WEBVTT - "Rushing to Get Somewhere" w/ Ilana Glazer

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<v Speaker 1>Who Do Who. Special announcement alert, I repeat special announcement alert.

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<v Speaker 1>New York cold and also I guess the very warm

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles weather for Sam and we can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>see you January seventeenth at Cobbs Comedy Club, part of

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast starts now. What is up everyone around the globe?

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome to Tradia Lab, the first one of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy New Year, Happy New Year, George. Wow, god, I

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<v Speaker 2>love when we pretend no.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so amazing. And I wonder what the world. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder what the world looks like. And we have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We have no idea. We are in mid December, not

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<v Speaker 3>even early December.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I'll say it's December sixth.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it's December sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to shout out to our dear friend Charlie Barday,

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<v Speaker 1>WHI tweeted, it's always crazy when a date is the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth of something, because it's like, oh my god, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like January sixth.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>That's which I was sort of feeling today. I was

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<v Speaker 1>struck by the I was struck by the date. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could be listening on literal January sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. I don't even know when this is

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<v Speaker 1>coming out, but that could be very well likely.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it comes out January seventh, because Janiary sixth,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Wow, starting the week off.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, starting the week off right. Remember, remember January sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that was funny about January sixth was I

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<v Speaker 2>posted a comedy video that day.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing about how.

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<v Speaker 1>I've used starting the capitol.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was it was sort of off off theme.

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<v Speaker 2>It was about how I wanted to know at the

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<v Speaker 2>exact point a lazy river could become lazy enough to

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<v Speaker 2>where it became a pool. And I thought this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this was something that I'd been rattling around in my

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<v Speaker 2>brain for quite a bit, and I said, great, here's

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect day to post this amazing video.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was while the instruction was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>This was maybe one hour before I got it, so

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, you know, it was actually getting some

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<v Speaker 2>good traction then quickly got buried. And it was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>funny to be checking checking the stats and being like,

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<v Speaker 2>how's my video doing?

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<v Speaker 3>And then being like, wait, what's going on? I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great sort of genres of like fun story,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is the things people just did or just

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<v Speaker 1>produced or just like you know, worked on or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>right before a huge world changing event. It's like people

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<v Speaker 1>that like published nonfiction books right before Trump was elected

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like so misdiagnosing the moment. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>books that were like how progress is natural? Like, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, all right, this is it, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or I mean this is less similar but still

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<v Speaker 2>a funny thing, like when Mariah Carey's Glitter came out

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<v Speaker 2>on nine to eleven, nine eleven, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh that's so that's that really is classic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so classic because she couldn't have known. Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 3>could she have known?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, of course, the various comedy shows both in

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<v Speaker 1>New York and LA. On election Night twenty sixteen, John

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<v Speaker 1>Early like popping out out of like popping on stage

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<v Speaker 1>during a Britney impression while they're calling results.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever think, like whenever something like if I

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<v Speaker 2>like book a date for something, I'm like, I try

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<v Speaker 2>to like run through what could possibly go wrong on

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<v Speaker 2>that date. Like I'm like, I hope like a new

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<v Speaker 2>plague doesn't drop before then, or I hope, like I

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<v Speaker 2>really run through a couple of things, like the White

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<v Speaker 2>House doesn't burn that day, because because then who.

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<v Speaker 3>Will come to my show?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's good that we can focus on what really matters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course yourself of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of what really matters, you know, I'll say it,

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<v Speaker 1>Hulu is getting into comedy specials.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and someone needs to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>And someone needs to speak on it. And I actually

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<v Speaker 1>can't think of anyone better than our guest today. We

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<v Speaker 1>lever so much and we are both huge fans and

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<v Speaker 1>we are so excited everyon and her name is Alana

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<v Speaker 1>Glazer Hilana.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, George and Sam, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, how's it going here?

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<v Speaker 4>It's going well. I'm I'm happy to be talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you did say before recording that you have

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<v Speaker 2>a packed fry day.

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<v Speaker 3>How does that feel? Emotions going?

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<v Speaker 4>It feels I'm I'm starting the release, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>starting to get some relief and release and by ending

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<v Speaker 4>the day with you guys, at least ending it professionally,

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<v Speaker 4>which is what I consider this context.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and we will be sending you a W two.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>This is all pretty lucky and lovely. So I'm I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm contented. How are you guys today on December sixth,

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<v Speaker 4>not January sixth and summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's so similar. I had a I'm okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. Actually, I had an interesting I've been in

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<v Speaker 2>LA for officially like one year.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in New York before and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>big part of my identity for twelve years.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh God, It's like it is my whole identity.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Moving the Sam Moving to LA is like the

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<v Speaker 1>undercurrent of the of this last year of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It has, i would say, become officially a podcast that

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<v Speaker 1>is about the differences between New York and LA. It

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<v Speaker 1>has become a podcast about Sam's various thoughts on the

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<v Speaker 1>paramount a lot on you know, Sam's various real estate

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<v Speaker 1>journeys in Los Angeles, his new lesbian landlord, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course my medical journeys and Sam's medical journeys.

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<v Speaker 3>She's cool. She's an interesting person.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, said cruel cruel Anas like, wait, so she's

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<v Speaker 1>a lesbian? Is she cruel?

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<v Speaker 4>I was. I was just hoping, hoping for like a

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<v Speaker 4>caricature of like you'd think she was cool. She's like

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<v Speaker 4>a gay lady, but she's like the hardest, toughest landlord.

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<v Speaker 4>You just came from New York, you know, but here

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<v Speaker 4>in LA it's actually harder than you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of yeah, I think she She more like gets

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<v Speaker 2>annoyed when we're like impersonal.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, you're not in New York anymore. You gotta

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<v Speaker 3>say hello, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like no, I don't like yeah, interesting, how friendliness

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<v Speaker 1>can be oppressive. This is something, this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great like you know, it's like that thing what

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, what is it like kind but nice,

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<v Speaker 1>or like kind but not nice, or nice but not kind,

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<v Speaker 1>or like how people in the Midwest are so so nice?

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<v Speaker 1>But then it all is coming from such a place

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<v Speaker 1>of passive aggression.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yeah, and also medical journey. Can I just

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<v Speaker 4>check on that? Are you okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>This so this is an amazing day because part of

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<v Speaker 2>my day was it. This morning I went to my

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<v Speaker 2>urologists that I've been on a journey with over the

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<v Speaker 2>last year and everything is a okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So happy to hear that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it's truly been like one year of all

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<v Speaker 3>this and.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm I'm a held explorer, girly, I'm about OB's

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<v Speaker 4>euro Gundes urologists, and I'm happy to hear that you

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<v Speaker 4>and your you're you. I'm happy to hear that you

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<v Speaker 4>and your urologists have not a place of peace.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're at a place of peace.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do think I want to say, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>so happy to have a urologist as like as an accessoryne.

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<v Speaker 1>Get if you don't have a urologist, get a urologist.

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<v Speaker 2>When my urologist calls, I can't help it, scream my

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<v Speaker 2>urologist is calling.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like agent is calling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Genna Maroney saying your fecalist is poisoning your what

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<v Speaker 1>is it, facialist or whatever?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I feel so bad for people that don't have urologists.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're not living kabbalaists. Sorry, my fecalist is

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<v Speaker 1>poisoning my kabala ist. I mean, come on, who is

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<v Speaker 1>doing writing like that anymore?

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<v Speaker 4>Very few, very few to none.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it hadn'ccurded to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>That another journey that we've had since we started this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>In the beginning, I was having minor butt surgery, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we moved to you having sort of major surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So now it's the ball is back to me again,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see how it goes over here.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to see what you come up with.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for a new medical issue. I think it's coming.

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<v Speaker 4>How old are you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome question, Alana.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm thirty seven. I'll offer mine first.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty five and I'm thirty three.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the baby, okay, little baby, so I'm like really

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<v Speaker 4>getting into my health journey and like doing all my

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<v Speaker 4>prophylactic medical appointments. Like I'm having like a weird little

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<v Speaker 4>heart thing, and so I got this like heart monitor

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, oh my god, my heart monitor.

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<v Speaker 4>And then now I have like the follow up appointment

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<v Speaker 4>where I'm going to do the stress test and run

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff, and it's just like it's exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you always been doctor forward?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No, no, Actually this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to immediately go gay versus straight, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>something I'm curious about. Like I think this could be

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<v Speaker 1>argued both ways, Like is it more gay or straight

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<v Speaker 1>to be to have hypochondriac tendencies and to not not

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm saying that's what you have obviously, but to

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<v Speaker 1>have to be like into preventative care in this like

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<v Speaker 1>obsessive way.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say gay.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think so too fully.

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<v Speaker 4>Fully gay, I think because like straight guys like they're

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't know what I care for myself, and

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<v Speaker 4>like they'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Armor off their socket and it'll be hanging off their

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<v Speaker 1>body and they'll just be like, anyway, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the gym.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's also like literal statistics of like, when straight

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<v Speaker 2>men get married, they live longer because their wires make

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<v Speaker 2>them go to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is a whole other issue of like the

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<v Speaker 1>the most dangerous period in a man's life is between

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<v Speaker 1>mommy and wife because they could die at any moment

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<v Speaker 1>because they have no one.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's true. And women who are married to men

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<v Speaker 4>live shorter because.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because we have much response psychologically, they're being poisoned.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn no, I'm I'm Alana. I'm kind of similar right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I went to the dentist for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in eight years.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>And the dentist now is like for also like cancer

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<v Speaker 4>screenings for your like throat and tongue and gums and

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<v Speaker 4>ship It's not just we're not talking teeth cleanings anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's like about DNS.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>The dentist it's not just for your teeth anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you want them looking down there, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Like the up there down there is what

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<v Speaker 4>you want from.

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<v Speaker 1>Your Do you go to one of those trendy dentists, Alanna,

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<v Speaker 1>That's oh.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, I go to like a like farty office

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<v Speaker 4>that my husband was like obsessed with this doctor, actually

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<v Speaker 4>the dentist, because she has such gentle hands, and she

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<v Speaker 4>really does. She's literally was a ballerina and then become

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<v Speaker 4>a dentist and like it's almost like her fingertips are

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<v Speaker 4>dancing along my gums.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the most amazingiful stories.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing with dancers, Thank you, Sam. Dancers,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like either you have a tragic either it's black Swan,

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<v Speaker 1>or you channel all that discipline into becoming the best

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<v Speaker 1>dentist in Brooklyn. And it's actually it's you know what

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<v Speaker 1>else is like that being a child star? Either you

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<v Speaker 1>crash and burn or you become the most Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I won't name any names, but I worked

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<v Speaker 1>for a former child star this past year, the most professional,

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<v Speaker 1>the most like making eye contact with you, knows exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how to act. I was shocked. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of it is a little more Graham.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it can go either way.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I do think the credit that it is

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<v Speaker 2>to have been a dancer, Like on any profession, if

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<v Speaker 2>someone's like and they were a dancer, I'm immediately I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I trust you with whatever to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I trust that more than if someone is. I say

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<v Speaker 1>this with no disrespect to our veterans and our men

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<v Speaker 1>and men and women in uniform. But sometimes when people

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<v Speaker 1>brag about being a VET, I'm like, okay, you're you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're doing here, show me do a pirouette

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll talk.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I obviously, I think it's one of the weird

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's honestly a generational difference when like, older

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<v Speaker 2>people love to be like.

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<v Speaker 3>And and he was in the military.

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<v Speaker 1>And younger are supposed to be like and she was

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<v Speaker 1>a dancer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah that's right. She was a child star dancer, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Child star dancer.

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<v Speaker 3>So I really trust her with my root canal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, yeah. And there's also like systemic shit on

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<v Speaker 4>like the military that you're like, which side of this

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<v Speaker 4>do you fall on?

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<v Speaker 1>Where you're like exactly, you literally can ask any questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah right, Yeah, it's scary, But like dance, it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>you're fucking incredible. The only systemic shit with dance is

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<v Speaker 4>like if you were sort of you know, a Russian child.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not your fault.

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<v Speaker 4>No, absolutely not. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't killed anyone. I mean, obviously, listen if someone

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<v Speaker 1>tells you they're a dancing coach, I'm gonna start asking questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start doing some booging. But if you were

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<v Speaker 1>a dancer, you are traumatized, and it's on you to

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<v Speaker 1>turn that trauma and to a dental practice.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say the dumbest thing. I was, like, God,

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<v Speaker 2>it must be like, it's so brave to like pivot

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<v Speaker 2>from being a dancer to being a dentist. As if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't, like, just not have a choice at all,

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<v Speaker 2>stop being a dancer at twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>They put you out to pasture. You have to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out something else.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we jump into our first segments?

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa's crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I being so rushed?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's a little faster than normal, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think that could be great and free up sometime in

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<v Speaker 2>the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, stunning, so Alana. Our first segment is called straight Shooters,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this segment, we gauge your familiarity with in

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<v Speaker 1>complicity and straight culture by asking you a series of

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<v Speaker 1>completely nonsensical questions where you have to choose one thing

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<v Speaker 1>or another thing. Think of it like a roar shock test.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think about it too hard. The one rule is

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot ask any follow up questions about how the

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<v Speaker 1>game works, or we will be so mad at you.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate when people are mad at me.

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<v Speaker 1>We will take back every nice thing. We're gonna send

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<v Speaker 1>you to the dentist and we're gonna tell her do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>This to this perdon and this is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>former military dentist, by the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly great because I need a screening and I need

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<v Speaker 4>to know if I have cancer. Okay, Okay, well then yikes,

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<v Speaker 4>sorry for answers, but okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam go okay, Elana speratu on Christmas Day?

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<v Speaker 3>Or oh you've got to try my delicious cake.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you've got to try my delicious cake.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody hurts, or everybody poops, everybody poops.

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<v Speaker 3>Childlike wonder or warlike plunder.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, childlike wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, a bouquet of roses or a ballet with poses.

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<v Speaker 4>A bouquet roses?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, being assassinated or getting ass as a form

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<v Speaker 2>of payment.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, getting ass as a form of payment.

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<v Speaker 1>Ass as a form of payment is literally like a

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<v Speaker 1>Broad City episode. If I've ever heard yes, Yes, Okay, Alana,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a brick and I'm drowning slowly. Or I got

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<v Speaker 1>the ick when he suggested bowling.

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<v Speaker 4>She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly.

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<v Speaker 2>If you care to find me, look to the western sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you're feeling hungry, I'll cook up a shepherd's pie.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, if you're feeling hungry, I'll cook up a shepherd's pie.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, okay, broad City or apploud, this is witty. Who wow, Sam,

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<v Speaker 6>yours were so good today, No yours were to die

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<v Speaker 6>for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like he he sat down, took out the

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<v Speaker 1>notesap and said, today we're going to make history. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to rank Alana on a scale of zero

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<v Speaker 1>to one thousand doves. I have to say, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was a really great performance.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was a really amazing performance.

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<v Speaker 1>It was giving generational talent. I think she immediately understood

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<v Speaker 1>what was being asked.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a point of view, there was a perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. Sometimes Alana went for the more obviously

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<v Speaker 1>funny choice, and sometimes it was like no, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pick a bouquet of roses. Yeah, I don't care that

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<v Speaker 1>you made a little joke with a ballet of poses.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about what I want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Alana wasn't gonna get pushed around by two random

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<v Speaker 3>gay guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, who are these random gay guys? And

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<v Speaker 1>why are they making rhymes that barely work? This is

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<v Speaker 1>my show. I'm going to promote my Hulu special and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about everybody hurts or everybody poops.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna go ahead and say nine hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two doves.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The only you know where there was room for improvement,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, is there was a there was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was so much confidence there that I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>where's the vulnerability?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where's the vulnerability?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course? And Alana, you know you're coming in with

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<v Speaker 1>a turtleneck business woman, business hours. The earrings are very courtroom.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my goodness. Wow, okay, okay, the pressure's on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's a nine twenty two, which is actually

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<v Speaker 1>one of the highest scores we've had in a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Yeah we've had.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Okay, I didn't even quite know it was a performance,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. I thought it was more

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<v Speaker 4>like it was almost like it felt like a math. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I was like, what I wasn't quadro I

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<v Speaker 4>was going to feel and then I feel like I

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<v Speaker 4>found a groove. I was enchanted by the options. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and by the word smithiness.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's about finding the right balance between having

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<v Speaker 1>a rational, mathematical approach and then having a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>play about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you actually, you really did a great job

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<v Speaker 1>at that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You were kind of a former dancer who then gets

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<v Speaker 1>into hip hop dance. Wow, that was a spirit. You

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you're classically trained, but you're being a little

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<v Speaker 1>Julia styles and saved the last dance.

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<v Speaker 3>You're doing nice.

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<v Speaker 4>That resonates with me. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, huh, Well you get into the topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, I have a question speaking of say the last dance. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you, Lana. If you could

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<v Speaker 1>resurrect any property, any media property, film or television property,

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<v Speaker 1>what would it be?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I've been thinking about. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 4>you guys know this. I've been thinking a lot about you.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever read Jeremy Jeremy Thatcher, Dragon Catcher?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it was this like book as a child that

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<v Speaker 4>my brother Elliott read and then I read after him,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was like about this Boy's Imaginary Dragon, which

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<v Speaker 4>is now a band, right, Oh yeah, dragon, which is

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<v Speaker 4>a very like straight band or like like straight you know,

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<v Speaker 4>sort of like presenting or something or we all have

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<v Speaker 4>to pretend it's straight presenting, but it's like very gazing, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because we're like sitting in imagining dragons. But uh, this book,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm actually been thinking about because it was

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<v Speaker 4>like it touched me at a point I was like

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<v Speaker 4>maybe seven or eight, and it's like the Imaginary Dragon.

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<v Speaker 4>It's almost like I kind of I remember it was

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<v Speaker 4>almost like his crutch or something, and then when he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't need it anymore, like goes away, and I sobbed.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like kind of the first piece of art

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<v Speaker 4>that I wept at. So I've been thinking about that property.

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<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes it's funny the books you read as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, because they're obviously like not amazing, but when

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<v Speaker 2>they hit right, you're like fully transformed for.

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<v Speaker 4>A changed changed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say, like sideways story, right, what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Sideway stories from Wayside School? Like that was that Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>Sacars that literally formed my sense of humor. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I need to say it because I would say, I

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<v Speaker 1>might have even been too old reading these, but honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Underpants, I was like, in heaven, well.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like a octo generation. You're like an eighth generation

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<v Speaker 4>younger than me. So I like missed kept under it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, I was like at the tippy at

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of end of that of me being able to.

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<v Speaker 1>But also it's complicated because this is a long story.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I moved to America when I was young,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was behind somewhere from Greece, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>was behind on my reading level. I distinctly remember my

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<v Speaker 1>first year in America, which was second grade. I would

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<v Speaker 1>watch Blues Clues and then everyone else would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like we're all like that's lame, Like I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be like excited when I would see Blues

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<v Speaker 1>Clues merch like sold in the supermarket or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>then everyone else would be like, who is this loser

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<v Speaker 1>that is watching Blues Clues?

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<v Speaker 4>I feel you though, Like I was like so depressed

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<v Speaker 4>as a teenager that I would watch one of the

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<v Speaker 4>Pooh and Blues Clues like to feel better. So I

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<v Speaker 4>was watching Blues Clues at the same time that you

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<v Speaker 4>were let's say in sixth grade, but like inappropriately, like

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't need to learn English. I was just super sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I also was doing more childish things than I

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<v Speaker 2>should have.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I would play I played Yu gi oh cards

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<v Speaker 3>when I was like far too.

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<v Speaker 2>Old, you know, not in a way that was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like a collector of things, and this is just

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<v Speaker 2>one of the many things. It was like I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like I like you yeoh, and I'm in fully

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<v Speaker 2>a junior in high school.

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<v Speaker 4>Not to control the situation, I just am making a

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<v Speaker 4>connection that it's like children are rushed to grow up

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<v Speaker 4>in a way that's super sad, Like it's so sad

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<v Speaker 4>that we're we feel we feel embarrassed by being childlike

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<v Speaker 4>when you like are a child, your child at eighteen,

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<v Speaker 4>also like your brain stops growing finally at twenty five,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you're a kiddager. You're like twenty four like

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<v Speaker 4>a kid, you know what I mean, Like you can't

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<v Speaker 4>really be responsible for yourself, like in this like volatile

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<v Speaker 4>world twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The politics of growing up, specifically in America are so

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating because on the one hand, everyone's in a rush

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<v Speaker 1>to grow up when they're teenagers. And then on the

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, suddenly people are like in their thirties and

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<v Speaker 1>forties and being Disney adults and going to Marvel movies

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff. It's almost like if we just

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<v Speaker 1>allowed people to be children when they were children, they

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<v Speaker 1>would not basically live their entire adult life in a

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<v Speaker 1>sense in a state of nostalgia for their lost child.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like one of the darkest things you've ever said, George.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so true.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really quite hurtful.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I just I come in with my four

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<v Speaker 1>and I and I can just diagnose American pathologies in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that few people can.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, Sam, do you feel personally attacked by that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because I I think where I feel maybe personally

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<v Speaker 2>attacked is like, but this is complicated.

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.639
<v Speaker 3>In our dynamic. George always is the grown up.

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 2>George has always wanted to be forty five, even when

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 2>he was twenty five. Sure, and so I'm always like

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<v Speaker 2>trying to push him to be a child again in

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<v Speaker 2>like a but not a child. I'm just pushing him

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<v Speaker 2>to be twenty five, like he wants to grow up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm always.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to be a college professor.

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:59.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's he already wants, like, you know, his college

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 2>age child to be like asking him for money, and

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 2>he's like, no, what's wrong with you? And I'm always like, George,

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.199
<v Speaker 2>can we just go back? Like can we live in

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 2>a warehouse and like start a band and like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what's.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting about What's interesting about this dynamic though, is that

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 1>then actually Sam is, for example, more responsible with money,

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:24.439
<v Speaker 1>more of a planner, and less of a procrastinator. Like

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<v Speaker 1>Sam actually has adult qualities that I lack. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like I fetishize adulthood, but I but I can.

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<v Speaker 4>It's almost like he's caring for that child as a

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:35.120
<v Speaker 4>grown up, you know what I mean, Like he's caring

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<v Speaker 4>for his inner child.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>The social analysis is jumping out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you do you try to grow up? Do you

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 3>want to do you try to grow up faster? You

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:47.119
<v Speaker 3>try to stay young?

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<v Speaker 4>For a No, Because I was like very I was

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 4>like a very elderly millennial, like very young. Me and

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.719
<v Speaker 4>my best friends growing up were and we were like

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<v Speaker 4>so uncomfortable, and the boys were gay, and we were

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 4>all like when we just get to the city, everything

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 4>will be okay and we get out of here, like

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 4>we won't be you know, among it was very like

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 4>Jersey Shore energy. A lot of people on Jersey Shore

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 4>are actually from Long Island, like that's where we grew

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 4>up and with whom we grew up and but like, honestly,

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 4>like I also love Long Island, and I love the

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 4>Long Island spirit outside of conservative politics or whatever, the

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 4>big hearted, enthusiastic, you know, kind of tactless in a

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 4>way that I love spirit so and then also like

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.159
<v Speaker 4>with comedy, like I just kind of knew that I

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 4>wanted to do this so young, and like planned and

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 4>schemed and went for it so young that I now

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 4>am like really have been like very focused on playfulness,

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 4>pleasure and joy because the work shit I know how

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 4>to do. I know how to work hard, plan shit, execute,

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 4>So I really love That's why I'm like kind of

0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 4>valuing what your natural disposition is, sam As like actually

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 4>like the.

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<v Speaker 5>No offense George, but the more advanced.

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 4>Thing that I aspire to be, you know, because I'm like, damn,

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 4>that's a freedom, that's a comfort with yourself that's like

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<v Speaker 4>both a gift and a practice. Hope.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, and also I think related to this is

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying Alana. When you grow up wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be some sort of like a writer of any story,

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>whether it's comedy or otherwise. If you focus on that,

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.199
<v Speaker 1>then you actually don't have the experiences necessary to have

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>something to write about. So it's almost so you like

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly blow your load early because you're like, oh, look,

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 1>I can form a sentence, I can write a joke whatever.

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>And then you get to be twenty seven or something

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and you realize, oh god, now I have to go

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>back and reverse engineer a life that I can then

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.160
<v Speaker 1>write about because I've sort of run out of things yep.

0:26:55.440 --> 0:27:00.399
<v Speaker 4>And it's like like it's a false's it's not true

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 4>that you've lost out on the opportunity to be playful

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 4>and new and continually become. But I've actually found that

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 4>mourning the loss of that time is the first step

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 4>in the first step toward actually being present now and

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 4>like just like being and living now. But it's like

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 4>hard to be like, damn, I really missed out.

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of missing out, I would love to know

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>what your straight topic is today and what you think

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>is straight about it.

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 4>So my straight topic I really I'm going to admit here,

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 4>like speaking of child star energy child dancer like recruited

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 4>Russian child dancer energy and the performance that I wasn't

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 4>positive was a performance until it was affirmed after of

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 4>the worship test earlier. I really was desperate to tickle

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.959
<v Speaker 4>you both with this topic, and I hope I've achieved

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 4>to that with a straight topic of rushing perfect. I

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.640
<v Speaker 4>was asked rushing like a sorority. No, I'm talking about

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 4>people in a hurry to get somewhere.

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're talking woman holding tote bag, coffee, change, sneakers

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>because she's wearing heels and needs to change. She is

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>holding six things and she needs to get to the opening.

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 4>You know, she could be holding all those things but

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 4>not rushing and it would be chill.

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 4>But if she's rushing and she's prioritizing her plans above others,

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 4>it's very straight.

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Uh is that good?

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, okay and goodbye.

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 4>No, well, I thought you were like, tell me what

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 4>you think is right about it, but I'm like, we'll

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 4>discuss it or.

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now we discussed Okay, Sam, what is your relationship

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>with rushing?

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is I'm so glad you asked George. I

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>am a huge rusher, and in a way I think

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 2>it is straight because it is like it's by the books.

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 3>You're like, I need to be on time.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 2>I need to do what's right, Like I believe in

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the Lord Jesus Christ, and I'm on time time business meeting.

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 5>Right right right.

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 4>There's a scripted nature to it.

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like my parents are inherently good people, and

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 2>this is like there's something unquestioning about it where you're like, no,

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>being on time is most important thing, but I do

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 2>do it a lot, And especially in New York, where

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I've talked about this, it's more glamorous to be rushing.

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I really enjoyed the you know, eating a piece

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 2>of pizza while running down the street to like get

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 2>to the show on time.

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, in La, you're like farting in your

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:43.959
<v Speaker 4>car is what rushing looks like. Like just stinking up

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 4>your car and hating yourself is rushing in La.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Social in LA sucks, you are just like you're just

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 2>like honking. You're just like stuck in honking and just

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 2>being like listening to a podcast angrily, Like it's like

0:29:56.360 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 2>this sucks and you have no there's not even like

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 2>oh I can run at least, like there's no run,

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>you just need be causing you know, million dollars in

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 2>damages if you decided to run in your car.

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting, Marie.

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Marie Foston's topic was being on time, and I think

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>that has like its own that has its own quality

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of being straight. But I think rushing.

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 4>Is that's so funny.

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. I think rushing is related but different in

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>that it is a larger ethos, like you don't have

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>to be running late to be rushing. It's about you

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>how you choose to live your life. And it almost

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>like is about a fear of a fear of stasis,

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's like you have to constantly be on there somewhere,

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to constantly be going to the other thing,

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and ultimately a fear of death because it's like, oh, yeah,

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you are running from something. You think you're running towards something,

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and you're actually running from something.

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 4>And there is like a like a deep seated homo

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 4>erotic nature about it where it's like if I sit

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 4>for a moment and have a gay thought totally, I

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 4>don't know I'll do with it. And if I die, conversely,

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:07.479
<v Speaker 4>die without you know, having sex, you know, what I mean,

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 4>having queer sex. I'm going to like need to elevate

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 4>in the next life because I didn't do the thing

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 4>that I wanted to do this time. And also Marie's thing,

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Like Marie's thing is like about She's like, if you're

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 4>reading this, I'm probably forty five minutes late. It's like

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 4>this value system that we place on being on time,

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 4>whereas rushing is like, yeah, it's this like mode, I guess.

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 4>And the thing that got me to rushing was thinking

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 4>about waiting around and at first, like I kind of

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 4>confused the assignment where I was like, waiting around is

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 4>like really queer because you're like kind of like horny,

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 4>like checking out like anybody, you know what I mean,

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 4>and like seeing what comes to you and being comfortable

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 4>with it. And rushing is straight in that way tunnel

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 4>vision on the script as you're saying it, sam By

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 4>the book, this scripted nature of like, well, I check

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 4>off all the things that make me a good stripe.

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Guy or whatever. And it's like a lack of deep

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>contemplation and thought because it's about action rather than internal work,

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>like you are, you're getting from point A to point

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>B if you pass on the way from point A

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>to point B a human rights violation. You won't notice it,

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? It is your only goal

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>is getting to point B.

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 3>You are And yeah, George, what's your relationship with rushing?

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I think, well, I have this sort of classic ADHD

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>thing of it's either now or not now. This is

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the thing that they say about ADHD where it's like,

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>this is why people procrastinate, this is why people realize

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>on the day of the deadline that they haven't started.

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>So I would say what my sort of ethosays is like,

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>up until the last minute, I'm actually pretty calm, and

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>then there's this like insane period of let's say rushing,

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>let's say anxiety. But it's not a larger ethos that

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I live my life with. It's like the exception where

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh God, here we go, like once again,

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I have to in the next three hours do five

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>weeks of work.

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 3>I love how you work. I do feel so.

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>In that sense, I'm sort of by.

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, that's cool.

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I think I I'm this is a okay, maybe I'm

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 2>becoming more and more therapy pilled again, George.

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and therapy pilled.

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Therapy pilled as in believing in it and just sort

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 2>of liking that.

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, actually, can I just very quickly say so, Sam

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and I have been semi ironically pushing back against the

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>ubiquity of therapy, and I actually think and Sam, let

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>me know if you agree. I'm like, twenty twenty five,

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>we are all back in on therapypy year, I'm getting

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>a new therapist. It is it is no longer. Therapy

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>is no longer like, oh, this thing that is sort

0:33:57.800 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>of lame to talk about because it's such a cliche

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to be like everyone should be in therapy. You are

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>going back to actually, yeah, everyone should be in therapy.

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.879
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, because I think it was it felt kind

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 2>of fun to be like reckless with my feelings and

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 2>be like I wonder where this will end up, Like

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious, like if I'm just shaken up for a bit,

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>like where it'll land. And now I'm sort of like,

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>hold on, that's enough shaking for now.

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>It's time to get serious.

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 2>But that being said, I'm like, I keep doing you know,

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 2>fake therapy on myself, and I when I'm in a rush,

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 2>I get like so like angry and like irritable, and

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:35.879
<v Speaker 2>in this way that is like.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 3>A completely different person. It's not chill at all.

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I'm like I remember being I

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 2>like definitely get this from like being late to school.

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 3>Like me and my sister would go to like we're

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 3>one year one great a part.

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 2>So we would like go to school sent all the time,

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 2>and so it would be like like if she was

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 2>running late and I was on time, I'd be so

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 2>angry and vice versa.

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:57.879
<v Speaker 3>If like like we would just.

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Like kind of go at it and be like like

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 2>insufferable if we were ever late. And so I'm like

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I bring that into my adulthood and I've never let

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 2>go of it.

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I think interesting, would you say to sort of go

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>back to the therapy question that CBT is rushing and

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>psychoanalysis is sitting with it Like CBT is literally like

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>action based, right like, And I that's why I think

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>CBT is a straighter form of therapy than psychoanalysis, like psychonalysis.

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:34.240
<v Speaker 7>You are digging, yes, dang, because like the thing about

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 7>your whole paradigm, your whole framework with this podcast is

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 7>like l O wol.

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 4>But then it's like so fucking.

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 6>Real, I have the hope we don't always got there ship.

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 4>That's right, that's right. And it's like if I can

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 4>quantify it and do that exactly exactly, maybe I'll get there.

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 4>And it's like nah, no.

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>No, it's like not not dealing with it's you being

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>like filling out a form the entire time. You're but

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you have no idea, but you're like, I filled out

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the form. Here you go, I filled out the form.

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>You're bleeding from your eyes. You're going to the front desk.

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>You're saying, here is this enough. They're like, do you

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 1>need to go to the hospital. You're like, I filled

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>out the form.

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Right. For some reason, the farting in your car

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 4>is coming back up for me, And like that's more

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 4>psychoanalysis where you like have to like sit with your

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 4>shit and be like okay.

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I know it's funny. In some ways, LA is

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>more psychoanalysis in New York is ironically because New York

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 1>is so psychoanalysis and up the outside, but actually LA,

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 1>because you're forced to sit with it, is more psychoanalysis.

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>In New York. You're like, well, if I don't, you know,

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>if I don't cross the street now, I'm going to be.

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 4>Killed, right, And in LA, you're like the whole purpose

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 4>of the city is to create like a para a

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 4>para realistic relationship of yourself with yourself. So it's like

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 4>like kind of totally it kind of have to You're like,

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 4>what is my brand? And then you have to confront

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 4>like what your fucking brand is or something.

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Everyone wakes up every day they take out a little

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>life size puppet of themselves and they go to the

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>life sized puppet theater and put on a show and

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>everyone just has their puppet and they're like, look, my

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>performance is really good today. Yeah.

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 4>It's like that's like it's like kind of Voodoo Dolley

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 4>like staging it and like crystal putting crystals in Yeah.

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Everything is one step removed from real life.

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I think of LA mostly as a series of gates.

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, like in New York, I see just possibility.

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I can go anywhere I want, whenever I want. In La,

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 2>everything is gated. Like to leave my house, I have

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 2>to open a gate, and I have to open another gate,

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 2>and then I have to get into a car, which

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 2>is a gate, and then I have to go on

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 2>a highway, which is a gate.

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Being so Caroline Polo check you open the door to

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 1>another door, to another door.

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pretty much.

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Those are lyrics to a random song, yeah, to another

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 1>door to she says, you open the door to another door,

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to another door, which is kind of one of the

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:56.280
<v Speaker 1>most true things that has ever been spoken.

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not even really coming up in.

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 1>My Oh poly check, you're making a playlist.

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 4>She's thirty nine, okay, I love her.

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.360
<v Speaker 1>No, she's also Oh yeah, she's been around forever.

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Remember the band chair Lift, Well she was in it.

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>She was in it. Gorgeous, beautiful, fashionable, kind of iconically

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>like I don't want to say airheaded because that's offensive,

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>but there's something very like airy about her intellect, Like

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 1>she'll be sort of intellect Damn she's so she's a

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:37.839
<v Speaker 1>great you know, she'll she'll have like great lyrics, she'll

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 1>have great music. And then one time she posted something

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that was long lines of like stop comparing me to

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 1>Kate Bush. I'm my own person, but like no one

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 1>was comparing her to Kate.

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, there's tough.

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>It's tough, you know, it's tough to be an alt

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:59.280
<v Speaker 1>pop musician and all of us that's not her life.

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we are lucky.

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, okay, I have, I want to go

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 2>back to rushing. Yes, Like emotionally, do you guys feel

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.760
<v Speaker 2>guilt when like I think there's there is something too

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 2>the rushing comes from, like wanting to please others or something. Ooh,

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and I feel that pretty hard. And I'm like, do

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 2>you do you both feel that?

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Or no?

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I would say it's interesting because you think rushing. You

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>think that in rushing, you're pleasing others, and of course

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:33.919
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be you know, five hours late.

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>But I actually often think the people in my life

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that are the most in your face and you know,

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 1>are almost like performatively anxious, always out of breath, it

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>actually creates a bad vibe, you know, like you actually

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 1>are more, it's much more. It's it's nicer towards other

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 1>people if you have a more calming presence, even if

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:00.320
<v Speaker 1>you do happen to be ten minutes late. Like the

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:02.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of classic kind of like New York figure of

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.919
<v Speaker 1>the person who's like, you know, slamming the door in.

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>She's she's you know, her dog. She's like carrying her

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>dog and the dog is like, you know, midpoop. She's

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>like getting into the you know, getting into the restaurant,

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>like accidentally like knocking over a table. You're sort of like,

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:19.919
<v Speaker 1>if you just calm down for a bit, it would

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>actually be a better experience for all of us.

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's something when you like said that, sim it's

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 4>like I'm thinking about like brushing really usually has to

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 4>do with what you you're perceived expectations of yourself pleasing,

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 4>like that type of pleasing others. And it's like there's

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 4>something outwardly imposing about rushing that is not self contained

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 4>and not like self definitive the way that the queer

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 4>experience calls for.

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, I have one more.

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, this is the only argument I have for

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 2>rushing potentially being queer. Ready, Yeah, it's dreaming that you

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 2>can have it all, because I think I'm most likely

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 2>to rush when I'm like I'm going to go to

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 2>this thing, but I'm going to get a coffee before,

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and I know that this could like throw everything for

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>a loose.

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Like try.

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sort of like stuffing your like face, yeah kind of. Yeah, Yeah,

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 4>I relate to that packing it.

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:20.240
<v Speaker 3>In I really totally.

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>And also, you know, it goes back to a lot

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>of these things, uh, like the fear of death, for example,

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>of course it is a straight quality, but it's also

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>historically a very queer quality, Like it is like the

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>instinct I want to make the most of a life

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and to not want to settle is very queer, And

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 1>so I could see a way, you know, I could

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 1>see like a queer argument for sort of this having

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>this like all encompassing zest for life, and in order

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to do it all you have to be constantly on

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>a rush, in a rush. But I will say that

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>there's something the straight version of rushing is like not

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>about that. It's much it's much more about like getting

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>to the meeting, Yeah.

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 4>Because the oh go ahead, Sam, Sorry, Oh well.

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 2>It's also taking something that's a personal issue and making

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 2>it like a societal issue, Like suddenly your feeling is

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 2>now everyone else's problem. You're pushing, you're shoving, it's you're

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 2>outwardly a problem.

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because the queer version of it, I wouldn't actually

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 4>say is really rushing. It's like an insatiable thirst. It's

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:33.280
<v Speaker 4>in the context of oppressive straightness, like what we're talking about.

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's also maybe a more psychological and emotional rushing.

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're you know, not to be, not to

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 1>like romanticize whatever. It's like your brain going a mile

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:48.280
<v Speaker 1>a minute because you are, you know, trying to interpret

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 1>all the different, you know, contradictions of the world and

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to see how you can live as other in

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>a world that's not made for you. Like there is

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>a there is a sort of a constant intellectual quote

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>unquote rushing happening because you are trying to find the

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 1>right way to exist in the world, whereas the stray

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.439
<v Speaker 1>version of rushing is much more external. It's like there's

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>nothing going on up here, but you're running on the street.

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Wow, Yeah, no, that makes sense. I hate sort

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 3>of I'm like sorry when you said that.

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 2>All I was thinking about was like, how when like

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.439
<v Speaker 2>scientists and movies about scientists like have that big moment

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 2>where they're seeing all the numbers and really through.

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>That Like but that is kind of queer though anything no,

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>that is it.

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Is absolutely queir And I was like, I was just

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 2>sort of mourning that. I'm like, that's never gonna happen

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>for me, Is it? Like I never had that moment

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 2>with all the numbers you can with all the words.

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel like that is like the that's like

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:47.800
<v Speaker 4>the difference kind of like rushing on the street, like

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 4>you're saying, nothing's going on up here, but like the

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 4>sort of Homeland formula, it's like a different thing. It's

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:58.360
<v Speaker 4>like rebelatory or something. And I feel like, Sam, I'm like,

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I'm witnessing a couple Homeland moments from

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:03.720
<v Speaker 4>you already today.

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 4>And also like the fact that you're in LA and

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 4>you made this big move after twelve years. I'm like,

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you came to some sort of like existential calculations.

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm going through them always, even a year in.

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I'm I've been here for like eighteen years.

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm like still going through them, which is good, right,

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 4>Like it's like means you're like alive. Yeah, because there

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 4>is this like thing that we're talking about rushing, but

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 4>it's like just the sort of painful running that is

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 4>being alive.

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what do we think of like rushing?

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 3>I have something?

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what about like people that rush to sort of succeed,

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Like people who at like twenty two are like like

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be a doctor, Like I need to

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.399
<v Speaker 2>like the rush to grow up, I guess is sort

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 2>of what I'm saying like, I know we talked about

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 2>it a little bit, but like more in like a

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 2>business ye way, like people that like graduate college and

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 2>are like, right now I have to go get a

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 2>big job and throw my humanity out the wind.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, what an amazing way to bring it back to

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 1>our initial conversation. It literally was like the rushing of

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 1>child from childhood to adulthood.

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, is that that is stray right?

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Or it's tough, because I really think it could go

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 1>either way, because on the one hand, all right, let's say,

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>in a traditional queer narrative, which hopefully now is no

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>longer the case, a traditional queer narrative, you sort of

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:32.240
<v Speaker 1>are like losing out on the beauty of like child

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, teenage flirting. You know, let's say you're in

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the closet, You're losing out on the beauty of like

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>teenage flirtation, teenage relationships, first hookups, whatever, and then the

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>stereotype is that you sort of make up for it after.

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>And so maybe gay people are more sexually active when

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>they're like in their twenties and thirties, whereas everyone else

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 1>is getting married and having kids. So that is, in

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 1>fact the opposite of rushing it is delaying, delaying adulthood,

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>whereas straight people are so desperate to have sex at

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the they're just like I have to like just strake men,

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:06.800
<v Speaker 1>or just like if I'm not jerking off, I'm not living.

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 1>So I guess in that sense, you could argue that

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>rushing to adulthood is straight. In a different sense, you

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 1>could argue that rushing to adulthood in the sense that like, oh,

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 1>let's say you're a little queer precocious kid and you're

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 1>like just like lonely and into books, that's also a

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>form of rushing because you're like trying to be more

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:28.719
<v Speaker 1>of a grown up. I don't know, what do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more of like I don't necessarily think

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 2>of that as rushing to grow up. I'm more thinking

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 2>of the Russian to grow up as like, like the

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 2>only reason I would think it was the queer side

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 2>of it would be like you like want to prove

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.399
<v Speaker 2>to everyone that like just because you're gay doesn't mean

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 2>you're like not like serious. You're not a serious person,

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 2>so you would like sort of like graduate college and

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 2>like put that painting hobby aside and work and consult

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:04.799
<v Speaker 2>now to prove that, like you're not stupid, you have

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 2>two hundred thousand dollars.

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, I also think that's related to, you know, obviously rushing.

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>As we said, you're running from something rather than to something.

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>And I do think a part of the queer experience

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 1>occasionally is that you are running from some form you know,

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 1>until you accept yourself and you are a beautiful person,

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you're running from some form of shame, some form of

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 1>self loathing, some form of like internal closetedness. And I

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:32.880
<v Speaker 1>do think that often is what is like the fire

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 1>under people's asses that makes them immediately go into consulting,

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:40.239
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like there is something it's like, well,

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>if I can't be normal, then I'm gonna be rich.

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.760
<v Speaker 4>And like, to me, that's like that maybe a queer

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:47.720
<v Speaker 4>person at the center of that narrative, but the narrative

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 4>is hard or normative by definition.

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.240
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yeah, damn.

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I definitely was like the closeted one who was like,

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.879
<v Speaker 2>maybe if I can get really successful by twenty three,

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:01.280
<v Speaker 2>able to tell me I'm closeted.

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean we talked about this with Vanessa Bayer when

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about gay people in gay students and

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 1>student government, it's like if I can't be straight, I'm

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be president.

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:14.760
<v Speaker 4>I was literally president of my class junior and senior

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 4>year exactly, because it's like it was just like so uncomfortable,

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:20.240
<v Speaker 4>and I feel like it's like straighter to not rush

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 4>in middle school and high school because you're like meeking

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 4>out and you're like you're actually on script, you know

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 4>what I mean, And whereas I felt like me and

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 4>my best friends we were like, let's leave so we

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 4>can write our script, you know what I mean. Oh

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 4>my gosh. My best friend Daniel was like president of

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 4>National Honor Society, and it was just kind of like

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 4>we're sort of writing a script from these roles because

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 4>we are not being cast for the roles that.

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that is genius. Yeah, totally, totally. Well,

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>it's literally like the roles don't exist for you exactly.

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:53.840
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:57.240
<v Speaker 1>It's sort of like when Reese Witherspoon started producing because

0:48:57.280 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 1>she was an aging woman in Hollywood and there were

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>no roles for her. She had to produce Wild and

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>guess what she and she made one of the best,

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 1>one of the best movies ever made.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. Wow, super sexy too, Yeah.

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, huge shout out to Reese.

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Hey, Rees, we know you're listening. We loved Wild just

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 4>like a sort of new opinion.

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 1>She's always looking for she's always looking for a new ip.

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think we'll see she's always trying to elevate

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 1>queer stories.

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmmmmm I guess issue definitely women's stories.

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah stories, Yeah, yeah, huh Okay.

0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:43.200
<v Speaker 3>I have a question, Alana. Did you feel the Broad

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:45.320
<v Speaker 3>City were you? Did you feel that you were rushing

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:47.800
<v Speaker 3>to it? Yeah?

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:50.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, interesting because I'm.

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm realizing now, like, yeah, it's it's actually insane that

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 2>you got you were like so successful at like twenty

0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:59.479
<v Speaker 2>sevenn or what however old.

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, totally rushing. We made thirty five short films in

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 4>two years.

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 3>That is so wild, it is.

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 4>We were like obsessed and desperate. It's crazy.

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:11.839
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy, Tea.

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:14.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I mean about like

0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 4>mourning the loss of my teen years because like I

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:20.280
<v Speaker 4>wasn't I kind of like in my twenties and thirties

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:23.400
<v Speaker 4>was more like oh sex and sexual pleasure because like

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 4>before that, I was like planning and planning and scheming

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:30.840
<v Speaker 4>and writing. Yeah, and then when Broad City ended, like

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 4>I was twenty two when we started making this web series.

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 4>We made thirty five webisodes. I was thirty two by

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 4>the time we finished the TV show, which was fifty episodes,

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, who the fuck am I?

0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:47.920
<v Speaker 5>You know, like, who am I.

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 4>Outside of like writing and performing a person?

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, did you ever feel a tension between how

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 1>adult and productive you had to be as a creator

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 1>of this and also how and how you know what

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:02.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and how.

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<v Speaker 5>The character if you finish I'm just relating.

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sorry, I mean, I'm sure you know what I'm

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, but it's like how adult you had

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to be versus how like I don't want to say immature,

0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 1>because the characters weren't immature, but how like, uh lost,

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the characters were like they were like very much like

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.840
<v Speaker 1>had these like constant sort of like entry level jobs.

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:23.919
<v Speaker 1>They were figuring it out. They were unlucky in love.

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile, I mean, I don't know what your personal

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:31.240
<v Speaker 1>life was like, but certainly professionally, both you and Abby

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 1>were incredibly high functioning, productive people that were in a

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>sense like business wise beyond their years. Were you almost

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 1>like did you feel like a sense of like nostalgia

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>for a adolescence you never like for a twenties you

0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 1>never had.

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:49.880
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I like had like it was such a there

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 4>was such a morning period after Broad City for like

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 4>on many levels, but that was absolutely one of them.

0:51:56.800 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 4>My husband says, I like blacked out during Odd City,

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:03.839
<v Speaker 4>and Alana Wexler is like my unconscious mind making it

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 4>to the surface and taking the pleasure that I couldn't

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 4>as a lot of Glazer because I was like very

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:14.919
<v Speaker 4>anxiously producing this thing. And you know, we made five

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:20.400
<v Speaker 4>seasons and we like had a contract for two more seasons,

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 4>and we were like, we can't do this anymore. Like

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 4>we have like there's no more Like I'm thinking of

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.360
<v Speaker 4>an assembly line and there's like no more assembly line,

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:29.840
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. It was just the edge,

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:31.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, And it was like we actually have to

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:33.840
<v Speaker 4>like stop production before we fall off the edge, you

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:34.359
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean.

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, al was like literalizing the voodoo thing with That's

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>what I was talking about. It's like you literally did

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 1>get up every morning and you were like, what am

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I going to make my doppelganger do? Exactly exactly both

0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:51.400
<v Speaker 1>conscious and unconscious projection of who I am and how

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I feel right and.

0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 4>It's like it was so authentic, like Abby and I

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 4>really met in this scrappy comedy way and we really

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 4>it was coming from us, and we named ourselves so

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 4>like that almost made it more confusing the distance between

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 4>the characters and our real selves, where it was like,

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 4>but aren't they us and aren't we so in such

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:16.759
<v Speaker 4>control over da da da da dah. But it's like

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 4>you're we were like discounting like actual God being in control,

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? Like we were like discounting

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 4>like spiritual a spiritual narrative that we couldn't couldn't see

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 4>because we were so tunnel vision like I got to

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 4>get to work, you know or whatever.

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:35.839
<v Speaker 5>It was like.

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Completely resonates with me. What you're what you're.

0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Saying, Yeah, wow, that is so interesting.

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:47.759
<v Speaker 1>That is crazy thing not to go into promo mode,

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 1>But would you say that like your desire to then

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 1>recommit to stand up was a way to be like

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to be as as literally myself as possible,

0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like I want to be not playing a character.

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Or is that does that not resonate?

0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:02.959
<v Speaker 5>Well?

0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:15.680
<v Speaker 4>It does, it does resonate. I choke. Are you having

0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 4>all these ticks?

0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:21.279
<v Speaker 4>My gosh, okay, I'm like about to descend into my

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 4>Grandma Harriet's giggle fit and I'm not going to do it.

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:29.400
<v Speaker 4>What you're saying, uh describes or what you're saying rings

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 4>true for me at the beginning of creating this hour,

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 4>but not when I like locked in because I really

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:40.640
<v Speaker 4>am in psychoanalysis, and my analyst was like saying to me,

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 4>I've said this like a few times now in podcasts.

0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 4>I really apologized to anyone who's heard this before. But

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 4>my analyst was like, you know, I was talking about

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 4>how much I like couldn't stand myself right after Bread City,

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.400
<v Speaker 4>like how much I like fucking hated myself and stand

0:54:57.480 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Up but needed it, and it's like I just felt

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 4>so torn and he was like, well, it's it's impersonal

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:06.800
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, oh, exactly, it's like so personal.

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:09.040
<v Speaker 4>It's like I'm like ripping my arm off and like

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 4>leaving it on the stage and he was like, no,

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 4>I said, impersonal, and I was like.

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:16.760
<v Speaker 5>Oh, bitch, you did.

0:55:18.360 --> 0:55:22.399
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well now I've got some like shit to sit

0:55:22.480 --> 0:55:25.640
<v Speaker 4>in of my own. And it helped me clarify what

0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:28.360
<v Speaker 4>Broad City had been. And with stand Up, it was

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:31.719
<v Speaker 4>like what I was excited about was to actually like

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:36.279
<v Speaker 4>reflect and have the capacity to reflect while I was

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 4>making art, and also for it to be like a

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:45.960
<v Speaker 4>piece rather than a container for my limbs, you know

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:49.240
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. I didn't have the capacity to separate

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 4>the contexts during Bread City. So like this, this experience

0:55:56.680 --> 0:56:00.200
<v Speaker 4>of creating the hour that is human magic, touring it

0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:04.840
<v Speaker 4>and filming it was so different and much more I

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 4>would actually say, much more advanced, like Sam, because I

0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 4>was able to actually like play with it and not

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 4>rush through it, really give it the space that it needed,

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 4>and I like I had more. I took more pleasure

0:56:20.360 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 4>in it than Broad City. Was like incredible and a

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:29.440
<v Speaker 4>miraculous experience to create and behold, but I didn't know

0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:32.799
<v Speaker 4>how to take pleasure in it, and I did in

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:33.640
<v Speaker 4>this hour.

0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow Wow, I love that It's some crazy for us

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 2>to ask real questions where it's not normally.

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually really proud of us as interviewers right now

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:48.279
<v Speaker 1>because we're not we usually, I would say, especially over

0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the first like three or four years of the podcast,

0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:53.320
<v Speaker 1>in almost a rude way, we would like forget to

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:55.400
<v Speaker 1>ask people about what they were promoting. We would be like,

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:58.160
<v Speaker 1>this is our show you are our guest, now tell

0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:00.239
<v Speaker 1>us what you think is gay or straight, and then

0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you'll be like, right, so I'm not getting paid for this,

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:04.759
<v Speaker 1>and I do have a special coming out and.

0:57:04.719 --> 0:57:08.320
<v Speaker 6>We'd be like, shut up, shut.

0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 4>Your fucking mouth, bend over and take my pod. But

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 4>I do have to say, like I really am enjoyed,

0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 4>like we are so genuinely discovering.

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if like you know, I agree,

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:21.000
<v Speaker 4>Discovering in a way that we're like whoa that it's

0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.200
<v Speaker 4>like I don't care, but it.

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Brings you so much joy when a guest like is

0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 1>on board with this sort of like collaborative theorizing, Like

0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it's so fun because sometimes people don't feel like doing

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it and they like don't get that that's what it's

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 1>just like why are you?

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:39.640
<v Speaker 4>Why are you doing this? Then?

0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we really appreciate it.

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm loving it. I'm like so in I'm going to

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:50.800
<v Speaker 4>miss you guys genuinely.

0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I also was like there was a because we don't

0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:57.120
<v Speaker 2>normally ask real questions, there was something where we were

0:57:57.120 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 2>like doing the theorizing and I was like, wait a minute,

0:57:59.400 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 2>we like along the glazers here, like I'm like, what

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:02.480
<v Speaker 2>are we doing?

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 1>No, it's right. I wouldn't. You wouldn't want us to

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:10.360
<v Speaker 1>be like just like any other you know, just to

0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 1>be like, so, how'd you get into comedy?

0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 4>That would be so straight.

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Wait, that would actually be iconic though.

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 1>That would be iconic if you came up and we

0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 1>were like, so, how is UCB?

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:22.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know, but to get lost I have

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:27.800
<v Speaker 4>to say to like get lost in discovery together feels

0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 4>very queer. Yes, and I'm just like lapping it up.

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:33.000
<v Speaker 3>It's true.

0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, should we do final thoughts on rushing or Sam?

0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Do you want to final thoughts on rushing?

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:41.360
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Final thoughts on rushing to me?

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, another, I do agree that it's mostly straight. The

0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:51.840
<v Speaker 2>one other queer thing about it is I'm thinking about

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:57.040
<v Speaker 2>like like rushing through the rain, Like I'm thinking of

0:58:57.120 --> 0:59:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the poetry of rushing, and there is something where you're

0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 2>so down on your luck that it's like you because

0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:07.080
<v Speaker 2>you're in such a sort of melodramatic space. If you're

0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 2>like rushing and you step in a puddle and you

0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:12.200
<v Speaker 2>step in dog shit and a woman yells at you,

0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 2>like you're like there, you're you are you are in

0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:18.520
<v Speaker 2>a narrative and yeah, you're.

0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:21.880
<v Speaker 4>The main character, a char When that is queer to you,

0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 4>I think that part can.

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Be like it's just a self romanticize and it's like

0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:31.680
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, it's like I mean, it is the performance

0:59:31.720 --> 0:59:33.520
<v Speaker 1>of it. I mean, obviously I think there's a way

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 1>in which the performance of Russian can be straight because

0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you're being such a like business woman. But also performance

0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:41.440
<v Speaker 1>inherently is queer of course, Like it is much more

0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:45.000
<v Speaker 1>queer to be rushing than to be you know, like

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:46.760
<v Speaker 1>sitting in a church pew wearing a blazer.

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I think essentially we need to look at every

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 2>single person who's rushing and be like are you self

0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 2>aware about your rushing? Are you living in a movie

0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 2>or are you thinking I just have to be there

0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:57.080
<v Speaker 2>on time?

0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Are you living out loud?

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 4>Like we're talking about like different levels of rushing. I

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.360
<v Speaker 4>was thinking more like a businessman who's like shit people

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<v Speaker 4>totally totally so like important or whatever. But like what's

1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:11.000
<v Speaker 4>interesting about that also is like the camp of that

1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:15.120
<v Speaker 4>guy where he doesn't he doesn't realize category is segative

1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:18.640
<v Speaker 4>realness literally, and it's like, girl, we're imitating you, you know,

1:00:18.640 --> 1:00:21.080
<v Speaker 4>what I mean like that there's like there's a camp

1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:24.800
<v Speaker 4>to straightness that like it's really just about the awareness.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all kind of campy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. It is all about the awareness that is huge, enormous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the camunists of straightness is like doing

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<v Speaker 1>the most obvious thing. It's like someone doing the most

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<v Speaker 1>obvious thing and then you on the outside being like

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<v Speaker 1>can you believe they're doing that? This is literally a

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<v Speaker 1>bride wearing a white dress and a groom that is

1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:47.560
<v Speaker 1>giving a toast. It's like the movies, they're doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's camp about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, when a movie starts out with someone rushing,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this person is about to like have an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing level or.

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<v Speaker 1>His product opening montage literal.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, I'm having like a thought right now, Like the

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<v Speaker 4>thing about like what you're saying about like the bride

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<v Speaker 4>and that she's the ring of my dress and he's

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<v Speaker 4>like making a toast. Fuck I hope I remember. The

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<v Speaker 4>fucking thing is that it's like back to the la

1:01:11.080 --> 1:01:13.840
<v Speaker 4>thing is like oh my gosh, okay, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like there's this contrived discovery where like the camp

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<v Speaker 4>of straightness is like we're doing it, We're really giving

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<v Speaker 4>the toast, and it's like, you mean like the forty

1:01:23.080 --> 1:01:25.400
<v Speaker 4>million other toasts that we're in this year in the

1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:31.240
<v Speaker 4>same fashion, And it's like lack of capacity to self discover,

1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:34.800
<v Speaker 4>whereas like the queerness is almost like the genuine, true

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<v Speaker 4>new discovery, which is like also what you say about performance,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's not even like who are you fucking? It's

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<v Speaker 4>like how how brand new? How how vulnerable are you

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<v Speaker 4>able to be to be brand new in this moment?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the discovery is key. I think the instinct

1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to want something new is queer, and the instinct to

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<v Speaker 1>like basically like recreate what you've seen is straight.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Stunningly, I think I've really covered rushing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm never gonna like this is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Alana, I'm never gonna forget this day.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm changing conversation because I honestly like when I rush

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<v Speaker 4>and I think I'm my dumb shit is so important.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, it's like this is a I'm changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I think December sixth will go down

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<v Speaker 2>as as important, if not more important, than January sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>And say, January seventh, when this comes out, is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be even more important?

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<v Speaker 4>Right? That's right? Then both dates combined.

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<v Speaker 1>Whow amazing? Should we do our final segment?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's an amazing idea. A lot of our

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<v Speaker 2>final segments called shout outs, and in this segment, we

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<v Speaker 2>shout out in the Grand Street oral tradition anything that

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<v Speaker 2>we are enjoying. Imagine at CRL two thousand and one

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<v Speaker 2>and you are in Times Square shouting out to your

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<v Speaker 2>squad back home.

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<v Speaker 3>About anything that you like. We make them up on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Spot, come up on the spot. I just thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was mine.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have one? Do you want to go first? Story?

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<v Speaker 3>I go, yeah, we'll go first.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's up freaks?

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<v Speaker 3>Some losers?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give a shout out to novellas. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking novels that are like one hundred pages long.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna stand here and be insecure about Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I can't deal with four hundred pages. And if someone

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<v Speaker 1>else said that to me, I'd say, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you stupid anti intellectual, sit your ass down, put that

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<v Speaker 1>phone away, and read War and Peace. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to be honest with myself. Sometimes I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the patience for it. Not always, but sometimes. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you get a book that is ninety to one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty pages long, are you kidding me? You

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<v Speaker 1>can read that in one afternoon. It is edited down

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<v Speaker 1>to the bare bones. You're not reading fucking fifteen page

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<v Speaker 1>descriptions of rain. There's a time in a place for that.

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<v Speaker 1>There was not having a place for that, but guess

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<v Speaker 1>what it's not when I am in a rush, a

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<v Speaker 1>call back to the to the topic of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I want to especially shout out. I'm currently

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<v Speaker 1>reading a book called The Pilgrim Hawk by Glenway Westcott.

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<v Speaker 1>It is about it all takes place in one afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>in one house I in heaven. I don't have to memory.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to look at a map of Lord

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<v Speaker 1>of the Rings characters, I don't have to look at

1:04:21.960 --> 1:04:24.600
<v Speaker 1>a family tree. I just have to know four characters.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the hawk that a woman carries around

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<v Speaker 1>that is kind of an important of the story. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see what happens and shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Novella's.

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<v Speaker 2>Who, Well, that's groundbreaking, Okay, I think I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go I think I have one, well I have

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<v Speaker 2>I have one and a half. Okay, okay, wait, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta remember what the second thing is called. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a completely disparate two parter.

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<v Speaker 3>Ready, what is up? Freaks, losers and perverts are on

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<v Speaker 3>the globe.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give a huge shout out. That's right

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<v Speaker 2>to my dentist. I yesterday got dental procedure done, part

1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:04.200
<v Speaker 2>one of getting a crown. I have never had one before.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, I said to him, I'm scared, I'm nervous,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 3>I got you.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I tell you, this man had me, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt so taken care of.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's hacked for me to say, but there

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<v Speaker 2>was something sexual about just giving up control and letting

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<v Speaker 2>this man grind my tooth down to nothing. I felt trusted.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was looking into his eyes and.

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<v Speaker 3>He kept saying, are you okay? Thumbs up? Thumbs up?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget to free?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this doctor and this dentist, and the damn

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<v Speaker 2>office is so humble, and the you know where the

1:05:41.920 --> 1:05:44.640
<v Speaker 2>leather on the chair is cracking and you're like, ugh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a lived in office, not some of these

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<v Speaker 2>fancy ringl like camera offices. This is a real fucking

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<v Speaker 2>dentist and he is gonna inject me with whatever and

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<v Speaker 2>just grind my teeth to shit. I love this man

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<v Speaker 2>and he can hold me as tight as he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>And secondly, and of course, the most edgy shout out

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<v Speaker 2>yet is I have to shout out Cozy Little Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>by Katy Perry.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd of this.

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<v Speaker 2>It came on when I was in a CBS and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, this song is so good and I cannot

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<v Speaker 2>stop hearing it and loving it.

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<v Speaker 3>Cozy Little Christmas Katy Perry.

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<v Speaker 2>I know this is coming out after Christmas, but mark

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<v Speaker 2>my words, this is Christmas cannon from now on.

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<v Speaker 3>Cozy Little Christmas Katy Perry. WHOA wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally never heard of that song in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you haven't spent enough time in CBS, guys.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I had gone first because those were so strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>But in the spirit of queer self discovery, I'm gonna try,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm gonna go so okay. I do know that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm nervous. What's up? Creeks? And one perverse and shucking losers.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to give a shout out to hot water

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<v Speaker 4>first thing in the morning. A mug of hot water

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<v Speaker 4>first thing, Oh my gosh, gets those organs moving, loose

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<v Speaker 4>up everything that's going on inside. It doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 4>it's dry out or if it's moist in the air.

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<v Speaker 4>You are moist. You are moist everywhere, and you feel

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<v Speaker 4>that heat. And you don't need external validation because you're

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<v Speaker 4>taking care of your body and your organs by keeping

1:07:33.480 --> 1:07:36.120
<v Speaker 4>them pure first thing in the morning, before you dumb

1:07:36.400 --> 1:07:39.560
<v Speaker 4>pompsins into your body for the rest of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>This is your one moment of peace and quiet and

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<v Speaker 4>you have to take your time and you cannot rush

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<v Speaker 4>when you drink this mug of hot water first thing

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<v Speaker 4>in the morning, and you are using that space and

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<v Speaker 4>time wisely tea reflect on what it means to be

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<v Speaker 4>in a body so.

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<v Speaker 2>Buffy you Wow, great, that was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd never thought of having hot water in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you not do coffee?

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<v Speaker 4>I do. It's just like when I'm being really a

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<v Speaker 4>really good girl, I'm having a mug of hot water

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<v Speaker 4>first God.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm definitely chugging water when I wake up but

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<v Speaker 2>always ice cold.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that in my uh very gay guy, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna become one of those classic women who

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<v Speaker 1>get hot water with lemon after dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>I really see that for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you want to that dinner out?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and want to poop that

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<v Speaker 2>dinner out.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel like an elegant bitch. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been an absolute delight. Alna, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for doing the pod, and tell our listeners will

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<v Speaker 4>If this is coming out on January seventh, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah wow, Well, thank you so much for doing the pod.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm honored. What a pleasure.

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