you there and enjoy the show.
Speaker 2: Podcast starts now. What is up everyone around the globe?
Speaker 2: And welcome to Tradia Lab, the first one of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's right.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Happy New Year, George. Wow, god, I
Speaker 2: love when we pretend no.
Speaker 1: It's so amazing. And I wonder what the world. I
Speaker 1: wonder what the world looks like. And we have no
Speaker 1: idea right now.
Speaker 3: We have no idea. We are in mid December, not
Speaker 3: even early December.
Speaker 1: It's I'll say it's December sixth.
Speaker 3: You know it's December sixth.
Speaker 1: I want to shout out to our dear friend Charlie Barday,
Speaker 1: WHI tweeted, it's always crazy when a date is the
Speaker 1: sixth of something, because it's like, oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: like January sixth.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: That's which I was sort of feeling today. I was
Speaker 1: struck by the I was struck by the date. But
Speaker 1: you know, you could be listening on literal January sixth.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I don't even know when this is
Speaker 1: coming out, but that could be very well likely.
Speaker 2: I think it comes out January seventh, because Janiary sixth,
Speaker 2: I believe it was a.
Speaker 1: Monday Wow, starting the week off.
Speaker 3: Right, starting the week off right. Remember, remember January sixth.
Speaker 2: One thing that was funny about January sixth was I
Speaker 2: posted a comedy video that day.
Speaker 3: That's amazing about how.
Speaker 1: I've used starting the capitol.
Speaker 3: No, it was it was sort of off off theme.
Speaker 2: It was about how I wanted to know at the
Speaker 2: exact point a lazy river could become lazy enough to
Speaker 2: where it became a pool. And I thought this, you know,
Speaker 2: this was something that I'd been rattling around in my
Speaker 2: brain for quite a bit, and I said, great, here's
Speaker 2: a perfect day to post this amazing video.
Speaker 1: And this was while the instruction was happening.
Speaker 2: This was maybe one hour before I got it, so
Speaker 2: I will say, you know, it was actually getting some
Speaker 2: good traction then quickly got buried. And it was pretty
Speaker 2: funny to be checking checking the stats and being like,
Speaker 2: how's my video doing?
Speaker 3: And then being like, wait, what's going on? I mean.
Speaker 1: One of the great sort of genres of like fun story,
Speaker 1: I guess is the things people just did or just
Speaker 1: produced or just like you know, worked on or whatever
Speaker 1: right before a huge world changing event. It's like people
Speaker 1: that like published nonfiction books right before Trump was elected
Speaker 1: and they were like so misdiagnosing the moment. It's like
Speaker 1: books that were like how progress is natural? Like, and
Speaker 1: they were like, all right, this is it, y'all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or I mean this is less similar but still
Speaker 2: a funny thing, like when Mariah Carey's Glitter came out
Speaker 2: on nine to eleven, nine eleven, of course.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh that's so that's that really is classic.
Speaker 3: It's so classic because she couldn't have known. Yeah, how
Speaker 3: could she have known?
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, the various comedy shows both in
Speaker 1: New York and LA. On election Night twenty sixteen, John
Speaker 1: Early like popping out out of like popping on stage
Speaker 1: during a Britney impression while they're calling results.
Speaker 2: Do you ever think, like whenever something like if I
Speaker 2: like book a date for something, I'm like, I try
Speaker 2: to like run through what could possibly go wrong on
Speaker 2: that date. Like I'm like, I hope like a new
Speaker 2: plague doesn't drop before then, or I hope, like I
Speaker 2: really run through a couple of things, like the White
Speaker 2: House doesn't burn that day, because because then who.
Speaker 3: Will come to my show?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good that we can focus on what really matters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course yourself of course.
Speaker 1: Speaking of what really matters, you know, I'll say it,
Speaker 1: Hulu is getting into comedy specials.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and someone needs to speak.
Speaker 1: And someone needs to speak on it. And I actually
Speaker 1: can't think of anyone better than our guest today. We
Speaker 1: lever so much and we are both huge fans and
Speaker 1: we are so excited everyon and her name is Alana
Speaker 1: Glazer Hilana.
Speaker 4: Hello, George and Sam, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Hey, how's it going here?
Speaker 4: It's going well. I'm I'm happy to be talking to you.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: You know you did say before recording that you have
Speaker 2: a packed fry day.
Speaker 3: How does that feel? Emotions going?
Speaker 4: It feels I'm I'm starting the release, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: starting to get some relief and release and by ending
Speaker 4: the day with you guys, at least ending it professionally,
Speaker 4: which is what I consider this context.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we will be sending you a W two.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: This is all pretty lucky and lovely. So I'm I'm happy.
Speaker 4: I'm contented. How are you guys today on December sixth,
Speaker 4: not January sixth and summer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's so similar. I had a I'm okay,
Speaker 2: I'm good. Actually, I had an interesting I've been in
Speaker 2: LA for officially like one year.
Speaker 3: Oh weird.
Speaker 2: I was in New York before and it was a
Speaker 2: big part of my identity for twelve years.
Speaker 4: Oh God, It's like it is my whole identity.
Speaker 1: Sam Moving the Sam Moving to LA is like the
Speaker 1: undercurrent of the of this last year of the podcast.
Speaker 1: It has, i would say, become officially a podcast that
Speaker 1: is about the differences between New York and LA. It
Speaker 1: has become a podcast about Sam's various thoughts on the
Speaker 1: paramount a lot on you know, Sam's various real estate
Speaker 1: journeys in Los Angeles, his new lesbian landlord, etcetera.
Speaker 2: And of course my medical journeys and Sam's medical journeys.
Speaker 3: She's cool. She's an interesting person.
Speaker 1: You know, said cruel cruel Anas like, wait, so she's
Speaker 1: a lesbian? Is she cruel?
Speaker 4: I was. I was just hoping, hoping for like a
Speaker 4: caricature of like you'd think she was cool. She's like
Speaker 4: a gay lady, but she's like the hardest, toughest landlord.
Speaker 4: You just came from New York, you know, but here
Speaker 4: in LA it's actually harder than you think.
Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, I think she She more like gets
Speaker 2: annoyed when we're like impersonal.
Speaker 3: She's like, you're not in New York anymore. You gotta
Speaker 3: say hello, And.
Speaker 1: I'm like no, I don't like yeah, interesting, how friendliness
Speaker 1: can be oppressive. This is something, this is one of
Speaker 1: the great like you know, it's like that thing what
Speaker 1: people are like, what is it like kind but nice,
Speaker 1: or like kind but not nice, or nice but not kind,
Speaker 1: or like how people in the Midwest are so so nice?
Speaker 1: But then it all is coming from such a place
Speaker 1: of passive aggression.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, and also medical journey. Can I just
Speaker 4: check on that? Are you okay?
Speaker 3: Actually? Yeah?
Speaker 2: This so this is an amazing day because part of
Speaker 2: my day was it. This morning I went to my
Speaker 2: urologists that I've been on a journey with over the
Speaker 2: last year and everything is a okay.
Speaker 4: So happy to hear that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's truly been like one year of all
Speaker 3: this and.
Speaker 4: Now I'm I'm a held explorer, girly, I'm about OB's
Speaker 4: euro Gundes urologists, and I'm happy to hear that you
Speaker 4: and your you're you. I'm happy to hear that you
Speaker 4: and your urologists have not a place of peace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're at a place of peace.
Speaker 2: And I do think I want to say, I'm actually
Speaker 2: so happy to have a urologist as like as an accessoryne.
Speaker 1: Get if you don't have a urologist, get a urologist.
Speaker 2: When my urologist calls, I can't help it, scream my
Speaker 2: urologist is calling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like agent is calling.
Speaker 1: Yes, Genna Maroney saying your fecalist is poisoning your what
Speaker 1: is it, facialist or whatever?
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel so bad for people that don't have urologists.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not living kabbalaists. Sorry, my fecalist is
Speaker 1: poisoning my kabala ist. I mean, come on, who is
Speaker 1: doing writing like that anymore?
Speaker 4: Very few, very few to none.
Speaker 1: I guess it hadn'ccurded to me.
Speaker 3: Sam.
Speaker 1: That another journey that we've had since we started this podcast.
Speaker 1: In the beginning, I was having minor butt surgery, and
Speaker 1: then we moved to you having sort of major surgery.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So now it's the ball is back to me again,
Speaker 1: and we'll see how it goes over here.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what you come up with.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for a new medical issue. I think it's coming.
Speaker 4: How old are you guys?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 3: Awesome question, Alana.
Speaker 5: I'm thirty seven. I'll offer mine first.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty five and I'm thirty three.
Speaker 4: I'm the baby, okay, little baby, so I'm like really
Speaker 4: getting into my health journey and like doing all my
Speaker 4: prophylactic medical appointments. Like I'm having like a weird little
Speaker 4: heart thing, and so I got this like heart monitor
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god, my heart monitor.
Speaker 4: And then now I have like the follow up appointment
Speaker 4: where I'm going to do the stress test and run
Speaker 4: and stuff, and it's just like it's exciting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Have you always been doctor forward?
Speaker 4: No? No, no, Actually this is.
Speaker 1: Not to immediately go gay versus straight, but this is
Speaker 1: something I'm curious about. Like I think this could be
Speaker 1: argued both ways, Like is it more gay or straight
Speaker 1: to be to have hypochondriac tendencies and to not not
Speaker 1: that I'm saying that's what you have obviously, but to
Speaker 1: have to be like into preventative care in this like
Speaker 1: obsessive way.
Speaker 3: I would say gay.
Speaker 1: I would think so too fully.
Speaker 4: Fully gay, I think because like straight guys like they're
Speaker 4: like I don't know what I care for myself, and
Speaker 4: like they'll.
Speaker 1: Armor off their socket and it'll be hanging off their
Speaker 1: body and they'll just be like, anyway, I have to
Speaker 1: go to the gym.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also like literal statistics of like, when straight
Speaker 2: men get married, they live longer because their wires make
Speaker 2: them go to the doctor.
Speaker 1: Well, this is a whole other issue of like the
Speaker 1: the most dangerous period in a man's life is between
Speaker 1: mommy and wife because they could die at any moment
Speaker 1: because they have no one.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's true. And women who are married to men
Speaker 4: live shorter because.
Speaker 1: Well, because we have much response psychologically, they're being poisoned.
Speaker 2: Damn no, I'm I'm Alana. I'm kind of similar right now.
Speaker 2: I'm like I went to the dentist for the first
Speaker 2: time in eight years.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: And the dentist now is like for also like cancer
Speaker 4: screenings for your like throat and tongue and gums and
Speaker 4: ship It's not just we're not talking teeth cleanings anymore,
Speaker 4: but it's like about DNS.
Speaker 3: Wow, I had no idea.
Speaker 1: The dentist it's not just for your teeth anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want them looking down there, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like the up there down there is what
Speaker 4: you want from.
Speaker 1: Your Do you go to one of those trendy dentists, Alanna,
Speaker 1: That's oh.
Speaker 4: No, No, I go to like a like farty office
Speaker 4: that my husband was like obsessed with this doctor, actually
Speaker 4: the dentist, because she has such gentle hands, and she
Speaker 4: really does. She's literally was a ballerina and then become
Speaker 4: a dentist and like it's almost like her fingertips are
Speaker 4: dancing along my gums.
Speaker 3: One of the most amazingiful stories.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing with dancers, Thank you, Sam. Dancers,
Speaker 1: It's like either you have a tragic either it's black Swan,
Speaker 1: or you channel all that discipline into becoming the best
Speaker 1: dentist in Brooklyn. And it's actually it's you know what
Speaker 1: else is like that being a child star? Either you
Speaker 1: crash and burn or you become the most Yeah. I
Speaker 1: you know, I won't name any names, but I worked
Speaker 1: for a former child star this past year, the most professional,
Speaker 1: the most like making eye contact with you, knows exactly
Speaker 1: how to act. I was shocked. And then of course
Speaker 1: the other side of it is a little more Graham.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it can go either way.
Speaker 2: I mean I do think the credit that it is
Speaker 2: to have been a dancer, Like on any profession, if
Speaker 2: someone's like and they were a dancer, I'm immediately I'm like,
Speaker 2: I trust you with whatever to me.
Speaker 1: I trust that more than if someone is. I say
Speaker 1: this with no disrespect to our veterans and our men
Speaker 1: and men and women in uniform. But sometimes when people
Speaker 1: brag about being a VET, I'm like, okay, you're you
Speaker 1: know what you're doing here, show me do a pirouette
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk.
Speaker 2: No, I obviously, I think it's one of the weird
Speaker 2: I think it's honestly a generational difference when like, older
Speaker 2: people love to be like.
Speaker 3: And and he was in the military.
Speaker 1: And younger are supposed to be like and she was
Speaker 1: a dancer.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's right. She was a child star dancer, a.
Speaker 1: Child star dancer.
Speaker 3: So I really trust her with my root canal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. And there's also like systemic shit on
Speaker 4: like the military that you're like, which side of this
Speaker 4: do you fall on?
Speaker 1: Where you're like exactly, you literally can ask any questions.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, Yeah, it's scary, But like dance, it's like,
Speaker 4: you're fucking incredible. The only systemic shit with dance is
Speaker 4: like if you were sort of you know, a Russian child.
Speaker 1: But it's not your fault.
Speaker 4: No, absolutely not. That's right.
Speaker 1: You haven't killed anyone. I mean, obviously, listen if someone
Speaker 1: tells you they're a dancing coach, I'm gonna start asking questions.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start doing some booging. But if you were
Speaker 1: a dancer, you are traumatized, and it's on you to
Speaker 1: turn that trauma and to a dental practice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: I just want to say the dumbest thing. I was, like, God,
Speaker 2: it must be like, it's so brave to like pivot
Speaker 2: from being a dancer to being a dentist. As if
Speaker 2: you don't, like, just not have a choice at all,
Speaker 2: stop being a dancer at twenty years old.
Speaker 4: Well, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: They put you out to pasture. You have to figure
Speaker 2: out something else.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Should we jump into our first segments?
Speaker 3: Whoa's crazy?
Speaker 1: Am I being so rushed?
Speaker 2: I mean it's a little faster than normal, but I
Speaker 2: think that could be great and free up sometime in
Speaker 2: the future.
Speaker 1: Okay, stunning, so Alana. Our first segment is called straight Shooters,
Speaker 1: and in this segment, we gauge your familiarity with in
Speaker 1: complicity and straight culture by asking you a series of
Speaker 1: completely nonsensical questions where you have to choose one thing
Speaker 1: or another thing. Think of it like a roar shock test.
Speaker 1: Don't think about it too hard. The one rule is
Speaker 1: you cannot ask any follow up questions about how the
Speaker 1: game works, or we will be so mad at you.
Speaker 4: I hate when people are mad at me.
Speaker 1: We will take back every nice thing. We're gonna send
Speaker 1: you to the dentist and we're gonna tell her do
Speaker 1: whatever you want to.
Speaker 2: This to this perdon and this is gonna be a
Speaker 2: former military dentist, by the way.
Speaker 4: Honestly great because I need a screening and I need
Speaker 4: to know if I have cancer. Okay, Okay, well then yikes,
Speaker 4: sorry for answers, but okay.
Speaker 2: Sam go okay, Elana speratu on Christmas Day?
Speaker 3: Or oh you've got to try my delicious cake.
Speaker 4: Oh you've got to try my delicious cake.
Speaker 6: Everybody hurts, or everybody poops, everybody poops.
Speaker 3: Childlike wonder or warlike plunder.
Speaker 4: Oh, childlike wonder.
Speaker 1: Okay, a bouquet of roses or a ballet with poses.
Speaker 4: A bouquet roses?
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, being assassinated or getting ass as a form
Speaker 2: of payment.
Speaker 4: Oh, getting ass as a form of payment.
Speaker 1: Ass as a form of payment is literally like a
Speaker 1: Broad City episode. If I've ever heard yes, Yes, Okay, Alana,
Speaker 1: she's a brick and I'm drowning slowly. Or I got
Speaker 1: the ick when he suggested bowling.
Speaker 4: She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly.
Speaker 2: If you care to find me, look to the western sky.
Speaker 2: Or if you're feeling hungry, I'll cook up a shepherd's pie.
Speaker 4: Oh, if you're feeling hungry, I'll cook up a shepherd's pie.
Speaker 6: Wow, okay, broad City or apploud, this is witty. Who wow, Sam,
Speaker 6: yours were so good today, No yours were to die
Speaker 6: for you?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: I was like he he sat down, took out the
Speaker 1: notesap and said, today we're going to make history. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have to rank Alana on a scale of zero
Speaker 1: to one thousand doves. I have to say, I think
Speaker 1: that was a really great performance.
Speaker 2: I thought that was a really amazing performance.
Speaker 1: It was giving generational talent. I think she immediately understood
Speaker 1: what was being asked.
Speaker 3: There was a point of view, there was a perspective.
Speaker 1: I like that. Sometimes Alana went for the more obviously
Speaker 1: funny choice, and sometimes it was like no, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pick a bouquet of roses. Yeah, I don't care that
Speaker 1: you made a little joke with a ballet of poses.
Speaker 1: This is about what I want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alana wasn't gonna get pushed around by two random
Speaker 3: gay guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, who are these random gay guys? And
Speaker 1: why are they making rhymes that barely work? This is
Speaker 1: my show. I'm going to promote my Hulu special and
Speaker 1: I don't care about everybody hurts or everybody poops.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go ahead and say nine hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty two doves.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The only you know where there was room for improvement,
Speaker 2: of course, is there was a there was you know,
Speaker 2: there was so much confidence there that I was like,
Speaker 2: where's the vulnerability?
Speaker 1: Yeah, where's the vulnerability?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Of course? And Alana, you know you're coming in with
Speaker 1: a turtleneck business woman, business hours. The earrings are very courtroom.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. Wow, okay, okay, the pressure's on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a nine twenty two, which is actually
Speaker 1: one of the highest scores we've had in a very
Speaker 1: long time.
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah we've had.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I didn't even quite know it was a performance,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I thought it was more
Speaker 4: like it was almost like it felt like a math. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I was like, what I wasn't quadro I
Speaker 4: was going to feel and then I feel like I
Speaker 4: found a groove. I was enchanted by the options. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and by the word smithiness.
Speaker 1: I think it's about finding the right balance between having
Speaker 1: a rational, mathematical approach and then having a sense of
Speaker 1: play about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you actually, you really did a great job
Speaker 1: at that.
Speaker 4: Oh thank you.
Speaker 1: You were kind of a former dancer who then gets
Speaker 1: into hip hop dance. Wow, that was a spirit. You
Speaker 1: can tell you're classically trained, but you're being a little
Speaker 1: Julia styles and saved the last dance.
Speaker 3: You're doing nice.
Speaker 4: That resonates with me. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, huh, Well you get into the topic.
Speaker 1: Wait, I have a question speaking of say the last dance. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, Lana. If you could
Speaker 1: resurrect any property, any media property, film or television property,
Speaker 1: what would it be?
Speaker 4: You know what I've been thinking about. I wonder if
Speaker 4: you guys know this. I've been thinking a lot about you.
Speaker 4: Ever read Jeremy Jeremy Thatcher, Dragon Catcher?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, it was this like book as a child that
Speaker 4: my brother Elliott read and then I read after him,
Speaker 4: and it was like about this Boy's Imaginary Dragon, which
Speaker 4: is now a band, right, Oh yeah, dragon, which is
Speaker 4: a very like straight band or like like straight you know,
Speaker 4: sort of like presenting or something or we all have
Speaker 4: to pretend it's straight presenting, but it's like very gazing, yeah,
Speaker 4: because we're like sitting in imagining dragons. But uh, this book,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm actually been thinking about because it was
Speaker 4: like it touched me at a point I was like
Speaker 4: maybe seven or eight, and it's like the Imaginary Dragon.
Speaker 4: It's almost like I kind of I remember it was
Speaker 4: almost like his crutch or something, and then when he
Speaker 4: doesn't need it anymore, like goes away, and I sobbed.
Speaker 4: It was like kind of the first piece of art
Speaker 4: that I wept at. So I've been thinking about that property.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes it's funny the books you read as
Speaker 2: a kid, because they're obviously like not amazing, but when
Speaker 2: they hit right, you're like fully transformed for.
Speaker 4: A changed changed.
Speaker 3: It's weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, like sideways story, right, what is it?
Speaker 1: Sideway stories from Wayside School? Like that was that Lewis
Speaker 1: Sacars that literally formed my sense of humor. And then
Speaker 1: I need to say it because I would say, I
Speaker 1: might have even been too old reading these, but honestly,
Speaker 1: Captain Underpants, I was like, in heaven, well.
Speaker 4: You're like a octo generation. You're like an eighth generation
Speaker 4: younger than me. So I like missed kept under it was.
Speaker 1: I would say, I was like at the tippy at
Speaker 1: the kind of end of that of me being able to.
Speaker 1: But also it's complicated because this is a long story.
Speaker 1: But you know, I moved to America when I was young,
Speaker 1: and I was behind somewhere from Greece, and so I
Speaker 1: was behind on my reading level. I distinctly remember my
Speaker 1: first year in America, which was second grade. I would
Speaker 1: watch Blues Clues and then everyone else would be like,
Speaker 1: that's like we're all like that's lame, Like I would.
Speaker 1: I would be like excited when I would see Blues
Speaker 1: Clues merch like sold in the supermarket or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then everyone else would be like, who is this loser
Speaker 1: that is watching Blues Clues?
Speaker 4: I feel you though, Like I was like so depressed
Speaker 4: as a teenager that I would watch one of the
Speaker 4: Pooh and Blues Clues like to feel better. So I
Speaker 4: was watching Blues Clues at the same time that you
Speaker 4: were let's say in sixth grade, but like inappropriately, like
Speaker 4: I didn't need to learn English. I was just super sad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also was doing more childish things than I
Speaker 2: should have.
Speaker 3: Like I would play I played Yu gi oh cards
Speaker 3: when I was like far too.
Speaker 2: Old, you know, not in a way that was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm like a collector of things, and this is just
Speaker 2: one of the many things. It was like I was
Speaker 2: just like I like you yeoh, and I'm in fully
Speaker 2: a junior in high school.
Speaker 4: Not to control the situation, I just am making a
Speaker 4: connection that it's like children are rushed to grow up
Speaker 4: in a way that's super sad, Like it's so sad
Speaker 4: that we're we feel we feel embarrassed by being childlike
Speaker 4: when you like are a child, your child at eighteen,
Speaker 4: also like your brain stops growing finally at twenty five,
Speaker 4: I'm like, you're a kiddager. You're like twenty four like
Speaker 4: a kid, you know what I mean, Like you can't
Speaker 4: really be responsible for yourself, like in this like volatile
Speaker 4: world twenty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The politics of growing up, specifically in America are so
Speaker 1: fascinating because on the one hand, everyone's in a rush
Speaker 1: to grow up when they're teenagers. And then on the
Speaker 1: other hand, suddenly people are like in their thirties and
Speaker 1: forties and being Disney adults and going to Marvel movies
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. It's almost like if we just
Speaker 1: allowed people to be children when they were children, they
Speaker 1: would not basically live their entire adult life in a
Speaker 1: sense in a state of nostalgia for their lost child.
Speaker 4: Totally.
Speaker 3: That's like one of the darkest things you've ever said, George.
Speaker 1: It's so true.
Speaker 3: It's really quite hurtful.
Speaker 1: You know, I just I come in with my four
Speaker 1: and I and I can just diagnose American pathologies in
Speaker 1: a way that few people can.
Speaker 4: Wait, Sam, do you feel personally attacked by that?
Speaker 2: No, because I I think where I feel maybe personally
Speaker 2: attacked is like, but this is complicated.
Speaker 3: In our dynamic. George always is the grown up.
Speaker 2: George has always wanted to be forty five, even when
Speaker 2: he was twenty five. Sure, and so I'm always like
Speaker 2: trying to push him to be a child again in
Speaker 2: like a but not a child. I'm just pushing him
Speaker 2: to be twenty five, like he wants to grow up,
Speaker 2: and I'm always.
Speaker 1: Want to be a college professor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he already wants, like, you know, his college
Speaker 2: age child to be like asking him for money, and
Speaker 2: he's like, no, what's wrong with you? And I'm always like, George,
Speaker 2: can we just go back? Like can we live in
Speaker 2: a warehouse and like start a band and like yeah,
Speaker 2: Like what's.
Speaker 1: Interesting about What's interesting about this dynamic though, is that
Speaker 1: then actually Sam is, for example, more responsible with money,
Speaker 1: more of a planner, and less of a procrastinator. Like
Speaker 1: Sam actually has adult qualities that I lack. It's almost
Speaker 1: like I fetishize adulthood, but I but I can.
Speaker 4: It's almost like he's caring for that child as a
Speaker 4: grown up, you know what I mean, Like he's caring
Speaker 4: for his inner child.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: The social analysis is jumping out.
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: Do you do you try to grow up? Do you
Speaker 3: want to do you try to grow up faster? You
Speaker 3: try to stay young?
Speaker 4: For a No, Because I was like very I was
Speaker 4: like a very elderly millennial, like very young. Me and
Speaker 4: my best friends growing up were and we were like
Speaker 4: so uncomfortable, and the boys were gay, and we were
Speaker 4: all like when we just get to the city, everything
Speaker 4: will be okay and we get out of here, like
Speaker 4: we won't be you know, among it was very like
Speaker 4: Jersey Shore energy. A lot of people on Jersey Shore
Speaker 4: are actually from Long Island, like that's where we grew
Speaker 4: up and with whom we grew up and but like, honestly,
Speaker 4: like I also love Long Island, and I love the
Speaker 4: Long Island spirit outside of conservative politics or whatever, the
Speaker 4: big hearted, enthusiastic, you know, kind of tactless in a
Speaker 4: way that I love spirit so and then also like
Speaker 4: with comedy, like I just kind of knew that I
Speaker 4: wanted to do this so young, and like planned and
Speaker 4: schemed and went for it so young that I now
Speaker 4: am like really have been like very focused on playfulness,
Speaker 4: pleasure and joy because the work shit I know how
Speaker 4: to do. I know how to work hard, plan shit, execute,
Speaker 4: So I really love That's why I'm like kind of
Speaker 4: valuing what your natural disposition is, sam As like actually
Speaker 4: like the.
Speaker 5: No offense George, but the more advanced.
Speaker 4: Thing that I aspire to be, you know, because I'm like, damn,
Speaker 4: that's a freedom, that's a comfort with yourself that's like
Speaker 4: both a gift and a practice. Hope.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and also I think related to this is
Speaker 1: what you're saying Alana. When you grow up wanting to
Speaker 1: be some sort of like a writer of any story,
Speaker 1: whether it's comedy or otherwise. If you focus on that,
Speaker 1: then you actually don't have the experiences necessary to have
Speaker 1: something to write about. So it's almost so you like
Speaker 1: exactly exactly blow your load early because you're like, oh, look,
Speaker 1: I can form a sentence, I can write a joke whatever.
Speaker 1: And then you get to be twenty seven or something
Speaker 1: and you realize, oh god, now I have to go
Speaker 1: back and reverse engineer a life that I can then
Speaker 1: write about because I've sort of run out of things yep.
Speaker 4: And it's like like it's a false's it's not true
Speaker 4: that you've lost out on the opportunity to be playful
Speaker 4: and new and continually become. But I've actually found that
Speaker 4: mourning the loss of that time is the first step
Speaker 4: in the first step toward actually being present now and
Speaker 4: like just like being and living now. But it's like
Speaker 4: hard to be like, damn, I really missed out.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of missing out, I would love to know
Speaker 1: what your straight topic is today and what you think
Speaker 1: is straight about it.
Speaker 4: So my straight topic I really I'm going to admit here,
Speaker 4: like speaking of child star energy child dancer like recruited
Speaker 4: Russian child dancer energy and the performance that I wasn't
Speaker 4: positive was a performance until it was affirmed after of
Speaker 4: the worship test earlier. I really was desperate to tickle
Speaker 4: you both with this topic, and I hope I've achieved
Speaker 4: to that with a straight topic of rushing perfect. I
Speaker 4: was asked rushing like a sorority. No, I'm talking about
Speaker 4: people in a hurry to get somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking woman holding tote bag, coffee, change, sneakers
Speaker 1: because she's wearing heels and needs to change. She is
Speaker 1: holding six things and she needs to get to the opening.
Speaker 4: You know, she could be holding all those things but
Speaker 4: not rushing and it would be chill.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But if she's rushing and she's prioritizing her plans above others,
Speaker 4: it's very straight.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh is that good?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, great, okay and goodbye.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: No, well, I thought you were like, tell me what
Speaker 4: you think is right about it, but I'm like, we'll
Speaker 4: discuss it or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we discussed Okay, Sam, what is your relationship
Speaker 1: with rushing?
Speaker 2: Well, this is I'm so glad you asked George. I
Speaker 2: am a huge rusher, and in a way I think
Speaker 2: it is straight because it is like it's by the books.
Speaker 3: You're like, I need to be on time.
Speaker 2: I need to do what's right, Like I believe in
Speaker 2: the Lord Jesus Christ, and I'm on time time business meeting.
Speaker 5: Right right right.
Speaker 4: There's a scripted nature to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like my parents are inherently good people, and
Speaker 2: this is like there's something unquestioning about it where you're like, no,
Speaker 2: being on time is most important thing, but I do
Speaker 2: do it a lot, And especially in New York, where
Speaker 2: I've talked about this, it's more glamorous to be rushing.
Speaker 2: Like I really enjoyed the you know, eating a piece
Speaker 2: of pizza while running down the street to like get
Speaker 2: to the show on time.
Speaker 4: Like you know, in La, you're like farting in your
Speaker 4: car is what rushing looks like. Like just stinking up
Speaker 4: your car and hating yourself is rushing in La.
Speaker 2: Social in LA sucks, you are just like you're just
Speaker 2: like honking. You're just like stuck in honking and just
Speaker 2: being like listening to a podcast angrily, Like it's like
Speaker 2: this sucks and you have no there's not even like
Speaker 2: oh I can run at least, like there's no run,
Speaker 2: you just need be causing you know, million dollars in
Speaker 2: damages if you decided to run in your car.
Speaker 3: It's interesting, Marie.
Speaker 1: Marie Foston's topic was being on time, and I think
Speaker 1: that has like its own that has its own quality
Speaker 1: of being straight. But I think rushing.
Speaker 4: Is that's so funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I think rushing is related but different in
Speaker 1: that it is a larger ethos, like you don't have
Speaker 1: to be running late to be rushing. It's about you
Speaker 1: how you choose to live your life. And it almost
Speaker 1: like is about a fear of a fear of stasis,
Speaker 1: like it's like you have to constantly be on there somewhere,
Speaker 1: you have to constantly be going to the other thing,
Speaker 1: and ultimately a fear of death because it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you are running from something. You think you're running towards something,
Speaker 1: and you're actually running from something.
Speaker 4: And there is like a like a deep seated homo
Speaker 4: erotic nature about it where it's like if I sit
Speaker 4: for a moment and have a gay thought totally, I
Speaker 4: don't know I'll do with it. And if I die, conversely,
Speaker 4: die without you know, having sex, you know, what I mean,
Speaker 4: having queer sex. I'm going to like need to elevate
Speaker 4: in the next life because I didn't do the thing
Speaker 4: that I wanted to do this time. And also Marie's thing,
Speaker 4: Like Marie's thing is like about She's like, if you're
Speaker 4: reading this, I'm probably forty five minutes late. It's like
Speaker 4: this value system that we place on being on time,
Speaker 4: whereas rushing is like, yeah, it's this like mode, I guess.
Speaker 4: And the thing that got me to rushing was thinking
Speaker 4: about waiting around and at first, like I kind of
Speaker 4: confused the assignment where I was like, waiting around is
Speaker 4: like really queer because you're like kind of like horny,
Speaker 4: like checking out like anybody, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: and like seeing what comes to you and being comfortable
Speaker 4: with it. And rushing is straight in that way tunnel
Speaker 4: vision on the script as you're saying it, sam By
Speaker 4: the book, this scripted nature of like, well, I check
Speaker 4: off all the things that make me a good stripe.
Speaker 1: Guy or whatever. And it's like a lack of deep
Speaker 1: contemplation and thought because it's about action rather than internal work,
Speaker 1: like you are, you're getting from point A to point
Speaker 1: B if you pass on the way from point A
Speaker 1: to point B a human rights violation. You won't notice it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It is your only goal
Speaker 1: is getting to point B.
Speaker 3: You are And yeah, George, what's your relationship with rushing?
Speaker 1: I think, well, I have this sort of classic ADHD
Speaker 1: thing of it's either now or not now. This is
Speaker 1: the thing that they say about ADHD where it's like,
Speaker 1: this is why people procrastinate, this is why people realize
Speaker 1: on the day of the deadline that they haven't started.
Speaker 1: So I would say what my sort of ethosays is like,
Speaker 1: up until the last minute, I'm actually pretty calm, and
Speaker 1: then there's this like insane period of let's say rushing,
Speaker 1: let's say anxiety. But it's not a larger ethos that
Speaker 1: I live my life with. It's like the exception where
Speaker 1: it's like, oh God, here we go, like once again,
Speaker 1: I have to in the next three hours do five
Speaker 1: weeks of work.
Speaker 3: I love how you work. I do feel so.
Speaker 1: In that sense, I'm sort of by.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's cool.
Speaker 2: I think I I'm this is a okay, maybe I'm
Speaker 2: becoming more and more therapy pilled again, George.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and therapy pilled.
Speaker 2: Therapy pilled as in believing in it and just sort
Speaker 2: of liking that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, actually, can I just very quickly say so, Sam
Speaker 1: and I have been semi ironically pushing back against the
Speaker 1: ubiquity of therapy, and I actually think and Sam, let
Speaker 1: me know if you agree. I'm like, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: we are all back in on therapypy year, I'm getting
Speaker 1: a new therapist. It is it is no longer. Therapy
Speaker 1: is no longer like, oh, this thing that is sort
Speaker 1: of lame to talk about because it's such a cliche
Speaker 1: to be like everyone should be in therapy. You are
Speaker 1: going back to actually, yeah, everyone should be in therapy.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, because I think it was it felt kind
Speaker 2: of fun to be like reckless with my feelings and
Speaker 2: be like I wonder where this will end up, Like
Speaker 2: I'm curious, like if I'm just shaken up for a bit,
Speaker 2: like where it'll land. And now I'm sort of like,
Speaker 2: hold on, that's enough shaking for now.
Speaker 1: It's time to get serious.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But that being said, I'm like, I keep doing you know,
Speaker 2: fake therapy on myself, and I when I'm in a rush,
Speaker 2: I get like so like angry and like irritable, and
Speaker 2: in this way that is like.
Speaker 3: A completely different person. It's not chill at all.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm like I remember being I
Speaker 2: like definitely get this from like being late to school.
Speaker 3: Like me and my sister would go to like we're
Speaker 3: one year one great a part.
Speaker 2: So we would like go to school sent all the time,
Speaker 2: and so it would be like like if she was
Speaker 2: running late and I was on time, I'd be so
Speaker 2: angry and vice versa.
Speaker 3: If like like we would just.
Speaker 2: Like kind of go at it and be like like
Speaker 2: insufferable if we were ever late. And so I'm like
Speaker 2: I bring that into my adulthood and I've never let
Speaker 2: go of it.
Speaker 1: I think interesting, would you say to sort of go
Speaker 1: back to the therapy question that CBT is rushing and
Speaker 1: psychoanalysis is sitting with it Like CBT is literally like
Speaker 1: action based, right like, And I that's why I think
Speaker 1: CBT is a straighter form of therapy than psychoanalysis, like psychonalysis.
Speaker 7: You are digging, yes, dang, because like the thing about
Speaker 7: your whole paradigm, your whole framework with this podcast is
Speaker 7: like l O wol.
Speaker 4: But then it's like so fucking.
Speaker 6: Real, I have the hope we don't always got there ship.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. And it's like if I can
Speaker 4: quantify it and do that exactly exactly, maybe I'll get there.
Speaker 4: And it's like nah, no.
Speaker 1: No, it's like not not dealing with it's you being
Speaker 1: like filling out a form the entire time. You're but
Speaker 1: you have no idea, but you're like, I filled out
Speaker 1: the form. Here you go, I filled out the form.
Speaker 1: You're bleeding from your eyes. You're going to the front desk.
Speaker 1: You're saying, here is this enough. They're like, do you
Speaker 1: need to go to the hospital. You're like, I filled
Speaker 1: out the form.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Right. For some reason, the farting in your car
Speaker 4: is coming back up for me, And like that's more
Speaker 4: psychoanalysis where you like have to like sit with your
Speaker 4: shit and be like okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, I know it's funny. In some ways, LA is
Speaker 1: more psychoanalysis in New York is ironically because New York
Speaker 1: is so psychoanalysis and up the outside, but actually LA,
Speaker 1: because you're forced to sit with it, is more psychoanalysis.
Speaker 1: In New York. You're like, well, if I don't, you know,
Speaker 1: if I don't cross the street now, I'm going to be.
Speaker 4: Killed, right, And in LA, you're like the whole purpose
Speaker 4: of the city is to create like a para a
Speaker 4: para realistic relationship of yourself with yourself. So it's like
Speaker 4: like kind of totally it kind of have to You're like,
Speaker 4: what is my brand? And then you have to confront
Speaker 4: like what your fucking brand is or something.
Speaker 1: Everyone wakes up every day they take out a little
Speaker 1: life size puppet of themselves and they go to the
Speaker 1: life sized puppet theater and put on a show and
Speaker 1: everyone just has their puppet and they're like, look, my
Speaker 1: performance is really good today. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's like that's like it's like kind of Voodoo Dolley
Speaker 4: like staging it and like crystal putting crystals in Yeah.
Speaker 1: Everything is one step removed from real life.
Speaker 2: I think of LA mostly as a series of gates.
Speaker 2: I'm like, like in New York, I see just possibility.
Speaker 2: I can go anywhere I want, whenever I want. In La,
Speaker 2: everything is gated. Like to leave my house, I have
Speaker 2: to open a gate, and I have to open another gate,
Speaker 2: and then I have to get into a car, which
Speaker 2: is a gate, and then I have to go on
Speaker 2: a highway, which is a gate.
Speaker 1: Being so Caroline Polo check you open the door to
Speaker 1: another door, to another door.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: Those are lyrics to a random song, yeah, to another
Speaker 1: door to she says, you open the door to another door,
Speaker 1: to another door, which is kind of one of the
Speaker 1: most true things that has ever been spoken.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not even really coming up in.
Speaker 1: My Oh poly check, you're making a playlist.
Speaker 4: She's thirty nine, okay, I love her.
Speaker 1: No, she's also Oh yeah, she's been around forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Remember the band chair Lift, Well she was in it.
Speaker 1: She was in it. Gorgeous, beautiful, fashionable, kind of iconically
Speaker 1: like I don't want to say airheaded because that's offensive,
Speaker 1: but there's something very like airy about her intellect, Like
Speaker 1: she'll be sort of intellect Damn she's so she's a
Speaker 1: great you know, she'll she'll have like great lyrics, she'll
Speaker 1: have great music. And then one time she posted something
Speaker 1: that was long lines of like stop comparing me to
Speaker 1: Kate Bush. I'm my own person, but like no one
Speaker 1: was comparing her to Kate.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, there's tough.
Speaker 1: It's tough, you know, it's tough to be an alt
Speaker 1: pop musician and all of us that's not her life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we are lucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, okay, I have, I want to go
Speaker 2: back to rushing. Yes, Like emotionally, do you guys feel
Speaker 2: guilt when like I think there's there is something too
Speaker 2: the rushing comes from, like wanting to please others or something. Ooh,
Speaker 2: and I feel that pretty hard. And I'm like, do
Speaker 2: you do you both feel that?
Speaker 3: Or no?
Speaker 1: I would say it's interesting because you think rushing. You
Speaker 1: think that in rushing, you're pleasing others, and of course
Speaker 1: you don't want to be you know, five hours late.
Speaker 1: But I actually often think the people in my life
Speaker 1: that are the most in your face and you know,
Speaker 1: are almost like performatively anxious, always out of breath, it
Speaker 1: actually creates a bad vibe, you know, like you actually
Speaker 1: are more, it's much more. It's it's nicer towards other
Speaker 1: people if you have a more calming presence, even if
Speaker 1: you do happen to be ten minutes late. Like the
Speaker 1: sort of classic kind of like New York figure of
Speaker 1: the person who's like, you know, slamming the door in.
Speaker 1: She's she's you know, her dog. She's like carrying her
Speaker 1: dog and the dog is like, you know, midpoop. She's
Speaker 1: like getting into the you know, getting into the restaurant,
Speaker 1: like accidentally like knocking over a table. You're sort of like,
Speaker 1: if you just calm down for a bit, it would
Speaker 1: actually be a better experience for all of us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something when you like said that, sim it's
Speaker 4: like I'm thinking about like brushing really usually has to
Speaker 4: do with what you you're perceived expectations of yourself pleasing,
Speaker 4: like that type of pleasing others. And it's like there's
Speaker 4: something outwardly imposing about rushing that is not self contained
Speaker 4: and not like self definitive the way that the queer
Speaker 4: experience calls for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I have one more.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this is the only argument I have for
Speaker 2: rushing potentially being queer. Ready, Yeah, it's dreaming that you
Speaker 2: can have it all, because I think I'm most likely
Speaker 2: to rush when I'm like I'm going to go to
Speaker 2: this thing, but I'm going to get a coffee before,
Speaker 2: and I know that this could like throw everything for
Speaker 2: a loose.
Speaker 1: Like try.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sort of like stuffing your like face, yeah kind of. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I relate to that packing it.
Speaker 3: In I really totally.
Speaker 1: And also, you know, it goes back to a lot
Speaker 1: of these things, uh, like the fear of death, for example,
Speaker 1: of course it is a straight quality, but it's also
Speaker 1: historically a very queer quality, Like it is like the
Speaker 1: instinct I want to make the most of a life
Speaker 1: and to not want to settle is very queer, And
Speaker 1: so I could see a way, you know, I could
Speaker 1: see like a queer argument for sort of this having
Speaker 1: this like all encompassing zest for life, and in order
Speaker 1: to do it all you have to be constantly on
Speaker 1: a rush, in a rush. But I will say that
Speaker 1: there's something the straight version of rushing is like not
Speaker 1: about that. It's much it's much more about like getting
Speaker 1: to the meeting, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Because the oh go ahead, Sam, Sorry, Oh well.
Speaker 2: It's also taking something that's a personal issue and making
Speaker 2: it like a societal issue, Like suddenly your feeling is
Speaker 2: now everyone else's problem. You're pushing, you're shoving, it's you're
Speaker 2: outwardly a problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the queer version of it, I wouldn't actually
Speaker 4: say is really rushing. It's like an insatiable thirst. It's
Speaker 4: in the context of oppressive straightness, like what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also maybe a more psychological and emotional rushing.
Speaker 1: It's like you're you know, not to be, not to
Speaker 1: like romanticize whatever. It's like your brain going a mile
Speaker 1: a minute because you are, you know, trying to interpret
Speaker 1: all the different, you know, contradictions of the world and
Speaker 1: trying to see how you can live as other in
Speaker 1: a world that's not made for you. Like there is
Speaker 1: a there is a sort of a constant intellectual quote
Speaker 1: unquote rushing happening because you are trying to find the
Speaker 1: right way to exist in the world, whereas the stray
Speaker 1: version of rushing is much more external. It's like there's
Speaker 1: nothing going on up here, but you're running on the street.
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, Yeah, no, that makes sense. I hate sort
Speaker 3: of I'm like sorry when you said that.
Speaker 2: All I was thinking about was like, how when like
Speaker 2: scientists and movies about scientists like have that big moment
Speaker 2: where they're seeing all the numbers and really through.
Speaker 1: That Like but that is kind of queer though anything no,
Speaker 1: that is it.
Speaker 2: Is absolutely queir And I was like, I was just
Speaker 2: sort of mourning that. I'm like, that's never gonna happen
Speaker 2: for me, Is it? Like I never had that moment
Speaker 2: with all the numbers you can with all the words.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like that is like the that's like
Speaker 4: the difference kind of like rushing on the street, like
Speaker 4: you're saying, nothing's going on up here, but like the
Speaker 4: sort of Homeland formula, it's like a different thing. It's
Speaker 4: like rebelatory or something. And I feel like, Sam, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm witnessing a couple Homeland moments from
Speaker 4: you already today.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: And also like the fact that you're in LA and
Speaker 4: you made this big move after twelve years. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm sure you came to some sort of like existential calculations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going through them always, even a year in.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm I've been here for like eighteen years.
Speaker 4: I'm like still going through them, which is good, right,
Speaker 4: Like it's like means you're like alive. Yeah, because there
Speaker 4: is this like thing that we're talking about rushing, but
Speaker 4: it's like just the sort of painful running that is
Speaker 4: being alive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do we think of like rushing?
Speaker 3: I have something?
Speaker 2: Okay, what about like people that rush to sort of succeed,
Speaker 2: Like people who at like twenty two are like like
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a doctor, Like I need to
Speaker 2: like the rush to grow up, I guess is sort
Speaker 2: of what I'm saying like, I know we talked about
Speaker 2: it a little bit, but like more in like a
Speaker 2: business ye way, like people that like graduate college and
Speaker 2: are like, right now I have to go get a
Speaker 2: big job and throw my humanity out the wind.
Speaker 1: Wow, what an amazing way to bring it back to
Speaker 1: our initial conversation. It literally was like the rushing of
Speaker 1: child from childhood to adulthood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that that is stray right?
Speaker 1: Or it's tough, because I really think it could go
Speaker 1: either way, because on the one hand, all right, let's say,
Speaker 1: in a traditional queer narrative, which hopefully now is no
Speaker 1: longer the case, a traditional queer narrative, you sort of
Speaker 1: are like losing out on the beauty of like child
Speaker 1: you know, teenage flirting. You know, let's say you're in
Speaker 1: the closet, You're losing out on the beauty of like
Speaker 1: teenage flirtation, teenage relationships, first hookups, whatever, and then the
Speaker 1: stereotype is that you sort of make up for it after.
Speaker 1: And so maybe gay people are more sexually active when
Speaker 1: they're like in their twenties and thirties, whereas everyone else
Speaker 1: is getting married and having kids. So that is, in
Speaker 1: fact the opposite of rushing it is delaying, delaying adulthood,
Speaker 1: whereas straight people are so desperate to have sex at
Speaker 1: the they're just like I have to like just strake men,
Speaker 1: or just like if I'm not jerking off, I'm not living.
Speaker 1: So I guess in that sense, you could argue that
Speaker 1: rushing to adulthood is straight. In a different sense, you
Speaker 1: could argue that rushing to adulthood in the sense that like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's say you're a little queer precocious kid and you're
Speaker 1: like just like lonely and into books, that's also a
Speaker 1: form of rushing because you're like trying to be more
Speaker 1: of a grown up. I don't know, what do you think.
Speaker 2: I think it's more of like I don't necessarily think
Speaker 2: of that as rushing to grow up. I'm more thinking
Speaker 2: of the Russian to grow up as like, like the
Speaker 2: only reason I would think it was the queer side
Speaker 2: of it would be like you like want to prove
Speaker 2: to everyone that like just because you're gay doesn't mean
Speaker 2: you're like not like serious. You're not a serious person,
Speaker 2: so you would like sort of like graduate college and
Speaker 2: like put that painting hobby aside and work and consult
Speaker 2: now to prove that, like you're not stupid, you have
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Well, I also think that's related to, you know, obviously rushing.
Speaker 1: As we said, you're running from something rather than to something.
Speaker 1: And I do think a part of the queer experience
Speaker 1: occasionally is that you are running from some form you know,
Speaker 1: until you accept yourself and you are a beautiful person,
Speaker 1: you're running from some form of shame, some form of
Speaker 1: self loathing, some form of like internal closetedness. And I
Speaker 1: do think that often is what is like the fire
Speaker 1: under people's asses that makes them immediately go into consulting,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like there is something it's like, well,
Speaker 1: if I can't be normal, then I'm gonna be rich.
Speaker 4: And like, to me, that's like that maybe a queer
Speaker 4: person at the center of that narrative, but the narrative
Speaker 4: is hard or normative by definition.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, damn.
Speaker 2: I definitely was like the closeted one who was like,
Speaker 2: maybe if I can get really successful by twenty three,
Speaker 2: able to tell me I'm closeted.
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about this with Vanessa Bayer when
Speaker 1: we were talking about gay people in gay students and
Speaker 1: student government, it's like if I can't be straight, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be president.
Speaker 4: I was literally president of my class junior and senior
Speaker 4: year exactly, because it's like it was just like so uncomfortable,
Speaker 4: and I feel like it's like straighter to not rush
Speaker 4: in middle school and high school because you're like meeking
Speaker 4: out and you're like you're actually on script, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, And whereas I felt like me and
Speaker 4: my best friends we were like, let's leave so we
Speaker 4: can write our script, you know what I mean. Oh
Speaker 4: my gosh. My best friend Daniel was like president of
Speaker 4: National Honor Society, and it was just kind of like
Speaker 4: we're sort of writing a script from these roles because
Speaker 4: we are not being cast for the roles that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is genius. Yeah, totally, totally. Well,
Speaker 1: it's literally like the roles don't exist for you exactly.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like when Reese Witherspoon started producing because
Speaker 1: she was an aging woman in Hollywood and there were
Speaker 1: no roles for her. She had to produce Wild and
Speaker 1: guess what she and she made one of the best,
Speaker 1: one of the best movies ever made.
Speaker 4: That's right. Wow, super sexy too, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, huge shout out to Reese.
Speaker 4: Hey, Rees, we know you're listening. We loved Wild just
Speaker 4: like a sort of new opinion.
Speaker 1: She's always looking for she's always looking for a new ip.
Speaker 1: So I think we'll see she's always trying to elevate
Speaker 1: queer stories.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmmmmm I guess issue definitely women's stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah stories, Yeah, yeah, huh Okay.
Speaker 3: I have a question, Alana. Did you feel the Broad
Speaker 3: City were you? Did you feel that you were rushing
Speaker 3: to it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting because I'm.
Speaker 2: I'm realizing now, like, yeah, it's it's actually insane that
Speaker 2: you got you were like so successful at like twenty
Speaker 2: sevenn or what however old.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally rushing. We made thirty five short films in
Speaker 4: two years.
Speaker 3: That is so wild, it is.
Speaker 4: We were like obsessed and desperate. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, Tea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I mean about like
Speaker 4: mourning the loss of my teen years because like I
Speaker 4: wasn't I kind of like in my twenties and thirties
Speaker 4: was more like oh sex and sexual pleasure because like
Speaker 4: before that, I was like planning and planning and scheming
Speaker 4: and writing. Yeah, and then when Broad City ended, like
Speaker 4: I was twenty two when we started making this web series.
Speaker 4: We made thirty five webisodes. I was thirty two by
Speaker 4: the time we finished the TV show, which was fifty episodes,
Speaker 4: and I was like, who the fuck am I?
Speaker 5: You know, like, who am I.
Speaker 4: Outside of like writing and performing a person?
Speaker 1: You know, did you ever feel a tension between how
Speaker 1: adult and productive you had to be as a creator
Speaker 1: of this and also how and how you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and how.
Speaker 5: The character if you finish I'm just relating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I mean, I'm sure you know what I'm
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but it's like how adult you had
Speaker 1: to be versus how like I don't want to say immature,
Speaker 1: because the characters weren't immature, but how like, uh lost,
Speaker 1: the characters were like they were like very much like
Speaker 1: had these like constant sort of like entry level jobs.
Speaker 1: They were figuring it out. They were unlucky in love.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, I mean, I don't know what your personal
Speaker 1: life was like, but certainly professionally, both you and Abby
Speaker 1: were incredibly high functioning, productive people that were in a
Speaker 1: sense like business wise beyond their years. Were you almost
Speaker 1: like did you feel like a sense of like nostalgia
Speaker 1: for a adolescence you never like for a twenties you
Speaker 1: never had.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I like had like it was such a there
Speaker 4: was such a morning period after Broad City for like
Speaker 4: on many levels, but that was absolutely one of them.
Speaker 4: My husband says, I like blacked out during Odd City,
Speaker 4: and Alana Wexler is like my unconscious mind making it
Speaker 4: to the surface and taking the pleasure that I couldn't
Speaker 4: as a lot of Glazer because I was like very
Speaker 4: anxiously producing this thing. And you know, we made five
Speaker 4: seasons and we like had a contract for two more seasons,
Speaker 4: and we were like, we can't do this anymore. Like
Speaker 4: we have like there's no more Like I'm thinking of
Speaker 4: an assembly line and there's like no more assembly line,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It was just the edge,
Speaker 4: you know, And it was like we actually have to
Speaker 4: like stop production before we fall off the edge, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, al was like literalizing the voodoo thing with That's
Speaker 1: what I was talking about. It's like you literally did
Speaker 1: get up every morning and you were like, what am
Speaker 1: I going to make my doppelganger do? Exactly exactly both
Speaker 1: conscious and unconscious projection of who I am and how
Speaker 1: I feel right and.
Speaker 4: It's like it was so authentic, like Abby and I
Speaker 4: really met in this scrappy comedy way and we really
Speaker 4: it was coming from us, and we named ourselves so
Speaker 4: like that almost made it more confusing the distance between
Speaker 4: the characters and our real selves, where it was like,
Speaker 4: but aren't they us and aren't we so in such
Speaker 4: control over da da da da dah. But it's like
Speaker 4: you're we were like discounting like actual God being in control,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like we were like discounting
Speaker 4: like spiritual a spiritual narrative that we couldn't couldn't see
Speaker 4: because we were so tunnel vision like I got to
Speaker 4: get to work, you know or whatever.
Speaker 5: It was like.
Speaker 4: Completely resonates with me. What you're what you're.
Speaker 3: Saying, Yeah, wow, that is so interesting.
Speaker 1: That is crazy thing not to go into promo mode,
Speaker 1: But would you say that like your desire to then
Speaker 1: recommit to stand up was a way to be like
Speaker 1: I want to be as as literally myself as possible,
Speaker 1: Like it's like I want to be not playing a character.
Speaker 1: Or is that does that not resonate?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: It does, it does resonate. I choke. Are you having
Speaker 4: all these ticks?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: My gosh, okay, I'm like about to descend into my
Speaker 4: Grandma Harriet's giggle fit and I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 4: What you're saying, uh describes or what you're saying rings
Speaker 4: true for me at the beginning of creating this hour,
Speaker 4: but not when I like locked in because I really
Speaker 4: am in psychoanalysis, and my analyst was like saying to me,
Speaker 4: I've said this like a few times now in podcasts.
Speaker 4: I really apologized to anyone who's heard this before. But
Speaker 4: my analyst was like, you know, I was talking about
Speaker 4: how much I like couldn't stand myself right after Bread City,
Speaker 4: like how much I like fucking hated myself and stand
Speaker 4: Up but needed it, and it's like I just felt
Speaker 4: so torn and he was like, well, it's it's impersonal
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, exactly, it's like so personal.
Speaker 4: It's like I'm like ripping my arm off and like
Speaker 4: leaving it on the stage and he was like, no,
Speaker 4: I said, impersonal, and I was like.
Speaker 5: Oh, bitch, you did.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well now I've got some like shit to sit
Speaker 4: in of my own. And it helped me clarify what
Speaker 4: Broad City had been. And with stand Up, it was
Speaker 4: like what I was excited about was to actually like
Speaker 4: reflect and have the capacity to reflect while I was
Speaker 4: making art, and also for it to be like a
Speaker 4: piece rather than a container for my limbs, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. I didn't have the capacity to separate
Speaker 4: the contexts during Bread City. So like this, this experience
Speaker 4: of creating the hour that is human magic, touring it
Speaker 4: and filming it was so different and much more I
Speaker 4: would actually say, much more advanced, like Sam, because I
Speaker 4: was able to actually like play with it and not
Speaker 4: rush through it, really give it the space that it needed,
Speaker 4: and I like I had more. I took more pleasure
Speaker 4: in it than Broad City. Was like incredible and a
Speaker 4: miraculous experience to create and behold, but I didn't know
Speaker 4: how to take pleasure in it, and I did in
Speaker 4: this hour.
Speaker 2: Wow Wow, I love that It's some crazy for us
Speaker 2: to ask real questions where it's not normally.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really proud of us as interviewers right now
Speaker 1: because we're not we usually, I would say, especially over
Speaker 1: the first like three or four years of the podcast,
Speaker 1: in almost a rude way, we would like forget to
Speaker 1: ask people about what they were promoting. We would be like,
Speaker 1: this is our show you are our guest, now tell
Speaker 1: us what you think is gay or straight, and then
Speaker 1: you'll be like, right, so I'm not getting paid for this,
Speaker 1: and I do have a special coming out and.
Speaker 6: We'd be like, shut up, shut.
Speaker 4: Your fucking mouth, bend over and take my pod. But
Speaker 4: I do have to say, like I really am enjoyed,
Speaker 4: like we are so genuinely discovering.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if like you know, I agree,
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 4: Discovering in a way that we're like whoa that it's
Speaker 4: like I don't care, but it.
Speaker 1: Brings you so much joy when a guest like is
Speaker 1: on board with this sort of like collaborative theorizing, Like
Speaker 1: it's so fun because sometimes people don't feel like doing
Speaker 1: it and they like don't get that that's what it's
Speaker 1: just like why are you?
Speaker 4: Why are you doing this? Then?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: I'm loving it. I'm like so in I'm going to
Speaker 4: miss you guys genuinely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also was like there was a because we don't
Speaker 2: normally ask real questions, there was something where we were
Speaker 2: like doing the theorizing and I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: we like along the glazers here, like I'm like, what
Speaker 2: are we doing?
Speaker 1: No, it's right. I wouldn't. You wouldn't want us to
Speaker 1: be like just like any other you know, just to
Speaker 1: be like, so, how'd you get into comedy?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: That would be so straight.
Speaker 3: Wait, that would actually be iconic though.
Speaker 1: That would be iconic if you came up and we
Speaker 1: were like, so, how is UCB?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, but to get lost I have
Speaker 4: to say to like get lost in discovery together feels
Speaker 4: very queer. Yes, and I'm just like lapping it up.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, should we do final thoughts on rushing or Sam?
Speaker 3: Do you want to final thoughts on rushing?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Final thoughts on rushing to me?
Speaker 2: Okay, another, I do agree that it's mostly straight. The
Speaker 2: one other queer thing about it is I'm thinking about
Speaker 2: like like rushing through the rain, Like I'm thinking of
Speaker 2: the poetry of rushing, and there is something where you're
Speaker 2: so down on your luck that it's like you because
Speaker 2: you're in such a sort of melodramatic space. If you're
Speaker 2: like rushing and you step in a puddle and you
Speaker 2: step in dog shit and a woman yells at you,
Speaker 2: like you're like there, you're you are you are in
Speaker 2: a narrative and yeah, you're.
Speaker 4: The main character, a char When that is queer to you,
Speaker 4: I think that part can.
Speaker 1: Be like it's just a self romanticize and it's like
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's like I mean, it is the performance
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, obviously I think there's a way
Speaker 1: in which the performance of Russian can be straight because
Speaker 1: you're being such a like business woman. But also performance
Speaker 1: inherently is queer of course, Like it is much more
Speaker 1: queer to be rushing than to be you know, like
Speaker 1: sitting in a church pew wearing a blazer.
Speaker 2: Like I think essentially we need to look at every
Speaker 2: single person who's rushing and be like are you self
Speaker 2: aware about your rushing? Are you living in a movie
Speaker 2: or are you thinking I just have to be there
Speaker 2: on time?
Speaker 1: Are you living out loud?
Speaker 4: Like we're talking about like different levels of rushing. I
Speaker 4: was thinking more like a businessman who's like shit people
Speaker 4: totally totally so like important or whatever. But like what's
Speaker 4: interesting about that also is like the camp of that
Speaker 4: guy where he doesn't he doesn't realize category is segative
Speaker 4: realness literally, and it's like, girl, we're imitating you, you know,
Speaker 4: what I mean like that there's like there's a camp
Speaker 4: to straightness that like it's really just about the awareness.
Speaker 4: It's all kind of campy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It is all about the awareness that is huge, enormous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the camunists of straightness is like doing
Speaker 1: the most obvious thing. It's like someone doing the most
Speaker 1: obvious thing and then you on the outside being like
Speaker 1: can you believe they're doing that? This is literally a
Speaker 1: bride wearing a white dress and a groom that is
Speaker 1: giving a toast. It's like the movies, they're doing it.
Speaker 1: That's what's camp about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh god, when a movie starts out with someone rushing,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this person is about to like have an
Speaker 2: amazing level or.
Speaker 1: His product opening montage literal.
Speaker 4: Wait, I'm having like a thought right now, Like the
Speaker 4: thing about like what you're saying about like the bride
Speaker 4: and that she's the ring of my dress and he's
Speaker 4: like making a toast. Fuck I hope I remember. The
Speaker 4: fucking thing is that it's like back to the la
Speaker 4: thing is like oh my gosh, okay, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: It's like there's this contrived discovery where like the camp
Speaker 4: of straightness is like we're doing it, We're really giving
Speaker 4: the toast, and it's like, you mean like the forty
Speaker 4: million other toasts that we're in this year in the
Speaker 4: same fashion, And it's like lack of capacity to self discover,
Speaker 4: whereas like the queerness is almost like the genuine, true
Speaker 4: new discovery, which is like also what you say about performance,
Speaker 4: and it's not even like who are you fucking? It's
Speaker 4: like how how brand new? How how vulnerable are you
Speaker 4: able to be to be brand new in this moment?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the discovery is key. I think the instinct
Speaker 1: to want something new is queer, and the instinct to
Speaker 1: like basically like recreate what you've seen is straight.
Speaker 4: It's like that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Huh huh.
Speaker 2: Stunningly, I think I've really covered rushing.
Speaker 4: I think I'm never gonna like this is a.
Speaker 1: Alana, I'm never gonna forget this day.
Speaker 4: I'm changing conversation because I honestly like when I rush
Speaker 4: and I think I'm my dumb shit is so important.
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's like this is a I'm changed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think December sixth will go down
Speaker 2: as as important, if not more important, than January sixth.
Speaker 1: And say, January seventh, when this comes out, is gonna
Speaker 1: be even more important?
Speaker 4: Right? That's right? Then both dates combined.
Speaker 1: Whow amazing? Should we do our final segment?
Speaker 2: I think that's an amazing idea. A lot of our
Speaker 2: final segments called shout outs, and in this segment, we
Speaker 2: shout out in the Grand Street oral tradition anything that
Speaker 2: we are enjoying. Imagine at CRL two thousand and one
Speaker 2: and you are in Times Square shouting out to your
Speaker 2: squad back home.
Speaker 3: About anything that you like. We make them up on the.
Speaker 1: Spot, come up on the spot. I just thought it
Speaker 1: was mine.
Speaker 3: Do you have one? Do you want to go first? Story?
Speaker 3: I go, yeah, we'll go first.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's up freaks?
Speaker 3: Some losers?
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to novellas. I'm
Speaker 1: talking novels that are like one hundred pages long.
Speaker 3: You know you.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stand here and be insecure about Sometimes
Speaker 1: I can't deal with four hundred pages. And if someone
Speaker 1: else said that to me, I'd say, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you stupid anti intellectual, sit your ass down, put that
Speaker 1: phone away, and read War and Peace. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I have to be honest with myself. Sometimes I don't
Speaker 1: have the patience for it. Not always, but sometimes. And
Speaker 1: when you get a book that is ninety to one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pages long, are you kidding me? You
Speaker 1: can read that in one afternoon. It is edited down
Speaker 1: to the bare bones. You're not reading fucking fifteen page
Speaker 1: descriptions of rain. There's a time in a place for that.
Speaker 1: There was not having a place for that, but guess
Speaker 1: what it's not when I am in a rush, a
Speaker 1: call back to the to the topic of the episode,
Speaker 1: and so I want to especially shout out. I'm currently
Speaker 1: reading a book called The Pilgrim Hawk by Glenway Westcott.
Speaker 1: It is about it all takes place in one afternoon
Speaker 1: in one house I in heaven. I don't have to memory.
Speaker 1: I don't have to look at a map of Lord
Speaker 1: of the Rings characters, I don't have to look at
Speaker 1: a family tree. I just have to know four characters.
Speaker 1: And of course the hawk that a woman carries around
Speaker 1: that is kind of an important of the story. So
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what happens and shout out
Speaker 1: to Novella's.
Speaker 2: Who, Well, that's groundbreaking, Okay, I think I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go I think I have one, well I have
Speaker 2: I have one and a half. Okay, okay, wait, I
Speaker 2: gotta remember what the second thing is called. Okay, this
Speaker 2: is going to be a completely disparate two parter.
Speaker 3: Ready, what is up? Freaks, losers and perverts are on
Speaker 3: the globe.
Speaker 2: I want to give a huge shout out. That's right
Speaker 2: to my dentist. I yesterday got dental procedure done, part
Speaker 2: one of getting a crown. I have never had one before.
Speaker 2: And I said, I said to him, I'm scared, I'm nervous,
Speaker 2: and he said, don't worry.
Speaker 3: I got you.
Speaker 2: And when I tell you, this man had me, I
Speaker 2: felt so taken care of.
Speaker 3: I do want to say.
Speaker 2: I know it's hacked for me to say, but there
Speaker 2: was something sexual about just giving up control and letting
Speaker 2: this man grind my tooth down to nothing. I felt trusted.
Speaker 2: I felt like I was looking into his eyes and.
Speaker 3: He kept saying, are you okay? Thumbs up? Thumbs up?
Speaker 3: Are you okay?
Speaker 1: Don't forget to free?
Speaker 3: And I was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 2: I love this doctor and this dentist, and the damn
Speaker 2: office is so humble, and the you know where the
Speaker 2: leather on the chair is cracking and you're like, ugh,
Speaker 2: this is a lived in office, not some of these
Speaker 2: fancy ringl like camera offices. This is a real fucking
Speaker 2: dentist and he is gonna inject me with whatever and
Speaker 2: just grind my teeth to shit. I love this man
Speaker 2: and he can hold me as tight as he wants.
Speaker 2: And secondly, and of course, the most edgy shout out
Speaker 2: yet is I have to shout out Cozy Little Christmas
Speaker 2: by Katy Perry.
Speaker 3: I'd of this.
Speaker 2: It came on when I was in a CBS and
Speaker 2: I said, this song is so good and I cannot
Speaker 2: stop hearing it and loving it.
Speaker 3: Cozy Little Christmas Katy Perry.
Speaker 2: I know this is coming out after Christmas, but mark
Speaker 2: my words, this is Christmas cannon from now on.
Speaker 3: Cozy Little Christmas Katy Perry. WHOA wow.
Speaker 1: Literally never heard of that song in my life.
Speaker 3: Well, you haven't spent enough time in CBS, guys.
Speaker 4: I wish I had gone first because those were so strong.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 4: But in the spirit of queer self discovery, I'm gonna try,
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna go so okay. I do know that
Speaker 4: I'm nervous. What's up? Creeks? And one perverse and shucking losers.
Speaker 4: I'm going to give a shout out to hot water
Speaker 4: first thing in the morning. A mug of hot water
Speaker 4: first thing, Oh my gosh, gets those organs moving, loose
Speaker 4: up everything that's going on inside. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 4: it's dry out or if it's moist in the air.
Speaker 4: You are moist. You are moist everywhere, and you feel
Speaker 4: that heat. And you don't need external validation because you're
Speaker 4: taking care of your body and your organs by keeping
Speaker 4: them pure first thing in the morning, before you dumb
Speaker 4: pompsins into your body for the rest of the day.
Speaker 4: This is your one moment of peace and quiet and
Speaker 4: you have to take your time and you cannot rush
Speaker 4: when you drink this mug of hot water first thing
Speaker 4: in the morning, and you are using that space and
Speaker 4: time wisely tea reflect on what it means to be
Speaker 4: in a body so.
Speaker 2: Buffy you Wow, great, that was amazing.
Speaker 3: I'd never thought of having hot water in the morning.
Speaker 1: Do you not do coffee?
Speaker 4: I do. It's just like when I'm being really a
Speaker 4: really good girl, I'm having a mug of hot water
Speaker 4: first God.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm definitely chugging water when I wake up but
Speaker 2: always ice cold.
Speaker 1: I think that in my uh very gay guy, I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna become one of those classic women who
Speaker 1: get hot water with lemon after dinner.
Speaker 3: I really see that for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you want to that dinner out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and want to poop that
Speaker 2: dinner out.
Speaker 4: Feel like an elegant bitch. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: This has been an absolute delight. Alna, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for doing the pod, and tell our listeners will
Speaker 1: more time, what your specialists called and where and when
Speaker 1: people can stream it.
Speaker 4: If this is coming out on January seventh, I hope
Speaker 4: you didn't celebrate the anniversary yesterday but rather took time
Speaker 4: to give your body healthy pleasure. You can currently watch
Speaker 4: my so more stand up special Human Magic on Hulu
Speaker 4: and Disney Plus worldwide for those you know, Greek and
Speaker 4: international course listeners.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, Well, thank you so much for doing the pod.
Speaker 2: This has been a real treat.
Speaker 4: I'm honored. What a pleasure.
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